IRC log for #koha, 2015-05-07

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00:02 * dcook waves
00:03 eythian hi dcook
00:05 dcook heya eythian
00:05 dcook I haven't been able to get Anathema out of my head since the other day :p
00:05 dcook Not that I'm complaining. I think you're a positive influence :D
00:06 eythian haha
00:06 eythian dcook: you know that they're playing in Sydney on the 30th of October, right?
00:07 dcook Yep. Wasn't I the one that told you that? :p
00:08 dcook I admit that I had forgotten about that until now though...
00:09 dcook Hmm... $68... that could be doable
00:09 eythian yes, it was you
00:09 eythian oh, that's not a bad price
00:09 dcook That's probably one of the best prices I've actually seen for an overseas artist
00:10 eythian they're probably not well known enough to command high prices
00:10 dcook Well, Amon Amarth was 70-something in 2012
00:10 dcook I didn't go as I had just moved to Oz and felt outraged by the price
00:10 dcook Seeing as I'd paid about... $20-25 to see them in Canada
00:11 dcook Of course, as time goes on, I realize that doing a tour of Australia/New Zealand would be a lot more expensive than Canada/US...
00:12 eythian yeah
00:13 dcook Still, my sister and her husband went to a concert the other day in the US...
00:13 dcook They had to leave after about 3 songs as the show was over an hour late starting and they had to get back home as they had a babysitter...
00:14 dcook But for $20 each... that's not horrible
00:14 dcook I think Mogwai was something like $80-90... I would've been pretty crushed if I had to leave after the first 3 songs of that show...
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00:37 dcook Interesting... in 3.14.5, the borrower data isn't provided the same on every tab of the patron record...
00:45 BobB_ hi guys and gals
00:46 BobB_ I've been asked if Koha has LTI support?
00:46 BobB_ Learning Tools Interoperability (LTI) is a standard created by the IMS Global Learning Consortium.[1]
00:46 BobB_ anyone know?
00:47 dcook I think irma was asking about it as well, but I've never heard about it, so I'm guessing no?
00:47 BobB_ oh I should walk to the other side of the office and ask my colleague  :)
00:48 BobB_ I might ask on devel list, eh
00:50 dcook Probably a good idea :)
00:50 BobB_ thx dcook
00:56 dcook eythian: Wish I had cause to learn more about the Debian packaging. Seems unfair that it always falls on you :(
01:30 eythian dcook: it's OK, it's just when people go ahead and do things in a way that doesn't include consideration of it that it becomes a problem.
01:31 eythian though I do need to spend some time and get some proper automation going on in it.
01:42 eythian
01:43 wizzyrea foxes <3
01:46 dcook Automation <3
01:47 dcook Sweet. Getting an industrial dehumidifier to get rid of the dampness in the apartment...
01:54 eythian
01:54 dcook hehe
01:54 dcook All right. Be back in a bit Koha folk.
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02:16 mtompset Greetings, geek_cl
02:26 mtompset wizzyrea: I think Galen should re-use someone else's ISBN like 0123456789 or 123456789X ;)
02:26 mtompset wizzyrea: I think gmcharlt should re-use someone else's ISBN like 0123456789 or 123456789X ;)
02:26 wizzyrea yeah probably one of the ones that already has like 3x different titles :)
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02:58 geek_cl hi mtompset !
02:58 geek_cl thanks
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03:23 * Francesca waves
03:23 eythian hi Francesca
03:23 Francesca afternoon
03:28 mtompset Evening. :P
03:28 mtompset That's why I prefer to stick with good day... because its always within the 24 hour period. :)
03:32 eythian Francesca is in my timezone, so she knows that it's really afternoon.
03:32 Francesca lol
03:32 Francesca mtompset where are you?
03:33 mtompset Ontario, Canada. :)
03:33 Francesca ah
03:33 Francesca cool
03:33 Francesca tell me is it warm there?
