IRC log for #koha, 2014-07-03

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00:23 dac Oh, Windows 8. Thou art the buggiest...
00:26 dcook Nothing like a crash to make you restart your browser sans billion tabs
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01:07 dcook rangi: looks like GitStats isn't updating again. The last commit that it's showing is for 2014-06-27, but there have been around 10 pushed in July alone, I think.
01:34 dcook's still morning
01:34 dcook When did that happen?
01:36 rangi hmm ill look
01:37 rangi seems to be working fine
01:37 rangi yeah
01:38 rangi git log tells me latest was Date:   Thu Jun 26 15:03:37 2014 -0400
01:38 rangi which is the one i pushed this morning
01:38 eythian dcook: it's very much afternoon.
01:39 rangi ahhh its the mailmap busting it
01:39 rangi ill fix
01:40 rangi explains why it wasnt merging too
01:49 eythian http://devopsreactions.tumblr.[…]ing-a-split-brain <-- why you shouldn't run two ES instances.
01:49 dcook rangi: Yay!
01:49 dcook eythian: Damn timezones...
01:50 dcook eythian: hehe. I just saw that tumblr this morning thanks to cjh..
01:51 cjh ;)
01:56 rangi dcook:[…]ster/authors.html
02:01 dcook Yay! Thanks, rangi :)
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02:54 bag hey eythian you around?
02:55 rangi he just ducked out
02:55 rangi shouldnt be long
02:55 bag cool
02:55 bag thanks
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03:02 bag @wunder las vegas nv
03:02 huginn bag: The current temperature in MacDonald Ranch, Henderson, Nevada is 38.9°C (8:00 PM PDT on July 02, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Rising). Excessive heat warning in effect until 10 PM PDT this evening below 4000 feet...
03:04 dcook Excessive heat warning?
03:05 * dcook knows nothing of Nevada altitude...
03:05 dcook Except getting a bit sick after leaving Reno...
03:07 bag yeah I was just in Vegas this last weekend for ALA
03:08 bag brutally hot
03:08 bag it was 114 (I think that's the hottest I've ever been in)
03:08 bag @wunder 93101
03:08 huginn bag: The current temperature in Westside (Gillespie), Santa Barbara, California is 17.7°C (8:08 PM PDT on July 02, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
03:08 bag much nicer :)
03:08 dcook 114 is pretty hot..
03:09 dcook I think I did 118 in 2013
03:09 dcook But that was just for a day
03:09 dcook @wunder sydney, australia
03:09 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Matraville, Sydney, New South Wales is 20.8°C (1:05 PM EST on July 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Falling).
03:09 * dcook looks outside
03:09 dcook It does look like a beautiful day...
03:10 rangi @wunder nzwn
03:10 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (3:00 PM NZST on July 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa (Steady).
03:11 * dcook is trying to think of Oz/Nz slang for warm things
03:11 dcook "Woolies"?
03:11 dcook Hope you're rugged up?
03:12 dcook I suppose we'd say "bundle up" in Canada...
03:12 dcook Although -10 is cause for tshirt and shorts in spring...
03:12 bag yeah that's canada for you
03:12 * dcook thinks Saskatchewan should host Kohacon in "spring"
03:12 dcook bag: Yep :)
03:13 dcook I used to think Saskatchewan was about the most hardcore you could get...blistering heat and blistering cold, but we build houses pretty well (or we don't notice the cold as we're numb most of the time)
03:18 eythian bag: yo
03:19 bag heya - bbias
03:19 eythian kk
03:23 bag so eythian browse for ES
03:23 eythian yeah, ES has no easy function (that I've found) to do what we (well, me at least) were thinking of.
03:24 eythian It's good at search, but not good at giving you things that aren't part of your search terms.
03:24 bag I wasn't sure what your questions where...  I thought what we had in the original demo stuff in March was pretty darn good
03:24 bag ah right so not a shelf list
03:24 bag just results
03:25 eythian Yeah. I had faked it for testing purposes by just doing a "startswith" query, but that's not really the same thing.
