Time  Nick        Message
23:51 Francesca   see ya
23:51 Francesca   right gotta go
23:50 Francesca   I swear I'll never stop
23:49 Francesca   nooo stop
23:47 mtompset    tempt tempt
23:47 mtompset    http://gabrielecirulli.github.io/2048/
23:46 Francesca   because if I play I know I'll never stop
23:46 Francesca   never played it
23:41 mtompset    What's your high score? :)
23:31 Francesca   omg if I play that I'll never stop
23:31 mtompset    Francesca: play 2048? :)
23:30 * Francesca is bored
23:19 mtompset    well, bandwidth initially.
23:18 mtompset    It's all about the space, bout the space, and bandwidth. ;)
23:18 mtompset    Don't need that.
23:18 mtompset    wizzyrea: The problem is hosting sites typically figure... 1+TB = 64GB+ ram, 10xTB/month, multi-cpu, dedicated hosts, etc. etc.
23:10 wizzyrea    in fact, I'm sure of it.
23:10 wizzyrea    I think I have more disk capacity in my house than that.
23:07 cbrannon    goodnight
22:35 eythian     heh "huge" ;)
22:32 mtompset    I'm thinking 1/2 TB initially. and perhaps 1/2 TB over the course of another 5 years?
22:32 mtompset    Well, a lot of hosting sites only talk in GB for disk space.
22:21 eythian     what sort of number of terabytes is "huge"?
22:15 mtompset    ...at most.
22:15 mtompset    Anyone have suggestions on a hosting site that can host a huge amount of data (terabytes) that's: not in the us, command line access, let's me run and install encfs for mounting and unmounting encrypted directory points, and isn't a crazy huge price? We don't need mega ram, cpus, or fast throughput. And generally would only need terabyte dump the first time, usually just a couple GB a month...
22:11 mtompset    Greetings, eythian. :)
22:11 mtompset    Greetings, ibeardslee. :)
22:11 mtompset    ibeardslee: I do. :P
22:04 huginn`     indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 28.0°C (3:20 AM IST on May 08, 2015). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady).
22:04 indradg     @wunder kolkata
22:03 wahanui     bonjour, eythian
22:03 eythian     hi
22:02 indradg     hehe
22:01 ibeardslee  people exit irc?
22:01 Francesca   just realised I forgot to exit IRC last night
22:01 * indradg   waves
22:01 Francesca   hey
22:01 mtompset    Greetings, Francesca indradg cbrannon rangi. :)
22:00 mtompset    Greetings, ebegin.
21:24 wnickc      eek
21:19 cbrannon    wnickc: so do I  ;)
21:09 wnickc      gmail: we save everything, regardless of your wishes
21:09 wnickc      yours want the first request
21:04 cbrannon    Thanks for the photo wnickc!  Now we have something to show at the KohaNA conference.  :)  JK  Funny you had this picture so readily available.
21:01 rangi       cbrannon: i am now
21:01 rangi       morning
21:00 wnickc      the best was that we were missing raphael but got to pose with several actual children dressed like raphael
20:59 cbrannon    And I own that same spice rack.  :)
20:59 cbrannon    You look like kids.  :)
20:59 wnickc      I still have the costume
20:58 wnickc      2 years?
20:58 cbrannon    How long ago was that?
20:58 wahanui     now is, like, good time with holidays coming up
20:58 wnickc      now?
20:57 cbrannon    :/ Attachment didn't come through.
20:56 wnickc      check your email cbrannon
20:56 wnickc      I am the one in the middle
20:55 cbrannon    wnickc, I have yet to see you dressed up as a turtle.
20:54 cbrannon    rangi, are you out there?
20:54 cbrannon    hi wnickc.  :)
20:54 ibeardslee  .. it is here .. but it's also still coffee time here ;)
20:51 wnickc      hi cbrannon
20:43 andreashm   ibeardslee: if only it were friday!
20:42 ibeardslee  andreashm: sounds like wine time then
20:40 * andreashm is reading Swedish national guidelines for OA
20:40 andreashm   ibeardslee: it's 22:40 here in Stockholm. Rather not have more coffee. =)
20:35 * wnickc    bangs pots and pans together
20:35 ibeardslee  heh .. time for another coffee?
