IRC log for #koha, 2015-02-19

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00:06 rangi hey Francesca
00:06 wahanui I love the 11th doctor!
00:06 Francesca I finally fixed the nav issue on the scoreboard page
00:07 Francesca do you want a footer on the page btw?
00:19 dcook Hmm
00:19 dcook Does koha-translate install translations for both the OPAC and the staff client?
00:19 dcook It only lists PO files for the OPAC...
00:21 dcook It looks like it'll install both...
00:23 rangi i think it does both
00:23 eythian it should do both
00:23 eythian bit it only lists one, because otherwise it'll be confusing
00:25 dcook I suppose it might make more sense just to list the language code
00:25 dcook But *shrug*
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00:58 Francesca rangi: if you're there I just pushed some changes up and sent a merge request
00:59 rangi looking now
01:01 Francesca I tested the changes in xammp, so they should actually work this time fingers crossed
01:04 rangi
01:04 rangi looking good
01:04 Francesca that link directed me to the academy scoreboard??
01:05 rangi yep thats what you were changing wasnt it?
01:05 Francesca nope. The one I was working on, when I had it running via xampp had all your guys names on it
01:06 rangi yeah thats the same one
01:06 Francesca also my changes dont seem to show up on the page I just opened so kinda confused
01:06 rangi your copy just has old data
01:06 Francesca hmmm
01:07 Francesca do I need to clear the cache or something to see the changes show up?
01:07 rangi but that is definitely different from before i merged your changes
01:07 rangi it didnt have the links in the grey area before
01:08 Francesca the page I'm looking at doesnt have a menu at all
01:08 rangi maybe shift refresh
01:08 Francesca or ok
01:08 rangi its showing fine for me
01:09 rangi wizzyrea: can you see a menu link to jenkins etc at  ?
01:09 Francesca ah well
01:09 wizzyrea yep
01:10 Francesca ah there we go
01:10 rangi cool
01:10 Francesca I just still have the old data but at least the changes are showing up now
01:11 rangi yep, it shouldnt matter, that just shows the last hackfest .. ill be updating the data (that all lives in the scores.txt file) in march
01:11 Francesca Do you think the page needs a footer? I was going to put one in, but wasn't sure what I'd put in the footer
01:11 rangi hmm yeah not sure
01:12 Francesca ah well
01:12 Francesca I could just leave it off for now
01:12 Francesca or stick a date in the footer
01:13 rangi oh a date is a good idea
01:13 rangi if you could figure out with some js how to get it showing the date the last time the file was modified?
01:13 Francesca sweet I'll go add that now
01:13 Francesca oh I dont think I know how to do that
01:13 rangi then people will know when the score board was last updated
01:13 rangi im pretty sure google will know :)
01:14 Francesca yeah I'll go look it up
01:14 rangi (i dont either)
01:19 Francesca right, I figured out how to do it with a button
01:19 Francesca now gotta figure how to get it to display without the button
01:23 Francesca yus done it
01:26 rangi cool
01:34 Francesca well the dates gonna be a bit funny
01:34 Francesca its using month/day/time instead of day/month/time
01:36 eythian that's inhuman
01:37 eythian nothing should not be using ISO8601
01:37 eythian
01:37 wizzyrea I... you... just used a double negative.
01:38 eythian yeah right
01:38 * wizzyrea shakes fist
01:38 wizzyrea the hovertext makes me want to claw my eyes out.
01:39 eythian yep
01:40 Francesca rangi: just sent a merge request
01:42 rangi how's that
01:47 wizzyrea looks like it works to me
01:52 Francesca its working but is that the date you want?
01:53 Francesca I mean like I think it may change the date everyday regardless of wether the page was modified or not
01:53 wizzyrea it's documentModified, I think it should be alright
01:53 Francesca ok
01:53 rangi yeah the time isnt changing
01:53 Francesca I'll leave like it is then
01:53 Francesca I found a reallly long complicated way of doing it on stackoverflow
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01:53 wizzyrea oops.
01:54 Francesca rangi: there anything else that needs doing to that page?
01:54 Francesca Or should I go and look for another webpage to work on
01:54 rangi hmm i cant think of anything, anyone else?
01:56 Francesca maybe I'll go and fiddle around some more on the dashboard
02:00 rangi yeah theres new stuff on there
02:00 Francesca question: whats the file called? I have the folder cloned but have no idea what file I actually need to edit
02:01 rangi hmm? for the dashboard?
