| Time |
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Nick |
Message |
| 00:06 |
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mtj |
rangi, awesome |
| 00:43 |
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gmcharlt |
pianohacker: heading out the door; drop me a note, pelase |
| 00:44 |
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pianohacker |
@later tell gmcharlt The overdrive code depends on being able to connect to OverDrive over HTTPS. It turns out most Koha Debian installations don't ship the necessary packages. What would be the best way to resolve this? |
| 00:44 |
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huginn |
pianohacker: The operation succeeded. |
| 00:53 |
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mtj |
hey eythian - what do you think about a koha package update, rebuilding language files? |
| 00:55 |
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| 01:00 |
|
eythian |
mtj: what do you mean? |
| 01:00 |
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eythian |
pianohacker: submit a patch for the packages to include it. |
| 01:02 |
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pianohacker |
eythian: Okay. Two questions: a) does that involve changing debian/control? b) are there any problems that you know of with the packages depending on libio-socket-perl and libcrypt-ssleay-perl? |
| 01:06 |
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eythian |
ah, I didn't realise it was a perl dep, I figured it was a C lib or something |
| 01:06 |
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eythian |
in that case, add it to C4/Installer/PerlDependencies.pm and everything will work out. |
| 01:07 |
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pianohacker |
oh, cool. It's autogenerated? |
| 01:07 |
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mtj |
eythian: add a final task to the package install, to update the language files |
| 01:07 |
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eythian |
mtj: bug 10942 |
| 01:07 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10942 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Provide a way for package upgrades to update template translations |
| 01:08 |
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eythian |
you mean like it already does? :) |
| 01:08 |
|
eythian |
or do you mean something else? |
| 01:09 |
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mtj |
no, thats the one :p |
| 01:09 |
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eythian |
pianohacker: it's not, I manually do it every so often. |
| 01:10 |
|
* dcook |
needs to remember to take a look at PerlDependencies.pm again sometime.. |
| 01:10 |
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dcook |
Of course, when something doesn't come up when checking the deps, you find out pretty fast.. |
| 01:14 |
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pianohacker |
@later tell gmcharlt just filed http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12393 for the current favored fix; possible 3.16.1 candidate if it's ready in time? |
| 01:14 |
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huginn |
pianohacker: The operation succeeded. |
| 01:14 |
|
huginn |
Bug 12393: normal, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, NEW , OverDrive does not depend on SSL modules for LWP, causing searches to fail |
| 01:16 |
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pianohacker |
eythian: is there any kind of ordering to PerlDependencies.pm? |
| 01:16 |
|
eythian |
pianohacker: no |
| 01:17 |
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pianohacker |
heh, okay. Thanks |
| 01:17 |
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pianohacker |
eythian++ # Thanks for all your help |
| 01:17 |
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eythian |
np |
| 01:17 |
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| 01:43 |
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dcook |
Bleargh... |
| 01:46 |
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pianohacker |
eythian: okay, here's a riddle for you. In wheezy, debian split the HTTPS support for LWP into a separate package, called liblwp-protocol-https-perl. We can't depend on this package in squeeze, as it doesn't exist, but without it we don't get HTTPS support in wheezy |
| 01:47 |
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pianohacker |
is the answer to this riddle "we no longer support squeeze" or "you should put a comment in PerlDependencies.pm"? |
| 01:47 |
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eythian |
neither |
| 01:47 |
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pianohacker |
ooh |
| 01:47 |
|
eythian |
the conversion of PD.pm is scripted, I don't actually read it. |
| 01:48 |
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pianohacker |
Ah. Wondered if that was so. |
| 01:48 |
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eythian |
That's a little tricky. |
| 01:48 |
|
eythian |
It's possible that the best solution is to do it manually. |
| 01:48 |
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eythian |
(which isn't a big deal.) |
| 01:50 |
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jcamins |
Require either liblwp-protocol-https-perl or liblwp-perl < x.x.x |
| 01:50 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 01:50 |
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pianohacker |
You can do that in debian dependencies? |
| 01:50 |
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eythian |
sure |
| 01:50 |
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eythian |
