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dcook |
Kudos to all the translator folk... |
| 00:39 |
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dcook |
I still don't understand it all, and I don't know if I want to... |
| 00:40 |
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eythian |
yeah, it's still mostly mysterious for me at the moment too. I thin I'm OK with that. |
| 00:40 |
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* eythian |
starts building 3.16.09 |
| 00:41 |
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dcook |
Agreed. So long as it just works... |
| 00:43 |
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dcook |
I had some text translated which I did not expect to be translated... |
| 00:43 |
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dcook |
Which makes me think that problems could arise in weird situations |
| 00:44 |
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dcook |
Although maybe those situations wouldn't happen |
| 00:45 |
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dcook |
For instance... "Read" could be translated in a lot of ways... but if it's just on its own... it would probably be translated as being in the past tense... |
| 00:45 |
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dcook |
And most msgid strings have more context than that anyway |
| 00:45 |
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eythian |
yes |
| 00:45 |
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eythian |
translations are hard like that |
| 00:46 |
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eythian |
also, languages that have singular, plural, and ternary. |
| 00:46 |
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dcook |
That would be tough |
| 00:47 |
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dcook |
It seems like it works well overall... at least in the OPAC |
| 00:47 |
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dcook |
Oh yeah.. I was going to see if I could break the staff client.. |
| 00:48 |
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dcook |
I always think that we've made lots of template customizations, but we must not really.. |
| 00:49 |
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dcook |
Or I'm just using an unhelpful database.. |
| 00:56 |
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dcook |
Hmm, the stuff that really gets me are the "%s" in the msgid and msgstr |
| 00:56 |
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dcook |
I think they're bits of TT code? |
| 00:57 |
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eythian |
no, they're printf-alike |
| 00:57 |
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dcook |
Ahh, right |
| 00:57 |
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dcook |
But what are they printing in there? :S |
| 00:57 |
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eythian |
they're substitutes for some value |
| 00:57 |
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dcook |
Hmm |
| 00:57 |
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dcook |
I want to say that the values are TT code though |
| 00:57 |
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eythian |
I think sometimes that might be TT, but I don't think it's always the case. |
| 00:58 |
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dcook |
I was fixing up a PO file the other day and it was mostly TT I think |
| 00:58 |
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dcook |
Ahhh |
| 00:58 |
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dcook |
Yeah, that makes sense |
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eythian |
I think it's so you can do "there are [% number %] widgets" sort of things |
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dcook |
Yeah, that's how I've seen it |
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dcook |
Although I've also seen it for [% IF (blah) %] and [% END %] blocks |
| 00:59 |
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eythian |
sure, same deal |
| 00:59 |
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dcook |
Which I suppose makes sense as it's all in some tag after all |
| 00:59 |
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dcook |
But then if you haven't updated your custom english template... |
| 01:00 |
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dcook |
I would think that the PO file could potentially be off and everything could explode |
| 01:00 |
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dcook |
Well, maybe not everything |
| 01:00 |
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dcook |
Just whatever is wrong |
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eythian |
it doesn't seem to happen |
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dcook |
I know, right? |
| 01:00 |
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eythian |
it feels fragile but doesn't seem to be |
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dcook |
Exactly! |
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* dcook |
is so lost |
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dcook |
haha |
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dcook |
Maybe it's also that the PO files are misleading |
| 01:01 |
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pastebot |
"dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "first example" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/18 |
| 01:02 |
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dcook |
So #. is an "extracted comment", but I don't see what it means.. |
| 01:03 |
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eythian |
it puts it into %s I think. |
| 01:03 |
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eythian |
though, I'm not totally sure why it extracts it at all |
| 01:03 |
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dcook |
But that wouldn't make sense in this case :S |
| 01:03 |
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dcook |
Well, maybe it makes sense in context |
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eythian |
it would perhaps make sense in the context of where it goes |
| 01:03 |
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dcook |
Yeah, I don't get why it extracts it either |
| 01:04 |
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dcook |
Yep, it indeed makes sense in context |
| 01:04 |
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eythian |
it might just be programmed to extract all the TT code |
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dcook |
Sort of |
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dcook |
