IRC log for #koha, 2015-03-02

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01:00 jcamins Hey, whisky is a common folk remedy for laryngitis, isn't it?
01:00 jcamins That makes my whisky coconut oatmeal chocolate chip cookies _medicinal_!
01:01 rangi yup, with hot water and lemon
01:02 eythian in separate glasses
01:03 eythian you don't mix your good scotch
01:03 jcamins Heh. I don't think this is good scotch.
01:03 jcamins I think it is, at best, okay scotch.
01:03 jcamins But that's okay, I can't tell the difference.
01:04 jcamins It's Dewar's 1960s vintage.
01:04 jcamins Though I guess scotch doesn't have vintages, since A) wheat doesn't grow on vines, and B) there are no dates on the bottle.
01:05 rangi yeah it just has age
01:05 jcamins Well, this Scotch is old, anyway. Even if it isn't particularly aged.
01:06 eythian some brands have good years and bad years of casking, but that's a level of knowledge above what I currently possess.
01:06 wizzyrea I read not long ago that the hot toddy was the absolute best cold remedy, beating out even cold medicine in a trial.
01:07 rangi sure tastes a bunch better too
01:07 jcamins wizzyrea: Shari read that too, actually.
01:07 ibeardslee althought you can't really tell after you've gone through most of the bottle
01:07 jcamins Maybe I should get lemons.
01:08 eythian honey is also good to add
01:08 jcamins Honey I have.
01:08 ibeardslee wizzyrea: I'm tempted to use that evidence when I next have a cold at work.
01:09 wizzyrea[…]old-remedy-234344
01:09 * eythian has a jar of local-bee honey complete with a wedge of honeycomb floating in the top. It's pretty good.
01:09 ibeardslee "but wizzyrea said it was better"
01:09 wizzyrea lemon, honey, whisky, water.
01:09 wizzyrea I stand by that.
01:09 eythian also netflix
01:09 ibeardslee in those portions?
01:09 wizzyrea[…]20150120_39077927
01:09 jcamins I guess I should eat one of my medicinal cookies, now that we've concluded the best thing is whisky.
01:10 wizzyrea bless browser history sync'd across devices (though... terrifying.)
01:11 wizzyrea local bees make the best honey for fighting local diseases.
01:11 ibeardslee mmm manuka honey
01:11 jcamins Local bees make the best honey in general.
01:11 jcamins In my experience.
01:11 eythian ibeardslee: nah, it's not manuka. Just ... newtown, I guess.
01:12 wizzyrea I have a jar of manuka honey that's specifically for coughs.
01:12 wizzyrea that I use specifically for coughs.
01:12 wizzyrea the honey itself is just manuka honey.
01:12 wizzyrea I think it tastes a bit funny with other stuff, anyway.
01:12 jcamins But it comes premixed with whisky? :)
01:12 wizzyrea IF ONLY.
01:13 eythian it contains dextromethorphan?
01:13 wizzyrea you can't give that to little people :(
01:14 ibeardslee the honey place near sanson had some whisky & honey liqueur .. it was quite nice
01:14 wizzyrea honey is "safer" and also proven more effective on coughs in trials (for kids. Probably for grown people too.)
01:14 jcamins This reminds me. I should probably have some hot water, whisky, and honey.
01:15 jcamins Maybe I'll get my voice back for more than an hour tomorrow!
01:15 wizzyrea (pediatricians don't recommend cough medicine for kids, at all, really.)
01:17 eythian I wonder how well that honey thing generalises
01:18 eythian e.g. between different types
01:18 wizzyrea not sure, anecdotally the manuka honey is more soothing than the clarified stuff we used to get in the states.
01:19 wizzyrea even the arataki stuff in the tub is better than that.
01:19 wizzyrea that = clarified honey
01:20 jcamins Speaking of things that are better than purified alternatives used in the States, have you ever had black lava sea salt?
01:20 jcamins So-called.
01:24 ibeardslee wizzyrea: scientifically manuka honey has some better things in it for antibadthing properties
01:24 ibeardslee .. ^^ not using scientific jargon
01:25 wizzyrea ibeardslee: that was my understanding
01:26 * ibeardslee is just waiting for some big pharma to patent it
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03:39 wizzyrea I'm rebooting right now for security updates. Just saying.
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03:42 wizzyrea and it should be back now
03:43 wizzyrea 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. < is like a zen state.
03:45 dcook hehe
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04:32 dcook You know I never thought about it... but I suppose where your server is hosted could matter with your circulation times...
