IRC log for #koha, 2015-03-03

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00:00 rangi what does it do when they don't .. pick the first?
00:00 mtompset I got the second.
00:01 rangi yeah probably have to fail it in that case
00:01 mtompset Actually, this patch doesn't log out of Google.
00:01 rangi it's the OAuth one?
00:01 mtompset Yes.
00:01 rangi basically it should be a consistent thing
00:01 rangi and then a big note if you switch on the syspref or something
00:02 rangi it'd be a good feature to have i think
00:03 mtompset Is there an API way to log out of Google?
00:03 mtompset it wouldn't be hard to add, if there is.
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00:17 wizzyrea koha doesn't look for alternate spellings - or is that "did you mean"
00:19 wizzyrea no, not did you mean
00:19 rangi fuzzy
00:19 rangi it does, but it's a bit too overzealous
00:19 eythian fuzzy would probably get some, but it'd lower their rankings
00:19 rangi yeah
00:28 wizzyrea we are talking color/colour
00:29 rangi fuzzy would get that
00:29 rangi but it will mess up the rest of the searching
00:29 wizzyrea heh
00:29 rangi it might be ok for them, they only have a few thousand titles eh?
00:30 wizzyrea yeah.
00:30 wizzyrea it's already on tho.
00:30 eythian fuzzy isn't the best solution to that. Some thesaurus type system would be, I don't know if zebra can do that, but I wouldn't be surprised if it can.
00:30 eythian wahanui: dcook
00:30 wahanui dcook is probably the designated masochist
00:30 eythian wahanui: dcook
00:30 wahanui hmmm... dcook is the Last Saskatchewan Pirate
00:30 eythian wahanui: dcook
00:30 wahanui dcook is, like, the Last Saskatchewan Pirate
00:30 eythian wahanui: dcook
00:30 wahanui dcook is, like, a zebra expert now
00:30 eythian there
00:30 wizzyrea hah
00:30 rangi hmm in that case, all you can really do is switch on the authority see also thing
00:31 wizzyrea yeahh
00:31 rangi 2 secs
00:32 wizzyrea designated masochist *and* the zebra expert - something about these seems to go together.
00:32 eythian yep
00:33 wizzyrea isn't there a bug with stemming/fuzzy
00:33 wizzyrea relevance is out the window?
00:33 wizzyrea or something.
00:33 wahanui something is sketchy
00:33 wizzyrea yes. exactly.
00:34 eythian it's autotruncation I think
00:34 rangi its all of them
00:35 rangi they all make relevance work differntly or not at all
00:35 wizzyrea yay?
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01:09 Francesca hey rangi do I hit try ubuntu or install or ubuntu? its install right?
01:10 rangi install yep
01:10 Francesca hmm can't seem to move my mouse inside the vm
01:10 rangi try clicking inside it
01:11 Francesca it works outside of the install window
01:11 rangi theres some trick with virtualbox to make it grab the mouse then release it again
01:11 Francesca but when I try to hit install the mouse is frozen in place
01:11 rangi you should be able to hit tab and enter
01:13 rangi[…]keyb_mouse_normal
01:13 rangi that any help?
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01:29 mtompset Did you install the guest plugins?
01:29 mtompset And right ctrl is usually the toggle key for mouse capturing.
01:29 mtompset Did you solve your problem, Francesca?
01:30 Francesca nope still not working
01:30 mtompset What's your host OS?
01:30 mtompset (i.e. viritual box is running under...)
01:30 Francesca mac yosemite (10.10) I think
01:31 Francesca and I'm trying to set up the vm to run ubuntu
01:31 mtompset Oh... different meta key.
01:31 mtompset Not sure what the meta key for MAc is.
01:32 Francesca To capture the mouse I can use left command
01:32 Francesca but that doesnt unfreeze the mouse
01:32 mtompset out of curiousity...
01:32 eythian Have you installed it, or is this still the live image?
01:33 Francesca Virtual box is installed
01:33 Francesca currently its set to try ubuntu
01:33 Francesca but using my arrow keys I managed to open the installer
01:34 Francesca what's a live image?
01:34 mtompset rangi: I figured out how to revoke the access token, but that doesn't sign out of Google.
01:34 eythian the CD you can boot from and use it there.
01:35 eythian I'm just wondering - if you get it installed, it may then run in seamless mode which is better anyway.