20:34 andreashm   gah. =)
20:34 andreashm   quiet
20:34 andreashm   quite
20:34 andreashm   quit day today?
20:29 * cait      waves
20:28 andreashm   hey all
19:59 * chris_n   heads out
19:59 chris_n     khall: I'll work on this some more tomorrow
19:17 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14103 critical, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Pushed to Master , PDF::FromHTML headaches related to optional discharging.
19:17 * mtompset  cheers that bug 14103 made it through. Now only some GRS testing issues to fix on Jenkins. And that's not my problem. :)
19:15 mtompset    Greetings, chris_n.
19:15 * chris_n   greets mtompset
19:12 mtompset    Greetings, #koha.
19:10 Viktor      (Using an external service to handle the actual payment security stuff that is...)
19:10 Viktor      Would SIP2 work to handle payments of overdue fees (and other debts) from the Opac?
19:06 chris_n     khall: what owner/perms should the logs have for log4perl?
18:59 chris_n     working on the rest of the test plan now
18:59 chris_n     also, the test plan should mention fixing up the __FOO__ vars in log4perl.conf with appropriate BAR for one's system when testing
18:58 chris_n     khall: line 51 of Logger.pm was looking for 'log4perl_conf rather than 'log4perl'; I'll fix it
18:52 * chris_n   wondered what discharge meant in that context
18:22 nengard     hello all welcome to the koha channel
17:48 magnuse     talljoy++
17:40 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14169 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Item Search csv export
17:39 talljoy     bug 14169
17:39 talljoy     very true.  bug filed.
17:34 magnuse     yeah, but some poor sod will have their pc locked down and unable to install anything non-microsoft
17:31 talljoy     i'll open this bug then.  but i have mixed feelings.  it works on libreoffice so use libre office.  excel.  bah.
17:30 magnuse     but... ¡report all the bugs!, i say :-)
17:30 magnuse     ...which was reported ~2 years ago
17:29 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10117 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Byte Order Mark breaks Patron Import
17:29 magnuse     talljoy: that makes me think of bug 10117
17:28 talljoy     item search csv and excel doesn't play nice together
17:28 talljoy     question: if csv export doesn't import nicely into Excel, but does import into LibreOffice nicely, what are the odds people will want to fix this if i open a bug report?
17:27 huginn`     New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13758: (QA followup) revert case change that broke the tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=20b842e7b0ae1d0378c37ad854532cd1294c574f> / Bug 14103: Improved testing coverage <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c8d364ae727053e40926772ca43c1cb6ff9dc176> / Bug 14103: PDF::FromHTML is conditionally required on UseDischarge systempreference <http://git.koha-commu
17:27 tcohen      LOL
17:27 magnuse     ooh, we have IdRef, idref and IDREF
17:26 huginn`     tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2894 major, P3, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Routing list holds are broken
17:26 huginn`     tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10909 normal, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , You can delete a patron who has created virtualsheves without any warn
17:26 huginn`     tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3514 new feature, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Returning items through patron Details tab doesn't activate all circulation functions
17:26 huginn`     tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1088 enhancement, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , expand independant branches functionallity
17:26 huginn`     tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13797 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Applet / Script for combination silent printing/ till drawer kick out from Citizen CBM 1000 slip printer
17:26 tcohen      @query patron lists
17:26 tcohen      a_year_of_spare_time++
17:25 tcohen      magnuse: in that case, it might be worth just changing how we deal with strings all together
17:24 tcohen      bgkriegel++
17:24 magnuse     bgkriegel++
17:23 magnuse     when i get a year of spare time i will make the templates use [% l('text') %] for strings that need trnslating ;-)
17:22 magnuse     yeah, looks like there were only two that needed attention
17:22 tcohen      there are like 160 less lines thanks to bernardo's patch
17:22 tcohen      hmpf
17:20 magnuse     still annoying that there are a gazillion strings that include "Koha online%s catalog", though
17:19 magnuse     ooh, translating is almost fun now that there are several files i do not have to worry about :-)
17:19 magnuse     thanks again :-)
17:18 tcohen      right
17:18 magnuse     IdRef and Sudoc, that's unimarc only, right?
