Time  Nick       Message
00:39 dcook      Kudos to all the translator folk...
00:39 dcook      I still don't understand it all, and I don't know if I want to...
00:40 eythian    yeah, it's still mostly mysterious for me at the moment too. I thin I'm OK with that.
00:40 * eythian  starts building 3.16.09
00:41 dcook      Agreed. So long as it just works...
00:43 dcook      I had some text translated which I did not expect to be translated...
00:43 dcook      Which makes me think that problems could arise in weird situations
00:44 dcook      Although maybe those situations wouldn't happen
00:45 dcook      For instance... "Read" could be translated in a lot of ways... but if it's just on its own... it would probably be translated as being in the past tense...
00:45 dcook      And most msgid strings have more context than that anyway
00:45 eythian    yes
00:45 eythian    translations are hard like that
00:46 eythian    also, languages that have singular, plural, and ternary.
00:46 dcook      That would be tough
00:47 dcook      It seems like it works well overall... at least in the OPAC
00:47 dcook      Oh yeah.. I was going to see if I could break the staff client..
00:48 dcook      I always think that we've made lots of template customizations, but we must not really..
00:49 dcook      Or I'm just using an unhelpful database..
00:56 dcook      Hmm, the stuff that really gets me are the "%s" in the msgid and msgstr
00:56 dcook      I think they're bits of TT code?
00:57 eythian    no, they're printf-alike
00:57 dcook      Ahh, right
00:57 dcook      But what are they printing in there? :S
00:57 eythian    they're substitutes for some value
00:57 dcook      Hmm
00:57 dcook      I want to say that the values are TT code though
00:57 eythian    I think sometimes that might be TT, but I don't think it's always the case.
00:58 dcook      I was fixing up a PO file the other day and it was mostly TT I think
00:58 dcook      Ahhh
00:58 dcook      Yeah, that makes sense
00:58 eythian    I think it's so you can do "there are [% number %] widgets" sort of things
00:58 dcook      Yeah, that's how I've seen it
00:58 dcook      Although I've also seen it for [% IF (blah) %] and [% END %] blocks
00:59 eythian    sure, same deal
00:59 dcook      Which I suppose makes sense as it's all in some tag after all
00:59 dcook      But then if you haven't updated your custom english template...
01:00 dcook      I would think that the PO file could potentially be off and everything could explode
01:00 dcook      Well, maybe not everything
01:00 dcook      Just whatever is wrong
01:00 eythian    it doesn't seem to happen
01:00 dcook      I know, right?
01:00 eythian    it feels fragile but doesn't seem to be
01:00 dcook      Exactly!
01:00 * dcook    is so lost
01:00 dcook      haha
01:01 dcook      Maybe it's also that the PO files are misleading
01:01 pastebot   "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "first example" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/18
01:02 dcook      So #. is an "extracted comment", but I don't see what it means..
01:03 eythian    it puts it into %s I think.
01:03 eythian    though, I'm not totally sure why it extracts it at all
01:03 dcook      But that wouldn't make sense in this case :S
01:03 dcook      Well, maybe it makes sense in context
01:03 eythian    it would perhaps make sense in the context of where it goes
01:03 dcook      Yeah, I don't get why it extracts it either
01:04 dcook      Yep, it indeed makes sense in context
01:04 eythian    it might just be programmed to extract all the TT code
01:04 dcook      Sort of
01:05 dcook      I was thinking that, but I'm not sure
01:05 dcook      I think it might just get bits and pieces of TT code
01:06 dcook      I suppose if a person messed up the template...
01:06 dcook      Rather than breaking, it probably just wouldn't translate that msgid
01:08 dcook      I suppose I had a bad experience with a horribly broken Arabic template once, so I'm always wary of PO files...
01:08 dcook      Well, horribly broken Arabic PO file... not a template
03:19 mtompset   Greetings, #koha.
04:02 mtompset   Have a great day, #koha.
04:27 dcook      corelist?
04:27 dcook      core?
04:27 wahanui    core is simple. Plug in a URL and a metadataPrefix, and harvest all the records.
04:27 dcook      core?
04:27 wahanui    rumour has it core is simple. Plug in a URL and a metadataPrefix, and harvest all the records
04:27 dcook      core is also corelist Carp
04:27 wahanui    okay, dcook.
04:27 dcook      core?
04:27 wahanui    core is probably simple. Plug in a URL and a metadataPrefix, and harvest all the records.