01:35 Francesca right I don't have a cd
01:35 Francesca I downloaded a disk image to boot from
01:35 eythian that's the same thing
01:35 Francesca ok
01:35 Francesca seamless mode?
01:35 wahanui seamless mode is probably really cool!
01:35 eythian A CD is just a convenient place to put a disk image
01:35 eythian it's where you don't need to capture the mouse, it all just works like you'd expect any window to work
01:36 Francesca hmm well I'll see what happens when I get ubuntu installed in the VM
01:36 Francesca fingers crossed the mouse starts working
01:38 mtompset Are you installing desktop or server?
01:38 eythian the mouse would be less important for server
01:39 mtompset you may not even get it if you are installing server.
01:40 eythian you don't get a GUI if you're installing server.
01:41 eythian and I haven't seen GPM installed on a computer for many years now.
01:49 jcamins Francesca: when I've installed Ubuntu on VirtualBox, I don't recall there being any mouse.
01:49 jcamins I mean, once it was installed, yes.
01:49 jcamins But not in the installer.
01:50 jcamins And the host key is the left command key.
01:50 Francesca it works now!
01:50 Francesca Yay!
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02:05 wizzyrea francesca?
02:05 wahanui I love the 11th doctor!
02:05 wizzyrea wizzyrea?
02:05 wahanui you are a Cylon, and they all have plans.
02:24 mtompset But we know the Daleks would destroy the Cylons. :P
02:30 indradg hi
02:30 wahanui hi, indradg
02:38 wizzyrea :) maybe so
02:39 indradg i'm facing a curious problem after addinga new field in 952 :)
02:39 indradg the field show up in the marc editor on
02:40 indradg the new field is is authval based dropdown
02:40 indradg I can select a value and submit
02:40 indradg the data is getting submitted (i check with TamperData)
02:40 indradg but it is not being saved  in the database
02:41 eythian I would expect it to go in the other marc blob place
02:41 eythian marc_subfields_xml or something
02:41 indradg however should I try to edit the item records (after saving it once), Ithe data gets saves
02:41 eythian oh
02:41 eythian odd
02:42 indradg and since it is 952 the data will go into items
02:42 eythian did you make a special column for it or something?
02:43 indradg yes... added a new column in items
02:43 eythian and you added the extra mapping as well is just the framework?
02:43 eythian *as well as
02:43 indradg sub field to items.fundsource
02:44 indradg first pass, data is submitted but not saved in the db, second pass (edit) data gets saved
02:45 indradg edit another pre-existing 952 field like say $e and linking that field to the authval picklist does not have this problem
02:45 indradg eythian ^^
02:45 eythian but did you add the mapping in the thing that maps columns to marc fields? Not just in the framework?
02:46 eythian (I don't really know what hte issue is, I'm just running through what I would have thought of to double check.)
02:46 wizzyrea the koha -> marc mapping tool in administration
02:46 eythian that's the one
02:49 indradg wizzyrea: koha to marc mapping is there... bib framework test also gives out no error
02:50 eythian @wunder nzwn
02:50 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 24.0°C (3:30 PM NZDT on March 03, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
02:50 wizzyrea get your togs, it's a swimmin' day
02:51 indradg @wunder kolkata
02:51 huginn indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 22.0°C (7:50 AM IST on March 03, 2015). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
02:55 wizzyrea is that warm or cool for kolkata? well I suppose it's early morning so...
02:56 dcook @wunder syd
02:56 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 27.0°C (1:30 PM AEDT on March 03, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
02:57 dcook Hmm, it did feel a bit warm on the way in from the orthodontist..
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02:57 dcook Also, mogwai mogwai mogwai :p
02:58 eythian they can't play after midnight
02:58 dcook So that's why the show stopped before that...
02:58 dcook Half tempted to fly to the Brisbane show tomorrow which may or may not go later :o
02:58 dcook Don't really understand this "curfew" stuff though
02:58 dcook The bar/thing has a curfew of 11pm?
02:59 eythian usually depends on licensing
02:59 dcook Does that mean that people who are already in can stay in, and that new people can't?
02:59 dcook Or they stop serving at that point?
02:59 * dcook always associated "curfew" with teenagers
02:59 eythian depends on the license
02:59 dcook Fair enough
03:00 eythian which is (here at least) a combination of government rules and local council rules.