17:18 magnuse     thanks
17:17 tcohen      Libre de deuda
17:16 magnuse     what is the word(s) you use?
17:16 magnuse     tcohen: hm, yeah, that might make sense
17:15 tcohen      we use something that also translates to "Free of debt"
17:14 * magnuse   wonders how to translate "discharge"
17:14 tcohen      chris_n: it seems i cannot add new patrons to the already created list!
17:13 talljoy     nice
17:13 wahanui     i think confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpm3j6aNaN1qh8hleo1_400.gif
17:13 tcohen      confetti
17:12 pianohacker thanks magnuse :)
17:11 magnuse     pianohacker: congrats!
17:11 wahanui     o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
17:11 magnuse     confetti
17:11 huginn`     magnuse: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
17:11 magnuse     @confetti
17:11 magnuse     pianohacker++
17:10 talljoy     be sure to send us copy of your thesis, leather bound, so we can catalog it for you in our model database!  ;-)
17:09 pianohacker magnuse: yup! passed thesis defense and took my last final yesterday. Aside from final thesis editing and paperwork, I'm finally done with school
17:08 magnuse     exams done yet?
17:07 pianohacker hi magnuse
17:07 * magnuse   waves to pianohacker
17:06 khall       k, chris_n try dumping the $conf var in Koha::Logger to see what's in it
17:05 chris_n     khall: I've got to run for an hour or so; but I'll look at it more when I get back this afternoon
17:05 chris_n     no joy
17:05 khall       rangi first brought up the idea of using log4perl, and it's been on my todo list ever since
17:04 chris_n     no; that may be it
17:04 khall       chris_n: did you restart apache?
17:04 khall       it sounds like maybe it's not
17:04 khall       chris_n: dang, that's not right! Are you sure the configuration file is being passed in to Log4perl?
17:03 chris_n     khall: getting "Configuration not defined at /usr/share/perl5/Log/Log4perl/Config.pm line 571." after following the test plan
17:02 * chris_n   remembers us discussing Log4perl many moons ago
17:01 chris_n     tcohen: tnx
17:01 huginn`     04Bug 14167: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add Koha::Logger based on Log4perl
17:01 pianohacker khall: you having a bit more of an excuse :)
17:01 khall       http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14167
17:01 pianohacker what is this cool log patch?
17:01 khall       lol, I could say the same pianohacker!
17:01 pianohacker khall: *blink* that's right, you exist
17:00 tcohen      chris_n: WORKSFORME
17:00 tcohen      ah, I did a plain search
17:00 tcohen      http://snag.gy/TaAWx.jpg
16:59 khall       thanks!
16:59 * chris_n   is testing khall's cool log patch
16:59 chris_n     browse by last name; click "select all" in the list tool bar; name the list; click save
16:56 tcohen      chris_n: how do u create a new list there?