02:01 rangi do a git log
02:01 rangi and find a commit you did
02:01 rangi then do a git show the commit id
02:01 rangi eg
02:02 Francesca I haven't actually commited anything on dashboard since I cloned it
02:02 rangi yeah but the log will still have the stuff you did last time
02:02 Francesca the last time I did work on it was back at the academy
02:02 rangi yep
02:03 rangi still there
02:03 Francesca and that was just css using the pastebot
02:03 Francesca wow
02:03 Francesca ok I'll look
02:04 rangi looks like lots of public/assets/css/local.css
02:04 Francesca hmm yeah
02:04 Francesca ok
02:04 rangi and views/
02:05 Francesca show-entires is the page that shows up in the browser?
02:05 rangi yep
02:06 Francesca sweet
02:07 Francesca btw I should be getting a new computer in the next few weeks.
02:07 Francesca I'll need to come in and get set up with a virtual machine again
02:07 rangi awesome!
02:07 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, rangi
02:09 Francesca I'll let you know and you can tell me when the best time to come in is?
02:10 rangi sounds good!
02:11 Francesca sweet
02:11 Francesca having a vm running should hopefully make this waaay easier
02:11 Francesca though I'll be sorry not to be able to use notepad ++ anymore
02:12 Francesca it doesnt run on mac or linux
02:13 rangi try atom
02:13 rangi if you want something like notepad++
02:13 rangi
02:17 Francesca looks cool
02:17 Francesca I shall give it a try
02:23 Francesca I start uni in a week or so, so I'll properly be limited to only coming on here tuesdays for a bit
02:24 Francesca which is what we worked out anyways
02:24 rangi yep, sounds good
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05:35 bag good evening
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05:56 dcook Someone might want to look at koha-remove and koha-restore...
05:56 dcook I'll look again at some point, but getting lots of errors when trying to do a koha-restore
05:57 dcook Well, warnings that say they're errors
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06:42 kivilahtio eythian: :( I know
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06:50 kivilahtio @later tell drojf, we are working on it. We are hosting a conference for everybody interested in Koha. It is aimed towards  library users instead of technical users. On thursday we are having english speaking presentations and friday is Finnish speaking presentations. This is based on the presumption that we will garner the biggest interest domestically and maybe attract a few foreign visitors + speakers. We are trying to boost Koha's credibility
06:50 kivilahtio and viability as an alternative for the Finnish public libraries.
06:50 huginn kivilahtio: The operation succeeded.
07:03 * magnuse waves
07:07 kivilahtio hi mag!
07:13 magnuse hi kiv!
07:14 magnuse @wunder boo
07:14 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (7:50 AM CET on February 19, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.15 in 987 hPa (Steady).
07:14 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:14 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Saint Victoret, France is 2.3°C (8:13 AM CET on February 19, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Steady).
07:14 magnuse hah!
07:20 bag ha
07:20 bag HI magnuse
07:20 magnuse bag: HI
07:21 magnuse adapting to cet again?
07:30 bag I guess so
07:37 magnuse bag: when do you arrive in marseille? sunday?
07:38 bag sunday
07:38 bag leave saturday
07:42 magnuse cool
07:48 magnuse bag: if your family needs some tips on things to do i might have some :-)
07:48 bag yes that would be cool
07:48 bag Sonja would love that
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07:51 marcelr hi #koha
07:53 bag hello
07:53 wahanui que tal, bag
07:53 magnuse bag: i'll have a think about it and send you an email
07:53 bag cool thanks !
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07:59 alex_a bonjour
07:59 wahanui hi, alex_a
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08:24 Joubu Hello #koha!
08:25 drojf good morning #koha
08:26 tomk mornin drojf and hey Joubu
08:31 drojf hej tomk
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09:12 Joubu @later tell tcohen, be care, bug 12976 is *not* in master
09:12 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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09:21 Joubu @later tell tcohen, be care, bug 12970 is *not* in master
09:21 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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09:51 kivilahtio is there a limit with Zebra, where you only find say, 1000 results?
09:51 kivilahtio Like the SQL LIMIT-clause?
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09:54 Joubu kivilahtio: maybe explain-biblios.xml:    <!-- <setting type="maximumRecords">1000</setting> -->
09:54 Joubu ?
