Time Nick Message 23:14 dcook But you better believe there is an Awards Note 23:14 dcook Well, except for useful stuff of course. 23:13 dcook It seems like there's a field for everything! 23:13 dcook Nothing like customizing a MARC Bibliographic Framework to make you remember how many MARC tags there are 22:49 dcook :D 22:48 eythian yay, master builds again. New packages up. 22:30 dcook wizzyrea: Sweet. Thanks :) 22:29 cdickinson okay, cool, took a while for the RNG to get into gear but done 22:22 wizzyrea (it's our best stuff, it's why we sent it!) 22:22 wizzyrea chocolate though never hurts. 22:22 wizzyrea there isn't anything bad in it. :) 22:20 dcook wizzyrea: Any recommendations out of that list? 22:18 dcook If I don't use some overseas accounts, I think I get fined, so I may as well buy something useful 22:18 dcook I think I'm finally going to buy a yubikey :p 22:18 dcook Makes sense 22:15 eythian I can issue revocations for it though 22:15 eythian my current one doesn't expire because it's in a yubikey and so it's not necessary. 22:15 wizzyrea that's the spirit. 22:15 dcook wizzyrea: I'm thinking maybe a long lunch is in order 22:14 * dcook noticed eythian's expiry the other day when looking at his own keyring :p 22:13 wizzyrea that's good, because it ends at 6pm :P 22:13 rangi good point 22:13 eythian I'd recommend having it for ~5 years, that way if you lose control of it, it'll stop being valid eventually 22:12 dcook Heading to Melbourne tomorrow and I have at least 3 things on the to do list for this evening 22:12 eythian you can also renew the expiry 22:12 dcook Alas, I don't know how that's going to be possible :( 22:12 wizzyrea ^.^ 22:12 cdickinson Ah, okay 22:12 wizzyrea ^ I expect you to get yourself some of those 22:12 dcook O_O 22:12 wizzyrea dcook: http://www.wellingtonnz.com/australia/wellington-whirlwind?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=wellingtonwhirlwind&utm_campaign=social_apr2015 22:11 rangi its kinda good practice to expiry it every few years, but i leave my valid, and then create a revocation certificate, so i can revoke it and make a new one 22:10 cdickinson would it be alright if I let the key be valid indefinitely, or do I need to change it occasionally? 22:09 * cait waves and heads off to bed 22:09 eythian https://we.riseup.net/riseuplabs+paow/openpgp-best-practices <-- apparently RSA, but I don't think it matters overly 22:08 cdickinson Okay, cool 22:08 eythian mine is RSA, but it's done in hardware. 22:08 eythian I think whatever the default is is fine 22:08 rangi eythian: do we like dsa or rsa these days? 22:07 rangi id go for 4096 22:07 rangi http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/how-to-create-your-own-gpg-key.html 22:07 cdickinson I'm Callum :P 22:07 cdickinson Hiya 22:07 rangi <-- chris 22:07 rangi hey cdickinson 21:29 wizzyrea yowch. 21:28 cait the hail decided to happen when we were outside on the way to lunch ... some o fit at laest 21:28 wizzyrea note: Totally *not* complaining. 21:27 wizzyrea yeah, it took a long time to get here, and now it's taking a long time to go 21:19 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (10:00 AM NZDT on April 02, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). 21:19 eythian @wunder nzwn 21:19 eythian heh. Our summer is being surprisingly extended. The occasional storm to mix it up, but mostly mild. 21:18 cait today it was a mix of sun, rain and hail 21:18 cait it means ' anything can happen' 21:18 cait we got what we call 'april weather' here 21:18 cait heh 21:17 eythian yeah. Unfortunately the weather is good, so I'll feel slightly bad about sitting in playing games and watching movies. 21:16 cait really looking forward to it 21:16 cait same here 21:16 eythian cait: 4-day weekend, yeah 21:11 cait holiday on friday? :) 21:09 eythian yay! virtual friday! 21:07 wahanui kia ora, eythian 21:07 eythian hi 20:54 misilot thank you 20:53 cait ReturnBeforeExpiry 20:53 cait or force the loan period to shorten - stop at the expiry date 20:53 cait it will either allow the due date to fall behind the expiry date 20:52 cait there is a sys pref for the behaviour there 20:52 misilot yes 20:52 cait date expiry for the card? 20:52 cait hm do you mean the exipration date on the patron account? 20:51 misilot If the expiration date is before the hard due date or any due date, shorten the checkout to that date? 20:51 cait np - we don't use it, but it should work :) 20:50 misilot thank you 20:50 misilot ah, ok thanks cait that makes sense 20:50 cait the date limits the due date... when it would fall after, it still ends on this date 20:49 cait it will calculate the due date regularly... as long as it's before that date 20:49 cait that should do it 20:49 cait I think if you set it to before 20:48 cait did you notice the 3 settings on the pull down for the hard due date in the circulation conditions? 