IRC log for #koha, 2014-08-21

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00:31 indradg_ Bug 12797
00:31 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12797 trivial, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, NEW , The wiki needs a new category 3.16 under "Koha Versions"
00:49 wizzyrea indradg_ which article were you wanting to tag 3.16?
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01:19 wizzyrea well anyway, to put something in a category like that, you simply put[…]rch=Category:3.16 at the bottom. Or it should be in the list now.
01:20 wizzyrea umm no
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02:41 wizzyrea that is not at all what I typed in :P
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02:56 mtj heya wiz
02:56 mtj peeps, is the 'dontmerge' syspref, basically a performance option?
02:58 mtj ie: have authorites changes happen in realtime, or have then happen nightly?
02:59 mtj ... via cron
03:01 dcook mtj: As far as I know, I think it's a performance option
03:01 dcook Like you describe
03:19 mtj ta dcook
03:19 mtj ive had a hoon and attempted to fix the doco on the 'dontmerge' syspref
03:20 mtj 12791
03:20 mtj bug 12791
03:20 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12791 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , 'dontmerge' syspref has confusing/incorrect usage description
03:20 mtj bug 12798
03:20 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12798 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, NEW , 'dontmerge' syspref has incorrect usage description, in manual
03:22 mtj its well fking confusing
03:31 mtj ...i'm hoping that my assumptions in both bugs are correct :0)
03:54 eythian @wunder nzwn
03:54 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (3:30 PM NZST on August 21, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
04:04 wizzyrea weird day for weather.
04:06 eythian yeah, feeling like 2° isn't the nicest.
04:08 wizzyrea more this whole "it's brightly sunny! Now it's sulking rain!" thing it's been doing.
04:08 eythian yeah, that's a bit unusal
04:09 wizzyrea but 2 is properly cold.
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05:17 dcook That moment when you realize that you already lunch, but you want a second lunch or an early supper...(and a normal supper too of course)
05:17 * dcook occasionally misses the food from Kohacon13 :p
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05:41 * magnuse waves
05:42 dcook heya magnuse and cait :)
05:43 magnuse @wunder boo
05:43 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0°C (7:20 AM CEST on August 21, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady).
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06:26 marcelr hi #koha
06:27 dcook yo marcelr
06:28 marcelr hi dcook
06:28 magnuse hiya marcelr
06:28 marcelr and magnuse
06:28 wahanui i guess magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
06:33 dcook mmm pizza
06:36 * magnuse seconds that emotion
06:39 cait stop talking about pizza1 :)
06:39 * dcook wonders why his download is getting to 99% and not completing...
06:39 dcook Not that I'm downloading pizza
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06:40 * dcook wishes he were
06:40 reiveune hello
06:40 wahanui bidet, reiveune
06:40 dcook Finally!
06:41 cait dcook: stop talking pizza1 :)
06:41 dcook Don't know why that last 1% took forever...
06:41 dcook cait: But I like pizza :)
06:41 dcook And I'm so hungry...
06:41 magnuse dcook: isn't it always like that? getting the last little bits of a project done are the hardest...
06:42 dcook Totes
06:42 dcook Especially when you're using Java
06:43 * dcook hits enter and sees if the project will finally build
06:50 dcook Ahh, I think I know what I did there..
06:51 dcook Drr
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07:40 cait hmpf
07:40 cait bug 12800
07:40 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12800 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Can't access MARC bibliographic frameworks
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07:43 magnuse ouch
07:46 cait had to revert it in order to test this patch
07:46 cait that i am working on... everywhere i went it exploded
07:52 magnuse cait: revert bug 11842?
07:52 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11842 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , MARC framework editing is broken when memcache is enabled
07:52 cait yeeah
07:53 magnuse yikes
07:53 Joubu cait: I don't get the error :-/
07:53 cait maybe it#s something in my setup :(
07:53 cait i tihnk it must be or this would have shown up earlier in testing
07:53 cait but i don't know where to look
07:54 cait i haven't set up caching to my knowledge - where would that be done?
07:55 Joubu apache config file
07:55 cait hmm
07:55 cait i can take a look at mine
07:55 cait SetEnv MEMCACHED_SERVERS ""
07:55 cait SetEnv MEMCACHED_NAMESPACE ""
07:56 cait for both staff and opac
07:56 Joubu grep -r sharefile /etc/apache2/sites-available $KOHA_CONF ?