a|b |
| 01:51 |
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pianohacker |
Cool. Didn't know that |
| 01:51 |
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eythian |
I'm just trying to figure out the best way to do it |
| 01:51 |
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eythian |
I'd probably add an override to debian/list-deps |
| 01:51 |
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pianohacker |
eythian: is there anything I can provide in my patch besides the PerlDependencies.pm update? |
| 01:51 |
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eythian |
it already has the facility for that, though nothing is using it right now. |
| 01:52 |
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eythian |
so it'd be something like Whatever::It::Is => 'liblwp-protocol-https-perl|libthe-other-one-perl' |
| 01:54 |
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eythian |
oh, the code for handling overrides should be moved to the top of the if block |
| 01:54 |
|
eythian |
so that it gets checked first |
| 01:54 |
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pianohacker |
eythian: so, in this case, LWP::Protocol::https => 'liblwp-protocol-https-perl|libwww-perl<6.00' ? |
| 01:55 |
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pianohacker |
heh, lines 71-81 |
| 01:55 |
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eythian |
'liblwp-protocol-https-perl|libwww-perl (<6.00)' I think is the correct format. Make sure you double check the version is correct. |
| 01:55 |
|
eythian |
yeah, liw did that :) |
| 01:56 |
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eythian |
https://www.debian.org/doc/deb[…]elationships.html |
| 02:09 |
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eythian |
http://www.trademe.co.nz/brows[…]55&/listing?rfm=1 <-- does my lounge need this? |
| 02:10 |
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pianohacker |
hah, yeah, that's cool |
| 02:10 |
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pianohacker |
oh. pbuilder does a debootstrap O_o |
| 02:10 |
|
* pianohacker |
goes to make dinner |
| 02:14 |
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eythian |
well, that's kinda its thing |
| 02:22 |
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jce |
mtj: if you're still on, fix-090-to-999.pl worked like a charm. Now I just need to figure out how to fix the framework and Koha to MARC mappings. |
| 02:23 |
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eythian |
jce: import them from the sql files in koha |
| 02:23 |
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eythian |
there's probably other issues in there anyway |
| 02:25 |
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jce |
eythian: import the framework and mappings from the sql files? |
| 02:25 |
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eythian |
yeah, replace the ones currently in the database with the default ones. |
| 02:27 |
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jce |
Where would I find the sql files that have the defaults? |
| 02:27 |
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| 02:28 |
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eythian |
^W is not delete word back in this IRC client... |
| 02:28 |
|
eythian |
installer/data/mysql/ |
| 02:28 |
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jce |
Thanks. I'll give it a look. |
| 02:34 |
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jce |
I'm looking at installer/data/mysql/en/marcflavour/marc21/mandatory/marc21_framework_DEFAULT.sql Is this what Koha loads up as the default framework in Home->Administration->MARC frameworks? If so, do I need to load the SQL again, or can I just make a new framework based on the default? |
| 02:39 |
|
eythian |
not sure. |
| 02:39 |
|
eythian |
I'd be inclined to delete all the existing frameworks and reload the default |
| 02:40 |
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eythian |
Oh, if you create a new framework from default, it won't load that. It'll copy the default that's currently in the system. |
| 02:41 |
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jce |
Well, there really isn't anything here but a "Test framework" I probably set up when I was first playing around with the initial version of this system in about 2007. |
| 02:42 |
|
eythian |
yeah, then I'd delete it and load the default in. |
| 02:43 |
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jce |
So you think I should delete the test framework (the only thing there besides 'default') and load the default SQL to refresh the default framework. |
| 02:43 |
|
jce |
Can I do that in phpmyadmin? |
| 02:43 |
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eythian |
check the SQL first, make sure it won't go weird if it gets loaded in twice. |
| 02:43 |
|
eythian |
yeah |
| 02:43 |
|
eythian |
I tend to use mysql at the command line though |
| 02:44 |
|
jce |
I'd have to get out my O'Reilly book and read a bit. :) |
| 02:47 |
|
jce |
Not sure I'd be able to tell from the SQL whether it would mess things up if I reload it. |
| 02:48 |
|
jce |
Not afraid of the command line, but just don't spend much time with MySQL. |
| 02:49 |
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eythian |
it looks like if you load that file, it will add anything that's not there, but won't change anything that's already there. |
| 02:50 |
|
eythian |
Which is normally sensible. |
| 02:50 |
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jce |
Sounds good to me. |
| 02:50 |
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eythian |