16:41 chris_n     can someone verify that attempting to create a new list from members-home.pl borks? (running the current master)
16:27 chris_n     its a real pain to have to close FF every few days when one uses a zillion tabs
16:27 * chris_n   wonders why mozilla does not fix FF memory leaks
16:25 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14167 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add Koha::Logger based on Log4perl
16:25 khall       hey #koha! looking for feedback on bug 14167 especially from Joubu rangi and anyone who's had a hand in previous attempts to add a logger to Koha
16:01 drojf       :D
16:00 nengard     yeah - flash not good :) hehe html5 good
15:59 tcohen      for commit in $(git rev-list v3.18.00..HEAD) ; do git show --pretty=format:"%aN" $commit | head -n 1 ; done | sort | uniq
15:59 drojf       *complaining
15:58 drojf       nengard: i think parsing the 856$u for youtube.com before doing the html5video-stuff (if enabled) would work. but the first option would be nicer in my opinion as it would definitely not involve any flash. the second option would probably let the browser decide and weird/broken flash plugins could lead to users coplaining and blaming koha
15:53 nengard     youtube versus another video
15:53 nengard     drojf the thing with that is that you'd need a way to note that it's youtubr
15:52 nengard     yeah that's an option - i'll add it to the bug rpeort
15:51 drojf       nengard: that looks soething like this http://www.htmlgoodies.com/imagesvr_ce/9722/youtube3.jpg and if you catalogue the url part, the rest around it could be generated. still a new feature though
15:50 gaetan_B    bye
15:49 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14168 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , enhance streaming cataloging to include youtube
15:49 drojf       nengard: the other option would be to use the regular youtube embedded video function and mimic the code they generate
15:49 nengard     bug 14168 submitted
15:48 nengard     off to enter an enhancement request
15:48 nengard     so basically we want a new dev :) hehe
15:48 nengard     drojf makes sense and is disappointing :( since the urls expire
15:42 drojf       i hope that makes sense
15:38 drojf       nengard: youtube has html5 video these days, but to use it within koha you would need the direct url of a .webm video file. i think they are not permanent but expire and you cannot guess them from the youtube url. i don't think there is a way to do it with the feature as it is now, but it might be possible to enhance the feature a little and use something like this https://metacpan.org/pod/WWW::YouTube::Download to generate an url from the regular youtu
15:34 huginn`     New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13758: (QA followup) Make Makefile.PL aware of Koha.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=52c4161c83c9456836a8bfb4b0e1c1ab95896acc> / Bug 13758: Add POD <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b66a334808db99f08925ebcb13eccad5f17acb2f> / Bug 13758: Move the Koha version from kohaversion.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=11049f9d0267
15:28 huginn`     talljoy: The operation succeeded.
15:28 talljoy     @later tell jajm i am looking for information on the csv export in the new item search feature (bz 11425).  Does it use a different csv export tool/code than what is used in the reports module?
15:25 talljoy     is jajm in?
15:22 huginn`     nengard: The operation succeeded.
15:22 nengard     @later tell drojf do you have any tips for cataloging a youtube video so that it streams using the HTML5MediaEnabled preference?
15:21 fridolin    see u
15:10 cait        nengard: maybe ask drojf - i think he played with embedding videos
15:06 Joubu       nengard: I think so, yes
15:06 nengard     if so any tips on how to catalog it?
15:06 nengard     anyone know if it would be possible to use the HTML5MediaEnabled preference to embed youtube videos?
14:30 reiveune    bye
14:27 tcohen      heh
14:27 barton      heh.
14:27 barton      set -o vi
13:15 tcohen      :/
13:15 tcohen      http://status.creativecommons.org/
13:10 nengard     :)
13:10 nengard     tcohen++
13:02 huginn`     tcohen: The operation succeeded.
13:02 tcohen      @later tell gmcharlt we need some action on your node so building the docs don't fail. Or you can give me access and I can fix it
13:01 nengard     so yes the current state is the 3.20 manual
13:01 nengard     master = 3.20 just like in Koha
13:01 tcohen      is it too far?
13:01 tcohen      nengard: how do u see the current state of the documentation fr 3.20?
12:51 nengard     morning!!
12:51 tcohen      hi nengard
12:44 magnuse     tcohen: just do it :-)
12:36 * tcohen    wants to release the beta
12:36 magnuse     hiya tcohen
12:34 huginn`     tcohen: nengard was last seen in #koha 18 hours, 51 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <nengard> hehe
12:34 tcohen      @seen nengard
12:34 cait        morning tcohen
12:30 tcohen      morning
12:21 cait        I think we understand :)
12:20 xarragon    Yeah it is a great tool, I was just unused to it. I am not bashing it! :-)
12:18 chris_n     git bz++
12:17 xarragon    But that was just internally at a company.
12:17 xarragon    Yeah, I am used to just having patches pushed to a private branch for review, which makes it retain all the history automagically.
12:16 cait        lots of time lost wgetting and uploading and sorting
12:16 cait        i remember times when we didn't have git bz :)
12:15 cait        but it wil get you all the patches... which is great
12:15 cait        git bz is great - but you need to do the dependencies manually
12:15 xarragon    cait: When I tried it manually with wget and patch I traced back up the hierarchy until I saw a patch who's status was 'merged to master'.