03:33 mtompset @wunder l7e5y5
03:33 huginn` mtompset: The current temperature in Toronto Pearson, Ontario is 14.0°C (11:00 PM EDT on May 06, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising).
03:33 Francesca not too warm then
03:34 mtompset Cool evenings/mornings, nice afternoons.
03:34 Francesca bit like here acutally
03:34 Francesca accept we have wind
03:34 Francesca and rain as well
03:36 mtompset eythian: I vaguely recall someone saying it was always beer o'clock.
03:37 eythian which typically happens in the afternoon, mtompset
03:38 Francesca doesn't that usually happen on a friday?
03:38 mtompset Well, if I don't go to sleep until 4am, then I suppose I could call this afternoon. ;)
03:38 eythian Francesca: depends how dedicated you want to be, I guess
03:39 Francesca lol
03:43 * dcook perks up at the mention of beer
03:43 dcook I'm kidding. I just got back to the office.
03:43 dcook But still... beer.
03:47 Francesca lol
03:51 dcook It's so painful reading marketing copy for technology...
03:52 cdickinson @wunder nzwn
03:52 dcook I love how someone can be sued for making incorrect remarks about a person
03:52 huginn` cdickinson: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (3:30 PM NZST on May 07, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
03:52 dcook But when it's about technology, somehow it's ok just to tell lies and falsehoods
03:52 dcook Well, that is until the robot uprising
03:52 dcook Then they'll have rights too, I guess
03:53 Francesca Hey cdickinson
03:54 cdickinson Oh, hiya Francesca
03:54 Francesca how goes it
03:55 cdickinson Okay, this script I'm working on is so close to working I can almost taste the success, but it's just not :P
03:55 cdickinson how about you?
03:56 cdickinson <mtompset> eythian: I vaguely recall someone saying it was always beer o'clock. <--- I feel like beer o'clock...
03:57 mtompset dcook: Yes, all hail our robot overlords. ;)
03:58 bag it’s always beer o’clock
03:59 dcook Hehe. I was given a free beer at lunch yesterday with my meal, but wasn't sure about the protocol in regards to drinking during the day
03:59 dcook When I first moved to Australia, it seemed like everyone had beer at lunch. I guess I just don't get out enough now :p
03:59 dcook I didn't drink the beer in the end, but - in my defense - it was a bad brand of beer anyway
03:59 dcook Free for a reason...
04:00 bag ha
04:01 wizzyrea cdickinson: I suspect the koha team may be keen for beers generally
04:06 cdickinson dcook: only have it if you enjoy it is my motto as well
04:07 cdickinson there isn't a lot of beer that I hate enough to not drink
04:07 cdickinson wizzyrea: I have stock at home, and it's almost time... it should be good
04:07 wizzyrea :)
04:07 wizzyrea I don't. I should sort that.
04:11 mtompset Okay, one less thing on the Patch does not apply queue. Of course, perhaps Martin will dislike it. :)
04:13 wizzyrea I'm looking at 8753, it's kind of a hot mess :(
04:15 cdickinson Francesca: never mind, got it working
04:16 * Francesca keeps forgetting to look at her IRC window
04:16 Francesca hi wizzyrea!
04:16 wizzyrea heya
04:18 Francesca hows it going
04:19 eythian bug 8753
04:19 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8753 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Failed QA , Add forgot password link to OPAC
04:19 dcook cdickinson: Went to a show at the Opera House the other day and had a beer so bad... I actually couldn't finish it
04:19 dcook Fortunately, my wife is a better beer drinker than I am, so she polished it off :p
04:21 Francesca lol
04:24 mtompset wizzyrea: That's one of the reasons I stopped looking at it. :)
04:26 cdickinson dcook: I want to say that's unthinkable but I totally get it haha
04:26 cdickinson I'm usually more a sweet drink man myself, most of the time
04:26 wizzyrea I'm hoping that saying "hi, yeah this is something we really need but if you're abandoning it please let us know so we can feel ok fixing it"
04:26 wizzyrea will either get them to fix it or abandon it
04:26 cdickinson a good beer is a good beer anyhow
04:27 dcook True that
04:27 dcook Mmm good beer
04:27 * dcook is still waiting on some Wellington recommendations from eythian :p
04:27 dcook Maybe he's waiting for me to visit to show me around himself :p
04:28 eythian <-- dcook
04:28 * wizzyrea completely defers to eythian on matters beer.
