Time  Nick         Message
23:23 jcamins      Because ASL fingerspelling will be really useful in an office full of Israelis, Russians, Ukrainians, Germans, and Romanians.
23:23 jcamins      That reminds me. I should review my finger spelling.
23:22 jcamins      lol
23:21 eythian      make them feel bad for not understanding
23:21 eythian      wave your hands as if you know sign language
23:21 jcamins      I keep on doing things like walking up to people and starting talking, only to realize that I'm entirely inaudible.
23:20 * jcamins    once again rediscovers that he has laryngitis.
22:55 wizzyrea     :( :( :(
22:54 * jcamins    has been sick for almost two weeks now.
22:54 jcamins      I can relate to that.
22:53 wizzyrea     not only are you not 100% but there's all this stuff that needs doing >.<
22:52 jcamins      wizzyrea: my experience has been that being sick for three days sucks before going back to work, too.
21:35 drojf        hi eythian
21:34 eythian      hi
21:18 cait         yeah i think it is
21:15 drojf        or maybe on a vps if you want to play too. i think it's just php
21:15 cait         :)
21:15 drojf        *vm
21:15 drojf        cait: i think i will put coral on a vom somewhere and have a look what it actually does to get a better picture
21:12 drojf        wizzyrea: high12 :D
21:12 cait         :)
21:12 wizzyrea     I'm 12 inside.
21:12 cait         yeah i haven't put all things together yet as well
21:12 wizzyrea     drojf: libmoosex also makes me giggle. Every time.
21:11 drojf        i still have to understand what all is needed in erm ;)
21:11 drojf        cool
21:11 drojf        i will send them a link to coral for now
21:11 cait         i have some ideas...
21:10 cait         or we could try and make a plugin? :)
21:10 cait         there is some free software you oculd look into
21:10 cait         i can guess
21:10 drojf        several people in the webinar were disappointed ;)
21:09 cait         never say never... but i think currently most people seem to use separate software
21:09 drojf        i've seen that there has been a talk about koha and electronic resource management at kohacon 2013 and read that at least some people expressed interest in having that in koha. given that i see paul_p scheduled for kohacon 2014 with a talk about coral and biblibre taking it into their portfolio, i assume that means there won't be erm features in koha?
20:57 seneca       rangi: thanks
20:57 seneca       rangi: hmm - I'll try it and see what I can see
20:57 cait         drojf++ # funny bugs
20:57 rangi        seneca: seems like a mysql issue, you might want to switch on logging in mysql
20:53 cait         Joubu++ thx a lot for the unit tests
20:51 seneca       and nothing in any logs
20:51 seneca       Error code: ERR_CONNECTION_RESET
20:51 seneca       dangit - it just failed again
20:49 seneca       Could it have something to do with the zebra issue?
20:49 seneca       But, oddly - I just retested it and it worked fine...
20:49 seneca       when we hit "Save report" the browser would get a server disconnection error
20:49 seneca       It was when we tried to make a new report
20:48 seneca       It wasn't # of clients
20:48 seneca       Actually - it's gone now...
20:48 rangi        it might be something hitting the opac lots
20:48 rangi        the my.cnf file should tell you
20:48 rangi        how many connections do you allow?
20:48 rangi        id check to see if something is maxing out connections to mysql
20:47 seneca       Have you happened to see my other problem, about the server disconnects? ;)
20:47 rangi        for different jobs
20:47 rangi        theres one on cron.hourly and cron.daily also
20:47 rangi        no worries
20:46 seneca       Again, thanks for your help
20:46 seneca       Ah, I see it now
20:44 rangi        the packages do all that for you
20:44 rangi        check /etc/cron.d/koha-common
20:43 rangi        yes
20:38 seneca       Is a zebra rebuild / update part of a cronjob or anything? Should it be happening automatically?
20:38 rangi        no worries
20:37 seneca       I'll do that... thanks for your help!