03:25 bag right and would only work for a little bit
03:25 eythian yep
03:25 eythian However, I've taken the shelf browser idea, and am having a go at implementing something that does a similar thing to that.
03:25 bag alright I'm caught up then
03:25 eythian It's actually not going to be especially complicated.
03:25 bag sweet
03:26 eythian basically, all the fields you care about browsing, when you index you throw all the values into a database table.
03:26 eythian bam, now we have a thing to browse on.
03:26 eythian (a bit more than that, but that's the essence of it :)
03:26 bag so just a bigger table
03:27 bag and can we ISAM that instead of INNODB
03:27 eythian It'll be quite a large table, but will only have a few columns.
03:27 eythian Hmm.
03:27 bag at least for current mysql
03:27 eythian most likely, yes
03:27 eythian It'll depend on whether ISAM allows us the same degree of indexing, but if it does, then sure.
03:27 eythian It won't have any foreign relationships anyway.
03:28 bag so then it can be possible (I think)...
03:28 bag so would that be a build browse indexes at set times?  cronjob
03:28 eythian I think so. It'll also work across search engines, too.
03:29 eythian nah, it'd build the browse index when you add a record normally.
03:29 eythian i.e. as part of rebuild_(zebra|elasticsearch)
03:29 bag ok cool
03:29 bag hmm if you get the browse into a index table - then anyone could develop the display they want off that
03:29 bag that's cool
03:29 eythian yeah
03:30 bag would be nice if we could store it in any database we wanted instead of just the koha database
03:31 eythian yeah. I'd put it in ES, but there's no way to say "give me this record and the five next ordered by this"
03:31 eythian (without adding a number to the records yourself, but that means reindexing the whole lot to add one in the middle.)
03:32 bag :P
03:32 dcook Pssst
03:32 eythian hush dcook
03:32 dcook hehe
03:32 eythian we don't care about zebra :)
03:32 dcook :(
03:33 eythian I mean zebras are all "we just want to be like pandas, cos pandas are cool, but we're more like horses"
03:33 dcook If we're keeping Zebra around for a z39.50 server, why not keep it around for a browser as well? :p
03:34 dcook I suppose the z39.50 server could be updated fairly rarely
03:34 dcook The browser not so much..
03:34 * dcook wishes eythian luck in any case
03:34 eythian dcook: because in the short span of 50 years time, SRU and such will eat z39.50's lunch :)
03:34 * dcook ponders
03:34 dcook I think SRU uses CQL, and ZOOM can use CQL.
03:35 dcook I suppose that's not the same thing at all though, lol
03:35 dcook Durrr
03:35 dcook Because ZOOM would still be using z39.50..
03:35 dcook I would say it must be Monday if it weren't Thursday
03:36 dcook Hmm
03:36 dcook Actually, ZOOM can use SRU/SRW instead of Z39.50
03:36 dcook I suppose the ZOOM acronym would just be a bit...misleading
03:37 eythian yeah :)
03:37 dcook zebrasrv can also use SRU
03:38 dcook Actually, I had a peak at CQL seems to much nicer than CCL...
03:38 dcook seems so*
03:38 * dcook didn't mean to butt into the eythian/bag dialogue :p
03:38 dcook Well, I did, but only briefly
03:39 bag no worries that's why we talked here dcook - so others can have input too
03:40 eythian But anyway, hopefully my approach will be generally useful. I guess you could replace it with a special provider if your search backend can handle it for you.
03:40 dcook Oh yeah..
03:41 dcook eythian: I had shot off an email to the DSpace folks asking how they did their browse with Solr, but got nothing in response :/
03:42 eythian hmm, it'd be good to know.
