IRC log for #koha, 2015-02-25

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00:06 eythian[…]ish-book-volume-1 <-- only heard half the first track so far, but it's pretty entertaining.
00:26 eythian ^-- rangi, I think you'd probably like that actually
00:27 rangi ta
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00:38 Francesca hey range what was the name of that text/html editor for mac thats similar to notepad ++?
00:38 Francesca rang sorry
00:39 rangi atom
00:39 Francesca rangi
00:39 Francesca can't spell sorry
00:39 Francesca thanks
00:39 eythian <-- you can find atom in Brussels
00:40 rangi <-- that one
00:41 jcamins Francesca: also, Brackets:
00:42 Francesca cool thanks
00:42 dcook Brackets... I think I saw someone using that the otehr day on a bus
00:43 jcamins It's surprisingly nice.
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03:43 dcook This never gets old:
03:43 dcook workflow?
03:43 wahanui i heard workflow was described at[…]nt-patch_Workflow
03:43 dcook workflow?
03:43 wahanui workflow is described at[…]nt-patch_Workflow
03:43 dcook workflow is also
03:43 wahanui okay, dcook.
05:11 bag @later tell wizzyrea[…]coolest-towns-us/
05:11 huginn bag: The operation succeeded.
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06:54 * magnuse waves
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06:58 bag magnuse: HI
06:58 bag magnuse: we fly to paris tomorrow
06:58 sim Hi
06:58 wahanui what's up, sim
06:58 bag heya sim
06:59 sim I have a question: Can i run koha and Dspace on the same server?
07:01 magnuse bag: HI
07:01 wahanui hello, magnuse
07:02 magnuse bag: ah, nice!
07:03 sim I was trying to install them on same server but apache2 for koha and tomcat for dsoace are conflicting since both are webservers. any help on this?
07:03 magnuse sim: i *think* it should be possible if you make the webservers listen on different ports
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07:06 magnuse bonjour fridolin
07:06 fridolin bonjour tout le monde
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07:07 reiveune hello
07:07 wahanui bonjour, reiveune
07:20 tomk morning all
07:22 bag yo matts
07:22 matts hi !
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07:31 magnuse bonjour reiveune tomk matts
07:32 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:32 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Saint Victoret, France is 7.8°C (8:31 AM CET on February 25, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
07:32 magnuse @wunder boo
07:32 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (8:20 AM CET on February 25, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady).
07:32 magnuse better crank up the heat for next week, marseille!
07:41 matts As long as Marseille's chilly wind is not blowing for the entire week, I'm good with Marseille's weather !
07:41 magnuse :-)
07:43 sim the problem is when I install tomcat apache will be offline and I cannot access koha.
07:43 bag magnuse: no leonard this time?
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07:45 drojf morning #koha
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07:48 Viktor Morning #koha
07:49 * Viktor waves at Magnuse
07:51 magnuse tjänare Viktor
07:51 magnuse bag: nope. his mother can't take any time off, so they have to stay at home
07:51 magnuse sadly
07:52 magnuse otherwise we could have had a hackfest kindergarten :-)
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07:56 bag ah
07:56 bag sigh
07:56 bag :|
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08:01 alex_a bonjour
08:01 wahanui hola, alex_a
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08:22 gaetan_B hello
08:22 wahanui what's up, gaetan_B
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09:14 cait hi #koha
09:15 drojf hi cait
09:16 drojf cait: your bugs are alreay signed off, right? at least i can't find them in the list anymore
09:27 magnuse moin cait and drojf
09:27 * cait waves
09:27 cait off to a meeting
09:27 cait drojf: yes, bag was busy
09:27 drojf hi magnuse
09:28 drojf cait: ok
09:30 drojf oh sunshine :)
09:31 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
09:31 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 5.0°C (10:20 AM CET on February 25, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
09:31 drojf looks warmer on the inside
09:32 cait @wunder Marseille
09:32 huginn cait: The current temperature in Saint Victoret, France is 10.1°C (10:31 AM CET on February 25, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
09:35 * cait wants more warm
09:36 * magnuse too
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10:03 andreashm hi #koha
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10:20 gaetan_B hi andreashm :)
10:20 * cait wave
10:20 cait s
10:23 andreashm hey gaetan!
10:23 andreashm gaetan: looking forward to meeting you again next week.
10:26 gaetan_B yep, let's have some cheese :)
10:27 andreashm I'm looking forward to the cheese too!
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10:42 jenkins_koha Starting build #68 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING)
10:43 cait andreashm: the pizza is good too - well everything is good :)
10:44 magnuse mmmm pizza...
10:49 andreashm cait: great! I'll look forward to all the food then. =)
10:50 drojf snackfest?