09:54 kivilahtio Joubu: thanks, but not what I am looking for
09:54 Joubu @later tell mtj: please have a look at bug 3186
09:54 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
09:55 kivilahtio Joubu: I'll just limit usinghte current year :)
09:56 kivilahtio Too bad I cannot make a search like ccl=datereceived>2015-01-01 even thought datereceived is indexed as a datereceived:d (Date?)
10:12 drojf thanks for the info about the conference, kivilahtio. found it in the log, the @later did not find me :D
10:13 kivilahtio drojf: sorry to hear that
10:13 drojf does not matter :)
10:13 kivilahtio I think I have more final information during the hackfest
10:15 bigbrovar Hi guys .. am running koha 3.16 (using debian 7 packages) however I am unable to get ldap authentication working I have setup the ldap paremeters in /etc/koha/site/opac/koha-conf.xml  however when I do a perl userid=foo password=passwd > /tmp/junk.txt I get this error
10:15 wahanui Hmm.  No matches for that, bigbrovar.
10:16 drojf kivilahtio: I'd love a trip to finland, don't speak finnish though ;) not sure about the travel budget either, but it sounds nice
10:16 bigbrovar should add that ldap auth with dspace 5 works
10:16 kivilahtio We are going to Koli, a national reserve closeby during the Saturday
10:16 kivilahtio drojf: So a bit of hiking and walking and not sure what we come up as well
10:17 drojf sounds lovely
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10:45 magnuse drojf, kivilahtio: i think most people in finland speak som level of english? (much like norway)
10:48 kivilahtio there definetely wont be a language barrier
10:48 * magnuse has been to finland 2 or 3 times and never had a problem with the language
10:48 drojf oh i did not expect there to be one, just for the friday talks held in finnish ;)
10:49 magnuse ah
10:50 kivilahtio we can do other cool Koha stuff on friday in a smaller group. We were hoping for people from Stocholm and Oslo to visit us and we could have a shadow conference of sorts
10:50 drojf i'll try to find out in march if it is an option for me to come, would be nice
10:50 kivilahtio happy to hear that!
10:51 tomk When, where? :)
10:51 kivilahtio later tell dro
10:51 kivilahtio we are working on it. We are hosting a conference for everybody interested in Koha. It is aimed towards  library users instead of technical users. On thursday we are having english speaking presentations and friday is Finnish speaking presentations. This is based on the presumption that we will garner the biggest interest domestically and maybe attract a few foreign visitors + speakers. We are trying to boost Koha's credibility and viability as
10:51 kivilahtio an alternative for the Finnish public libraries.
10:51 kivilahtio 21-22.5.2015
10:52 kivilahtio Joensuu, Finland
10:53 tomk Oh! Great stuff, kivilahtio
10:54 kivilahtio tomk: It is a lot of stuff, luckily we have some hired help
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11:33 drojf if i would want to play with ldap a little… what should i get? openldap?
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12:31 tcohen morning!
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12:46 tcohen Joubu: it seems that I typed 12976 instead of 12975 on git-bz when marking the patches pushed. Sorry for that.
12:54 tcohen @later tell rangi it seems jenkins is not sending emails for regressions to authors
12:54 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
13:04 Joubu tcohen: hi
13:04 Joubu same problem for 12970
13:05 tcohen i don't get it
13:05 tcohen i'm pretty sure I pushed it
13:05 tcohen :/
13:05 tcohen i mean, i can make mistakes
13:06 tcohen but I follow the same workflow daily... and this is more than an statistical error
13:13 tcohen Joubu: I'm sorry for the inconvenience
13:13 Joubu tcohen: no problem :)
13:13 * tcohen heads to the office kitchen to get a big mug of coffee
13:13 tcohen *sigh
13:13 Joubu Maybe you should double check the others bug you pushed that day :)
13:14 tcohen definitely
13:14 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12970: Fix the footer if several tax rate exist <[…]f828cdbe48ce1ec64> / Bug 12970: Cancelled orders <[…]cf677759dd3a99376> / Bug 12970: Format totals <[…]ddb4750fd9ba594d5
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13:17 tcohen Joubu:[…]y_format=advanced
13:17 tcohen :-/
13:18 tcohen 13001 is pushed, so something went wrong with the other two
13:18 Joubu tcohen: thanks
13:25 oleonard @wunder 45701
13:25 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is -17.7°C (8:25 AM EST on February 19, 2015). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -20.0°C. Windchill: -18.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Falling). Wind Chill Advisory in effect until 1 am EST Friday...
