Time Nick Message 03:23 Amit_Gupta hi all 05:33 * Oak waves 05:33 Oak magnuse 05:40 magnuse Oak 05:47 Oak \o/ 06:03 Francesca hello 06:03 wahanui what's up, Francesca 07:16 * magnuse waves 07:22 mveron Good morning /daytime #Koha 07:36 magnuse hiya mveron 07:36 magnuse @wunder boo 07:36 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (8:20 AM CET on November 05, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). 07:37 mveron hiya magnuse 07:37 mveron @wunder Allschwil 07:37 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 9.0°C (8:30 AM CET on November 05, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 07:39 mveron Nice weather for "Basler Herbstmesse" https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basler_Herbstmesse and for BuchBasel http://www.buchbasel.ch/ 07:58 reiveune hello 08:01 magnuse bonjour reiveune 08:02 reiveune salut magnuse rangi 08:25 magnuse Oak 08:30 gaetan_B hello 08:58 mveron Hmm, this warning seems to be new: Subroutine HasOerdues redefined at (...)Koha/Template/Plugin/Borrowers.pm line 52 08:59 mveron It appears when calling koha/members/moremember.pl?borrowernumber=61 08:59 mveron ...and hi again everybody 09:00 mveron Subroutine HasOverdues 09:07 Joubu hi #koha 09:14 Francesca @wunder wlg 09:14 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (10:00 PM NZDT on November 05, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 09:24 magnuse @wunder boo 09:24 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 7.0°C (10:00 AM CET on November 05, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising). 09:24 magnuse our winter, your summer ;-) 09:24 Francesca my spring actually 09:24 magnuse i know, i know, it will backfire... 09:25 Francesca not much difference in temps there though 09:26 Francesca @seem gmcharlt 09:26 huginn Francesca: downloading the Perl source 09:27 Francesca ugh wrong command 09:27 Francesca @seen gmcharlt 09:27 huginn Francesca: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 21 hours, 15 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> xarragon: yes - I'll be curious to see if that just ends up being a shot across the bow with the end result of ES providing the details on security patches that Debian-security wants 09:30 magnuse @seems_like gmcharlt 09:30 huginn magnuse: I've exhausted my database of quotes 09:30 magnuse uhhuh 09:30 magnuse @quote get 123 09:30 wahanui http://xkcd.com/1172/ 09:30 huginn magnuse: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 09:31 Francesca I love that 09:31 Francesca @quote random 09:31 huginn Francesca: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 09:41 magnuse that's not very random :-) 09:42 Francesca @quote random 09:42 huginn Francesca: Quote #264: "<druthb> Grokking someone else's code is still trying to reverse-engineer someone else's brain." (added by wizzyrea at 11:50 PM, June 26, 2013) 09:42 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 09:42 Francesca lol 09:48 * cait waves and dives back into support tickets 09:48 * Francesca waves back at cait 09:49 Francesca right I should be sleeping, night magnuse, cait, #koha 10:04 cait Joubu++! 10:04 June Hello 10:04 cait hi June 10:05 June Hi Cait 10:05 June I would like to ask something about KOHA 10:05 cait just ask away 10:05 cait people will anwer when they can 10:05 cait or if they know the answer that is 10:06 June I am newbie to KOHA and Linux 10:06 June I have successfully installed KOHA on debian. 10:07 June but, I am getting issues when I install Restful for webservices using this link https://github.com/biblibre/koha-restful 10:07 cait can I ask why you want to install it? 10:07 June do you mean webservices or KOHA? 10:08 cait the restul bit 10:08 cait it's an addition to Koha, so not really needed in most cases 10:08 cait it's also kind of separate to koha, so i can't really help installing it - yur best bet would be to ask someone from Biblibre 10:08 cait jajm: around? 10:08 June i would like to call it from mobile application 10:09 cait there are several built in api's that youcould use as well 10:09 jajm cait, yes 10:09 cait can you read back jajm? June has a question about koha restful 10:10 cait June: this is a list of other available APIs that might be useful: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/APIs_and_protocols_supported_by_Koha 10:10 jajm June, what issues do you have with koha-restful ? 