12:14 drojf       hi cait :)
12:14 xarragon    cait: Ah, ok.. I thought that was the part that bz automated; the patch chain.
12:14 cait        hi drojf
12:14 cait        h idro
12:14 cait        if you did and it doesn't apply, worth noting (so you don't get asked if you saw the dependencies :) )
12:13 cait        all applied to the same branch in that sequence
12:13 cait        i think you first need 13851 - then 13030 - then 13851
12:13 drojf       hi #koha
12:13 cait        xarragon: you applied the other patches first?
12:09 xarragon    One of the patches was an obvious fix; another added line from master ruined the patch "anchoring". I'll try to figure out the other one, which seems to be more of an underlying functional change.
12:08 chris_n     sometimes rebase is not so easy, though
12:08 chris_n     xarragon: either rebase or mark as not applying
12:07 xarragon    Oh, and I checked all the patches/bugs in the "dependency" tree for info on where it is supposed to apply.
12:06 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13853 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Show waiting hold expiration date for waiting holds in holds ajax datatable
12:06 xarragon    I am trying to test the patchset for bug 13853 using git-bz (manually doing it was a PITA). The patch set does not seem to apply cleanly to origin/master; bz "version" field says either "unspecified" or "master". Is the appropiate action to patch/rebase/fix it or mark as "Patch doesn't apply"?
12:06 chris_n     :-)
12:06 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14103 critical, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Signed Off , PDF::FromHTML headaches related to optional discharging.
12:06 * chris_n   lobbies for qa on bug 14103
11:59 magnuse     shusher
11:58 magnuse     talking of which: here is a humourous look at the last professional susher in norway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvEI3skBb7g
11:56 magnuse     awww...
11:50 liw         the peaceful, meditative silence on some IRC channels, like a rain of petals from a blossoming rose; a Nirvana in the middle of an information overflow, we could watch such quiet forever
11:46 magnuse     ssshhh...
11:38 cait        quiet today
08:45 Viktor      Thanks cait magnuse
08:42 cait        just guessing
08:42 cait        and in the email tcohen yesterda asked if a week was enough for translators - so i think maybe he thnks about 22nd -7?
08:41 cait        release will be 22nd i thnk
08:41 cait        Viktor: I think string freeze hasn't been announced so far
08:41 Viktor      The translator can do a two person team for sv-se to do the job between string freeze and release, but I need to plan the dates.
08:40 Viktor      magnuse: That's good. Then it's probably not that I suck at information retrieval at least :)
08:38 magnuse     i can't remember seeing an actual date. maybe cait does?
08:37 Viktor      I often have a hard time tracking down all the dates for a release. I tend to think it might live under "release schedule" on the Koha website, but it never does :)
08:32 Viktor      When is string freeze for 3.20?
08:31 Viktor      Hi all of #koha
08:21 magnuse     wassup!?!
08:21 magnuse     kia ora cait
08:17 cait        hi #koha
07:29 magnuse     wizzyrea++ for thorough testing
07:25 wahanui     http://i.imgur.com/SjElkzG.gif
07:25 magnuse     ouch?
07:22 kivilahtio  I am starting to deflower
07:22 kivilahtio  nice
07:17 magnuse     but it is really lovely here now - everything is turning green and flowers are starting to um flower
07:17 magnuse     i should :-)
07:13 fridolin    magnuse: you should come on vacation here ;)
07:11 gaetan_B    hello
07:10 magnuse     fridolin: yeah, not quite summer yet...
07:02 dcook       night all :)
07:02 dcook       Hmm, time for a jumper
07:02 huginn`     dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 17.0°C (4:30 PM AEST on May 07, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
07:02 dcook       @wunder syd
07:01 fridolin    here at the beach its more 20°C
07:01 huginn`     fridolin: The current temperature in Montpellier, France is 15.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on May 07, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
07:01 fridolin    @wunder Montpellier
07:01 fridolin    bonjour magnuse , ouuuu chilly
06:58 alex_a      bonjour
06:56 huginn`     magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on May 07, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady).