03:42 dcook I think that they put it in a browse index in Solr and use a value that they have to update each time they reindex...but I would rather have the confirmation
03:43 dcook It's been too long since I played around with DSpace and Solr
03:43 dcook I seem to recall having issues with their browsing not updating though
03:43 eythian yeah, if it's doing that, then they probably only update it sporadically
03:44 dcook Mind problem may have been with cacheing if I recall correctly..
03:44 dcook eythian: Yeah, I would hope so.
03:44 dcook Not familiar enough with Java or Dspace to know for certain what they're doing
03:45 dcook They're a fairly small isolated community too, so a bit tough to get in touch with them from down under..
03:45 dcook I do know though that your idea of using database tables is what they used to do at least..
03:46 eythian hmm OK
03:47 rangi[…]culture-worldwide
03:49 eythian[…]owse/package.html <-- dcook
03:49 eythian The Browse API uses database tables to index Items based on the supplied
03:49 eythian configuration. When an Item is added to DSpace, modified or removed via the
03:49 eythian <a href="../content/package-summary.html">Content Management API</a>, the
03:49 eythian indexes are automatically updated.
03:51 dcook Ahhh, right, I forgot it's not what they "used to" do, they still can do that
03:51 dcook There is the SolrDAO but they also have the DB version...right.
03:52 dcook I think that example site I showed you before uses the SolrDAO...
03:53 dcook Hmm, that html looks a bit dated
03:53 eythian that surprises me, unless solr does facets quite differently to ES, I can't see how it'd work at any sort of speed.
03:54 dcook Hmm, I'll check that site
03:54 dcook Hmm Vim's history has me at the right point already. That's weird..
03:55 dcook Yep, that site I showed you is using Solr, and it's super fast
03:55 pastebot "dcook" at pasted "DSpace browse config" (17 lines) at
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03:57 dcook Who doesn't love liquorice?
03:58 dcook Hmm...
03:58 dcook I bet it gets its speed from cacheing
04:00 dcook Doesn't look like it has records but rather has pointers to records..
04:00 dcook I suppose that's speed in retrieval but not indexing though
04:01 dcook Yeah[…]owse/package.html is from 2010
04:01 dcook This doesn't have to do with the Solr stuff at all as that's quite recent
04:02 eythian[…]
04:02 eythian It still looks like it's pulling all the facets and sorting them
04:02 dcook I was just about to post[…]
04:02 eythian I can't understand how that's fast
04:03 dcook Ahh
04:03 eythian oddly, that method never uses 'value'
04:03 eythian err
04:03 eythian never uses 'column'
04:04 dcook Probably just there for compatibility
04:04 dcook As it's overriding an inherited method
04:04 dcook The database DAO would use column I bet
04:04 eythian sure, but assuming the column is the aspect of data to be looking over...
04:04 eythian how can it ignore it?
04:05 dcook Hmm, good point
04:05 dcook I wonder where "facetField" is defined..
04:06 eythian L685
04:06 * eythian should focus on what he's supposed to be doing for now though
04:07 eythian
04:07 eythian ^-- rangi
04:07 dcook Are you saying for once I derailed you? :P
04:07 rangi heh
04:07 eythian well, I'm supposed to be doing a migration...
04:08 dcook Ah, well
04:08 dcook As for speed, I'd suggest looking at "getSolrResponse" and "SolrBrowseDAO.FacetValueComparator" I guess
04:08 eythian it's a comparator
04:09 dcook Why did you decide against facets again?
04:09 eythian it's more the "fetch thousands of values via HTTP" that I have issues with
04:09 eythian because of the "fetch thousands of values via HTTP for every view" problem.
04:09 dcook Totally
04:09 dcook Ahh
04:09 dcook Don't you already have that though?
04:10 dcook I seem to recall seeing a "*" query on your, no?
04:10 dcook That'll return thousands of records for every view I would think
04:10 dcook Ah wait
04:10 dcook I'm an idiot
04:10 dcook *:"keyword"
04:10 dcook Not *:*
04:11 eythian dcook: yeah, that's a "request all and I'll give you the top 20 first" thing.
