Time  Nick      Message
00:23 dac       Oh, Windows 8. Thou art the buggiest...
00:26 dcook     Nothing like a crash to make you restart your browser sans billion tabs
01:07 dcook     rangi: looks like GitStats isn't updating again. The last commit that it's showing is for 2014-06-27, but there have been around 10 pushed in July alone, I think.
01:34 dcook     Whoa...it's still morning
01:34 dcook     When did that happen?
01:36 rangi     hmm ill look
01:37 rangi     seems to be working fine
01:37 rangi     yeah
01:38 rangi     git log tells me latest was Date:   Thu Jun 26 15:03:37 2014 -0400
01:38 rangi     which is the one i pushed this morning
01:38 eythian   dcook: it's very much afternoon.
01:39 rangi     ahhh its the mailmap busting it
01:39 rangi     ill fix
01:40 rangi     explains why it wasnt merging too
01:49 eythian   http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/81276463262/cluster-doing-a-split-brain <-- why you shouldn't run two ES instances.
01:49 dcook     rangi: Yay!
01:49 dcook     eythian: Damn timezones...
01:50 dcook     eythian: hehe. I just saw that tumblr this morning thanks to cjh..
01:51 cjh       ;)
01:56 rangi     dcook: http://git.koha-community.org/stats/koha-master/authors.html
02:01 dcook     Yay! Thanks, rangi :)
02:54 bag       hey eythian you around?
02:55 rangi     he just ducked out
02:55 rangi     shouldnt be long
02:55 bag       cool
02:55 bag       thanks
03:02 bag       @wunder las vegas nv
03:02 huginn    bag: The current temperature in MacDonald Ranch, Henderson, Nevada is 38.9°C (8:00 PM PDT on July 02, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Rising).  Excessive heat warning in effect until 10 PM PDT this evening below 4000 feet...
03:04 dcook     Excessive heat warning?
03:05 * dcook   knows nothing of Nevada altitude...
03:05 dcook     Except getting a bit sick after leaving Reno...
03:07 bag       yeah I was just in Vegas this last weekend for ALA
03:08 bag       brutally hot
03:08 bag       it was 114 (I think that's the hottest I've ever been in)
03:08 bag       @wunder 93101
03:08 huginn    bag: The current temperature in Westside (Gillespie), Santa Barbara, California is 17.7°C (8:08 PM PDT on July 02, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
03:08 bag       much nicer :)
03:08 dcook     114 is pretty hot..
03:09 dcook     I think I did 118 in 2013
03:09 dcook     But that was just for a day
03:09 dcook     @wunder sydney, australia
03:09 huginn    dcook: The current temperature in Matraville, Sydney, New South Wales is 20.8°C (1:05 PM EST on July 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Falling).
03:09 * dcook   looks outside
03:09 dcook     It does look like a beautiful day...
03:10 rangi     @wunder nzwn
03:10 huginn    rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (3:00 PM NZST on July 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa (Steady).
03:11 * dcook   is trying to think of Oz/Nz slang for warm things
03:11 dcook     "Woolies"?
03:11 dcook     Hope you're rugged up?
03:12 dcook     I suppose we'd say "bundle up" in Canada...
03:12 dcook     Although -10 is cause for tshirt and shorts in spring...
03:12 bag       yeah that's canada for you
03:12 * dcook   thinks Saskatchewan should host Kohacon in "spring"
03:12 dcook     bag: Yep :)
03:13 dcook     I used to think Saskatchewan was about the most hardcore you could get...blistering heat and blistering cold, but we build houses pretty well (or we don't notice the cold as we're numb most of the time)
03:18 eythian   bag: yo
03:19 bag       heya - bbias
03:19 eythian   kk
03:23 bag       so eythian browse for ES
03:23 eythian   yeah, ES has no easy function (that I've found) to do what we (well, me at least) were thinking of.
03:24 eythian   It's good at search, but not good at giving you things that aren't part of your search terms.
03:24 bag       I wasn't sure what your questions where...  I thought what we had in the original demo stuff in March was pretty darn good
03:24 bag       ah right so not a shelf list
03:24 bag       just results
03:25 eythian   Yeah. I had faked it for testing purposes by just doing a "startswith" query, but that's not really the same thing.
03:25 bag       right and would only work for a little bit
03:25 eythian   yep
03:25 eythian   However, I've taken the shelf browser idea, and am having a go at implementing something that does a similar thing to that.