20:36 rangi        look for a .dpkg version of the config file and compaer
20:36 rangi        perhaps some
20:33 seneca       Do you think there might be lots of other stuff I've missed?
20:33 seneca       What do you think happened? Did I not take an updated version of koha-conf.xml one update and miss that?
20:32 seneca       results are back now
20:32 seneca       OK
20:30 seneca       koha-rebuild-zebra is running
20:28 seneca       right above my </config> now is <memcached_namespace></same>
20:28 seneca       ok, hold on
20:26 rangi        then try a koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v koha
20:25 rangi        at the bottom of the file
20:25 rangi        just before the </config>
20:25 rangi        <zebra_auth_index_mode>grs1</zebra_auth_index_mode>
20:25 rangi        and
20:25 rangi        <zebra_bib_index_mode>grs1</zebra_bib_index_mode>
20:25 seneca       in /etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml
20:25 rangi        try adding these 2 lines
20:25 seneca       not that I can find
20:25 rangi        in your koha-conf.xml ?
20:24 rangi        and there is no zebra_bib_index_mode
20:24 seneca       3.18.04.000
20:23 rangi        hmm what version of koha are you running
20:23 seneca       that string isn't being found
20:22 rangi        drojf: not running the indexer daemon i dont think
20:22 seneca       Oh, whoops
20:22 rangi        yeah i pasted it in just up above
20:21 seneca       Do you know the tag offhand?
20:21 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13753 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , INDEXER_DAEMON default is incorrect in koha-indexer
20:21 drojf        or bug 13753
20:21 rangi        towards the bottom
20:21 seneca       where is it in there?
20:20 rangi        dom or grs1
20:20 rangi        whats your index mode
20:20 seneca       ok
20:20 rangi        <zebra_bib_index_mode>dom</zebra_bib_index_mode>
20:20 rangi        can you look in your koha-conf.xml
20:20 seneca       What do you mean, it fixes everything. ;)
20:19 rangi        naw, that wouldnt fix it
20:19 seneca       guess I could try a reboot of the server...
20:19 seneca       yeah, that's the only one
20:19 rangi        sudo koha-list
20:19 seneca       is there a way to find out if "koha" was the correct instance?
20:19 seneca       hmm
20:18 seneca       and then the line for the grep
20:18 rangi        yep thats all good then
20:18 seneca       2085 ?        S      0:00  \_ zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml
20:18 rangi        and one other line?
20:18 seneca       2084 ?        S      0:00 daemon --name=koha-koha-zebra --errlog=/var/log/koha/koha/zebra-error.log --stdout=/var/log/koha/koha/zebra.log --output=/var/log/koha/koha/zebra-output.log --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30 --user=koha-koha.koha-koha -- zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml
20:18 seneca       Hmmm
20:17 drojf        morning rangi
20:17 rangi        ps axf | grep  zebrasrv
20:16 seneca       how can I check? Is it a service?
20:16 seneca       oops... Sorry for yelling
20:16 rangi        thats the first thing id check
20:16 seneca       DUNNO
20:15 rangi        is zebra running?
20:14 seneca       ?
20:13 seneca       Anyone have any idea why I might get no search results after running "koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v koha"
20:08 seneca       morning
20:08 rangi        monring
19:57 seneca       Oops! Never mind - I had mistyped the tie when I updated it
19:52 seneca       Anyone ever get an "Software error: Invalid local time"... error after updating the time on their koha server?
18:19 drojf        i still find the name libmoosex funny. i'll never grow up
17:27 paul_p       magnuse about ?
17:16 seneca       Just wondering if anyone else is seeing or has seen this behavior
17:14 seneca       Nothing appears in any log about it, accept for the koha and apache access logs showing clicks up to the process.