04:27 dcook      core?
04:27 wahanui    core is simple. Plug in a URL and a metadataPrefix, and harvest all the records.
04:27 dcook      core?
04:27 wahanui    hmmm... core is corelist Carp
04:28 dcook      Meh, close enough
04:28 eythian    no wahanui, core is corelist Carp
04:28 wahanui    okay, eythian.
04:28 eythian    (though, what is corelist Carp?)
04:28 dcook      Just an example
04:29 eythian    oh hey, useful
04:29 dcook      I know, right?
04:29 dcook      I found that a few months ago but totally forgot about it until now
04:35 eythian    @later tell cait I think I fixed your issue with authority biblio counts differing from the number of results.
04:35 huginn     eythian: The operation succeeded.
04:35 eythian    @later tell cait it seems that the link was doing the wrong thing, but zebra was OK with that. So I made my code see the wrong thing and turn it into the right thing :)
04:35 huginn     eythian: The operation succeeded.
04:39 eythian    (for the record, it was doing an=123 when I think it should have been an:123)
04:42 dcook      Hmm, an=123 is CCL
04:42 dcook      So if that's getting to Zebra, that should be OK
04:42 dcook      an:123 gets translated to an=123 before it hits Zebra
04:42 dcook      Otherwise kaboom :/
04:43 eythian    ah right
04:43 eythian    well I need things with : so I just s/=/:/
04:43 dcook      Ahh
04:44 dcook      Got to love syntatical differences :D
04:44 eythian    (at the moment I'm using a mildly hacky way to do regular searches where it munges things into a lucene style search string. In the long run I want to properly parse them into an elasticsearch query tree.)
04:44 eythian    but this way is much easier to get good results.
04:46 dcook      If someone got the QueryParser working, the elasticsearch query tree could probably be added as a plugin
04:46 eythian    it'll also deal with free-form queries that users might type in.
04:46 dcook      That's true
04:46 eythian    yeah, something like that would work.
04:46 dcook      That would be one advantage against the QueryParser..
04:47 dcook      Best of luck with ES :)
04:47 eythian    well, if koha had its own query language, that could be parsed and turned into a zebra query, or an ES query, etc.
04:47 dcook      That would be nice
04:47 dcook      I want to work on that, but there's no support :/
04:47 eythian    at the moment we're pretty close to zebra's various languages, so I'm munging that into ES.
04:47 dcook      Can only do what you can do atm, me thinks
04:48 eythian    where things are more constrained (like authority searching), I'm generating ES searches directly.
04:48 dcook      Yeah, I've been thinking a bit about that
04:49 dcook      Of having "structured" searches unparsed
04:49 dcook      And just parsing free-form searches
04:49 eythian    yeah, it wouldn't be too bad.
04:50 eythian    I expect that a simple ((field1:value1 or field2:value2) and field3:value3) type search in the search box wouldn't be too hard to define and parse.
04:50 eythian    I think I handle this at the moment mostly by ignoring it :)
04:50 eythian    though I do do some field name conversion.
04:51 eythian    ...and a lot of tidying as there are some things that'll cause ES to explode, like having {..} in search terms.
04:51 dcook      Never a dull moment
04:52 eythian    quite :) I think my next step is to get staff client searching working.
04:53 eythian    this would mean you could theoretically run a koha without zebra totally.
04:53 dcook      :o
04:53 dcook      That would be neat!
04:53 eythian    yeah, it would
04:54 eythian    I haven't tested it properly, but also switching the syspref should mean that zebra still works.
04:55 eythian    I've bolted on a compatibility layer to C4::Search and C4::AuthoritiesMarc, or at least the searching and query building parts of them.
04:55 dcook      I think I might have seen that part
04:55 dcook      I also like the metaphor
04:55 dcook      Well, more so the imagery
04:56 eythian    heh
04:56 eythian    it's very simple as the API is quite close to what the existing code does so I could avoid too many changes to how the existing stuff worked.
04:57 eythian    then I have a bunch of _compat functions that go-between that and ES.
04:59 eythian    ok, time to go.