07:57 cait pasting without any changes?
07:57 cait brings up nothing
07:58 cait also grep -r sharefile /etc/apache2/sites-available/koha.conf
07:58 cait - nothing
07:58 Joubu cait: you can try to remove libcache-fastmmap-perl
07:59 cait with apt-get?
07:59 Joubu cait: yep
07:59 cait waiting for it
08:00 cait Joubu: can access the pages now
08:01 Joubu cait: fastmmap was certainly badly configured. I never used it
08:01 cait should it still explode when i reinstall it?
08:02 Joubu cait: Cache::FastMmap is not required, so I suppose it is not installed by default
08:03 Joubu cait: If I remember correctly, the installer ask if you want to install a caching system
08:03 Joubu so if you answer yes, you should configure it correctly
08:04 cait hm
08:04 cait but i think just having the module installed... hsould not make it explode?
08:05 Joubu Koha::Cache just checks if the module is installed. If yes, it tries to use it
08:05 cait hmm
08:05 Joubu cait: 167         'share_file'  => "/tmp/sharefile-koha-$self->{'namespace'}",
08:05 Joubu ok, the "sharefile" I was searching for is in the code
08:05 cait i try to reinstall it
08:06 cait hm broken again
08:06 cait i think this is not critical, but still kind of buggy
08:06 Joubu cait: remove /tmp/sharefile-koha-*
08:06 Joubu (should be the same but...)
08:08 cait also good now
08:09 cait i have downgraded the bug and added comments
08:09 cait not sure if it should be closed
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08:11 saa i am not getting my opac working when i ran koha-rebuild-zebra i got error Smartmatch is experimental at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 535.
08:11 saa what could be wrong here
08:12 Joubu saa: it's not an error, just a warning. You can ignore it.
08:12 cait Joubu++ thx for your help
08:12 saa but i am not getting any results
08:14 magnuse Joubu++
08:14 * magnuse wanders off for a bit
08:17 cait saa: it's most likely unrelated
08:18 saa hw can i test
08:18 saa verify
08:20 cait which version of koha did you install and how?
08:20 saa through packages
08:21 saa 3.16.2
08:22 cait and you cataloged records already?
08:22 saa yes
08:22 saa [cgi:error] [pid 4915] [client] AH01215: [Thu Aug 21 08:17:49 2014] Smartmatch is experimental at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 535., referer: http://localhost:9000/cgi-bin/[…]pl?idx=ti&q=radio [Thu Aug 21 08:17:49.252198 2014] [cgi:error] [pid 4915] [client] AH01215: [Thu Aug 21 08:17:49 2014] Smartmatch is experimental at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/ line 363
08:22 saa is the opac error
08:27 cait yes, but it's not an error
08:27 cait it's a warning
08:27 saa oh k
08:28 cait how do you run koha-rebuild-zebra?
08:28 saa through library-koha@localhost:koha-rebuild-zebra -f library
08:30 cait hm
08:30 cait you should run it with sudo i think
08:31 cait as the root user
08:31 cait i think
09:17 cait Joubu: i am travelling again the next few days - without laptop
09:17 cait will try to test the overdues patch when back
09:17 cait not enough time this morning
09:17 cait but thank you!
09:31 Joubu cait: I didn't test all cases. But looking at the code, it should work as before.
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09:36 * Oak waves
09:36 Oak hello cait
09:36 Oak magnuse
09:44 * cait waves
09:44 cait sorry, have to catch a train :)
09:44 cait bye all
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10:29 indradg @seen wizzyrea
10:29 huginn indradg: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 6 hours, 19 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> but 2 is properly cold.
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10:47 indradg @later tell wizzyrea sorry was asleep, I see you have already done it :) but yeah, I had the installation and newer RFCs coming in, in mind
10:47 huginn indradg: The operation succeeded.
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12:10 oleonard Hi #koha
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12:23 tcohen morning
12:36 magnuse ¡hola tcohen!
12:37 magnuse ...and druthb
12:37 druthb magnuse!
12:37 wahanui somebody said magnuse was afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
12:37 tcohen hi magnuse
12:37 * druthb waves to tcohen.
12:37 tcohen hi druthb
12:38 oleonard The number of bugs we add while magnuse is eating pizza simply reflects the amount of time magnuse spends eating pizza. Simple math.
