Time Nick Message 00:02 * dcook waves 00:03 eythian hi dcook 00:05 dcook heya eythian 00:05 dcook I haven't been able to get Anathema out of my head since the other day :p 00:05 dcook Not that I'm complaining. I think you're a positive influence :D 00:06 eythian haha 00:06 eythian dcook: you know that they're playing in Sydney on the 30th of October, right? 00:07 dcook Yep. Wasn't I the one that told you that? :p 00:08 dcook I admit that I had forgotten about that until now though... 00:09 dcook Hmm... $68... that could be doable 00:09 eythian yes, it was you 00:09 eythian oh, that's not a bad price 00:09 dcook That's probably one of the best prices I've actually seen for an overseas artist 00:10 eythian they're probably not well known enough to command high prices 00:10 dcook Well, Amon Amarth was 70-something in 2012 00:10 dcook I didn't go as I had just moved to Oz and felt outraged by the price 00:10 dcook Seeing as I'd paid about... $20-25 to see them in Canada 00:11 dcook Of course, as time goes on, I realize that doing a tour of Australia/New Zealand would be a lot more expensive than Canada/US... 00:12 eythian yeah 00:13 dcook Still, my sister and her husband went to a concert the other day in the US... 00:13 dcook They had to leave after about 3 songs as the show was over an hour late starting and they had to get back home as they had a babysitter... 00:14 dcook But for $20 each... that's not horrible 00:14 dcook I think Mogwai was something like $80-90... I would've been pretty crushed if I had to leave after the first 3 songs of that show... 00:37 dcook Interesting... in 3.14.5, the borrower data isn't provided the same on every tab of the patron record... 00:45 BobB_ hi guys and gals 00:46 BobB_ I've been asked if Koha has LTI support? 00:46 BobB_ Learning Tools Interoperability (LTI) is a standard created by the IMS Global Learning Consortium.[1] 00:46 BobB_ anyone know? 00:47 dcook I think irma was asking about it as well, but I've never heard about it, so I'm guessing no? 00:47 BobB_ oh I should walk to the other side of the office and ask my colleague :) 00:48 BobB_ I might ask on devel list, eh 00:50 dcook Probably a good idea :) 00:50 BobB_ thx dcook 00:56 dcook eythian: Wish I had cause to learn more about the Debian packaging. Seems unfair that it always falls on you :( 01:30 eythian dcook: it's OK, it's just when people go ahead and do things in a way that doesn't include consideration of it that it becomes a problem. 01:31 eythian though I do need to spend some time and get some proper automation going on in it. 01:42 eythian http://i.imgur.com/5D1ZdQG.gifv 01:43 wizzyrea foxes <3 01:46 dcook Automation <3 01:47 dcook Sweet. Getting an industrial dehumidifier to get rid of the dampness in the apartment... 01:54 eythian http://i.imgur.com/fDrwryE.gifv 01:54 dcook hehe 01:54 dcook All right. Be back in a bit Koha folk. 02:16 mtompset Greetings, geek_cl 02:26 mtompset wizzyrea: I think Galen should re-use someone else's ISBN like 0123456789 or 123456789X ;) 02:26 mtompset wizzyrea: I think gmcharlt should re-use someone else's ISBN like 0123456789 or 123456789X ;) 02:26 wizzyrea yeah probably one of the ones that already has like 3x different titles :) 02:58 geek_cl hi mtompset ! 02:58 geek_cl thanks 03:23 * Francesca waves 03:23 eythian hi Francesca 03:23 Francesca afternoon 03:28 mtompset Evening. :P 03:28 mtompset That's why I prefer to stick with good day... because its always within the 24 hour period. :) 03:32 eythian Francesca is in my timezone, so she knows that it's really afternoon. 03:32 Francesca lol 03:32 Francesca mtompset where are you? 03:33 mtompset Ontario, Canada. :) 03:33 Francesca ah 03:33 Francesca cool 03:33 Francesca tell me is it warm there? 03:33 mtompset @wunder l7e5y5 03:33 huginn` mtompset: The current temperature in Toronto Pearson, Ontario is 14.0°C (11:00 PM EDT on May 06, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising). 03:33 Francesca not too warm then 03:34 mtompset Cool evenings/mornings, nice afternoons. 