03:00 dcook That sounds like something which would be a thing here
03:00 dcook Also, riddle me this
03:00 dcook Why would a person say X is fixed when X hasn't been fixed?
03:00 dcook I would guess to save face in front of Y, except I'm going to now tell said person and Y that X hasn't been fixed...
03:01 dcook I feel like there's a relevant Simpsons quote... I just don't know it
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03:01 indradg wizzyrea: it is supposed to be spring... but we are sweating it out duing the day without air conditioning :)
03:01 eythian dcook: people are strange sometimes
03:03 dcook I'm guessing that must be it :S
03:03 dcook Or they didn't push to prod
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03:09 wizzyrea a mistake is a much more likely scenario
03:09 dcook Well, I guess you don't know all the back history :p
03:09 wizzyrea "never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by incompetence"
03:10 dcook Ahh, yes.
03:10 dcook Very much that.
03:10 dcook Oh well. I'll just be glad when the project is done.
03:10 wizzyrea or at least think very hard before attributing such things to malice.
03:11 dcook Well, I haven't attributed it to anything completely yet. I'm just puzzled.
03:11 dcook Highlighting lots of mistakes lately...
03:11 dcook Not that I don't make my own mistakes.
03:11 * dcook needs to find some time to fix some of his own mistakes on Bugzilla one of these days
03:16 dcook Yay! They fixed it!
03:53 indradg wizzyrea, eythian: figured out what the problem was! :)
03:54 indradg had to map the field into C4/ for the insert
03:58 dcook :S
03:58 dcook indradg: Which part of C4::Items?
03:59 dcook Ah, _koha_new_item
04:00 indradg dcook: yep!
04:00 dcook That should probably use DBIC these days
04:00 indradg since the update was looping through the keys, that was working :P
04:01 dcook heh
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04:02 dcook You can tell how often we add things to the items table, I guess :p
04:02 eythian indradg: if you had to patch the source, then it's probably worth making a bug for it as it really shouldn't be necessary.
04:04 * dcook was thinking about suggesting that as well
04:05 indradg i was just writing out the use-case :-)
04:06 indradg college libraries in India are having problems migrating to Koha without this "feature" that I'm tinkering with
04:06 indradg governmental funding compliance
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05:45 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
05:51 dcook Bleargh...
05:51 dcook bugs are the blurst
05:53 dcook Especially when they're in master..
05:55 dcook we declare $sessionID twice in checkauth() :/
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05:55 dcook Not necessarily much of a bug, but certainly a bug..
05:57 dcook Surely that second declaration is a mistake..
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06:00 drojf morning
06:00 dcook yo drojf
06:01 drojf hey dcook
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06:54 drojf when i do git fetch, i get fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
06:54 drojf i can apply patches though
07:13 rangi patches dont touch the git server
07:13 rangi its probably being hammered
07:14 rangi yeah it has max number of connections open, try again in a few minutes
07:16 rangi try that now drojf
07:17 rangi hmmmm
07:17 rangi no 3.16 or 3.14 for feb eh?
07:17 drojf working, thanks rangi
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07:52 reiveune hello
07:52 wahanui kia ora, reiveune
07:53 magnuse bonjour reiveune
07:54 reiveune magnuse: hi, it's the first time I can say you "hello" on irc and see you irl
07:55 magnuse reiveune: :-)
07:56 bag morning
07:59 magnuse bag: HI
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08:00 * bag holds out fist ;)
08:00 * nengard does back
08:00 bag heya nengard - feel better
08:00 nengard enough to get up and get some cereal - hoping some food in tummy will stop the burning :)
08:00 nengard and then will head out
08:00 nengard I can particpate virtually for now :)
08:01 bag yeah take it slow nengard
08:05 magnuse @quote 123
08:05 wahanui @quote get 123
08:05 huginn magnuse: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
08:05 huginn wahanui: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
08:05 wahanui ...but quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is <reply>...
08:07 matts hi #koha !
08:07 nengard hi
08:07 wahanui hola, nengard
08:09 rangi yeah buddy
08:09 wahanui
08:14 magnuse kia ora rangi
08:15 rangi hey magnuse
08:15 wahanui rumour has it magnuse is a Norwegian giant
08:15 nengard ha
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08:15 bag bonjour fridolin
08:15 fridolin bonjour tout le monde
08:16 fridolin akafred: yep, small question
08:17 fridolin are you in a 64 bits en ?
