IRC log for #koha, 2014-07-04

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00:09 rangi mtj: melrose
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00:15 mtj hey rangi, dcook :0)
00:16 rangi heya mtj
00:16 mtj friday stupid question... does anyone know why koha-zebra-stop only works on enabled instances?
00:17 rangi cos zebra wont be running on disabled instances?
00:18 eythian in an ideal world, it won't be.
00:19 eythian disabling an instance should call koha-stop-zebra
00:19 mtj zebra does indeed run for disabled kohas
00:19 eythian and it isn't launched on boot
00:19 eythian (and koha-start-zebra won't work on disabled instances.)
00:19 eythian mtj: it shouldn't
00:20 eythian if it gets into a state where it can, it's probably a bug. That said, koha-stop-zebra should check for that to make it easy to get out of an inconsistent state.
00:22 mtj hmm, for me ... something starts zebras for all kohas, regardless of whether they are enabled, or otherwise
00:23 mtj ill check that...
00:24 eythian mtj: with packages?
00:24 mtj yep
00:24 eythian koha-start-zebra tests for enabled status
00:24 * eythian -> lunch
00:25 mtj yeah, i see that...
00:25 mtj koha-start-zebra $(koha-list --enabled)
00:25 mtj well, thats good to know
00:26 mtj ..i'm fxd if i know what happening on my box then ?!
00:28 mtj aaah, click
00:28 mtj its koha-create
00:29 mtj which makes a koha, starts its zebra... and leaves it disabled
00:31 mtj heh, actually thats not true ^^
00:32 mtj calyx is running a modded version of koha-create... that disables the koha without stopping zebra
00:33 mtj got there in the end :)
00:36 mtj the actual problem i was having was koha-remove failing, coz zebra was still running
00:37 mtj there is a line in koha-remove to stop zebra... but that was failing too (as the koha was disabled)
00:39 mtj i was trying to work out which of those 2 scripts to fix, ...turns out the bug was in koha-create
00:45 dcook Glad you got it sorted, mtj :)
01:12 dcook It's funny...I just wrote a service for doing checkins and checkouts. Didn't realize that bug 11703 would do that too :p
01:12 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable
01:38 dcook What do folks use for buying books online?
01:38 * dcook says as a librarian/library software developer who avoids his local library
01:39 * dcook seems to recall eythian using Tor
01:39 dcook Or maybe it's Pan Macmillan...
01:39 eythian dcook: ebooks or physical books?
01:40 dcook Mmm, physical books
01:40 eythian Book Depository, generally
01:40 dcook I don't tend to read ebooks, although maybe I'll start when I get that tablet
01:40 dcook Interesting
01:40 wahanui i guess Interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
01:40 dcook I just got a book from there.
01:40 eythian tablets are good for ebooks
01:40 dcook Free shipping and cheaper than list price...
01:40 dcook eythian: I hope so :)
01:40 eythian The shipping takes just long enough that by the time it arrives, I've forgotten I ordered it.
01:40 eythian So it's like a magical present.
01:40 dcook My Galaxy S3 is bigger than my LG Optimus One was, but still too small for quality reading
01:41 dcook hehe
01:41 dcook I love when that happens!
01:41 * dcook thinks about when these were ordered
01:41 dcook Week and a half ago
01:41 dcook 5 were ordered but only one has been packed and shipped so far though, I think
01:42 * dcook sometimes fantasizes about having a "Like" button on Bugzilla comments
01:44 * tcohen thinks dcook should be happy with his S3, his Nexus 5 is rebooting several times per hour
01:45 dcook Oh, as a phone, I love my S3
01:45 dcook That sucks about your Nexus 5 :(
01:45 dcook I was fortunate to get the latest gen S3 as well so it can use 4G as well despite being an older model
01:46 * tcohen has to send it to Spain to ask Google for replacement :-/
01:46 dcook :(
01:47 dcook How long have you had it, tcohen?
01:47 tcohen a lot
01:47 tcohen about 3 month
01:47 tcohen :-)
01:49 dcook Ah, not too long then!
01:49 dcook I suppose I've had mine about...6 months now
01:50 rangi actually no
01:50 rangi that list does not take the pressure off
01:50 dcook ?
01:50 rangi now i just have to correct misunderstandings from that as well as the FUD from proprietary vendors
01:50 rangi </rant about email on the mailing list>
01:54 * tcohen feels is missing a part of the list conversation
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02:06 tcohen bye rangi
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02:15 eythian <-- oh wow, we need to plug this into a Koha for people migrating from old terminal systems.
