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| 01:01 |
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tcohen |
night #koha |
| 01:31 |
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tcohen |
@wunder quito, ecuador |
| 01:31 |
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huginn |
tcohen: The current temperature in Yanahuaico, Quito, Ecuador is 14.1°C (8:30 PM ECT on June 10, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Rising). |
| 01:33 |
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dcook |
@wunder sydney, australia |
| 01:33 |
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huginn |
dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 18.0°C (11:00 AM EST on June 11, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Falling). |
| 01:33 |
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dcook |
Hm, maybe I should go outside... |
| 01:33 |
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dcook |
hi btw :) |
| 01:34 |
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eythian |
@wunder nzwn |
| 01:34 |
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huginn |
eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (1:00 PM NZST on June 11, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 01:35 |
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tcohen |
hi dcook |
| 01:37 |
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tcohen |
i need internet to work flawlessly in the hotel, right now |
| 01:37 |
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tcohen |
is it too much to ask? |
| 01:40 |
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tcohen |
eythian: i liked your email on the packages |
| 01:40 |
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eythian |
cool |
| 01:40 |
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tcohen |
1 question about it: |
| 01:41 |
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tcohen |
if it was possible to force koha-common-3.14 -> koha-common-3.16 once 3.14 reaches EOL |
| 01:41 |
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eythian |
not that I know of |
| 01:41 |
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tcohen |
something like a stub package that pulls the koha-common-3.16 dependency |
| 01:41 |
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eythian |
not without having another package above it that controls that dependency |
| 01:42 |
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tcohen |
hypothetically |
| 01:42 |
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eythian |
so you could have 'koha-stable' that causes it to change. |
| 01:43 |
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tcohen |
i was thinking it might be possible to have koha-common-3.14 be replaced by a stub package that pulls the next one or something like that |
| 01:43 |
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eythian |
Hmm. I suppose you could. But then anyone who wants to keep 3.14 would be forced to upgrade, which defeats part of the purpose. |
| 01:44 |
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tcohen |
i see it as a point of balance |
| 01:44 |
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tcohen |
between forcing the early upgrade, and keeping the old version that reached EOL |
| 01:45 |
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eythian |
If I were going that route, I'd probably have packages that depend on the current appropriate series, and have them do the upgrading. |
| 01:47 |
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tcohen |
interesting |
| 01:47 |
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wahanui |
it has been said that interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 01:47 |
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tcohen |
looks like what i was thinking of should need three levels, right? |
| 01:48 |
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tcohen |
koha-3.14 being a meta package depending on koha-common-3.14 |
| 01:48 |
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eythian |
probably yeah, something like that. |
| 01:49 |
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tcohen |
and we should finally make koha-common-3.14 have a dialog for setting a single instance |
| 01:50 |
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eythian |
Hmm. At the least I'd like to have it configure koha-sites.conf, but it's possibly worth having it optionally walk through creating an instance. |
| 01:51 |
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tcohen |
ahhh |
| 01:51 |
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* tcohen |
agrees on setting koha-sites.conf |
| 01:53 |
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tcohen |
eythian, btw has there been any discussion (at the beginning) on having sort of "instance registry" file for tracking instance creation parameters? |
| 01:54 |
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eythian |
how do you mean? |
| 01:54 |
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tcohen |
think of a json/yaml file where the maintenance/update scripts can take a look for making the right decisions |
| 01:54 |
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eythian |
though, regardless of what you mean, I think the answer is no :) |
| 01:54 |
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eythian |
ah, I see. |
| 01:54 |
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eythian |
No, but I think it would be a good idea. |
| 01:57 |
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* tcohen |
will try some ecuatorian beer right now, with the hope internet will be usable when he's back |
| 01:58 |
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eythian |
:) |
| 02:07 |
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pianohacker |
A vim plugin, of all things, leads me to ask if parentheses around the condition in a one-line conditional ('print "hi" if ( $hello )') are common convention |
| 02:09 |
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eythian |
I don't tend to do it. |
| 02:10 |
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eythian |
but I definitely have done it. |
| 02:10 |
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pianohacker |
Our perltidyrc doesn't do put them there... interesting. You see thm in all sorts of examples, always thought they were mandatory |
| 02:11 |
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eythian |
only mandatory on the convential if form. |
| 02:11 |
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pianohacker |
never a dull moment when you earn your daily bread from the perl parser |
| 02:12 |
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eythian |
heh |
| 02:13 |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596001735.do |
| 02:14 |
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pianohacker |
I do need to read that. |
| 02:14 |
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jcamins |
I think it might actually be available online, though I'm not sure. |
| 02:14 |
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pianohacker |
looks like there's a $30 PDF download, worthwhile investment |
| 02:15 |
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eythian |
It's worth reading, however read it critically. |
| 02:15 |
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eythian |
Also, skip the part on OO, I've been told. |
| 02:16 |
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jcamins |
I read the entire thing. |
| 02:16 |
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jcamins |
In one ear, out the other. |
| 02:17 |
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pianohacker |
eythian: by the way, I had a conversation with galen about the lwp thing. He mentioned that it was probably a good idea to not introduce a Depends in a minor version, and would prefer to have a koha-overdrive-perl-deps package for the 3.16 cycle |
| 02:18 |
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pianohacker |
would that be a possibility |
| 02:18 |
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pianohacker |
? |
| 02:18 |
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eythian |
pianohacker: yeahh.... |
| 02:18 |
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eythian |
I'd probably put it in as a recommends. |
| 02:18 |
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pianohacker |
sorry to be the bearer of work :/ |
| 02:18 |
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eythian |
and then in 3.18 move it to work normally. |
| 02:19 |
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eythian |
if it's a recommends it shouldn't cause problems. |
| 02:22 |
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tcohen |
logo? |
| 02:22 |
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wahanui |
logo is included in the tm I believe |
| 02:25 |
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tcohen |
is there a repository with banners and logos for presentations? |
| 02:25 |
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eythian |
I thought I saw something on the wiki once |
| 02:25 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 02:26 |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]s_and_Explanation you can get the logo there as an svg |
| 02:26 |
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rangi |
(down the bottom) |
| 02:26 |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Con12_logo_design |
| 02:27 |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ack-and-white.jpg i mostly use this one |
| 02:28 |
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tcohen |
thanks rangi and eythian |
| 02:34 |
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tcohen |
I f*ing love inkscape |
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irma |
g'day all |
| 04:02 |
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irma |
I wonder if funding has been secured for "Koha Development Opportunity : Display of images in OPAC from multiple sources" |
| 04:02 |
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irma |
as i am thinking about posting it on the kohaOZ elist |
| 04:03 |
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tcohen |
hi irma |
| 04:03 |
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irma |
hi tcohen :-) |
| 04:07 |
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eythian |
irma: see kathryn's followup post from this morning. |
| 04:07 |
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eythian |
(short answer is "yes" :) |
| 04:07 |
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irma |
tcohen are you designing a Kohacon2014 logo? |
| 04:07 |
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tcohen |
i'm not |
| 04:08 |
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tcohen |
there's other people on that |
| 04:08 |
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irma |
a team gets more work done :-) |
| 04:08 |
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tcohen |
i'm "selling" Koha to ecuatorian universities and public institutions tomorrow and am preparing my presentation |
| 04:08 |
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tcohen |
:-D |
| 04:09 |
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irma |
tcohen you might like to add http://library.rijksmuseum.nl/ |
| 04:09 |
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tcohen |
"selling" meaning convincing them to move open source and create an ecuatorian community |
| 04:09 |
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tcohen |
i wont add it |
| 04:09 |
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irma |
tcohen yep ... I understand ... and lots of "reassuring" |
| 04:09 |
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tcohen |
i'mjealous |
| 04:09 |
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tcohen |
:-P |
| 04:10 |
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tcohen |
(kidding of course, it looks impresive!) |
| 04:10 |
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irma |
tcohen Hope you win someone over tomorrow! Go Koha! |
| 04:10 |
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tcohen |
their main concern is the long term |
| 04:11 |
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tcohen |
which we have covered :-D |
| 04:11 |
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irma |
