Time Nick Message 00:00 rangi what does it do when they don't .. pick the first? 00:00 mtompset I got the second. 00:01 rangi yeah probably have to fail it in that case 00:01 mtompset Actually, this patch doesn't log out of Google. 00:01 rangi it's the OAuth one? 00:01 mtompset Yes. 00:01 rangi basically it should be a consistent thing 00:01 rangi and then a big note if you switch on the syspref or something 00:02 rangi it'd be a good feature to have i think 00:03 mtompset Is there an API way to log out of Google? 00:03 mtompset it wouldn't be hard to add, if there is. 00:17 wizzyrea koha doesn't look for alternate spellings - or is that "did you mean" 00:19 wizzyrea no, not did you mean 00:19 rangi fuzzy 00:19 rangi it does, but it's a bit too overzealous 00:19 eythian fuzzy would probably get some, but it'd lower their rankings 00:19 rangi yeah 00:28 wizzyrea we are talking color/colour 00:29 rangi fuzzy would get that 00:29 rangi but it will mess up the rest of the searching 00:29 wizzyrea heh 00:29 rangi it might be ok for them, they only have a few thousand titles eh? 00:30 wizzyrea yeah. 00:30 wizzyrea it's already on tho. 00:30 eythian fuzzy isn't the best solution to that. Some thesaurus type system would be, I don't know if zebra can do that, but I wouldn't be surprised if it can. 00:30 eythian wahanui: dcook 00:30 wahanui dcook is probably the designated masochist 00:30 eythian wahanui: dcook 00:30 wahanui hmmm... dcook is the Last Saskatchewan Pirate 00:30 eythian wahanui: dcook 00:30 wahanui dcook is, like, the Last Saskatchewan Pirate 00:30 eythian wahanui: dcook 00:30 wahanui dcook is, like, a zebra expert now 00:30 eythian there 00:30 wizzyrea hah 00:30 rangi hmm in that case, all you can really do is switch on the authority see also thing 00:31 wizzyrea yeahh 00:31 rangi 2 secs 00:32 wizzyrea designated masochist *and* the zebra expert - something about these seems to go together. 00:32 eythian yep 00:33 wizzyrea isn't there a bug with stemming/fuzzy 00:33 wizzyrea relevance is out the window? 00:33 wizzyrea or something. 00:33 wahanui something is sketchy 00:33 wizzyrea yes. exactly. 00:34 eythian it's autotruncation I think 00:34 rangi its all of them 00:35 rangi they all make relevance work differntly or not at all 00:35 wizzyrea yay? 01:09 Francesca hey rangi do I hit try ubuntu or install or ubuntu? its install right? 01:10 rangi install yep 01:10 Francesca hmm can't seem to move my mouse inside the vm 01:10 rangi try clicking inside it 01:11 Francesca it works outside of the install window 01:11 rangi theres some trick with virtualbox to make it grab the mouse then release it again 01:11 Francesca but when I try to hit install the mouse is frozen in place 01:11 rangi you should be able to hit tab and enter 01:13 rangi http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch01.html#keyb_mouse_normal 01:13 rangi that any help? 01:29 mtompset Did you install the guest plugins? 01:29 mtompset And right ctrl is usually the toggle key for mouse capturing. 01:29 mtompset Did you solve your problem, Francesca? 01:30 Francesca nope still not working 01:30 mtompset What's your host OS? 01:30 mtompset (i.e. viritual box is running under...) 01:30 Francesca mac yosemite (10.10) I think 01:31 Francesca and I'm trying to set up the vm to run ubuntu 01:31 mtompset Oh... different meta key. 01:31 mtompset Not sure what the meta key for MAc is. 01:32 Francesca To capture the mouse I can use left command 01:32 Francesca but that doesnt unfreeze the mouse 01:32 mtompset out of curiousity... 01:32 eythian Have you installed it, or is this still the live image? 01:33 Francesca Virtual box is installed 01:33 Francesca currently its set to try ubuntu 01:33 Francesca but using my arrow keys I managed to open the installer 01:34 Francesca what's a live image? 01:34 mtompset rangi: I figured out how to revoke the access token, but that doesn't sign out of Google. 01:34 eythian the CD you can boot from and use it there. 01:35 eythian I'm just wondering - if you get it installed, it may then run in seamless mode which is better anyway. 01:35 Francesca right I don't have a cd 01:35 Francesca I downloaded a disk image to boot from 01:35 eythian that's the same thing 01:35 Francesca ok 01:35 Francesca seamless mode? 01:35 wahanui seamless mode is probably really cool! 01:35 eythian A CD is just a convenient place to put a disk image 01:35 eythian it's where you don't need to capture the mouse, it all just works like you'd expect any window to work 01:36 Francesca hmm well I'll see what happens when I get ubuntu installed in the VM 01:36 Francesca fingers crossed the mouse starts working 01:38 mtompset Are you installing desktop or server? 