Time  Nick         Message
00:06 rangi        hey Francesca
00:06 wahanui      I love the 11th doctor!
00:06 Francesca    I finally fixed the nav issue on the scoreboard page
00:07 Francesca    do you want a footer on the page btw?
00:19 dcook        Hmm
00:19 dcook        Does koha-translate install translations for both the OPAC and the staff client?
00:19 dcook        It only lists PO files for the OPAC...
00:21 dcook        It looks like it'll install both...
00:23 rangi        i think it does both
00:23 eythian      it should do both
00:23 eythian      bit it only lists one, because otherwise it'll be confusing
00:25 dcook        I suppose it might make more sense just to list the language code
00:25 dcook        But *shrug*
00:58 Francesca    rangi: if you're there I just pushed some changes up and sent a merge request
00:59 rangi        looking now
01:01 Francesca    I tested the changes in xammp, so they should actually work this time fingers crossed
01:04 rangi        http://scoreboard.koha-community.org/
01:04 rangi        looking good
01:04 Francesca    that link directed me to the academy scoreboard??
01:05 rangi        yep thats what you were changing wasnt it?
01:05 Francesca    nope. The one I was working on, when I had it running via xampp had all your guys names on it
01:06 rangi        yeah thats the same one
01:06 Francesca    also my changes dont seem to show up on the page I just opened so kinda confused
01:06 rangi        your copy just has old data
01:06 Francesca    hmmm
01:07 Francesca    do I need to clear the cache or something to see the changes show up?
01:07 rangi        but that is definitely different from before i merged your changes
01:07 rangi        it didnt have the links in the grey area before
01:08 Francesca    the page I'm looking at doesnt have a menu at all
01:08 rangi        maybe shift refresh
01:08 Francesca    or ok
01:08 rangi        its showing fine for me
01:09 rangi        wizzyrea: can you see a menu link to jenkins etc at  http://scoreboard.koha-community.org/  ?
01:09 Francesca    ah well
01:09 wizzyrea     yep
01:10 Francesca    ah there we go
01:10 rangi        cool
01:10 Francesca    I just still have the old data but at least the changes are showing up now
01:11 rangi        yep, it shouldnt matter, that just shows the last hackfest .. ill be updating the data (that all lives in the scores.txt file) in march
01:11 Francesca    Do you think the page needs a footer? I was going to put one in, but wasn't sure what I'd put in the footer
01:11 rangi        hmm yeah not sure
01:12 Francesca    ah well
01:12 Francesca    I could just leave it off for now
01:12 Francesca    or stick a date in the footer
01:13 rangi        oh a date is a good idea
01:13 rangi        if you could figure out with some js how to get it showing the date the last time the file was modified?
01:13 Francesca    sweet I'll go add that now
01:13 Francesca    oh I dont think I know how to do that
01:13 rangi        then people will know when the score board was last updated
01:13 rangi        im pretty sure google will know :)
01:14 Francesca    yeah I'll go look it up
01:14 rangi        (i dont either)
01:19 Francesca    right, I figured out how to do it with a button
01:19 Francesca    now gotta figure how to get it to display without the button
01:23 Francesca    yus done it
01:26 rangi        cool
01:34 Francesca    well the dates gonna be a bit funny
01:34 Francesca    its using month/day/time instead of day/month/time
01:36 eythian      that's inhuman
01:37 eythian      nothing should not be using ISO8601
01:37 eythian      http://xkcd.com/1179/
01:37 wizzyrea     I... you... just used a double negative.
01:38 eythian      yeah right
01:38 * wizzyrea   shakes fist
01:38 wizzyrea     the hovertext makes me want to claw my eyes out.
01:39 eythian      yep
01:40 Francesca    rangi: just sent a merge request
01:42 rangi        how's that
01:47 wizzyrea     looks like it works to me
01:52 Francesca    its working but is that the date you want?
