IRC log for #koha, 2014-06-12

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00:02 dcook Yay! The Australian Federal Police have taken my money.
00:02 dcook That's a good sign...
00:03 eythian And they've gone to Rarotonga!
00:05 dcook O_o
00:06 dcook Well done them. It was only 40 bucks :)
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01:27 dcook
01:28 dcook Huh...can't say I noticed that before
01:29 eythian well hopefully you're on 64-bit anyway
01:31 dcook Hope so :D
01:37 dcook Hmm maybe not...
01:39 dcook That's a bit nasty
01:47 pianohacker hmm. Is there a coding style reason Koha::MetadataRecord doesn't include a convenient constructor?
01:48 eythian I can't check it right now, but maybe it doesn't need to.
01:49 eythian If it's using Class::Accessor, the default might be enough
02:01 eythian <-- wizzyrea, here's a beer release for you :)
02:04 ibeardslee I think I may have to try that just for the sake of having tried it and it appearing in my untappd list
02:07 * wizzyrea doesn't know whether to be amused or offended
02:07 wizzyrea a bit of both, likely. :D
02:27 gmcharlt wizzyrea: depends on how good it tastes, perhaps ;)
02:40 pianohacker what the heck is an american pale ale?
02:41 ibeardslee
02:54 pianohacker til
03:54 dcook Yikes..
03:55 pastebot "dcook" at pasted "fetching from origin" (9 lines) at
03:56 dcook Hmm..pruned it and now it works. Weird..
03:56 rangi yep
03:57 rangi git usually tells you exactly what you need to do to fix
03:57 rangi its because i switch what was a branch, into a dir
03:57 rangi basically a branch you had fetched had been deleted upstream
03:57 rangi so you needed to prune your local copy
03:59 dcook Not sure I understand the branch vs dir thing, but makes sense otherwise :)
04:00 eythian dcook: ls .git/refs/heads
04:00 eythian all a branch is is a file that points to a commit hash
04:01 eythian (whenever a git gc runs, they actually get packed away for faster access, so it's not _quite_ that simple, but it more or less is.)
04:03 dcook Right...but you can also have a directory that stores branches within it?
04:03 eythian sure
04:03 eythian look in the origin direction within that.
04:03 eythian oh actually
04:03 eythian that shouldn't exist
04:04 eythian I think it's a legacy of when I screwed something up in my repo
04:04 dcook "refs/remotes/origin/MM-OPAC" was stale
04:04 dcook and "MM-OPAC/bug_11169" was new
04:04 eythian but anyway, whenever you call something 'branch/name', that's a directory.
04:04 dcook "refs/remotes/origin/MM-OPAC" looks funny as though
04:04 dcook Good to know :)
04:04 eythian that's just the full name
04:04 dcook I'm surprised it's used though
04:05 dcook Is it because it is stale/deleted?
04:05 eythian so probably there was a file there, and it wanted a directory there instead, so thing blew up until you cleaned it.
04:05 dcook I think it was like rangi said. It wanted a branch but it wasn't there anymore, so it 'sploded
04:05 dcook branch/file*
04:06 dcook I do love me some git..
04:06 dcook ^ not sarcasm
04:06 dcook I actually do really like it
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05:39 eythian hi cait
05:39 eythian and hi sophie_m
05:39 cait hi eythian
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06:24 cait @wunder Konstanz
06:24 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 21.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on June 12, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1022 hPa (Rising).
06:25 dcook Hmm, I think I actually get our Z39.50 code now...mostly
06:25 dcook Could really benefit from some functional decomposition, me thinks
06:25 * eythian nominates dcook the expert in that too.
06:25 dcook When I have the time, I so want to
06:26 magnuse @wunder boo
06:26 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on June 12, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling).
06:26 dcook Actually, it's tempting just to document the crap out of what we have right now...
06:26 * dcook might do that tomorrow...
06:29 * magnuse cheers dcook on
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06:44 reiveune hello
06:44 wahanui privet, reiveune
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06:49 magnuse @wunder marseille
06:49 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 22.1°C (8:49 AM CEST on June 12, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
06:50 alex_a bonjour
06:50 wahanui niihau, alex_a
06:50 magnuse bonjour france
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06:57 alex_a salut magnuse
07:00 magnuse hiya alex_a
07:04 magnuse woohoo for bug 6254
07:05 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6254 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , can't set patron privacy by default
07:10 dcook Mmm lovely encoding issues...
07:11 Joubu hello #koha
07:11 dcook salut Joubu
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07:23 gaetan_B hello
07:23 wahanui hola, gaetan_B
07:26 dcook Got to love when you retrieve a record via z39.50 but can't get it through a library's actual catalogue
07:27 dcook Hmm, maybe that's a the data I'm getting from Voyagar via z39.50 is rather...weird
07:30 dcook Bleargh...then again...
07:31 magnuse gmcharlt++ for working on bug 11944
07:31 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8
07:31 * dcook needs to apprentice under gmcharlt for all things UTF8/encoding related
07:31 magnuse dcook: weird as in "it's a MARC record"
07:31 magnuse ?