01:38 eythian the mouse would be less important for server 01:39 mtompset you may not even get it if you are installing server. 01:40 eythian you don't get a GUI if you're installing server. 01:41 eythian and I haven't seen GPM installed on a computer for many years now. 01:49 jcamins Francesca: when I've installed Ubuntu on VirtualBox, I don't recall there being any mouse. 01:49 jcamins I mean, once it was installed, yes. 01:49 jcamins But not in the installer. 01:50 jcamins And the host key is the left command key. 01:50 Francesca it works now! 01:50 Francesca Yay! 02:05 wizzyrea francesca? 02:05 wahanui I love the 11th doctor! 02:05 wizzyrea wizzyrea? 02:05 wahanui you are a Cylon, and they all have plans. 02:24 mtompset But we know the Daleks would destroy the Cylons. :P 02:30 indradg hi 02:30 wahanui hi, indradg 02:38 wizzyrea :) maybe so 02:39 indradg i'm facing a curious problem after addinga new field in 952 :) 02:39 indradg the field show up in the marc editor on additem.pl 02:40 indradg the new field is is authval based dropdown 02:40 indradg I can select a value and submit 02:40 indradg the data is getting submitted (i check with TamperData) 02:40 indradg but it is not being saved in the database 02:41 eythian I would expect it to go in the other marc blob place 02:41 eythian marc_subfields_xml or something 02:41 indradg however should I try to edit the item records (after saving it once), Ithe data gets saves 02:41 eythian oh 02:41 eythian odd 02:42 indradg and since it is 952 the data will go into items 02:42 eythian did you make a special column for it or something? 02:43 indradg yes... added a new column in items 02:43 eythian and you added the extra mapping as well is just the framework? 02:43 eythian *as well as 02:43 indradg sub field to items.fundsource 02:44 indradg first pass, data is submitted but not saved in the db, second pass (edit) data gets saved 02:45 indradg edit another pre-existing 952 field like say $e and linking that field to the authval picklist does not have this problem 02:45 indradg eythian ^^ 02:45 eythian but did you add the mapping in the thing that maps columns to marc fields? Not just in the framework? 02:46 eythian (I don't really know what hte issue is, I'm just running through what I would have thought of to double check.) 02:46 wizzyrea the koha -> marc mapping tool in administration 02:46 eythian that's the one 02:49 indradg wizzyrea: koha to marc mapping is there... bib framework test also gives out no error 02:50 eythian @wunder nzwn 02:50 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 24.0°C (3:30 PM NZDT on March 03, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 02:50 wizzyrea get your togs, it's a swimmin' day 02:51 indradg @wunder kolkata 02:51 huginn indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 22.0°C (7:50 AM IST on March 03, 2015). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 02:55 wizzyrea is that warm or cool for kolkata? well I suppose it's early morning so... 02:56 dcook @wunder syd 02:56 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 27.0°C (1:30 PM AEDT on March 03, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 02:57 dcook Hmm, it did feel a bit warm on the way in from the orthodontist.. 02:57 dcook Also, mogwai mogwai mogwai :p 02:58 eythian they can't play after midnight 02:58 dcook So that's why the show stopped before that... 02:58 dcook Half tempted to fly to the Brisbane show tomorrow which may or may not go later :o 02:58 dcook Don't really understand this "curfew" stuff though 02:58 dcook The bar/thing has a curfew of 11pm? 02:59 eythian usually depends on licensing 02:59 dcook Does that mean that people who are already in can stay in, and that new people can't? 02:59 dcook Or they stop serving at that point? 02:59 * dcook always associated "curfew" with teenagers 02:59 eythian depends on the license 02:59 dcook Fair enough 03:00 eythian which is (here at least) a combination of government rules and local council rules. 03:00 dcook That sounds like something which would be a thing here 03:00 dcook Also, riddle me this 03:00 dcook Why would a person say X is fixed when X hasn't been fixed? 03:00 dcook I would guess to save face in front of Y, except I'm going to now tell said person and Y that X hasn't been fixed... 