12:38 gaetan_B is it me or the web installer is buggy with IE? (of course i'd rather not be using IT, but it seems i don't have the choice right now...)
12:39 gaetan_B i get disconnected everytime i click the "next" button
12:40 * magnuse shoukd maybe be eating less pizza? ;-)
12:41 oleonard magnuse: We don't want those bugs to stay hidden, so you can keep eating pizza
12:41 tcohen more pizza for magnuse please!
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12:56 * magnuse draws a big sigh of relief
12:57 * magnuse would like to mention, just for the record, that he eats other things beside pizza
13:00 marjorie Hi, i'm trying an installation of a server SIP2 and i would know if login id=borrowernumber?
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13:06 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 1561: Typo gut was not good; should be get ! <[…]488d42233843fa52c> / Bug 12784: Patron cannot change his personal details <[…]3ea28b5f3a5d9978e> / Bug 12781: DBIx::Class schema update 08/2014 <[…].git;a=commitdiff
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13:14 jenkins_koha Starting build #66 for job Koha_Docs_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
13:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.12.x build #66: SUCCESS in 20 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]a_Docs_3.12.x/66/
13:14 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update dontmerge preference
13:14 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update authorities with new dontmerge info
13:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #550: FAILURE in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/550/
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13:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.14.x build #80: SUCCESS in 11 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]a_Docs_3.14.x/80/
13:29 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update dontmerge preference
13:29 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update authorities with new dontmerge info
13:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #551: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/551/
13:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #552 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #549 1 day 18 hr ago)
13:47 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
13:47 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
13:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #552: FIXED in 1 min 23 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/552/
13:47 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update dontmerge preference
13:47 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update authorities with new dontmerge info
13:50 khall found what may be a serious bug in Koha::Calendar[…]_bug.cgi?id=12801
13:50 huginn Bug 12801: critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Koha::Calendar is caching holidays for the wrong branch!
13:50 khall tcohen: ^
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14:20 ashimema thats a bit scary khall
14:20 ashimema coulod have nasty affects
14:20 khall yep, found it while trying to use is_holiday in a new feature I'm working on
14:21 khall thought I was taking crazy pills
14:23 ashimema well done narrowing it down
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14:24 tcohen khall: ouch
14:25 tcohen i'm worried about Koha::Cache not working actually
14:25 khall yep, switch to C4::Calendar::isHoliday and everything works fine.
14:25 khall tcohen: this data isn't related to Koha::Cache ( not sure if your on the same thread as me and ashimema )
14:26 khall at least I don't think it is, but I've been known to be wrong once or twice
14:26 tcohen khall: I am, I was just thinking out loud that there's abouther bug that is making some noise in my head
14:26 khall ahh, I see
14:33 tcohen khall: can u think of a regression test for 12371? seems sensible enough to require it
14:36 khall it would be possible, but I expect any future regressions to be in pl files, rather than the pm. We'd have to create a new UT that creates a notice, sets up a couple new patrons, generates the notices,, and check the notices for the correct token
14:36 khall non-trivial for sure
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15:37 tcohen khall: ok
15:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12371 - Links in every patron self-registration email points to a single borrower <[…]795e77738b2fa2827>
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16:06 Joubu khall: I sent a patch on bug 12801
16:06 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12801 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Koha::Calendar is caching holidays for the wrong branch!
16:06 Joubu have to go, bye #koha!
16:30 reiveune bye
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17:17 tcohen @later tell rangi jenkins is building projects too many times
17:17 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
17:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #146: UNSTABLE in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_D7/146/
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18:00 indradg good evening #koha
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18:23 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
18:23 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
18:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #147: FIXED in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_D7/147/
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19:14 WNickC @wunder 05048
19:14 huginn WNickC: The current temperature in Lebanon, New Hampshire is 19.0°C (2:53 PM EDT on August 21, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
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20:23 rangi @later tell tcohen which jobs are running too much?
20:23 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
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20:24 rangi @later tell tcohen i need more info :)
20:24 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
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20:42 * indradg scratching head over "missing" tinymce in git install :
20:42 indradg :-(
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21:13 indradg i'm wondering why in the git and tarball installs the <pluginsdir> is defined inside 'skel' but not so in the .deb package install
21:37 wizzyrea doesn't need to be
21:37 wizzyrea oh pluginsdir
21:37 wizzyrea never mind.