10:10 xarragon Hi guys.. When using dbix/koha objs and I need to replace a value in a column with another one (like a foreign key), how do I do that? 10:10 xarragon Is it possible to modify dbix resultsets, changing the type etc? 10:11 xarragon Right now I just convert it to a regular hash manually and modifies as I go. 10:11 xarragon I used a foreign key before but the test framework did not seem to handle fk to the same table. 10:11 cait xarragon: sorry, no idea - maybe ask again a bit later, when some others are around 10:12 xarragon I guess I might just use a where clause or join to map the id to the title of that column instead 10:12 June jajm I don't know how to test koha-restful after installation 10:12 xarragon cait: Thanks, I don't assume that you will answer every single question i have though. :-) 10:12 cait :) 10:13 June cait, I found Koha /svc/ HTTP API support only a few funcationalites 10:14 cait June: true, the APIs lsited there don't cover all functionality 10:14 cait it depends on what you want to do a lot 10:14 jajm June, you could use a rest client like https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/restclient/ 10:14 June I don't know how to use others apart from web services 10:15 June jajm, I use chrome rest client. here is my testing link http://127.0.0.1:8081/rest/v1/borrower/userid:1 10:15 June I am getting 404 Not Found 10:16 June when I run prove t/rest in Linux terminal, it shows Cannot detect source of 't/rest'! at /usr/share/perl/5.14/TAP/Parser/IteratorFactory.pm line 263 10:16 June I don't know what's wrong with my installation 10:18 jajm June, where did you find that url ? I think you are mixing koha-restful and the official Koha rest api (http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13799) 10:18 huginn 04Bug 13799: new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Add base for building RESTful API 10:20 magnuse June: all test files should end in .t 10:21 June I follow steps by steps follow this link https://github.com/biblibre/koha-restful 10:22 jajm June, try something like this: GET http://127.0.0.1:8081/cgi-bin/koha/rest.pl/user/all 10:23 jajm http://127.0.0.1:8081 should be OPAC 10:24 June still getting 404 not found 10:24 jajm June, did you follow the README ? 10:24 June yes 10:25 June when I try http://127.0.0.1:8081/cgi-bin/koha/svc/authentication 10:25 June it returns status OK 10:26 jajm June, http://127.0.0.1:8081/ is OPAC or Staff interface ? 10:27 June OPAC 10:27 June 8080 is staff interface 10:29 jajm weird, there is no /svc/authentication at opac 10:30 jajm June, which version of Koha ? 10:30 June 3.20 10:33 June In Koha /svc/ HTTP API, it mentions to try with $ curl http://koha-dev:8080/cgi-bin/koha/svc/authentication . so , I try with this link http://127.0.0.1:8081/cgi-bin/koha/svc/authentication 10:33 June it's ok 10:34 jajm June, it seems there is something wrong in your http server configuration, but anyway, koha-restful doesn't work well with Koha >= 3.20 10:35 jajm June, if all you need is retrieving borrowers data, you could use ILS-DI webservice 10:36 xarragon Well a right join solved my problem, now I just ned to see if dbix supports it. 10:36 June I think I didn't install restful properly. 10:38 June all I want to access through webservice is to checkout, checin in and borrowers data 10:40 June jajm, is there any documentation how to use ILS-DI webservice? 10:40 jajm June, koha-restful doesn't handle checkins/checkouts 10:40 June sorry that I am totally new to KOHA, Linux and Perl. 10:41 June oh, really. 10:41 June what webservice can I use for checkin/checkout 10:42 jajm June, don't be sorry about that ;) 10:42 jajm June, try http://127.0.0.1:8081/cgi-bin/koha/ilsdi.pl for ILS-DI documentation 10:43 magnuse might have to activate a syspref first? 10:44 jajm yes, I forget it every time :) 10:46 jajm June, 2 system prefernces to check in staff interface: "ILS-DI" and "ILS-DI:AuthorizedIPs" 10:46 jajm preferences 10:46 wahanui preferences are all lines 10:48 June how to activate a syspref? 