03:01 dcook I feel like there's a relevant Simpsons quote... I just don't know it 03:01 indradg wizzyrea: it is supposed to be spring... but we are sweating it out duing the day without air conditioning :) 03:01 eythian dcook: people are strange sometimes 03:03 dcook I'm guessing that must be it :S 03:03 dcook Or they didn't push to prod 03:09 wizzyrea a mistake is a much more likely scenario 03:09 dcook Well, I guess you don't know all the back history :p 03:09 wizzyrea "never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by incompetence" 03:10 dcook Ahh, yes. 03:10 dcook Very much that. 03:10 dcook Oh well. I'll just be glad when the project is done. 03:10 wizzyrea or at least think very hard before attributing such things to malice. 03:11 dcook Well, I haven't attributed it to anything completely yet. I'm just puzzled. 03:11 dcook Highlighting lots of mistakes lately... 03:11 dcook Not that I don't make my own mistakes. 03:11 * dcook needs to find some time to fix some of his own mistakes on Bugzilla one of these days 03:16 dcook Yay! They fixed it! 03:53 indradg wizzyrea, eythian: figured out what the problem was! :) 03:54 indradg had to map the field into C4/Items.pm for the insert 03:58 dcook :S 03:58 dcook indradg: Which part of C4::Items? 03:59 dcook Ah, _koha_new_item 04:00 indradg dcook: yep! 04:00 dcook That should probably use DBIC these days 04:00 indradg since the update was looping through the keys, that was working :P 04:01 dcook heh 04:02 dcook You can tell how often we add things to the items table, I guess :p 04:02 eythian indradg: if you had to patch the source, then it's probably worth making a bug for it as it really shouldn't be necessary. 04:04 * dcook was thinking about suggesting that as well 04:05 indradg i was just writing out the use-case :-) 04:06 indradg college libraries in India are having problems migrating to Koha without this "feature" that I'm tinkering with 04:06 indradg governmental funding compliance 05:45 mtompset Have a great day, #koha. 05:51 dcook Bleargh... 05:51 dcook Auth.pm bugs are the blurst 05:53 dcook Especially when they're in master.. 05:55 dcook we declare $sessionID twice in checkauth() :/ 05:55 dcook Not necessarily much of a bug, but certainly a bug.. 05:57 dcook Surely that second declaration is a mistake.. 06:00 drojf morning 06:00 dcook yo drojf 06:01 drojf hey dcook 06:54 drojf when i do git fetch, i get fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly 06:54 drojf i can apply patches though 07:13 rangi patches dont touch the git server 07:13 rangi its probably being hammered 07:14 rangi yeah it has max number of connections open, try again in a few minutes 07:16 rangi try that now drojf 07:17 rangi hmmmm 07:17 rangi no 3.16 or 3.14 for feb eh? 07:17 drojf working, thanks rangi 07:52 reiveune hello 07:52 wahanui kia ora, reiveune 07:53 magnuse bonjour reiveune 07:54 reiveune magnuse: hi, it's the first time I can say you "hello" on irc and see you irl 07:55 magnuse reiveune: :-) 07:56 bag morning 07:59 magnuse bag: HI 08:00 * bag holds out fist ;) 08:00 * nengard does back 08:00 bag heya nengard - feel better 08:00 nengard enough to get up and get some cereal - hoping some food in tummy will stop the burning :) 08:00 nengard and then will head out 08:00 nengard I can particpate virtually for now :) 08:01 bag yeah take it slow nengard 08:05 magnuse @quote 123 08:05 wahanui @quote get 123 08:05 huginn magnuse: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 08:05 huginn wahanui: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 08:05 wahanui ...but quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is <reply>... 08:07 matts hi #koha ! 08:07 nengard hi 08:07 wahanui hola, nengard 08:09 rangi yeah buddy 08:09 wahanui https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD0mif8R9vQ 08:14 magnuse kia ora rangi 08:15 rangi hey magnuse 08:15 wahanui rumour has it magnuse is a Norwegian giant 08:15 nengard ha 08:15 bag bonjour fridolin 08:15 fridolin bonjour tout le monde 08:16 fridolin akafred: yep, small question 08:17 fridolin are you in a 64 bits en ? 08:20 gaetan_B hello 08:20 sophie_m hi #koha 08:22 tcohen morning #koha 08:23 cait morning koha 08:23 cait #koha even :) 08:27 akafred Bonjour tous le monde! (literally :)) 08:27 akafred fridolin: Yes, I am. 08:29 mtj rangi: i aim to upload the 3.16 release stuff tonite 08:30 mtj hi all 08:38 fridolin akafred: perfect because my install is a 64bitss 08:41 * akafred likes the wired network way better than the wireless from yesterday ... (I have also disabled my wireless just in case it helps those still on wireless) #hfk15 08:42 tcohen akafred 08:42 tcohen akafred++ 08:43 nengard headed your way now 08:43 mveron Hi #koha 08:46 akafred Joubu: Have you looked at https://metacpan.org/pod/Test::Lithium ? 