I was thinking that, but I'm not sure |
| 01:05 |
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dcook |
I think it might just get bits and pieces of TT code |
| 01:06 |
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dcook |
I suppose if a person messed up the template... |
| 01:06 |
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dcook |
Rather than breaking, it probably just wouldn't translate that msgid |
| 01:08 |
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dcook |
I suppose I had a bad experience with a horribly broken Arabic template once, so I'm always wary of PO files... |
| 01:08 |
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dcook |
Well, horribly broken Arabic PO file... not a template |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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mtompset |
Have a great day, #koha. |
| 04:27 |
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dcook |
corelist? |
| 04:27 |
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dcook |
core? |
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wahanui |
core is simple. Plug in a URL and a metadataPrefix, and harvest all the records. |
| 04:27 |
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dcook |
core? |
| 04:27 |
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wahanui |
rumour has it core is simple. Plug in a URL and a metadataPrefix, and harvest all the records |
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dcook |
core is also corelist Carp |
| 04:27 |
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wahanui |
okay, dcook. |
| 04:27 |
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dcook |
core? |
| 04:27 |
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wahanui |
core is probably simple. Plug in a URL and a metadataPrefix, and harvest all the records. |
| 04:27 |
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dcook |
core? |
| 04:27 |
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wahanui |
core is simple. Plug in a URL and a metadataPrefix, and harvest all the records. |
| 04:27 |
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dcook |
core? |
| 04:27 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... core is corelist Carp |
| 04:28 |
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dcook |
Meh, close enough |
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eythian |
no wahanui, core is corelist Carp |
| 04:28 |
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wahanui |
okay, eythian. |
| 04:28 |
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eythian |
(though, what is corelist Carp?) |
| 04:28 |
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dcook |
Just an example |
| 04:29 |
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eythian |
oh hey, useful |
| 04:29 |
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dcook |
I know, right? |
| 04:29 |
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dcook |
I found that a few months ago but totally forgot about it until now |
| 04:35 |
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eythian |
@later tell cait I think I fixed your issue with authority biblio counts differing from the number of results. |
| 04:35 |
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huginn |
eythian: The operation succeeded. |
| 04:35 |
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eythian |
@later tell cait it seems that the link was doing the wrong thing, but zebra was OK with that. So I made my code see the wrong thing and turn it into the right thing :) |
| 04:35 |
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huginn |
eythian: The operation succeeded. |
| 04:39 |
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eythian |
(for the record, it was doing an=123 when I think it should have been an:123) |
| 04:42 |
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dcook |
Hmm, an=123 is CCL |
| 04:42 |
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dcook |
So if that's getting to Zebra, that should be OK |
| 04:42 |
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dcook |
an:123 gets translated to an=123 before it hits Zebra |
| 04:42 |
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dcook |
Otherwise kaboom :/ |
| 04:43 |
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eythian |
ah right |
| 04:43 |
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eythian |
well I need things with : so I just s/=/:/ |
| 04:43 |
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dcook |
Ahh |
| 04:44 |
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dcook |
Got to love syntatical differences :D |
| 04:44 |
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eythian |
(at the moment I'm using a mildly hacky way to do regular searches where it munges things into a lucene style search string. In the long run I want to properly parse them into an elasticsearch query tree.) |
| 04:44 |
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eythian |
but this way is much easier to get good results. |
| 04:46 |
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dcook |
If someone got the QueryParser working, the elasticsearch query tree could probably be added as a plugin |
| 04:46 |
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eythian |
it'll also deal with free-form queries that users might type in. |
| 04:46 |
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dcook |
That's true |
| 04:46 |
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eythian |
yeah, something like that would work. |
| 04:46 |
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dcook |
That would be one advantage against the QueryParser.. |
| 04:47 |
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dcook |
Best of luck with ES :) |
| 04:47 |
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eythian |
well, if koha had its own query language, that could be parsed and turned into a zebra query, or an ES query, etc. |
| 04:47 |
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dcook |
That would be nice |
| 04:47 |
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dcook |
I want to work on that, but there's no support :/ |
| 04:47 |
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eythian |
at the moment we're pretty close to zebra's various languages, so I'm munging that into ES. |
| 04:47 |
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dcook |
Can only do what you can do atm, me thinks |
| 04:48 |
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eythian |
where things are more constrained (like authority searching), I'm generating ES searches directly. |
| 04:48 |
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dcook |