Go tcohen! |
| 04:12 |
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tcohen |
Go Koha! |
| 04:12 |
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tcohen |
:-D |
| 04:18 |
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irma |
eythian ++ thanks for the heads up....ah yes ... this is good news ... let's hope it will make it to koha 3.18 |
| 04:18 |
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eythian |
irma: rangi was working on it today, making good progress. |
| 04:18 |
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irma |
*into |
| 04:19 |
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irma |
cool |
| 04:48 |
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pianohacker |
question for any catalogers around. If a record doesn't have a title, where should it appear in a title-sorted set of records? |
| 04:49 |
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pianohacker |
dcook: if you're around, would like to poke your brain on this :) |
| 04:50 |
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tcohen |
kohacon13 group photo? |
| 04:53 |
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eythian |
pianohacker: I think Koha considered 245$a to be mandatory, so I guess it shouldn't appear :) |
| 04:54 |
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pianohacker |
eythian: fair enough :) this is applying to z39.50 search, though, so expanding the question to other fields that could be blank? |
| 04:56 |
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* dcook |
perks up |
| 04:57 |
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dcook |
That's a good question. |
| 04:57 |
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dcook |
I don't think I've ever catalogued anything without a title of some kind |
| 04:57 |
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dcook |
Why doesn't it have a title? |
| 04:57 |
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pianohacker |
Say the question, then, is sorting records by author |
| 04:57 |
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dcook |
I'm thinking maybe it has a 240 instead of a 245? |
| 04:57 |
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pianohacker |
Or that |
| 04:58 |
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dcook |
Hmm.. |
| 04:58 |
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dcook |
I imagine the answer would be to sort if by the 1xx entry |
| 04:58 |
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eythian |
I'm totally stuck on how to approach this browse search interface in a sane manner. I can do it in a way that involves fetching all the values to the code that generates it, but that has a real potential of being slow. |
| 04:58 |
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dcook |
sort it* |
| 04:58 |
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tcohen |
bye #koha, have a nice day/night |
| 04:58 |
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dcook |
laterz tcohen |
| 04:59 |
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tcohen |
goodbyezz |
| 04:59 |
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pianohacker |
dcook: Right. Suppose you can't find an author-like field for a record, though. (And this is Z39.50 searching, so it's beyond your control.) Would you put those empty-authored records at the end or beginning? |
| 04:59 |
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pianohacker |
bye tcohen |
| 04:59 |
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pianohacker |
heh |
| 05:01 |
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dcook |
pianohacker: Dang. No title and no author? :p |
| 05:02 |
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dcook |
Well, I think most automated sorters would probably put it at the beginning...but I think it might make more functional sense to put it at the end. |
| 05:02 |
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pianohacker |
dcook: Let me fill you in on what I'm doing, my question might be less nonsensical then :) I'm working on a metasearch backend for Rancor, and trying to add sorting |
| 05:02 |
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dcook |
Right-o |
| 05:02 |
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* dcook |
seems to recall the demo at Kohacon13 :) |
| 05:02 |
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pianohacker |
this unfortunately has to be done by the metasearch backend, target-side sorting seems to be inconsistent |
| 05:02 |
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pianohacker |
(reimplementing on my own what pazpar2 formerly did) |
| 05:03 |
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pianohacker |
so I fetch 100 records from each target then sort all the results from the targets together |
| 05:03 |
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pianohacker |
(currently, for a proof of concept, by title) |
| 05:07 |
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dcook |
Sounds good to me |
| 05:08 |
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pianohacker |
dcook: thus my question. I like your answer, though, makes sense that if you're sorting by a field things without that field are probably useless to you |
| 05:09 |
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dcook |
I would think so |
| 05:09 |
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dcook |
I noticed the other day that some Z39.50 results I was getting back didn't have titles... |
| 05:09 |
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dcook |
And were sorted to the top |
| 05:09 |
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dcook |
They annoyed me as they weren't useful for my test but I wonder why they didn't have titles.. |
| 05:10 |
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* dcook |
does a quick check while balancing the other things he's doing because why not :D |
| 05:10 |
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dcook |
Hmm can't remember which db now.. |
| 05:11 |
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dcook |
Hmm, would require a restore and I'm using that db.. |
| 05:11 |
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dcook |
pianohacker: So not entirely sure on that one, alas :/ |
| 05:11 |
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dcook |
How hard would it be to make it configurable? |
| 05:11 |
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pianohacker |
no worries, thanks anyway |
| 05:12 |
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dcook |
Even if only configurable in a backend sense (i.e. easy to change later :P) |
| 05:12 |
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pianohacker |
the latter is a good idea. |
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pianohacker |
hi ashimema! |
| 05:33 |
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ashimema |
Hi pianohacker |
| 05:33 |
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pianohacker |
how's it going? |
| 05:33 |
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ashimema |
Not bad, bloody busy at the mo, but generally not bad |
| 05:33 |
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ashimema |
How's you? |
| 05:34 |
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ashimema |
I've made a date with cait to go through shib next week.. Promising |
| 05:35 |
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ashimema |
How's rancor coming along |
| 05:36 |
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pianohacker |
ashimema: glad to hear. Rancor is coming along fairly well, had to write a new Z39.50 search backend to replace pazpar2 (thus why I'm working at this hour), but otherwise slowly getting polished :) |
| 05:40 |
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pianohacker |
ashimema: what's keeping you busy? |
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pianohacker |
hi cait |
| 05:58 |
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cait |
hi |
| 05:58 |
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wahanui |
niihau, cait |
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| 06:07 |
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ashimema |
Got a few koha projects going on, but actually most of my time has been spent on another product of late |
| 06:07 |
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ashimema |
Been rewriting a php mess in perl |
| 06:08 |
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ashimema |
Oh, shame you've had to move away from pazpar2, what was wrong with it? |
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| 06:14 |
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ashimema |
Back.. Connection comes and goes allot this morning |
| 06:14 |
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ashimema |
Did I kiss anywything pianohacker |
| 06:14 |
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ashimema |
Lol.. s/kiss/miss/ |
| 06:15 |
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pianohacker |
oh jeez. have fun with that PHP. And don't go kissin' no zebras |
| 06:15 |
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ashimema |
s/anywything/anything/ |
| 06:15 |
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ashimema |
:-P |
| 06:16 |
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ashimema |
So yeah, what went wrong with pazpar.. It'll be nice to rip out that dependency.. But hopefully its not left you with too much work |
| 06:16 |
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ashimema |
Ouch..hard to deploy is one thing.. But segfaults.. That really isn't good |
| 06:19 |
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ashimema |
Oh dear.. So are you using another library for z.. Or having to build your own. |
| 06:20 |
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ashimema |
I've not found any others myself |
| 06:20 |
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pianohacker |
Using YAZ, seems to be working well enough |
| 06:22 |
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ashimema |
Cool, well we've been using yaz allot for years.. Things its somewhat better maintained. Though the docs are still pretty incomprehensible |
| 06:22 |
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pianohacker |
Yeah, though only to the level that most anything having to deal with Z39.50 is :) |
| 06:23 |
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ashimema |
True, Z itself is pretty incomprehsible |
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reiveune |
hello |
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pianohacker |
hi reiveune |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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pianohacker |
hello, gaetan_B |
| 06:56 |
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wahanui |
hello, gaetan_B is looking at bug 9059 because of another problem i noticed, i want to ask you what you think : |
| 06:56 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9059 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, CLOSED FIXED, Increase size of opac-sendbasket window |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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fridolin |
hie all |
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gaetan_B |
hi pianohacker how are you doing ? |
| 07:00 |
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pianohacker |
gaetan_B: good, just working late. How are you? |
| 07:00 |
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gaetan_B |
good :) the day is only starting here |
| 07:02 |
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* magnuse |
waves |
| 07:02 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
| 07:02 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 15.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on June 11, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling). |
| 07:02 |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
| 07:02 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 22.8°C (9:02 AM CEST on June 11, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:02 |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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pianohacker |
marseille++ |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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Joubu |