08:48 Joubu akafred: not at all, but looks great :) 08:48 clrh hello people 08:49 akafred Joubu: I haven't tried it, but it looks a little higher level than Selenium::Remote::Driver. 09:04 akafred Joubu: If you want to play around with the setup I used yesterday, I've made a branch with only the virtual machine we use for testing: https://github.com/digibib/ls.ext/tree/vm-test-only The README has installation instructions for Ubuntu, Mac and ... Windo$. 09:06 akafred Plack discussion now ... #hfk15 09:17 nengard a few wrong turns, but i made it ;) 09:23 ashimema can someone make notes about the plack discussion.. 09:23 ashimema it's one i would have lvoed to attend if I were there 09:32 cait sorry, they lost me 09:32 cait but alex is sitting in on it 09:37 akafred ashimema: dpavlin says they have run Intra on Plack for about a year. They run with max-workers=1 which means plack doesn't reuse processes, but you get the benefit of preforked processes. The reason why processes are not reused is that there are issues with caching of system preferences (and frameworks). Cache invalidation should be possible, and would 09:37 akafred enable reuse of processes. 09:37 akafred ashimema: There are also a couple of questions regarding how to run it in multi-instance installations (the scripts here: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack doesen't support that). The solution mentioned is also apache-centric at the moment. [At this point I kinda faded from the disussion, but someone else might fill you in ...] 09:38 akafred ashimema: I think there are also unsolved questions regarding migration to plack for existing installations ... or at least about the recommended path ... 09:38 wahanui okay, akafred. 09:38 cait akafred++ 09:40 ashimema cheers akafred.. 09:40 ashimema yeah, I've been tracking it closely.. there are at least three different thoughts on moving to plack (in terms of actualyl settitng it up,, using packages, multi-tenancy).. 09:41 akafred they are currently looking for volunteers to look at some of the core issues ... 09:41 ashimema those ar ethe big questions I'm interested in.. was hoping they'd come out with it in the end of the chat with a definative path to follow ;) 09:41 ashimema interesting.. 09:41 wahanui i heard interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad 09:41 ashimema cheers 09:42 akafred yep, they are still discussing ... hopefully someone else can fill #koha in on the action plan 09:47 clrh nengard: hello, do you know how/if people use a glossary to translate from english ? 09:47 clrh and where is this glossary ? 09:47 magnuse ashimema: https seems to be an issue in the plack discussion now 09:47 clrh what are the practices indeed 09:48 nengard clrh I don't understand the question. What are you translating? 09:48 clrh I am translating in pootle the po files 09:48 cait clrh: we don't... it seems poole has something called glossary - but i am not sure how that works 09:48 cait we = german translators as far as I know 09:48 clrh it is terminology but we have a 500 server error when we generate it 09:48 cait clrh: maybe drop an email on the koha-translate list? 09:48 clrh I was interested to know the practices of team work 09:49 clrh ok cait 09:49 cait there is one for german... but i am not sure where this came from :) 09:49 clrh it is to be sure everyone use the same word to translate "notice" or "item" or whatever special library word 09:50 cait i think pootle might use it to make suggestions - maybe there is something in the pootle manual? 09:50 clrh I ll have a look 09:53 ashimema magnuse.. are they talking plack behind apache/nginx... 09:53 ashimema if not.. that's the solution for https and serving of static content in a sensible way ;) 09:54 akafred clrh: Did you get cucumber installed? I have a procedure of sorts you can follow ... 09:55 clrh akafred: yep I tried yesterday evening looking at tv ;) 09:55 clrh gem install cucumber 09:55 clrh I read a little bit of documentation that's all, I'll try maybe more in the week 09:55 akafred Yeah, but you need a couple more things to do web-browser stuff 09:57 akafred clrh: If you just want to play around with it a little you could try the virtual machine I used yesterday. I isolated it in a branch of our repo: https://github.com/digibib/ls.ext/blob/vm-test-only/README.md 09:58 clrh thanks akafred ! 