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04:34 * dcook is now comparing time in NSW, Australia versus the UK versus Lebanon...
04:34 dcook Never a dull moment :)
04:56 * dcook wonders when this "Runtime Variables" thing happened...
04:56 dcook[…]Runtime_Variables
04:57 dcook Ahh
04:57 dcook Nevermind
04:57 dcook Nifty
05:09 AmitG chris around?
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07:10 cait @wunder Marseille
07:10 huginn cait: The current temperature in Saint Victoret, France is 10.3°C (8:09 AM CET on March 02, 2015). Conditions: Shallow Fog. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
07:31 matts hi #koha !
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07:43 bag good morning
07:43 bag bonjour
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07:45 nengard good morning #koha from marseille
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07:49 mveron Hi #koha
07:50 * mveron waves to Marseille
07:53 nengard hello
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07:57 reiveune hello
07:57 wahanui niihau, reiveune
07:57 nengard :)
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08:04 bag magnuse: HI
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08:22 * magnuse waves again
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08:36 * magnuse waves at Viktor
08:36 * Viktor waves at Magnuse and thinks it's nice to be able to do it across the room for once :)
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09:01 ashimema_mobile Morning hackfesters
09:02 ashimema_mobile Have fun all that are there...  I'll be watching irc for news? ;-)
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09:04 nengard morning ashimema_mobile
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09:08 magnuse hiya ashimema_mobile
09:08 ashimema_mobile Hey magnuse
09:08 ashimema_mobile Eat plenty of cheese for me today aye
09:09 ashimema_mobile Got any plans on what your going to hack on yet
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09:12 ashimema_mobile (ashimema_mobile) I'm out with a customer this morning.. Gotta work out what level of accessibility they need from the opac.. They seem to want aaa
09:12 ashimema_mobile Unreliable mobile signal on the train
09:12 magnuse ashimema_mobile: cheese is tomorrow :-)
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09:13 * magnuse plans to try and sign off bug 7939
09:13 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7939 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , Separate po files for different MARC dialects
09:13 ashimema_mobile Awesome
09:14 * magnuse suggested it and feels kind of responsible ;-)
09:14 ashimema_mobile That's a good one to get fixed
09:14 ashimema_mobile Gotta change train, back a bit later
09:14 ashimema_mobile Send my best to everyone
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09:41 bag ashimema: hi there
09:41 wahanui hello, bag
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10:01 drojf good morning #koha
10:02 cait hi drojf
10:02 cait ready to sign off? :)
10:02 cait there is a trello board
10:03 drojf not really, it's more like paperwork and ugly stuff day for me
10:04 drojf well, depends if i got relevant stuff in the mail
10:07 bag kivilahtio:
10:08 tcohen morning!
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10:32 magnuse moin drojf
10:32 cait i need to get started
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10:36 clrh how can we reset ?
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10:48 fridolin hie allllll
10:49 alex_a hie fridolin !
10:51 mtj hi all
10:52 mtj clrh: i think rangi is the reset person for scoreboard
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10:54 gaetan_B hello
10:54 wahanui what's up, gaetan_B
10:56 * mtj is loving the hackfest photos, so far :0)
10:56 mtj keep the food ones coming nengard
10:57 nengard LOL
10:58 mtj tee hee ;p
10:59 Joubu clrh: ask rangi :)
10:59 * magnuse was going to test bug 7939 - then i found bug 13772 and did a patch for it instead...
10:59 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7939 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , Separate po files for different MARC dialects
10:59 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13772 minor, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , koha-translate still looks for ccsr and prog OPAC themes
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11:04 marcelr hi #koha
11:05 cait hi marcel
11:06 marcelr cait: in france now?
11:06 cait yes
11:06 cait not really productive yet... but working on it
11:06 marcelr :)
11:06 nengard :)
11:06 nengard cait i understand
11:07 cait :)
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11:21 clrh rangi: when you'll pass here, I am interested in a reset of scoreboard for hackfest :) thanks ;)
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11:35 fridolin1 akafred: whould you be ok for "Koha-development setup" this afternoon
11:35 fridolin1 ?
11:36 akafred yes :-)
11:36 fridolin1 akafred: i've set the due date in trello
11:36 fridolin1 every one is welcomed
11:46 dpavlin cait: you said that you like stocknumbers:[…]_bug.cgi?id=13773
11:46 huginn Bug 13773: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , add stock number to details and items display
11:49 cait dpavlin++ :)
11:54 bag dpavlin++
11:54 bag ;)
11:56 akafred I hope more people will show highlights of their development environments in the session at 2 o'clock today. fridolin1 will show Eclipse-setup, I know kivilahtio / kivilahtio2 uses something else (please join!), and magnuse also has a virtual machine-setup I hope he will talk about!