03:34 Francesca bit like here acutally 03:34 Francesca accept we have wind 03:34 Francesca and rain as well 03:36 mtompset eythian: I vaguely recall someone saying it was always beer o'clock. 03:37 eythian which typically happens in the afternoon, mtompset 03:38 Francesca doesn't that usually happen on a friday? 03:38 mtompset Well, if I don't go to sleep until 4am, then I suppose I could call this afternoon. ;) 03:38 eythian Francesca: depends how dedicated you want to be, I guess 03:39 Francesca lol 03:43 * dcook perks up at the mention of beer 03:43 dcook I'm kidding. I just got back to the office. 03:43 dcook But still... beer. 03:47 Francesca lol 03:51 dcook It's so painful reading marketing copy for technology... 03:52 cdickinson @wunder nzwn 03:52 dcook I love how someone can be sued for making incorrect remarks about a person 03:52 huginn` cdickinson: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (3:30 PM NZST on May 07, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). 03:52 dcook But when it's about technology, somehow it's ok just to tell lies and falsehoods 03:52 dcook Well, that is until the robot uprising 03:52 dcook Then they'll have rights too, I guess 03:53 Francesca Hey cdickinson 03:54 cdickinson Oh, hiya Francesca 03:54 Francesca how goes it 03:55 cdickinson Okay, this script I'm working on is so close to working I can almost taste the success, but it's just not :P 03:55 cdickinson how about you? 03:56 cdickinson <mtompset> eythian: I vaguely recall someone saying it was always beer o'clock. <--- I feel like beer o'clock... 03:57 mtompset dcook: Yes, all hail our robot overlords. ;) 03:58 bag it’s always beer o’clock 03:59 dcook Hehe. I was given a free beer at lunch yesterday with my meal, but wasn't sure about the protocol in regards to drinking during the day 03:59 dcook When I first moved to Australia, it seemed like everyone had beer at lunch. I guess I just don't get out enough now :p 03:59 dcook I didn't drink the beer in the end, but - in my defense - it was a bad brand of beer anyway 03:59 dcook Free for a reason... 04:00 bag ha 04:01 wizzyrea cdickinson: I suspect the koha team may be keen for beers generally 04:06 cdickinson dcook: only have it if you enjoy it is my motto as well 04:07 cdickinson there isn't a lot of beer that I hate enough to not drink 04:07 cdickinson wizzyrea: I have stock at home, and it's almost time... it should be good 04:07 wizzyrea :) 04:07 wizzyrea I don't. I should sort that. 04:11 mtompset Okay, one less thing on the Patch does not apply queue. Of course, perhaps Martin will dislike it. :) 04:13 wizzyrea I'm looking at 8753, it's kind of a hot mess :( 04:15 cdickinson Francesca: never mind, got it working 04:16 * Francesca keeps forgetting to look at her IRC window 04:16 Francesca hi wizzyrea! 04:16 wizzyrea heya 04:18 Francesca hows it going 04:19 eythian bug 8753 04:19 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8753 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Failed QA , Add forgot password link to OPAC 04:19 dcook cdickinson: Went to a show at the Opera House the other day and had a beer so bad... I actually couldn't finish it 04:19 dcook Fortunately, my wife is a better beer drinker than I am, so she polished it off :p 04:21 Francesca lol 04:24 mtompset wizzyrea: That's one of the reasons I stopped looking at it. :) 04:26 cdickinson dcook: I want to say that's unthinkable but I totally get it haha 04:26 cdickinson I'm usually more a sweet drink man myself, most of the time 04:26 wizzyrea I'm hoping that saying "hi, yeah this is something we really need but if you're abandoning it please let us know so we can feel ok fixing it" 04:26 wizzyrea will either get them to fix it or abandon it 04:26 cdickinson a good beer is a good beer anyhow 04:27 dcook True that 04:27 dcook Mmm good beer 04:27 * dcook is still waiting on some Wellington recommendations from eythian :p 04:27 dcook Maybe he's waiting for me to visit to show me around himself :p 04:28 eythian http://craftbeercapital.com/ <-- dcook 04:28 * wizzyrea completely defers to eythian on matters beer. 04:32 dcook :D 04:42 mtompset Greetings, indradg. 