03:25 bag       alright I'm caught up then
03:25 eythian   It's actually not going to be especially complicated.
03:25 bag       sweet
03:26 eythian   basically, all the fields you care about browsing, when you index you throw all the values into a database table.
03:26 eythian   bam, now we have a thing to browse on.
03:26 eythian   (a bit more than that, but that's the essence of it :)
03:26 bag       so just a bigger table
03:27 bag       and can we ISAM that instead of INNODB
03:27 eythian   It'll be quite a large table, but will only have a few columns.
03:27 eythian   Hmm.
03:27 bag       at least for current mysql
03:27 eythian   most likely, yes
03:27 eythian   It'll depend on whether ISAM allows us the same degree of indexing, but if it does, then sure.
03:27 eythian   It won't have any foreign relationships anyway.
03:28 bag       so then it can be possible (I think)...
03:28 bag       so would that be a build browse indexes at set times?  cronjob
03:28 eythian   I think so. It'll also work across search engines, too.
03:29 eythian   nah, it'd build the browse index when you add a record normally.
03:29 eythian   i.e. as part of rebuild_(zebra|elasticsearch)
03:29 bag       ok cool
03:29 bag       hmm if you get the browse into a index table - then anyone could develop the display they want off that
03:29 bag       that's cool
03:29 eythian   yeah
03:30 bag       would be nice if we could store it in any database we wanted instead of just the koha database
03:31 eythian   yeah. I'd put it in ES, but there's no way to say "give me this record and the five next ordered by this"
03:31 eythian   (without adding a number to the records yourself, but that means reindexing the whole lot to add one in the middle.)
03:32 bag       :P
03:32 dcook     Pssst
03:32 eythian   hush dcook
03:32 dcook     hehe
03:32 eythian   we don't care about zebra :)
03:32 dcook     :(
03:33 eythian   I mean zebras are all "we just want to be like pandas, cos pandas are cool, but we're more like horses"
03:33 dcook     If we're keeping Zebra around for a z39.50 server, why not keep it around for a browser as well? :p
03:34 dcook     I suppose the z39.50 server could be updated fairly rarely
03:34 dcook     The browser not so much..
03:34 * dcook   wishes eythian luck in any case
03:34 eythian   dcook: because in the short span of 50 years time, SRU and such will eat z39.50's lunch :)
03:34 * dcook   ponders
03:34 dcook     I think SRU uses CQL, and ZOOM can use CQL.
03:35 dcook     I suppose that's not the same thing at all though, lol
03:35 dcook     Durrr
03:35 dcook     Because ZOOM would still be using z39.50..
03:35 dcook     I would say it must be Monday if it weren't Thursday
03:36 dcook     Hmm
03:36 dcook     Actually, ZOOM can use SRU/SRW instead of Z39.50
03:36 dcook     I suppose the ZOOM acronym would just be a bit...misleading
03:37 eythian   yeah :)
03:37 dcook     zebrasrv can also use SRU
03:38 dcook     Actually, I had a peak at CQL yesterday...it seems to much nicer than CCL...
03:38 dcook     seems so*
03:38 * dcook   didn't mean to butt into the eythian/bag dialogue :p
03:38 dcook     Well, I did, but only briefly
03:39 bag       no worries that's why we talked here dcook - so others can have input too
03:40 eythian   But anyway, hopefully my approach will be generally useful. I guess you could replace it with a special provider if your search backend can handle it for you.
03:40 dcook     [off] dinger...new tax tables mean I'll be taxed 8 dollars more per week on my raise than I thought! Good to know that money is going somewhere good with this government. Oh wait...
03:40 dcook     Oh yeah..
03:41 dcook     eythian: I had shot off an email to the DSpace folks asking how they did their browse with Solr, but got nothing in response :/
03:42 eythian   hmm, it'd be good to know.
03:42 dcook     I think that they put it in a browse index in Solr and use a value that they have to update each time they reindex...but I would rather have the confirmation
03:43 dcook     It's been too long since I played around with DSpace and Solr
03:43 dcook     I seem to recall having issues with their browsing not updating though
03:43 eythian   yeah, if it's doing that, then they probably only update it sporadically
03:44 dcook     Mind you...my problem may have been with cacheing if I recall correctly..