10:50 ashimema cait..
10:51 ashimema do you run pages through a html validator as part of your QA process..
10:51 ashimema ?
10:51 magnuse oh yes, koha snackfest! perfect! :-)
10:51 ashimema can we have a koha skifest this year... I really fancy going skiing again some time soon and would love to see you lot some time too as I'm missing hackfest
10:52 * ashimema puts money on Magnuse skiing
10:56 * cait curses a bit that january is 0 intead of 1 in the new numbering patterns
10:56 magnuse ashimema: it happens, but not very often
10:57 magnuse i have to start doing it a bit more often though, since one of the obigations of norwegian parenthood is teaching your kid to ski
11:01 cait :)
11:03 ashimema haha.. sounds fun magnuse
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11:12 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #68: NOW UNSTABLE in 29 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_3.16.x_U14/68/
11:12 jenkins_koha Marc Veron: Bug 12705 - News not possible for one sublanguage if two sublanguages are installed
11:12 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12705 normal, P4, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , News not possible for one sublanguage if two sublanguages are installed
11:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #69 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING)
11:16 andreashm all this talk of food makes me hungry. time to go and have pizza for lunch. =)
11:28 gaetan_B bon app'
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11:37 cait Joubu++ thx! :)
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11:39 Joubu cait: you're welcome :)
11:39 cait small things
11:40 cait could you take a look at bug 13746 too?
11:40 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13746 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , On creating a new subscription, notes fields get confused
11:40 cait i thin i need some help with unit testing
11:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #69: NOW UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_3.16.x_U14/69/
11:40 jenkins_koha * Liz Rea: Bug 12856: koha-disable fails without disabling site
11:40 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13458: specific followup for 3.16.x
11:40 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12856 blocker, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , koha-disable fails without disabling site
11:40 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13458 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Add new patron shows default / hardcoded patron categories after search
11:41 jenkins_koha Starting build #70 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING)
11:51 Joubu It was my next one :)
11:51 Joubu cait: do you want me to write them?
11:51 cait if you have time ... it woudl be nice
11:52 cait but you can also make me write them in marseille if you want :)
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11:52 cait just won't get to it before next week i think
11:53 * Joubu hates the serial module
11:55 kivilahtio Joubu: It is not that bad :)
11:55 kivilahtio Joubu: well kinda it is . It would be impossible to navigate that without a good debugger
11:57 Joubu cait: I think it's the expected behavior
12:06 Joubu cait: ok, laurence has confirmed, it's a bug :)
12:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #70: NOW UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_3.16.x_U14/70/
12:09 jenkins_koha * Mason James: Revert "Bug 12823: Add some hints for Host and Database"
12:09 jenkins_koha * Mason James: Revert "Bug 12823: Alert about defining the SRU search field mappings"
12:09 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12823 minor, P5 - low, ---,, Pushed to Stable , Add some hints for Host, Database and SRU search fields mappings
12:09 jenkins_koha Starting build #71 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING)
12:12 cait Joubu: i was irritated too - but it makes no sense
12:12 cait must have bene like this forever
12:14 Joubu yes, confirmed, 2008
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12:37 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #71: NOW UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_3.16.x_U14/71/
12:37 jenkins_koha * Olli-Antti Kivilahti: Bug 3186 - invalid or uninstalled SMSSendDriver (or bad number format) causes process_message_queue to fail
12:37 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 3186 [QA Followup] - Don't return undef, just return
12:37 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3186 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , invalid or uninstalled SMSSendDriver (or bad number format) causes process_message_queue to fail
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12:45 drojf @later tell nengard some of the screenshots on http://manual.koha-community.o[…]cingacqorder.html are huge, is that intended?
12:45 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded.
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13:37 drojf when i try to build a koha package, i get
13:37 drojf rm: cannot remove `/tmp/buildd/koha-3.19.01/debian/tmp/usr/s​hare/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/lib/yui': No such file or directory
13:37 drojf and it just stops
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13:47 drojf found it in debian/rules
13:47 nengard morning all
13:48 nengard drojf the screenshots that are huge in the manual were not supposed to be huge, but for some reason they turned out that way
13:48 nengard I can fix them as we find them
13:49 drojf nengard: so should i send you links to the files as i come across?
13:50 nengard sure, or if you have time you're free to resize them and submit patches :)
13:51 drojf i have never made a patch for the manual, is it a section on the regular bug tracker or somewhere else?
13:52 nengard you just email the patches to the documentation list - one sec i'll find the wiki page
13:52 nengard not much here - but here's the basics:[…]g_the_Koha_Manual
13:53 drojf thanks!
14:01 magnuse submitting patches for the manual is fun! you should try it!