04:57 Francesca I have returned 04:57 Francesca anyone still around? 04:59 indradg hi mtompset 05:00 mtompset No, no one is around, Francesca. ;) 05:00 cdickinson Don't be silly 05:00 Francesca well since u have all vanished I shall vanish as well 05:00 Francesca My kitty is sitting at the door waiting to be let in 05:01 cdickinson considering the weather today, I don't blame it :P 05:03 dcook The weather was all right today 05:03 dcook Well, cold in the shade and hot in the sun 05:04 eythian we had a stormy night, and it usually takes a day to recover from that 05:04 eythian or two 05:08 dcook Hope it doesn't come our way 05:08 dcook I'm over storms 05:08 dcook Well, storms in my house at least 05:08 dcook So are you going to come to Sydney on Oct 30th, eythian? 05:08 indradg i *hate* stormy nights.... esp ones with thunderstorms.... makes the internet go off for about 12+ hours 05:09 dcook :( 05:09 Francesca the weather has been awful today 05:09 eythian nah, it was just a fairly strong (140kph) NW containing a fair bit of rain, it wasn't a particularly exciting storm 05:09 Francesca Its meant to be like 18 degrees 05:09 eythian dcook: I probably will 05:09 Francesca but it doesn't feel like that 05:10 eythian Francesca: it was late last night, too 05:10 cdickinson huginn reports 18 degrees, but there is no way it's anthing like that 05:10 cdickinson anything* 05:10 Francesca Its colder than that 05:10 eythian metservice says 16 05:10 Francesca for sure 05:10 Francesca that makes more sense 05:11 Francesca my phone says its 18 but that it feels like 15 05:15 dcook eythian: Cool. I'm going to see if buying tickets in person is cheaper than getting them online... 05:15 * dcook isn't a fan of weird arbitrary fees 05:15 dcook @wunder syd 05:15 huginn` dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 19.0°C (3:00 PM AEST on May 07, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 05:15 dcook Hmm, probably about 19 here.. 05:31 mtompset All is well now, indradg? 05:33 mtompset I better sleep. I have a weigh-in tomorrow. 05:34 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha dcook indradg eythian wizzyrea cdickinson 06:03 dcook Interesting... 06:03 wahanui i guess interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 06:03 dcook Apparently we're a partner with EBSCO 06:03 dcook https://www.ebscohost.com/discovery/catalog/eds-additional-partners 06:03 dcook I don't know if I remember that... 06:04 dcook Looks like Catalyst's entry has a bit of bad HTML in it.. 06:04 cdickinson lol 06:30 dcook Ugh, list permissions... 06:33 cait wizzyrea++ :) 06:33 * magnuse waves 06:33 dcook yo, cait && magnuse 06:34 dcook Almost time for lunch I guesss. 06:34 magnuse yo yo yo dcook 06:35 magnuse lunch? 06:35 wahanui well, lunch is a good idea :) 06:36 dcook Well, I had some potato wedges at lunch time, but now I want sandwiches which was going to be my real lunch... 06:36 dcook Nevermind that it's 4:36pm :p 06:36 reiveune hello 06:37 eythian whew, server updates almost done, and this time set up so that I won't have to do them manually nearly so often. 06:45 fridolin hie 06:56 magnuse bonjour fridolin 06:56 magnuse @wunder boo 06:56 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on May 07, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady). 06:58 alex_a bonjour 07:01 fridolin bonjour magnuse , ouuuu chilly 07:01 fridolin @wunder Montpellier 07:01 huginn` fridolin: The current temperature in Montpellier, France is 15.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on May 07, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 07:01 fridolin here at the beach its more 20°C 07:02 dcook @wunder syd 07:02 huginn` dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 17.0°C (4:30 PM AEST on May 07, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). 