01:53 Francesca    I mean like I think it may change the date everyday regardless of wether the page was modified or not
01:53 wizzyrea     it's documentModified, I think it should be alright
01:53 Francesca    ok
01:53 rangi        yeah the time isnt changing
01:53 Francesca    I'll leave like it is then
01:53 Francesca    I found a reallly long complicated way of doing it on stackoverflow
01:53 wizzyrea     oops.
01:54 Francesca    rangi: there anything else that needs doing to that page?
01:54 Francesca    Or should I go and look for another webpage to work on
01:54 rangi        hmm i cant think of anything, anyone else?
01:56 Francesca    maybe I'll go and fiddle around some more on the dashboard
02:00 rangi        yeah theres new stuff on there
02:00 Francesca    question: whats the file called? I have the folder cloned but have no idea what file I actually need to edit
02:01 rangi        hmm? for the dashboard?
02:01 rangi        do a git log
02:01 rangi        and find a commit you did
02:01 rangi        then do a git show the commit id
02:01 rangi        eg
02:02 Francesca    I haven't actually commited anything on dashboard since I cloned it
02:02 rangi        yeah but the log will still have the stuff you did last time
02:02 Francesca    the last time I did work on it was back at the academy
02:02 rangi        yep
02:03 rangi        still there
02:03 Francesca    and that was just css using the pastebot
02:03 Francesca    wow
02:03 Francesca    ok I'll look
02:04 rangi        looks like lots of public/assets/css/local.css
02:04 Francesca    hmm yeah
02:04 Francesca    ok
02:04 rangi        and views/show_entries.tt
02:05 Francesca    show-entires is the page that shows up in the browser?
02:05 rangi        yep
02:06 Francesca    sweet
02:07 Francesca    btw I should be getting a new computer in the next few weeks.
02:07 Francesca    I'll need to come in and get set up with a virtual machine again
02:07 rangi        awesome!
02:07 wahanui      That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, rangi
02:09 Francesca    I'll let you know and you can tell me when the best time to come in is?
02:10 rangi        sounds good!
02:11 Francesca    sweet
02:11 Francesca    having a vm running should hopefully make this waaay easier
02:11 Francesca    though I'll be sorry not to be able to use notepad ++ anymore
02:12 Francesca    it doesnt run on mac or linux
02:13 rangi        try atom
02:13 rangi        if you want something like notepad++
02:13 rangi        https://atom.io/
02:17 Francesca    looks cool
02:17 Francesca    I shall give it a try
02:23 Francesca    I start uni in a week or so, so I'll properly be limited to only coming on here tuesdays for a bit
02:24 Francesca    which is what we worked out anyways
02:24 rangi        yep, sounds good
05:35 bag          good evening
05:56 dcook        Someone might want to look at koha-remove and koha-restore...
05:56 dcook        I'll look again at some point, but getting lots of errors when trying to do a koha-restore
05:57 dcook        Well, warnings that say they're errors
06:42 kivilahtio   eythian: :( I know
06:50 kivilahtio   @later tell drojf, we are working on it. We are hosting a conference for everybody interested in Koha. It is aimed towards  library users instead of technical users. On thursday we are having english speaking presentations and friday is Finnish speaking presentations. This is based on the presumption that we will garner the biggest interest domestically and maybe attract a few foreign visitors + speakers. We are trying to boost Koha's credibility
06:50 kivilahtio   and viability as an alternative for the Finnish public libraries.
06:50 huginn       kivilahtio: The operation succeeded.
07:03 * magnuse    waves
07:07 kivilahtio   hi mag!
07:13 magnuse      hi kiv!
07:14 magnuse      @wunder boo
07:14 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (7:50 AM CET on February 19, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.15 in 987 hPa (Steady).
07:14 magnuse      @wunder marseille
07:14 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Saint Victoret, France is 2.3°C (8:13 AM CET on February 19, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Steady).
07:14 magnuse      hah!
07:20 bag          ha
07:20 bag          HI magnuse
07:20 magnuse      bag: HI
07:21 magnuse      adapting to cet again?
07:30 bag          I guess so
07:37 magnuse      bag: when do you arrive in marseille? sunday?