04:32 dcook :D
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04:42 mtompset Greetings, indradg.
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04:57 Francesca I have returned
04:57 Francesca anyone still around?
04:59 indradg hi mtompset
05:00 mtompset No, no one is around, Francesca. ;)
05:00 cdickinson Don't be silly
05:00 Francesca well since u have all vanished I shall vanish as well
05:00 Francesca My kitty is sitting at the door waiting to be let in
05:01 cdickinson considering the weather today, I don't blame it :P
05:03 dcook The weather was all right today
05:03 dcook Well, cold in the shade and hot in the sun
05:04 eythian we had a stormy night, and it usually takes a day to recover from that
05:04 eythian or two
05:08 dcook Hope it doesn't come our way
05:08 dcook I'm over storms
05:08 dcook Well, storms in my house at least
05:08 dcook So are you going to come to Sydney on Oct 30th, eythian?
05:08 indradg i *hate* stormy nights.... esp ones with thunderstorms.... makes the internet go off for about 12+ hours
05:09 dcook :(
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05:09 Francesca the weather has been awful today
05:09 eythian nah, it was just a fairly strong (140kph) NW containing a fair bit of rain, it wasn't a particularly exciting storm
05:09 Francesca Its meant to be like 18 degrees
05:09 eythian dcook: I probably will
05:09 Francesca but it doesn't feel like that
05:10 eythian Francesca: it was late last night, too
05:10 cdickinson huginn reports 18 degrees, but there is no way it's anthing like that
05:10 cdickinson anything*
05:10 Francesca Its colder than that
05:10 eythian metservice says 16
05:10 Francesca for sure
05:10 Francesca that makes more sense
05:11 Francesca my phone says its 18 but that it feels like 15
05:15 dcook eythian: Cool. I'm going to see if buying tickets in person is cheaper than getting them online...
05:15 * dcook isn't a fan of weird arbitrary fees
05:15 dcook @wunder syd
05:15 huginn` dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 19.0°C (3:00 PM AEST on May 07, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
05:15 dcook Hmm, probably about 19 here..
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05:31 mtompset All is well now, indradg?
05:33 mtompset I better sleep. I have a weigh-in tomorrow.
05:34 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha dcook indradg eythian wizzyrea cdickinson
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06:03 dcook Interesting...
06:03 wahanui i guess interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
06:03 dcook Apparently we're a partner with EBSCO
06:03 dcook[…]ditional-partners
06:03 dcook I don't know if I remember that...
06:04 dcook Looks like Catalyst's entry has a bit of bad HTML in it..
06:04 cdickinson lol
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06:30 dcook Ugh, list permissions...
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06:33 cait wizzyrea++ :)
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06:33 * magnuse waves
06:33 dcook yo, cait && magnuse
06:34 dcook Almost time for lunch I guesss.
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06:34 magnuse yo yo yo dcook
06:35 magnuse lunch?
06:35 wahanui well, lunch is a good idea :)
06:36 dcook Well, I had some potato wedges at lunch time, but now I want sandwiches which was going to be my real lunch...
06:36 dcook Nevermind that it's 4:36pm :p
06:36 reiveune hello
06:37 eythian whew, server updates almost done, and this time set up so that I won't have to do them manually nearly so often.
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06:45 fridolin hie
06:56 magnuse bonjour fridolin
06:56 magnuse @wunder boo
06:56 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on May 07, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady).