up to you, I'd probably be inclined to delete everything and load it though |
| 02:50 |
|
dcook |
The only downside is if something has been changed |
| 02:50 |
|
eythian |
just because you might have some really old stuff in tehre. |
| 02:50 |
|
* dcook |
would probably delete everything and load it |
| 02:51 |
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jce |
Is that all in a particular table I could drop? |
| 02:51 |
|
eythian |
marc_tag_structure and marc_subfield_structure |
| 02:52 |
|
jce |
Ok. I'm going to export both of those tables, then drop them. |
| 02:54 |
|
eythian |
(note that I assume you're working with a backup of your whole database lying around safely somewhere.) |
| 02:55 |
|
jce |
Yes, an SQL backup, the 'real' server, and another copy of the VM I'm currently working on. |
| 02:55 |
|
eythian |
cool |
| 02:56 |
|
jce |
Should I drop the table or truncate it? |
| 02:57 |
|
eythian |
truncate |
| 02:57 |
|
eythian |
(most likely) |
| 03:03 |
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jce |
Ok, I've truncated both tables. phpmyadmin is being a dork and not allowing me to import from the SQL file. Rather than adjust its attitude, it would probably be easier to load it up via the command line, if I could come up with the proper mysql incantation. |
| 03:04 |
|
eythian |
you have packages installed? |
| 03:05 |
|
jce |
Yes. |
| 03:05 |
|
eythian |
if so, sudo koha-mysql instancename |
| 03:05 |
|
eythian |
then \. /path/to/file.sql |
| 03:09 |
|
jce |
Hmm. I got some error messages. Duplicate entries: 999 for key PRIMARY, 999-a for key PRIMARY, 942, 942-a, 952, 952-0, 000, 000-@ for key PRIMARY. |
| 03:12 |
|
eythian |
hmm |
| 03:12 |
|
eythian |
maybe the schema is old |
| 03:12 |
|
eythian |
might be worth dropping the tables if it'll let you and recreating them from kohastructure.sql (copy-paste the creates out, otherwise madness will happen. |
| 03:13 |
|
eythian |
) |
| 03:13 |
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jce |
Probably is. I remember running scripts to upgrade schema in the past. Should I try one of those? |
| 03:14 |
|
eythian |
no, best to do it from fresh. |
| 03:20 |
|
jce |
Ok, I've found the section in kohastructure.sql for marc_subfield_structure. It has a DROP TABLE IF EXISTS and CREATE TABLE for marc_subfield_structure. Should I copy just that section and the one for marc_tag_structure and paste them into a new file? |
| 03:20 |
|
eythian |
yeah |
| 03:20 |
|
eythian |
or directly into mysql |
| 03:21 |
|
eythian |
yay, facet bug fixed, now they work properly under ES! |
| 03:21 |
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jce |
But I want to keep the DROP TABLE IF EXISTS and CREATE TABLE just for these tables, no? |
| 03:21 |
|
eythian |
well, better anyway |
| 03:21 |
|
wahanui |
i heard better was "take cover." :) |
| 03:21 |
|
eythian |
yeah |
| 03:22 |
|
eythian |
because you want to drop them and create them |
| 03:22 |
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jce |
Right. |
| 03:24 |
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eythian |
OK everyone, how should facets work? Should they be ordered according to how common that field is within the results, or should it be alphabetical, or something else? |
| 03:26 |
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eythian |
currently it seems be taking the most popular and sorting them alphabetically. |
| 03:26 |
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eythian |
*10 most popular |
| 03:26 |
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eythian |
actually, this is a tricky question given that ES shows the facets for the whole result set, not just the current page. |
| 03:28 |
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eythian |
OK, so I might have it show the most popular 5 until you expand it when it shows 20. Something like that. |
| 03:31 |
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dcook |
eythian: Hmm? |
| 03:32 |
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eythian |
you're going to have to clarify your musing there, dcook. |
| 03:32 |
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dcook |
Was just about to :) |
| 03:32 |
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dcook |
I think it would make sense if they were ordered in regards to the number of hits so to speak? |
| 03:32 |
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dcook |
Like...dates |
| 03:32 |
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eythian |
that's what I mean by popular |
| 03:32 |
|
dcook |
2012 (50), 2009 (25), 2010 (4) |
| 03:32 |
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eythian |
that's what it does now |
| 03:32 |
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dcook |
Mmm, I figured, but hence the hmm |
| 03:33 |
|
* dcook |
ponders |
| 03:33 |
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dcook |
I wonder if there is a time when you'd rather have 2012, 2011, 2010, 2009... |
| 03:33 |
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dcook |
That's a good point |
| 03:33 |
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eythian |
I'm not going to do that |
| 03:33 |
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eythian |
I can do magic with date faceting |
| 03:33 |
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eythian |
but maybe later :) |
| 03:33 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 03:33 |
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eythian |
e.g. I could have it do 1900-1950, 1950-2000, 2000- |
| 03:34 |
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jce |