10:49 June I can access ILS-DI documentation only in staff interface 10:51 jajm June, then your staff interface is the OPAC... or there is really something wrong with your server configuration :) 10:52 jajm June, this is OPAC: http://translate.koha-community.org/manual/3.20/en/html-desktop/images/opac/totalresults-rss.png 10:52 June :D 10:52 June sorry 10:52 June then I can access ILS-DI from OPAC 10:54 jajm June, for sysprefs, go to staff interface and use the top menu "More > Administration", then there is a textbox to search sysprefs 10:56 June then go to web services tab? 10:56 jajm yes 10:57 June thanks jajm, already enabled and set the IP 10:58 June btw, ILS-DI doesn't support for checkin, checkout? 10:59 cait June: i think only SIP2 does that atm :( 11:00 magnuse and sip2 is... interesting... 11:01 jajm :) 11:02 June will it be too complicated to setup SIP server? 11:06 June Thank you all for your reply. 11:06 June it really helps me a lot. 11:06 June I gotta off now. 11:12 Joubu @later tell tcohen Barcodes.t passes here 11:12 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 11:13 cait hi Joubu 11:13 Joubu hi cait 11:13 cait wil you have time to take a look at the dates patches by chance? 11:15 Joubu I will try, yes 11:17 cait that would help a lot, thx! 11:36 * cait waves 12:09 cait @later tell tcohen ping :) 12:09 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 12:26 mveron ...back. Hi again everybody 12:27 drojf hi #koha 12:27 drojf hi mveron :) 12:27 mveron hi drojf :-) 12:32 tcohen morning 12:32 tcohen hi cait 12:32 cait morning :) 12:32 tcohen hi Joubu 12:32 cait i have a question - koha on jessie - any known problems? 12:32 tcohen nope 12:33 drojf you need 3.20 i think 12:33 Joubu tcohen: o/ 12:33 drojf maybe that is not true anymore, nor sure what was the reason 12:34 tcohen The grs-1 tests were failing on newer zebras 12:34 tcohen and 3.20 had grs-1 deprecated 12:34 tcohen that's a possible cause of that conclusion 12:34 tcohen truth is that no one took the time to check "why" 12:34 tcohen well, it is fixed now, so 12:35 drojf mveron: could you add me for testing bug 14969 on trello? don't want to get an account. also mtompsett used my initials already :D 12:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14969 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Remove C4::Dates from serials/*.pl files 12:35 tcohen grs-1 could work (on 3.18 in jessie) with a small tweak on the config files 12:35 cait we are only using dom 12:36 tcohen I work on jessie, and didn't notice any specific problem 12:36 cait but not running it in productin yet? 12:36 tcohen nope 12:37 drojf hm you probably cannot add me when i dont have an account. sorry, need more caffein 12:37 tcohen we use U14.04 12:37 drojf also for spelling. caffeine 12:37 tcohen drojf and mveron: don't you ever sleep? 12:38 drojf tcohen: unfortunately, no 12:38 * mveron ...sends a double espresso to drojf 12:38 drojf awesome! 12:38 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, drojf 12:39 cait tcohen: ah ok, we are using Debian, do you know if someone else might run Jessie already? 12:39 mveron tcohen: Sometimes... :-) 12:39 tcohen cait: maybe jajm knows? 12:39 drojf hm maybe i'll have to get an account for your bug managing facebook thing then :P 12:39 * mveron fetches a double espresso as well 12:42 jajm cait, i run koha on jessie too, as well as some of BibLibre customers 12:44 magnuse i run one customer on jessie + plack + gitified 12:44 magnuse cait ^ 12:44 drojf tcohen: do you have to add me to trello or can i do that on my own? i fail to see how 12:45 tcohen drojf: send me your trello email account on a pm 12:45 mveron drojf: I added a comment to 14969 12:45 tcohen to make it faster 12:49 drojf mveron: thanks. added myself now too 12:49 mveron Ok :-) - Let's play cards :-) 12:50 drojf does it have games? :D 12:51 drojf oh its organized in cards. sorry, have never used it before :) 12:59 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15098: Itemtype description missing from facets for itypes in a search group <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=55456b6e7ff0278f2821a71c38b9a5b67bfd4220> / Bug 15123: Acquisition: Better context for "Transferred from..." to avoid ambiguity... