Time  Nick       Message
23:14 dcook      But you better believe there is an Awards Note
23:14 dcook      Well, except for useful stuff of course.
23:13 dcook      It seems like there's a field for everything!
23:13 dcook      Nothing like customizing a MARC Bibliographic Framework to make you remember how many MARC tags there are
22:49 dcook      :D
22:48 eythian    yay, master builds again. New packages up.
22:30 dcook      wizzyrea: Sweet. Thanks :)
22:29 cdickinson okay, cool, took a while for the RNG to get into gear but done
22:22 wizzyrea   (it's our best stuff, it's why we sent it!)
22:22 wizzyrea   chocolate though never hurts.
22:22 wizzyrea   there isn't anything bad in it. :)
22:20 dcook      wizzyrea: Any recommendations out of that list?
22:18 dcook      If I don't use some overseas accounts, I think I get fined, so I may as well buy something useful
22:18 dcook      I think I'm finally going to buy a yubikey :p
22:18 dcook      Makes sense
22:15 eythian    I can issue revocations for it though
22:15 eythian    my current one doesn't expire because it's in a yubikey and so it's not necessary.
22:15 wizzyrea   that's the spirit.
22:15 dcook      wizzyrea: I'm thinking maybe a long lunch is in order
22:14 * dcook    noticed eythian's expiry the other day when looking at his own keyring :p
22:13 wizzyrea   that's good, because it ends at 6pm :P
22:13 rangi      good point
22:13 eythian    I'd recommend having it for ~5 years, that way if you lose control of it, it'll stop being valid eventually
22:12 dcook      Heading to Melbourne tomorrow and I have at least 3 things on the to do list for this evening
22:12 eythian    you can also renew the expiry
22:12 dcook      Alas, I don't know how that's going to be possible :(
22:12 wizzyrea   ^.^
22:12 cdickinson Ah, okay
22:12 wizzyrea   ^ I expect you to get yourself some of those
22:12 dcook      O_O
22:12 wizzyrea   dcook: http://www.wellingtonnz.com/australia/wellington-whirlwind?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=wellingtonwhirlwind&utm_campaign=social_apr2015
22:11 rangi      its kinda good practice to expiry it every few years, but i leave my valid, and then create a revocation certificate, so i can revoke it and make a new one
22:10 cdickinson would it be alright if I let the key be valid indefinitely, or do I need to change it occasionally?
22:09 * cait     waves and heads off to bed
22:09 eythian    https://we.riseup.net/riseuplabs+paow/openpgp-best-practices <-- apparently RSA, but I don't think it matters overly
22:08 cdickinson Okay, cool
22:08 eythian    mine is RSA, but it's done in hardware.
22:08 eythian    I think whatever the default is is fine
22:08 rangi      eythian: do we like dsa or rsa these days?
22:07 rangi      id go for 4096
22:07 rangi      http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/how-to-create-your-own-gpg-key.html
22:07 cdickinson I'm Callum :P
22:07 cdickinson Hiya
22:07 rangi      <-- chris
22:07 rangi      hey cdickinson
21:29 wizzyrea   yowch.
21:28 cait       the hail decided to happen when we were outside on the way to lunch ... some o fit at laest
21:28 wizzyrea   note: Totally *not* complaining.
21:27 wizzyrea   yeah, it took a long time to get here, and now it's taking a long time to go
21:19 huginn     eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (10:00 AM NZDT on April 02, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
21:19 eythian    @wunder nzwn
21:19 eythian    heh. Our summer is being surprisingly extended. The occasional storm to mix it up, but mostly mild.
21:18 cait       today it was a mix of sun, rain and hail
21:18 cait       it means ' anything can happen'
21:18 cait       we got what we call 'april weather' here
21:18 cait       heh
21:17 eythian    yeah. Unfortunately the weather is good, so I'll feel slightly bad about sitting in playing games and watching movies.
21:16 cait       really looking forward to it
21:16 cait       same here
21:16 eythian    cait: 4-day weekend, yeah
21:11 cait       holiday on friday? :)
21:09 eythian    yay! virtual friday!
21:07 wahanui    kia ora, eythian
21:07 eythian    hi
20:54 misilot    thank you
20:53 cait       ReturnBeforeExpiry
20:53 cait       or force the loan period to shorten - stop at the expiry date
20:53 cait       it will either allow the due date to fall behind the expiry date
20:52 cait       there is a sys pref for the behaviour there
20:52 misilot    yes
20:52 cait       date expiry for the card?
20:52 cait       hm do you mean the exipration date on the patron account?