All right. I fixed the default framework schema, and re-imported the default framework from the SQL with no errors reported. So now I make a new framework from the default? |
| 03:35 |
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eythian |
if you like |
| 03:35 |
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jce |
And then fix Koha to MARC mapping. |
| 03:35 |
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eythian |
you could probably do the same process for that. |
| 03:36 |
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eythian |
actually, I'm going to fix facet expansion later. It's low priority |
| 03:36 |
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eythian |
Better getting more things to be searchable. |
| 03:37 |
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dcook |
:D |
| 03:37 |
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eythian |
Oh, I'll ahve to implement availability at some stage. |
| 03:38 |
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eythian |
That'll be terrible. |
| 03:39 |
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| 03:39 |
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whammywon |
hello |
| 03:39 |
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wahanui |
privet, whammywon |
| 03:39 |
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whammywon |
does anyone know if koha offers encryption for library files? |
| 03:40 |
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rangi |
what files? |
| 03:40 |
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wahanui |
files are not touched by the template translation process, you will have to do it manually |
| 03:40 |
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jce |
eythian: Actually, when I look at Koha to MARC mapping now, it has biblionumber mapped to 999. I wonder if fix-090-to-999.pl did that for me. |
| 03:40 |
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whammywon |
OK. would I need a third party encryption software? |
| 03:40 |
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eythian |
http://i.imgur.com/FDzHkWg.png <-- I may have to improve the error handling at some stage too. This might be a little too cryptic. |
| 03:41 |
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rangi |
whammywon: ignore wahanui, its a bot |
| 03:41 |
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rangi |
whammywon: what files are you talking about encrypting? |
| 03:41 |
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eythian |
wahanui: are you a bot? |
| 03:41 |
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wahanui |
eythian: wish i knew |
| 03:41 |
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whammywon |
like patron information and history. etc... |
| 03:41 |
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rangi |
they arent stored in files, but in a database |
| 03:42 |
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whammywon |
oh. that's right. |
| 03:42 |
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wahanui |
no it's not. |
| 03:42 |
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whammywon |
anybody happen to know if MySQL encrypts? |
| 03:42 |
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rangi |
id doubt it |
| 03:42 |
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rangi |
but you could put it on an encrypted partition, id imagine it would be hella slow though |
| 03:43 |
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eythian |
it doesn't. |
| 03:43 |
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whammywon |
OK. thank you @rangi! |
| 03:43 |
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eythian |
It probably wouldn't be bad on good hardware |
| 03:43 |
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eythian |
a lot of newer chipsets have built in AES support, which is stupid fast. |
| 03:43 |
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rangi |
ah true |
| 03:43 |
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rangi |
that was a fairly random request |
| 03:44 |
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* dcook |
found wahanui amusing though |
| 03:44 |
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dcook |
eythian: Good call on the error handling :p |
| 03:45 |
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jce |
eythian: Many thanks for your help. I think I'm on the right track now. Going to check out for tonight, though. |
| 03:45 |
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eythian |
good stuff |
| 03:46 |
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rangi |
dcook: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGvyjKLLnp4 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 04:13 |
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dcook |
rangi: Oh sure. Invite tourists to feed your vampire habits... |
| 04:16 |
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mtompset |
Have a great day, rangi dcook eythian #koha. |
| 04:17 |
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eythian |
later |
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| 04:34 |
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eythian |
OK, language searching works. Thanks to some badly catalogued data for helping out with that. |
| 04:34 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 04:35 |
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eythian |
"term" : "eng", |
| 04:35 |
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eythian |
"count" : 3028 |
| 04:35 |
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eythian |
"term" : "en", |