Yeah, I've been thinking a bit about that |
| 04:49 |
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dcook |
Of having "structured" searches unparsed |
| 04:49 |
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dcook |
And just parsing free-form searches |
| 04:49 |
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eythian |
yeah, it wouldn't be too bad. |
| 04:50 |
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eythian |
I expect that a simple ((field1:value1 or field2:value2) and field3:value3) type search in the search box wouldn't be too hard to define and parse. |
| 04:50 |
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eythian |
I think I handle this at the moment mostly by ignoring it :) |
| 04:50 |
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eythian |
though I do do some field name conversion. |
| 04:51 |
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eythian |
...and a lot of tidying as there are some things that'll cause ES to explode, like having {..} in search terms. |
| 04:51 |
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dcook |
Never a dull moment |
| 04:52 |
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eythian |
quite :) I think my next step is to get staff client searching working. |
| 04:53 |
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eythian |
this would mean you could theoretically run a koha without zebra totally. |
| 04:53 |
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dcook |
:o |
| 04:53 |
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dcook |
That would be neat! |
| 04:53 |
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eythian |
yeah, it would |
| 04:54 |
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eythian |
I haven't tested it properly, but also switching the syspref should mean that zebra still works. |
| 04:55 |
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eythian |
I've bolted on a compatibility layer to C4::Search and C4::AuthoritiesMarc, or at least the searching and query building parts of them. |
| 04:55 |
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dcook |
I think I might have seen that part |
| 04:55 |
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dcook |
I also like the metaphor |
| 04:55 |
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dcook |
Well, more so the imagery |
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eythian |
heh |
| 04:56 |
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eythian |
it's very simple as the API is quite close to what the existing code does so I could avoid too many changes to how the existing stuff worked. |
| 04:57 |
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eythian |
then I have a bunch of _compat functions that go-between that and ES. |
| 04:59 |
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eythian |
ok, time to go. |
| 04:59 |
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eythian |
later |
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* eythian |
& |
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dcook |
laters |
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cait |
@wunder konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 13.5°C (7:21 AM CEST on March 31, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
| 05:26 |
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dcook |
hey cait :) |
| 05:27 |
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cait |
hi eythian |
| 05:27 |
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cait |
argh |
| 05:27 |
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cait |
hi dcook |
| 05:27 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 05:27 |
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dcook |
I'm sure eythian says hey too |
| 05:27 |
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cait |
eythian left me a note, got me confused :) |
| 05:57 |
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dcook |
"Devel::GlobalDestruction::XS" |
| 05:57 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 06:04 |
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cait |
very stormy outside |
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cait |
not looking forward walking to work |
| 06:05 |
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dcook |
:( |
| 06:05 |
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dcook |
Hopefully it's not due to Devel::GlobalDestruction::XS |
| 06:05 |
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cait |
quite sure we can't blame you for the storm :) |
| 06:05 |
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dcook |
Climate change! |
| 06:05 |
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wahanui |
climate change is already way out of control, but I take my point wizzyrea |
| 06:06 |
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dcook |
I'm sure we're not helping with that :p |
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drojf |
morning #koha |
| 06:21 |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
| 06:21 |
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huginn |
drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 1.0°C (7:50 AM CEST on March 31, 2015). Conditions: Snow. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.18 in 988 hPa (Falling). |
| 06:21 |
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* dcook |
waves |
| 06:21 |
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dcook |
I think that's my cue to head home! |
| 06:21 |
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drojf |
snow. yay. :( |
| 06:21 |
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dcook |
Almost summer! |
| 06:22 |
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dcook |
Autumn is starting here :( |
| 06:22 |
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drojf |
so you should take that snow :D |
| 06:24 |
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dcook |
Hehe. I'm sure a lot of the people in Sydney would love the snow! |
| 06:24 |
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dcook |
They're fools of course. You can keep it ;) |
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drojf |
lol |
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dcook |
I haven't seen snow since... November 2013. |
| 06:24 |
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dcook |
Maybe I'll get a trip back to Canada in 2016 or 2017... |
| 06:24 |
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drojf |
i could live with that |
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cait |
you probably saw enough snow for a lifetime |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 06:25 |