Does someone use CAS? It seems the CAS auth does not work on master, see bug 12398. |
| 07:24 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12398 major, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , CAS authentication not working |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 22.2°C (10:00 AM CEST on June 11, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:02 |
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cait |
hm guess it will be just as warm as yesterday today :( |
| 08:06 |
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magnuse |
cait: we have nice temps up here :-) |
| 08:06 |
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cait |
too warm here for my taste :) |
| 08:06 |
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cait |
we had a thunderstorm last night, but it doesn't look like it did much |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
| 08:31 |
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magnuse |
hiya drojf |
| 08:33 |
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drojf |
hei magnuse :) |
| 08:36 |
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cait |
hi drojf :) |
| 08:36 |
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drojf |
hi cait :) |
| 08:44 |
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magnuse |
woohoo, Viktor got his first patch in! |
| 08:45 |
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cait |
:) |
| 08:46 |
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magnuse |
hm, doing a git pull on master now gives me an error related to MM-OPAC/bug_11169 |
| 08:46 |
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magnuse |
anyone else seen that? |
| 08:47 |
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pastebot |
"magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "git pull on master" (14 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/37 |
| 08:47 |
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Joubu |
magnuse: yes, 2 days ago. You can launch the suggested git command |
| 08:50 |
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magnuse |
Joubu: thanks, that did indeed solve it |
| 08:58 |
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magnuse |
bug 11401 introduces some new perl module dependencies - does it make sense to list them as "not required" in PerlDependencies.pm, since the functionality will only be used by norwegian libraries? |
| 08:58 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11401 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Add support for Norwegian national library card |
| 09:00 |
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Joubu |
magnuse: Yes, I think so. What is the deps? |
| 09:07 |
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magnuse |
SOAP::Lite, Crypt::GCrypt, Convert::BaseN |
| 09:09 |
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magnuse |
...and Test::DBIx::Class |
| 09:13 |
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cait |
hm the last one... looks generally useful somehow :) |
| 09:18 |
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magnuse |
yeah, might make sense to require that |
| 09:22 |
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magnuse |
any tips on how to set the min_ver for new dependencies? |
| 09:22 |
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cait |
hm not sure |
| 09:22 |
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cait |
maybe the version that is in debian if that's what worked for yu? |
| 09:23 |
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magnuse |
guess i'm not even sure how to tell the versions i have installed... |
| 09:23 |
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magnuse |
i have tested on ubuntu, so far |
| 09:24 |
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magnuse |
ah, i can use "About Koha" to check the versions :-) |
| 09:28 |
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cait |
reminder: today is dev meeting! |
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magnuse |
yeah, at dinnertime... |
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drojf |
when is it? |
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drojf |
(and why is it not in the topic?^^) |
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cait |
because i couldn't figure out the right command to make that work when i tried yesterday |
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drojf |
what about /topic ? :) |
| 09:35 |
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cait |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ing,_11_June_2014 |
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Topic for #koha is now Koha Dev Meeting - today - 11 June 2014, 15:00 and 22:00 UTC |
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cait |
oh |
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drojf |
:) |
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cait |
it worked. |
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cait |
:) |
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drojf |
15 utc is 13 for us? |
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cait |
i think 17:00 |
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drojf |
oh no 17 |
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cait |
look at the links |
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drojf |
right |
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magnuse |
cait++ |
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magnuse |
and 22 is midnight |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
i will run out early form the first one |
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cait |
spanish lessons, but should be there for 45 mins or so |
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magnuse |
gah, looks like Convert::BaseN and Test::DBIx::Class are not packaged for debian |
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kivilahtio |
http://www.karjalainen.fi/uuti[…]at-turhaa-viestia |
| 10:09 |
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kivilahtio |
its a bit in finnish |
| 10:09 |
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kivilahtio |
but still :) |
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cait |
hopefully not about the email scandal? |
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cait |
:) |
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kivilahtio |
exactly about the email scandal |
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cait |
oh noes |
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cait |
is it very bad? |
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kivilahtio |
maybe I am a bit crazy but I don't feel too bad about it |
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kivilahtio |
it might be because I am in such a shock still |
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cait |
poor kivilahtio :( |
| 10:13 |
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kivilahtio |
I havent really been out in the circulation area |
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kivilahtio |
but its not bad where i sit in |
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paxed |
with the room door closed and locked? |
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cait |
heh |
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kivilahtio |
unfortunately it is open |
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kivilahtio |
and all kinds of people walk in and out constantly |
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cait |
i am sorry you ran into that... but kinda glad we didn't |
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kivilahtio |
:) |
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cait |
... that's a bit mean probably *sends cookies* |
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kivilahtio |
somebody needs to take the hit |
| 10:15 |
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kivilahtio |
now and then |
| 10:15 |
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kivilahtio |
and we are piloting so... |
| 10:16 |
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cait |
i hope it's the last problem like this you run into |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: hum, or maybe it could be a good opportunity to ask for funding a rewrite of notifications... ;) |
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* cait |
waves at Joubu |
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cait |
will you be around this afternoon maybe |
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cait |
? |
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cait |
i hope i have time to give the patron generaion script a try :) |
| 10:22 |
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Joubu |
cait: yes, of course |
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cait |
cool :) ok, have to run out for a bit, bbl |
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Joubu |
ok, see you |
| 10:22 |
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cait |
Joubu: can you be around for the dev meeting today? the first one |
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cait |
? |
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Joubu |
cait: yes, I will try |
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cait |
nice :) |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: I think the notifications system works quite well? Albeit a BIT hard to modify apparently :) |
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cait |
gone now :) |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: unfortunately, there is no unit tests :-/ |
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kivilahtio |
propably unit tests wouldn't have caught that issue |
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kivilahtio |
it is a hard to test issue anyway |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: no, this issue would have been avoided with good unit tests. Or at least won't appear in the future... |
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kivilahtio |
well if you have good unit tests... |
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kivilahtio |
last I checked unit tests are a pain |
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cait |
kivilahtio: it depends on the area but thy don't have to be |
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cait |
i think the db_dependent ones are not too bad to write now |
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* cait |
is back :) |
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cait |
Joubu++ :) |
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cait |
hi khall :) |
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cait |
khall: could you take a look at your patches still in the needs sign off queue? some have comments with quesions |
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talljoy |
morning |
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oleonard |
Hi everyone |
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cait |
hi oleonard :) |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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cait |
Joubu: trying your script now :) |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 27.5°C (2:25 PM CEST on June 11, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
Joubu: quie ugly borrowers :) |
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* cait |
creates 2000 borrowers |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
the meeting is not today... but tomorrow |
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cait |
no it's today... i am just confused because we hada holiday on monday |
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magnuse |
lol |
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oleonard |
We need a meeting reminder bot |
| 12:39 |
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magnuse |
both on irc and the mailinglist(s) |
| 12:39 |
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magnuse |
hourly emails to all koha lists ;-) |
| 12:40 |
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oleonard |
Also a bot that do all my work all the time forever |
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drojf |
ou know it's a meeting when the emails stop. perfect! |