04:59 eythian    later
04:59 * eythian  &
05:00 dcook      laters
05:21 cait       @wunder konstanz
05:22 huginn     cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 13.5°C (7:21 AM CEST on March 31, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
05:26 dcook      hey cait :)
05:27 cait       hi eythian
05:27 cait       argh
05:27 cait       hi dcook
05:27 dcook      hehe
05:27 dcook      I'm sure eythian says hey too
05:27 cait       eythian left me a note, got me confused :)
05:57 dcook      "Devel::GlobalDestruction::XS"
05:57 dcook      hehe
06:04 cait       very stormy outside
06:04 cait       not looking forward walking to work
06:05 dcook      :(
06:05 dcook      Hopefully it's not due to Devel::GlobalDestruction::XS
06:05 cait       quite sure we can't blame you for the storm :)
06:05 dcook      Climate change!
06:05 wahanui    climate change is already way out of control, but I take my point wizzyrea
06:06 dcook      I'm sure we're not helping with that :p
06:21 drojf      morning #koha
06:21 drojf      @wunder berlin, germany
06:21 huginn     drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 1.0°C (7:50 AM CEST on March 31, 2015). Conditions: Snow. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.18 in 988 hPa (Falling).
06:21 * dcook    waves
06:21 dcook      I think that's my cue to head home!
06:21 drojf      snow. yay. :(
06:21 dcook      Almost summer!
06:22 dcook      Autumn is starting here :(
06:22 drojf      so you should take that snow :D
06:24 dcook      Hehe. I'm sure a lot of the people in Sydney would love the snow!
06:24 dcook      They're fools of course. You can keep it ;)
06:24 drojf      lol
06:24 dcook      I haven't seen snow since... November 2013.
06:24 dcook      Maybe I'll get a trip back to Canada in 2016 or 2017...
06:24 drojf      i could live with that
06:24 cait       you probably saw enough snow for a lifetime
06:24 dcook      hehe
06:25 dcook      I have seen a lot of snow O_O
06:25 dcook      drojf: It's not bad
06:25 drojf      no i like snow too, actually. just not now
06:25 drojf      ;)
06:25 dcook      hehe
06:25 dcook      Yeah, I like snow. I just don't want it when it's inconvenient.
06:29 dcook      All right. Better head home.
06:29 dcook      Night all
06:29 wahanui    goodnight dcook. You'll be back.
06:40 * magnuse  waves
06:40 drojf      hei magnuse
06:41 magnuse    moin drojf
06:42 matts      hi!
06:42 * magnuse  looks quizzically at bug 7187
06:42 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7187 enhancement, P4, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED , Prioritize cover image sources such as Amazon, Google and add fail over i.e. if first source fails, go to next
06:42 * magnuse  reboots
06:44 magnuse    ssd++
06:47 magnuse    @later tell rangi any news on "Bug 7187 - Prioritize cover image sources such as Amazon, Google and add fail over"?
06:47 huginn     magnuse: The operation succeeded.
06:47 magnuse    @later tell eythian any news on "Bug 7187 - Prioritize cover image sources such as Amazon, Google and add fail over"?
06:47 huginn     magnuse: The operation succeeded.
07:01 alex_a     bonjour
07:01 wahanui    hey, alex_a
07:44 t4nk177    hola
07:45 t4nk177    al
07:45 t4nk177    alguien puede ayudarme con la configuracion del sip2?
07:46 t4nk177    h
07:46 t4nk177    hi, i need help with sip2
07:52 magnuse    t4nk177: have you seen http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_SIP2_server_setup ?
07:55 atheia     Morning kohatians!
07:57 nlegrand   Hey #koah
08:01 Joubu      Hi
08:01 Joubu      bug 13933 (blocker) has a patch to test :)
08:01 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13933 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , t/DateUtils.t causes the build to break (from bug 13601)
08:04 fridolin   good morning
08:08 nlegrand   Joubu: ok for me
08:15 mtj        hey #koha...
08:15 wahanui    #koha is all kinds of good drugs today
08:15 mtj        this is a nice read.. -> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/03/30/2245223/why-you-should-choose-boring-technology
08:19 mtj        oops, i should have pasted the actual article
08:19 mtj        http://mcfunley.com/choose-boring-technology
11:10 magnuse    it's oh so quiet...
11:12 drojf      indeed
11:14 ashimema_  yup
11:21 Joubu      Is it a feature not to have constraint on auth_subfield_structure.authtypecode?
11:22 Joubu      There is no FK referencing auth_types.authtypecode
11:22 Joubu      same for marc_subfield_structure...
11:36 khall      mornin all!
11:40 kivilahtio morning khall
11:40 kivilahtio no news is good news?