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dcook |
I have seen a lot of snow O_O |
| 06:25 |
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dcook |
drojf: It's not bad |
| 06:25 |
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drojf |
no i like snow too, actually. just not now |
| 06:25 |
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drojf |
;) |
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dcook |
hehe |
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dcook |
Yeah, I like snow. I just don't want it when it's inconvenient. |
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dcook |
All right. Better head home. |
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dcook |
Night all |
| 06:29 |
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wahanui |
goodnight dcook. You'll be back. |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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drojf |
hei magnuse |
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magnuse |
moin drojf |
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matts |
hi! |
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* magnuse |
looks quizzically at bug 7187 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7187 enhancement, P4, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED , Prioritize cover image sources such as Amazon, Google and add fail over i.e. if first source fails, go to next |
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* magnuse |
reboots |
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magnuse |
ssd++ |
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magnuse |
@later tell rangi any news on "Bug 7187 - Prioritize cover image sources such as Amazon, Google and add fail over"? |
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huginn |
magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
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magnuse |
@later tell eythian any news on "Bug 7187 - Prioritize cover image sources such as Amazon, Google and add fail over"? |
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huginn |
magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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wahanui |
hey, alex_a |
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t4nk177 |
hola |
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t4nk177 |
al |
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t4nk177 |
alguien puede ayudarme con la configuracion del sip2? |
| 07:46 |
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t4nk177 |
h |
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t4nk177 |
hi, i need help with sip2 |
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magnuse |
t4nk177: have you seen http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]SIP2_server_setup ? |
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atheia |
Morning kohatians! |
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nlegrand |
Hey #koah |
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Joubu |
Hi |
| 08:01 |
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Joubu |
bug 13933 (blocker) has a patch to test :) |
| 08:01 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13933 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , t/DateUtils.t causes the build to break (from bug 13601) |
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fridolin |
good morning |
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nlegrand |
Joubu: ok for me |
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mtj |
hey #koha... |
| 08:15 |
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wahanui |
#koha is all kinds of good drugs today |
| 08:15 |
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mtj |
this is a nice read.. -> http://tech.slashdot.org/story[…]boring-technology |
| 08:19 |
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mtj |
oops, i should have pasted the actual article |
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mtj |
http://mcfunley.com/choose-boring-technology |
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magnuse |
it's oh so quiet... |
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drojf |
indeed |
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ashimema_ |
yup |
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Joubu |
Is it a feature not to have constraint on auth_subfield_structure.authtypecode? |
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Joubu |
There is no FK referencing auth_types.authtypecode |
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Joubu |
same for marc_subfield_structure... |
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khall |
mornin all! |
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kivilahtio |
morning khall |
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kivilahtio |
no news is good news? |
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khall |
mornin kivilahtio! |
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magnuse |
hiya khall and kivilahtio |
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khall |
I'd say so : ) |
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magnuse |
Joubu: sounds like a bug to me |
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khall |
mornin magnuse! |
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magnuse |
but i don't know if there might be reasons for it |
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Joubu |
magnuse: ok thanks, patch is on bug 8480 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8480 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , auth_subfield_structure is not cleared when deleting an authority type |
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magnuse |
hiya tcohen and meliss |
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tcohen |
hola magnuse |
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meliss |
good afternoon magnuse |
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magnuse |
have fun #koha! |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13869: Wrong capitalization of 'Save Report' in guided reports <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9f8b4c2857583217f> / Bug 13531 - Follow up <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b211048056e11f090> / Bug 13531: QA follow up <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dc162a5f59b988e8e |
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talljoy |
morning koha! |
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talljoy |
i’m looking for a link to the video for the Kohacon2014 video “What is Koha?†anyone have it handy? |
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tcohen |