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drojf |
*you |
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cait |
ok, sent a reminder |
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oleonard |
cait++ |
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cait |
hope without too many mistakes |
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Joubu |
cait: yes, it is ugly... But it is the easier way I found :) |
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* oleonard |
realizes he hasn't even opened his email yet this morning |
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cait |
Joubu: i don't mind the ugliness :) |
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cait |
Joubu: i probably won't finish today before i have to run out again... but i am back on testing |
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cait |
oleonard: how many patrons does your library have int he database? |
| 12:54 |
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oleonard |
43178 (although not all are active patrons) |
| 12:54 |
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cait |
oleonard: oh that's a lot |
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cait |
i am upping mine to 10.000 now |
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cait |
i am testing bug9811 |
| 12:55 |
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cait |
bug 9811 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9811 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Patrons search improvements |
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cait |
Joubu: you around still? |
| 12:56 |
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Joubu |
cait: 125k in one of our bigger customer's DB. |
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cait |
there is something weird |
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cait |
the cardnumber does show up as 0 for the added patrons |
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cait |
but if I go to the record, they have a cardnumber |
| 12:57 |
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cait |
WfijQd.c.vhVedGT |
| 12:57 |
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cait |
for example |
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cait |
my older patrons have numeric cardnumbers that show up nicely it seems - could you take a look at that? |
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* magnuse |
created this script for generating borrowers many moons ago: https://github.com/Libriotech/[…]er/sim/patrons.pl |
| 12:57 |
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* magnuse |
needs some fresh air |
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Joubu |
cait: I didn't understand, sorry |
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cait |
give me a sec, i will explain again :) |
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cait |
Joubu: it will only display numeric cardnumbers - but cardnumbers can be alphanumeric |
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cait |
i just checked: when the cardnumber is 123456 it displays, when it's one of the strings you generated or any string that is, it shows 0 instead |
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Joubu |
cait: ok, reproduced. |
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cait |
I have to run in a few minuts, I will add a new comment to the bug in 10 mins |
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Joubu |
I added that in the sql query CAST(borrowers.cardnumber AS UNSIGNED) AS cardnumber |
| 13:04 |
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Joubu |
I don't know why :-/ |
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Joubu |
cait: patch sent. |
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cait |
now you were faster than me :) |
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cait |
much better now :) |
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cait |
Joubu: i am not sure about keeping the 'all' for the numer of results |
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cait |
i seems to make my browser almost crash with about 8000 patrons now |
| 13:14 |
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Joubu |
what do you suggest ? |
| 13:14 |
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Joubu |
100 is not enought |
| 13:15 |
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cait |
not sure... more making a note |
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Joubu |
Actually there is a regression if the "all" is not possible. |
| 13:15 |
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cait |
maybe it's ok... and a trianing question |
| 13:15 |
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cait |
ah ok |
| 13:15 |
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Joubu |
with master, it is possible to add "all patrons" to a list |
| 13:15 |
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cait |
we will keep it, it's not blocking really, just trying out a few mean things :) |
| 13:16 |
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cait |
i have a tiny thing: Branch in the filters should be labelled: library :) |
| 13:17 |
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Joubu |
khall: thank you for you new patch on bug 10612. It looks much more better and consistent |
| 13:17 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10612 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add ability to delete patrons with batch patron deletion tool |
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Joubu |
your* |
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Joubu |
cait: k, fixed |
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cait |
lol |
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cait |
i just wanted to add my notes! |
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Joubu |
ok sorry :) I wait for the note! |
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cait |
have to run - my bus leaves in 6 mins |
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cait |
bye all |
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Joubu |
cait: bye |
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francharb |
good morning #koha |
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bgkriegel |
Hi |
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* cait |
waves from the bookstore cafe :) |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 27.8°C (4:40 PM CEST on June 11, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
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Joubu |
Does someone can explain me why the location is not displayed on this screen : http://pro.test8.biblibre.com/[…]g/addbooks.pl?q=d for the second record |
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Joubu |
Actually, I know why, looking at the code. If the "not for loan" is set, the location is not displayed. But I don't understand why |
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* cait |
takes a look |
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cait |
what's the password joubu? |
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Joubu |
cait: test/test |
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Joubu |
cait: if I remove the "not for loan" (set it to blank) for the item of the second record and reindex zebra, the location disappears and I get nothing in the location cell |
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cait |
i think i have to pass |
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cait |
it doesn't seem logical |
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cait |
you mean location/ branch? |
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cait |
are we talking about the missing item frm liberty that is not listed? |
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* cait |
might be a bit confused :) |
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Joubu |
cait: http://pro.test8.biblibre.com/[…]g/addbooks.pl?q=d |
| 14:51 |
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Joubu |
there are 2 results |
| 14:51 |
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Joubu |
for the second one, the "location" column is empty |
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cait |
yes, the first one is also looking weird - it says 9 centerville, but there is also an item at liberty |
| 14:51 |
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wahanui |
okay, cait. |
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cait |
and that doesn't show either |
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Joubu |
hum yes, I didn't notice that... |
| 14:52 |
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Joubu |
so 2 bugs ? :-/ |
| 14:53 |
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Joubu |
cait: no, the "liberty" item is in transit |
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Joubu |
I suppose it is why it is not listed |
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cait |
this page is really confusing |
| 14:55 |
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cait |
i think i'd like to see a summary of the holdiings at all branches looking at that, but it seems to have some rules about what it shows |
| 14:55 |
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* cait |
better stays away from it |
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cait |
:) |
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gmcharlt |
good morning |
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cait |
hi gmcharlt :) |
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gmcharlt |
#startmeeting Development IRC meeting, 11 June 2014, part 1 |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed Jun 11 15:00:13 2014 UTC. The chair is gmcharlt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting, 11 June 2014, part 1) |
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huginn |
The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting__11_june_2014__part_1' |
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gmcharlt |
#info Agenda is wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting,_11_June_2014 |
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gmcharlt |
#topic Introductions |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting, 11 June 2014, part 1) |
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wahanui |
#info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
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oleonard |
#info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries |
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gmcharlt |
#info Galen Charlton, ESI |
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cait |
#info Katrin Fischer, BSZ |
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phasefx |
#info Jason Etheridge, ESI |
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slef |
#info MJ Ray, software.coop, England |
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thd |
#info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
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bgkriegel |
#info Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel, Cordoba, Argentina |
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Joubu |
#info Jonathan Druart, BibLibre |
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gmcharlt |
ok, thanks |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen is not here, so I'll skip the RM 3.18 update |
| 15:03 |
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gmcharlt |
#topic Deprecate the OPAC prog theme officially |
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Topic for #koha is now Deprecate the OPAC prog theme officially (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting, 11 June 2014, part 1) |
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gmcharlt |
so, we have a proposal to update the coding guidelines to officially deprecate the prog theme |
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gmcharlt |
and by extension, CCSR |
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cait |
ah yes, good point, also ccsr :) |
| 15:04 |
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cait |
I think we already decided that we will do it, but we should also add a note to the coding guidelines |
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cait |