| 04:35 |
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eythian |
"count" : 17 |
| 04:35 |
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eythian |
"term" : "ng", |
| 04:35 |
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eythian |
"count" : 15 |
| 04:35 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 04:37 |
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eythian |
It's reaching the point that I had some unit tests in this. It's getting large enough that making one thing work has a reasonable chance of breaking something else. |
| 04:39 |
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eythian |
I say this because my previous fix broke something else. |
| 04:47 |
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dcook |
Sounds familiar |
| 04:48 |
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eythian |
http://youtu.be/UnphFxH3FxM <-- truely horrifying |
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pianohacker |
eythian: bug 12393 if you're interested |
| 04:57 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12393 normal, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , OverDrive does not depend on SSL modules for LWP, causing searches to fail |
| 04:57 |
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* pianohacker |
scurries off |
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rangi |
aleisha: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12377 |
| 05:02 |
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huginn |
Bug 12377: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add date pickers to serials-edit.pl |
| 05:02 |
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rangi |
might be a good one to test |
| 05:16 |
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rangi |
or http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=643 |
| 05:16 |
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huginn |
Bug 643: enhancement, P2, ---, pasi.kallinen, Needs Signoff , Allow override of 'debarred' status |
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aleisha |
cool i signed off on that first one rangi |
| 05:21 |
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rangi |
awesome! |
| 05:21 |
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wahanui |
That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, rangi |
| 05:42 |
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dcook |
Got to love police checks... |
| 05:42 |
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dcook |
Trying to recall 10 years of addresses... |
| 05:43 |
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dcook |
I'm back 3 years and I already have 4 listed... |
| 05:43 |
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eythian |
surely the police aren't doing their job if they don't know that. |
| 05:44 |
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dcook |
I know, right? |
| 05:44 |
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dcook |
Oh well. Good data to have for myself anyway... |
| 05:45 |
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* dcook |
feels bad for the people who check up on these things |
| 05:46 |
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irma |
send them to us dcook we will vouch for you ;-) |
| 05:46 |
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dcook |
<3 |
| 05:47 |
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dcook |
I already have my Canadian police check done, so I don't know why the Australian police need 7.5 years of Canadian addresses :p |
| 05:47 |
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dcook |
The Canadian police didn't need it :p |
| 05:47 |
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eythian |
well, they don't care: you left :) |
| 05:47 |
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irma |
just to fill in the boxes on the form? |
| 05:47 |
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dcook |
Ink fingerprints though...I hope I never have to get ink fingerprints again... |
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| 05:47 |
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dcook |
eythian: good point :p |
| 05:47 |
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dcook |
irma: Pretty sure that's the one ;) |
| 05:47 |
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* dcook |
waves to cait |
| 05:48 |
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dcook |
Let's see if I can recall my address from when I first started uni.. |
| 05:48 |
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dcook |
Yay for email to family members... |
| 05:49 |
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dcook |
And a good memory :p |
| 05:49 |
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* cait |
waves back and yawns |
| 05:49 |
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dcook |
Oh my... my "apartment" has three sets of numbers.. |
| 05:49 |
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dcook |
had* |
| 05:50 |
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dcook |
It's practically a telephone number |
| 05:50 |
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irma |
dcook Bon courage! |
| 05:51 |
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eythian |
hi cait, irma |
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irma |
hi eythian and cait |
| 05:52 |
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cait |
hallo Irma and hi eythian :) |
| 05:53 |
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dcook |
8 addresses in 10 years |
| 05:54 |
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dcook |