07:38 bag          sunday
07:38 bag          leave saturday
07:42 magnuse      cool
07:48 magnuse      bag: if your family needs some tips on things to do i might have some :-)
07:48 bag          yes that would be cool
07:48 bag          Sonja would love that
07:51 marcelr      hi #koha
07:53 bag          hello
07:53 wahanui      que tal, bag
07:53 magnuse      bag: i'll have a think about it and send you an email
07:53 bag          cool thanks !
07:59 alex_a       bonjour
07:59 wahanui      hi, alex_a
08:02 fridolin     hie
08:24 Joubu        Hello #koha!
08:25 drojf        good morning #koha
08:26 tomk         mornin drojf and hey Joubu
08:31 drojf        hej tomk
09:12 Joubu        @later tell tcohen, be care, bug 12976 is *not* in master
09:12 huginn       Joubu: The operation succeeded.
09:21 Joubu        @later tell tcohen, be care, bug 12970 is *not* in master
09:21 huginn       Joubu: The operation succeeded.
09:51 kivilahtio   is there a limit with Zebra, where you only find say, 1000 results?
09:51 kivilahtio   Like the SQL LIMIT-clause?
09:54 Joubu        kivilahtio: maybe explain-biblios.xml:    <!-- <setting type="maximumRecords">1000</setting> -->
09:54 Joubu        ?
09:54 kivilahtio   Joubu: thanks, but not what I am looking for
09:54 Joubu        @later tell mtj: please have a look at bug 3186
09:54 huginn       Joubu: The operation succeeded.
09:55 kivilahtio   Joubu: I'll just limit usinghte current year :)
09:56 kivilahtio   Too bad I cannot make a search like ccl=datereceived>2015-01-01 even thought datereceived is indexed as a datereceived:d (Date?)
10:12 drojf        thanks for the info about the conference, kivilahtio. found it in the log, the @later did not find me :D
10:13 kivilahtio   drojf: sorry to hear that
10:13 drojf        does not matter :)
10:13 kivilahtio   I think I have more final information during the hackfest
10:15 bigbrovar    Hi guys .. am running koha 3.16 (using debian 7 packages) however I am unable to get ldap authentication working I have setup the ldap paremeters in /etc/koha/site/opac/koha-conf.xml http://paste.ubuntu.com/10303467/  however when I do a perl opac-user.pl userid=foo password=passwd > /tmp/junk.txt I get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/10303468/
10:15 wahanui      Hmm.  No matches for that, bigbrovar.
10:16 drojf        kivilahtio: I'd love a trip to finland, don't speak finnish though ;) not sure about the travel budget either, but it sounds nice
10:16 bigbrovar    should add that ldap auth with dspace 5 works
10:16 kivilahtio   We are going to Koli, a national reserve closeby during the Saturday
10:16 kivilahtio   drojf: So a bit of hiking and walking and not sure what we come up as well
10:17 drojf        sounds lovely
10:45 magnuse      drojf, kivilahtio: i think most people in finland speak som level of english? (much like norway)
10:48 kivilahtio   there definetely wont be a language barrier
10:48 * magnuse    has been to finland 2 or 3 times and never had a problem with the language
10:48 drojf        oh i did not expect there to be one, just for the friday talks held in finnish ;)
10:49 magnuse      ah
10:50 kivilahtio   we can do other cool Koha stuff on friday in a smaller group. We were hoping for people from Stocholm and Oslo to visit us and we could have a shadow conference of sorts
10:50 drojf        i'll try to find out in march if it is an option for me to come, would be nice
10:50 kivilahtio   happy to hear that!
10:51 tomk         When, where? :)
10:51 kivilahtio   later tell dro
10:51 kivilahtio   we are working on it. We are hosting a conference for everybody interested in Koha. It is aimed towards  library users instead of technical users. On thursday we are having english speaking presentations and friday is Finnish speaking presentations. This is based on the presumption that we will garner the biggest interest domestically and maybe attract a few foreign visitors + speakers. We are trying to boost Koha's credibility and viability as
10:51 kivilahtio   an alternative for the Finnish public libraries.