and maybe we should decide when we will remove the files? |
| 15:05 |
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pastebot |
"gmcharlt" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Proposed wording" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/39 |
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cait |
+1 #wording |
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slef |
it'll take me a mo to open that |
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gmcharlt |
cait: IMO, ASAP |
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mtompset |
#info Mark Tompsett |
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gmcharlt |
and no new patches meant for master should touch those two themes |
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Joubu |
yes, I completely agree. Actually I think it is already the case. |
| 15:07 |
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slef |
welding seems OK |
| 15:07 |
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cait |
gmcharlt: I think the sooner the better too - it will help enforcing the coding guideline :) |
| 15:07 |
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gmcharlt |
Joubu: yeah, folks have already started with updating only Bootstrap |
| 15:07 |
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gmcharlt |
doesn't hurt to make it official |
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gmcharlt |
OK, any further comments on the wording before we vote? |
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cait |
I think by maintaining the coding guidelines better we make it easier for new developers not falling into traps |
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mtompset |
+1 # agreed on the nice wording |
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cait |
also people that have been out for a while or are not hanging around in irc all the time :) |
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gmcharlt |
*gasp* |
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Joubu |
There is a problem with the votes on paste.k-c.org, they won't be accessible in the future |
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gmcharlt |
is that possible?!?!? |
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gmcharlt |
;) |
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Joubu |
But maybe should we c/p on the wiki after the meeting |
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gmcharlt |
Joubu: I'll update the wiki ASAP tonight, assume that the change is approved |
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Joubu |
+1 |
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bgkriegel |
+1 |
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slef |
0 |
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cait |
gmcharlt: keep the paste safe somewhere? just in case rangi restarts the server |
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thd |
+0.5 |
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gmcharlt |
#startvote Shall the change to the coding guidelines to deprecate OPAC and CCSR be approved (http://paste.lisp.org/display/142855)? Yes, No, Abstain |
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huginn |
Begin voting on: Shall the change to the coding guidelines to deprecate OPAC and CCSR be approved (http://paste.lisp.org/display/142855)? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain. |
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huginn |
Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. |
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gmcharlt |
(note the paste.lisp.org version, which won't expire) |
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gmcharlt |
#vote Yes |
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oleonard |
#vote Yes |
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drojf |
#info Mirko Tietgen, lurking ^^ |
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Joubu |
#vote Yes |
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slef |
#vote abstain |
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bgkriegel |
#vote Yes |
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drojf |
#vote Yes |
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thd |
#vote Yes |
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phasefx |
#vote abstain |
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cait |
#vote yes |
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cait |
is it case sensitive? |
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cait |
#vote Yes |
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gmcharlt |
I don't think it is |
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* oleonard |
jails cait for voting twice |
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cait |
only the last vote counts - i read the instructions :) |
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thd |
#comment Do not like outsourcing to a project created by Twitter. |
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drojf |
we do that in europe ^^ |
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* gmcharlt |
rouses the Chicago zombie electorate |
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gmcharlt |
thd: it's licensed under the Apache License, and there's been no serious proposal to make any other way of having a responsive theme |
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gmcharlt |
one minute warning for closing the vote |
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gmcharlt |
#endvote |
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huginn |
Voted on "Shall the change to the coding guidelines to deprecate OPAC and CCSR be approved (http://paste.lisp.org/display/142855)?" Results are |
| 15:16 |
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huginn |
Yes (7): Joubu, cait, oleonard, gmcharlt, bgkriegel, thd, drojf |
| 15:16 |
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huginn |
Abstain (2): phasefx, slef |
| 15:17 |
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gmcharlt |
#agreed (pending confirmation) the coding guidelines will be updated per http://paste.lisp.org/display/142855 to discourage future patches from updating the prog and CCSR OPAC themes |
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thd |
gmcharlt: Yes, I know. I am not claiming a necessarily better alternatiive would be easily produced. |
| 15:18 |
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gmcharlt |
#topic UTF-8 Clean-up - Bug 11944 |
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Topic for #koha is now UTF-8 Clean-up - Bug 11944 (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting, 11 June 2014, part 1) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 |
| 15:18 |
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mtompset |
oleonard: She voted on my behalf? ;) |
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gmcharlt |
so where I'm at personally with this is I'm spending the next 1.5 weeks reviewing the patches |
| 15:19 |
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gmcharlt |
and working on some search issues that Joubu identified |
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Joubu |
\o/ |
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cait |
:) |
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Joubu |
gmcharlt++ |
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cait |
Joubu++ and gmcharlt++ |
| 15:19 |
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gmcharlt |
my goal is to (1) get it ready for signoff by the end of the month |
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cait |
let us know if there is help needed testing |
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cait |
i really want to see this patch series go in soon... and then we can move on to the next big problem :) |
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gmcharlt |
and schedule a GBSD in early July for as an opportunity for folks to run it throug its paces |
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gmcharlt |
at some point, I will be calling for volunteers (possibly including ESI) to host a test database or two |
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gmcharlt |
Joubu: and apropos of that, as far as the sandboxes are concerned, I anticipate at least one addition that may be relevant |
| 15:21 |
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Joubu |
gmcharlt: I can add the patches on 1 or 2 sandboxes. But I don't have a good DB to test |
| 15:21 |
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gmcharlt |
specifically, changing the default collation used by Koha MySQL database to utf8_unicode_ci |
| 15:22 |
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gmcharlt |
Joubu: see the last couple comments in bug 11811 for context on that |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11811 major, P1 - high, ---, dpavlin, In Discussion , tools/import_borrowers.pl doesn't support utf-8 encoded CSV |
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Joubu |
gmcharlt: ok, I note that |
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gmcharlt |
#action gmcharlt to review the patches and ready theme for signoff by end of June |
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gmcharlt |
#action gmcharlt to schedule a GBSD in early July for general testing |
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Joubu |
#action Joubu change the default collation to utf8_unicode_ci on sandboxes |
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thd |
*++ |
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Joubu |
#action Joubu take a look at bug 11811 |
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cait |
:) |
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gmcharlt |
any other comments on the UTF8 stuff before we move on? |
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bgkriegel |
possibility to backport to 3.16, 3.14...? (when it's ready) |
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Joubu |
I think we are close to have a good utf8 support into Koha :) |
| 15:25 |
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gmcharlt |
bgkriegel: maybe; I'm not sure at the moment |
| 15:26 |
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Joubu |
bgkriegel: outch... |
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bgkriegel |
Ok |
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thd |
Joubu: Yes, except that some of the problem is a regression from where we had already been. |
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mtompset |
Has any testing been added to prevent this type of regression again? |
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gmcharlt |
mtompset: I think you can rest assure that I'm not going to sign off without making sure that there's sufficient regressions tests |
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* cait |
likes regression tests :) |
| 15:28 |
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Joubu |
Currently there is no tests |
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thd |
Joubu: We will have good UTF-8 support when UTF-8 is the native character encoding for the multiverse. |
| 15:28 |
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mtompset |
And that was the problem. :) |
| 15:28 |
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gmcharlt |
Joubu: indeed; I fully expect to write a bunch |
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Joubu |
But look at the patches |
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mtompset |
Good to hear it will be rectified. |
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Joubu |
when you look at the code after the patches, you understand it is the way to do |
| 15:29 |
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cait |
i think it will put us in a cleaner state of things hopefully |
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Joubu |
the code is much more easy, no decode/encode everywhere |
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Joubu |
and the unit tests are not easy to write since the problem does not exist in a specific routine |
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gmcharlt |
nonetheless, /me will write tests :) |
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gmcharlt |
ok, moving on |