02:15 rangi :)
02:15 dcook eythian: That is awesome
02:28 * dcook wonders if items.reserves is even used anymore...
02:29 rangi it was just a counter iirc
02:29 dcook Yeah, I think so
02:29 rangi not sure it is anymore
02:29 dcook I'm not sure either
02:29 dcook I'm thinking not
02:30 dcook I think issues and renewals are though
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03:25 rangi[…]anch_group_limit=
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03:40 dcook rangi: Yes?
03:41 rangi just checking people can see it
03:41 dcook Mostly
03:41 dcook "Place hold" is hard to see
03:41 dcook Especially when it's white on white (despite the shadow)
03:42 dcook Otherwise winning :)
03:42 rangi hm i think there is an image missing there
03:42 dcook Ah, could be
03:43 * dcook changes the search to "beer"
03:43 dcook "7. Write your way to a higher GPA : how to dramatically boost your GPA simply by sharpening your writing skills"
03:43 dcook I like your demo :)
03:43 * dcook always found beer + writing = A+
03:44 dcook Well...A/A+
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04:55 dcook yo cait
04:55 dcook Quiet today
04:57 * cait waves
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07:08 reiveune hello
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07:25 cait good friday morning #koha :)
07:30 dcook evening, cait :)
07:30 * dcook wishes that worked better...
07:30 sophie_m hello #koha
07:32 cait evening dcook, morning sophie_m
07:33 dcook Everyone have a good friday/weekend!
07:33 * dcook scampers off
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07:34 gaetan_B hello
07:34 cait hi gaetan_B :)
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12:13 tcohen morning!
12:13 wahanui it has been said that morning is a state of the cait
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13:05 tcohen #koha : what would be the expected behaviour (on the _UI) if a biblio that is on the basket is deleted from the DB?
13:05 cait i think what shoudl happen is that it still displays
13:05 cait pulling the data from deleted*
13:06 cait but I think it's not the case currently, mathieu was working on things in this area
13:06 tcohen oh, i found the bug and noticed no one was working on it
13:06 tcohen bug 3873
13:06 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3873 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Gracefully handle errors when item in staff client cart has been deleted
13:06 cait aaah
13:06 cait you mean cart
13:06 cait i as thinking acq :)
13:06 cait hm it's a low bug number
13:06 * tcohen is lost in translation
13:07 cait i thougth owen or marcel maybe had looked into that
13:07 tcohen reported 2010, last comment 2013
13:08 cait bug 1889
13:08 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1889 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, VERIFIED REMIND, Virtual shelves leave blank field in staff intranet when BIB is deleted
13:08 cait bug 7252
13:08 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7252 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Lists inaccessible when one or more MARC records listed have been deleted
13:09 cait bug 7258
13:09 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7258 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Cannot delete a title from a list if the bibliographic record has been deleted
13:09 tcohen we don't seem to have a method for accessing deleted_biblio
13:10 tcohen deletedbiblio
13:10 cait bug 8638
13:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8638 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Display title of deleted biblios in cancelled orders
13:10 cait all the same somehow
13:10 cait well the same basic question
13:11 tcohen i think DBIx should do it better than this[…]ment.cgi?id=28514
13:11 tcohen ok, time to learn DBIx :-D
13:11 cait hehe
13:11 cait yep!
13:12 cait so then you can teach me in argentina :)
13:12 tcohen khall_away will
13:12 cait oh is he coming?
13:12 tcohen (hopefully)
13:13 * tcohen just expressed his wish
13:13 cait :)
13:15 tcohen OMFG
13:15 cait tcohen: hm i think for the cart - maybe the record should get deleted
13:15 cait for the one in opac
13:15 tcohen i was thinking on the staff side
13:16 cait the entry in the cart i mean
13:16 cait ah
13:16 cait yeah i think more information there might be better
13:16 tcohen and i've noticed that a major rewrite is needed for your intended behaviour :-/
13:16 cait but probably harder, because you will still want to be able to remove it from the list etc.
13:16 cait i was afraid of that
13:16 tcohen C4::Biblio doesn't have a good API
13:17 tcohen and there isn't C4::OldBiblio
13:17 tcohen can table names be passed variable names in DBIx?