04:11 eythian and facets are limited to about 10 currently, though I do need to implement expanding them.
04:11 dcook Hmm
04:11 eythian (though, for browse purposes, I could say "give me the top 100,000"
04:12 eythian but then I'd have to process up to 100,000.)
04:12 dcook How do you get your facets?
04:12 dcook You can say only give you X?
04:12 dcook The size parameter controls how many facet entries will be returned.
04:12 dcook Hmm
04:13 dcook The value computed can also be a script, using the value_script instead of value_field, in which case the lang can control its language, and params allow to provide custom parameters (as in other scripted components).
04:13 dcook That sounds interesting
04:14 dcook Mind you, the whole facets being deprecated thing is a drag
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04:14 eythian dcook: yeah, I can control facets, but I still need to fetch them all to figure out where "smith" lives in the list.
04:14 rangi francesa:
04:15 rangi  thats the css
04:15 rangi i was thinking it would be nicer to make it look like
04:15 rangi
04:16 dcook Hmm
04:16 francesa ok  I'm just opening the links now
04:16 eythian 28-Aug-1989|5/06/98 <-- two different date formats, one field. Great work there.
04:17 eythian I don't even know how it can be two, it's the accession date, and it represents one copy.
04:17 dcook eythian: Keeping in mind that I know nothing of caches...couldn't you store the facets in a cache...then refresh them either periodically or on updates?
04:17 dcook I suppose you're still retrieving a lot of values and parsing them..
04:18 eythian yes, but I'd still have to search them. Better would be to put them into something that can quite efficiently do searching and just provide me with the linear results that I want.
04:18 eythian oh wait...
04:20 eythian This data has a column called "Today's Date". What the hell.
04:20 eythian It seemed so sane up until just now.
04:20 dcook lol
04:20 eythian oh hey, it's in a different date format to the other dates. Fancy that.
04:20 * eythian ignores it.
04:23 rangi francesa: if you want to get all the files
04:23 rangi you can do
04:23 rangi in a terminal
04:23 rangi git clone[…]ot/kohalogbot.git
04:26 eythian oh god issues and issue history are at the biblio level
04:26 eythian this is terrible
04:27 dcook eythian: You might want to look at this later:[…]
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04:51 rangi francesa:
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05:28 dcook Hmmm
05:31 dcook Having problems in a few instances with the same code and the same data?
05:31 dcook SetEnv DEBUG 1
05:31 * dcook twitches a bit
05:31 dcook I'm glad this same thing happened to me a year or so, or I would've gone crazy
05:31 dcook This whole experience thing sure comes in handy...
05:31 eythian heh who would have thought.
05:31 dcook hehe
05:32 dcook my $dbh = DBI->connect("DBI:$db_driver:dbname=$​db_name;host=$db_host;port=$db_port",
05:32 dcook $db_user, $db_passwd, {'RaiseError' => $ENV{DEBUG}?1:0 }) or die $DBI::errstr;
05:32 dcook It'll get you every time
05:32 dcook Mind you, the fatal error comes due to some absolutely horrendous coding on "our" part
05:33 * cait waves sleepily
05:33 dcook heya cait :)
05:34 * dcook wonders if this has been fixed in master..
05:35 eythian hi cait
05:35 cait hi dcook and eythian
05:36 dcook Nopes..
05:36 dcook C4::Items::GetItemInfosOf
05:36 dcook[…]C4/
05:36 * eythian chooses not to look
05:37 dcook I certainly wouldn't bother :p
05:37 * dcook will fix it in a jiffy...
05:37 eythian dealing with bad data from a non-koha system as it is :)
05:37 eythian actually, not too bad data. A badly designed data structure.
05:37 * dcook is still trying to decide what is the worst about this
05:38 dcook Perhaps a total lack of error checking
05:38 dcook Not even error checking..