07:02 dcook Hmm, time for a jumper 07:02 dcook night all :) 07:10 magnuse fridolin: yeah, not quite summer yet... 07:11 gaetan_B hello 07:13 fridolin magnuse: you should come on vacation here ;) 07:17 magnuse i should :-) 07:17 magnuse but it is really lovely here now - everything is turning green and flowers are starting to um flower 07:22 kivilahtio nice 07:22 kivilahtio I am starting to deflower 07:25 magnuse ouch? 07:25 wahanui http://i.imgur.com/SjElkzG.gif 07:29 magnuse wizzyrea++ for thorough testing 08:17 cait hi #koha 08:21 magnuse kia ora cait 08:21 magnuse wassup!?! 08:31 Viktor Hi all of #koha 08:32 Viktor When is string freeze for 3.20? 08:37 Viktor I often have a hard time tracking down all the dates for a release. I tend to think it might live under "release schedule" on the Koha website, but it never does :) 08:38 magnuse i can't remember seeing an actual date. maybe cait does? 08:40 Viktor magnuse: That's good. Then it's probably not that I suck at information retrieval at least :) 08:41 Viktor The translator can do a two person team for sv-se to do the job between string freeze and release, but I need to plan the dates. 08:41 cait Viktor: I think string freeze hasn't been announced so far 08:41 cait release will be 22nd i thnk 08:42 cait and in the email tcohen yesterda asked if a week was enough for translators - so i think maybe he thnks about 22nd -7? 08:42 cait just guessing 08:45 Viktor Thanks cait magnuse 11:38 cait quiet today 11:46 magnuse ssshhh... 11:50 liw the peaceful, meditative silence on some IRC channels, like a rain of petals from a blossoming rose; a Nirvana in the middle of an information overflow, we could watch such quiet forever 11:56 magnuse awww... 11:58 magnuse talking of which: here is a humourous look at the last professional susher in norway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvEI3skBb7g 11:59 magnuse shusher 12:06 * chris_n lobbies for qa on bug 14103 12:06 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14103 critical, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Signed Off , PDF::FromHTML headaches related to optional discharging. 12:06 chris_n :-) 12:06 xarragon I am trying to test the patchset for bug 13853 using git-bz (manually doing it was a PITA). The patch set does not seem to apply cleanly to origin/master; bz "version" field says either "unspecified" or "master". Is the appropiate action to patch/rebase/fix it or mark as "Patch doesn't apply"? 12:06 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13853 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Show waiting hold expiration date for waiting holds in holds ajax datatable 12:07 xarragon Oh, and I checked all the patches/bugs in the "dependency" tree for info on where it is supposed to apply. 12:08 chris_n xarragon: either rebase or mark as not applying 12:08 chris_n sometimes rebase is not so easy, though 12:09 xarragon One of the patches was an obvious fix; another added line from master ruined the patch "anchoring". I'll try to figure out the other one, which seems to be more of an underlying functional change. 12:13 cait xarragon: you applied the other patches first? 12:13 drojf hi #koha 12:13 cait i think you first need 13851 - then 13030 - then 13851 12:13 cait all applied to the same branch in that sequence 12:14 cait if you did and it doesn't apply, worth noting (so you don't get asked if you saw the dependencies :) ) 12:14 cait h idro 12:14 cait hi drojf 12:14 xarragon cait: Ah, ok.. I thought that was the part that bz automated; the patch chain. 12:14 drojf hi cait :) 12:15 xarragon cait: When I tried it manually with wget and patch I traced back up the hierarchy until I saw a patch who's status was 'merged to master'. 12:15 cait git bz is great - but you need to do the dependencies manually 12:15 cait but it wil get you all the patches... which is great 12:16 cait i remember times when we didn't have git bz :) 12:16 cait lots of time lost wgetting and uploading and sorting 12:17 xarragon Yeah, I am used to just having patches pushed to a private branch for review, which makes it retain all the history automagically. 