07:32 magnuse yeah, encoding issues suck
07:32 dcook As far as I know, everything I'm doing should be UTF8 clean but getting issues :/
07:32 magnuse :-(
07:33 magnuse there was a blogpost about unicode and perl, i havn't read it yet...
07:33 dcook I think I've read every one of them :p
07:33 dcook Most of the comprehensive ones seem to say it's technically impossible
07:34 magnuse ah, it was stackoverflow:[…]y-default/6163129
07:34 dcook Yeah, I think that's the one I read the most recently :/
07:35 magnuse ah
07:35 magnuse the "𝕭𝖔𝖎𝖑𝖊𝖗⸗𝖕𝖑𝖆𝖙𝖊  ð–‹ð–”𝖗  ð–€ð–“𝖎𝖈𝖔𝖉ð​–Šâ¸—𝕬𝖜𝖆𝖗𝖊  ð•®ð–”𝖉𝖊" looks pretty crazy
07:35 magnuse but it looks like some of it is not related to unicode...
07:36 dcook Now it seems to be working...for no reason at all
07:36 dcook I noticed my browser had switched encodings for some reason...even though it had been on unicode
07:36 * dcook had checked about 15 minutes ago
07:37 eythian now consider that perl has among the best UTF8 support anywhere.
07:37 eythian on that thought, I'm leaving :)
07:37 dcook eythian: Oh God, I know...PHP is a nightmare...
07:37 dcook Night :)
07:37 * dcook should really go home too..
07:37 dcook Or to the vet rather..
07:38 * dcook thinks he must be wicked as he doesn't appear to get rest..
07:38 magnuse dcook: you need to be examined by a vet?!?
07:38 eythian I guess that's your only option with your current government breaking your health system
07:38 magnuse have fun eythian
07:38 dcook eythian: I think both my governments are breaking their respective health systems :/
07:39 * dcook is thinking that one of the records from Voyager was already badly encoded...
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07:43 magnuse howdydoo ashimema and drojf
07:43 ashimema morning magnuse
07:43 drojf hi magnuse and #koha
07:49 dcook I suppose I could probably tell more precisely if I looked at the data with a hex editor...
07:51 magnuse fun fact: in norwegian "witch" = "heks", pronounced exactly like "hex"
07:51 dcook That is a fun fact!
07:51 dcook :)
07:52 dcook Ahh, how is it 5:50...
07:52 dcook ciao all
08:01 magnuse have fun dcook
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09:15 Joubu new bug found relies on Perl hashes key order, see bug 12409
09:15 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12409 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , The test t/db_dependent/Record.t fails with Perl 5.18.2
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09:47 magnuse hm, isn't it quite common to want the userid to be equal to the cardnumber?
09:50 magnuse how are libraries handling that? scanning the cardnumber both into the cardnumber and the userid ("Username") fields?
09:51 magnuse hiya khall
09:51 khall mornin magnuse!
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09:54 fridolin hie all
09:55 fridolin jenkins has a pb updating from GIT, it sould be accessed manualy I think
09:55 fridolin it's the pb : stderr: error: unable to resolve reference refs/remotes/origin/MM-OPAC/bug_11169: Not a directory
09:55 fridolin it is corrected by a prune commande
09:59 * cait waves to khall
09:59 cait and to fridolin :)
10:00 khall mornin cait!
10:00 fridolin hie cait and khall
10:00 cait magnuse: not usual here I'd say - we have libraries using chip cards and they need the userid to be different (something that is actually printed on the card andk nown by the user)
10:01 fridolin khall: cait : do you know who manages Jenkins ?
10:01 khall I always though it was rangi
10:02 cait i thik he and gmcharlt can access jenkins, not sure about the nodes
10:09 fridolin gmcharlt: rangi : someone is there ?
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10:15 magnuse cait: i found a jquery solution:[…]assing_Cardnumber.2Fbarcode_through_to_UserID :-)
10:16 Joubu fridolin: I already launched the git prune cmd 2 days ago
10:21 ashimema I tihnk i've found a bug in the packages fix for adding .conf to apache config files..
10:21 * cait waves to ashimema
10:21 ashimema koha-create still tries a 'a2ensite instancename' without the .conf suffix.. can anyone lese varify this?
10:21 ashimema hi cait
10:22 cait ashimema: hm i thought we had fixed that
10:22 cait ashimema: maybe not - sounds like a bug
10:23 cait bug 12312 - maybe a similar fix is needed?
10:23 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12312 major, P1 - high, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , 3.16 packages ask to change Apache configuration even if Apache version is < 2.4
10:23 ashimema I'm installing a new server now
10:23 cait see the last patch there
10:23 ashimema it doesn't break apache 2.2
10:23 cait ah... but create has to do one thing... os i guess it shoudl do .conf...
10:25 ashimema reading bug now.
10:25 ashimema looks like exactly the issue.
10:27 ashimema the patch is obviosly not in the package yet.. unless my cusotm pacakge has fallen behind somehow.