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06:58 alex_a bonjour
07:01 fridolin bonjour magnuse , ouuuu chilly
07:01 fridolin @wunder Montpellier
07:01 huginn` fridolin: The current temperature in Montpellier, France is 15.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on May 07, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
07:01 fridolin here at the beach its more 20°C
07:02 dcook @wunder syd
07:02 huginn` dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 17.0°C (4:30 PM AEST on May 07, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
07:02 dcook Hmm, time for a jumper
07:02 dcook night all :)
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07:10 magnuse fridolin: yeah, not quite summer yet...
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07:11 gaetan_B hello
07:13 fridolin magnuse: you should come on vacation here ;)
07:17 magnuse i should :-)
07:17 magnuse but it is really lovely here now - everything is turning green and flowers are starting to um flower
07:22 kivilahtio nice
07:22 kivilahtio I am starting to deflower
07:25 magnuse ouch?
07:25 wahanui
07:29 magnuse wizzyrea++ for thorough testing
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08:17 cait hi #koha
08:21 magnuse kia ora cait
08:21 magnuse wassup!?!
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08:31 Viktor Hi all of #koha
08:32 Viktor When is string freeze for 3.20?
08:37 Viktor I often have a hard time tracking down all the dates for a release. I tend to think it might live under "release schedule" on the Koha website, but it never does :)
08:38 magnuse i can't remember seeing an actual date. maybe cait does?
08:40 Viktor magnuse: That's good. Then it's probably not that I suck at information retrieval at least :)
08:41 Viktor The translator can do a two person team for sv-se to do the job between string freeze and release, but I need to plan the dates.
08:41 cait Viktor: I think string freeze hasn't been announced so far
08:41 cait release will be 22nd i thnk
08:42 cait and in the email tcohen yesterda asked if a week was enough for translators - so i think maybe he thnks about 22nd -7?
08:42 cait just guessing
08:45 Viktor Thanks cait magnuse
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11:38 cait quiet today
11:46 magnuse ssshhh...
11:50 liw the peaceful, meditative silence on some IRC channels, like a rain of petals from a blossoming rose; a Nirvana in the middle of an information overflow, we could watch such quiet forever
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11:56 magnuse awww...
11:58 magnuse talking of which: here is a humourous look at the last professional susher in norway:
11:59 magnuse shusher
12:06 * chris_n lobbies for qa on bug 14103
12:06 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14103 critical, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Signed Off , PDF::FromHTML headaches related to optional discharging.
12:06 chris_n :-)
12:06 xarragon I am trying to test the patchset for bug 13853 using git-bz (manually doing it was a PITA). The patch set does not seem to apply cleanly to origin/master; bz "version" field says either "unspecified" or "master". Is the appropiate action to patch/rebase/fix it or mark as "Patch doesn't apply"?
12:06 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13853 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Show waiting hold expiration date for waiting holds in holds ajax datatable
12:07 xarragon Oh, and I checked all the patches/bugs in the "dependency" tree for info on where it is supposed to apply.
12:08 chris_n xarragon: either rebase or mark as not applying
12:08 chris_n sometimes rebase is not so easy, though
12:09 xarragon One of the patches was an obvious fix; another added line from master ruined the patch "anchoring". I'll try to figure out the other one, which seems to be more of an underlying functional change.
12:13 cait xarragon: you applied the other patches first?
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12:13 drojf hi #koha
12:13 cait i think you first need 13851 - then 13030 - then 13851
12:13 cait all applied to the same branch in that sequence
12:14 cait if you did and it doesn't apply, worth noting (so you don't get asked if you saw the dependencies :) )
12:14 cait h idro
12:14 cait hi drojf
12:14 xarragon cait: Ah, ok.. I thought that was the part that bz automated; the patch chain.