03:44 dcook     eythian: Yeah, I would hope so.
03:44 dcook     Not familiar enough with Java or Dspace to know for certain what they're doing
03:45 dcook     They're a fairly small isolated community too, so a bit tough to get in touch with them from down under..
03:45 dcook     I do know though that your idea of using database tables is what they used to do at least..
03:46 eythian   hmm OK
03:47 rangi     https://www.bikewise.co.nz/news/2014/07/03/catalyst-it-enabling-burgeoning-bike-culture-worldwide
03:49 eythian   https://github.com/DSpace/DSpace/blob/master/dspace-api/src/main/java/org/dspace/browse/package.html <-- dcook
03:49 eythian   The Browse API uses database tables to index Items based on the supplied
03:49 eythian   configuration. When an Item is added to DSpace, modified or removed via the
03:49 eythian   <a href="../content/package-summary.html">Content Management API</a>, the
03:49 eythian   indexes are automatically updated.
03:51 dcook     Ahhh, right, I forgot it's not what they "used to" do, they still can do that
03:51 dcook     There is the SolrDAO but they also have the DB version...right.
03:52 dcook     I think that example site I showed you before uses the SolrDAO...
03:53 dcook     Hmm, that html looks a bit dated
03:53 eythian   that surprises me, unless solr does facets quite differently to ES, I can't see how it'd work at any sort of speed.
03:54 dcook     Hmm, I'll check that site
03:54 dcook     Hmm Vim's history has me at the right point already. That's weird..
03:55 dcook     Yep, that site I showed you is using Solr, and it's super fast
03:55 pastebot  "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "DSpace browse config" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/75
03:57 dcook     Who doesn't love liquorice?
03:58 dcook     Hmm...
03:58 dcook     I bet it gets its speed from cacheing
03:59 dcook     [off] This is the XML that Cocoon is parsing for the browse: http://www.territorystories.nt.gov.au/DRI/browse?order=ASC&rpp=20&sort_by=1&etal=-1&offset=0&type=title
04:00 dcook     Doesn't look like it has records but rather has pointers to records..
04:00 dcook     I suppose that's speed in retrieval but not indexing though
04:01 dcook     Yeah https://github.com/DSpace/DSpace/blob/master/dspace-api/src/main/java/org/dspace/browse/package.html is from 2010
04:01 dcook     This doesn't have to do with the Solr stuff at all as that's quite recent
04:02 eythian   https://github.com/DSpace/DSpace/blob/master/dspace-api/src/main/java/org/dspace/browse/SolrBrowseDAO.java#L359
04:02 eythian   It still looks like it's pulling all the facets and sorting them
04:02 dcook     I was just about to post https://github.com/DSpace/DSpace/blob/master/dspace-api/src/main/java/org/dspace/browse/SolrBrowseDAO.java
04:02 eythian   I can't understand how that's fast
04:03 dcook     Ahh
04:03 eythian   oddly, that method never uses 'value'
04:03 eythian   err
04:03 eythian   never uses 'column'
04:04 dcook     Probably just there for compatibility
04:04 dcook     As it's overriding an inherited method
04:04 dcook     The database DAO would use column I bet
04:04 eythian   sure, but assuming the column is the aspect of data to be looking over...
04:04 eythian   how can it ignore it?
04:05 dcook     Hmm, good point
04:05 dcook     I wonder where "facetField" is defined..
04:06 eythian   L685
04:06 * eythian should focus on what he's supposed to be doing for now though
04:07 eythian   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPuI_pbCYOI
04:07 eythian   ^-- rangi
04:07 dcook     Are you saying for once I derailed you? :P
04:07 rangi     heh
04:07 eythian   well, I'm supposed to be doing a migration...
04:08 dcook     Ah, well
04:08 dcook     As for speed, I'd suggest looking at "getSolrResponse" and "SolrBrowseDAO.FacetValueComparator" I guess
04:08 eythian   it's a comparator
04:09 dcook     Why did you decide against facets again?
04:09 eythian   it's more the "fetch thousands of values via HTTP" that I have issues with
04:09 eythian   because of the "fetch thousands of values via HTTP for every view" problem.
04:09 dcook     Totally
04:09 dcook     Ahh
04:09 dcook     Don't you already have that though?
04:10 dcook     I seem to recall seeing a "*" query on your opac-search.pl, no?