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gmcharlt |
#topic Big stuff we are working on |
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Topic for #koha is now Big stuff we are working on (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting, 11 June 2014, part 1) |
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gmcharlt |
so, to get us started |
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gmcharlt |
Joubu: what big stuff is BibLibre working on nowadays? |
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Joubu |
Hum, not really. We have some big stuffs, already submitted on bz |
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Joubu |
we plan to rewrite the ACQ vat/gst management |
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Joubu |
Laurence wrote a rfc, in french at the moment |
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Joubu |
no code will be written without communication and feedback on this rfc |
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gmcharlt |
is there a link to the French version of the RFC? |
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Joubu |
no |
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cait |
Joubu: cool :) it would be good i think to get some different countries involved, i think france and germany are probably similar |
| 15:34 |
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cait |
but i seem to remember that nz/hlt had some different expectations |
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cait |
would be good to get this settled and have everyone on the same page on how it shoudl work |
| 15:35 |
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Joubu |
yes, that why we need to communicate before writing any code |
| 15:35 |
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Joubu |
Same in Italy with talljoy |
| 15:35 |
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Joubu |
And I really need to see the batch modification for biblios (and all fixes for marc modification template) tested. It a very big work, very powerful. And that fixes critical problems with the existing feature. |
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thd |
cait: NZ/HLT had standard expectations which were not different to what anyone anywhere who actually worked in a real world acquisitions process would expect. |
| 15:35 |
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mtompset |
bug report number, Joubu? |
| 15:36 |
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cait |
thd: i didn't mean to imply that their expectations weren't correct |
| 15:36 |
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talljoy |
did i transport to italy? |
| 15:36 |
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talljoy |
i wish i was in italy.... |
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talljoy |
:-) |
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cait |
i think it just works differently in different countries - and it's good to communicate |
| 15:36 |
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cait |
so we don't miss something important redoing it |
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Joubu |
bugs 11413, 11319 and 11395 |
| 15:36 |
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gmcharlt |
and that includes hearing from the folks actually involved |
| 15:36 |
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gmcharlt |
fortunately, that's why we have a second part of this meeting :) |
| 15:37 |
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thd |
cait: rangi had once implied in error that NZ had special expectations which were not in fact special. |
| 15:37 |
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Joubu |
talljoy: Sorry, I think you were Zeno :) |
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talljoy |
:-D |
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gmcharlt |
thd: I think we can wait for rangi to provide input directly |
| 15:38 |
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cait |
Joubu: thx a lot for taking this on :) |
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thd |
gmcharlt: I am merely identifying the issue historically as a reminder. |
| 15:39 |
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mtompset |
11395 looks like something I may try to get around to testing. |
| 15:39 |
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Joubu |
The RFC looks complex, so I think all cases are possibles :) |
| 15:39 |
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gmcharlt |
#info A project to revamp tax calculation in acquisitions is being considered by BibLibre; an RFC will be published |
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gmcharlt |
ok, any other big projects? |
| 15:40 |
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Joubu |
mtompset: yes, bug 11395 is the sexy one. The others one are important too, they fixes some important issues |
| 15:40 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11395 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Batch modifications for records |
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thd |
Joubu: I believe that BibLibre would not be proposing something counter to what rangi had once identified as how acquisitions would be expected to work in NZ. |
| 15:41 |
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cait |
so other big projects? :) |
| 15:41 |
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Joubu |
gmcharlt: I think the column configuration for tables should be pushed soon, in order to adapt enough table before the 3.18 release |
| 15:41 |
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thd |
Joubu: If you consult with people who do a real world acquisitions job, even without computer automation you will avoid going astray :) |
| 15:42 |
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Joubu |
bug 10212 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10212 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Columns configuration for tables |
| 15:42 |
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cait |
Joubu: i am currently working through the patron search improvements, i hope to tackle that next (if noone else is faster :) ) |
| 15:42 |
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gmcharlt |
thd: and I think that point needs to be emphasized - we need folks who are *actually* dealing with the relevant tax processes in each country to provide input directly |
| 15:42 |
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gmcharlt |
with as few proxies as possible |
| 15:42 |
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gmcharlt |
Joubu: I'll take a look |
| 15:43 |
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Joubu |
thd: not sure to understand. rangi is starting to develop something? |
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thd |
Joubu: no, my comment merely refers to what had been a problem with some development from long ago. |
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Joubu |
I think the discussion around a gst rewrite could be started after we will suggest a rfc |
| 15:44 |
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gmcharlt |
agreed |
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thd |
Joubu: My comment was historical. |
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thd |
gmcharlt++ |
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Joubu |
the idea is not to break anything, just understand the code. I develop the multi VAT management, I don't understand anything at the code... And I'm sorry about that. |
| 15:45 |
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Joubu |
my first big dev on Koha... |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
always remember quote 123... it#s hard to keep up with libraries and their ideas :) |
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gmcharlt |
@quote get 123 |
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wahanui |
http://xkcd.com/1172/ |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 15:46 |
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Joubu |
:) |
| 15:46 |
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gmcharlt |
ok, moving on |
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gmcharlt |
re action items from the previosu meeting |
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Joubu |
nobody else has "big stuffs" ? |
| 15:47 |
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gmcharlt |
basically, they concerned the UTF8 stuff and are underway |
| 15:47 |
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thd |
Joubu: If you understand the task that the code performs or should perform even without understanding the existing code, then you are way ahead :) |
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mtompset |
Actually... |
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cait |
bag khall ping |
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mtompset |
I don't have a project I'm working on... but what about the random test failure problem because of hashes? |
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cait |
i have to leave - bye all :) |
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mtompset |
Bye, cait. |
| 15:48 |
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gmcharlt |
mtompset: tcohen and I have been kicking it around |
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gmcharlt |
nothing to reprot yet, but soonish hopefully |
| 15:48 |
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mtompset |
Okay. Just thought I'd ask about it. :) |
| 15:48 |
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Joubu |
I QAed a patch this morning about random hashes |
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Joubu |
bug 12343 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12343 normal, P5 - low, ---, abl, Passed QA , TransformKohaToMarc() is adding MARC subfields in random order |
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gmcharlt |
Joubu++ |
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Joubu |
mtompset: Is it the same thing you are talking about? |
| 15:50 |
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gmcharlt |
different one, with QueryParser |
| 15:50 |
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Joubu |
Ho yes! I forgot that |
| 15:50 |
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mtompset |
No, I was thinking the QueryParser one. |
| 15:50 |
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Joubu |
I had a look but looks quite complex |
| 15:52 |
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gmcharlt |
as far as setting the next meeting time is concerned, I propose that we punt that to koha-devel for a time when tcohen is back home |
| 15:52 |
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Joubu |
yep |
| 15:53 |
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gmcharlt |
ok |
| 15:53 |
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gmcharlt |
thanks, everybody |
| 15:54 |
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gmcharlt |
#endmeeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Koha Dev Meeting - today - 11 June 2014, 15:00 and 22:00 UTC |
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huginn |
Meeting ended Wed Jun 11 15:54:02 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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huginn |
Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-06-11-15.00.html |
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huginn |
Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]4-06-11-15.00.txt |
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huginn |
Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]11-15.00.log.html |
| 15:54 |
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Joubu |
For information, Yohann started to write patches :) see bug 12406 |
| 15:54 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12406 normal, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Needs Signoff , Adding a column maxsuspensiondays in the table issuingrules breaks the UT t/db_dependent/Circulation_Issuingrule.t |
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Joubu |
He has fixed a bug I introduced. An intern is very useful :p |
| 15:55 |
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gmcharlt |
heh |
| 15:56 |
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thd |