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12:14 drojf so france is offline? :P
12:19 * mveron thinks that they have lunch...
12:19 * mveron has tu run, meeting
12:19 mveron to
12:19 sophie_m1 fridolin1 has deconnected the wifi spot
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12:22 drojf heh
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12:52 nengard bon jour druthb
12:52 druthb hi
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13:04 akafred I have suggested the intro on browser based testing at 4 PM / 16:00 today.
13:04 akafred And the Koha in Docker-session tomorrow at 2 PM / 14:00.
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13:08 matts magnuse, viktorsarge__ , in fact it was neither from Sweden nor from Norway... Danish movie :
13:08 magnuse matts: ah... :-)
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13:09 matts I've mixed it all up :)
13:09 Viktor matts: Aah. The Danish are good at depicting rough environments. Might have to see it :)
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13:13 matts Hey fellow Hackfesters, anyone up to test & signoff Bug 13507 ? I can help for the test part.
13:13 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13507 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Needs Signoff , Add intranet support for CAS authentication
13:13 matts Anyway if no one moves, I'll start to poke random hackfest attendants IRL :)
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13:22 akafred Last call: See development setups in the large meeting room now :-) #hfk15 :-)
13:24 Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.18.4 is released! Welcome to the IRC home of Koha | Code of conduct -[…]/code-of-conduct/ | Happy Birthday cait_| Please use for pastes | Installation guide for Koha is
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13:47 magnuse NSO is down from 147 this morning to 143 now. moar signoffs please!
13:58 Viktor magnuse: I just added one that is really quick to sign off. Hope to be forgiven for adding NSO instead of signing off :)
13:59 marcelr Viktor: in that case you should really sign off another two :)
14:00 Viktor I did bring chocolate however to increase the mood if adding NSO is frowned upon :)
14:00 marcelr virtual chocolates?
14:00 Viktor half a kilo today and another to be welcome back tomorrow :)
14:01 Viktor marcelr Nope - And it's time for "Fika" so I'll add them to the candy-table.
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14:03 Viktor Although chocholate is not really "fika", but rather for "Fredagsmys"
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14:07 magnuse Fredagsmys! we should make that a tradition in #koha
14:07 Viktor magnuse: I'll try and test 12768, 12769, 12770, 12624, 12771 and 12772 but they don't apply anymore so I'll do it in the test environment I got from the guys who wrote them. It's for more flexible overdues.
14:08 magnuse very cool!
14:08 magnuse rescuing stuff from "doesn't apply" is perhaps even cooler than signing off
14:16 Viktor magnuse: The guys doing the actual rescuing is on the other side of the atlantic. I only provide the funding. But yes it's good :)
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14:49 jenkins_koha Starting build #320 for job Koha_Master_D7 (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13731: Suggestions reason does not save on updating the status <[…]e7943577201671d17> / Bug 13745: Fix serial collection page to always show branch name <[…]aef0ffe0692c1b799> / Bug 13741: "No fund found" is not translatable <
14:49 magnuse NSO = 140 :-)
14:50 bag magnuse  HI
14:51 talljoy happy birthday cait!
14:53 jenkins_koha Starting build #297 for job Koha_Master_D6 (previous build: STILL FAILING)
14:54 barton Happy birthday, cait!
14:56 * barton wishes cait a clean build of Koha for her birthday.
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14:57 cait thx :)
14:59 jenkins_koha Starting build #320 for job Koha_Master_U12 (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:01 barton Ta-da! cait has a magical birthday. If jenkins doesn't build, have someone wish you a happy birthday, and it will be fixed :-)
15:01 cait heh
15:01 cait w can test that theory with JesseM tomorrow
15:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #309 for job Koha_Master_U14 (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:02 barton cait: I think that Jessem's birthday affects the Bywater trouble ticket queue.
15:02 barton ... but we can test that tomorrow.
15:05 magnuse bag: HI
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15:13 magnuse does "sudo koha-translate -c <language>" not work?
15:13 ashimema_mobile Afternoon peeps
15:13 magnuse bonjour ashimema_mobile
15:13 ashimema_mobile Happy birthday cait
15:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #245 for job Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB (previous build: FIXED)
15:15 ashimema_mobile How's it going at hackfest then?