13:26 oleonard @wunder mcmurdo
13:26 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in McMurdo Station, McMurdo, Antarctica is -5.7°C (2:26 AM NZDT on February 20, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: -999%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 28.96 in 981 hPa (Falling).
13:27 oleonard Well at least the humidity here isn't -999%.
13:27 magnuse ouch!
13:27 magnuse wunder boo
13:28 magnuse @wunder boo
13:28 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (2:20 PM CET on February 19, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.12 in 986 hPa (Falling).
13:28 magnuse nort of the arctic circle, baby!
13:30 * oleonard will have to wait until Saturday for Norway-like weather
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13:37 oleonard Zebra doesn't use MARC's nonfiling characters indicator for sorting does it?
13:39 ashimema_ is it just me or are the charges and charges total just plain wrong in the circulation checkouts table?
13:40 ashimema_ I'm sure the total is showing the total fines under the charges column, but the charges data above in the column are showing actual charges and not fines..
13:40 ashimema_ ?
13:40 * oleonard shoots his mouth off on Bug 13722 without waiting for the answer
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13:40 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13722 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Titles with articles not sorting correctly in lists
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13:54 tcohen hi ashimema_ ! how is it goging?
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14:05 magnuse oleonard: i think koha does very little with indicators at all?
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14:09 Joubu Could a native English speaker confirm the wording on bug 13686 please?
14:09 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13686 trivial, P5 - low, ---, viktor.sarge, Signed Off , Add a hint about collation to the "alphabet" syspref
14:09 Joubu cc oleonard, ashimema_ ;)
14:19 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
14:19 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
14:19 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #314: FIXED in 45 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_D7/314/
14:19 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12976: Use the centralize VAT and prices calculation -
14:19 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12976: Fix the footer if several tax rate exist
14:19 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12976: Fix some comment in tests
14:19 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12976 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Refactor VAT and price calculation - invoice page
14:19 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 13712 - Missing newline in DB update
14:19 jenkins_koha * Frédéric Demians: Bug 13568 OAI Server doesn't handle properly resumption token
14:19 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12970: Use the centralize VAT and prices calculation -
14:19 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12970: Format totals
14:19 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13712 trivial, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Missing newline in DB update
14:19 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12970: Cancelled orders
14:19 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12970: Fix the footer if several tax rate exist
14:19 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13568 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , OAI Server doesn't handle properly resumption token
14:19 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12970 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Refactor VAT and price calculation - basket page
14:20 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB build #239: FAILURE in 14 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]_U12_MariaDB/239/
14:24 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13728: koha-translate -l -a shows po files instead of language codes <[…]28692a8eeb37fa0a8>
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14:29 oleonard Joubu: I suggest "Changing collation in the database for the 'surname' column of the 'borrowers' table is helpful to make browsing by last name work in when using an alphabet outside of A-Z"
14:30 oleonard I don't like referring to "" but I don't know a better way to say it.
14:31 Joubu oleonard: the patron search?
14:31 oleonard I don't think that is specific enough
14:31 * magnuse does a happydance
14:32 Joubu oleonard: ok, thanks for the suggestion!
14:37 bag morning
14:38 kivilahtio bag: evening
14:38 magnuse bag: HI
14:38 wahanui bidet, magnuse
14:39 bag hello kivilahtio and magnuse HI
14:44 * magnuse has configured his first ever self checkout machine to talk to koha via sip, by way of teamviewer!
14:46 magnuse well, there is more config to be done, but at least books can be checked out
14:47 kivilahtio there is a first time for everything
14:48 kivilahtio magnuse: why do you use TeamViewer?
14:48 kivilahtio whose self-check machines you use?
14:49 tcohen hi bag
14:49 bag morning tcohen
14:50 magnuse kivilahtio: 3m self check and because teamviewer saves me sitting on a plane for 3 hours
14:54 Joubu is master broken?