"Koha, a community" on youtube |
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talljoy |
Thanks Tomas! that was easy. |
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tcohen |
u r welcome |
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talljoy |
it is bookmarked on my other computer and i forgot to grab it before I left |
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tcohen |
=D |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13841 - Returns via backdating or SIP2 can create new fines with an amount outsta... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ef9226e134ce4b35b> / Bug 13841 - Unit Test <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3d4ca809468f57ffe> / Bug 7391: Return to cart after adding items to a list <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koh |
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tcohen |
can anyone take a look at 13909 please? |
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tcohen |
we need it |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13859: Item search improvements - publication date and title formatting <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]73d2cae9d51eb08c5> / Bug 13898: Remove CANDELETEUSER code <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]800056ced2fcc8418> / Bug 13686: Change wording <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ommitdiff;h=d7c56 |
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Hey all, still unable to figure out how to get koha-run-backups to output anywehere but /var/spool - no matter what I put for --output it still goes there :/ |
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hkh |
Hallo, after reading in the koha manual the chapter on tool patroncard creator I thought it might be nice to have some more explanation on batches (3.1.6.4) |
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hkh |
I am stuck now trying to prepare some text in a suitable format. |
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hkh |
I tried XMLnotepad on a downloaded koha-3.18-en-manual.xml. I tried to open same file with LibreOffice writer |
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hkh |
As of now I have no better idea than copying some text from a html-view of the manual and paste it into the writer. |
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hkh |
------ any advice? Newbie is in need of some guidance! |
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drojf |
hkh: what is your question, what are you trying to do? do you want to edit the manual? |
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hkh |
i want to suggest some text additions in the manual |
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drojf |
the manual is on git, like the koha source code. http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ocs.git;a=summary |
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drojf |
there is more info on the process here http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_the_Koha_Manual |
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drojf |
have you worked with git before? |
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hkh |
this where I found the text for the manual (koha-3.18-) en-manual.xml. I can view the xml text with XMLnotepad but I have no tool to see e. g. a html transform... |
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hkh |
I have not worked with git, I have no local git installation, I have some previous experience with vc |
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hkh |
also proprietary pretty expensive oXygen is not available for me nor do I have working experience with such atool. If the manual was a TeX docoment I would be pleased to work on it. |
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drojf |
you don't need oxygen to edit an xml file. i'm not sure why that nonfree software product is featured there so prominently. and as you can edit a tex file in any editor, you should be able to do it with the xml file. i don't know how the html and pdf versions are generated though. nengard_lunch should know |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13549: Add cardnumber to overdue circulation report overdue.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0d71488ee2a43e3fe> / Bug 13852 - Manage C4::VirtualShelves in C4::Auth for performance <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]600c65401288b6f2f> / Bug 4277: Display the correct budget planning after saving <http://git.koha- |
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hkh |
That page is not really helping me. I have no access to oXygen. The XMLnotepad is clearly showing the .xml text but is not able to make a transform unless I specify a suitable schema. But I have no idea where to find it. oxygen may have that information buildt in. |
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tcohen1 |
@seen cait |
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huginn |
tcohen1: cait was last seen in #koha 10 hours, 58 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <cait> you probably saw enough snow for a lifetime |
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drojf |
hkh: to edit the xml file (and send a patch with enhancements) you do not need to transform anything. if you're trying to do something else then i think i misunderstood. maybe wait until nengard_lunch is back from lunch, she's the documentation manager |
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hkh |
drojf: you ar right ther is no need for a transform. Beeing not familiar with the system i have to find the adequate annotations and I need a tool that shows me the result for try and error... |
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drojf |
hkh: i see. if there is needed more than the dtd linked within the xml file, nengard_lunch should know |
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wnickc |
anyone else getting an error if they check in a non-existent barcode on master? |
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wnickc |
or even some other barcodes |
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tcohen1 |
wnickc: current master? |
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wnickc |
Yup |
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wnickc |
clears on 3.18 |
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wnickc |
got it on my VM and a devbox |
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tcohen1 |
you mean on checkout? |
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tcohen1 |
ah, check in |
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tcohen1 |
I read wrong |