20:51 misilot    If the expiration date is before the hard due date or any due date, shorten the checkout to that date?
20:51 cait       np - we don't use it, but it should work :)
20:50 misilot    thank you
20:50 misilot    ah, ok thanks cait that makes sense
20:50 cait       the date limits the due date... when it would fall after, it still ends on this date
20:49 cait       it will calculate the due date regularly... as long as it's before that date
20:49 cait       that should do it
20:49 cait       I think if you set it to before
20:48 cait       did you notice the 3 settings on the pull down for the hard due date in the circulation conditions?
20:48 misilot    3.16
20:48 wahanui    which version of Koha are you using?
20:48 cait       misilot: which version of Koha?
20:41 misilot    answer without having to go edit some accounts and check out and checkin a bunch of items.
20:41 misilot    I know Hard Due Date exists, but is there a duedate setting that will only allow checkouts to happen before this date? We in the past had a hard due date (which seems to be a different idea in Koha). We usually set the max an item could be checked out to the end of the semester, and kept changing every semester. As well as they can't have a due date past their expiration date. We haven't hit the expiration date, but wanted to see if there was a simple
20:10 wizzyrea   nengard ^
20:10 wizzyrea   patron's branch
20:09 wizzyrea   my $branch_details = C4::Branch::GetBranchDetail($borrower->{branchcode});
20:08 wizzyrea   because that setting isn't per branch.
20:08 wizzyrea   er that may not be right it may be the kohaadmin
20:08 wizzyrea   afaict it's the branch email
19:19 nengard    is it the patron's branch it uses to pick an email to send to?
19:19 nengard    can anyone tell me for the manual what email address emailLibrarianWhenHoldIsPlaced uses?
17:47 khall      I feel this to be true, your milage may vary http://img.pandawhale.com/post-18529-Peter-Griffin-blinds-CSS-gif-I-lEO1.gif
17:18 barton     dang, what happened to owen??
17:18 huginn     barton: oleonard was last seen in #koha 4 weeks, 4 days, 23 hours, 23 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <oleonard> That's very strange squash. I'm sorry, I don't know what's going on.
17:18 barton     @seen oleonard
17:05 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13909 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , _debar_user_on_return doesn't honour finesCalendar
17:05 tcohen     :-D
17:05 tcohen     anyone, bug 13909 please?
17:02 gaetan_B   bye
16:17 huginn     New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13933: Fix t/DateUtils.t without DB <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=85a0f6a42f64227021986ee95a8b19e0eed5702d> / Bug 9580: DBRev 3.19.00.019 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c3c404a67b9b0faf88d3ee259dbf8c91ad401809> / Bug 9580: (QA followup) add a Coce syspref and fix options for Providers <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4ad
14:18 cait       library asking for a checkin slip... :(
14:13 huginn     04Bug 13938: critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Staging MARC records for import fails
14:13 khall      http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13938
14:12 Joubu      khall: I am sure eythian will tell you thank you :)
14:11 khall      Joubu: I can qa 13933
14:11 khall      will do!
14:11 Joubu      khall: don't forget to link the new one with 8970
14:10 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13933 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , t/DateUtils.t causes the build to break (from bug 13601)
14:10 Joubu      There is a blocker in the QA queue, see bug 13933
14:08 cait       ok, will send out an email to gather some ideas soonish
14:08 Joubu      anyway, I will try to do some QA next week
14:08 Joubu      cait: sounds good
14:06 khall      I don't have a plack environment to test on though
14:06 cait       Joubu: would friday 10th work?
14:06 khall      Joubu: yes, that works. I'll file a bug report and patch
14:05 Joubu      cait: yes, good idea
14:05 Joubu      khall: We will need to try with Plack
14:04 cait       i got a long weekend to tinker with some things
14:04 cait       how could we organize, like a bug squash? or put a list on the wiki for grabbing... google doc? open to any and all ideas :)
14:03 cait       hm this friday is a holiday here - maybe next?
14:03 khall      cait, sure! Fridays are always good for me
14:02 khall      I don't know what the implications are though
14:02 cait       khall, Joubu - as i have you around... should we try and do a qa sprint or something sometime soon?
14:02 khall      else { $dbh->commit(); } at line 159 on stage-marc-import.pl it would fix it
14:01 khall      to seems to me that if we just added:
14:00 Joubu      erk, too bad :-/
14:00 khall      this confirms it
13:59 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8970 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , MARC import gives error under Starman/Plack
13:59 khall      I was already beginning to suspect bug 8970 from the commit history
13:59 khall      Joubu: you were bang on, reverting 750a9ec97cbc44c6d1d8a6c595019cee7d96ef8e fixes it!
