IRC log for #koha, 2015-04-01

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04:17 eythian hi
04:19 eythian @later tell magnuse it's not really my baby at the moment, I think rangi was looking at it a while ago, unsure of the status
04:19 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
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07:05 alex_a bonjour
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07:36 gaetan_B hello
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07:47 cait morning all
07:48 atheia morning cait!
07:49 nlegrand Hiya #koha
07:56 Joubu Good morning #koha
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09:54 Joubu patrons search using the checkout tab is broken, I'm working on it
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10:08 Joubu patch on bug 13936
10:08 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13936 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Fix patrons search on using the checkout tab
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11:00 carmen Good morning everyone
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12:08 cait hi carmen :)
12:08 carmen hello  Cait :D
12:14 Joubu cait: "it's not functional" on bug 9083, you meant even for overdue and adv notices
12:14 Joubu ?
12:14 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9083 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , <<items.content>> in checkin/checkout notices does nothing
12:15 cait Joubu: ah no, just it appears on the left side when you create a notice, when you can't use it
12:15 cait but not sure we can fix that, as the notices are all in the circulation module
12:15 Joubu yes, that's the problem
12:15 cait i had a library asking i think, why not all of the displayed options worked
12:15 cait you are commenting on really old bugs, hard to remember! :)
12:16 cait i think it would be nice to clean all that up one day... so we use the <item> syntax everywhere as it's the most flexible
12:16 cait but... yeah
12:16 Joubu yes... one day :)
12:16 Joubu I don't have a quick and easy solution for this one, sorry
12:16 cait it's ok
12:17 cait your work no the old bugs is much appreciated!
12:18 Joubu a lot of these bugs have been quickly fixed :)
12:18 Joubu too bad to have let them not fixed for so long
12:18 Joubu lunch time, bbl
12:18 cait yeah, but we concentrate on the 'now' -- and now i am happy they are getting fixed :)
12:18 cait enjoy!
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12:29 tcohen morning
12:30 tcohen @later tell rangi yup, i don't think it is worth a forced git push at all
12:30 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
12:31 tcohen hi Joubu
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13:06 khall looking for feedback on bug 13937
13:06 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13937 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, NEW , Add a 'primary status' field for items
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13:29 Joubu Hi tcohen
13:30 Joubu Have you seen the critical bug I have opened few hours ago?
13:30 tcohen hi Joubu
13:31 tcohen i didn't Joubu
13:32 Joubu tcohen: bug 13936
13:32 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13936 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Fix patrons search on using the checkout tab
13:33 Joubu tcohen: and last comments on bug 13894
13:33 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13894 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , SQLHelper replacement - C4::Members::Search -
13:36 khall hey all, has anyone seen an issue with Koha 3.18.04 where you can no longer import marc records through the staging tool? I've seen this on two separate servers
13:36 khall it's happening because the AutoCommit isn't on and $dbh->commit() never gets called
13:37 khall and yet it works just fine on my test server!
13:38 khall you can get around it by always choosing a matcher
13:39 khall this seems like *serious* bug
13:41 Joubu khall: I suppose your test server uses the same version?
13:41 Joubu khall: Did you compare DBI and DBIX::Class version?
13:41 khall right, but it's usually on master and I just checked out v3.18.04
13:41 khall interesting idea, I'll take a look!
13:42 tcohen Joubu: I'm in the middle of a DSpace disaster recovery
13:43 Joubu tcohen: arg, so good luck :)
13:51 khall Joubu: no difference in the DBI or DBIC module versions
13:53 Joubu khall: Did you try to import exactly the same file?
13:53 khall yes, every time
13:53 khall on both servers
13:53 khall and it works fine if you choose a matching rule
13:53 Joubu It remembers me an issue with the size of the file
13:53 khall but fails to commit if you don't
13:53 khall I've been using this file for years now, got it from cait
13:54 Joubu ha, it was bug 8970, but it was Plack related
13:54 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8970 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , MARC import gives error under Starman/Plack
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13:55 Joubu khall: the issue occurs on production servers I suppose?
13:55 khall yes
13:55 Joubu It would be good to try to revert 750a9ec97cbc44c6d1d8a6c595019cee7d96ef8e just to know if it is the one to blame
13:55 Joubu But not a good idea on a production server :)
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13:57 khall one is production, one is test, I can try that
13:59 khall Joubu: you were bang on, reverting 750a9ec97cbc44c6d1d8a6c595019cee7d96ef8e fixes it!