12:17 xarragon But that was just internally at a company. 12:18 chris_n git bz++ 12:20 xarragon Yeah it is a great tool, I was just unused to it. I am not bashing it! :-) 12:21 cait I think we understand :) 12:30 tcohen morning 12:34 cait morning tcohen 12:34 tcohen @seen nengard 12:34 huginn` tcohen: nengard was last seen in #koha 18 hours, 51 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <nengard> hehe 12:36 magnuse hiya tcohen 12:36 * tcohen wants to release the beta 12:44 magnuse tcohen: just do it :-) 12:51 tcohen hi nengard 12:51 nengard morning!! 13:01 tcohen nengard: how do u see the current state of the documentation fr 3.20? 13:01 tcohen is it too far? 13:01 nengard master = 3.20 just like in Koha 13:01 nengard so yes the current state is the 3.20 manual 13:02 tcohen @later tell gmcharlt we need some action on your node so building the docs don't fail. Or you can give me access and I can fix it 13:02 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded. 13:10 nengard tcohen++ 13:10 nengard :) 13:15 tcohen http://status.creativecommons.org/ 13:15 tcohen :/ 14:27 barton set -o vi 14:27 barton heh. 14:27 tcohen heh 14:30 reiveune bye 15:06 nengard anyone know if it would be possible to use the HTML5MediaEnabled preference to embed youtube videos? 15:06 nengard if so any tips on how to catalog it? 15:06 Joubu nengard: I think so, yes 15:10 cait nengard: maybe ask drojf - i think he played with embedding videos 15:21 fridolin see u 15:22 nengard @later tell drojf do you have any tips for cataloging a youtube video so that it streams using the HTML5MediaEnabled preference? 15:22 huginn` nengard: The operation succeeded. 15:25 talljoy is jajm in? 15:28 talljoy @later tell jajm i am looking for information on the csv export in the new item search feature (bz 11425). Does it use a different csv export tool/code than what is used in the reports module? 15:28 huginn` talljoy: The operation succeeded. 15:34 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13758: (QA followup) Make Makefile.PL aware of Koha.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=52c4161c83c9456836a8bfb4b0e1c1ab95896acc> / Bug 13758: Add POD <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b66a334808db99f08925ebcb13eccad5f17acb2f> / Bug 13758: Move the Koha version from kohaversion.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=11049f9d0267 15:38 drojf nengard: youtube has html5 video these days, but to use it within koha you would need the direct url of a .webm video file. i think they are not permanent but expire and you cannot guess them from the youtube url. i don't think there is a way to do it with the feature as it is now, but it might be possible to enhance the feature a little and use something like this https://metacpan.org/pod/WWW::YouTube::Download to generate an url from the regular youtu 15:42 drojf i hope that makes sense 15:48 nengard drojf makes sense and is disappointing :( since the urls expire 15:48 nengard so basically we want a new dev :) hehe 15:48 nengard off to enter an enhancement request 15:49 nengard bug 14168 submitted 15:49 drojf nengard: the other option would be to use the regular youtube embedded video function and mimic the code they generate 15:49 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14168 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , enhance streaming cataloging to include youtube 15:50 gaetan_B bye 15:51 drojf nengard: that looks soething like this http://www.htmlgoodies.com/imagesvr_ce/9722/youtube3.jpg and if you catalogue the url part, the rest around it could be generated. still a new feature though 15:52 nengard yeah that's an option - i'll add it to the bug rpeort 15:53 nengard drojf the thing with that is that you'd need a way to note that it's youtubr 15:53 nengard youtube versus another video 15:58 drojf nengard: i think parsing the 856$u for youtube.com before doing the html5video-stuff (if enabled) would work. but the first option would be nicer in my opinion as it would