06:56 magnuse     @wunder boo
06:56 magnuse     bonjour fridolin
06:45 fridolin    hie
06:37 eythian     whew, server updates almost done, and this time set up so that I won't have to do them manually nearly so often.
06:36 reiveune    hello
06:36 dcook       Nevermind that it's 4:36pm :p
06:36 dcook       Well, I had some potato wedges at lunch time, but now I want sandwiches which was going to be my real lunch...
06:35 wahanui     well, lunch is a good idea :)
06:35 magnuse     lunch?
06:34 magnuse     yo yo yo dcook
06:34 dcook       Almost time for lunch I guesss.
06:33 dcook       yo, cait && magnuse
06:33 * magnuse   waves
06:33 cait        wizzyrea++ :)
06:30 dcook       Ugh, list permissions...
06:04 cdickinson  lol
06:04 dcook       Looks like Catalyst's entry has a bit of bad HTML in it..
06:03 dcook       I don't know if I remember that...
06:03 dcook       https://www.ebscohost.com/discovery/catalog/eds-additional-partners
06:03 dcook       Apparently we're a partner with EBSCO
06:03 wahanui     i guess interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
06:03 dcook       Interesting...
05:34 mtompset    Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha dcook indradg eythian wizzyrea cdickinson
05:33 mtompset    I better sleep. I have a weigh-in tomorrow.
05:31 mtompset    All is well now, indradg?
05:15 dcook       Hmm, probably about 19 here..
05:15 huginn`     dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 19.0°C (3:00 PM AEST on May 07, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
05:15 dcook       @wunder syd
05:15 * dcook     isn't a fan of weird arbitrary fees
05:15 dcook       eythian: Cool. I'm going to see if buying tickets in person is cheaper than getting them online...
05:11 Francesca   my phone says its 18 but that it feels like 15
05:10 Francesca   that makes more sense
05:10 Francesca   for sure
05:10 eythian     metservice says 16
05:10 Francesca   Its colder than that
05:10 cdickinson  anything*
05:10 cdickinson  huginn reports 18 degrees, but there is no way it's anthing like that
05:10 eythian     Francesca: it was late last night, too
05:09 Francesca   but it doesn't feel like that
05:09 eythian     dcook: I probably will
05:09 Francesca   Its meant to be like 18 degrees
05:09 eythian     nah, it was just a fairly strong (140kph) NW containing a fair bit of rain, it wasn't a particularly exciting storm
05:09 Francesca   the weather has been awful today
05:09 dcook       :(
05:08 indradg     i *hate* stormy nights.... esp ones with thunderstorms.... makes the internet go off for about 12+ hours
05:08 dcook       So are you going to come to Sydney on Oct 30th, eythian?
05:08 dcook       Well, storms in my house at least
05:08 dcook       I'm over storms
05:08 dcook       Hope it doesn't come our way
05:04 eythian     or two
05:04 eythian     we had a stormy night, and it usually takes a day to recover from that
05:03 dcook       Well, cold in the shade and hot in the sun
05:03 dcook       The weather was all right today
05:01 cdickinson  considering the weather today, I don't blame it :P
05:00 Francesca   My kitty is sitting at the door waiting to be let in
05:00 Francesca   well since u have all vanished I shall vanish as well
05:00 cdickinson  Don't be silly
05:00 mtompset    No, no one is around, Francesca. ;)
04:59 indradg     hi mtompset
04:57 Francesca   anyone still around?
04:57 Francesca   I have returned
04:42 mtompset    Greetings, indradg.
04:32 dcook       :D
04:28 * wizzyrea  completely defers to eythian on matters beer.
