Time  Nick         Message
00:31 indradg_     Bug 12797
00:31 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12797 trivial, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, NEW , The wiki needs a new category 3.16 under "Koha Versions"
00:49 wizzyrea     indradg_ which article were you wanting to tag 3.16?
01:19 wizzyrea     well anyway, to put something in a category like that, you simply put http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=Category:3.16 at the bottom. Or it should be in the list now.
01:20 wizzyrea     umm no
02:41 wizzyrea     that is not at all what I typed in :P
02:56 mtj          heya wiz
02:56 mtj          peeps, is the 'dontmerge' syspref, basically a performance option?
02:58 mtj          ie: have authorites changes happen in realtime, or have then happen nightly?
02:59 mtj          ... via cron
03:01 dcook        mtj: As far as I know, I think it's a performance option
03:01 dcook        Like you describe
03:19 mtj          ta dcook
03:19 mtj          ive had a hoon and attempted to fix the doco on the 'dontmerge' syspref
03:20 mtj          12791
03:20 mtj          bug 12791
03:20 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12791 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , 'dontmerge' syspref has confusing/incorrect usage description
03:20 mtj          bug 12798
03:20 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12798 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, NEW , 'dontmerge' syspref has incorrect usage description, in manual
03:22 mtj          its well fking confusing
03:31 mtj          ...i'm hoping that my assumptions in both bugs are correct :0)
03:54 eythian      @wunder nzwn
03:54 huginn       eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (3:30 PM NZST on August 21, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
04:04 wizzyrea     weird day for weather.
04:06 eythian      yeah, feeling like 2° isn't the nicest.
04:08 wizzyrea     more this whole "it's brightly sunny! Now it's sulking rain!" thing it's been doing.
04:08 eythian      yeah, that's a bit unusal
04:09 wizzyrea     but 2 is properly cold.
05:17 dcook        That moment when you realize that you already lunch, but you want a second lunch or an early supper...(and a normal supper too of course)
05:17 * dcook      occasionally misses the food from Kohacon13 :p
05:41 * magnuse    waves
05:42 dcook        heya magnuse and cait :)
05:43 magnuse      @wunder boo
05:43 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0°C (7:20 AM CEST on August 21, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady).
06:26 marcelr      hi #koha
06:27 dcook        yo marcelr
06:28 marcelr      hi dcook
06:28 magnuse      hiya marcelr
06:28 marcelr      and magnuse
06:28 wahanui      i guess magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
06:33 dcook        mmm pizza
06:36 * magnuse    seconds that emotion
06:39 cait         stop talking about pizza1 :)
06:39 * dcook      wonders why his download is getting to 99% and not completing...
06:39 dcook        Not that I'm downloading pizza
06:40 * dcook      wishes he were
06:40 reiveune     hello
06:40 wahanui      bidet, reiveune
06:40 dcook        Finally!
06:41 cait         dcook: stop talking pizza1 :)
06:41 dcook        Don't know why that last 1% took forever...
06:41 dcook        cait: But I like pizza :)
06:41 dcook        And I'm so hungry...
06:41 magnuse      dcook: isn't it always like that? getting the last little bits of a project done are the hardest...
06:42 dcook        Totes
06:42 dcook        Especially when you're using Java
06:43 * dcook      hits enter and sees if the project will finally build
06:50 dcook        Ahh, I think I know what I did there..
06:51 dcook        Drr
07:40 cait         hmpf
07:40 cait         bug 12800
07:40 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12800 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Can't access MARC bibliographic frameworks
07:43 magnuse      ouch
07:46 cait         had to revert it in order to test this patch
07:46 cait         that i am working on... everywhere i went it exploded
07:52 magnuse      cait: revert bug 11842?
07:52 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11842 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , MARC framework editing is broken when memcache is enabled
07:52 cait         yeeah
07:53 magnuse      yikes
07:53 Joubu        cait: I don't get the error :-/
07:53 cait         maybe it#s something in my setup :(
07:53 cait         i tihnk it must be or this would have shown up earlier in testing
07:53 cait         but i don't know where to look
07:54 cait         i haven't set up caching to my knowledge - where would that be done?
07:55 Joubu        apache config file
07:55 cait         hmm
07:55 cait         i can take a look at mine
07:55 cait         SetEnv MEMCACHED_SERVERS ""
07:55 cait         SetEnv MEMCACHED_NAMESPACE ""
07:56 cait         for both staff and opac
07:56 Joubu        grep -r sharefile /etc/apache2/sites-available $KOHA_CONF ?
07:57 cait         pasting without any changes?