10:51 kivilahtio   21-22.5.2015
10:52 kivilahtio   Joensuu, Finland
10:53 tomk         Oh! Great stuff, kivilahtio
10:54 kivilahtio   tomk: It is a lot of stuff, luckily we have some hired help
11:33 drojf        if i would want to play with ldap a little… what should i get? openldap?
12:31 tcohen       morning!
12:46 tcohen       Joubu: it seems that I typed 12976 instead of 12975 on git-bz when marking the patches pushed. Sorry for that.
12:54 tcohen       @later tell rangi it seems jenkins is not sending emails for regressions to authors
12:54 huginn       tcohen: The operation succeeded.
13:04 Joubu        tcohen: hi
13:04 Joubu        same problem for 12970
13:05 tcohen       i don't get it
13:05 tcohen       i'm pretty sure I pushed it
13:05 tcohen       :/
13:05 tcohen       i mean, i can make mistakes
13:06 tcohen       but I follow the same workflow daily... and this is more than an statistical error
13:13 tcohen       Joubu: I'm sorry for the inconvenience
13:13 Joubu        tcohen: no problem :)
13:13 * tcohen     heads to the office kitchen to get a big mug of coffee
13:13 tcohen       *sigh
13:13 Joubu        Maybe you should double check the others bug you pushed that day :)
13:14 tcohen       definitely
13:14 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12970: Fix the footer if several tax rate exist <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b5721e8758d8fa002a5006ef828cdbe48ce1ec64> / Bug 12970: Cancelled orders <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=82a100abb56a19d9eb6610ccf677759dd3a99376> / Bug 12970: Format totals <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7e94b04eabdbb4877bb53eddb4750fd9ba594d5
13:17 tcohen       Joubu: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?bug_status=Pushed%20to%20Master&chfield=bug_status&chfieldfrom=2015-01-08&chfieldto=2015-01-09&chfieldvalue=Pushed%20to%20master&list_id=122218&query_format=advanced
13:17 tcohen       :-/
13:18 tcohen       13001 is pushed, so something went wrong with the other two
13:18 Joubu        tcohen: thanks
13:25 oleonard     @wunder 45701
13:25 huginn       oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is -17.7°C (8:25 AM EST on February 19, 2015). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -20.0°C. Windchill: -18.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Falling).  Wind Chill Advisory in effect until 1 am EST Friday... 
13:26 oleonard     @wunder mcmurdo
13:26 huginn       oleonard: The current temperature in McMurdo Station, McMurdo, Antarctica is -5.7°C (2:26 AM NZDT on February 20, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: -999%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 28.96 in 981 hPa (Falling).
13:27 oleonard     Well at least the humidity here isn't -999%.
13:27 magnuse      ouch!
13:27 magnuse      wunder boo
13:28 magnuse      @wunder boo
13:28 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (2:20 PM CET on February 19, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.12 in 986 hPa (Falling).
13:28 magnuse      nort of the arctic circle, baby!
13:30 * oleonard   will have to wait until Saturday for Norway-like weather
13:37 oleonard     Zebra doesn't use MARC's nonfiling characters indicator for sorting does it?
13:39 ashimema_    is it just me or are the charges and charges total just plain wrong in the circulation checkouts table?
13:40 ashimema_    I'm sure the total is showing the total fines under the charges column, but the charges data above in the column are showing actual charges and not fines..
13:40 ashimema_    ?
13:40 * oleonard   shoots his mouth off on Bug 13722 without waiting for the answer
13:40 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13722 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Titles with articles not sorting correctly in lists
13:54 tcohen       hi ashimema_ ! how is it goging?
14:05 magnuse      oleonard: i think koha does very little with indicators at all?
14:09 Joubu        Could a native English speaker confirm the wording on bug 13686 please?