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tcohen1 |
sorry |
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wnickc |
Can't bless non-reference value at .../ItemType.pm line 64 |
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tcohen1 |
yup, saw it |
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tcohen1 |
we need to find someone to blame wnickc |
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wnickc |
wasn't me :-) |
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tcohen1 |
you were the first to spot it :-P |
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tcohen1 |
first suspect |
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ashimema_ |
;) |
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wnickc |
to be fair, nengard spotted it testing bug 13885 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13885 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Failed QA , Cataloging search header should include more options |
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wnickc |
and she's at lunch, always makes for a good scapegoat |
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tcohen1 |
is Joubu's fault |
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tcohen1 |
well, all of us that are suposed to have tested his patch |
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tcohen |
Joubu: 7431f8cfe29e330e2232b0df591afc4d923b0a52 |
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* tcohen |
loves git bisect |
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tcohen |
wnickc: could you or nengard fill a bug please? and refer to that^^^^ hash? |
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wnickc |
I will |
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nengard |
what's up |
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tcohen |
its your fault nengard |
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nengard |
what'sd I do?? heheh |
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tcohen |
heh |
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tcohen |
you spotted a bug |
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nengard |
oh - i do that a lot |
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nengard |
i'm a magnet for them |
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nengard |
hehe |
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tcohen |
that's why we like you |
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tcohen |
well, one of the many reasons |
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nengard |
hkh you were looking to contribute to the manual? |
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nengard |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_the_Koha_Manual |
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nengard |
thanks tcohen |
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wnickc |
bug 13934 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13934 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Check in fails on master "Can't bless non-reference at .../ItemType.pm Line 64" |
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wnickc |
nengard++ thanks for testing |
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hkh |
nengard: yes but as a newbie i am running in problems how to do it right - see previous conversation mostly with deojf |
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tcohen |
hi cait! |
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cait |
hi tcohen :) |
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ashimema_ |
busy tonight tcohen.. |
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tcohen |
hi ashimema |
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nengard |
hkh the html transformation of the manual happens overnight on the server - you wont' be able to see that in an editor |
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* cait |
waves at ashimema and nengard |
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nengard |
so all you need is to edit the XML and send a patch or email me your suggestions and I'll make them in your name |
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* nengard |
waves back |
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tcohen |
ashimema: fair enough |
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tcohen |
that's the attitude! |
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hkh |
nengard: I could work editing the .xml but beeing not familiar with the annotations I need a tool that show the effect of my efforts (try and error). AN alternative might be that I start my work by copying the relevant part of the manual from the http transform into my LibrOffice writer and send you the revised part in .odt (changes marked). Is that viable? |
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nengard |
That works for me - the problem is that open source XML tools haven't been able to handle the manual size that's why I had to get a non profit license for oxygen in the end |
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nengard |
I tried a bunch of them and none worked for the size of the manual |
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tcohen |
is there a patch to make DSpace deployment prettier? |
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hkh |
nengard: thanks. I'll proceed along that line. I was very uncertain, I might have missed the right way to do it. |
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nengard |
nope |
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nengard |
you're on the right track! :) |
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nengard |
thanks in advance |
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bag |
morning peeps |
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tcohen |
hi bag! |
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bag |
hi tcohen |
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cait |
morning bag |
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bag |
afternoon cait |
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cait |
Joubu++ |
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cait |
#fixing tons of old bugs |
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nengard |
cat++ |
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nengard |
or cait++ |
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nengard |
hehe |
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nengard |
oops |
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ashimema |
hi again tcohen |
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ashimema |
nice work with all the pushing :) |