With a total of...11 moves? |
| 05:54 |
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* dcook |
re-used addresses :p |
| 05:55 |
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eythian |
I only had 4 or 5 addresses at uni, don't think I could remember them all. |
| 05:55 |
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eythian |
though, that goes back more than 7.5 years. |
| 05:55 |
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irma |
hallo cait ... Bist Du nicht zu muede nach der Konferenz? |
| 05:56 |
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irma |
Das war letzte Woche? |
| 05:56 |
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dcook |
eythian: I did 3 qualifications in two different provinces and three different cities...and lived in 4 different locales in that time |
| 05:56 |
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dcook |
Fortunately, i only moved across the hall between years 1 and 2... |
| 05:57 |
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dcook |
Even numbered apartments for guys, and I recall the room number based on position within the apartment... |
| 05:57 |
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irma |
dcook un pigeon voyageur? |
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dcook |
(And one email to my sister) |
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dcook |
irma: Je suppose :p |
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dcook |
Let's hope their website didn't time out.. |
| 05:59 |
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irma |
Oh I should get on with it ... Bis bald! A bientot! Tot Ziens! Despedida! |
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dcook |
A+ :) |
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eythian |
Toodlepip! |
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irma |
eythian Toodle Pip! |
| 06:02 |
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irma |
I am serious now ... I must really leave... Ciao! |
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cait |
irma: sorry, was getting ready for work - had 3 days to recover, but now it's really hot here... :) |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 22.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on June 10, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
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cait |
it's only 8 am |
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eythian |
@wunder nzwn |
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huginn |
eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (5:30 PM NZST on June 10, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:07 |
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eythian |
'query' => '(_all:a) AND copydate:[1970 TO 1980]' |
| 06:07 |
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eythian |
cool, date range searching might be working. |
| 06:08 |
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eythian |
holy crap, it does work |
| 06:10 |
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eythian |
it's slightly annoying we have both publication date and copydate. |
| 06:10 |
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eythian |
Though, I suppose they're possibly different things. |
| 06:11 |
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dcook |
Iirc, they can be different things...but we don't use them that way |
| 06:11 |
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dcook |
So they're mostly just annoying :p |
| 06:12 |
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dcook |
Yeah, they can definitely be different...because you can have a publication date of yesterday, but the copyright date might be from decades ago |
| 06:12 |
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* dcook |
recalls doing stuff with different dates back when he used to catalogue |
| 06:12 |
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eythian |
yeah. it's just you sort by publication date, but search by copydate |
| 06:12 |
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dcook |
Yeah, we should probably just be using pubdate |
| 06:12 |
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dcook |
But I don't think the data supports that :/ |
| 06:13 |
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dcook |
Because of the Koha => Marc mappings |
| 06:13 |
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dcook |
Well...I suppose we could just use pubdate.. |
| 06:13 |
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eythian |
it'd totally work in ES |
| 06:13 |
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* dcook |
goes back to his police stuff though |
| 06:13 |
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eythian |
probably even zebra |
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dcook |
bbiab |
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dcook |
eythian: totes |
| 06:14 |
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dcook |
The police should redo this form...it mangled my address history...:/ |
| 06:14 |
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dcook |
Well...not mangled. Sorted badly. |
| 06:14 |
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eythian |
ok, if you're restricting to a branch, is that homebranch or holdingbranch? |
| 06:14 |
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eythian |
it just comes through as 'branch' in the URL, and record.abs has nothing called just 'branch' |
| 06:15 |
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dcook |