14:54 chris_n any thoughts on what's up here =>
14:54 Joubu the header at least
14:55 chris_n for whatever reason, a book on hold cannot be checked in on that screen
14:55 Joubu chris_n: because it's too complicated :)
14:55 chris_n works fine using the check-in tool in the header
14:55 chris_n Joubu: LOL
14:55 chris_n probably true
14:55 chris_n also works fine using self-check
14:57 Joubu chris_n: actually all warnings/errors are not managed in the circ/ script, that's why checkin are not allowed there
14:57 Joubu at least, that's what I have understood
14:59 chris_n ahh... so that's expected behavior then
15:00 chris_n even if its not intuitive behavior :-)
15:02 Joubu expected by developpers, yes
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15:34 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
15:34 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
15:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB build #240: FIXED in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]_U12_MariaDB/240/
15:34 jenkins_koha Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 13728: koha-translate -l -a shows po files instead of language codes
15:34 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13728 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , koha-translate -l -a shows po files instead of language codes
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16:35 Joubu ashimema: I have just added 2 commits to the contrib repo for the sandboxes. It is now possible to apply patches from severals bug reports (but not possible to signoff on them). Be care if you update them, you will have to update a DB field (int to varchar)
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18:01 tcohen bye #koha
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18:26 * cait waves
18:27 wnickc hi cait
18:27 cait hi wnickc
18:27 cait airport again... going to be home tonight :)
18:27 wahanui cait: That doesn't look right. Try 'airport code for CITY' or 'airport name for CODE' instead.
18:27 cait @wunder TXL
18:27 huginn cait: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 4.0°C (7:20 PM CET on February 19, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
18:29 drojf cait: what's children of konten? unterkonten?
18:30 cait i think so
18:30 cait at least we have 'Unterkonto hinzufügen' or something like htat
18:30 drojf ok. i forgot my other question :D
18:30 cait saw it today ... i htink on the konten page in the action pull down
18:31 drojf ah, what is hold ratio? i have no idea what that is/does
18:31 drojf but vormerkrate sounds pretty wrong ^^
18:37 oleonard drojf: hold ratio represents the ratio of pending holds to the number of copies the library owns of that title.
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18:40 drojf oleonard: ah, i see. thanks!
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19:44 bag @seen alvet
19:44 huginn bag: alvet was last seen in #koha 5 weeks, 1 day, 17 hours, 24 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <alvet> hi wizzyrea :)
20:20 wizzyrea unterkonten is a strange looking word
20:27 drojf we have a lot of those in german ;)
20:37 Dyrcona Schololadepuddingsfabriklandsgearbeiter!
20:37 wizzyrea \o/
20:37 Dyrcona Oops. Typo.
20:37 Dyrcona Schokolade....
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20:41 drojf heh
20:43 wnickc I always like fingerspitzengefühl
21:06 eythian hi
21:06 wahanui privet, eythian
21:09 eythian kivilahtio: the secret to having your conference as respected as possible is to bring people from as far away as possible. I might know some...
21:11 drojf heh
21:13 eythian g'morning drojf
21:13 drojf hi eythian. trying to win a trip to finland? :P
21:13 eythian Well, I've never been, so I might as well.
21:15 drojf last time i tried to go there some drunk swedish people stole my backpack with the interrail ticket
21:16 eythian how annoying
21:16 drojf oh yes it was. so i still have to go to finland too
21:16 eythian <-- speaking of Scandinavia
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21:19 drojf lol
21:20 drojf the crying is fantastic :D
21:20 pianohacker *blinks*
21:21 eythian haha
21:28 eythian <-- speaking of pain and suffering, and Australia
21:56 wizzyrea australia seems like one of the most inhospitable places ever.
21:56 eythian and then there's the Australians!
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21:59 wizzyrea >.>
21:59 * wizzyrea notes there's no dcook yet, you're probably safe.
22:01 eythian he's Canadian
22:03 wizzyrea yeah but he's romantically attached to an australian ;)
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22:27 cait hi #koha
22:28 eythian hi cait
22:28 eythian @wunder nzwn
22:28 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (11:00 AM NZDT on February 20, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
22:28 eythian good day for steak
22:30 cait ?
22:32 eythian it's a good day, and it's steak o'clock in an hour.
22:32 eythian it all fits together
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22:35 cait ah
22:39 eythian[…]ex/orthographic=6.34,40.90,671 <-- cait, you've sure got a lot of misery in the misery index over your way
22:39 cait huh?
22:39 eythian it looks cold.
22:39 cait hm it was colder
22:40 cait and i was walking in the sun in berlin for lunch today:)
22:40 eythian heh
22:40 eythian sounds alright
22:41 pianohacker that is _so pretty_
22:41 eythian you can change all manner of things too, it's quite interesting
22:42 bag heya cait
22:42 cait hi bag
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22:42 bag heya tcohen
22:43 tcohen hi bag!