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=25bd92bc3e7271541817660963155468e12b4eda> / bug 15112: Make greybox consistent size a 13:02 druthb o/ 13:05 magnuse \o/ 13:05 cait :) 13:05 cait thx all for the answers 13:20 tcohen hi alex_a 13:20 alex_a hello tcohen 13:28 khall tcohen: found a fix for bug 14743! 13:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14743 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , addorder.pl redirect problems under plack behind apache 2.4.10 13:28 tcohen !!!! 13:29 khall the cause of the error was quite surprising, looks like under plack multiple instances of the same named form input are concated together 13:29 khall this is definitely something developers need to know about 13:31 tcohen khall: sounds scary :-D 13:32 khall yeah, it took me a while to realize the id was invalid. I was too focused on the redirect. 13:32 magnuse @later tell jcamins a norwegian maker of dehydrated sauces is withdrawing their Béarnaise sauce from the market because it might contain traces of eggs 13:32 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded. 13:33 khall under normal CGI you'd just get back the first instance of an input when using ->Vars but apparently that is not true of http://search.cpan.org/dist/CGI-Emulate-PSGI/lib/CGI/Emulate/PSGI.pm 13:33 drojf wow. nice catch khall 13:33 khall thanks! 13:34 magnuse khall++ 13:34 drojf khall++ 13:35 tcohen khall++ 13:39 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14781: Creation of barcode types 2of5 not functional <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2b88f0cb38d74da93a723fd1cf3cbcf68030649e> / Bug 15083: Remove acqui/currency.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2e92b90840ce5faeab587dd113dc4253b312d99> / Bug 14157: Notices tab in the patron record should not depend on EnhancedMessagingPre... <http://git.koha-community. 13:59 jcamins magnuse: have you been reading Løk? 13:59 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9468: DBRev 3.21.00.053 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=25a0b0f256c7c3af43891d0d110b47d805d6d4d5> / Bug 9468: (QA followup) Remove GetSupportList dependency from updatadatabase.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ed879880d89793509a68a932b7b245393b7f3e0d> / Bug 9468: followup insert ignore <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=01b 14:06 mveron Joubu: I fixed Bug 14956 - The birthday date in Opac 14:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14956 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Remove C4::Dates from files opac/*.pl 14:08 tcohen khall: did u ask someone to sign on 14743 ? 14:08 khall tcohen: no I have not 14:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14836: (QA followup) Add missing transaction <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8fcd788c6d52348bc05f15c67a86494053995087> / Bug 14836: (QA followup) Fix number of unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1a9059d32cdb44bc8c2eb76352a763f911103b54> / Bug 14836: Add tests for Koha::Patron::Categor[y|ies] <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=comm 14:10 tcohen :D 14:13 mveron tcohen ++ 14:15 magnuse jcamins: the onion? 14:16 jcamins Yes. 14:17 magnuse no 14:18 drojf mveron: i broke 14969 14:18 drojf sorry :) 14:19 magnuse jcamins: http://www.dagbladet.no/2015/11/02/tema/mat/matsiden/tilbakekaller/eggeallergi/41780445/ 14:35 mveron drojf ++ 14:35 mveron Break everything you can... :-) 15:02 cait mveron: hint - remove the space to make it count :) 15:02 cait drojf++ 15:02 cait @karma drojf 15:02 huginn cait: Karma for "drojf" has been increased 45 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 45. 15:02 cait drojf ++ 15:02 cait @karma drojf 15:02 huginn cait: Karma for "drojf" has been increased 45 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 45. 15:26 jcamins magnuse: one of us is confused, and I'm pretty sure it's the the company. 