15:15 ashimema_mobile Many kitties saved yet ;-)
15:15 clrh[…]ed-tests-for-koha now :)
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15:25 magnuse @seen bgkriegel
15:25 huginn magnuse: bgkriegel was last seen in #koha 13 weeks, 2 days, 20 hours, 46 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <bgkriegel> tcohen++
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15:52 magnuse so "koha-translate -c" works as it should, but there is no way to "create" with koha-translate
15:56 tcohen_ magnuse: that's not what the tool is intended for
16:00 reiveune bye
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16:01 cait nengard: could oyu take a look at bug  13497 -  he pref AddPatronLists should be removed ?
16:01 cait i am just interested if you see a reason why we shoudl keep the pref maybe / if one of oyur partners uses it
16:02 nengard cait all our libraries leave it set to the default value - so i don't think they'd notice if we removed it - i actually skip it in training
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16:02 cait would you be in favor ofremoving it then?
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16:04 nengard yes, i'm in favor of removing it
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16:17 nlegrand Hey #koha
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16:24 magnuse hiya nlegrand
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16:45 nlegrand hey magnuse ^^
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17:33 cait_ heading to omalleys
17:53 ashimema_ cait..
17:53 ashimema_ happy birthday cait
17:53 ashimema_ been tryig to say that all day :)
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19:45 drojf there are still bugs left for signoff. what kind of hackfest is that? :P
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20:30 rangi morning
20:30 drojf hi rangi
20:32 clrh hi rangi
20:32 rangi i wonder if anyone has made a hackfest playlist?
20:32 clrh playlist rangi ?
20:32 rangi hey drojf
20:32 clrh what do you call playlist ?
20:32 rangi!/play[…]a+Hacking/8190140  <-- like that
20:33 rangi!/play[…]ir+Money/57969319  <-- or that :)
20:33 clrh woki :)
20:34 clrh there is no music in the open space ;)
20:34 clrh did you see my ping this (my) morning ?
20:34 rangi ahh i cant work without headphones and music :)
20:34 drojf there is no grooveshark in germana
20:34 drojf germany
20:34 rangi hmm nope let me read back
20:34 clrh rangi: about scoreboard reset for hackfest
20:34 rangi ahhh bummer drojf  ... soundcloud?
20:34 rangi ahh yep i can do that
20:34 drojf soundcloud works
20:35 clrh thanks rangi :)
20:36 drojf grooveshark html5 version works in tor :D
20:36 rangi you started 9am marseille time eh?
20:36 clrh yep around
20:36 rangi drojf: probably slowly?
20:36 rangi cool ill update from there
20:36 clrh oh you can setup monday 9am ?
20:37 rangi yeah ill go back to there and start it from then, so all the stuff today will count
20:37 rangi (monday that is)
20:37 drojf rangi: no looks ok. sounds ok too. but will have a problem once i get a german exit node ;)
20:37 clrh great \o/
20:37 rangi drojf: cool :) and yeah :)
20:39 rangi starting now
20:47 clrh thanks rangi
20:57 rangi clrh: up to date now
20:58 talljoy jcamins around today?
20:58 talljoy dagnabbit.
21:00 rangi ohhh
21:00 rangi kohacon15 registration open
21:01 talljoy sweet.
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21:03 mveron hi #koha
21:03 rangi http://kohacon15.projektlinkko[…]inverted-copy.png   <--- cool kohacon15 logo
21:03 drojf hi mveron
21:04 drojf going to check your patch
21:04 drojf :)
21:04 mveron hi drojf :-)
21:04 talljoy awesome logo!!!
21:04 talljoy rangi are you going?
21:05 rangi depends on if i can convince work to pay, can't afford it otherwise
21:05 talljoy i'd love to go, but i went last year.
21:05 talljoy heck of a flight from here as well.  would you fly west or east to get there?
21:06 mveron Drojf: Oh, great,just wanted to ask... I hope we get Bug 4041 in soon...
21:06 rangi not sure
21:06 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4041 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Address Format as a I18N/L10N system preference
21:06 rangi its a long way either way i think
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21:17 indradg hi #koha
21:17 rangi[…]i/Kohacon_History
21:17 rangi does anyone have a copy of the kohacon13 logo?
21:19 indradg a question: in the marc framework editor, I was adding a new subfield under 952, found that unless I checked "OPAC" visibiltiy, the auth_val linked select is not being made visible...
21:19 indradg why so? and what am I missing... any idea?
21:23 drojf mveron: done. yes would be nice to have that in. thanks for the patches
21:23 drojf mveron++
21:23 rangi indradg: not sure
21:24 eythian hi
21:24 rangi @later tell joubu  <-- something to show at the hackfest maybe?