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08:20 gaetan_B hello
08:20 sophie_m hi #koha
08:22 tcohen morning #koha
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08:23 cait morning koha
08:23 cait #koha even :)
08:27 akafred Bonjour tous le monde! (literally :))
08:27 akafred fridolin: Yes, I am.
08:29 mtj rangi:  i aim to upload the 3.16 release stuff tonite
08:30 mtj hi all
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08:38 fridolin akafred: perfect because my install is a 64bitss
08:41 * akafred likes the wired network way better than the wireless from yesterday ... (I have also disabled my wireless just in case it helps those still on wireless) #hfk15
08:42 tcohen akafred
08:42 tcohen akafred++
08:43 nengard headed your way now
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08:43 mveron Hi #koha
08:46 akafred Joubu: Have you looked at ?
08:48 Joubu akafred: not at all, but looks great :)
08:48 clrh hello people
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08:49 akafred Joubu: I haven't tried it, but it looks a little higher level than Selenium::Remote::Driver.
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09:04 akafred Joubu: If you want to play around with the setup I used yesterday, I've made a branch with only the virtual machine we use for testing:[…]tree/vm-test-only The README has installation instructions for Ubuntu, Mac and ... Windo$.
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09:06 akafred Plack discussion now ... #hfk15
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09:17 nengard a few wrong turns, but i made it ;)
09:23 ashimema can someone make notes about the plack discussion..
09:23 ashimema it's one i would have lvoed to attend if I were there
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09:32 cait sorry, they lost me
09:32 cait but alex is sitting in on it
09:37 akafred ashimema: dpavlin says they have run Intra on Plack for about a year. They run with max-workers=1 which means plack doesn't reuse processes, but you get the benefit of preforked processes. The reason why processes are not reused is that there are issues with caching of system preferences (and frameworks). Cache invalidation should be possible, and would
09:37 akafred enable reuse of processes.
09:37 akafred ashimema: There are also a couple of questions regarding how to run it in multi-instance installations (the scripts here: doesen't support that). The solution mentioned is also apache-centric at the moment. [At this point I kinda faded from the disussion, but someone else might fill you in ...]
09:38 akafred ashimema: I think there are also unsolved questions regarding migration to plack for existing installations ... or at least about the recommended path ...
09:38 wahanui okay, akafred.
09:38 cait akafred++
09:40 ashimema cheers akafred..
09:40 ashimema yeah, I've been tracking it closely.. there are at least three different thoughts on moving to plack (in terms of actualyl settitng it up,, using packages, multi-tenancy)..
09:41 akafred they are currently looking for volunteers to look at some of the core issues ...
09:41 ashimema those ar ethe big questions I'm interested in.. was hoping they'd come out with it in the end of the chat with a definative path to follow ;)
09:41 ashimema interesting..
09:41 wahanui i heard interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad
09:41 ashimema cheers
09:42 akafred yep, they are still discussing ... hopefully someone else can fill #koha in on the action plan
09:47 clrh nengard: hello, do you know how/if people use a glossary to translate from english ?
09:47 clrh and where is this glossary ?
09:47 magnuse ashimema: https seems to be an issue in the plack discussion now
09:47 clrh what are the practices indeed
09:48 nengard clrh I don't understand the question.  What are you translating?
09:48 clrh I am translating in pootle the po files
09:48 cait clrh: we don't... it seems poole has something called glossary - but i am not sure how that works
09:48 cait we = german translators as far as I know
09:48 clrh it is terminology but we have a 500 server error when we generate it
09:48 cait clrh: maybe drop an email on the koha-translate list?
09:48 clrh I was interested to know the practices of team work
09:49 clrh ok cait
09:49 cait there is one for german... but i am not sure where this came from :)
09:49 clrh it is to be sure everyone use the same word to translate "notice" or "item" or whatever special library word
09:50 cait i think pootle might use it to make suggestions - maybe there is something in the pootle manual?
09:50 clrh I ll have a look
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09:53 ashimema magnuse.. are they talking plack behind apache/nginx...
09:53 ashimema if not.. that's the solution for https and serving of static content in a sensible way ;)
09:54 akafred clrh: Did you get cucumber installed? I have a procedure of sorts you can follow ...