15:27 jcamins :) 15:28 drojf i went into Search.pm and all i got was this lousy headache 15:32 drojf we retrieve every search result one by one from zebra to build the html? 15:32 jcamins drojf: at least we're not still parsing the results 2-3 times to generate facets. 15:33 drojf are you sure? 15:33 jcamins No. 15:33 drojf because there was something in there that looked like it 15:33 jcamins But I thought tcohen sent me a screenshot when he merged a patch that fixed it. 15:34 drojf i have only scrolled over that and already forgotten, until you said it 15:38 drojf using an external zebra server must be pretty slow that way 15:39 jcamins Not really... our processing is so slow that the speed of communication with the Zebra server is basically irrelevant. 15:39 jcamins :D 15:39 drojf lol 15:39 drojf that's good news 15:40 cait jcamins: the zebra facets too slow problem sadly remains :( 15:51 jcamins cait: oh. 15:51 jcamins Well, tcohen's solution was really cool. 15:53 cait i am not sure if it was among the things lost with the old laptop, hope not 15:59 cait bye all 16:09 gaetan_B bye 16:51 mveron If anybody has a good idea to rescue Bug 14969 I would not oppose :-) 16:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14969 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Failed QA , Remove C4::Dates from serials/*.pl files 16:51 mveron Will be back in about 6 hours 18:27 pianohacker @marc 690 18:27 huginn pianohacker: unknown tag 690 19:24 drojf trello? 19:24 wahanui trello is frowned upon. 19:24 drojf that does not really help 19:24 rangi trello.com 19:25 drojf i know :) but the url to the koha project? 19:25 rangi dunno, dont use trello 19:25 drojf of course i forgot the password on the way from the office back home 19:26 rangi heh 19:26 drojf i thought i saw your account in there :P 19:26 rangi yeah i maed one once 19:26 drojf and forgot the password on the way home? :D 19:26 rangi yup 19:27 rangi i think wizzyrea has nearly got the community taiga up and working 19:27 drojf awesome! 19:27 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, drojf 19:28 rangi probably not in time to use for this release, but should be handy for going forward 19:28 rangi and because its FOSS, we should be able to hook it to bugzilla 19:28 rangi such that, we can make comments appear on the bug, if someone moves the status, or vice versa 19:29 drojf looking at trello, copy and pasting a bug number to open it in bz like i just did is also a great workflow 19:29 drojf found the link https://trello.com/b/U2qRMwJO/3-22-blockers 19:29 rangi cool 20:08 * andreashm waves 20:08 * cait waves 20:11 andreashm hi cait 20:11 cait hi andreashm :) 20:12 andreashm cait: still mad busy? 20:12 cait kind of, but done with the travelling 20:12 cait only 6 more work days... until vacation :) 20:12 andreashm how did the migration go? (there was one right? or did I dream of that) 20:12 andreashm vacation sounds wonderful. 20:13 cait went well (i think) 20:13 andreashm vacation sounds wonderful.1 20:13 andreashm bah 20:13 andreashm misstyped 20:14 andreashm was going to write "great!" but ended up with that instead. Impressive. 20:15 cait heh 20:15 cait 1 = great? 20:15 andreashm apparently 20:15 wahanui i think apparently is vitally important to librarians 20:15 wizzyrea yeah the taiga should be going 20:15 wizzyrea oh wait there was one thing I needed to fix 20:16 andreashm I was trying to type ! but slipped and pressed the up key and then enter. very skillful indeed 20:16 cait impressive ;) 20:17 rangi wizzyrea: just created a user, seemed to work fine :) 20:18 wizzyrea :) 20:18 wizzyrea \o/ 20:18 andreashm cait: I'm an impressive speller. yessir 20:18 andreashm taiga? 20:18 wahanui it has been said that taiga is easy 20:25 wizzyrea and that last little thing is fixed so have at it at http://taiga.koha-community.org 20:28 * andreashm created an account! looks nice, but now what? 20:28 wizzyrea I think whoever has the big board 20:28 cait i am in! 20:28 wizzyrea has to either make it public 20:29 wizzyrea or add you all as team members 20:29 cait big board? 