04:28 eythian     http://craftbeercapital.com/ <-- dcook
04:27 dcook       Maybe he's waiting for me to visit to show me around himself :p
04:27 * dcook     is still waiting on some Wellington recommendations from eythian :p
04:27 dcook       Mmm good beer
04:27 dcook       True that
04:26 cdickinson  a good beer is a good beer anyhow
04:26 wizzyrea    will either get them to fix it or abandon it
04:26 wizzyrea    I'm hoping that saying "hi, yeah this is something we really need but if you're abandoning it please let us know so we can feel ok fixing it"
04:26 cdickinson  I'm usually more a sweet drink man myself, most of the time
04:26 cdickinson  dcook: I want to say that's unthinkable but I totally get it haha
04:24 mtompset    wizzyrea: That's one of the reasons I stopped looking at it. :)
04:21 Francesca   lol
04:19 dcook       Fortunately, my wife is a better beer drinker than I am, so she polished it off :p
04:19 dcook       cdickinson: Went to a show at the Opera House the other day and had a beer so bad... I actually couldn't finish it
04:19 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8753 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Failed QA , Add forgot password link to OPAC
04:19 eythian     bug 8753
04:18 Francesca   hows it going
04:16 wizzyrea    heya
04:16 Francesca   hi wizzyrea!
04:16 * Francesca keeps forgetting to look at her IRC window
04:15 cdickinson  Francesca: never mind, got it working
04:13 wizzyrea    I'm looking at 8753, it's kind of a hot mess :(
04:11 mtompset    Okay, one less thing on the Patch does not apply queue. Of course, perhaps Martin will dislike it. :)
04:07 wizzyrea    I don't. I should sort that.
04:07 wizzyrea    :)
04:07 cdickinson  wizzyrea: I have stock at home, and it's almost time... it should be good
04:07 cdickinson  there isn't a lot of beer that I hate enough to not drink
04:06 cdickinson  dcook: only have it if you enjoy it is my motto as well
04:01 wizzyrea    cdickinson: I suspect the koha team may be keen for beers generally
04:00 bag         ha
03:59 dcook       Free for a reason...
03:59 dcook       I didn't drink the beer in the end, but - in my defense - it was a bad brand of beer anyway
03:59 dcook       When I first moved to Australia, it seemed like everyone had beer at lunch. I guess I just don't get out enough now :p
03:59 dcook       Hehe. I was given a free beer at lunch yesterday with my meal, but wasn't sure about the protocol in regards to drinking during the day
03:58 bag         it’s always beer o’clock
03:57 mtompset    dcook: Yes, all hail our robot overlords. ;)
03:56 cdickinson  <mtompset> eythian: I vaguely recall someone saying it was always beer o'clock. <--- I feel like beer o'clock...
03:55 cdickinson  how about you?
03:55 cdickinson  Okay, this script I'm working on is so close to working I can almost taste the success, but it's just not :P
03:54 Francesca   how goes it
03:54 cdickinson  Oh, hiya Francesca
03:53 Francesca   Hey cdickinson
03:52 dcook       Then they'll have rights too, I guess
03:52 dcook       Well, that is until the robot uprising
03:52 dcook       But when it's about technology, somehow it's ok just to tell lies and falsehoods
03:52 huginn`     cdickinson: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (3:30 PM NZST on May 07, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
03:52 dcook       I love how someone can be sued for making incorrect remarks about a person
03:52 cdickinson  @wunder nzwn
03:51 dcook       It's so painful reading marketing copy for technology...
03:47 Francesca   lol
03:43 dcook       But still... beer.
03:43 dcook       I'm kidding. I just got back to the office.
03:43 * dcook     perks up at the mention of beer
03:39 Francesca   lol
03:38 eythian     Francesca: depends how dedicated you want to be, I guess
03:38 mtompset    Well, if I don't go to sleep until 4am, then I suppose I could call this afternoon. ;)
03:38 Francesca   doesn't that usually happen on a friday?
03:37 eythian     which typically happens in the afternoon, mtompset
03:36 mtompset    eythian: I vaguely recall someone saying it was always beer o'clock.
03:34 Francesca   and rain as well
03:34 Francesca   accept we have wind
03:34 Francesca   bit like here acutally
03:34 mtompset    Cool evenings/mornings, nice afternoons.
03:33 Francesca   not too warm then
03:33 huginn`     mtompset: The current temperature in Toronto Pearson, Ontario is 14.0°C (11:00 PM EDT on May 06, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising).