09:55 clrh akafred: yep I tried yesterday evening looking at tv ;)
09:55 clrh gem install cucumber
09:55 clrh I read a little bit of documentation that's all, I'll try maybe more in the week
09:55 akafred Yeah, but you need a couple more things to do web-browser stuff
09:57 akafred clrh: If you just want to play around with it a little you could try the virtual machine I used yesterday. I isolated it in a branch of our repo:[…]st-only/
09:58 clrh thanks akafred !
10:00 akafred clrh: If you don't want to go down the virtual machine route the steps to install the necessary tools on Ubuntu are here (written in something called "salt states", but it shouldn't be impossible to interpret them):[…]salt/cucumber.sls
10:02 drojf would someone in marseille be willing to share their microphone during dev talks/discussions so we can listen in?
10:03 ashimema I was thinking similar drojf
10:04 ashimema wondered if there internet would be up to it..
10:04 akafred The discussion just ended ... I think there well be an action plan written down somewhere ...
10:05 Joubu dpavlin: yes, it's bug 11998
10:05 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11998 major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Patch doesn't apply , Syspref caching issues
10:06 tcohen hi ashimema
10:07 ashimema hi tcohen
10:07 tcohen we just agreed on things to do to have plack support out of the box
10:07 tcohen i'll be working on the debian scripts needed for this
10:07 ashimema excellent.. :)
10:07 ashimema lets have that agreement published somewhere :)
10:07 ashimema ;)
10:07 ashimema so we are all singing off the same hymsheet
10:07 tcohen dpavlin will work on syspref cache invalidation
10:08 magnuse dpavlin was taking notes, i think
10:08 tcohen and jonathan will try to fix the issues with on plack
10:08 tcohen morning magnuse
10:08 magnuse ¡hola tcohen!
10:08 tcohen shall we get a pizza together anytime soon?
10:08 magnuse pizza!
10:08 ashimema :(.. I want pizza
10:09 magnuse pizza lunch is on friday - i will miss that. so i'm up for pizza dinner any day!
10:10 ashimema lol
10:13 cait tested oe small patch
10:13 cait filed 2 new bugs...
10:13 cait but hey... hte patch works! :)
10:14 nengard woo hoo
10:16 dpavlin notes from plack discussion is at
10:16 dpavlin and remember, "man in plack" rimes with "man in black" -- conincidence? I don't think so!
10:16 magnuse cait: just don't do patches for the new bugs, so get the nso number down ;-)
10:16 cait :P
10:16 magnuse dpavlin++
10:18 tcohen dpavlin++
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10:19 ashimema dpavlin++
10:19 * ashimema goes to read it now
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10:25 magnuse yay me - finally signed off my first patch for the hackfest
10:37 fridolin Joubu: in sandfbox a perl module is missing
10:37 fridolin did you ask for integratio,n in commmunity repo ?
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10:39 ashimema which perl module fridolin...
10:39 ashimema ours are probabliy missing it too ;)
10:40 Joubu ashimema: no, they are not
10:40 fridolin ashimema: PDF:fromHTML
10:41 fridolin but the patch is not in master yet
10:41 ashimema cheers both..
10:41 fridolin Bug 8107
10:41 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8107 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, CLOSED FIXED, Disabled buttons not distinguishable from enabled buttons.
10:41 ashimema I'm just checking our sandboxs are all up and running now..
10:41 ashimema it's been a while since I've spent any real time on them ;)
10:46 tcohen dpavlin: we are not using it
10:46 tcohen we using the "bug number"
10:46 tcohen *we are
10:52 bag ashimema: if you could get anyone to work on this[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7736
10:52 huginn Bug 7736: new feature, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Failed QA , Edifact QUOTE and ORDER functionality
10:52 bag Basically I have tested all that and it works - just touch those things and it should be ready for QA and a bit easier in the QA stage :D
10:53 ashimema colin is rebasing and fixing those issues now as it happens
10:54 bag sweet :)
10:55 cait :)
11:00 Joubu akafred: did you see the docker presentation will planned at the same time of the rest api?
11:00 akafred Hm... then something must have moved.
11:01 Joubu do you agree to move it to 4pm or tomorrow?
11:02 akafred 4 pm is ok with me, actually i thought that was what i had put in there.