14:08 drojf unfortunately i found something else to fix before i knew how to do that ;)
14:16 nengard thanks magnuse
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14:28 magnuse nengard: my pleasure! ;-)
14:28 magnuse taking off for europe soon?
14:30 nengard I leave on Friday
14:30 nengard with jessem and khall
14:32 cait nengard: we are meeting sunday for dinner - nto sure when you get in
14:32 cait but in case you want to get out for a bit :)
14:33 cait it's on the spreadsheet
14:42 nengard cait I'm not sure either because bag booked it all - but i'll take a look!!
14:43 cait you can decide spontanous :) just letting you know
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14:44 JesseM Hackfest!
14:44 wahanui hackfest is[…]st-marseille-2014
14:45 cait nengard: i will probably be available by twitter dm
14:45 magnuse snackfest!
14:46 nengard good to know cait
14:46 * magnuse wanders off to make dinner
14:46 nengard I will have my phone with a tiny bit of data
14:46 cait i checked yesterday, can get 100 mb for 5 euro :) should last for the hackfest :)
14:47 nengard actually that's what I have 100mb :) through my phone provider
14:47 cait i only got a prepaid card, so that's ok
15:18 reiveune bye
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15:50 bag cait (nengard khall JesseM bag (sonja and ginny) and larryb (cindy)) all are taking the train
15:50 bag train from paris - 11:37 arrive marseille st char 14:54 -- then metro to apartment
15:50 cait thought so :)
15:51 cait ah my train arrives 16:19
15:51 cait so not much later
15:51 nengard bag and then we're going to dinner with everyone on Sunday - right? :)
15:52 bag sounds like a plan - I have no idea how tired ginny will be or not be - so I may not be joining you
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17:12 seneca Hi everyone - I asked this question yesterday, but it was late and there weren't that many people around, so I'm asking it again here before I send it to the mailing list:
17:13 seneca When I go to create a new report, I get a ERR_CONNECTION_RESET error when I click "Save report"
17:14 seneca Nothing appears in any log about it, accept for the koha and apache access logs showing clicks up to the process.
17:16 seneca Just wondering if anyone else is seeing or has seen this behavior
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17:27 paul_p magnuse about ?
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18:19 drojf i still find the name libmoosex funny. i'll never grow up
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19:52 seneca Anyone ever get an "Software error: Invalid local time"... error after updating the time on their koha server?
19:57 seneca Oops! Never mind - I had mistyped the tie when I updated it
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20:08 rangi monring
20:08 seneca morning
20:13 seneca Anyone have any idea why I might get no search results after running "koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v koha"
20:14 seneca ?
20:15 rangi is zebra running?
20:16 seneca DUNNO
20:16 rangi thats the first thing id check
20:16 seneca oops... Sorry for yelling
20:16 seneca how can I check? Is it a service?
20:17 rangi ps axf | grep  zebrasrv
20:17 drojf morning rangi
20:18 seneca Hmmm
20:18 seneca 2084 ?        S      0:00 daemon --name=koha-koha-zebra --errlog=/var/log/koha/koha/zebra-error.log --stdout=/var/log/koha/koha/zebra.log --output=/var/log/koha/koha/zebra-output.log --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30 --user=koha-koha.koha-koha -- zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml
20:18 rangi and one other line?
20:18 seneca 2085 ?        S      0:00  \_ zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml
20:18 rangi yep thats all good then
20:18 seneca and then the line for the grep
20:19 seneca hmm
20:19 seneca is there a way to find out if "koha" was the correct instance?
20:19 rangi sudo koha-list
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20:19 seneca yeah, that's the only one
20:19 seneca guess I could try a reboot of the server...
20:19 rangi naw, that wouldnt fix it
20:20 seneca What do you mean, it fixes everything. ;)
20:20 rangi can you look in your koha-conf.xml
20:20 rangi <zebra_bib_index_mode>dom</zebra_bib_index_mode>
20:20 seneca ok
20:20 rangi whats your index mode
20:20 rangi dom or grs1
20:21 seneca where is it in there?
20:21 rangi towards the bottom
20:21 drojf or bug 13753
20:21 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13753 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , INDEXER_DAEMON default is incorrect in koha-indexer
20:21 seneca Do you know the tag offhand?
20:22 rangi yeah i pasted it in just up above
20:22 seneca Oh, whoops
20:22 rangi drojf: not running the indexer daemon i dont think
20:23 seneca that string isn't being found
20:23 rangi hmm what version of koha are you running
20:24 seneca
20:24 rangi and there is no zebra_bib_index_mode
20:25 rangi in your koha-conf.xml ?