04:10 dcook     That'll return thousands of records for every view I would think
04:10 dcook     Ah wait
04:10 dcook     I'm an idiot
04:10 dcook     *:"keyword"
04:10 dcook     Not *:*
04:11 eythian   dcook: yeah, that's a "request all and I'll give you the top 20 first" thing.
04:11 eythian   and facets are limited to about 10 currently, though I do need to implement expanding them.
04:11 dcook     Hmm
04:11 eythian   (though, for browse purposes, I could say "give me the top 100,000"
04:12 eythian   but then I'd have to process up to 100,000.)
04:12 dcook     How do you get your facets?
04:12 dcook     You can say only give you X?
04:12 dcook     The size parameter controls how many facet entries will be returned.
04:12 dcook     Hmm
04:13 dcook     The value computed can also be a script, using the value_script instead of value_field, in which case the lang can control its language, and params allow to provide custom parameters (as in other scripted components).
04:13 dcook     That sounds interesting
04:14 dcook     Mind you, the whole facets being deprecated thing is a drag
04:14 eythian   dcook: yeah, I can control facets, but I still need to fetch them all to figure out where "smith" lives in the list.
04:14 rangi     francesa: http://irc.koha-community.org/
04:15 rangi     http://irc.koha-community.org/style.css  thats the css
04:15 rangi     i was thinking it would be nicer to make it look like
04:15 rangi     http://download.koha-community.org/
04:16 dcook     Hmm
04:16 francesa  ok  I'm just opening the links now
04:16 eythian   28-Aug-1989|5/06/98 <-- two different date formats, one field. Great work there.
04:17 eythian   I don't even know how it can be two, it's the accession date, and it represents one copy.
04:17 dcook     eythian: Keeping in mind that I know nothing of caches...couldn't you store the facets in a cache...then refresh them either periodically or on updates?
04:17 dcook     I suppose you're still retrieving a lot of values and parsing them..
04:18 eythian   yes, but I'd still have to search them. Better would be to put them into something that can quite efficiently do searching and just provide me with the linear results that I want.
04:18 eythian   oh wait...
04:20 eythian   This data has a column called "Today's Date". What the hell.
04:20 eythian   It seemed so sane up until just now.
04:20 dcook     lol
04:20 eythian   oh hey, it's in a different date format to the other dates. Fancy that.
04:20 * eythian ignores it.
04:23 rangi     francesa: if you want to get all the files
04:23 rangi     you can do
04:23 rangi     in a terminal
04:23 rangi     git clone https://git.gitorious.org/kohalogbot/kohalogbot.git
04:26 eythian   oh god issues and issue history are at the biblio level
04:26 eythian   this is terrible
04:27 dcook     eythian: You might want to look at this later: https://github.com/DSpace/DSpace/blob/master/dspace-api/src/main/java/org/dspace/browse/BrowseEngine.java
04:51 rangi     francesa: https://gitorious.org/
05:28 dcook     Hmmm
05:31 dcook     Having problems in a few instances with the same code and the same data?
05:31 dcook     SetEnv DEBUG 1
05:31 * dcook   twitches a bit
05:31 dcook     I'm glad this same thing happened to me a year or so, or I would've gone crazy
05:31 dcook     This whole experience thing sure comes in handy...
05:31 eythian   heh who would have thought.
05:31 dcook     hehe
05:32 dcook     my $dbh = DBI->connect("DBI:$db_driver:dbname=$db_name;host=$db_host;port=$db_port",
05:32 dcook     $db_user, $db_passwd, {'RaiseError' => $ENV{DEBUG}?1:0 }) or die $DBI::errstr;
05:32 dcook     It'll get you every time
05:32 dcook     Mind you, the fatal error comes due to some absolutely horrendous coding on "our" part
05:33 * cait    waves sleepily
05:33 dcook     heya cait :)
05:34 * dcook   wonders if this has been fixed in master..
05:35 eythian   hi cait
05:35 cait      hi dcook and eythian
05:36 dcook     Nopes..
05:36 dcook     C4::Items::GetItemInfosOf
05:36 dcook     http://repo.or.cz/w/koha.git/blob/HEAD:/C4/Items.pm#l1145
05:36 * eythian chooses not to look
05:37 dcook     I certainly wouldn't bother :p
05:37 * dcook   will fix it in a jiffy...