21:24 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
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21:30 indradg rangi: until i turned on the visibiltiy for OPAC, the subfield was created by remained hidden in the editor
21:34 rangi hmm i cant say ive used the framework editor in the last year or so, so wouldnt know, sounds like a bug though
21:36 gmcharlt indradg: fully hidden, or not expanded?
21:36 gmcharlt but yeah, on the face of it that situation seems buggish
21:39 * akafred notes that his hotel in Marseille is not soundproof ...
21:42 rangi heh thats never fun
21:45 indradg gmcharlt:
21:45 indradg
21:45 indradg
21:46 indradg gmcharlt: field "Fund utilized"
21:46 indradg and the moment I cllck "OPAC" on, everything works
21:47 indradg http://manual.koha-community.o[…]tml#editsubfields says to turn on visibility based on where you want it
21:48 indradg I want these two fields only on the intranet... so I'm trying to understand if I'm missing something
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21:52 gmcharlt indradg: yep, that smells buggy
21:52 indradg ok! thats all I wanted to confirm! thanks! :)
21:53 * indradg goes to look at the code
21:53 gmcharlt indradg: looks like bug 13331
21:53 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13331 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Subfield does not show in cataloging editor - if subfield is disabled in OPAC/enabled in Staff, via frameworks
21:53 indradg aah!
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21:58 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
21:58 bag heya mtompset
21:58 wahanui mtompset is, like, catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry
21:58 mtompset Greetings, bag.
21:58 mtompset CCSR has been deprecated, right?
21:59 rangi yep and prog
22:00 mtompset I just found a bug sitting in Needs Signoff, that needed some loving, and it needs some reworking. :)
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22:00 cait1 @wunder Marseille
22:00 huginn cait1: The current temperature in Saint Victoret, France is 11.1°C (10:59 PM CET on March 02, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Rising).
22:00 mtompset Happy Birthday, cait1. :)
22:01 bag happy birthday cait1
22:01 cait1 stillone hour left :)
22:01 eythian some of us are in the future here.
22:02 mtompset Next question... are we still using and sysprefs.sql to add system preferences?
22:02 bag cait still 10 hours in california left
22:02 eythian so happy birthday from Tuesday :)
22:02 rangi mtompset: yes
22:05 mtompset out of curiousity, what is atomicupdate?
22:06 mtompset installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate specifically.
22:06 rangi its an idea for updates that are atomic .. and dont require a specific order
22:06 drojf good night #koha
22:06 rangi ignore it for now
22:07 mtompset So, it would be better to tweak the patch to not use it?
22:07 mtompset bug 10988
22:07 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10988 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, vanoudt, Needs Signoff , Allow login via Google OAuth2
22:14 JesseM akafred im working on installing now
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22:29 akafred JesseM: Hope you have better Internet connection than I have ...
22:29 JesseM not looking to good akafred
22:31 akafred :-(
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22:48 mtompset Sweet! I think I got this unloved patch reworking for master. :)
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22:57 * Francesca waves
22:57 rangi hi Francesca
22:57 cait1 hi Francesca
22:57 Francesca hey rangi I'll be in some time between 2.00 and 2.30 today
22:58 Francesca hi cait1!
22:58 rangi righto i have to leave at 2.30 to pick kids up from school
22:59 Francesca I'll be in before then
22:59 rangi cool
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23:46 wizzyrea mtompset: that definitely qualifies as a kitten saved.
23:46 mtompset I prefer a puppy. Kittens can burn. :P
23:46 dcook O_O
23:47 mtompset Cats don't like me. Sorry. I don't like them back.
23:47 * dcook can think of at least two channel ops with kittens...
23:47 dcook But kittens!
23:47 dcook Oh well. I have to head out anyway :p
23:48 mtompset @later tell dcook Yes, kittens are cute.
23:48 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
23:48 mtompset That is truly evil, this patch latches onto the persona code.
23:49 mtompset Marks for ingenuity. :)
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23:53 rangi mtompset: whats evil about it?
23:53 rangi the persona code was released about 3.10
23:53 mtompset Not evil in a bad sense.
23:53 mtompset evil as in wicked... as in cool.
23:54 mtompset But what if there is more than one user with the same email address?
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23:57 rangi then they have all sorts of problems already
23:57 rangi like getting each others notices etc
23:58 mtompset Should we force a unique primary email, except in the case of dependent?
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23:59 rangi not sure, people might want to have 2 users with the same email for some reason, id just note that this patch makes the assumption that each user has a unique email address

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