definitely not involve any flash. the second option would probably let the browser decide and weird/broken flash plugins could lead to users coplaining and blaming koha 15:59 drojf *complaining 15:59 tcohen for commit in $(git rev-list v3.18.00..HEAD) ; do git show --pretty=format:"%aN" $commit | head -n 1 ; done | sort | uniq 16:00 nengard yeah - flash not good :) hehe html5 good 16:01 drojf :D 16:25 khall hey #koha! looking for feedback on bug 14167 especially from Joubu rangi and anyone who's had a hand in previous attempts to add a logger to Koha 16:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14167 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add Koha::Logger based on Log4perl 16:27 * chris_n wonders why mozilla does not fix FF memory leaks 16:27 chris_n its a real pain to have to close FF every few days when one uses a zillion tabs 16:41 chris_n can someone verify that attempting to create a new list from members-home.pl borks? (running the current master) 16:56 tcohen chris_n: how do u create a new list there? 16:59 chris_n browse by last name; click "select all" in the list tool bar; name the list; click save 16:59 * chris_n is testing khall's cool log patch 16:59 khall thanks! 17:00 tcohen http://snag.gy/TaAWx.jpg 17:00 tcohen ah, I did a plain search 17:00 tcohen chris_n: WORKSFORME 17:01 pianohacker khall: *blink* that's right, you exist 17:01 khall lol, I could say the same pianohacker! 17:01 pianohacker what is this cool log patch? 17:01 khall http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14167 17:01 pianohacker khall: you having a bit more of an excuse :) 17:01 huginn` 04Bug 14167: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add Koha::Logger based on Log4perl 17:01 chris_n tcohen: tnx 17:02 * chris_n remembers us discussing Log4perl many moons ago 17:03 chris_n khall: getting "Configuration not defined at /usr/share/perl5/Log/Log4perl/Config.pm line 571." after following the test plan 17:04 khall chris_n: dang, that's not right! Are you sure the configuration file is being passed in to Log4perl? 17:04 khall it sounds like maybe it's not 17:04 khall chris_n: did you restart apache? 17:04 chris_n no; that may be it 17:05 khall rangi first brought up the idea of using log4perl, and it's been on my todo list ever since 17:05 chris_n no joy 17:05 chris_n khall: I've got to run for an hour or so; but I'll look at it more when I get back this afternoon 17:06 khall k, chris_n try dumping the $conf var in Koha::Logger to see what's in it 17:07 * magnuse waves to pianohacker 17:07 pianohacker hi magnuse 17:08 magnuse exams done yet? 17:09 pianohacker magnuse: yup! passed thesis defense and took my last final yesterday. Aside from final thesis editing and paperwork, I'm finally done with school 17:10 talljoy be sure to send us copy of your thesis, leather bound, so we can catalog it for you in our model database! ;-) 17:11 magnuse pianohacker++ 17:11 magnuse @confetti 17:11 huginn` magnuse: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 17:11 magnuse confetti 17:11 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 17:11 magnuse pianohacker: congrats! 17:12 pianohacker thanks magnuse :) 17:13 tcohen confetti 17:13 wahanui i think confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpm3j6aNaN1qh8hleo1_400.gif 17:13 talljoy nice 17:14 tcohen chris_n: it seems i cannot add new patrons to the already created list! 17:14 * magnuse wonders how to translate "discharge" 17:15 tcohen we use something that also translates to "Free of debt" 17:16 magnuse tcohen: hm, yeah, that might make sense 17:16 magnuse what is the word(s) you use? 17:17 tcohen Libre de deuda 17:18 magnuse thanks 17:18 magnuse IdRef and Sudoc, that's unimarc only, right? 