Time Nick Message 00:06 eythian https://soundcloud.com/dan-deacon/sets/wish-book-volume-1 <-- only heard half the first track so far, but it's pretty entertaining. 00:26 eythian ^-- rangi, I think you'd probably like that actually 00:27 rangi ta 00:38 Francesca hey range what was the name of that text/html editor for mac thats similar to notepad ++? 00:38 Francesca rang sorry 00:39 rangi atom 00:39 Francesca rangi 00:39 Francesca can't spell sorry 00:39 Francesca thanks 00:39 eythian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomium <-- you can find atom in Brussels 00:40 rangi https://atom.io/ <-- that one 00:41 jcamins Francesca: also, Brackets: http://brackets.io/ 00:42 Francesca cool thanks 00:42 dcook Brackets... I think I saw someone using that the otehr day on a bus 00:43 jcamins It's surprisingly nice. 03:43 dcook This never gets old: http://xkcd.com/1172/ 03:43 dcook workflow? 03:43 wahanui i heard workflow was described at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug-enhancement-patch_Workflow 03:43 dcook workflow? 03:43 wahanui workflow is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug-enhancement-patch_Workflow 03:43 dcook workflow is also http://xkcd.com/1172/ 03:43 wahanui okay, dcook. 05:11 bag @later tell wizzyrea http://matadornetwork.com/trips/20-coolest-towns-us/ 05:11 huginn bag: The operation succeeded. 06:54 * magnuse waves 06:58 bag magnuse: HI 06:58 bag magnuse: we fly to paris tomorrow 06:58 sim Hi 06:58 wahanui what's up, sim 06:58 bag heya sim 06:59 sim I have a question: Can i run koha and Dspace on the same server? 07:01 magnuse bag: HI 07:01 wahanui hello, magnuse 07:02 magnuse bag: ah, nice! 07:03 sim I was trying to install them on same server but apache2 for koha and tomcat for dsoace are conflicting since both are webservers. any help on this? 07:03 magnuse sim: i *think* it should be possible if you make the webservers listen on different ports 07:06 magnuse bonjour fridolin 07:06 fridolin bonjour tout le monde 07:07 reiveune hello 07:07 wahanui bonjour, reiveune 07:20 tomk morning all 07:22 bag yo matts 07:22 matts hi ! 07:31 magnuse bonjour reiveune tomk matts 07:32 magnuse @wunder marseille 07:32 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Saint Victoret, France is 7.8°C (8:31 AM CET on February 25, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising). 07:32 magnuse @wunder boo 07:32 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (8:20 AM CET on February 25, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady). 07:32 magnuse better crank up the heat for next week, marseille! 07:41 matts As long as Marseille's chilly wind is not blowing for the entire week, I'm good with Marseille's weather ! 07:41 magnuse :-) 07:43 sim the problem is when I install tomcat apache will be offline and I cannot access koha. 07:43 bag magnuse: no leonard this time? 07:45 drojf morning #koha 07:48 Viktor Morning #koha 07:49 * Viktor waves at Magnuse 07:51 magnuse tjänare Viktor 07:51 magnuse bag: nope. his mother can't take any time off, so they have to stay at home 07:51 magnuse sadly 07:52 magnuse otherwise we could have had a hackfest kindergarten :-) 07:56 bag ah 07:56 bag sigh 07:56 bag :| 08:01 alex_a bonjour 08:01 wahanui hola, alex_a 08:22 gaetan_B hello 08:22 wahanui what's up, gaetan_B 09:14 cait hi #koha 09:15 drojf hi cait 09:16 drojf cait: your bugs are alreay signed off, right? at least i can't find them in the list anymore 09:27 magnuse moin cait and drojf 09:27 * cait waves 09:27 cait off to a meeting 09:27 cait drojf: yes, bag was busy 09:27 drojf hi magnuse 09:28 drojf cait: ok 09:30 drojf oh sunshine :) 09:31 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 09:31 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 5.0°C (10:20 AM CET on February 25, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 09:31 drojf looks warmer on the inside 09:32 cait @wunder Marseille 09:32 huginn cait: The current temperature in Saint Victoret, France is 10.1°C (10:31 AM CET on February 25, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising). 09:35 * cait wants more warm 09:36 * magnuse too 10:03 andreashm hi #koha 10:20 gaetan_B hi andreashm :) 10:20 * cait wave 10:20 cait s 10:23 andreashm hey gaetan! 10:23 andreashm gaetan: looking forward to meeting you again next week. 10:26 gaetan_B yep, let's have some cheese :) 10:27 andreashm I'm looking forward to the cheese too! 10:42 jenkins_koha Starting build #68 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING) 10:43 cait andreashm: the pizza is good too - well everything is good :) 10:44 magnuse mmmm pizza... 10:49 andreashm cait: great! I'll look forward to all the food then. =) 10:50 drojf snackfest? 10:50 ashimema cait.. 10:51 ashimema do you run pages through a html validator as part of your QA process.. 10:51 ashimema ? 