You'll have to look at Search.pm for that one, I think. Specifically in the limits bit? |
| 06:16 |
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eythian |
yeah, it passes it through as 'branch:...' |
| 06:16 |
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eythian |
Maybe it just never worked. |
| 06:16 |
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eythian |
993:branch homebranch |
| 06:16 |
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eythian |
ahh |
| 06:16 |
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eythian |
that'll be it |
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cait |
eythian: yeah publicationdate and copyrightdate are annoying :( just seems quite hard to clean up for existin ginstallations |
| 06:17 |
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eythian |
yeah |
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cait |
i man... we could |
| 06:18 |
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cait |
change all the mappings... copy the data from one column to another... change the reports... but if the library changed the mappings from the default hm. |
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wahanui |
cait: that doesn't look right |
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eythian |
cait: well, we'd just have to change the hardcoded bits in Koha I think |
| 06:19 |
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eythian |
they're named differently, it's just sometimes one is used, sometimes the other. |
| 06:19 |
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cait |
i think most of the hardcoded bits right now look at both fields |
| 06:19 |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
it's mostly a unimarc/marc21 problem right now |
| 06:19 |
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cait |
unimarc has the default mapping on pubdate |
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cait |
marc21 has the default mapping to copyrightdate |
| 06:20 |
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cait |
so a lot of code 'shoudl' look at both |
| 06:20 |
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cait |
for search it probably makes sense to use the normalized form of the year, as the pub date ranges do now... 008? 007? one of those |
| 06:21 |
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eythian |
yeah |
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eythian |
that's so often wrong though, although maybe I'm using bad data. |
| 06:21 |
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cait |
maybe |
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cait |
ours is pretty good there |
| 06:21 |
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cait |
but i think migrated data might not always have it |
| 06:22 |
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eythian |
yeah, it's a bugger to migrate into those control fields. |
| 06:22 |
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cait |
or people are not aware that they want that to make the pub date range search work |
| 06:22 |
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cait |
we try to set a few fields correctly at least, the pubdate being one of them, and the media type things |
| 06:25 |
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eythian |
oh well, I'll implement things according to what it currently does. Changing it later can be a different battle :) |
| 06:26 |
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eythian |
I have most of the advanced search form working with ES now. |
| 06:26 |
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cait |
woohoo :) |
| 06:26 |
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eythian |
That's one of my milestone goals. |
| 06:26 |
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cait |
very nice :) |
| 06:26 |
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cait |
what's next? |
| 06:26 |
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wahanui |
somebody said next was translation manager |
| 06:26 |
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eythian |
no, not translation manager. |
| 06:26 |
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eythian |
One of the people paying for this wants a browse interface, so I need to figure out how to do that. |
| 06:26 |
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eythian |
I have some ideas. |
| 06:27 |
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eythian |
that is, view an ordered list of all things (say, authors), and you can select one to see the results that have that. |
| 06:27 |
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eythian |
or something along those lines. |
| 06:28 |
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eythian |
with a search to jump into the middle of it. That's the bit that I don't know how to do yet. |
| 06:28 |
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cait |
hm ideally it should show how many |
| 06:28 |
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eythian |
that's totally possible |
| 06:28 |
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cait |
before you click, that would be nice |
| 06:29 |
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cait |
we had that in other ILS i used... always a big thing |
| 06:29 |
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eythian |
I actually added that to the facets for debug purposes, if you hover on a facet it says "blahblah (23)" |
| 06:29 |
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cait |
it gets really troublesome for callnumbers |
| 06:29 |