10:00 akafred clrh: If you don't want to go down the virtual machine route the steps to install the necessary tools on Ubuntu are here (written in something called "salt states", but it shouldn't be impossible to interpret them): https://github.com/digibib/ls.ext/blob/vm-test-only/test/salt/cucumber.sls 10:02 drojf would someone in marseille be willing to share their microphone during dev talks/discussions so we can listen in? 10:03 ashimema I was thinking similar drojf 10:04 ashimema wondered if there internet would be up to it.. 10:04 akafred The discussion just ended ... I think there well be an action plan written down somewhere ... 10:05 Joubu dpavlin: yes, it's bug 11998 10:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11998 major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Patch doesn't apply , Syspref caching issues 10:06 tcohen hi ashimema 10:07 ashimema hi tcohen 10:07 tcohen we just agreed on things to do to have plack support out of the box 10:07 tcohen i'll be working on the debian scripts needed for this 10:07 ashimema excellent.. :) 10:07 ashimema lets have that agreement published somewhere :) 10:07 ashimema ;) 10:07 ashimema so we are all singing off the same hymsheet 10:07 tcohen dpavlin will work on syspref cache invalidation 10:08 magnuse dpavlin was taking notes, i think 10:08 tcohen and jonathan will try to fix the issues with updatedatabase.pl on plack 10:08 tcohen morning magnuse 10:08 magnuse ¡hola tcohen! 10:08 tcohen shall we get a pizza together anytime soon? 10:08 magnuse pizza! 10:08 ashimema :(.. I want pizza 10:09 magnuse pizza lunch is on friday - i will miss that. so i'm up for pizza dinner any day! 10:10 ashimema lol 10:13 cait tested oe small patch 10:13 cait filed 2 new bugs... 10:13 cait but hey... hte patch works! :) 10:14 nengard woo hoo 10:16 dpavlin notes from plack discussion is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack 10:16 dpavlin and remember, "man in plack" rimes with "man in black" -- conincidence? I don't think so! 10:16 magnuse cait: just don't do patches for the new bugs, so get the nso number down ;-) 10:16 cait :P 10:16 magnuse dpavlin++ 10:18 tcohen dpavlin++ 10:19 ashimema dpavlin++ 10:19 * ashimema goes to read it now 10:25 magnuse yay me - finally signed off my first patch for the hackfest 10:37 fridolin Joubu: in sandfbox a perl module is missing 10:37 fridolin did you ask for integratio,n in commmunity repo ? 10:39 ashimema which perl module fridolin... 10:39 ashimema ours are probabliy missing it too ;) 10:40 Joubu ashimema: no, they are not 10:40 fridolin ashimema: PDF:fromHTML 10:41 fridolin but the patch is not in master yet 10:41 ashimema cheers both.. 10:41 fridolin Bug 8107 10:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8107 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, CLOSED FIXED, Disabled buttons not distinguishable from enabled buttons. 10:41 ashimema I'm just checking our sandboxs are all up and running now.. 10:41 ashimema it's been a while since I've spent any real time on them ;) 10:46 tcohen dpavlin: we are not using it 10:46 tcohen we using the "bug number" 10:46 tcohen *we are 10:52 bag ashimema: if you could get anyone to work on this http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7736 10:52 huginn 04Bug 7736: new feature, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Failed QA , Edifact QUOTE and ORDER functionality 10:52 bag Basically I have tested all that and it works - just touch those things and it should be ready for QA and a bit easier in the QA stage :D 10:53 ashimema colin is rebasing and fixing those issues now as it happens 10:54 bag sweet :) 10:55 cait :) 11:00 Joubu akafred: did you see the docker presentation will planned at the same time of the rest api? 11:00 akafred Hm... then something must have moved. 11:01 Joubu do you agree to move it to 4pm or tomorrow? 11:02 akafred 4 pm is ok with me, actually i thought that was what i had put in there. 11:02 akafred But on the other hand, lots of meetings today, perhaps we should move it to tomorrow... 11:11 tcohen dpavlin: the port! how do we know the port! 11:11 matts the vieux port ? 11:12 tcohen matts: heh 11:17 matts Joubu, prove t/db_dependent/Serials_2.t 11:17 Joubu matts: All tests successful. 11:21 dpavlin tcohen: port for plack? Shouldn't we use file sockets instead? 11:22 tcohen dpavlin: not on wheeze I guess 11:32 ashimema is it just me, or is there a bug in the sandboxes now.. 11:32 ashimema can anyone checkout master in a sandbox? 11:33 ashimema i take it there's a talk on 11:40 magnuse ashimema: nope, but cheese lunch is approaching fast... 11:40 ashimema indeed.. 