13:59 khall I was already beginning to suspect bug 8970 from the commit history
13:59 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8970 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , MARC import gives error under Starman/Plack
14:00 khall this confirms it
14:00 Joubu erk, too bad :-/
14:01 khall to seems to me that if we just added:
14:02 khall else { $dbh->commit(); } at line 159 on it would fix it
14:02 cait khall, Joubu - as i have you around... should we try and do a qa sprint or something sometime soon?
14:02 khall I don't know what the implications are though
14:03 khall cait, sure! Fridays are always good for me
14:03 cait hm this friday is a holiday here - maybe next?
14:04 cait how could we organize, like a bug squash? or put a list on the wiki for grabbing... google doc? open to any and all ideas :)
14:04 cait i got a long weekend to tinker with some things
14:05 Joubu khall: We will need to try with Plack
14:05 Joubu cait: yes, good idea
14:06 khall Joubu: yes, that works. I'll file a bug report and patch
14:06 cait Joubu: would friday 10th work?
14:06 khall I don't have a plack environment to test on though
14:08 Joubu cait: sounds good
14:08 Joubu anyway, I will try to do some QA next week
14:08 cait ok, will send out an email to gather some ideas soonish
14:10 Joubu There is a blocker in the QA queue, see bug 13933
14:10 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13933 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , t/DateUtils.t causes the build to break (from bug 13601)
14:11 Joubu khall: don't forget to link the new one with 8970
14:11 khall will do!
14:11 khall Joubu: I can qa 13933
14:12 Joubu khall: I am sure eythian will tell you thank you :)
14:13 khall[…]_bug.cgi?id=13938
14:13 huginn Bug 13938: critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Staging MARC records for import fails
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14:18 cait library asking for a checkin slip... :(
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16:17 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13933: Fix t/DateUtils.t without DB <[…]95a8b19e0eed5702d> / Bug 9580: DBRev <[…]59dbf8c91ad401809> / Bug 9580: (QA followup) add a Coce syspref and fix options for Providers <[…]=commitdiff;h=4ad
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17:02 gaetan_B bye
17:05 tcohen anyone, bug 13909 please?
17:05 tcohen :-D
17:05 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13909 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , _debar_user_on_return doesn't honour finesCalendar
17:18 barton @seen oleonard
17:18 huginn barton: oleonard was last seen in #koha 4 weeks, 4 days, 23 hours, 23 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <oleonard> That's very strange squash. I'm sorry, I don't know what's going on.
17:18 barton dang, what happened to owen??
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17:47 khall I feel this to be true, your milage may vary[…]SS-gif-I-lEO1.gif
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19:19 nengard can anyone tell me for the manual what email address emailLibrarianWhenHoldIsPlaced uses?
19:19 nengard is it the patron's branch it uses to pick an email to send to?
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20:08 wizzyrea afaict it's the branch email
20:08 wizzyrea er that may not be right it may be the kohaadmin
20:08 wizzyrea because that setting isn't per branch.
20:09 wizzyrea my $branch_details = C4::Branch::GetBranchDetail​($borrower->{branchcode});
20:10 wizzyrea patron's branch
20:10 wizzyrea nengard ^
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20:41 misilot I know Hard Due Date exists, but is there a duedate setting that will only allow checkouts to happen before this date? We in the past had a hard due date (which seems to be a different idea in Koha). We usually set the max an item could be checked out to the end of the semester, and kept changing every semester. As well as they can't have a due date past their expiration date. We haven't hit the expiration date, but wanted to see if there was a simple
20:41 misilot answer without having to go edit some accounts and check out and checkin a bunch of items.
20:48 cait misilot: which version of Koha?
20:48 wahanui which version of Koha are you using?
20:48 misilot 3.16
20:48 cait did you notice the 3 settings on the pull down for the hard due date in the circulation conditions?
20:49 cait I think if you set it to before
20:49 cait that should do it
20:49 cait it will calculate the due date regularly... as long as it's before that date
20:50 cait the date limits the due date... when it would fall after, it still ends on this date
20:50 misilot ah, ok thanks cait that makes sense
20:50 misilot thank you
20:51 cait np - we don't use it, but it should work :)
20:51 misilot If the expiration date is before the hard due date or any due date, shorten the checkout to that date?