14:09 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13686 trivial, P5 - low, ---, viktor.sarge, Signed Off , Add a hint about collation to the "alphabet" syspref
14:09 Joubu        cc oleonard, ashimema_ ;)
14:19 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
14:19 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
14:19 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #314: FIXED in 45 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/314/
14:19 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12976: Use the centralize VAT and prices calculation - invoice.pl
14:19 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12976: Fix the footer if several tax rate exist
14:19 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12976: Fix some comment in tests
14:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12976 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Refactor VAT and price calculation - invoice page
14:19 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 13712 - Missing newline in DB update 3.19.00.010
14:19 jenkins_koha * Frédéric Demians: Bug 13568 OAI Server doesn't handle properly resumption token
14:19 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12970: Use the centralize VAT and prices calculation - basket.pl
14:19 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12970: Format totals
14:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13712 trivial, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Missing newline in DB update 3.19.00.010
14:19 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12970: Cancelled orders
14:19 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12970: Fix the footer if several tax rate exist
14:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13568 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , OAI Server doesn't handle properly resumption token
14:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12970 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Refactor VAT and price calculation - basket page
14:20 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB build #239: FAILURE in 14 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB/239/
14:24 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13728: koha-translate -l -a shows po files instead of language codes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6b26f8858e5069a2fae21fb28692a8eeb37fa0a8>
14:29 oleonard     Joubu: I suggest "Changing collation in the database for the 'surname' column of the 'borrowers' table is helpful to make browsing by last name work in members-home.pl when using an alphabet outside of A-Z"
14:30 oleonard     I don't like referring to "members-home.pl" but I don't know a better way to say it.
14:31 Joubu        oleonard: the patron search?
14:31 oleonard     I don't think that is specific enough
14:31 * magnuse    does a happydance
14:32 Joubu        oleonard: ok, thanks for the suggestion!
14:37 bag          morning
14:38 kivilahtio   bag: evening
14:38 magnuse      bag: HI
14:38 wahanui      bidet, magnuse
14:39 bag          hello kivilahtio and magnuse HI
14:44 * magnuse    has configured his first ever self checkout machine to talk to koha via sip, by way of teamviewer!
14:46 magnuse      well, there is more config to be done, but at least books can be checked out
14:47 kivilahtio   there is a first time for everything
14:48 kivilahtio   magnuse: why do you use TeamViewer?
14:48 kivilahtio   whose self-check machines you use?
14:49 tcohen       hi bag
14:49 bag          morning tcohen
14:50 magnuse      kivilahtio: 3m self check and because teamviewer saves me sitting on a plane for 3 hours
14:54 Joubu        is master broken?
14:54 chris_n      any thoughts on what's up here => http://snag.gy/QEgyY.jpg
14:54 Joubu        the header at least
14:55 chris_n      for whatever reason, a book on hold cannot be checked in on that screen
14:55 Joubu        chris_n: because it's too complicated :)
14:55 chris_n      works fine using the check-in tool in the header
14:55 chris_n      Joubu: LOL
14:55 chris_n      probably true
14:55 chris_n      also works fine using self-check
14:57 Joubu        chris_n: actually all warnings/errors are not managed in the circ/circulation.pl script, that's why checkin are not allowed there
14:57 Joubu        at least, that's what I have understood
14:59 chris_n      ahh... so that's expected behavior then
15:00 chris_n      even if its not intuitive behavior :-)
15:02 Joubu        expected by developpers, yes
15:34 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
15:34 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
15:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB build #240: FIXED in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB/240/
15:34 jenkins_koha Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 13728: koha-translate -l -a shows po files instead of language codes
15:34 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13728 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , koha-translate -l -a shows po files instead of language codes
15:57 fridolin     bye
16:35 Joubu        ashimema: I have just added 2 commits to the contrib repo for the sandboxes. It is now possible to apply patches from severals bug reports (but not possible to signoff on them). Be care if you update them, you will have to update a DB field (int to varchar)
18:01 tcohen       bye #koha
18:26 * cait       waves
18:27 wnickc       hi cait
18:27 cait         hi wnickc
18:27 cait         airport again... going to be home tonight :)
18:27 wahanui      cait: That doesn't look right. Try 'airport code for CITY' or 'airport name for CODE' instead.