10:27 ashimema thanks cait
10:29 fridolin Joubu: ok. Jenkins is broken or another reason then
10:34 cait ashimema: i think it should be in 31.6.1
10:35 cait hm 3.16.1 then, we discovered it installing 3.16
10:36 ashimema infrrf
10:39 cait huh? :)
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10:55 francharb Good morning
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12:21 oleonard Hi #koha
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12:31 cait hi oleonard :)
12:31 Joubu khall: around?
12:31 khall yo
12:32 Joubu khall: hi! You wrote a patch to fix the DB access problem from UT (when Dbix create a new connexion)
12:33 Joubu khall: I though the patch was in master, but it seems no...
12:33 Joubu khall: do you remember the bug number?
12:33 Joubu not sure my first sentence is understandable...
12:34 khall let me find it...
12:35 magnuse Joubu, khall: have you looked at Test::DBIx::Class? it's pretty neat, i think
12:36 khall yes, yes I did. However, gmcharlt didn't like the approach. I used the DBI handle for DBIC, and he wanted to use the DBIC handle for DBI instead. A patch was promised weeks ago, I think everyone should start sharpening their sticks and begin poking! ; )
12:36 khall[…]_bug.cgi?id=11891
12:36 huginn Bug 11891: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, In Discussion , Make Koha::Schema use C4::Context->dbh
12:37 magnuse Test::DBIx::Class lets you mock data easily
12:37 khall neat!
12:38 khall Joubu: feel free to test and qa that patch. It's really Tomas's call now.
12:38 Joubu Actually, the problem I found is that t/db_dpt/Circulation_issue.t fails because some category is inserted using the handler created by C4::Context but C4::Member::AddMember use DBIC to retrieve the categorycode...
12:38 khall We can always put this in master now, and switch to the inverse when gmcharlt supplies his patch
12:38 Joubu *some categories are*
12:38 khall Joubu: yep, I've seen issues like that before
12:39 khall I think this is a serious problem that needs to be addressed.
12:39 khall I posted bug 11891 three months ago
12:39 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11891 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, In Discussion , Make Koha::Schema use C4::Context->dbh
12:40 Joubu khall: ok, thanks for the bug number!
12:40 khall np!
12:41 gmcharlt khall: there are problems with that patch
12:41 gmcharlt but I've got a better version almost ready to go
12:41 * gmcharlt goes back to bed; more later
12:41 khall gmcharlt: excellent! I guess everyone can put away their sticks ; )
12:43 pastebot "magnuse" at pasted "here's how i'm using Test::DBIx::Class in a soon-to-be-submitted patch, hope it makes sense!" (47 lines) at
12:43 Joubu gmcharlt: I just posted a note, I didn't see you were around
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14:21 ashimema Test::DBIx::Class is cool..
14:21 ashimema I like mocking data as much as pos..
14:21 ashimema not that my unit testing is currenlty up to mcuh.. still an area i'm leanring in..
14:41 Joubu rangi: around?
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15:03 ztajoli Hi, Zeno Tajoli
15:04 oleonard Hi Zeno
15:07 Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.16.0 is available! Next general meeting is 9 and 10 July 2014 at 22:00 and 15:00 UTC. Welcome to the IRC home of Koha Please use for pastes.
15:10 ztajoli No one here fro Dev Meeting ?
15:11 reiveune bye
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15:14 drojf ztajoli: dev meeting was yesterday
15:16 ztajoli sorry I read the wrong date (:-->
15:16 Joubu @later tell rangi: could you please add the 3.16 entry for the version field on bugzilla?
15:17 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
15:18 Joubu @later tell rangi: I don't know at all why jenkins fails on 3.14. I think we should execute the git prune cmd but I don't understand where (I tried workspace/Koha_master and workspace/Koha_3.14)
15:18 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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15:50 ztajoli Bye
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16:24 gaetan_B bye
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17:37 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
18:02 mtompset Is someone going to git remote prune the 3.14.x building VM?
18:18 oleonard mtompset: With what browser do you see tooltips for alt attributes?
18:18 mtompset I was expecting tooltips for alts, that isnt to say I have seen it. I just don't recall seeing title in the HTML when I do.
18:19 mtompset I use firefox under Windows for the most part.
18:37 pastebot "nengard" at pasted "what does this mean when i try to fetch the newest code ..." (13 lines) at
18:41 nengard any git experts around to explain the above for me?
18:41 nengard gmcharlt maybe?
18:41 gmcharlt nengard: rangi did some maintenance on the git repo during the weekend
18:41 gmcharlt all you need to do is run
18:42 gmcharlt git remote prune origin
18:43 ashimema that's been asked a few times of late.
18:43 nengard okay, I think I got it
18:43 nengard thanks
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19:19 pianohacker rangi++
19:19 pianohacker that's so much nicer
19:32 mtompset ashimema: Yes it has been asked a few times.
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19:53 * cait waves
20:18 mtompset Greetings, cait.
20:18 * mtompset tries to get his abode flash to play again... silly windows upgrading process!
20:20 cait hi mtj
20:20 cait hm,... too slow
22:22 mtj hi cait :)
22:22 cait hi mtj :)
22:28 mtj oops, on fone
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