10:51 magnuse oh yes, koha snackfest! perfect! :-) 10:51 ashimema can we have a koha skifest this year... I really fancy going skiing again some time soon and would love to see you lot some time too as I'm missing hackfest 10:52 * ashimema puts money on Magnuse skiing 10:56 * cait curses a bit that january is 0 intead of 1 in the new numbering patterns 10:56 magnuse ashimema: it happens, but not very often 10:57 magnuse i have to start doing it a bit more often though, since one of the obigations of norwegian parenthood is teaching your kid to ski 11:01 cait :) 11:03 ashimema haha.. sounds fun magnuse 11:12 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #68: NOW UNSTABLE in 29 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/68/ 11:12 jenkins_koha Marc Veron: Bug 12705 - News not possible for one sublanguage if two sublanguages are installed 11:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12705 normal, P4, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , News not possible for one sublanguage if two sublanguages are installed 11:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #69 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING) 11:16 andreashm all this talk of food makes me hungry. time to go and have pizza for lunch. =) 11:28 gaetan_B bon app' 11:37 cait Joubu++ thx! :) 11:39 Joubu cait: you're welcome :) 11:39 cait small things 11:40 cait could you take a look at bug 13746 too? 11:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13746 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , On creating a new subscription, notes fields get confused 11:40 cait i thin i need some help with unit testing 11:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #69: NOW UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/69/ 11:40 jenkins_koha * Liz Rea: Bug 12856: koha-disable fails without disabling site 11:40 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13458: specific followup for 3.16.x 11:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12856 blocker, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , koha-disable fails without disabling site 11:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13458 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Add new patron shows default / hardcoded patron categories after search 11:41 jenkins_koha Starting build #70 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING) 11:51 Joubu It was my next one :) 11:51 Joubu cait: do you want me to write them? 11:51 cait if you have time ... it woudl be nice 11:52 cait but you can also make me write them in marseille if you want :) 11:52 cait just won't get to it before next week i think 11:53 * Joubu hates the serial module 11:55 kivilahtio Joubu: It is not that bad :) 11:55 kivilahtio Joubu: well kinda it is . It would be impossible to navigate that without a good debugger 11:57 Joubu cait: I think it's the expected behavior 12:06 Joubu cait: ok, laurence has confirmed, it's a bug :) 12:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #70: NOW UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/70/ 12:09 jenkins_koha * Mason James: Revert "Bug 12823: Add some hints for Host and Database" 12:09 jenkins_koha * Mason James: Revert "Bug 12823: Alert about defining the SRU search field mappings" 12:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12823 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , Add some hints for Host, Database and SRU search fields mappings 12:09 jenkins_koha Starting build #71 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING) 12:12 cait Joubu: i was irritated too - but it makes no sense 12:12 cait must have bene like this forever 12:14 Joubu yes, confirmed, 2008 12:37 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #71: NOW UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/71/ 12:37 jenkins_koha * Olli-Antti Kivilahti: Bug 3186 - invalid or uninstalled SMSSendDriver (or bad number format) causes process_message_queue to fail 12:37 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 3186 [QA Followup] - Don't return undef, just return 12:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3186 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , invalid or uninstalled SMSSendDriver (or bad number format) causes process_message_queue to fail 12:45 drojf @later tell nengard some of the screenshots on http://manual.koha-community.org/3.18/en/placingacqorder.html are huge, is that intended? 12:45 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded. 13:37 drojf when i try to build a koha package, i get 13:37 drojf rm: cannot remove `/tmp/buildd/koha-3.19.01/debian/tmp/usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/lib/yui': No such file or directory 13:37 drojf and it just stops 13:47 drojf found it in debian/rules 13:47 nengard morning all 13:48 nengard drojf the screenshots that are huge in the manual were not supposed to be huge, but for some reason they turned out that way 13:48 nengard I can fix them as we find them 13:49 drojf nengard: so should i send you links to the files as i come across? 