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magnuse |
yeah tcohen++ |
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tcohen |
bye #koha |
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rangi |
morning |
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rangi |
i added a section to the patches pushed on the dashboard |
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rangi |
http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ |
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wahanui |
http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ are the better stats to optimise |
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rangi |
time in hours and person days spent |
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cait |
hm? |
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cait |
not sure i can see it |
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nengard |
cool - i see it - how did you calculate that though? |
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nengard |
cait it's tha last two rows of the patches pushed section |
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carmen |
BONJOUR RANGI!! |
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rangi |
hey carmen :) |
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nengard |
shhh - no screaming in #koha |
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nengard |
:) |
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rangi |
nengard: 6 hours per patch written, 4 hours per signoff |
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carmen |
:D |
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carmen |
sorry |
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rangi |
its purely an average .. its probably a bunch higher |
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cait |
ah, thx for the pointer! |
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rangi |
cait: pushed the follow up |
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cait |
thx - noticed because it was one of mine... was not sure if it was by accident or on purpose |
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nengard |
cait have you met carmen? |
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cait |
hm I think i haven't yet |
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carmen |
hello cait :) |
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cait |
hi carmen |
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nengard |
carmen meet cait cait meet carmen :) |
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nengard |
carmen is the new trainer at bywater but also my long time friend |
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nengard |
she met rangi when he helped me move in to my house ages ago :) |
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nengard |
I think ... that was when right? |
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rangi |
yup |
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carmen |
correct |
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nengard |
Germany and does a ton of awesome work for Koha |
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nengard |
I think you two will get along |
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nengard |
well i love everyone in koha-land |
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nengard |
so maybe i'm just biased |
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carmen |
I have great things about cait |
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carmen |
:) |
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nengard |
missing a word there |
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cait |
nice to meet you carmen |
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carmen |
lol i see that now … i mean that I have heard great things |
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carmen |
nice to meet you as well cait . I think I may have embarrassed myself so i will stop typing now lol |
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cait |
i read typo, no problem :) |
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rangi |
@later tell magnuse still being tested/refined patches submitted soon |
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huginn |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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rangi |
@later tell tcohen i did a git commit --amend --author= but too late now i think for master |
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huginn |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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rangi |
hmm ghost tweet |
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wizzyrea |
you know I cant read your ghost tweets. |
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rangi |
oh its back |
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rangi |
https://twitter.com/ByWaterSol[…]83015380077002752 |
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wizzyrea |
that made me snerk :) |
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rangi |
@marc 866 |
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huginn |
rangi: [Described in full under field 866 in the MARC 21 Concise Format for Holdings Data.] (Repeatable) [] |
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rangi |
https://twitter.com/imbadatlif[…]82900249179656192 |
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dcook |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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dcook |
And somehow I've got my Debian VM stuck thinking that it's set to an Asian language rather than English |
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dcook |
Well, I guess I can learn the ideograms for things like "Keyboard" and "Bluetooth" now... |
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dcook |
"Unspecified [ANSI_X3.4-1968]" |
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dcook |
No idea how it got to that from English... |
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dcook |
Apparently "ANSI_X3.4-1968" is the canonical name for ASCII. That's neat. |
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dcook |
Hmm, looks like it was Chinese. Bizarre. |
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wizzyrea |
TIL. |
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dcook |
I had resigned myself to having a Debian VM in Chinese, but... I guess it's OK having it in English again |
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dcook |
Even the Chinese for "Files" was a bit intimidating... |
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