07:57 cait         brings up nothing
07:58 cait         also grep -r sharefile /etc/apache2/sites-available/koha.conf
07:58 cait         - nothing
07:58 Joubu        cait: you can try to remove libcache-fastmmap-perl
07:59 cait         with apt-get?
07:59 Joubu        cait: yep
07:59 cait         waiting for it
08:00 cait         Joubu: can access the pages now
08:01 Joubu        cait: fastmmap was certainly badly configured. I never used it
08:01 cait         should it still explode when i reinstall it?
08:02 Joubu        cait: Cache::FastMmap is not required, so I suppose it is not installed by default
08:03 Joubu        cait: If I remember correctly, the installer ask if you want to install a caching system
08:03 Joubu        so if you answer yes, you should configure it correctly
08:04 cait         hm
08:04 cait         but i think just having the module installed... hsould not make it explode?
08:05 Joubu        Koha::Cache just checks if the module is installed. If yes, it tries to use it
08:05 cait         hmm
08:05 Joubu        cait: 167         'share_file'  => "/tmp/sharefile-koha-$self->{'namespace'}",
08:05 Joubu        ok, the "sharefile" I was searching for is in the code
08:05 cait         i try to reinstall it
08:06 cait         hm broken again
08:06 cait         i think this is not critical, but still kind of buggy
08:06 Joubu        cait: remove /tmp/sharefile-koha-*
08:06 Joubu        (should be the same but...)
08:08 cait         also good now
08:09 cait         i have downgraded the bug and added comments
08:09 cait         not sure if it should be closed
08:11 saa          i am not getting my opac working when i ran koha-rebuild-zebra i got error Smartmatch is experimental at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 535.
08:11 saa          what could be wrong here
08:12 Joubu        saa: it's not an error, just a warning. You can ignore it.
08:12 cait         Joubu++ thx for your help
08:12 saa          but i am not getting any results
08:14 magnuse      Joubu++
08:14 * magnuse    wanders off for a bit
08:17 cait         saa: it's most likely unrelated
08:18 saa          hw can i test
08:18 saa          verify
08:20 cait         which version of koha did you install and how?
08:20 saa          through packages
08:21 saa          3.16.2
08:22 cait         and you cataloged records already?
08:22 saa          yes
08:22 saa          [cgi:error] [pid 4915] [client 127.0.0.1:59534] AH01215: [Thu Aug 21 08:17:49 2014] Search.pm: Smartmatch is experimental at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 535., referer: http://localhost:9000/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=ti&q=radio [Thu Aug 21 08:17:49.252198 2014] [cgi:error] [pid 4915] [client 127.0.0.1:59534] AH01215: [Thu Aug 21 08:17:49 2014] opac-search.pl: Smartmatch is experimental at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-search.pl line 363
08:22 saa          is the opac error
08:27 cait         yes, but it's not an error
08:27 cait         it's a warning
08:27 saa          oh k
08:28 cait         how do you run koha-rebuild-zebra?
08:28 saa          through library-koha@localhost:koha-rebuild-zebra -f library
08:30 cait         hm
08:30 cait         you should run it with sudo i think
08:31 cait         as the root user
08:31 cait         i think
09:17 cait         Joubu: i am travelling again the next few days - without laptop
09:17 cait         will try to test the overdues patch when back
09:17 cait         not enough time this morning
09:17 cait         but thank you!
09:31 Joubu        cait: I didn't test all cases. But looking at the code, it should work as before.
09:36 * Oak        waves
09:36 Oak          hello cait
09:36 Oak          magnuse
09:44 * cait       waves
09:44 cait         sorry, have to catch a train :)
09:44 cait         bye all
10:29 indradg      @seen wizzyrea
10:29 huginn       indradg: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 6 hours, 19 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> but 2 is properly cold.
10:47 indradg      @later tell wizzyrea sorry was asleep, I see you have already done it :) but yeah, I had the installation and newer RFCs coming in, in mind
10:47 huginn       indradg: The operation succeeded.
12:10 oleonard     Hi #koha
12:23 tcohen       morning
12:36 magnuse      ¡hola tcohen!
12:37 magnuse      ...and druthb
12:37 druthb       magnuse!
12:37 wahanui      somebody said magnuse was afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
12:37 tcohen       hi magnuse
12:37 * druthb     waves to tcohen.
12:37 tcohen       hi druthb
12:38 oleonard     The number of bugs we add while magnuse is eating pizza simply reflects the amount of time magnuse spends eating pizza. Simple math.
12:38 gaetan_B     is it me or the web installer is buggy with IE? (of course i'd rather not be using IT, but it seems i don't have the choice right now...)