12:14 drojf hi cait :)
12:15 xarragon cait: When I tried it manually with wget and patch I traced back up the hierarchy until I saw a patch who's status was 'merged to master'.
12:15 cait git bz is great - but you need to do the dependencies manually
12:15 cait but it wil get you all the patches... which is great
12:16 cait i remember times when we didn't have git bz :)
12:16 cait lots of time lost wgetting and uploading and sorting
12:17 xarragon Yeah, I am used to just having patches pushed to a private branch for review, which makes it retain all the history automagically.
12:17 xarragon But that was just internally at a company.
12:18 chris_n git bz++
12:20 xarragon Yeah it is a great tool, I was just unused to it. I am not bashing it! :-)
12:21 cait I think we understand :)
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12:30 tcohen morning
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12:34 cait morning tcohen
12:34 tcohen @seen nengard
12:34 huginn` tcohen: nengard was last seen in #koha 18 hours, 51 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <nengard> hehe
12:36 magnuse hiya tcohen
12:36 * tcohen wants to release the beta
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12:44 magnuse tcohen: just do it :-)
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12:51 tcohen hi nengard
12:51 nengard morning!!
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13:01 tcohen nengard: how do u see the current state of the documentation fr 3.20?
13:01 tcohen is it too far?
13:01 nengard master = 3.20 just like in Koha
13:01 nengard so yes the current state is the 3.20 manual
13:02 tcohen @later tell gmcharlt we need some action on your node so building the docs don't fail. Or you can give me access and I can fix it
13:02 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded.
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13:10 nengard tcohen++
13:10 nengard :)
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13:15 tcohen
13:15 tcohen :/
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14:27 barton set -o vi
14:27 barton heh.
14:27 tcohen heh
14:30 reiveune bye
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15:06 nengard anyone know if it would be possible to use the HTML5MediaEnabled preference to embed youtube videos?
15:06 nengard if so any tips on how to catalog it?
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15:06 Joubu nengard: I think so, yes
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15:10 cait nengard: maybe ask drojf - i think he played with embedding videos
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15:21 fridolin see u
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15:22 nengard @later tell drojf do you have any tips for cataloging a youtube video so that it streams using the HTML5MediaEnabled preference?
15:22 huginn` nengard: The operation succeeded.
15:25 talljoy is jajm in?
15:28 talljoy @later tell jajm i am looking for information on the csv export in the new item search feature (bz 11425).  Does it use a different csv export tool/code than what is used in the reports module?
15:28 huginn` talljoy: The operation succeeded.
15:34 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13758: (QA followup) Make Makefile.PL aware of <[…]4b0e1c1ab95896acc> / Bug 13758: Add POD <[…]b13eccad5f17acb2f> / Bug 13758: Move the Koha version from <[…]ff;h=11049f9d0267
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15:38 drojf nengard: youtube has html5 video these days, but to use it within koha you would need the direct url of a .webm video file. i think they are not permanent but expire and you cannot guess them from the youtube url. i don't think there is a way to do it with the feature as it is now, but it might be possible to enhance the feature a little and use something like this to generate an url from the regular youtu
15:42 drojf i hope that makes sense
15:48 nengard drojf makes sense and is disappointing :( since the urls expire
15:48 nengard so basically we want a new dev :) hehe
15:48 nengard off to enter an enhancement request
15:49 nengard bug 14168 submitted
15:49 drojf nengard: the other option would be to use the regular youtube embedded video function and mimic the code they generate
15:49 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14168 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , enhance streaming cataloging to include youtube
15:50 gaetan_B bye
15:51 drojf nengard: that looks soething like this[…]9722/youtube3.jpg and if you catalogue the url part, the rest around it could be generated. still a new feature though
15:52 nengard yeah that's an option - i'll add it to the bug rpeort
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15:53 nengard drojf the thing with that is that you'd need a way to note that it's youtubr
15:53 nengard youtube versus another video
15:58 drojf nengard: i think parsing the 856$u for before doing the html5video-stuff (if enabled) would work. but the first option would be nicer in my opinion as it would definitely not involve any flash. the second option would probably let the browser decide and weird/broken flash plugins could lead to users coplaining and blaming koha
15:59 drojf *complaining
15:59 tcohen for commit in $(git rev-list v3.18.00..HEAD) ; do git show --pretty=format:"%aN" $commit | head -n 1 ; done | sort | uniq
16:00 nengard yeah - flash not good :) hehe html5 good
16:01 drojf :D
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16:25 khall hey #koha! looking for feedback on bug 14167 especially from Joubu rangi and anyone who's had a hand in previous attempts to add a logger to Koha
16:25 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14167 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add Koha::Logger based on Log4perl
16:27 * chris_n wonders why mozilla does not fix FF memory leaks
16:27 chris_n its a real pain to have to close FF every few days when one uses a zillion tabs
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16:41 chris_n can someone verify that attempting to create a new list from borks? (running the current master)
16:56 tcohen chris_n: how do u create a new list there?