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13:18 tcohen like in
13:18 tcohen $schema->resultset( $correct_biblio_table )->find( $biblionumber );
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13:32 cait tcohen: C4/ - that was once used to back records from deleted to life... :)
13:32 cait but i think way before 3.2
13:33 tcohen heh
13:34 cait @wunder Konstanz
13:34 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 24.6°C (3:30 PM CEST on July 04, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
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13:41 bgkriegel @wunder cordoba, argentina
13:41 huginn bgkriegel: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 10.0°C (10:00 AM ART on July 04, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
13:43 cait we should have a thunderstorm soon... hopefully
13:43 cait it feels very damp right now
13:46 bgkriegel we will have rains... on September
13:47 cait hm and october?
13:47 bgkriegel may be :)
13:53 cait bgkriegel: there is a pool i want to use! but i guess the chances are not so good
13:53 paul_p cait = just in case =>[…]we-rischprojetcib
13:54 cait paul_p: i have seen that one in german i think
13:54 paul_p cait probably ;-) (this one is in english, despite the fr at the beginning of the url)
13:56 paul_p "nice" to see that kuali is cited, but not Koha. OTOH, no-one is using Kuali yet, while Koha is widely used...
13:56 paul_p (sarcastic "nice")
13:57 cait difficult topic I think
13:57 bgkriegel cait: what pool?
13:57 cait i think my accomodation has one
14:01 tcohen hi paul_p!
14:01 paul_p hello tcohen
14:01 cait paul_p: ready for the soccer game? :)
14:01 paul_p tcohen what about a final France <> Argentina ?
14:01 paul_p cait not yet but soon.
14:01 tcohen i hope not :-P
14:02 cait paul_p: iwhat about germany <> argentina?
14:02 paul_p tcohen why ? you think Argentina will loose before the final ?
14:02 paul_p cait mmm... no, not a good idea.
14:02 paul_p cait I prefer mine :D :D
14:02 cait we will see... :)
14:02 tcohen you have a strong team, I prefer Brazil
14:02 cait to be honest, i mostly look forward to the bbq tonight
14:03 cait and then the game will be a nice addition :)
14:05 jcamins What's the culture like?
14:06 jcamins Sorry, wrong window.
14:06 jcamins @wunder 11375
14:06 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in South Richmond Hill, South Richmond Hill, New York is 23.4°C (10:06 AM EDT on July 04, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Falling). Flash Flood Watch in effect until noon EDT today...
14:06 jcamins Pfeh. Flash floods.
14:08 gaetan_B bug 11030 should be pretty easy to qa for someone having a lazy friday ;)
14:08 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11030 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Signed Off , Add 359, 947 and 969 fields in french unimarc_complete framework
14:08 cait gaetan_B: what is a lazy friday?
14:09 gaetan_B i meant a friday were you don't feel like working too much :p
14:09 cait i know the queue is getting a bit long right now, but hard to find time
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14:30 pastebot "tcohen" at pasted "Learning DBIx: how does this look?" (12 lines) at
14:32 tcohen anyone?
14:32 wahanui anyone is free to organize one at any time :-)
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14:36 bgkriegel tcohen: looks clean. What's the result, a hashref?
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14:37 tcohen a result object
14:37 tcohen i'm having trouble to reach CPAN
14:37 tcohen (to read the docs)
14:39 bgkriegel Mmmm, 503 Service Unavailable!
14:40 gaetan_B bye!
14:40 bgkriegel and ... 504 Gateway Time-out
14:41 tcohen yeap
14:44 bgkriegel
14:45 tcohen thanks bgkriegel
14:45 bgkriegel :)
14:49 tcohen YAY: DBIx::Class::ResultClass::HashRefInflator
14:50 tcohen now i understood what khall_away said yesterday!
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14:53 pastebot "tcohen" at pasted "bgkriegel: this returns a hashref" (12 lines) at
14:54 reiveune bye
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15:01 cait tcohen: think a lot of people are already gone for today
15:03 tcohen good point
15:05 jcamins I think a lot of people were never here for today.
15:07 bgkriegel hehe
15:08 cait i think a holiday in US
15:08 cait oh
15:08 jcamins Yep.
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15:48 tcohen @later tell gmcharlt is it possible to have the relations between Deletedbiblio and Deletedbiblioitems in Koha::Schema ?
15:48 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
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17:57 bgkriegel "Football is a simple game. Twenty-two men chase a ball for 90 minutes and at the end, the Germans always win." G. Lineker
18:11 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Revert "Bug 8567: Set output directory for in cron config created by the... <[…]15a80c182e84e94e4>
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19:57 ivan_ Hello. I am on Ubuntu 14.04  and after a large import search is not finding any of my imported records. Zebra is running and I have run koha-rebuild-zebra without error.
19:58 ivan_ I am not sure how to tell if the the rebuild even worked. I have my rebuild command output if someone cares.
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