11:40 khall      mornin kivilahtio!
11:40 magnuse    hiya khall and kivilahtio
11:40 khall      I'd say so : )
11:41 magnuse    Joubu: sounds like a bug to me
11:41 khall      mornin magnuse!
11:41 magnuse    but i don't know if there might be reasons for it
11:42 Joubu      magnuse: ok thanks, patch is on bug 8480
11:42 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8480 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , auth_subfield_structure is not cleared when deleting an authority type
12:01 magnuse    hiya tcohen and meliss
12:01 tcohen     hola magnuse
12:01 meliss     good afternoon magnuse
13:09 magnuse    have fun #koha!
14:05 huginn     New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13869: Wrong capitalization of 'Save Report' in guided reports <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=89a3ef5c5a1658bead838789f8b4c2857583217f> / Bug 13531 - Follow up <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=482f2f31a8d4b13ee5bbc3fb211048056e11f090> / Bug 13531: QA follow up <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=002b79c200f03adc162a5f59b988e8e
14:08 talljoy    morning koha!
14:09 talljoy    i’m looking for a link to the video for the Kohacon2014 video “What is Koha?”  anyone have it handy?
14:09 tcohen     "Koha, a community" on youtube
14:09 talljoy    Thanks Tomas!  that was easy.
14:10 tcohen     u r welcome
14:10 talljoy    it is bookmarked on my other computer and i forgot to grab it before I left
14:12 tcohen     =D
14:37 huginn     New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13841 - Returns via backdating or SIP2 can create new fines with an amount outsta... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=faab00b88a155bdd7d5de35ef9226e134ce4b35b> / Bug 13841 - Unit Test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=589fd84107ed76ed50397f63d4ca809468f57ffe> / Bug 7391: Return to cart after adding items to a list <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koh
14:40 tcohen     can anyone take a look at 13909 please?
14:40 tcohen     we need it
14:57 huginn     New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13859: Item search improvements - publication date and title formatting <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b78824cce4f770c7db4f2e73d2cae9d51eb08c5> / Bug 13898: Remove CANDELETEUSER code <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2bc307c99816b7100c50a41800056ced2fcc8418> / Bug 13686: Change wording <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d7c56
15:25 Krixvar    Hey all, still unable to figure out how to get koha-run-backups to output anywehere but /var/spool - no matter what I put for --output it still goes there :/
16:45 hkh        Hallo, after reading in the koha manual the chapter on tool patroncard creator I thought it might be nice to have some more explanation on batches (3.1.6.4)
16:46 hkh        I am stuck now trying to prepare some text in a suitable format.
16:47 hkh        I tried XMLnotepad on a downloaded koha-3.18-en-manual.xml. I tried to open same file with LibreOffice writer
16:49 hkh        As of now I have no better idea than copying some text from a html-view of the manual and paste it into the writer.
16:50 hkh        ------ any advice? Newbie is in need of some guidance!
16:59 drojf      hkh: what is your question, what are you trying to do? do you want to edit the manual?
17:04 hkh        i want to suggest some text additions in the manual
17:08 drojf      the manual is on git, like the koha source code. http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=summary
17:09 drojf      there is more info on the process here http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Editing_the_Koha_Manual
17:09 drojf      have you worked with git before?
17:10 hkh        this where I found the text for the manual (koha-3.18-) en-manual.xml. I can view the xml text with XMLnotepad but I have no tool to see e. g. a html transform...
17:11 hkh        I have not worked with git, I have no local git installation, I have some previous experience with vc
17:13 hkh        also proprietary pretty expensive oXygen is not available for me nor do I have working experience with such atool. If the manual was a TeX docoment I would be pleased to work on it.
17:21 drojf      you don't need oxygen to edit an xml file. i'm not sure why that nonfree software product is featured there so prominently. and as you can edit a tex file in any editor, you should be able to do it with the xml file. i don't know how the html and pdf versions are generated though. nengard_lunch should know
17:21 huginn     New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13549: Add cardnumber to overdue circulation report overdue.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f37c05c283e0f91f08dc31a0d71488ee2a43e3fe> / Bug 13852 - Manage C4::VirtualShelves in C4::Auth for performance <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f14963605924eacbbaf965c600c65401288b6f2f> / Bug 4277: Display the correct budget planning after saving <http://git.koha-
17:23 hkh        That page is not really helping me. I have no access to oXygen. The XMLnotepad is clearly showing the .xml text but is not able to make a transform unless I specify a suitable schema. But I have no idea where to find it. oxygen may have that information buildt in.