16:59 chris_n browse by last name; click "select all" in the list tool bar; name the list; click save
16:59 * chris_n is testing khall's cool log patch
16:59 khall thanks!
17:00 tcohen
17:00 tcohen ah, I did a plain search
17:00 tcohen chris_n: WORKSFORME
17:01 pianohacker khall: *blink* that's right, you exist
17:01 khall lol, I could say the same pianohacker!
17:01 pianohacker what is this cool log patch?
17:01 khall[…]_bug.cgi?id=14167
17:01 pianohacker khall: you having a bit more of an excuse :)
17:01 huginn` Bug 14167: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add Koha::Logger based on Log4perl
17:01 chris_n tcohen: tnx
17:02 * chris_n remembers us discussing Log4perl many moons ago
17:03 chris_n khall: getting "Configuration not defined at /usr/share/perl5/Log/Log4perl/ line 571." after following the test plan
17:04 khall chris_n: dang, that's not right! Are you sure the configuration file is being passed in to Log4perl?
17:04 khall it sounds like maybe it's not
17:04 khall chris_n: did you restart apache?
17:04 chris_n no; that may be it
17:05 khall rangi first brought up the idea of using log4perl, and it's been on my todo list ever since
17:05 chris_n no joy
17:05 chris_n khall: I've got to run for an hour or so; but I'll look at it more when I get back this afternoon
17:06 khall k, chris_n try dumping the $conf var in Koha::Logger to see what's in it
17:07 * magnuse waves to pianohacker
17:07 pianohacker hi magnuse
17:08 magnuse exams done yet?
17:09 pianohacker magnuse: yup! passed thesis defense and took my last final yesterday. Aside from final thesis editing and paperwork, I'm finally done with school
17:10 talljoy be sure to send us copy of your thesis, leather bound, so we can catalog it for you in our model database!  ;-)
17:11 magnuse pianohacker++
17:11 magnuse @confetti
17:11 huginn` magnuse: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
17:11 magnuse confetti
17:11 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
17:11 magnuse pianohacker: congrats!
17:12 pianohacker thanks magnuse :)
17:13 tcohen confetti
17:13 wahanui i think confetti is[…]1qh8hleo1_400.gif
17:13 talljoy nice
17:14 tcohen chris_n: it seems i cannot add new patrons to the already created list!
17:14 * magnuse wonders how to translate "discharge"
17:15 tcohen we use something that also translates to "Free of debt"
17:16 magnuse tcohen: hm, yeah, that might make sense
17:16 magnuse what is the word(s) you use?
17:17 tcohen Libre de deuda
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17:18 magnuse thanks
17:18 magnuse IdRef and Sudoc, that's unimarc only, right?