05:39 dcook Row upon row of backwardsness perhaps..
05:40 * dcook debates fixing the acute problem or the larger bad design..
05:48 dcook Alas, I think I only have time to fix the acute problem
05:56 ashimema morning..
05:56 wahanui morning is a state of cat
05:56 ashimema or evening for you ppes round the other side..
05:56 eythian hi ashimema
05:56 dcook afternoon, ashimema :)
05:57 dcook Do I recall there being a Reserves rewrite?
05:57 eythian OK, I'm failing to achieve anything here, I think I should go home.
05:57 eythian later all.
05:58 dcook night, eythian
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06:48 reiveune hello
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06:51 marcelr hi #koha
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07:06 dcook hey Europeans :)
07:08 marcelr hi dcook
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07:17 gaetan_B hello
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07:33 marcelr hi cait
07:34 cait hi marcelr!
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07:47 cait marcelr: glad to see you around :)
07:47 marcelr :) had some vacation
07:48 cait nice :)
07:55 cait khall_away: ping me when you are around?
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07:57 paul_p !seen matts
07:57 paul_p @seen matts
07:57 huginn paul_p: matts was last seen in #koha 4 weeks, 2 days, 0 hours, 50 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <matts> hello !
07:58 cait bonjour paul_p
07:58 cait france vs. germany tomorrow? :)
07:58 paul_p cait it seems. I hope you'll still QA BibLibre patches, even if germany come back home ;-)
08:00 cait hmmmmmm not sure...
08:00 paul_p cait OK, /me calling french players to tell them to let you win now
08:02 cait you have connections? :)
08:03 cait going to watch the game with some coworkers, should be fun anyway
08:06 cait hoping the german team recovers - seems a lot of them have the flu or something
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09:16 fridolin hie all
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11:35 bgkriegel Hi
11:45 khall cait: what's up?
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12:22 oleonard Bug 11703 doesn't apply anymore, already?
12:22 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable
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12:43 tcohen morning
12:47 oleonard Hi everyone
12:56 bgkriegel hi tcohen oleonard
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13:15 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10652 - Ajaxfileupload.js failing in IE9 for local image upload <[…]1af496377c5de7748> / Bug 12150: Add missing space and correct innerHTML typo <[…]a20b73c3445f772ed> / Bug 12150 - Use more javascript string formatting in intranet for translated strings.
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13:29 cait khall: stil there?
13:29 khall yo
13:29 cait oleonard: where is the conflict?
13:29 wahanui the conflict is in the perldoc :)
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13:30 oleonard cait: and
13:30 cait hm wonder why
13:30 cait must be another patch - patron serach?
13:30 cait it applied on a sandbox from yesterday
13:37 cait khall: pm :)
13:40 bgkriegel oleonard: just tried and 11703 applies without problem
13:40 oleonard Weird.
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13:45 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12220 - bootstrap not responsive on all devices <[…]59fdb6dc3e108a143> / Bug 12237: Remove the "horrible hack" in C4::Templates <[…]fe2347671e2a12ebf>
13:55 jcamins tcohen: you should put the dates for KohaCon14 directly on the front page of the KohaCon14 section of the site.
13:55 tcohen ok!
13:55 tcohen good morning jcamins!
13:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12451 - circulation rule cant be edited if itemtype contains a space character <[…]c48b796ae05c82dfa> / Bug 8567: Set output directory for in cron config created by the packages <[…]cdeb662283f05f5f0>
13:55 jcamins Good morning.
14:23 tcohen khall: it seems to me that checkout page is reloaded on each checkout instead of doing it asynchronously
14:23 tcohen ref bug 11703
14:23 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable
14:24 khall tcohen: yes, that is not a bug
14:24 khall the next step is to ajaxify the checkout process itself
14:24 khall that's something jesse weaver has been working on
14:24 khall I've seen a working proof of concept
14:25 khall his work is built on top of bug 11703
14:25 tcohen ok
14:28 khall the goal of bug 11703 itself is only to make load as fast as possible to increase the "responsiveness" of circulation for librarians
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14:50 Joubu khall: do you know if that will allow checkouts in a batch?