03:33 mtompset    @wunder l7e5y5
03:33 Francesca   tell me is it warm there?
03:33 Francesca   cool
03:33 Francesca   ah
03:33 mtompset    Ontario, Canada. :)
03:32 Francesca   mtompset where are you?
03:32 Francesca   lol
03:32 eythian     Francesca is in my timezone, so she knows that it's really afternoon.
03:28 mtompset    That's why I prefer to stick with good day... because its always within the 24 hour period. :)
03:28 mtompset    Evening. :P
03:23 Francesca   afternoon
03:23 eythian     hi Francesca
03:23 * Francesca waves
02:58 geek_cl     thanks
02:58 geek_cl     hi mtompset !
02:26 wizzyrea    yeah probably one of the ones that already has like 3x different titles :)
02:26 mtompset    wizzyrea: I think gmcharlt should re-use someone else's ISBN like 0123456789 or 123456789X ;)
02:26 mtompset    wizzyrea: I think Galen should re-use someone else's ISBN like 0123456789 or 123456789X ;)
02:16 mtompset    Greetings, geek_cl
01:54 dcook       All right. Be back in a bit Koha folk.
01:54 dcook       hehe
01:54 eythian     http://i.imgur.com/fDrwryE.gifv
01:47 dcook       Sweet. Getting an industrial dehumidifier to get rid of the dampness in the apartment...
01:46 dcook       Automation <3
01:43 wizzyrea    foxes <3
01:42 eythian     http://i.imgur.com/5D1ZdQG.gifv
01:31 eythian     though I do need to spend some time and get some proper automation going on in it.
01:30 eythian     dcook: it's OK, it's just when people go ahead and do things in a way that doesn't include consideration of it that it becomes a problem.
00:56 dcook       eythian: Wish I had cause to learn more about the Debian packaging. Seems unfair that it always falls on you :(
00:50 BobB_       thx dcook
00:50 dcook       Probably a good idea :)
00:48 BobB_       I might ask on devel list, eh
00:47 BobB_       oh I should walk to the other side of the office and ask my colleague  :)
00:47 dcook       I think irma was asking about it as well, but I've never heard about it, so I'm guessing no?
00:46 BobB_       anyone know?
00:46 BobB_       Learning Tools Interoperability (LTI) is a standard created by the IMS Global Learning Consortium.[1]
00:46 BobB_       I've been asked if Koha has LTI support?
00:45 BobB_       hi guys and gals
00:37 dcook       Interesting... in 3.14.5, the borrower data isn't provided the same on every tab of the patron record...
00:14 dcook       I think Mogwai was something like $80-90... I would've been pretty crushed if I had to leave after the first 3 songs of that show...
00:14 dcook       But for $20 each... that's not horrible
00:13 dcook       They had to leave after about 3 songs as the show was over an hour late starting and they had to get back home as they had a babysitter...
00:13 dcook       Still, my sister and her husband went to a concert the other day in the US...
00:12 eythian     yeah
00:11 dcook       Of course, as time goes on, I realize that doing a tour of Australia/New Zealand would be a lot more expensive than Canada/US...
00:10 dcook       Seeing as I'd paid about... $20-25 to see them in Canada
00:10 dcook       I didn't go as I had just moved to Oz and felt outraged by the price
00:10 dcook       Well, Amon Amarth was 70-something in 2012
00:10 eythian     they're probably not well known enough to command high prices
00:09 dcook       That's probably one of the best prices I've actually seen for an overseas artist
00:09 eythian     oh, that's not a bad price
00:09 eythian     yes, it was you
00:09 dcook       Hmm... $68... that could be doable
00:08 dcook       I admit that I had forgotten about that until now though...
00:07 dcook       Yep. Wasn't I the one that told you that? :p
00:06 eythian     dcook: you know that they're playing in Sydney on the 30th of October, right?
00:06 eythian     haha
00:05 dcook       Not that I'm complaining. I think you're a positive influence :D
00:05 dcook       I haven't been able to get Anathema out of my head since the other day :p
00:05 dcook       heya eythian
00:03 eythian     hi dcook
00:02 * dcook     waves