20:29 wizzyrea the project, thingie 20:29 wizzyrea 1s, let me see what I can do here 20:29 cait hm i createda project 20:30 wizzyrea right, so we only, I think, want one project 20:30 wizzyrea well, there can be lots of projects 20:30 wizzyrea but we probably want a master project 20:30 cait hm can't find anyone:( 20:31 * andreashm neither 20:31 cait i better stop messing things up 20:31 wizzyrea lol 20:32 rangi probably want someone to set up a project first then invite others maybe 20:32 wizzyrea yeah I was doing something like that 20:33 wizzyrea ok, there's now a public project, can you see that? 20:33 cait nope 20:33 rangi sweet 20:34 rangi do you have a link to it? 20:34 wizzyrea 1s 20:34 wizzyrea http://taiga.koha-community.org/project/wizzyrea-koha-release-324/ 20:35 rangi yep that works 20:35 ibeardslee nice 20:35 wizzyrea PM me the emails you signed up with 20:35 wizzyrea please and thank you 20:36 wizzyrea that url tho. 20:36 wizzyrea sigh. 20:37 rangi if i was you 20:37 rangi id sign up as a user koha-project 20:37 rangi and make the projects under that 20:37 rangi then the url would look nicer hehe 20:37 wizzyrea hehe yeah 20:37 rangi or just as koha 20:37 rangi then call the project release-3.24 20:37 rangi something like that 20:38 wizzyrea today is the day, we all learn taiga! 20:38 wizzyrea ^.^ 20:38 wizzyrea wheeeee! 20:39 wizzyrea un mo, I'm rearranging things 20:40 wizzyrea http://taiga.koha-community.org/project/koha-release-324/ 20:40 wizzyrea now, mind you the roles are the default roles 20:40 wizzyrea so they are meaningless at the moment 20:40 rangi nice 20:40 rangi yeah 20:40 rangi but its a good start 20:41 wizzyrea thoughts on the roles? 20:42 wizzyrea i guess mirror the roles we've got in the release team 20:43 rangi makes sense to me 20:43 wizzyrea andreashm: if you pm me the email address you signed up with I can add you to the project 20:43 wizzyrea gr, it doesn't seem you can allow people to self add 20:44 rangi thats kinda good in a way 20:44 rangi one less spam angle to worry about 20:44 rangi but also annoying too 20:46 cait can we adapt the kanban board? to match bug status or soß 20:46 cait ? 20:46 andreashm there's still nothing if I look at http://taiga.koha-community.org/ 20:46 wizzyrea right you have to go to the project 20:46 andreashm but there's stuff at the 3.24 project 20:47 wizzyrea that's about right 20:47 andreashm ah, alright. 20:47 wizzyrea sure we can I think change it however 20:47 andreashm I would have expected a link to that project from the startpage 20:47 wizzyrea It's expecting that you'll be logged in because you want to do work :) 20:47 wizzyrea and manipulate things 20:48 andreashm * looking around the taiga project * 20:49 wizzyrea there isn't much in it atm 20:49 cait found it 20:49 cait i changed the kanban board a bit 20:50 andreashm I kind of like the look and feel of it 20:50 wizzyrea a+ 20:50 wizzyrea cait++ 20:50 andreashm but some parts, like "the team" seem built for other kinds of teams/projects. =) 20:51 andreashm I might see if it can be used for stuff here at work actually 20:51 andreashm noticed that UX is placed at the top of the team. =) 20:51 wizzyrea I don't think it would hurt us to think and act more like a team 20:51 wizzyrea :) 20:51 andreashm pretty sure you're right! 20:53 andreashm speaking of UX, do you know if anyone has actually done any UX/customizing work on the staff interface? I know there's lots for the OPAC, but for staff? 20:53 andreashm (you as in anyone here) 20:53 wizzyrea nope 20:54 pianohacker I like UI stuff and occasionally poke at things, but oleonard has done a lot more 20:56 andreashm one of our ux:ers had a look, but it seems it's more difficult to customize the staff interface with css, as opposed to the opac 20:56 wizzyrea nah 20:56 wizzyrea there's intranetusercss 20:57 wizzyrea there might be fewer id's and classes on things 20:57 wizzyrea most of the pages have a body ID though 20:57 andreashm yeah, but a lot of elements aren't tagged properly... 20:57 andreashm just that 20:57 wizzyrea that's probably the place to start 20:58 andreashm makes it more difficult 20:58 cait some pages are better than others 20:58 cait there is one in acq with lots of duplicated ids... 20:58 andreashm ouch 20:58 wizzyrea there have definitely been some "improvements" that have been UX nightmares. 