17:23 tcohen1    @seen cait
17:23 huginn     tcohen1: cait was last seen in #koha 10 hours, 58 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <cait> you probably saw enough snow for a lifetime
17:33 drojf      hkh: to edit the xml file (and send a patch with enhancements) you do not need to transform anything. if you're trying to do something else then i think i misunderstood. maybe wait until nengard_lunch is back from lunch, she's the documentation manager
17:35 hkh        drojf: you ar right ther is no need for a transform. Beeing not familiar with the system i have to find the adequate annotations and I need a tool that shows me the result for try and error...
17:41 drojf      hkh: i see. if there is needed more than the dtd linked within the xml file, nengard_lunch should know
17:52 wnickc     anyone else getting an error if they check in a non-existent barcode on master?
17:52 wnickc     or even some other barcodes
17:56 tcohen1    wnickc: current master?
17:56 wnickc     Yup
17:56 wnickc     clears on 3.18
17:56 wnickc     got it on my VM and a devbox
17:56 tcohen1    you mean on checkout?
17:57 tcohen1    ah, check in
17:57 tcohen1    I read wrong
17:57 tcohen1    sorry
17:58 wnickc     Can't bless non-reference value at .../ItemType.pm line 64
17:58 tcohen1    yup, saw it
17:59 tcohen1    we need to find someone to blame wnickc
18:00 wnickc     wasn't me :-)
18:01 tcohen1    you were the first to spot it :-P
18:01 tcohen1    first suspect
18:01 ashimema_  ;)
18:02 wnickc     to be fair, nengard spotted it testing bug 13885
18:02 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13885 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Failed QA , Cataloging search header should include more options
18:03 wnickc     and she's at lunch, always makes for a good scapegoat
18:04 tcohen1    is Joubu's fault
18:04 tcohen1    well, all of us that are suposed to have tested his patch
18:05 tcohen     Joubu: 7431f8cfe29e330e2232b0df591afc4d923b0a52
18:05 * tcohen   loves git bisect
18:06 tcohen     wnickc: could you or nengard fill a bug please? and refer to that^^^^ hash?
18:06 wnickc     I will
18:06 nengard    what's up
18:07 tcohen     its your fault nengard
18:07 nengard    what'sd I do?? heheh
18:07 tcohen     heh
18:07 tcohen     you spotted a bug
18:07 nengard    oh - i do that a lot
18:07 nengard    i'm a magnet for them
18:07 nengard    hehe
18:07 tcohen     that's why we like you
18:08 tcohen     well, one of the many reasons
18:08 nengard    hkh you were looking to contribute to the manual?
18:08 nengard    http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Editing_the_Koha_Manual
18:08 nengard    thanks tcohen
18:09 wnickc     bug 13934
18:09 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13934 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Check in fails on master "Can't bless non-reference at .../ItemType.pm Line 64"
18:11 wnickc     nengard++ thanks for testing
18:12 hkh        nengard: yes but as a newbie i am running in problems how to do it right - see previous conversation mostly with deojf
18:12 tcohen     hi cait!
18:13 cait       hi tcohen :)
18:22 ashimema_  busy tonight tcohen..
18:23 tcohen     hi ashimema
18:23 nengard    hkh the html transformation of the manual happens overnight on the server - you wont' be able to see that in an editor
18:23 * cait     waves at ashimema and nengard
18:23 nengard    so all you need is to edit the XML and send a patch or email me your suggestions and I'll make them in your name
18:23 * nengard  waves back
18:26 tcohen     ashimema: fair enough
18:26 tcohen     that's the attitude!
18:27 hkh        nengard: I could work editing the .xml but beeing not familiar with the annotations I need a tool that show the effect of my efforts (try and error). AN alternative might be that I start my work by copying the relevant part of the manual from the http transform into my LibrOffice writer and send you the revised part in .odt (changes marked). Is that viable?
18:28 nengard    That works for me - the problem is that open source XML tools haven't been able to handle the manual size that's why I had to get a non profit license for oxygen in the end
18:28 nengard    I tried a bunch of them and none worked for the size of the manual
18:30 tcohen     is there a patch to make DSpace deployment prettier?
18:31 hkh        nengard: thanks. I'll proceed along that line. I was very uncertain, I might have missed the right way to do it.