13:57 khall      one is production, one is test, I can try that
13:55 Joubu      But not a good idea on a production server :)
13:55 Joubu      It would be good to try to revert 750a9ec97cbc44c6d1d8a6c595019cee7d96ef8e just to know if it is the one to blame
13:55 khall      yes
13:55 Joubu      khall: the issue occurs on production servers I suppose?
13:54 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8970 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , MARC import gives error under Starman/Plack
13:54 Joubu      ha, it was bug 8970, but it was Plack related
13:53 khall      I've been using this file for years now, got it from cait
13:53 khall      but fails to commit if you don't
13:53 Joubu      It remembers me an issue with the size of the file
13:53 khall      and it works fine if you choose a matching rule
13:53 khall      on both servers
13:53 khall      yes, every time
13:53 Joubu      khall: Did you try to import exactly the same file?
13:51 khall      Joubu: no difference in the DBI or DBIC module versions
13:43 Joubu      tcohen: arg, so good luck :)
13:42 tcohen     Joubu: I'm in the middle of a DSpace disaster recovery
13:41 khall      interesting idea, I'll take a look!
13:41 khall      right, but it's usually on master and I just checked out v3.18.04
13:41 Joubu      khall: Did you compare DBI and DBIX::Class version?
13:41 Joubu      khall: I suppose your test server uses the same version?
13:39 khall      this seems like *serious* bug
13:38 khall      you can get around it by always choosing a matcher
13:37 khall      and yet it works just fine on my test server!
13:36 khall      it's happening because the AutoCommit isn't on and $dbh->commit() never gets called
13:36 khall      hey all, has anyone seen an issue with Koha 3.18.04 where you can no longer import marc records through the staging tool? I've seen this on two separate servers
13:33 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13894 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , SQLHelper replacement - C4::Members::Search - reserve.pl
13:33 Joubu      tcohen: and last comments on bug 13894
13:32 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13936 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Fix patrons search on using the checkout tab
13:32 Joubu      tcohen: bug 13936
13:31 tcohen     i didn't Joubu
13:30 tcohen     hi Joubu
13:30 Joubu      Have you seen the critical bug I have opened few hours ago?
13:29 Joubu      Hi tcohen
13:06 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13937 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, NEW , Add a 'primary status' field for items
13:06 khall      looking for feedback on bug 13937
12:31 tcohen     hi Joubu
12:30 huginn     tcohen: The operation succeeded.
12:30 tcohen     @later tell rangi yup, i don't think it is worth a forced git push at all
12:29 tcohen     morning
12:18 cait       enjoy!
12:18 cait       yeah, but we concentrate on the 'now' -- and now i am happy they are getting fixed :)
12:18 Joubu      lunch time, bbl
12:18 Joubu      too bad to have let them not fixed for so long
12:18 Joubu      a lot of these bugs have been quickly fixed :)
12:17 cait       your work no the old bugs is much appreciated!
12:16 cait       it's ok
12:16 Joubu      I don't have a quick and easy solution for this one, sorry
12:16 Joubu      yes... one day :)
12:16 cait       but... yeah
12:16 cait       i think it would be nice to clean all that up one day... so we use the <item> syntax everywhere as it's the most flexible
12:15 cait       you are commenting on really old bugs, hard to remember! :)
12:15 cait       i had a library asking i think, why not all of the displayed options worked
12:15 Joubu      yes, that's the problem
12:15 cait       but not sure we can fix that, as the notices are all in the circulation module
12:15 cait       Joubu: ah no, just it appears on the left side when you create a notice, when you can't use it
12:14 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9083 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , <<items.content>> in checkin/checkout notices does nothing
12:14 Joubu      ?
12:14 Joubu      cait: "it's not functional" on bug 9083, you meant even for overdue and adv notices
12:08 carmen     hello  Cait :D
12:08 cait       hi carmen :)
11:00 carmen     Good morning everyone
10:08 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13936 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Fix patrons search on using the checkout tab
10:08 Joubu      patch on bug 13936
09:54 Joubu      patrons search using the checkout tab is broken, I'm working on it
07:56 Joubu      Good morning #koha
07:49 nlegrand   Hiya #koha
07:48 atheia     morning cait!
07:47 cait       morning all
07:36 gaetan_B   hello
07:08 p_vdk      yop =
07:05 alex_a     bonjour
06:03 nihad      hi
04:19 huginn     eythian: The operation succeeded.
04:19 eythian    @later tell magnuse it's not really my baby at the moment, I think rangi was looking at it a while ago, unsure of the status
04:17 eythian    hi