11:40 magnuse wow, bug 5010 is scary 11:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5010 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Fix OPACBaseURL to include protocol 11:40 ashimema I've got Joubu in pm now 11:40 ashimema we've found a bug ;) 11:40 ashimema it is indeed magnuse 11:41 ashimema 5010 that is 11:58 jenkins_koha Starting build #81 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING) 12:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #81: NOW UNSTABLE in 29 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/81/ 12:27 jenkins_koha Mason James: Adding release notes 12:50 akafred khall, Joubu, fridolin, larryb and Alex – I am moving the "Koha in Docker"-session to tomorrow at 10 am - unless anyone objects :-) 13:23 cait ashimema? :) 13:23 cait atheia! 13:23 cait where is oleonard? :) 13:32 druthb cait? 13:32 wahanui cait is from germany. Ask me about germany. 13:32 druthb cait! 13:36 clrh cait is having a walk outside looking at "notre dame de la garde" I think ;) 13:36 cait actually.. she is hiding in the office *hides* 13:36 cait druthb! 13:36 druthb no hiding! 13:36 * druthb grabs cait and drags her out where people can see and admire her. 13:37 cait eeew 13:37 cait or eeek heh 13:38 druthb :P 13:38 druthb our amazing cait should not hide! 13:38 cait hmpf. 13:38 ashimema indeed. 13:39 druthb You're outvoted, cait 13:39 cait hmpf! 13:40 cait @later tell oleonard - could you please take a look at bug 13680 ? 13:40 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 13:40 druthb hmpfs back at cait. 13:40 cait stealing my words again? :) 13:41 druthb yep 13:46 cait I should make you pay for licensing it... but on theother hand we are working with free software here... 13:47 ashimema http://pbrd.co/1DORUxu 13:48 ashimema sna.gy doesn't work for me :( 13:49 cait saw it now 13:49 cait sooooo cute 14:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #82 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING) 14:42 * drojf yawns 14:48 * magnuse waves randomly 14:48 * drojf feels waved at and waves back 14:50 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 14:50 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 14:50 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_D7 build #81: FIXED in 25 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_D7/81/ 14:50 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12782: t/db_dependent/XISBN.t fails in DOM setup 14:50 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12782: (followup) skip tests that fail because of provider's error 14:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12782 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , t/db_dependent/XISBN.t should work on DOM too 14:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #82: NOW UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/82/ 14:56 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12782: t/db_dependent/XISBN.t fails in DOM setup 14:56 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12782: (followup) skip tests that fail because of provider's error 14:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12782 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , t/db_dependent/XISBN.t should work on DOM too 15:25 akafred khall: Did you look at something like https://metacpan.org/pod/Raisin / https://github.com/khrt/Raisin ? Raisin supports http://swagger.io/ Any thoughts? 15:27 khall akafred: I've looked into swagger a bit. I think any tool that keeps our api standardized is something we should looking into using. 15:39 ashimema I've played with swagger.. 15:39 ashimema tis cool 15:41 indradg hello #koha 15:51 akafred ashimema: did you use raisin? 15:56 cait akafred: i think he ran away :) 16:12 akafred Joubu and JesseM : Cucumber in Perl? https://metacpan.org/pod/distribution/Test-BDD-Cucumber/README.pod 16:12 akafred https://metacpan.org/pod/Test::BDD::Cucumber::Manual::Steps 16:14 JesseM Thank you akafred 16:15 akafred Not sure if it is mature or anything, but at least it exists. 16:16 dpavlin we will have overview of taday's work in 15 minutes 16:19 * codavid fr 16:19 codavid re 16:25 akafred huginn: @later tell larryb I mentioned measuring actual performance in the browser on every request, here is the browser spec that enables it: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Navigation_timing 16:25 huginn akafred: I've exhausted my database of quotes 16:26 akafred @later tell larryb I mentioned measuring actual performance in the browser on every request, here is the browser spec that enables it: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Navigation_timing 16:26 huginn akafred: The operation succeeded. 