21:37 wahanui Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
21:39 indradg rangi: i'm wondering why in the git and tarball installs the <pluginsdir> is defined inside 'skel' but not so in the .deb package install
21:40 rangi you'd have to ask eythian
21:40 rangi mostly because packages are designed for multiple sites
21:41 rangi with each site having different system user and with different permissions
21:41 rangi they can have a shared plugin dir
21:41 rangi thats dangerous
21:41 indradg @seen eythian
21:41 huginn indradg: eythian was last seen in #koha 17 hours, 32 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <eythian> yeah, that's a bit unusal
21:41 rangi but eythian can probably expand
21:42 indradg rangi: yep... thats what I found out too... in a multi-tenented install, removing the shared plugin has some quirky effect
21:43 rangi its also dangerous, if one user uploads a malicious plugin, it could mess up the others
21:44 indradg but then what I don't get is that plugins syspref is classed under "Enhanced Content", making it very much site specific.. then why not /var/lib/koha/<site>/plugins instead of /var/lib/plugins or /var/lib/koha/plugins
21:45 indradg also without AssignUserID to own the <pluginsdir> apache can't accept the upload
21:45 rangi exactly so you need a dir for each user
21:46 indradg I'm reading the long series of comments in[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7804
21:46 huginn Bug 7804: new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED FIXED, Add Koha Plugin System
21:46 rangi however the plugin system was never built with mult sites in mind
21:46 rangi basically if you are running packages, you should probably just sudo koha-shell instance
21:46 rangi and make the dir
21:47 rangi the last thing we want to do is have plugins on by default
21:47 rangi people will probably disagree with me, but i think security trumps features in this case :)
21:47 indradg I was thinking in terms of having a 'koha-enable-plugins' in /usr/sbin/ just like koha-enable-email and then the site specific syspref
21:48 indradg EnablePlugin
21:48 wizzyrea no I don't think anyone will disagree with that.
21:49 rangi indradg: thats a good idea
21:49 rangi thats a patch id most likely sign off on
21:49 indradg rangi: ++
21:50 indradg I'm also picking up Bug 10105
21:50 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10105 new feature, P5 - low, ---, indradg, ASSIGNED , Gate register module
21:50 indradg need this for a client
21:50 rangi awesome
21:50 indradg the plugins answer well, but not in the current shar
21:50 rangi would be good to have combined stats
21:50 indradg s/shar/shape/
21:51 indradg i've never worked with git before, so please be gentle :)
21:51 indradg i promise I'll learn fast
21:53 rangi have you set up git-bz ?
21:53 rangi that makes adding patches to bugzilla a lot easier
21:59 wizzyrea heaps easier.
22:16 indradg not yet
22:17 indradg was trying it the old-school git way
22:17 indradg Posted Bug 12805
22:17 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12805 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, indradg, In Discussion , Proposed changes to Koha plugins system (.KPZ) structure
22:46 eythian hi
22:47 eythian the reason there is no config for plugins in the .deb koha-conf.xml is because no one has sent a patch to put it there :)
22:47 eythian it'd be totally easy to do, and would be off by default.
22:47 eythian there's an <enable_plugins> that has to be 1 for them to be active.
22:47 eythian wait
22:48 eythian it totally is there
22:48 eythian bug 7804 added it
22:48 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7804 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED FIXED, Add Koha Plugin System
22:49 eythian and it gets put into /var/lib/koha/$name/plugins
22:50 eythian indradg: ^
23:00 indradg eythian: thanks, for the .deb clarification. gmcharlt also told me almost the same thing. but about /var/lib/koha/$name/plugins i'm a little confused
23:01 indradg as up to[…].cgi?id=7804#c106 everyone seems to be talking about <pluginsdir>/var/lib/koha/plugins</pluginsdir>
23:01 huginn Bug 7804: new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED FIXED, Add Koha Plugin System
23:01 indradg eythian: what am I missing here?
23:02 eythian because the package version needs an instance-specific location, whereas the regular koha-conf doesn't care, so uses a central location
23:06 indradg that makes sense
23:13 indradg yep! found it in koha-create-dir -> userdir "$name" "/var/lib/koha/$name/plugins"
23:13 * indradg facepalms :P
23:13 eythian wahanui: facepalm
23:13 wahanui http://buikitty.files.wordpres[…]120202-094434.jpg
23:14 indradg lol
23:15 * dcook always giggles over that facepalm
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23:28 kathryn_ papa were your ears burning? :D
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