18:27 cait         @wunder TXL
18:27 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 4.0°C (7:20 PM CET on February 19, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
18:29 drojf        cait: what's children of konten? unterkonten?
18:30 cait         i think so
18:30 cait         at least we have 'Unterkonto hinzufügen' or something like htat
18:30 drojf        ok. i forgot my other question :D
18:30 cait         saw it today ... i htink on the konten page in the action pull down
18:31 drojf        ah, what is hold ratio? i have no idea what that is/does
18:31 drojf        but vormerkrate sounds pretty wrong ^^
18:37 oleonard     drojf: hold ratio represents the ratio of pending holds to the number of copies the library owns of that title.
18:40 drojf        oleonard: ah, i see. thanks!
19:44 bag          @seen alvet
19:44 huginn       bag: alvet was last seen in #koha 5 weeks, 1 day, 17 hours, 24 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <alvet> hi wizzyrea :)
20:20 wizzyrea     unterkonten is a strange looking word
20:27 drojf        we have a lot of those in german ;)
20:37 Dyrcona      Schololadepuddingsfabriklandsgearbeiter!
20:37 wizzyrea     \o/
20:37 Dyrcona      Oops. Typo.
20:37 Dyrcona      Schokolade....
20:38 * Dyrcona    vanishes.
20:41 drojf        heh
20:43 wnickc       I always like fingerspitzengefühl
21:06 eythian      hi
21:06 wahanui      privet, eythian
21:09 eythian      kivilahtio: the secret to having your conference as respected as possible is to bring people from as far away as possible. I might know some...
21:11 drojf        heh
21:13 eythian      g'morning drojf
21:13 drojf        hi eythian. trying to win a trip to finland? :P
21:13 eythian      Well, I've never been, so I might as well.
21:15 drojf        last time i tried to go there some drunk swedish people stole my backpack with the interrail ticket
21:16 eythian      how annoying
21:16 drojf        oh yes it was. so i still have to go to finland too
21:16 eythian      http://youtu.be/MuvUaFp_qMQ <-- speaking of Scandinavia
21:19 drojf        lol
21:20 drojf        the crying is fantastic :D
21:20 pianohacker  *blinks*
21:21 eythian      haha
21:28 eythian      http://youtu.be/33H93Rlzk2w <-- speaking of pain and suffering, and Australia
21:56 wizzyrea     australia seems like one of the most inhospitable places ever.
21:56 eythian      and then there's the Australians!
21:59 wizzyrea     >.>
21:59 * wizzyrea   notes there's no dcook yet, you're probably safe.
22:01 eythian      he's Canadian
22:03 wizzyrea     yeah but he's romantically attached to an australian ;)
22:27 cait         hi #koha
22:28 eythian      hi cait
22:28 eythian      @wunder nzwn
22:28 huginn       eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (11:00 AM NZDT on February 20, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
22:28 eythian      good day for steak
22:30 cait         ?
22:32 eythian      it's a good day, and it's steak o'clock in an hour.
22:32 eythian      it all fits together
22:35 cait         ah
22:39 eythian      http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/overlay=misery_index/orthographic=6.34,40.90,671 <-- cait, you've sure got a lot of misery in the misery index over your way
22:39 cait         huh?
22:39 eythian      it looks cold.
22:39 cait         hm it was colder
22:40 cait         and i was walking in the sun in berlin for lunch today:)
22:40 eythian      heh
22:40 eythian      sounds alright
22:41 pianohacker  that is _so pretty_
22:41 eythian      you can change all manner of things too, it's quite interesting
22:42 bag          heya cait
22:42 cait         hi bag
22:42 bag          heya tcohen
22:43 tcohen       hi bag!