17:18 tcohen right 17:19 magnuse thanks again :-) 17:19 magnuse ooh, translating is almost fun now that there are several files i do not have to worry about :-) 17:20 magnuse still annoying that there are a gazillion strings that include "Koha online%s catalog", though 17:22 tcohen hmpf 17:22 tcohen there are like 160 less lines thanks to bernardo's patch 17:22 magnuse yeah, looks like there were only two that needed attention 17:23 magnuse when i get a year of spare time i will make the templates use [% l('text') %] for strings that need trnslating ;-) 17:24 magnuse bgkriegel++ 17:24 tcohen bgkriegel++ 17:25 tcohen magnuse: in that case, it might be worth just changing how we deal with strings all together 17:26 tcohen a_year_of_spare_time++ 17:26 tcohen @query patron lists 17:26 huginn` tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13797 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Applet / Script for combination silent printing/ till drawer kick out from Citizen CBM 1000 slip printer 17:26 huginn` tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1088 enhancement, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , expand independant branches functionallity 17:26 huginn` tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3514 new feature, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Returning items through patron Details tab doesn't activate all circulation functions 17:26 huginn` tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10909 normal, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , You can delete a patron who has created virtualsheves without any warn 17:26 huginn` tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2894 major, P3, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Routing list holds are broken 17:27 magnuse ooh, we have IdRef, idref and IDREF 17:27 tcohen LOL 17:27 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13758: (QA followup) revert case change that broke the tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=20b842e7b0ae1d0378c37ad854532cd1294c574f> / Bug 14103: Improved testing coverage <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c8d364ae727053e40926772ca43c1cb6ff9dc176> / Bug 14103: PDF::FromHTML is conditionally required on UseDischarge systempreference <http://git.koha-commu 17:28 talljoy question: if csv export doesn't import nicely into Excel, but does import into LibreOffice nicely, what are the odds people will want to fix this if i open a bug report? 17:28 talljoy item search csv and excel doesn't play nice together 17:29 magnuse talljoy: that makes me think of bug 10117 17:29 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10117 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Byte Order Mark breaks Patron Import 17:30 magnuse ...which was reported ~2 years ago 17:30 magnuse but... ¡report all the bugs!, i say :-) 17:31 talljoy i'll open this bug then. but i have mixed feelings. it works on libreoffice so use libre office. excel. bah. 17:34 magnuse yeah, but some poor sod will have their pc locked down and unable to install anything non-microsoft 17:39 talljoy very true. bug filed. 17:39 talljoy bug 14169 17:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14169 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Item Search csv export 17:48 magnuse talljoy++ 18:22 nengard hello all welcome to the koha channel 18:52 * chris_n wondered what discharge meant in that context 18:58 chris_n khall: line 51 of Logger.pm was looking for 'log4perl_conf rather than 'log4perl'; I'll fix it 18:59 chris_n also, the test plan should mention fixing up the __FOO__ vars in log4perl.conf with appropriate BAR for one's system when testing 18:59 chris_n working on the rest of the test plan now 19:06 chris_n khall: what owner/perms should the logs have for log4perl? 19:10 Viktor Would SIP2 work to handle payments of overdue fees (and other debts) from the Opac? 19:10 Viktor (Using an external service to handle the actual payment security stuff that is...) 19:12 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 19:15 * chris_n greets mtompset 19:15 mtompset Greetings, chris_n. 19:17 * mtompset cheers that bug 14103 made it through. Now only some GRS testing issues to fix on Jenkins. And that's not my problem. :) 19:17 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14103 critical, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Pushed to Master , PDF::FromHTML headaches related to optional discharging. 