17:13 seneca       When I go to create a new report, I get a ERR_CONNECTION_RESET error when I click "Save report"
17:12 seneca       Hi everyone - I asked this question yesterday, but it was late and there weren't that many people around, so I'm asking it again here before I send it to the mailing list:
15:52 bag          sounds like a plan - I have no idea how tired ginny will be or not be - so I may not be joining you
15:51 nengard      bag and then we're going to dinner with everyone on Sunday - right? :)
15:51 cait         so not much later
15:51 cait         ah my train arrives 16:19
15:50 cait         thought so :)
15:50 bag          train from paris - 11:37 arrive marseille st char 14:54 -- then metro to apartment
15:50 bag          cait (nengard khall JesseM bag (sonja and ginny) and larryb (cindy)) all are taking the train
15:18 reiveune     bye
14:47 cait         i only got a prepaid card, so that's ok
14:47 nengard      actually that's what I have 100mb :) through my phone provider
14:46 cait         i checked yesterday, can get 100 mb for 5 euro :) should last for the hackfest :)
14:46 nengard      I will have my phone with a tiny bit of data
14:46 * magnuse    wanders off to make dinner
14:46 nengard      good to know cait
14:45 magnuse      snackfest!
14:45 cait         nengard: i will probably be available by twitter dm
14:44 wahanui      hackfest is http://www.biblibre.com/en/blog/koha-hackfest-marseille-2014
14:44 JesseM       Hackfest!
14:43 cait         you can decide spontanous :) just letting you know
14:42 nengard      cait I'm not sure either because bag booked it all - but i'll take a look!!
14:33 cait         it's on the spreadsheet
14:32 cait         but in case you want to get out for a bit :)
14:32 cait         nengard: we are meeting sunday for dinner - nto sure when you get in
14:30 nengard      with jessem and khall
14:30 nengard      I leave on Friday
14:28 magnuse      taking off for europe soon?
14:28 magnuse      nengard: my pleasure! ;-)
14:16 nengard      thanks magnuse
14:08 drojf        unfortunately i found something else to fix before i knew how to do that ;)
14:01 magnuse      submitting patches for the manual is fun! you should try it!
13:53 drojf        thanks!
13:52 nengard      not much here - but here's the basics: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Editing_the_Koha_Manual
13:52 nengard      you just email the patches to the documentation list - one sec i'll find the wiki page
13:51 drojf        i have never made a patch for the manual, is it a section on the regular bug tracker or somewhere else?
13:50 nengard      sure, or if you have time you're free to resize them and submit patches :)
13:49 drojf        nengard: so should i send you links to the files as i come across?
13:48 nengard      I can fix them as we find them
13:48 nengard      drojf the screenshots that are huge in the manual were not supposed to be huge, but for some reason they turned out that way
13:47 nengard      morning all
13:47 drojf        found it in debian/rules
13:37 drojf        and it just stops
13:37 drojf        rm: cannot remove `/tmp/buildd/koha-3.19.01/debian/tmp/usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/lib/yui': No such file or directory
13:37 drojf        when i try to build a koha package, i get
12:45 huginn       drojf: The operation succeeded.
12:45 drojf        @later tell nengard some of the screenshots on http://manual.koha-community.org/3.18/en/placingacqorder.html are huge, is that intended?
12:37 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3186 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , invalid or uninstalled SMSSendDriver (or bad number format) causes process_message_queue to fail
12:37 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 3186 [QA Followup] - Don't return undef, just return
12:37 jenkins_koha * Olli-Antti Kivilahti: Bug 3186 - invalid or uninstalled SMSSendDriver (or bad number format) causes process_message_queue to fail
12:37 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #71: NOW UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/71/
12:14 Joubu        yes, confirmed, 2008
12:12 cait         must have bene like this forever
12:12 cait         Joubu: i was irritated too - but it makes no sense
12:09 jenkins_koha Starting build #71 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING)
12:09 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12823 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , Add some hints for Host, Database and SRU search fields mappings
12:09 jenkins_koha * Mason James: Revert "Bug 12823: Alert about defining the SRU search field mappings"
12:09 jenkins_koha * Mason James: Revert "Bug 12823: Add some hints for Host and Database"
12:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #70: NOW UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/70/
12:06 Joubu        cait: ok, laurence has confirmed, it's a bug :)
11:57 Joubu        cait: I think it's the expected behavior
11:55 kivilahtio   Joubu: well kinda it is . It would be impossible to navigate that without a good debugger
11:55 kivilahtio   Joubu: It is not that bad :)
11:53 * Joubu      hates the serial module
11:52 cait         just won't get to it before next week i think
11:52 cait         but you can also make me write them in marseille if you want :)
11:51 cait         if you have time ... it woudl be nice
11:51 Joubu        cait: do you want me to write them?