20:48 misilot 3.16 20:48 wahanui which version of Koha are you using? 20:48 cait misilot: which version of Koha? 20:41 misilot answer without having to go edit some accounts and check out and checkin a bunch of items. 20:41 misilot I know Hard Due Date exists, but is there a duedate setting that will only allow checkouts to happen before this date? We in the past had a hard due date (which seems to be a different idea in Koha). We usually set the max an item could be checked out to the end of the semester, and kept changing every semester. As well as they can't have a due date past their expiration date. We haven't hit the expiration date, but wanted to see if there was a simple 20:10 wizzyrea nengard ^ 20:10 wizzyrea patron's branch 20:09 wizzyrea my $branch_details = C4::Branch::GetBranchDetail($borrower->{branchcode}); 20:08 wizzyrea because that setting isn't per branch. 20:08 wizzyrea er that may not be right it may be the kohaadmin 20:08 wizzyrea afaict it's the branch email 19:19 nengard is it the patron's branch it uses to pick an email to send to? 19:19 nengard can anyone tell me for the manual what email address emailLibrarianWhenHoldIsPlaced uses? 17:47 khall I feel this to be true, your milage may vary http://img.pandawhale.com/post-18529-Peter-Griffin-blinds-CSS-gif-I-lEO1.gif 17:18 barton dang, what happened to owen?? 17:18 huginn barton: oleonard was last seen in #koha 4 weeks, 4 days, 23 hours, 23 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <oleonard> That's very strange squash. I'm sorry, I don't know what's going on. 17:18 barton @seen oleonard 17:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13909 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , _debar_user_on_return doesn't honour finesCalendar 17:05 tcohen :-D 17:05 tcohen anyone, bug 13909 please? 17:02 gaetan_B bye 16:17 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13933: Fix t/DateUtils.t without DB <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=85a0f6a42f64227021986ee95a8b19e0eed5702d> / Bug 9580: DBRev 3.19.00.019 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c3c404a67b9b0faf88d3ee259dbf8c91ad401809> / Bug 9580: (QA followup) add a Coce syspref and fix options for Providers <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4ad 14:18 cait library asking for a checkin slip... :( 14:13 huginn 04Bug 13938: critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Staging MARC records for import fails 14:13 khall http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13938 14:12 Joubu khall: I am sure eythian will tell you thank you :) 14:11 khall Joubu: I can qa 13933 14:11 khall will do! 14:11 Joubu khall: don't forget to link the new one with 8970 14:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13933 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , t/DateUtils.t causes the build to break (from bug 13601) 14:10 Joubu There is a blocker in the QA queue, see bug 13933 14:08 cait ok, will send out an email to gather some ideas soonish 14:08 Joubu anyway, I will try to do some QA next week 14:08 Joubu cait: sounds good 14:06 khall I don't have a plack environment to test on though 14:06 cait Joubu: would friday 10th work? 14:06 khall Joubu: yes, that works. I'll file a bug report and patch 14:05 Joubu cait: yes, good idea 14:05 Joubu khall: We will need to try with Plack 14:04 cait i got a long weekend to tinker with some things 14:04 cait how could we organize, like a bug squash? or put a list on the wiki for grabbing... google doc? open to any and all ideas :) 14:03 cait hm this friday is a holiday here - maybe next? 14:03 khall cait, sure! Fridays are always good for me 14:02 khall I don't know what the implications are though 14:02 cait khall, Joubu - as i have you around... should we try and do a qa sprint or something sometime soon? 14:02 khall else { $dbh->commit(); } at line 159 on stage-marc-import.pl it would fix it 14:01 khall to seems to me that if we just added: 14:00 Joubu erk, too bad :-/ 14:00 khall this confirms it 13:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8970 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , MARC import gives error under Starman/Plack 13:59 khall I was already beginning to suspect bug 8970 from the commit history 13:59 khall Joubu: you were bang on, reverting 750a9ec97cbc44c6d1d8a6c595019cee7d96ef8e fixes it! 13:57 khall one is production, one is test, I can try that 13:55 Joubu But not a good idea on a production server :) 13:55 Joubu It would be good to try to revert 750a9ec97cbc44c6d1d8a6c595019cee7d96ef8e just to know if it is the one to blame 13:55 khall yes 13:55 Joubu khall: the issue occurs on production servers I suppose? 13:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8970 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , MARC import gives error under Starman/Plack 13:54 Joubu ha, it was bug 8970, but it was Plack related 13:53 khall I've been using this file for years now, got it from cait 13:53 khall but fails to commit if you don't 13:53 Joubu It remembers me an issue with the size of the file 13:53 khall and it works fine if you choose a matching rule 13:53 khall on both servers 13:53 khall yes, every time 13:53 Joubu khall: Did you try to import exactly the same file? 13:51 khall Joubu: no difference in the DBI or DBIC module versions 13:43 Joubu tcohen: arg, so good luck :) 13:42 tcohen Joubu: I'm in the middle of a DSpace disaster recovery 13:41 khall interesting idea, I'll take a look! 13:41 khall right, but it's usually on master and I just checked out v3.18.04 13:41 Joubu khall: Did you compare DBI and DBIX::Class version? 13:41 Joubu khall: I suppose your test server uses the same version? 13:39 khall this seems like *serious* bug 13:38 khall you can get around it by always choosing a matcher 13:37 khall and yet it works just fine on my test server! 13:36 khall it's happening because the AutoCommit isn't on and $dbh->commit() never gets called 13:36 khall hey all, has anyone seen an issue with Koha 3.18.04 where you can no longer import marc records through the staging tool? I've seen this on two separate servers 13:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13894 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , SQLHelper replacement - C4::Members::Search - reserve.pl 13:33 Joubu tcohen: and last comments on bug 13894 13:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13936 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Fix patrons search on using the checkout tab 13:32 Joubu tcohen: bug 13936 13:31 tcohen i didn't Joubu 13:30 tcohen hi Joubu 13:30 Joubu Have you seen the critical bug I have opened few hours ago? 13:29 Joubu Hi tcohen 13:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13937 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, NEW , Add a 'primary status' field for items 13:06 khall looking for feedback on bug 13937 12:31 tcohen hi Joubu 12:30 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 12:30 tcohen @later tell rangi yup, i don't think it is worth a forced git push at all 12:29 tcohen morning 12:18 cait enjoy! 12:18 cait yeah, but we concentrate on the 'now' -- and now i am happy they are getting fixed :) 12:18 Joubu lunch time, bbl 12:18 Joubu too bad to have let them not fixed for so long 12:18 Joubu a lot of these bugs have been quickly fixed :) 12:17 cait your work no the old bugs is much appreciated! 12:16 cait it's ok 12:16 Joubu I don't have a quick and easy solution for this one, sorry 12:16 Joubu yes... one day :) 12:16 cait but... yeah 12:16 cait i think it would be nice to clean all that up one day... so we use the <item> syntax everywhere as it's the most flexible 12:15 cait you are commenting on really old bugs, hard to remember! :) 12:15 cait i had a library asking i think, why not all of the displayed options worked 12:15 Joubu yes, that's the problem 12:15 cait but not sure we can fix that, as the notices are all in the circulation module 12:15 cait Joubu: ah no, just it appears on the left side when you create a notice, when you can't use it 12:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9083 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , <<items.content>> in checkin/checkout notices does nothing 12:14 Joubu ? 12:14 Joubu cait: "it's not functional" on bug 9083, you meant even for overdue and adv notices 12:08 carmen hello Cait :D 12:08 cait hi carmen :) 11:00 carmen Good morning everyone 10:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13936 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Fix patrons search on using the checkout tab 10:08 Joubu patch on bug 13936 09:54 Joubu patrons search using the checkout tab is broken, I'm working on it 07:56 Joubu Good morning #koha 07:49 nlegrand Hiya #koha 07:48 atheia morning cait! 07:47 cait morning all 07:36 gaetan_B hello 07:08 p_vdk yop = 07:05 alex_a bonjour 06:03 nihad hi 04:19 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 04:19 eythian @later tell magnuse it's not really my baby at the moment, I think rangi was looking at it a while ago, unsure of the status 04:17 eythian hi