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tcohen |
night everyone, havea nice weekend |
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drojf |
morning |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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drojf |
even the bot has a weekend |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: human bots dont |
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drojf |
kivilahtio: true ;) |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: So what are you working on? |
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drojf |
some kind of evaluation survey thing for my webinar participants, and preparing something to show to a library interested in koha next week |
| 11:49 |
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drojf |
and you? |
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kivilahtio |
Rewritin the Overdue smodule |
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kivilahtio |
it is a huge load of work :) |
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drojf |
that sounds like a lot of fun ;) |
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kivilahtio |
it is |
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kivilahtio |
very interesting |
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kivilahtio |
I am learning writing Acceptance tests using Cucumber |
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kivilahtio |
https://metacpan.org/pod/Test:[…]:Manual::Tutorial |
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kivilahtio |
I thought I will just rewrite the finding, queueuing and sending parts, but I have to rewrite everything to be able to make test cases |
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kivilahtio |
it is just so shitty to put behaviour into the controller scripts, like overdues.pl |
| 11:51 |
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kivilahtio |
but my Koha::Object and Koha::Cahce -driven new module will be so cool |
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kivilahtio |
I hope somebody will like it |
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drojf |
i bet they will :) |
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kivilahtio |
but it is very challenging and interesting to rite something to be future -extendable and easily maintainable along the Koha's master |
| 11:53 |
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kivilahtio |
currentl I am shopping for engagement rings :) |
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kivilahtio |
found a good pair! |
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drojf |
oh. congratulations |
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kivilahtio |
thank you :) |
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drojf |
i want to take a deeper look into translation stuff when i have more time |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: I have some good ideas |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: we should make it possible to translate using the web interface. Like when you are normally using Koha, you could enter into a translation mode where all html would be injected iwth translation identifiers, then we could make changes directly. |
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drojf |
i'd like to hear them :) |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: It would be sooo much better than the current system |
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drojf |
yes i have thozught about that too. that would be very cool |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: Most of the time is spent on looking at the correct transaltion entry in the .po-files |
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kivilahtio |
I donät think it will bee too difficult |
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drojf |
i want disambiguation options |
| 11:56 |
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drojf |
it's not really nice at the moment |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: also, the .po-files should be more spearated. The same translation keys are shared between many different views and that causes a lot of confusion, especialyl when Koha doesnät respect a uniform terminology for business objects |
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kivilahtio |
we could easily have one .po-file for each template file |
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kivilahtio |
then we would never have to bother with "City" having been translated differently in different contexts |
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kivilahtio |
We could use some kind of a translation bufferin the DB where whe buffer trnaslation changes. and then the misc/translator.pl will take the DB buffer and put it into .po-files and update the temnplates |
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kivilahtio |
I think the translator script already extracts the translateable bits, so we can use the same script to analyse template files before printing them to the user and put trnaslation identifiers as element attributes |
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drojf |
there is some kind of context thing too. msgctxt, we just don't use it. i think pootle understands it |
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kivilahtio |
If there was a context-thing, it would be super better |
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kivilahtio |
then we could have everything in one file |
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kivilahtio |
which is a good idea, if we can separate contexts |
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drojf |
i have to see how translations are actually prepared nowadays |
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kivilahtio |
translation tools could more easily auto-translate new strings |
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kivilahtio |
I think we could have a super awesome translation interface in Koha in no time :) |
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drojf |
we would have to see if separating contexts by module or something would be enough. it's hard to giess with ~40 different languages ;) |
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drojf |
*guess |
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kivilahtio |
it would be so awesome to just be able to CRUD directly to the interface |
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kivilahtio |
well atleast the U-part :) |
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kivilahtio |
you could have the original english text as tooltip |
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Oak |
@later tell cait http://www.buzzfeed.com/alanwh[…]me-a-wall-of-meme#.cbGvVMEvnl |
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kivilahtio |
gotta start my workday |
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kivilahtio |
nice talking! |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: I hope your presentation goes well. |
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drojf |
i'm not sure how many would use it. it would be cool to check and make quick changes, but i think most larger translation parts are done directly in the po files without web interface, as it takes much longer there |
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drojf |
thanks. goof luck with weekend workday too :) |
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drojf |
*good |
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drojf |
(and the rings ;) |
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Oak |
rings? getting maried? |
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kivilahtio |
Oak: kinda :) |
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kivilahtio |
http://luxbox.fi/beat-of-love-cr-001-5mm.html |
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Oak |
kinda :-D |
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kivilahtio |
I guess I donät have a choice anymore |
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kivilahtio |
its not what you think :) |
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Oak |
heh. congratulations. |
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kivilahtio |
Oak: it is mostly scary |
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Oak |
but totally worth it. |
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kivilahtio |
Oak: I have the feeling :) |
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Oak |
:) |
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kivilahtio |
many people have recommended it for me |
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kivilahtio |
so it must be something quite good |
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Oak |
you'll have to work on it. it's not like getting an icecream. |
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Oak |
but yes. i hear it's the way to go. it's good. first couple of years may be tough. |
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Oak |
"tough" is not the word. |
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Oak |
it'll just need time adjusting to one another. |
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drojf |
caffeine something something *mumbles* |
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Oak |
time for a nap |
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kivilahtio |
thanks for the tip Oak |
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mveron |
Hi #koha |
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wnickc |
Hi |
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mveron |
Hi wnickc |
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wnickc |
hi mveron |
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kivilahtio |
bye #koha |
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bag |
bonjour |
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drojf |
hi bag |
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bag |
hi |
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