14:51 khall Joubu: bug 11703 doesn't
14:51 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable
14:51 khall that's something that would need to be added to jesse's work
14:52 khall in the end I think it will trivialize the ability to do batch checkins
14:52 khall s/checkins/checkouts/
14:53 Joubu yes I know 11703 does not allow, I qa it :)
14:54 * khall forgot about that
14:54 khall and I think you for qa'ing!
14:54 khall s/think/thank/
14:54 * khall can't type today
14:54 Joubu khall: because I wrote bug 11759. It will be completely broken with 11703.
14:54 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11759 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Batch checkout
14:55 Joubu And I will need to rewrite it. So it would be good to know on what JesseM is working :)
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14:56 khall Joubu: yes, I'll see if Jesse can submit a patch yet. I think it would be best to base a new version of the feature on that. It shouldn't be very hard to add batch processing to it
14:57 JesseM I think you mean the other Jesse :P Pianohacker
14:57 Joubu khall: ok, let me know
14:57 khall JesseM: yep, dang autocomplete!
14:57 Joubu JesseM: yep, sorry, autocomplete :)
14:57 khall Joubu: will do!
14:57 JesseM :)
14:59 khall Joubu: I know the feeling too. I had that happen with a serials patch I submitted.
15:00 reiveune bye
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15:01 gmcharlt please note the latest addition to the coding guidelines, DEPR1, deprecating the non-XSLT OPAC templates per the dev meeting yesterday[…]_Guidelines#DEPR1
15:01 khall gmcharlt: so we didn't decide to deprecate non-xslt for the staff intranet as well?
15:02 gmcharlt khall: I'm not sure
15:03 gmcharlt my suggested wording was OPAC-only (an oversight) but I don't see that anybody commented on that until you did just now
15:03 khall well, I guess we can bring up the staff side at the next meeting
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15:04 gmcharlt yeah, or just drop a note on the list
15:05 khall that's a better idea
15:06 tcohen I thought we were talking about both actually
15:07 khall I thought we were as well
15:07 khall cait: any thoughts? ^
15:07 khall Joubu: ^
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15:09 khall bug 12407 has been needing qa for a while now, I can't because nengard signed it. It should be easy karma
15:09 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12407 major, P5 - low, ---,, Signed Off , phone label or data switched
15:10 Joubu khall: In my thoughts, it was for both too
15:10 khall cait appears to be away
15:10 Joubu but maybe you can add it on the trello for the next dev meeting
15:11 tgoat hey bywater .. I can't get log into my bywater google business acct. anyone else having thios issue?
15:11 khall gmcharlt: how do you feel about changing DEPR1 to include staff side now, based on the fact that everyone so far thought it was for both, and we can double check on the mailing list and/or staff meeting
15:11 khall tgoat: you asking the the right channel ; )
15:11 tgoat hanks .. didnt notice :)
15:12 gmcharlt khall: no objections
15:12 khall I think you probably meant to put in #bywater
15:12 tgoat right-o!
15:14 Joubu khall: for bug 11395, did you apply the deps?
15:14 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11395 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Patch doesn't apply , Batch modifications for records
15:15 khall Joubu: nope, I'll reset the status and try again. Thanks for pointing that out! I should know better ; )
15:16 cait sorry
15:16 cait crazy day at work
15:17 cait khall: for the non-xslt - both i thought
15:18 khall I think that settles the issue pretty well than
15:18 cait anything else for me?