13:50 nengard sure, or if you have time you're free to resize them and submit patches :) 13:51 drojf i have never made a patch for the manual, is it a section on the regular bug tracker or somewhere else? 13:52 nengard you just email the patches to the documentation list - one sec i'll find the wiki page 13:52 nengard not much here - but here's the basics: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Editing_the_Koha_Manual 13:53 drojf thanks! 14:01 magnuse submitting patches for the manual is fun! you should try it! 14:08 drojf unfortunately i found something else to fix before i knew how to do that ;) 14:16 nengard thanks magnuse 14:28 magnuse nengard: my pleasure! ;-) 14:28 magnuse taking off for europe soon? 14:30 nengard I leave on Friday 14:30 nengard with jessem and khall 14:32 cait nengard: we are meeting sunday for dinner - nto sure when you get in 14:32 cait but in case you want to get out for a bit :) 14:33 cait it's on the spreadsheet 14:42 nengard cait I'm not sure either because bag booked it all - but i'll take a look!! 14:43 cait you can decide spontanous :) just letting you know 14:44 JesseM Hackfest! 14:44 wahanui hackfest is http://www.biblibre.com/en/blog/koha-hackfest-marseille-2014 14:45 cait nengard: i will probably be available by twitter dm 14:45 magnuse snackfest! 14:46 nengard good to know cait 14:46 * magnuse wanders off to make dinner 14:46 nengard I will have my phone with a tiny bit of data 14:46 cait i checked yesterday, can get 100 mb for 5 euro :) should last for the hackfest :) 14:47 nengard actually that's what I have 100mb :) through my phone provider 14:47 cait i only got a prepaid card, so that's ok 15:18 reiveune bye 15:50 bag cait (nengard khall JesseM bag (sonja and ginny) and larryb (cindy)) all are taking the train 15:50 bag train from paris - 11:37 arrive marseille st char 14:54 -- then metro to apartment 15:50 cait thought so :) 15:51 cait ah my train arrives 16:19 15:51 cait so not much later 15:51 nengard bag and then we're going to dinner with everyone on Sunday - right? :) 15:52 bag sounds like a plan - I have no idea how tired ginny will be or not be - so I may not be joining you 17:12 seneca Hi everyone - I asked this question yesterday, but it was late and there weren't that many people around, so I'm asking it again here before I send it to the mailing list: 17:13 seneca When I go to create a new report, I get a ERR_CONNECTION_RESET error when I click "Save report" 17:14 seneca Nothing appears in any log about it, accept for the koha and apache access logs showing clicks up to the process. 17:16 seneca Just wondering if anyone else is seeing or has seen this behavior 17:27 paul_p magnuse about ? 18:19 drojf i still find the name libmoosex funny. i'll never grow up 19:52 seneca Anyone ever get an "Software error: Invalid local time"... error after updating the time on their koha server? 19:57 seneca Oops! Never mind - I had mistyped the tie when I updated it 20:08 rangi monring 20:08 seneca morning 20:13 seneca Anyone have any idea why I might get no search results after running "koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v koha" 20:14 seneca ? 20:15 rangi is zebra running? 20:16 seneca DUNNO 20:16 rangi thats the first thing id check 20:16 seneca oops... Sorry for yelling 20:16 seneca how can I check? Is it a service? 20:17 rangi ps axf | grep zebrasrv 20:17 drojf morning rangi 20:18 seneca Hmmm 20:18 seneca 2084 ? S 0:00 daemon --name=koha-koha-zebra --errlog=/var/log/koha/koha/zebra-error.log --stdout=/var/log/koha/koha/zebra.log --output=/var/log/koha/koha/zebra-output.log --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30 --user=koha-koha.koha-koha -- zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml 20:18 rangi and one other line? 20:18 seneca 2085 ? S 0:00 \_ zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml 20:18 rangi yep thats all good then 20:18 seneca and then the line for the grep 20:19 seneca hmm 20:19 seneca is there a way to find out if "koha" was the correct instance? 20:19 rangi sudo koha-list 20:19 seneca yeah, that's the only one 20:19 seneca guess I could try a reboot of the server... 20:19 rangi naw, that wouldnt fix it 20:20 seneca What do you mean, it fixes everything. ;) 20:20 rangi can you look in your koha-conf.xml 20:20 rangi <zebra_bib_index_mode>dom</zebra_bib_index_mode> 20:20 seneca ok 20:20 rangi whats your index mode 20:20 rangi dom or grs1 20:21 seneca where is it in there? 20:21 rangi towards the bottom 20:21 drojf or bug 13753 20:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13753 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , INDEXER_DAEMON default is incorrect in koha-indexer 20:21 seneca Do you know the tag offhand? 