16:28 akafred @later tell larryb There is a javascript library (boomerang.js) that makes sending the data back to the server easier ( http://yahoo.github.io/boomerang/doc/ ). In addition you need a script/service on the server that accepts the data. 16:28 huginn akafred: The operation succeeded. 16:28 vfernandes hi :) 16:29 vfernandes one question: how i can improve my catalog searches speed? 16:29 vfernandes they're taking about 5/6s to search in 140k records 16:29 vfernandes is this normal? 16:30 akafred @later tell larryb Using this you can actually measure the user experienced time from a user clicks a link until the next page is ready for interaction. That is pretty cool ... 16:30 huginn akafred: The operation succeeded. 16:48 reiveune bye 18:26 charles hi everybody 18:26 charles anybody familiar with C4::Reserve? 18:29 charles I read the _FixPriority method after profiling the script ./misc/cronjobs/holds/cancel_expired_holds.pl, and I couldn't believe the time spent updating rows in the database 18:30 charles is there a bug filed in bugzilla about the humongous amount of time wasted in that library? 18:53 drojf hello again 20:03 wizzyrea hi 20:06 * wnickc waves 20:07 * mveron waves... 20:07 mveron @wunder allschwil 20:07 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 7.0°C (9:00 PM CET on March 03, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 21:41 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn 21:41 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 21.0°C (10:30 AM NZDT on March 04, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 21:41 wizzyrea summer came late this year. 21:44 pianohacker :( there's been a winter storm warning in colorado for the past month almost... 21:44 pianohacker hi wizzyrea 21:44 wizzyrea hiya 21:47 eythian hi 21:47 wahanui hey, eythian 21:52 eythian http://www.wired.com/2015/03/stump-magic/ <-- this is excellent 22:02 * cait1 waves 22:03 eythian hi cait1 22:04 cait1 hi eythian 22:35 dcook eythian: I'm not done reading yet, but that's magic 22:35 eythian yes, it is :) 22:35 dcook "Because I was a first-timer, they even threw in an extra joint, a brownie bite, and a sample vial of hash oil. America! I collected the weed and retreated back inside." 22:37 dcook I have a friend who needed to get some clothing shopping done but didn't have the time to do it. This would've been perfect for her. 22:38 dcook I wonder if I actually saw a reference when I was looking things up for her that day.. 22:38 dcook She's in Canada though. The only magical delivery is from Santa there. 22:39 eythian heh 22:39 eythian there are services around that ship you clothes and things 22:39 eythian a reasonable amount of people just buy them online these days, too 22:40 dcook Yeah, but she needed same night delivery 22:40 eythian oh ah 22:40 dcook Which Magic seems like it could do 22:40 dcook yeah when I was in North America, I bought all my shoes online 22:40 dcook I measured my feet, they posted their measurements, it was great 22:41 dcook Shoes in Australia are rather expensive and shipping from overseas isn't always an affordable option :/ 22:41 dcook Well, it's affordable, but not cost effective. 22:45 eythian I think someone was telling me about a good online shoe place here. I should figure out what it was. 22:48 dcook I need to figure out one of those sometime soon. I've beaten my hikers all to hell. 22:49 dcook To be fair, they did make it through an 18km hike on Crete, but... 22:49 dcook I like my hikers to last a bit longer than 6 months 23:27 pianohacker dcook: What was the place you got your shoes from? I'm ... blessed with large, strange-shaped feet and that sounds excellent 23:41 dcook I'd just go on Amazon, but it was usually through one of the shops on there which are just based in America 23:41 dcook I have pretty standard feet though I think? 23:49 pianohacker hrm, okay 23:56 dcook pianohacker: what size are your feet? 23:57 dcook Mine are about 11 or 12, and... I was just about to measure in centimeters, but I'm wearing boots today and there is no way I'm unlacing my boots just to measure my feet.. 23:57 pianohacker dcook: 13 wide (in US) 23:57 dcook Dang, that does sound like it would be hard 23:57 dcook I have a friend with 14 wide, and I'm not sure how he does it 23:58 dcook Actually, him and everyone I know with 14+ feet might just get custom shoes done.. 23:58 dcook Or they just buy really fancy shoes as they always look great