20:58 cait i have a note somewhere about filing a bug for that 21:01 pianohacker wizzyrea: like? :) 21:01 wizzyrea are you really going to make me? 21:01 wizzyrea speaking of, I like the way taiga does permissions 21:01 wizzyrea it shows green/grey boxes for active/inactive permissions 21:01 wizzyrea you expand them to add/remove 21:02 pianohacker that's what pm and off are for, wizzyrea, so yes ;) 21:02 wizzyrea and the boxes update. You can always tell at a glance what this role has 21:02 wizzyrea is nice. 21:02 * andreashm_ was logged out for some reason 21:03 wizzyrea I ought to make a project "koha community taiga" so you can put bugs and stuff in it. :P 21:04 wizzyrea I'm not sure exactly how this is going to tie to bugzilla 21:04 wizzyrea how does it work with trello now? 21:04 cait we ar just putting the bug number / a link 21:04 cait no integration really 21:05 pianohacker oh, heh, wizzyrea, I can guess one of the things you were implyaing at above. Okay. 21:05 rangi wizzyrea: i figure we can work on integration with taiga, because we can at least touch the code for it and bugzilla 21:05 wizzyrea I whinge about it a lot :P 21:06 wizzyrea yeah, supposedly there's a tool for that coming? 21:06 wizzyrea bz/taiga integration 21:06 wizzyrea I feel like taiga is better for seeing things moving a long 21:06 wizzyrea along* 21:06 wizzyrea and we can possibly use sprints for things like plack integration 21:07 wizzyrea i.e. we are going to work on this 21:07 wizzyrea until it is done 21:07 wizzyrea and here are all of the things that need doing and they all need to be green 21:07 wizzyrea i mean, idk how you all want to use it 21:07 wizzyrea however we want, I guess :) 21:07 rangi yep 21:08 rangi for now, even if its just used the same way as trello is being used 21:08 cait wizzyrea: trying to set a custom field for the bugzilla bug number... bu tno idea where it's supposed to show up 21:08 rangi just a kanban for bugs 21:08 wizzyrea ya 21:08 wizzyrea k I'll have a nosey 21:08 rangi then at least we get rid of a piece of proprietary software out of the workflow 21:08 wizzyrea which is always a good thing :) 21:13 wizzyrea hrm 21:13 wizzyrea cait, it looks like it's turning up on the user story 21:14 wizzyrea http://taiga.koha-community.org/project/koha-release-324/us/1 example 21:14 Francesca good morning 21:14 wahanui well, it's morning somewhere, yes 21:14 wizzyrea oh that's annoying, to save anything you have to click the tiny invisible disk next to the field 21:15 wizzyrea well it's not invisible when you hover 21:15 wizzyrea but still. 21:16 cait ah 21:17 cait how do you get to the link you gave me? 21:17 cait when i click on the small edit from the kanban board, the field doesn't show 21:17 cait in the modal 21:17 wizzyrea yeah, I just noticed that 21:17 wizzyrea I was looking up how that works 21:18 wizzyrea Oh I see 21:18 wizzyrea so a story is a thing we want to do 21:18 wizzyrea and a task is more like an individual bug 21:19 wizzyrea so for example 21:19 wizzyrea a story is "improve searching by switching to elasticsearch" 21:20 wizzyrea and a task is "bug xxxxx - very discrete thing that needs to be done to accomplish the story" 21:20 wizzyrea so at the start of a release, a possible thing 21:20 wizzyrea would be to decide what major goals we have 21:20 wizzyrea and split out the discrete tasks we need to do to get there 21:20 cait ah 21:21 wizzyrea i mean, if we were using this in the way it's meant to be used 21:21 wizzyrea you can also just chuck bugs in there and move them along the pipe 21:21 wizzyrea like you do with trello 21:22 cait i still haven't found out how to get to the moredetailed view you showed me 21:22 cait h 21:22 cait m 21:22 wizzyrea you click the link 21:22 wizzyrea not the edit pencil 21:22 wizzyrea which is kind of silly. 21:22 cait ahh 21:23 cait lol ok 21:23 wizzyrea that's basically your detail view 21:23 wizzyrea and it's all editable from there if you have rights to do that 21:23 wizzyrea you click on things to edit them 21:23 wizzyrea basically, assume there's an input box. 21:24 wizzyrea then click the disk at the end of the line to save it 21:27 cait hm time runs 21:27 cait have to start packing 21:28 wizzyrea does anybody know anything about webhooks? 