Joubu: Was it rangi's patch for bug #12343 which you were testing? |
| 15:56 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12343 normal, P5 - low, ---, abl, Passed QA , TransformKohaToMarc() is adding MARC subfields in random order |
| 15:58 |
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Joubu |
thd: there is not patch from rangi on 12343 |
| 15:59 |
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thd |
Joubu: Oh, I see now that maybe rangi was also testing. |
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thd |
Joubu, Is the patch working by sorting on the keys using the standard alphanumeric sort function? |
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Joubu |
thd: yes |
| 16:01 |
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Joubu |
Have to leave. Bye all |
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thd |
Joubu: While that would be a great improvement on random it would still be wrong. |
| 16:01 |
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thd |
Joubu: I will comment on the bug later. |
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reiveune |
bye |
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mtompset |
gmcharlt: I prefer using the shorter URL -- http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
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cbrannon |
Anyone here familiar with the Koha sandboxes? |
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cait |
where ar you stuck? |
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cbrannon |
If I am loading a patch and it throws up errors, do I just post the error in the bugzilla ticket, or do I set to Failed QA? |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
it depends a bit on the error |
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cait |
pasting it is ok |
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cait |
i think i would put patch does not apply |
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cait |
it's another status |
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cbrannon |
I run into this once in a while, but never knew exactly what to do. I'll do that status. Thanks. :) |
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gmcharlt |
meeting in one minute |
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* cait |
gets ready |
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gmcharlt |
#startmeeting Development IRC meeting, 11 June 2014, part 2 |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed Jun 11 22:01:03 2014 UTC. The chair is gmcharlt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting, 11 June 2014, part 2) |
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huginn |
The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting__11_june_2014__part_2' |
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gmcharlt |
#info Agenda is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ing,_11_June_2014 |
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gmcharlt |
#topic Introductions |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting, 11 June 2014, part 2) |
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wahanui |
#info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
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gmcharlt |
#info Galen Charlton, ESI |
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eythian_ |
#info Robin Sheat, Catalyst IT, NZ |
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cait |
#info Katrin Fischer, BSZ |
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thd |
#info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
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rangi |
#info Chris Cormack, Catalyst NZ |
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* thd |
is merely semi-present |
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gmcharlt |
ok |
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gmcharlt |
in tcohen's absence, we'll skip the RM 3.18 update |
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gmcharlt |
#topic Deprecate the OPAC prog theme officially |
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Topic for #koha is now Deprecate the OPAC prog theme officially (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting, 11 June 2014, part 2) |
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wizzyrea |
#info Liz Rea, Catalyst NZ |
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gmcharlt |
#info Current proposal for wording in the coding guidelines: (http://paste.lisp.org/display/142855 |
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gmcharlt |
this was voted on in the first meet |
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gmcharlt |
ing |
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gmcharlt |
any questions, comments, or other feedback before we vote on it here? |
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wizzyrea |
besides, "good riddance?" |
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gmcharlt |
(no! we must keep at the historical dead things!) |
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gmcharlt |
;) |
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gmcharlt |
#startvote Shall the change to the coding guidelines to deprecate OPAC and CCSR be approved (http://paste.lisp.org/display/142855)? Yes, No, Abstain |
| 22:07 |
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huginn |
Begin voting on: Shall the change to the coding guidelines to deprecate OPAC and CCSR be approved (http://paste.lisp.org/display/142855)? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain. |
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huginn |
Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. |
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eythian_ |
#vote yes |
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cait |
i was at the first meeting, so I won't vote again |
| 22:07 |
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wizzyrea |
#vote yes |
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rangi |
#vote yes |
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thd |
wizzyrea: The grass is always greener elsewhere until you have discovered all the difficulties of digesting especially green grass :) |
| 22:08 |
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mtompset |
#vote yes. |
| 22:08 |
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huginn |
mtompset: yes. is not a valid option. Valid options are Yes, No, Abstain. |
| 22:08 |
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mtompset |
#vote yes |
| 22:08 |
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wizzyrea |
that grass is pretty much dead. |
| 22:08 |
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mtompset |
(since I didn't get inthe first meeting. ;) ) |
| 22:08 |
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mtompset |
#info Mark Tompsett |
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gmcharlt |
one minute too vote closing |
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* thd |
already voted yes with concerns about even free software projects originating at Twitter. |
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gmcharlt |
#endvote |
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huginn |
Voted on "Shall the change to the coding guidelines to deprecate OPAC and CCSR be approved (http://paste.lisp.org/display/142855)?" Results are |
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huginn |
Yes (4): eythian_, wizzyrea, rangi, mtompset |
| 22:10 |
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gmcharlt |
#agreed the coding guidelines will be updated per http://paste.lisp.org/display/142855 to discourage future patches from updating the prog and CCSR OPAC themes |
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gmcharlt |
#topic UTF-8 Clean-up - Bug 11944 |
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Topic for #koha is now UTF-8 Clean-up - Bug 11944 (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting, 11 June 2014, part 2) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 |
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gmcharlt |
#info (from part 1) gmcharlt has action items to review patches and redy them for signoff by end of June |
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gmcharlt |
#info also action item to schedule a GBSD dedicated to it in early July |
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gmcharlt |
#info Joubu has action item to look at bug 11811 and look at adjusting on or more sandboxes to use the utf8_unicode_ci collation in their mysql databases |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11811 major, P1 - high, ---, dpavlin, In Discussion , tools/import_borrowers.pl doesn't support utf-8 encoded CSV |
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gmcharlt |
needless to say, anybody else who wants to join in patch review is very much welcome to |
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gmcharlt |
any comments before we move on? |
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cait |
apart from patch review i think there are some remaining problems |
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rangi |
? |
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cait |
hm, trying to phrase that better |
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thd |
cait: Do you mean problems within the scope of the bug but out of scope for the existing patches? |
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cait |
there are some known issues still that need to be solved in the patch series |
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gmcharlt |
right, Joubu had identified a couple issues in the bug that he wants some help writing patches for |
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gmcharlt |
I'll undertake them as part of my review, but again, more eyes welecome |
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cait |
yes, thx gmcharlt |
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gmcharlt |
welcome, even |
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cait |
and thx again for working on those :) |
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thd |
*++ |
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gmcharlt |
ok, moving on |
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gmcharlt |
#topic Big stuff we are working on |
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Topic for #koha is now Big stuff we are working on (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting, 11 June 2014, part 2) |
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gmcharlt |
#info BibLibre is working on an RFC for revamping how taxes are handled in acquisitions |
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wizzyrea |
biblibre++ |
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rangi |
im working on the mulitple bookcovers dev, that you would have seen kathryns email about, its not that big, should have something to submit in a couple of weeks |
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gmcharlt |
since the IRS's grand scheme to TAX THE WHOLE WORLD is not quite complete... feedback from everybody is essential |
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gmcharlt |
to ensure that the outcome works well enough for everybody |
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thd |
Did I understand that the BibLibre acquisitions RFC is awaiting more work before publishing it in English? |
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* eythian |
is no longer busmeeting. |
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gmcharlt |
that's my understanding |
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gmcharlt |
or at the very least, they're working on translating it |
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gmcharlt |
#info rangi is working on support for multiple sources of book covers |
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gmcharlt |
eythian: how is ES coming along? |
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eythian |
gmcharlt: quite well. Implementing all that's on the advanced search page is almost done (availability is slightly tricky for unexciting reasons.) |
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eythian |
Still figuring out how to do the browse interface stuff, but have some leads on that. |