11:02 akafred But on the other hand, lots of meetings today, perhaps we should move it to tomorrow...
11:11 tcohen dpavlin: the port! how do we know the port!
11:11 matts the vieux port ?
11:12 tcohen matts: heh
11:17 matts Joubu, prove t/db_dependent/Serials_2.t
11:17 Joubu matts: All tests successful.
11:21 dpavlin tcohen: port for plack? Shouldn't we use file sockets instead?
11:22 tcohen dpavlin: not on wheeze I guess
11:32 ashimema is it just me, or is there a bug in the sandboxes now..
11:32 ashimema can anyone checkout master in a sandbox?
11:33 ashimema i take it there's a talk on
11:40 magnuse ashimema: nope, but cheese lunch is approaching fast...
11:40 ashimema indeed..
11:40 magnuse wow, bug 5010 is scary
11:40 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5010 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Fix OPACBaseURL to include protocol
11:40 ashimema I've got Joubu in pm now
11:40 ashimema we've found a bug ;)
11:40 ashimema it is indeed magnuse
11:41 ashimema 5010 that is
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11:58 jenkins_koha Starting build #81 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING)
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12:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #81: NOW UNSTABLE in 29 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_3.16.x_U14/81/
12:27 jenkins_koha Mason James: Adding release notes
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12:50 akafred khall, Joubu, fridolin, larryb and Alex – I am moving the "Koha in Docker"-session to tomorrow at 10 am - unless anyone objects :-)
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13:23 cait ashimema? :)
13:23 cait atheia!
13:23 cait where is oleonard? :)
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13:32 druthb cait?
13:32 wahanui cait is from germany. Ask me about germany.
13:32 druthb cait!
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13:36 clrh cait is having a walk outside looking at "notre dame de la garde" I think ;)
13:36 cait actually.. she is hiding in the office *hides*
13:36 cait druthb!
13:36 druthb no hiding!
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13:36 * druthb grabs cait and drags her out where people can see and admire her.
13:37 cait eeew
13:37 cait or eeek heh
13:38 druthb :P
13:38 druthb our amazing cait should not hide!
13:38 cait hmpf.
13:38 ashimema indeed.
13:39 druthb You're outvoted, cait
13:39 cait hmpf!
13:40 cait @later tell oleonard - could you please take a look at bug 13680 ?
13:40 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
13:40 druthb hmpfs back at cait.
13:40 cait stealing my words again? :)
13:41 druthb yep
13:46 cait I should make you pay for licensing it... but on theother hand we are working with free software here...
13:47 ashimema
13:48 ashimema doesn't work for me :(
13:49 cait saw it now
13:49 cait sooooo cute
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14:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #82 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING)
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14:42 * drojf yawns
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14:48 * drojf feels waved at and waves back
14:50 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
14:50 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
14:50 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_D7 build #81: FIXED in 25 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_3.16.x_D7/81/
14:50 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12782: t/db_dependent/XISBN.t fails in DOM setup
14:50 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12782: (followup) skip tests that fail because of provider's error
14:50 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12782 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , t/db_dependent/XISBN.t should work on DOM too
14:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #82: NOW UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_3.16.x_U14/82/
14:56 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12782: t/db_dependent/XISBN.t fails in DOM setup
14:56 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12782: (followup) skip tests that fail because of provider's error
14:56 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12782 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , t/db_dependent/XISBN.t should work on DOM too
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15:25 akafred khall: Did you look at something like / ? Raisin supports Any thoughts?
15:27 khall akafred: I've looked into swagger a bit. I think any tool that keeps our api standardized is something we should looking into using.
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15:39 ashimema I've played with swagger..
15:39 ashimema tis cool
15:41 indradg hello #koha
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15:51 akafred ashimema: did you use raisin?
15:56 cait akafred: i think he ran away :)
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16:12 akafred Joubu and JesseM : Cucumber in Perl?[…]cumber/README.pod
16:12 akafred[…]er::Manual::Steps
16:14 JesseM Thank you akafred
16:15 akafred Not sure if it is mature or anything, but at least it exists.
16:16 dpavlin we will have overview of taday's work in 15 minutes
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16:25 akafred huginn: @later tell larryb I mentioned measuring actual performance in the browser on every request, here is the browser spec that enables it:[…]Navigation_timing
16:25 huginn akafred: I've exhausted my database of quotes
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16:26 akafred @later tell larryb I mentioned measuring actual performance in the browser on every request, here is the browser spec that enables it:[…]Navigation_timing
16:26 huginn akafred: The operation succeeded.