21:31 andreashm_ not really I'm afraid. 21:32 andreashm_ oh, Ruby is waking up. got to go. 21:32 andreashm_ bye all 21:41 tcohen1 hi 21:41 wahanui kia ora, tcohen1 21:42 wizzyrea hi tcohen1 21:43 rangi hi tcohen1 21:43 tcohen1 hm 21:48 cait hi tcohen 21:48 tcohen1 so lots of things pushed already 21:49 tcohen1 now it is time to fix the remaining issues 21:55 tcohen gotcha 21:57 mveron Hi again everybody... 22:01 wizzyrea hello! 22:02 tcohen hi rangi wizzyrea cait 22:04 tcohen jenkins_koha: status? 22:04 jenkins_koha tcohen did you mean me? Unknown command 'status?' 22:04 wahanui status is not set, I tried receive and an additional check in 22:04 jenkins_koha Use '!jenkins help' to get help! 22:05 tcohen jenkins_koha: health 22:05 jenkins_koha health of all projects: 22:05 jenkins_koha Koha_3.14.x_D6(disabled): Health [Clover Coverage: Conditionals 28% (4287/15472)(40%), Test Result: 7 tests failing out of a total of 15,337 tests.(99%), Build stability: No recent builds failed.(100%): http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.14.x_D6/76/ 22:05 jenkins_koha Koha_3.14.x_D7(disabled): Health [Clover Coverage: Conditionals 28% (4290/15329)(40%), Test Result: 0 tests failing out of a total of 15,515 tests.(100%), Build stability: No recent builds failed.(100%): http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.14.x_D7/78/ 22:05 jenkins_koha Koha_3.14.x_U12(disabled): Health [Clover Coverage: Conditionals 28% (4290/15329)(40%), Test Result: 0 tests failing out of a total of 15,430 tests.(100%), Build stability: No recent builds 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failed.(0%), Clover Coverage: Conditionals 29% (5114/17483)(41%), Test Result: 14 tests failing out of a total of 16,320 tests.(99%): http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D6/303/ 22:05 jenkins_koha Koha_Master_D7: Health [Clover Coverage: Conditionals 38% (6957/18421)(54%), Build stability: 2 out of the last 5 builds failed.(60%), Test Result: 3 tests failing out of a total of 16,988 tests.(99%): http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/570/ 22:05 jenkins_koha Koha_Master_D8: Health [Clover Coverage: Conditionals 38% (7084/18423)(54%), Build stability: 1 out of the last 5 builds failed.(80%), Test Result: 2 tests failing out of a total of 17,741 tests.(99%): http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/190/ 22:05 jenkins_koha Koha_Master_D8_MariaDB10.0: Health [Clover Coverage: Conditionals 39% (7094/18423)(55%), Test Result: 0 tests failing out of a total of 18,302 tests.(100%), Build stability: No recent builds failed.(100%): 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lol! 22:11 tcohen heh 22:11 tcohen never more 22:12 tcohen jenkins_koha: health Koha_Master_D7 22:12 jenkins_koha Koha_Master_D7: Health [Clover Coverage: Conditionals 38% (6957/18421)(54%), Build stability: 2 out of the last 5 builds failed.(60%), Test Result: 3 tests failing out of a total of 16,988 tests.(99%): http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/570/ 22:12 tcohen better? 22:12 wahanui better is "take cover." :) 22:13 eythian hi 22:15 tcohen hi eythian 22:15 tcohen so should I push the paypal patches or just delay them until URL::Encode is available or they find another way? 22:16 tcohen @later tell fridolin ping me tomorrow, about bug 15142 22:16 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 22:17 cait tcohen++ 22:18 eythian tcohen: I think that they need to check if URI::Escape will do the job. 22:18 eythian Adding a useless dependency is worse than adding a complicated one. 22:18 tcohen thanks eythian 22:19 eythian Also, they had fair warning that it'd be delayed if they didn't work that out early. 22:20 tcohen eythian: true, don't worry about it anymore 23:28 * mveron fixed date input validation in Bug 14969 23:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14969 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Remove C4::Dates from serials/*.pl files 23:29 mveron 4 C4::Dates sign-offs left, 3 to QA 23:34 mveron @later tell nengard Can you please comment and/or so Bug 15091 (Batch Checkout)? 23:34 huginn mveron: The operation succeeded.