05:37 eythian   dealing with bad data from a non-koha system as it is :)
05:37 eythian   actually, not too bad data. A badly designed data structure.
05:37 * dcook   is still trying to decide what is the worst about this
05:38 dcook     Perhaps a total lack of error checking
05:38 dcook     Not even error checking..
05:39 dcook     Row upon row of backwardsness perhaps..
05:40 * dcook   debates fixing the acute problem or the larger bad design..
05:48 dcook     Alas, I think I only have time to fix the acute problem
05:56 ashimema  morning..
05:56 wahanui   morning is a state of cat
05:56 ashimema  or evening for you ppes round the other side..
05:56 eythian   hi ashimema
05:56 dcook     afternoon, ashimema :)
05:57 dcook     Do I recall there being a Reserves rewrite?
05:57 eythian   OK, I'm failing to achieve anything here, I think I should go home.
05:57 eythian   later all.
05:58 dcook     night, eythian
06:48 reiveune  hello
06:51 marcelr   hi #koha
07:06 dcook     hey Europeans :)
07:08 marcelr   hi dcook
07:17 gaetan_B  hello
07:33 marcelr   hi cait
07:34 cait      hi marcelr!
07:47 cait      marcelr: glad to see you around :)
07:47 marcelr   :) had some vacation
07:48 cait      nice :)
07:55 cait      khall_away: ping me when you are around?
07:57 paul_p    !seen matts
07:57 paul_p    @seen matts
07:57 huginn    paul_p: matts was last seen in #koha 4 weeks, 2 days, 0 hours, 50 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <matts> hello !
07:58 cait      bonjour paul_p
07:58 cait      france vs. germany tomorrow? :)
07:58 paul_p    cait it seems. I hope you'll still QA BibLibre patches, even if germany come back home ;-)
08:00 cait      hmmmmmm not sure...
08:00 paul_p    cait OK, /me calling french players to tell them to let you win now
08:02 cait      you have connections? :)
08:03 cait      going to watch the game with some coworkers, should be fun anyway
08:06 cait      hoping the german team recovers - seems a lot of them have the flu or something
09:16 fridolin  hie all
11:35 bgkriegel Hi
11:45 khall     cait: what's up?
12:22 oleonard  Bug 11703 doesn't apply anymore, already?
12:22 huginn    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable
12:43 tcohen    morning
12:47 oleonard  Hi everyone
12:56 bgkriegel hi tcohen oleonard
13:15 huginn    New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10652 - Ajaxfileupload.js failing in IE9 for local image upload <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb772f1a90624918027087b1af496377c5de7748> / Bug 12150: Add missing space and correct innerHTML typo <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3058b09080c9c9f8233c149a20b73c3445f772ed> / Bug 12150 - Use more javascript string formatting in intranet for translated strings.
13:29 cait      khall: stil there?
13:29 khall     yo
13:29 cait      oleonard: where is the conflict?
13:29 wahanui   the conflict is in the perldoc :)
13:30 oleonard  cait: circulation.tt and moremember.pl
13:30 cait      hm wonder why
13:30 cait      must be another patch - patron serach?
13:30 cait      it applied on a sandbox from yesterday
13:37 cait      khall: pm :)
13:40 bgkriegel oleonard: just tried and 11703 applies without problem
13:40 oleonard  Weird.
13:45 huginn    New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12220 - bootstrap not responsive on all devices <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e57e68820876c39053729159fdb6dc3e108a143> / Bug 12237: Remove the "horrible hack" in C4::Templates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0c17a8c3aa7701cad41aeefe2347671e2a12ebf>
13:55 jcamins   tcohen: you should put the dates for KohaCon14 directly on the front page of the KohaCon14 section of the site.
13:55 tcohen    ok!
13:55 tcohen    good morning jcamins!
13:55 huginn    New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12451 - circulation rule cant be edited if itemtype contains a space character <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d0d54d8a929f6b3813ab3eac48b796ae05c82dfa> / Bug 8567: Set output directory for fines.pl in cron config created by the packages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0162453a1cf20f5037bdda1cdeb662283f05f5f0>
13:55 jcamins   Good morning.