17:18 tcohen right
17:19 magnuse thanks again :-)
17:19 magnuse ooh, translating is almost fun now that there are several files i do not have to worry about :-)
17:20 magnuse still annoying that there are a gazillion strings that include "Koha online%s catalog", though
17:22 tcohen hmpf
17:22 tcohen there are like 160 less lines thanks to bernardo's patch
17:22 magnuse yeah, looks like there were only two that needed attention
17:23 magnuse when i get a year of spare time i will make the templates use [% l('text') %] for strings that need trnslating ;-)
17:24 magnuse bgkriegel++
17:24 tcohen bgkriegel++
17:25 tcohen magnuse: in that case, it might be worth just changing how we deal with strings all together
17:26 tcohen a_year_of_spare_time++
17:26 tcohen @query patron lists
17:26 huginn` tcohen: Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13797 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Applet / Script for combination silent printing/ till drawer kick out from Citizen CBM 1000 slip printer
17:26 huginn` tcohen: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1088 enhancement, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , expand independant branches functionallity
17:26 huginn` tcohen: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3514 new feature, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Returning items through patron Details tab doesn't activate all circulation functions
17:26 huginn` tcohen: Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10909 normal, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , You can delete a patron who has created virtualsheves without any warn
17:26 huginn` tcohen: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2894 major, P3, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Routing list holds are broken
17:27 magnuse ooh, we have IdRef, idref and IDREF
17:27 tcohen LOL
17:27 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13758: (QA followup) revert case change that broke the tests <[…]854532cd1294c574f> / Bug 14103: Improved testing coverage <[…]ca43c1cb6ff9dc176> / Bug 14103: PDF::FromHTML is conditionally required on UseDischarge systempreference <http://git.koha-commu
17:28 talljoy question: if csv export doesn't import nicely into Excel, but does import into LibreOffice nicely, what are the odds people will want to fix this if i open a bug report?
17:28 talljoy item search csv and excel doesn't play nice together
17:29 magnuse talljoy: that makes me think of bug 10117
17:29 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10117 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Byte Order Mark breaks Patron Import
17:30 magnuse ...which was reported ~2 years ago
17:30 magnuse but... ¡report all the bugs!, i say :-)
17:31 talljoy i'll open this bug then.  but i have mixed feelings.  it works on libreoffice so use libre office.  excel.  bah.
17:34 magnuse yeah, but some poor sod will have their pc locked down and unable to install anything non-microsoft
17:39 talljoy very true.  bug filed.
17:39 talljoy bug 14169
17:40 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14169 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Item Search csv export
17:48 magnuse talljoy++
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18:22 nengard hello all welcome to the koha channel
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18:52 * chris_n wondered what discharge meant in that context
18:58 chris_n khall: line 51 of was looking for 'log4perl_conf rather than 'log4perl'; I'll fix it
18:59 chris_n also, the test plan should mention fixing up the __FOO__ vars in log4perl.conf with appropriate BAR for one's system when testing
18:59 chris_n working on the rest of the test plan now
19:06 chris_n khall: what owner/perms should the logs have for log4perl?
19:10 Viktor Would SIP2 work to handle payments of overdue fees (and other debts) from the Opac?
19:10 Viktor (Using an external service to handle the actual payment security stuff that is...)
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19:12 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
19:15 * chris_n greets mtompset
19:15 mtompset Greetings, chris_n.
19:17 * mtompset cheers that bug 14103 made it through. Now only some GRS testing issues to fix on Jenkins. And that's not my problem. :)
19:17 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14103 critical, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Pushed to Master , PDF::FromHTML headaches related to optional discharging.
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19:59 chris_n khall: I'll work on this some more tomorrow
19:59 * chris_n heads out
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20:28 andreashm hey all
20:29 * cait waves
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20:34 andreashm quit day today?
20:34 andreashm quite
20:34 andreashm quiet
20:34 andreashm gah. =)
20:35 ibeardslee heh .. time for another coffee?