16:28 akafred @later tell larryb There is a javascript library (boomerang.js) that makes sending the data back to the server easier ( ). In addition you need a script/service on the server that accepts the data.
16:28 huginn akafred: The operation succeeded.
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16:28 vfernandes hi :)
16:29 vfernandes one question: how i can improve my catalog searches speed?
16:29 vfernandes they're taking about 5/6s to search in 140k records
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16:29 vfernandes is this normal?
16:30 akafred @later tell larryb Using this you can actually measure the user experienced time from a user clicks a link until the next page is ready for interaction. That is pretty cool ...
16:30 huginn akafred: The operation succeeded.
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16:48 reiveune bye
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18:26 charles hi everybody
18:26 charles anybody familiar with C4::Reserve?
18:29 charles I read the _FixPriority method after profiling the script ./misc/cronjobs/holds/, and I couldn't believe the time spent updating rows in the database
18:30 charles is there a bug filed in bugzilla about the humongous amount of time wasted in that library?
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18:53 drojf hello again
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20:03 wizzyrea hi
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20:06 * wnickc waves
20:07 * mveron waves...
20:07 mveron @wunder allschwil
20:07 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 7.0°C (9:00 PM CET on March 03, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
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21:41 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn
21:41 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 21.0°C (10:30 AM NZDT on March 04, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
21:41 wizzyrea summer came late this year.
21:44 pianohacker :( there's been a winter storm warning in colorado for the past month almost...
21:44 pianohacker hi wizzyrea
21:44 wizzyrea hiya
21:47 eythian hi
21:47 wahanui hey, eythian
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21:52 eythian <-- this is excellent
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22:02 * cait1 waves
22:03 eythian hi cait1
22:04 cait1 hi eythian
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22:35 dcook eythian: I'm not done reading yet, but that's magic
22:35 eythian yes, it is :)
22:35 dcook "Because I was a first-timer, they even threw in an extra joint, a brownie bite, and a sample vial of hash oil. America! I collected the weed and retreated back inside."
22:37 dcook I have a friend who needed to get some clothing shopping done but didn't have the time to do it. This would've been perfect for her.
22:38 dcook I wonder if I actually saw a reference when I was looking things up for her that day..
22:38 dcook She's in Canada though. The only magical delivery is from Santa there.
22:39 eythian heh
22:39 eythian there are services around that ship you clothes and things
22:39 eythian a reasonable amount of people just buy them online these days, too
22:40 dcook Yeah, but she needed same night delivery
22:40 eythian oh ah
22:40 dcook Which Magic seems like it could do
22:40 dcook yeah when I was in North America, I bought all my shoes online
22:40 dcook I measured my feet, they posted their measurements, it was great
22:41 dcook Shoes in Australia are rather expensive and shipping from overseas isn't always an affordable option :/
22:41 dcook Well, it's affordable, but not cost effective.
22:45 eythian I think someone was telling me about a good online shoe place here. I should figure out what it was.
22:48 dcook I need to figure out one of those sometime soon. I've beaten my hikers all to hell.
22:49 dcook To be fair, they did make it through an 18km hike on Crete, but...
22:49 dcook I like my hikers to last a bit longer than 6 months
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23:27 pianohacker dcook: What was the place you got your shoes from? I'm ... blessed with large, strange-shaped feet and that sounds excellent
23:41 dcook I'd just go on Amazon, but it was usually through one of the shops on there which are just based in America
23:41 dcook I have pretty standard feet though I think?
23:49 pianohacker hrm, okay
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23:56 dcook pianohacker: what size are your feet?
23:57 dcook Mine are about 11 or 12, and... I was just about to measure in centimeters, but I'm wearing boots today and there is no way I'm unlacing my boots just to measure my feet..
23:57 pianohacker dcook: 13 wide (in US)
23:57 dcook Dang, that does sound like it would be hard
23:57 dcook I have a friend with 14 wide, and I'm not sure how he does it
23:58 dcook Actually, him and everyone I know with 14+ feet might just get custom shoes done..
23:58 dcook Or they just buy really fancy shoes as they always look great

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