20:52 cait hm do you mean the exipration date on the patron account?
20:52 cait date expiry for the card?
20:52 misilot yes
20:52 cait there is a sys pref for the behaviour there
20:53 cait it will either allow the due date to fall behind the expiry date
20:53 cait or force the loan period to shorten - stop at the expiry date
20:53 cait ReturnBeforeExpiry
20:54 misilot thank you
21:07 eythian hi
21:07 wahanui kia ora, eythian
21:09 eythian yay! virtual friday!
21:11 cait holiday on friday? :)
21:16 eythian cait: 4-day weekend, yeah
21:16 cait same here
21:16 cait really looking forward to it
21:17 eythian yeah. Unfortunately the weather is good, so I'll feel slightly bad about sitting in playing games and watching movies.
21:18 cait heh
21:18 cait we got what we call 'april weather' here
21:18 cait it means ' anything can happen'
21:18 cait today it was a mix of sun, rain and hail
21:19 eythian heh. Our summer is being surprisingly extended. The occasional storm to mix it up, but mostly mild.
21:19 eythian @wunder nzwn
21:19 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (10:00 AM NZDT on April 02, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
21:27 wizzyrea yeah, it took a long time to get here, and now it's taking a long time to go
21:28 wizzyrea note: Totally *not* complaining.
21:28 cait the hail decided to happen when we were outside on the way to lunch ... some o fit at laest
21:29 wizzyrea yowch.
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22:07 rangi hey cdickinson
22:07 rangi <-- chris
22:07 cdickinson Hiya
22:07 cdickinson I'm Callum :P
22:07 rangi[…]-own-gpg-key.html
22:07 rangi id go for 4096
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22:08 rangi eythian: do we like dsa or rsa these days?
22:08 eythian I think whatever the default is is fine
22:08 eythian mine is RSA, but it's done in hardware.
22:08 cdickinson Okay, cool
22:09 eythian[…]gp-best-practices <-- apparently RSA, but I don't think it matters overly
22:09 * cait waves and heads off to bed
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22:10 cdickinson would it be alright if I let the key be valid indefinitely, or do I need to change it occasionally?
22:11 rangi its kinda good practice to expiry it every few years, but i leave my valid, and then create a revocation certificate, so i can revoke it and make a new one
22:12 wizzyrea dcook:[…]gn=social_apr2015
22:12 dcook O_O
22:12 wizzyrea ^ I expect you to get yourself some of those
22:12 cdickinson Ah, okay
22:12 wizzyrea ^.^
22:12 dcook Alas, I don't know how that's going to be possible :(
22:12 eythian you can also renew the expiry
22:12 dcook Heading to Melbourne tomorrow and I have at least 3 things on the to do list for this evening
22:13 eythian I'd recommend having it for ~5 years, that way if you lose control of it, it'll stop being valid eventually
22:13 rangi good point
22:13 wizzyrea that's good, because it ends at 6pm :P
22:14 * dcook noticed eythian's expiry the other day when looking at his own keyring :p
22:15 dcook wizzyrea: I'm thinking maybe a long lunch is in order
22:15 wizzyrea that's the spirit.
22:15 eythian my current one doesn't expire because it's in a yubikey and so it's not necessary.
22:15 eythian I can issue revocations for it though
22:18 dcook Makes sense
22:18 dcook I think I'm finally going to buy a yubikey :p
22:18 dcook If I don't use some overseas accounts, I think I get fined, so I may as well buy something useful
22:20 dcook wizzyrea: Any recommendations out of that list?
22:22 wizzyrea there isn't anything bad in it. :)
22:22 wizzyrea chocolate though never hurts.
22:22 wizzyrea (it's our best stuff, it's why we sent it!)
22:29 cdickinson okay, cool, took a while for the RNG to get into gear but done
22:30 dcook wizzyrea: Sweet. Thanks :)
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22:48 eythian yay, master builds again. New packages up.
22:49 dcook :D
23:13 dcook Nothing like customizing a MARC Bibliographic Framework to make you remember how many MARC tags there are
23:13 dcook It seems like there's a field for everything!
23:14 dcook Well, except for useful stuff of course.
23:14 dcook But you better believe there is an Awards Note
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