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gmcharlt |
cool |
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gmcharlt |
any other projecst? |
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eythian |
I'm hoping to put patches up for testing reasonably soon |
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thd |
rangi: Do you mean multiple live sources? |
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pianohacker |
Oh right dev meeting |
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eythian |
very alpha testing. |
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wizzyrea |
defining availability has always been a question. |
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thd |
rangi: Or is there a bug blocking the use of stored images for book covers? |
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pianohacker |
Have rancor updates |
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gmcharlt |
pianohacker: go for it |
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rangi |
thd: multiple sources including local covers, but with fallback |
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rangi |
so you define the order, and it tries them until it gets one that has an image (or fails on all) |
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pianohacker |
Rancor has several bugfixes and a new metasearch backend that does not depend on pazpar2 |
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wizzyrea |
oooo |
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cait |
pianohacker: what are you using instead? |
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pianohacker |
Needs to be refactored a bit, and the results have to be refetched for each page load, but it supports sorting and pagination |
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pianohacker |
Also needs relevance ranking at some point |
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pianohacker |
cait: Just ZOOM, all of the record fetching and sorting is done in Koha now |
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pianohacker |
seems to be about the same speed as pazpar2, and works more consistently |
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cait |
is that an option for opac too? |
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pianohacker |
cait: Possibly :) |
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pianohacker |
guessing you're thinking for bug 10486? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10486 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Allow external Z39.50 targets to be searched from the OPAC |
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cait |
of course :) |
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gmcharlt |
#info prog/CCSR deprecation now the HTML5 guideline: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]precation_of_the_.27prog.27_and_.27CCSR.27_OPAC_themes |
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pianohacker |
I'd definitely want some kind of results caching before I put it on an OPAC, and I'm not sure of the best way to do that |
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gmcharlt |
pianohacker: time for you to investigate Koha::Cache |
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eythian |
especially my new+improved version (I can't remember if it's in master yet or not) |
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pianohacker |
gmcharlt: That was my thought, my major question was value size limits, though |
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eythian |
oh, it's not it needs someone to poke bug 12041 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12041 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Passed QA , Improve Koha::Cache |
| 22:30 |
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pianohacker |
If I do the straightforward thing and shove the entire result set in as a MARC blob, it comes out to roughly 250 KB for the 100-record fetch I'm currently doing. This only really works for Memcached, though, and if servers send back a ton of huge records my impression is that the key storage silently fails |
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pianohacker |
Not a terrible thing but I was curious if there's a better way |
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eythian |
probablyu worth describing it in detail on a koha-devel post |
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eythian |
get more eyes that way |
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gmcharlt |
yeah |
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pianohacker |
Seems like a good idea |
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gmcharlt |
any other topics? |
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eythian |
yeah |
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rangi |
i have a couple that id like to run past people, not strictly dev, but related |
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rangi |
first there is |
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rangi |
http://osswatch.jiscinvolve.or[…]-projects-wanted/ |
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eythian |
just a note that there's a series of plack patches around that people could look at if they want something to do. |
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eythian |
For staff client plack support. |
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thd |
Can the result set records be quickly stored in some temporary database storage if the result set is unexpectedly large but not egregiously large. |
| 22:33 |
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cait |
i think we have some areas were testing/qa gets into a bottleneck |
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eythian |
Some are in master now, but there are some that aren't. |
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cait |
sip, caching, ldap |
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thd |
? |
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cait |
so if someone feels able to test in that areas, please go for it |
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pianohacker |
thd: that's a possibility |
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eythian |
cait: perhaps someone who knows them should write up testing guides on the wiki? |
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cait |
well not me then... i have done a bit of sip, but no ldap and caching so far :( |
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cait |
i'd like to use one of those tesitng guides |
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eythian |
caching is actually pretty easy, ldap is less so. |
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cait |
rangi: reading |
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gmcharlt |
rangi: the VALS SoC looks interesting; my main comment is that if we want to do it, we should line up several commitments for mentors first |
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rangi |
yep |
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cait |
it sounds interesting |
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gmcharlt |
rangi: and the other thing you wanted to bring up? |
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rangi |
ah yep |
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rangi |
http://paste.koha-community.org/40 |
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rangi |
really really rough draft |
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rangi |
for |
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rangi |
https://linux.conf.au/miniconf-cfp |
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gmcharlt |
#info rangi mentioned the VALS summer of code (http://osswatch.jiscinvolve.or[…]projects-wanted/) as a possible project for Koha to cnosider |
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rangi |
but if it does get accepted i will be trying to get some people from koha to be speakers |
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rangi |
as well as evergreen, islandora, et al |
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cait |
cool |
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eythian |
so if anyone feels like a trip to wherever the next LCA is... :) |
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rangi |
auckland nz |
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gmcharlt |
#info rangi is proposing a cultural hertiage and FLOSS miniconference for the lca2015 in Auckland (https://linux.conf.au/) |
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cait |
oooh... |
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eythian |
oh, that's boring |
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wizzyrea |
way not as cool as wellington. |
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gmcharlt |
heh |
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wizzyrea |
HAR |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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cait |
true |
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pianohacker |
eythian: couple small questions about the new Koha::Cache module after da meeting |
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eythian |
sure |
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gmcharlt |
thanks, rangi |
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rangi |
thats all i have |
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gmcharlt |
regarding setting a date for the next meeting, I suggest we wait for when tcohen is back home |
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rangi |
sounds good |
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gmcharlt |
ok |
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gmcharlt |
thanks everybody |
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gmcharlt |
#endmeeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Koha Dev Meeting - today - 11 June 2014, 15:00 and 22:00 UTC |
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huginn |
Meeting ended Wed Jun 11 22:43:45 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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huginn |
Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-06-11-22.01.html |
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huginn |
Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]4-06-11-22.01.txt |
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huginn |
Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]11-22.01.log.html |
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cait |
gmcharlt++ |
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wizzyrea |
thanks gmcharlt |
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pianohacker |
eythian: my two questions were: a) if fastmmap isn't an option due to not supporting expiry, are we removing it permanently? and b) out of curiosity, why the switch to Cache::Memcached? |
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eythian |
pianohacker: iirc, I removed it from the default options, but you can still request it yourself if you're OK with managing it. |
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eythian |
b) I don't think there was a switch to Cache::Memcached |
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eythian |
make sure you're looking at the latest patches |
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eythian |
I think I used it originally because it supported something I wanted to support, but turned out not to be UTF-8 clean. |
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eythian |
so switched back and implemented the support for the other thing (default expiry, IIRC) myself. |
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eythian |
brb, getting breakfast |
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eythian |
b |
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cait |
quick brakfast - coffee? |
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cait |
good night all |
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pianohacker |
eythian: ahh, missed that that was a regex. Makes sense :) |
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mtompset |
Have a great day, #koha. |
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