19:59 chris_n khall: I'll work on this some more tomorrow 19:59 * chris_n heads out 20:28 andreashm hey all 20:29 * cait waves 20:34 andreashm quit day today? 20:34 andreashm quite 20:34 andreashm quiet 20:34 andreashm gah. =) 20:35 ibeardslee heh .. time for another coffee? 20:35 * wnickc bangs pots and pans together 20:40 andreashm ibeardslee: it's 22:40 here in Stockholm. Rather not have more coffee. =) 20:40 * andreashm is reading Swedish national guidelines for OA 20:42 ibeardslee andreashm: sounds like wine time then 20:43 andreashm ibeardslee: if only it were friday! 20:51 wnickc hi cbrannon 20:54 ibeardslee .. it is here .. but it's also still coffee time here ;) 20:54 cbrannon hi wnickc. :) 20:54 cbrannon rangi, are you out there? 20:55 cbrannon wnickc, I have yet to see you dressed up as a turtle. 20:56 wnickc I am the one in the middle 20:56 wnickc check your email cbrannon 20:57 cbrannon :/ Attachment didn't come through. 20:58 wnickc now? 20:58 wahanui now is, like, good time with holidays coming up 20:58 cbrannon How long ago was that? 20:58 wnickc 2 years? 20:59 wnickc I still have the costume 20:59 cbrannon You look like kids. :) 20:59 cbrannon And I own that same spice rack. :) 21:00 wnickc the best was that we were missing raphael but got to pose with several actual children dressed like raphael 21:01 rangi morning 21:01 rangi cbrannon: i am now 21:04 cbrannon Thanks for the photo wnickc! Now we have something to show at the KohaNA conference. :) JK Funny you had this picture so readily available. 21:09 wnickc yours want the first request 21:09 wnickc gmail: we save everything, regardless of your wishes 21:19 cbrannon wnickc: so do I ;) 21:24 wnickc eek 22:00 mtompset Greetings, ebegin. 22:01 mtompset Greetings, Francesca indradg cbrannon rangi. :) 22:01 Francesca hey 22:01 * indradg waves 22:01 Francesca just realised I forgot to exit IRC last night 22:01 ibeardslee people exit irc? 22:02 indradg hehe 22:03 eythian hi 22:03 wahanui bonjour, eythian 22:04 indradg @wunder kolkata 22:04 huginn` indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 28.0°C (3:20 AM IST on May 08, 2015). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). 22:11 mtompset ibeardslee: I do. :P 22:11 mtompset Greetings, ibeardslee. :) 22:11 mtompset Greetings, eythian. :) 22:15 mtompset Anyone have suggestions on a hosting site that can host a huge amount of data (terabytes) that's: not in the us, command line access, let's me run and install encfs for mounting and unmounting encrypted directory points, and isn't a crazy huge price? We don't need mega ram, cpus, or fast throughput. And generally would only need terabyte dump the first time, usually just a couple GB a month... 22:15 mtompset ...at most. 22:21 eythian what sort of number of terabytes is "huge"? 22:32 mtompset Well, a lot of hosting sites only talk in GB for disk space. 22:32 mtompset I'm thinking 1/2 TB initially. and perhaps 1/2 TB over the course of another 5 years? 22:35 eythian heh "huge" ;) 23:07 cbrannon goodnight 23:10 wizzyrea I think I have more disk capacity in my house than that. 23:10 wizzyrea in fact, I'm sure of it. 23:18 mtompset wizzyrea: The problem is hosting sites typically figure... 1+TB = 64GB+ ram, 10xTB/month, multi-cpu, dedicated hosts, etc. etc. 23:18 mtompset Don't need that. 23:18 mtompset It's all about the space, bout the space, and bandwidth. ;) 23:19 mtompset well, bandwidth initially. 23:30 * Francesca is bored 23:31 mtompset Francesca: play 2048? :) 23:31 Francesca omg if I play that I'll never stop 23:41 mtompset What's your high score? :) 23:46 Francesca never played it 23:46 Francesca because if I play I know I'll never stop 23:47 mtompset http://gabrielecirulli.github.io/2048/ 23:47 mtompset tempt tempt 23:49 Francesca nooo stop 23:50 Francesca I swear I'll never stop 23:51 Francesca right gotta go 23:51 Francesca see ya