22:43 bag          there was talk of steak-o-clock - I figured you’d show up soon tcohen
22:43 bag          heh
22:43 tcohen       heheh
22:43 * tcohen     is planning a small asado for cecilia right now
22:44 bag          noice
22:44 cait         :)
22:44 * bag        is getting ready to signoff on bug 11603
22:44 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11603 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Gather print notices: add csv and ods export
22:44 bag          me thinkg
22:44 bag          doh thinks
22:45 bag          tcohen: I took a BBQ class this weekend from this person http://www.slapyodaddybbq.com/
22:45 eythian      hi papa
22:45 bag          I’ve been practicing everyday since - doing a rack of ribs a day
22:45 tcohen       !!!! looks great
22:46 bag          getting good at the american pit style
22:46 bag          I’ll have to practice on some open flames so I can invite you up here :)
22:48 * eythian    -> steak
22:50 bag          worng bug :P  ok enough steak talk - I’m easily distracted when steak talks surfaces
22:50 bag          heh
22:53 pianohacker  unrelated; I'm doing a git tutorial tonight at the campus linux user's group, and after the setup/collaboration phases I'm doing a section on more advanced stuff. I have rebase -i, add -p, stash, reflog, git-svn... anything else you all can think of?
22:53 cait         the basic stuff already has git blame, git log and those?
22:53 cait         git bisect is pretty cool
22:53 papa         hi there!
22:54 cait         hi papa
22:54 pianohacker  yup yup. bisect's a good addition, thanks
22:54 bag          git blame is always fun :)
22:54 cait         hm git rebase --onto?
22:54 bag          git cherry-pick
22:54 wahanui      i guess git cherry-pick is slightly less useful for most people.
22:55 pianohacker  pfft. but both still worth mentioning, I use rebase --onto a lot
22:55 pianohacker  tcohen: anything you can think of as an RM? :)
22:55 cait         git clean?
22:56 pianohacker  good idea
22:56 bag          hmm git clean - /me looks that up
22:57 cait         getting rid of things that should not be in your repo directory :)
22:57 bag          yeah - that’s cool (files that away)
22:58 pianohacker  I'd really like to learn rerere at some point, but that's deep magic
22:58 wizzyrea     reflog has saved my ass so many times.
22:59 pianohacker  I might mention that in the beginning section while the freshmen are paying attention :)
22:59 tcohen       branch-oriented use of git
22:59 tcohen       branching merging
22:59 wizzyrea     oh man, keeping your master clean is a great lesson
22:59 wizzyrea     aliases?
22:59 wahanui      aliases are already set up even, afaik
23:00 tcohen       the benefits of rebasing, and cherry-picking
23:00 wizzyrea     git aliases are great.
23:00 tcohen       my colleages enjoyed a lot
23:00 tcohen       a talk I gave them
23:00 pianohacker  got aliases, but I'll see if I can encourage them to use branches as much as possible
23:00 wizzyrea     for example, I have one
23:00 tcohen       about thinking of tyhe git database as a graph
23:00 pianohacker  I don't think there's any svn refugees to help unlearn
23:01 wizzyrea     qa = !sh -c 'git checkout master && git fetch origin && git rebase origin/master && git checkout -b qa-$1 && git bz apply $1' -
23:01 tcohen       so if you have a couple remotes fetched, they share some nodes
23:01 pianohacker  ooh, that is fancy
23:01 wizzyrea     so I do git qa xxxxx and it updates my master, checks out a new branch, and applies the patch
23:01 tcohen       and that you can have dangling stuff
23:01 tcohen       so the need for a garbadge collector!
23:01 * wizzyrea   patched the devbox to have that
23:01 pianohacker  tcohen: that does sound cool. Have you seen git-relink? stumbled on it the other day while researching for this
23:02 pianohacker  here's my current favorite alias (seems to have a minor bug with add/delete conflicts, FYI): edit-conflicts = !vim $(git status --porcelain | egrep '^UU |^AA ' | cut -b 4-)
23:03 * tcohen     will try it!
23:03 tcohen       the point of my talk, was thinking of how to think data recovery if you accidentally delete commits
23:04 pianohacker  tcohen: commits no longer reachable from a branch, or gc'd and deleted commits?
23:04 tcohen       no longer reachable
23:05 pianohacker  cool
23:49 bag          @later tell bag - get your VM uptodate before hackfest
23:49 huginn       bag: The operation succeeded.
23:49 bag          thanks dood