20:25 seneca not that I can find
20:25 rangi try adding these 2 lines
20:25 seneca in /etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml
20:25 rangi <zebra_bib_index_mode>grs1</zebra_bib_index_mode>
20:25 rangi and
20:25 rangi <zebra_auth_index_mode>grs​1</zebra_auth_index_mode>
20:25 rangi just before the </config>
20:25 rangi at the bottom of the file
20:26 rangi then try a koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v koha
20:28 seneca ok, hold on
20:28 seneca right above my </config> now is <memcached_namespace></same>
20:30 seneca koha-rebuild-zebra is running
20:32 seneca OK
20:32 seneca results are back now
20:33 seneca What do you think happened? Did I not take an updated version of koha-conf.xml one update and miss that?
20:33 seneca Do you think there might be lots of other stuff I've missed?
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20:36 rangi perhaps some
20:36 rangi look for a .dpkg version of the config file and compaer
20:37 seneca I'll do that... thanks for your help!
20:38 rangi no worries
20:38 seneca Is a zebra rebuild / update part of a cronjob or anything? Should it be happening automatically?
20:43 rangi yes
20:44 rangi check /etc/cron.d/koha-common
20:44 rangi the packages do all that for you
20:46 seneca Ah, I see it now
20:46 seneca Again, thanks for your help
20:47 rangi no worries
20:47 rangi theres one on cron.hourly and cron.daily also
20:47 rangi for different jobs
20:47 seneca Have you happened to see my other problem, about the server disconnects? ;)
20:48 rangi id check to see if something is maxing out connections to mysql
20:48 rangi how many connections do you allow?
20:48 rangi the my.cnf file should tell you
20:48 rangi it might be something hitting the opac lots
20:48 seneca Actually - it's gone now...
20:48 seneca It wasn't # of clients
20:49 seneca It was when we tried to make a new report
20:49 seneca when we hit "Save report" the browser would get a server disconnection error
20:49 seneca But, oddly - I just retested it and it worked fine...
20:49 seneca Could it have something to do with the zebra issue?
20:51 seneca dangit - it just failed again
20:51 seneca Error code: ERR_CONNECTION_RESET
20:51 seneca and nothing in any logs
20:53 cait Joubu++ thx a lot for the unit tests
20:57 rangi seneca: seems like a mysql issue, you might want to switch on logging in mysql
20:57 cait drojf++ # funny bugs
20:57 seneca rangi: hmm - I'll try it and see what I can see
20:57 seneca rangi: thanks
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21:09 drojf i've seen that there has been a talk about koha and electronic resource management at kohacon 2013 and read that at least some people expressed interest in having that in koha. given that i see paul_p scheduled for kohacon 2014 with a talk about coral and biblibre taking it into their portfolio, i assume that means there won't be erm features in koha?
21:09 cait never say never... but i think currently most people seem to use separate software
21:10 drojf several people in the webinar were disappointed ;)
21:10 cait i can guess
21:10 cait there is some free software you oculd look into
21:10 cait or we could try and make a plugin? :)
21:11 cait i have some ideas...
21:11 drojf i will send them a link to coral for now
21:11 drojf cool
21:11 drojf i still have to understand what all is needed in erm ;)
21:12 wizzyrea drojf: libmoosex also makes me giggle. Every time.
21:12 cait yeah i haven't put all things together yet as well
21:12 wizzyrea I'm 12 inside.
21:12 cait :)
21:12 drojf wizzyrea: high12 :D
21:15 drojf cait: i think i will put coral on a vom somewhere and have a look what it actually does to get a better picture
21:15 drojf *vm
21:15 cait :)
21:15 drojf or maybe on a vps if you want to play too. i think it's just php
21:17 Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.18.4 is released! Welcome to the IRC home of Koha | Code of conduct -[…]/code-of-conduct/ | Happy Birthday carmenh| Please use for pastes | Installation guide for Koha is
21:18 cait yeah i think it is
21:34 eythian hi
21:35 drojf hi eythian
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22:52 jcamins wizzyrea: my experience has been that being sick for three days sucks before going back to work, too.
22:53 wizzyrea not only are you not 100% but there's all this stuff that needs doing >.<
22:54 jcamins I can relate to that.
22:54 * jcamins has been sick for almost two weeks now.
22:55 wizzyrea :( :( :(
23:20 * jcamins once again rediscovers that he has laryngitis.
23:21 jcamins I keep on doing things like walking up to people and starting talking, only to realize that I'm entirely inaudible.
23:21 eythian wave your hands as if you know sign language
23:21 eythian make them feel bad for not understanding
23:22 jcamins lol
23:23 jcamins That reminds me. I should review my finger spelling.
23:23 jcamins Because ASL fingerspelling will be really useful in an office full of Israelis, Russians, Ukrainians, Germans, and Romanians.
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