15:18 cait I am in a state of confused :)
15:19 cait Joubu: argh about 11759 - i was looking forward to that - hoping it would help a little with our rfid integration
15:19 cait Joubu: hope it can be resolved at some point
15:20 cait and gmcharlt++ for adding the coding guideline :)
15:21 * cait runs off again
15:42 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11703: DBRev <[…]393b4801d82bba23b> / Bug 11703: (qa followup) consistency in svc <[…]57ba45f776b6565e7> / Bug 11703 [QA Followup] - Change "No data available in table" to "Loading..." <[…]koha.git;a=commit
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15:54 oleonard tcohen: When I try to view the holds tab on the circulation page I get an error: svc/ not found
15:55 oleonard tcohen: Looks like holds.js still looks for
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16:17 cait oleonard: hm worked for me yesterday - could it be the follow up?
16:17 cait oleonard: we tested holds and relative's checkouts yesterday
16:18 oleonard[…]57ba45f776b6565e7
16:18 cait oleonard: yep, that one
16:18 cait and sorry, imissed you addressed tcohen...
16:24 oleonard Oh look someone wrote software for managing summer reading programs and made it open source... only it's written in ASP and requires SQL Server :P
16:25 cait oh
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16:53 tcohen oleonard: heh, looks like my grep capabilities is degrading
17:08 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11703: (followup) svc/holds invoked with trailing .pl <[…]0b7d561cdcc2dc5e8>
17:15 tcohen ^^^^^^^^^oleonard
17:16 oleonard Thanks tcohen
17:16 tcohen sorry for that
17:18 tcohen DBIx experts
17:19 tcohen could we have problems with code relying on sorted hashes retrieved from DBIx?
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17:47 jcamins bug 11650
17:47 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11650 normal, P5 - low, ---, januszop, Passed QA , multiplicated authorities after
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18:18 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11638: Remove HTML from <[…]22fe8ecbd0c32f966> / Bug 12482: (QA followup) coding guidelines for hashrefs <[…]528c524a09a0b93b0> / Bug 12482 [QA Followup] <[…]e86d58bad633020cb
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18:42 tcohen bye #koha
19:00 oleonard @later tell tcohen It doesn't look like we make any provision for i18n of TinyMCE
19:00 huginn oleonard: The operation succeeded.
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19:53 * cait waves
19:59 rangi morning
20:06 cait morning rangi
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20:43 bag hola hankbank
20:46 * cait waves
21:33 rangi!/ranginui/broadcast in case anyone wants to listen to my music tastes hehe
21:34 cait i'd like to - but no grooveshark here :(
21:34 rangi stupid GEMA
21:34 cait heh
22:10 rangi @wunder nzwn
22:10 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (10:00 AM NZST on July 04, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
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22:20 cait @wunder konstanz
22:20 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.9°C (12:20 AM CEST on July 04, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
22:24 rangi[…]84824472902328320
22:24 rangi the view from the rea's house
22:25 bag nice
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22:33 eythian hi
22:33 eythian @wunder nzwn
22:33 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (10:00 AM NZST on July 04, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
22:33 eythian feels about right
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23:16 WNickC @wunder 05048
23:16 huginn WNickC: The current temperature in Lebanon, New Hampshire is 28.0°C (6:53 PM EDT on July 03, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1010 hPa (Steady). Severe Thunderstorm Watch 391 in effect until 10 PM EDT this evening...
23:32 tcohen hi eythian
23:32 eythian hello tcohen
23:39 mtj woah, which burb is that foto in, rangi? ^^
23:39 mtj is it brooklyn/melrose
23:44 mtj hiya eythian, tcohen
23:45 eythian mtj: it'll be Melrose
23:46 mtj those snakey roads!
23:47 mtj awesome view wizzyrea
23:57 dcook wizzyrea: All moved in now?
23:57 eythian I think they are, but they're also going on holiday for a week.
23:58 eythian so probably either have left, or are furiously packing :)
23:58 dcook Ah, right. I forgot about that.
23:58 * dcook couldn't remember the order of holiday and moving

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