22:43 bag there was talk of steak-o-clock - I figured you’d show up soon tcohen
22:43 bag heh
22:43 tcohen heheh
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22:43 * tcohen is planning a small asado for cecilia right now
22:44 bag noice
22:44 cait :)
22:44 * bag is getting ready to signoff on bug 11603
22:44 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11603 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Gather print notices: add csv and ods export
22:44 bag me thinkg
22:44 bag doh thinks
22:45 bag tcohen: I took a BBQ class this weekend from this person
22:45 eythian hi papa
22:45 bag I’ve been practicing everyday since - doing a rack of ribs a day
22:45 tcohen !!!! looks great
22:46 bag getting good at the american pit style
22:46 bag I’ll have to practice on some open flames so I can invite you up here :)
22:48 * eythian -> steak
22:50 bag worng bug :P  ok enough steak talk - I’m easily distracted when steak talks surfaces
22:50 bag heh
22:53 pianohacker unrelated; I'm doing a git tutorial tonight at the campus linux user's group, and after the setup/collaboration phases I'm doing a section on more advanced stuff. I have rebase -i, add -p, stash, reflog, git-svn... anything else you all can think of?
22:53 cait the basic stuff already has git blame, git log and those?
22:53 cait git bisect is pretty cool
22:53 papa hi there!
22:54 cait hi papa
22:54 pianohacker yup yup. bisect's a good addition, thanks
22:54 bag git blame is always fun :)
22:54 cait hm git rebase --onto?
22:54 bag git cherry-pick
22:54 wahanui i guess git cherry-pick is slightly less useful for most people.
22:55 pianohacker pfft. but both still worth mentioning, I use rebase --onto a lot
22:55 pianohacker tcohen: anything you can think of as an RM? :)
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22:55 cait git clean?
22:56 pianohacker good idea
22:56 bag hmm git clean - /me looks that up
22:57 cait getting rid of things that should not be in your repo directory :)
22:57 bag yeah - that’s cool (files that away)
22:58 pianohacker I'd really like to learn rerere at some point, but that's deep magic
22:58 wizzyrea reflog has saved my ass so many times.
22:59 pianohacker I might mention that in the beginning section while the freshmen are paying attention :)
22:59 tcohen branch-oriented use of git
22:59 tcohen branching merging
22:59 wizzyrea oh man, keeping your master clean is a great lesson
22:59 wizzyrea aliases?
22:59 wahanui aliases are already set up even, afaik
23:00 tcohen the benefits of rebasing, and cherry-picking
23:00 wizzyrea git aliases are great.
23:00 tcohen my colleages enjoyed a lot
23:00 tcohen a talk I gave them
23:00 pianohacker got aliases, but I'll see if I can encourage them to use branches as much as possible
23:00 wizzyrea for example, I have one
23:00 tcohen about thinking of tyhe git database as a graph
23:00 pianohacker I don't think there's any svn refugees to help unlearn
23:01 wizzyrea qa = !sh -c 'git checkout master && git fetch origin && git rebase origin/master && git checkout -b qa-$1 && git bz apply $1' -
23:01 tcohen so if you have a couple remotes fetched, they share some nodes
23:01 pianohacker ooh, that is fancy
23:01 wizzyrea so I do git qa xxxxx and it updates my master, checks out a new branch, and applies the patch
23:01 tcohen and that you can have dangling stuff
23:01 tcohen so the need for a garbadge collector!
23:01 * wizzyrea patched the devbox to have that
23:01 pianohacker tcohen: that does sound cool. Have you seen git-relink? stumbled on it the other day while researching for this
23:02 pianohacker here's my current favorite alias (seems to have a minor bug with add/delete conflicts, FYI): edit-conflicts = !vim $(git status --porcelain | egrep '^UU |^AA ' | cut -b 4-)
23:03 * tcohen will try it!
23:03 tcohen the point of my talk, was thinking of how to think data recovery if you accidentally delete commits
23:04 pianohacker tcohen: commits no longer reachable from a branch, or gc'd and deleted commits?
23:04 tcohen no longer reachable
23:05 pianohacker cool
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23:49 bag @later tell bag - get your VM uptodate before hackfest
23:49 huginn bag: The operation succeeded.
23:49 bag thanks dood

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