11:51 Joubu        It was my next one :)
11:41 jenkins_koha Starting build #70 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING)
11:40 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13458 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Add new patron shows default / hardcoded patron categories after search
11:40 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12856 blocker, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , koha-disable fails without disabling site
11:40 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13458: specific followup for 3.16.x
11:40 jenkins_koha * Liz Rea: Bug 12856: koha-disable fails without disabling site
11:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #69: NOW UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/69/
11:40 cait         i thin i need some help with unit testing
11:40 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13746 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , On creating a new subscription, notes fields get confused
11:40 cait         could you take a look at bug 13746 too?
11:39 cait         small things
11:39 Joubu        cait: you're welcome :)
11:37 cait         Joubu++ thx! :)
11:28 gaetan_B     bon app'
11:16 andreashm    all this talk of food makes me hungry. time to go and have pizza for lunch. =)
11:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #69 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING)
11:12 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12705 normal, P4, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , News not possible for one sublanguage if two sublanguages are installed
11:12 jenkins_koha Marc Veron: Bug 12705 - News not possible for one sublanguage if two sublanguages are installed
11:12 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #68: NOW UNSTABLE in 29 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/68/
11:03 ashimema     haha.. sounds fun magnuse
11:01 cait         :)
10:57 magnuse      i have to start doing it a bit more often though, since one of the obigations of norwegian parenthood is teaching your kid to ski
10:56 magnuse      ashimema: it happens, but not very often
10:56 * cait       curses a bit that january is 0 intead of 1 in the new numbering patterns
10:52 * ashimema   puts money on Magnuse skiing
10:51 ashimema     can we have a koha skifest this year... I really fancy going skiing again some time soon and would love to see you lot some time too as I'm missing hackfest
10:51 magnuse      oh yes, koha snackfest! perfect! :-)
10:51 ashimema     ?
10:51 ashimema     do you run pages through a html validator as part of your QA process..
10:50 ashimema     cait..
10:50 drojf        snackfest?
10:49 andreashm    cait: great! I'll look forward to all the food then. =)
10:44 magnuse      mmmm pizza...
10:43 cait         andreashm: the pizza is good too - well everything is good :)
10:42 jenkins_koha Starting build #68 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING)
10:27 andreashm    I'm looking forward to the cheese too!
10:26 gaetan_B     yep, let's have some cheese :)
10:23 andreashm    gaetan: looking forward to meeting you again next week.
10:23 andreashm    hey gaetan!