18:31 nengard    nope
18:31 nengard    you're on the right track! :)
18:31 nengard    thanks in advance
18:46 bag        morning peeps
18:46 tcohen     hi bag!
18:46 bag        hi tcohen
18:47 cait       morning bag
18:47 bag        afternoon cait
18:49 cait       Joubu++
18:50 cait       #fixing tons of old bugs
18:57 nengard    cat++
18:57 nengard    or cait++
18:57 nengard    hehe
18:57 nengard    oops
18:58 ashimema   hi again tcohen
18:59 ashimema   nice work with all the pushing :)
19:09 magnuse    yeah tcohen++
19:29 tcohen     bye #koha
20:18 rangi      morning
20:18 rangi      i added a section to the patches pushed on the dashboard
20:18 rangi      http://dashboard.koha-community.org/
20:19 wahanui    http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ are the better stats to optimise
20:19 rangi      time in hours and person days spent
20:24 cait       hm?
20:24 cait       not sure i can see it
20:25 nengard    cool - i see it - how did you calculate that though?
20:25 nengard    cait it's tha last two rows of the patches pushed section
20:26 carmen     BONJOUR RANGI!!
20:26 rangi      hey carmen :)
20:26 nengard    shhh - no screaming in #koha
20:26 nengard    :)
20:26 rangi      nengard: 6 hours per patch written, 4 hours per signoff
20:26 carmen     :D
20:26 carmen     sorry
20:26 rangi      its purely an average .. its probably a bunch higher
20:27 cait       ah, thx for the pointer!
20:27 rangi      cait: pushed the follow up
20:27 cait       thx - noticed because it was one of mine... was not sure if it was by accident or on purpose
20:28 nengard    cait have you met carmen?
20:28 cait       hm I think i haven't yet
20:28 carmen     hello cait :)
20:28 cait       hi carmen
20:28 nengard    carmen meet cait cait meet carmen :)
20:28 nengard    carmen is the new trainer at bywater but also my long time friend
20:28 nengard    she met rangi when he helped me move in to my house ages ago :)
20:29 nengard    I think ... that was when right?
20:29 rangi      yup
20:29 carmen     correct
20:29 nengard    Germany and does a ton of awesome work for Koha
20:29 nengard    I think you two will get along
20:29 nengard    well i love everyone in koha-land
20:30 nengard    so maybe i'm just biased
20:30 carmen     I have great things about cait
20:30 carmen     :)
20:30 nengard    missing a word there
20:30 cait       nice to meet you carmen
20:31 carmen     lol i see that now … i mean that I have heard great things
20:31 carmen     nice to meet you as well cait . I think I may have embarrassed myself so i will stop typing now lol
20:32 cait       i read typo, no problem :)
20:43 rangi      @later tell magnuse still being tested/refined patches submitted soon
20:43 huginn     rangi: The operation succeeded.
20:44 rangi      @later tell tcohen i did a git commit --amend --author= but too late now i think for master
20:44 huginn     rangi: The operation succeeded.
21:21 rangi      hmm ghost tweet
21:21 wizzyrea   you know I cant read your ghost tweets.
21:21 rangi      oh its back
21:21 rangi      https://twitter.com/ByWaterSolution/status/583015380077002752
21:22 wizzyrea   that made me snerk :)
21:49 rangi      @marc 866
21:49 huginn     rangi: [Described in full under field 866 in the MARC 21 Concise Format for Holdings Data.] (Repeatable) []
22:27 rangi      https://twitter.com/imbadatlife/status/582900249179656192
22:27 dcook      hehe
22:32 wizzyrea   lol
22:54 dcook      And somehow I've got my Debian VM stuck thinking that it's set to an Asian language rather than English
22:55 dcook      Well, I guess I can learn the ideograms for things like "Keyboard" and "Bluetooth" now...
22:56 dcook      "Unspecified [ANSI_X3.4-1968]"
22:56 dcook      No idea how it got to that from English...
22:58 dcook      Apparently "ANSI_X3.4-1968" is the canonical name for ASCII. That's neat.
23:02 dcook      Hmm, looks like it was Chinese. Bizarre.
23:12 wizzyrea   TIL.
23:14 dcook      I had resigned myself to having a Debian VM in Chinese, but... I guess it's OK having it in English again
23:14 dcook      Even the Chinese for "Files" was a bit intimidating...