14:23 tcohen    khall: it seems to me that checkout page is reloaded on each checkout instead of doing it asynchronously
14:23 tcohen    ref bug 11703
14:23 huginn    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable
14:24 khall     tcohen: yes, that is not a bug
14:24 khall     the next step is to ajaxify the checkout process itself
14:24 khall     that's something jesse weaver has been working on
14:24 khall     I've seen a working proof of concept
14:25 khall     his work is built on top of bug 11703
14:25 tcohen    ok
14:28 khall     the goal of bug 11703 itself is only to make circulation.pl load as fast as possible to increase the "responsiveness" of circulation for librarians
14:50 Joubu     khall: do you know if that will allow checkouts in a batch?
14:51 khall     Joubu: bug 11703 doesn't
14:51 huginn    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable
14:51 khall     that's something that would need to be added to jesse's work
14:52 khall     in the end I think it will trivialize the ability to do batch checkins
14:52 khall     s/checkins/checkouts/
14:53 Joubu     yes I know 11703 does not allow, I qa it :)
14:54 * khall   forgot about that
14:54 khall     and I think you for qa'ing!
14:54 khall     s/think/thank/
14:54 * khall   can't type today
14:54 Joubu     khall: because I wrote bug 11759. It will be completely broken with 11703.
14:54 huginn    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11759 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Batch checkout
14:55 Joubu     And I will need to rewrite it. So it would be good to know on what JesseM is working :)
14:56 khall     Joubu: yes, I'll see if Jesse can submit a patch yet. I think it would be best to base a new version of the feature on that. It shouldn't be very hard to add batch processing to it
14:57 JesseM    I think you mean the other Jesse :P Pianohacker
14:57 Joubu     khall: ok, let me know
14:57 khall     JesseM: yep, dang autocomplete!
14:57 Joubu     JesseM: yep, sorry, autocomplete :)
14:57 khall     Joubu: will do!
14:57 JesseM    :)
14:59 khall     Joubu: I know the feeling too. I had that happen with a serials patch I submitted.
15:00 reiveune  bye
15:01 gmcharlt  please note the latest addition to the coding guidelines, DEPR1, deprecating the non-XSLT OPAC templates per the dev meeting yesterday http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#DEPR1
15:01 khall     gmcharlt: so we didn't decide to deprecate non-xslt for the staff intranet as well?
15:02 gmcharlt  khall: I'm not sure
15:03 gmcharlt  my suggested wording was OPAC-only (an oversight) but I don't see that anybody commented on that until you did just now
15:03 khall     well, I guess we can bring up the staff side at the next meeting
15:04 gmcharlt  yeah, or just drop a note on the list
15:05 khall     that's a better idea
15:06 tcohen    I thought we were talking about both actually
15:07 khall     I thought we were as well
15:07 khall     cait: any thoughts? ^
15:07 khall     Joubu: ^
15:09 khall     bug 12407 has been needing qa for a while now, I can't because nengard signed it. It should be easy karma
15:09 huginn    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12407 major, P5 - low, ---, brendon.ford, Signed Off , phone label or data switched
15:10 Joubu     khall: In my thoughts, it was for both too
15:10 khall     cait appears to be away
15:10 Joubu     but maybe you can add it on the trello for the next dev meeting
15:11 tgoat     hey bywater .. I can't get log into my bywater google business acct. anyone else having thios issue?
15:11 khall     gmcharlt: how do you feel about changing DEPR1 to include staff side now, based on the fact that everyone so far thought it was for both, and we can double check on the mailing list and/or staff meeting
15:11 khall     tgoat: you asking the the right channel ; )
15:11 tgoat     hanks .. didnt notice :)
15:12 gmcharlt  khall: no objections
15:12 khall     I think you probably meant to put in #bywater
15:12 tgoat     right-o!
15:14 Joubu     khall: for bug 11395, did you apply the deps?
15:14 huginn    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11395 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Patch doesn't apply , Batch modifications for records
15:15 khall     Joubu: nope, I'll reset the status and try again. Thanks for pointing that out! I should know better ; )
15:16 cait      sorry
15:16 cait      crazy day at work
15:17 cait      khall: for the non-xslt - both i thought
15:18 khall     I think that settles the issue pretty well than
15:18 cait      anything else for me?