10:20 cait         s
10:20 * cait       wave
10:20 gaetan_B     hi andreashm :)
10:03 andreashm    hi #koha
09:36 * magnuse    too
09:35 * cait       wants more warm
09:32 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Saint Victoret, France is 10.1°C (10:31 AM CET on February 25, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
09:32 cait         @wunder Marseille
09:31 drojf        looks warmer on the inside
09:31 huginn       drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 5.0°C (10:20 AM CET on February 25, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
09:31 drojf        @wunder berlin, germany
09:30 drojf        oh sunshine :)
09:28 drojf        cait: ok
09:27 drojf        hi magnuse
09:27 cait         drojf: yes, bag was busy
09:27 cait         off to a meeting
09:27 * cait       waves
09:27 magnuse      moin cait and drojf
09:16 drojf        cait: your bugs are alreay signed off, right? at least i can't find them in the list anymore
09:15 drojf        hi cait
09:14 cait         hi #koha
08:22 wahanui      what's up, gaetan_B
08:22 gaetan_B     hello
08:01 wahanui      hola, alex_a
08:01 alex_a       bonjour
07:56 bag          :|
07:56 bag          sigh
07:56 bag          ah
07:52 magnuse      otherwise we could have had a hackfest kindergarten :-)
07:51 magnuse      sadly
07:51 magnuse      bag: nope. his mother can't take any time off, so they have to stay at home
07:51 magnuse      tjänare Viktor
07:49 * Viktor     waves at Magnuse
07:48 Viktor       Morning #koha
07:45 drojf        morning #koha
07:43 bag          magnuse: no leonard this time?
07:43 sim          the problem is when I install tomcat apache will be offline and I cannot access koha.
07:41 magnuse      :-)
07:41 matts        As long as Marseille's chilly wind is not blowing for the entire week, I'm good with Marseille's weather !
07:32 magnuse      better crank up the heat for next week, marseille!
07:32 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (8:20 AM CET on February 25, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady).
07:32 magnuse      @wunder boo
07:32 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Saint Victoret, France is 7.8°C (8:31 AM CET on February 25, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
07:32 magnuse      @wunder marseille
07:31 magnuse      bonjour reiveune tomk matts
07:22 matts        hi !
07:22 bag          yo matts
07:20 tomk         morning all
07:07 wahanui      bonjour, reiveune
07:07 reiveune     hello
07:06 fridolin     bonjour tout le monde
07:06 magnuse      bonjour fridolin
07:03 magnuse      sim: i *think* it should be possible if you make the webservers listen on different ports
07:03 sim          I was trying to install them on same server but apache2 for koha and tomcat for dsoace are conflicting since both are webservers. any help on this?
07:02 magnuse      bag: ah, nice!
07:01 wahanui      hello, magnuse
07:01 magnuse      bag: HI
06:59 sim          I have a question: Can i run koha and Dspace on the same server?
06:58 bag          heya sim
06:58 wahanui      what's up, sim
06:58 sim          Hi
06:58 bag          magnuse: we fly to paris tomorrow
06:58 bag          magnuse: HI
06:54 * magnuse    waves
05:11 huginn       bag: The operation succeeded.
05:11 bag          @later tell wizzyrea http://matadornetwork.com/trips/20-coolest-towns-us/
03:43 wahanui      okay, dcook.
03:43 dcook        workflow is also http://xkcd.com/1172/
03:43 wahanui      workflow is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug-enhancement-patch_Workflow
03:43 dcook        workflow?
03:43 wahanui      i heard workflow was described at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug-enhancement-patch_Workflow
03:43 dcook        workflow?
03:43 dcook        This never gets old: http://xkcd.com/1172/
00:43 jcamins      It's surprisingly nice.
00:42 dcook        Brackets... I think I saw someone using that the otehr day on a bus
00:42 Francesca    cool thanks
00:41 jcamins      Francesca: also, Brackets: http://brackets.io/
00:40 rangi        https://atom.io/ <-- that one
00:39 eythian      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomium <-- you can find atom in Brussels
00:39 Francesca    thanks
00:39 Francesca    can't spell sorry
00:39 Francesca    rangi
00:39 rangi        atom
00:38 Francesca    rang sorry
00:38 Francesca    hey range what was the name of that text/html editor for mac thats similar to notepad ++?
00:27 rangi        ta
00:26 eythian      ^-- rangi, I think you'd probably like that actually
00:06 eythian      https://soundcloud.com/dan-deacon/sets/wish-book-volume-1 <-- only heard half the first track so far, but it's pretty entertaining.