20:22 rangi yeah i pasted it in just up above 20:22 seneca Oh, whoops 20:22 rangi drojf: not running the indexer daemon i dont think 20:23 seneca that string isn't being found 20:23 rangi hmm what version of koha are you running 20:24 seneca 3.18.04.000 20:24 rangi and there is no zebra_bib_index_mode 20:25 rangi in your koha-conf.xml ? 20:25 seneca not that I can find 20:25 rangi try adding these 2 lines 20:25 seneca in /etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml 20:25 rangi <zebra_bib_index_mode>grs1</zebra_bib_index_mode> 20:25 rangi and 20:25 rangi <zebra_auth_index_mode>grs1</zebra_auth_index_mode> 20:25 rangi just before the </config> 20:25 rangi at the bottom of the file 20:26 rangi then try a koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v koha 20:28 seneca ok, hold on 20:28 seneca right above my </config> now is <memcached_namespace></same> 20:30 seneca koha-rebuild-zebra is running 20:32 seneca OK 20:32 seneca results are back now 20:33 seneca What do you think happened? Did I not take an updated version of koha-conf.xml one update and miss that? 20:33 seneca Do you think there might be lots of other stuff I've missed? 20:36 rangi perhaps some 20:36 rangi look for a .dpkg version of the config file and compaer 20:37 seneca I'll do that... thanks for your help! 20:38 rangi no worries 20:38 seneca Is a zebra rebuild / update part of a cronjob or anything? Should it be happening automatically? 20:43 rangi yes 20:44 rangi check /etc/cron.d/koha-common 20:44 rangi the packages do all that for you 20:46 seneca Ah, I see it now 20:46 seneca Again, thanks for your help 20:47 rangi no worries 20:47 rangi theres one on cron.hourly and cron.daily also 20:47 rangi for different jobs 20:47 seneca Have you happened to see my other problem, about the server disconnects? ;) 20:48 rangi id check to see if something is maxing out connections to mysql 20:48 rangi how many connections do you allow? 20:48 rangi the my.cnf file should tell you 20:48 rangi it might be something hitting the opac lots 20:48 seneca Actually - it's gone now... 20:48 seneca It wasn't # of clients 20:49 seneca It was when we tried to make a new report 20:49 seneca when we hit "Save report" the browser would get a server disconnection error 20:49 seneca But, oddly - I just retested it and it worked fine... 20:49 seneca Could it have something to do with the zebra issue? 20:51 seneca dangit - it just failed again 20:51 seneca Error code: ERR_CONNECTION_RESET 20:51 seneca and nothing in any logs 20:53 cait Joubu++ thx a lot for the unit tests 20:57 rangi seneca: seems like a mysql issue, you might want to switch on logging in mysql 20:57 cait drojf++ # funny bugs 20:57 seneca rangi: hmm - I'll try it and see what I can see 20:57 seneca rangi: thanks 21:09 drojf i've seen that there has been a talk about koha and electronic resource management at kohacon 2013 and read that at least some people expressed interest in having that in koha. given that i see paul_p scheduled for kohacon 2014 with a talk about coral and biblibre taking it into their portfolio, i assume that means there won't be erm features in koha? 21:09 cait never say never... but i think currently most people seem to use separate software 21:10 drojf several people in the webinar were disappointed ;) 21:10 cait i can guess 21:10 cait there is some free software you oculd look into 21:10 cait or we could try and make a plugin? :) 21:11 cait i have some ideas... 21:11 drojf i will send them a link to coral for now 21:11 drojf cool 21:11 drojf i still have to understand what all is needed in erm ;) 21:12 wizzyrea drojf: libmoosex also makes me giggle. Every time. 21:12 cait yeah i haven't put all things together yet as well 21:12 wizzyrea I'm 12 inside. 21:12 cait :) 21:12 drojf wizzyrea: high12 :D 21:15 drojf cait: i think i will put coral on a vom somewhere and have a look what it actually does to get a better picture 21:15 drojf *vm 21:15 cait :) 21:15 drojf or maybe on a vps if you want to play too. i think it's just php 21:18 cait yeah i think it is 21:34 eythian hi 21:35 drojf hi eythian 22:52 jcamins wizzyrea: my experience has been that being sick for three days sucks before going back to work, too. 22:53 wizzyrea not only are you not 100% but there's all this stuff that needs doing >.< 22:54 jcamins I can relate to that. 22:54 * jcamins has been sick for almost two weeks now. 22:55 wizzyrea :( :( :( 23:20 * jcamins once again rediscovers that he has laryngitis. 23:21 jcamins I keep on doing things like walking up to people and starting talking, only to realize that I'm entirely inaudible. 23:21 eythian wave your hands as if you know sign language 23:21 eythian make them feel bad for not understanding 23:22 jcamins lol 23:23 jcamins That reminds me. I should review my finger spelling. 23:23 jcamins Because ASL fingerspelling will be really useful in an office full of Israelis, Russians, Ukrainians, Germans, and Romanians.