15:18 cait      I am in a state of confused :)
15:19 cait      Joubu: argh about 11759 - i was looking forward to that - hoping it would help a little with our rfid integration
15:19 cait      Joubu: hope it can be resolved at some point
15:20 cait      and gmcharlt++ for adding the coding guideline :)
15:21 * cait    runs off again
15:42 huginn    New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11703: DBRev 3.17.00.009 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3bcb0f89093daddc9d30e0c393b4801d82bba23b> / Bug 11703: (qa followup) consistency in svc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6cc316f999de2868b13840757ba45f776b6565e7> / Bug 11703 [QA Followup] - Change "No data available in table" to "Loading..." <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit
15:54 oleonard  tcohen: When I try to view the holds tab on the circulation page I get an error: svc/holds.pl not found
15:55 oleonard  tcohen: Looks like holds.js still looks for holds.pl
16:17 cait      oleonard: hm worked for me yesterday - could it be the follow up?
16:17 cait      oleonard: we tested holds and relative's checkouts yesterday
16:18 oleonard  http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6cc316f999de2868b13840757ba45f776b6565e7
16:18 cait      oleonard: yep, that one
16:18 cait      and sorry, imissed you addressed tcohen...
16:24 oleonard  Oh look someone wrote software for managing summer reading programs and made it open source... only it's written in ASP and requires SQL Server :P http://greatreadingadventure.com
16:25 cait      oh
16:53 tcohen    oleonard: heh, looks like my grep capabilities is degrading
17:08 huginn    New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11703: (followup) svc/holds invoked with trailing .pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9657a2c6dc92516963ffa960b7d561cdcc2dc5e8>
17:15 tcohen    ^^^^^^^^^oleonard
17:16 oleonard  Thanks tcohen
17:16 tcohen    sorry for that
17:18 tcohen    DBIx experts
17:19 tcohen    could we have problems with code relying on sorted hashes retrieved from DBIx?
17:47 jcamins   bug 11650
17:47 huginn    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11650 normal, P5 - low, ---, januszop, Passed QA , multiplicated authorities after link_bibs_to_authorities.pl
18:18 huginn    New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11638: Remove HTML from addbiblio.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f001cc32a3ce42262b37c6c22fe8ecbd0c32f966> / Bug 12482: (QA followup) coding guidelines for hashrefs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a3c9c4b11db62bee5d98624528c524a09a0b93b0> / Bug 12482 [QA Followup] <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a66eb6e86d58bad633020cb
18:42 tcohen    bye #koha
19:00 oleonard  @later tell tcohen It doesn't look like we make any provision for i18n of TinyMCE
19:00 huginn    oleonard: The operation succeeded.
19:53 * cait    waves
19:59 rangi     morning
20:06 cait      morning rangi
20:43 bag       hola hankbank
20:46 * cait    waves
21:33 rangi     http://grooveshark.com/#!/ranginui/broadcast in case anyone wants to listen to my music tastes hehe
21:34 cait      i'd like to - but no grooveshark here :(
21:34 rangi     stupid GEMA
21:34 cait      heh
22:10 rangi     @wunder nzwn
22:10 huginn    rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (10:00 AM NZST on July 04, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
22:20 cait      @wunder konstanz
22:20 huginn    cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.9°C (12:20 AM CEST on July 04, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
22:24 rangi     https://twitter.com/ThatcherRea/status/484824472902328320
22:24 rangi     the view from the rea's house
22:25 bag       nice
22:33 eythian   hi
22:33 eythian   @wunder nzwn
22:33 huginn    eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (10:00 AM NZST on July 04, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
22:33 eythian   feels about right
23:16 WNickC    @wunder 05048
23:16 huginn    WNickC: The current temperature in Lebanon, New Hampshire is 28.0°C (6:53 PM EDT on July 03, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1010 hPa (Steady).  Severe Thunderstorm Watch 391 in effect until 10 PM EDT this evening...
23:32 tcohen    hi eythian
23:32 eythian   hello tcohen
23:39 mtj       woah, which burb is that foto in, rangi? ^^
23:39 mtj       is it brooklyn/melrose
23:44 mtj       hiya eythian, tcohen
23:45 eythian   mtj: it'll be Melrose
23:46 mtj       those snakey roads!
23:47 mtj       awesome view wizzyrea
23:57 dcook     wizzyrea: All moved in now?
23:57 eythian   I think they are, but they're also going on holiday for a week.
23:58 eythian   so probably either have left, or are furiously packing :)
23:58 dcook     Ah, right. I forgot about that.
23:58 * dcook   couldn't remember the order of holiday and moving