20:35 * wnickc bangs pots and pans together
20:40 andreashm ibeardslee: it's 22:40 here in Stockholm. Rather not have more coffee. =)
20:40 * andreashm is reading Swedish national guidelines for OA
20:42 ibeardslee andreashm: sounds like wine time then
20:43 andreashm ibeardslee: if only it were friday!
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20:51 wnickc hi cbrannon
20:54 ibeardslee .. it is here .. but it's also still coffee time here ;)
20:54 cbrannon hi wnickc.  :)
20:54 cbrannon rangi, are you out there?
20:55 cbrannon wnickc, I have yet to see you dressed up as a turtle.
20:56 wnickc I am the one in the middle
20:56 wnickc check your email cbrannon
20:57 cbrannon :/ Attachment didn't come through.
20:58 wnickc now?
20:58 wahanui now is, like, good time with holidays coming up
20:58 cbrannon How long ago was that?
20:58 wnickc 2 years?
20:59 wnickc I still have the costume
20:59 cbrannon You look like kids.  :)
20:59 cbrannon And I own that same spice rack.  :)
21:00 wnickc the best was that we were missing raphael but got to pose with several actual children dressed like raphael
21:01 rangi morning
21:01 rangi cbrannon: i am now
21:04 cbrannon Thanks for the photo wnickc!  Now we have something to show at the KohaNA conference.  :)  JK  Funny you had this picture so readily available.
21:09 wnickc yours want the first request
21:09 wnickc gmail: we save everything, regardless of your wishes
21:19 cbrannon wnickc: so do I  ;)
21:24 wnickc eek
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22:00 mtompset Greetings, ebegin.
22:01 mtompset Greetings, Francesca indradg cbrannon rangi. :)
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22:01 Francesca hey
22:01 * indradg waves
22:01 Francesca just realised I forgot to exit IRC last night
22:01 ibeardslee people exit irc?
22:02 indradg hehe
22:03 eythian hi
22:03 wahanui bonjour, eythian
22:04 indradg @wunder kolkata
22:04 huginn` indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 28.0°C (3:20 AM IST on May 08, 2015). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady).
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22:11 mtompset ibeardslee: I do. :P
22:11 mtompset Greetings, ibeardslee. :)
22:11 mtompset Greetings, eythian. :)
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22:15 mtompset Anyone have suggestions on a hosting site that can host a huge amount of data (terabytes) that's: not in the us, command line access, let's me run and install encfs for mounting and unmounting encrypted directory points, and isn't a crazy huge price? We don't need mega ram, cpus, or fast throughput. And generally would only need terabyte dump the first time, usually just a couple GB a month...
22:15 mtompset most.
22:21 eythian what sort of number of terabytes is "huge"?
22:32 mtompset Well, a lot of hosting sites only talk in GB for disk space.
22:32 mtompset I'm thinking 1/2 TB initially. and perhaps 1/2 TB over the course of another 5 years?
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22:35 eythian heh "huge" ;)
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23:07 cbrannon goodnight
23:10 wizzyrea I think I have more disk capacity in my house than that.
23:10 wizzyrea in fact, I'm sure of it.
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23:18 mtompset wizzyrea: The problem is hosting sites typically figure... 1+TB = 64GB+ ram, 10xTB/month, multi-cpu, dedicated hosts, etc. etc.
23:18 mtompset Don't need that.
23:18 mtompset It's all about the space, bout the space, and bandwidth. ;)
23:19 mtompset well, bandwidth initially.
23:30 * Francesca is bored
23:31 mtompset Francesca: play 2048? :)
23:31 Francesca omg if I play that I'll never stop
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23:41 mtompset What's your high score? :)
23:46 Francesca never played it
23:46 Francesca because if I play I know I'll never stop
23:47 mtompset
23:47 mtompset tempt tempt
23:49 Francesca nooo stop
23:50 Francesca I swear I'll never stop
23:51 Francesca right gotta go
23:51 Francesca see ya

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