12:39 gaetan_B     i get disconnected everytime i click the "next" button
12:40 * magnuse    shoukd maybe be eating less pizza? ;-)
12:41 oleonard     magnuse: We don't want those bugs to stay hidden, so you can keep eating pizza
12:41 tcohen       more pizza for magnuse please!
12:56 * magnuse    draws a big sigh of relief
12:57 * magnuse    would like to mention, just for the record, that he eats other things beside pizza
13:00 marjorie     Hi, i'm trying an installation of a server SIP2 and i would know if login id=borrowernumber?
13:06 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 1561: Typo gut was not good; should be get ! <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c8bedf394fced7ceff550ae488d42233843fa52c> / Bug 12784: Patron cannot change his personal details <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eccc2f25a9c8906e56d6f983ea28b5f3a5d9978e> / Bug 12781: DBIx::Class schema update 08/2014 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff
13:14 jenkins_koha Starting build #66 for job Koha_Docs_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
13:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.12.x build #66: SUCCESS in 20 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.12.x/66/
13:14 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update dontmerge preference
13:14 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update authorities with new dontmerge info
13:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #550: FAILURE in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/550/
13:29 jenkins_koha Starting build #80 for job Koha_Docs_3.14.x (previous build: FIXED)
13:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.14.x build #80: SUCCESS in 11 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.14.x/80/
13:29 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update dontmerge preference
13:29 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update authorities with new dontmerge info
13:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #551: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/551/
13:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #552 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #549 1 day 18 hr ago)
13:47 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
13:47 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
13:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #552: FIXED in 1 min 23 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/552/
13:47 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update dontmerge preference
13:47 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update authorities with new dontmerge info
13:50 khall        found what may be a serious bug in Koha::Calendar http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12801
13:50 huginn       04Bug 12801: critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Koha::Calendar is caching holidays for the wrong branch!
13:50 khall        tcohen: ^
14:20 ashimema     thats a bit scary khall
14:20 ashimema     coulod have nasty affects
14:20 khall        yep, found it while trying to use is_holiday in a new feature I'm working on
14:21 khall        thought I was taking crazy pills
14:23 ashimema     well done narrowing it down
14:24 tcohen       khall: ouch
14:25 tcohen       i'm worried about Koha::Cache not working actually
14:25 khall        yep, switch to C4::Calendar::isHoliday and everything works fine.
14:25 khall        tcohen: this data isn't related to Koha::Cache ( not sure if your on the same thread as me and ashimema )
14:26 khall        at least I don't think it is, but I've been known to be wrong once or twice
14:26 tcohen       khall: I am, I was just thinking out loud that there's abouther bug that is making some noise in my head
14:26 khall        ahh, I see
14:33 tcohen       khall: can u think of a regression test for 12371? seems sensible enough to require it
14:36 khall        it would be possible, but I expect any future regressions to be in pl files, rather than the pm. We'd have to create a new UT that creates a notice, sets up a couple new patrons, generates the notices,, and check the notices for the correct token
14:36 khall        non-trivial for sure
15:37 tcohen       khall: ok
15:43 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12371 - Links in every patron self-registration email points to a single borrower <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=608c2505ff6a2572fcc84c8795e77738b2fa2827>
16:06 Joubu        khall: I sent a patch on bug 12801
16:06 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12801 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Koha::Calendar is caching holidays for the wrong branch!
16:06 Joubu        have to go, bye #koha!
16:30 reiveune     bye
17:17 tcohen       @later tell rangi jenkins is building projects too many times
17:17 huginn       tcohen: The operation succeeded.
17:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #146: UNSTABLE in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/146/
18:00 indradg      good evening #koha
18:23 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
18:23 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
18:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #147: FIXED in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/147/
19:14 WNickC       @wunder 05048
19:14 huginn       WNickC: The current temperature in Lebanon, New Hampshire is 19.0°C (2:53 PM EDT on August 21, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
20:23 rangi        @later tell tcohen which jobs are running too much?
20:23 huginn       rangi: The operation succeeded.
20:24 rangi        @later tell tcohen i need more info :)
20:24 huginn       rangi: The operation succeeded.
20:42 * indradg    scratching head over "missing" tinymce in git install :
20:42 indradg      :-(
21:13 indradg      i'm wondering why in the git and tarball installs the <pluginsdir> is defined inside 'skel' but not so in the .deb package install
21:37 wizzyrea     doesn't need to be
21:37 wizzyrea     oh pluginsdir
21:37 wizzyrea     never mind.
21:37 wahanui      Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
21:39 indradg      rangi: i'm wondering why in the git and tarball installs the <pluginsdir> is defined inside 'skel' but not so in the .deb package install
21:40 rangi        you'd have to ask eythian
21:40 rangi        mostly because packages are designed for multiple sites
21:41 rangi        with each site having different system user and with different permissions
21:41 rangi        they can have a shared plugin dir
21:41 rangi        thats dangerous
21:41 indradg      @seen eythian
21:41 huginn       indradg: eythian was last seen in #koha 17 hours, 32 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <eythian> yeah, that's a bit unusal
21:41 rangi        but eythian can probably expand
21:42 indradg      rangi: yep... thats what I found out too... in a multi-tenented install, removing the shared plugin has some quirky effect
21:43 rangi        its also dangerous, if one user uploads a malicious plugin, it could mess up the others
21:44 indradg      but then what I don't get is that plugins syspref is classed under "Enhanced Content", making it very much site specific.. then why not /var/lib/koha/<site>/plugins instead of /var/lib/plugins or /var/lib/koha/plugins
21:45 indradg      also without AssignUserID to own the <pluginsdir> apache can't accept the upload
21:45 rangi        exactly so you need a dir for each user
21:46 indradg      I'm reading the long series of comments in http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7804
21:46 huginn       04Bug 7804: new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED FIXED, Add Koha Plugin System
21:46 rangi        however the plugin system was never built with mult sites in mind
21:46 rangi        basically if you are running packages, you should probably just sudo koha-shell instance
21:46 rangi        and make the dir
21:47 rangi        the last thing we want to do is have plugins on by default
21:47 rangi        people will probably disagree with me, but i think security trumps features in this case :)
21:47 indradg      I was thinking in terms of having a 'koha-enable-plugins' in /usr/sbin/ just like koha-enable-email and then the site specific syspref
21:48 indradg      EnablePlugin
21:48 wizzyrea     no I don't think anyone will disagree with that.
21:49 rangi        indradg: thats a good idea
21:49 rangi        thats a patch id most likely sign off on
21:49 indradg      rangi: ++
21:50 indradg      I'm also picking up Bug 10105
21:50 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10105 new feature, P5 - low, ---, indradg, ASSIGNED , Gate register module
21:50 indradg      need this for a client
21:50 rangi        awesome
21:50 indradg      the plugins answer well, but not in the current shar
21:50 rangi        would be good to have combined stats
21:50 indradg      s/shar/shape/
21:51 indradg      i've never worked with git before, so please be gentle :)
21:51 indradg      i promise I'll learn fast
21:53 rangi        have you set up git-bz ?
21:53 rangi        that makes adding patches to bugzilla a lot easier
21:59 wizzyrea     heaps easier.
22:16 indradg      not yet
22:17 indradg      was trying it the old-school git way
22:17 indradg      Posted Bug 12805
22:17 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12805 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, indradg, In Discussion , Proposed changes to Koha plugins system (.KPZ) structure
22:46 eythian      hi
22:47 eythian      the reason there is no config for plugins in the .deb koha-conf.xml is because no one has sent a patch to put it there :)
22:47 eythian      it'd be totally easy to do, and would be off by default.
22:47 eythian      there's an <enable_plugins> that has to be 1 for them to be active.
22:47 eythian      wait
22:48 eythian      it totally is there
22:48 eythian      bug 7804 added it
22:48 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7804 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED FIXED, Add Koha Plugin System
22:49 eythian      and it gets put into /var/lib/koha/$name/plugins
22:50 eythian      indradg: ^
23:00 indradg      eythian: thanks, for the .deb clarification. gmcharlt also told me almost the same thing. but about /var/lib/koha/$name/plugins i'm a little confused
23:01 indradg      as up to http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7804#c106 everyone seems to be talking about <pluginsdir>/var/lib/koha/plugins</pluginsdir>
23:01 huginn       04Bug 7804: new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED FIXED, Add Koha Plugin System
23:01 indradg      eythian: what am I missing here?
23:02 eythian      because the package version needs an instance-specific location, whereas the regular koha-conf doesn't care, so uses a central location
23:06 indradg      that makes sense
23:13 indradg      yep! found it in koha-create-dir -> userdir "$name" "/var/lib/koha/$name/plugins"
23:13 * indradg    facepalms :P
23:13 eythian      wahanui: facepalm
23:13 wahanui      http://buikitty.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/20120202-094434.jpg
23:14 indradg      lol
23:15 * dcook      always giggles over that facepalm
23:28 kathryn_     papa were your ears burning? :D