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cait |
because most libraries here don't use dewey or similar, but each has their own scheme of things, or a lot have |
| 06:29 |
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cait |
hm the facets shoudl totally show the number visibly |
| 06:29 |
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cait |
we can do that nwo too - it's just not always correct |
| 06:30 |
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cait |
displayFacetCount system preference |
| 06:31 |
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eythian |
the problem is that zebra facets on what's displayed. ES facets on all the possible results, which is what makes the most sense. |
| 06:31 |
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eythian |
ah, handy. |
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cait |
yeah i know |
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cait |
you can set th enumber higher... but it will slow down things significantly |
| 06:32 |
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eythian |
yeah |
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cait |
but i hope that we get 'real' facets with ES :) |
| 06:33 |
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cait |
so we don't have to cheat with the features and it just works :) |
| 06:33 |
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eythian |
you do. I've also got it now so you can pick and choose what to facet on separate from what's indexed into a field. So you can put 245$c into 'author' and search on it, but it won't show in the facets. |
| 06:34 |
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eythian |
(I'm cheating: every field you care about for facets creates a field like 'author__facet' internally, and that's used for faceting, but it's not indexed for searching.) |
| 06:34 |
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cait |
eythian: hm that might lead to the number being incorrect |
| 06:35 |
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cait |
it#s a problem we have now too - the indexes are wider than the fields we display in the facets |
| 06:35 |
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cait |
i had to 'fix' that for a recent project |
| 06:35 |
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eythian |
I don't know for sure, but I suspect that ES is smarter than that. |
| 06:35 |
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cait |
might be :) |
| 06:35 |
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cait |
what happns if it can't display anything for the description? |
| 06:36 |
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cait |
like... there should be a facet, but there isn#t anything in the fields to display? |
| 06:36 |
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eythian |
> Also note that terms are counted once per document, even if the occur more frequently in that document. |
| 06:36 |
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eythian |
then the facet doesn't show up if there's nothing to show. |
| 06:36 |
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cait |
ah |
| 06:36 |
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cait |
makes sense |
| 06:37 |
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cait |
curious to take a closer look :) now i need to get myself to work |
| 06:37 |
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cait |
i think i have to test some developments today :) |
| 06:37 |
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eythian |
e.g. right now you only see authors, itype, and topics. |
| 06:37 |
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eythian |
as that's all I'm faceting right now |
| 06:37 |
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eythian |
Need to do the other facets soon too. |
| 06:38 |
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dcook |
Year would be rad :) |
| 06:38 |
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cait |
and also... the aftermath of library conf to deal with... |
| 06:38 |
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dcook |
And language.. |
| 06:38 |
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wahanui |
language is filed letter by letter word by word |
| 06:38 |
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cait |
year, places, language yep |
| 06:38 |
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dcook |
Maybe record type as well... |
| 06:38 |
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eythian |
I'm not doing anything that's not already done by zebra at this stage, so it doesn't require changes to opac-results.tt |
| 06:39 |
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dcook |
Although itype can be a lot more useful than record type I think |
| 06:39 |
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dcook |
Mmm, fair enough |
| 06:39 |
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dcook |
Btw, police check sent! |
| 06:39 |
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eythian |
so, authors, titles (which is an odd one really), topics, places, series, item types. |
| 06:39 |
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dcook |
I think I have one PDF form and one application to do...then to finish the online form...then that's it! |
| 06:40 |
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eythian |
I'm not sold on the idea of faceting titles. |
| 06:40 |
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dcook |
Titles? Is that done currently? |
| 06:40 |
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eythian |
it's in opac-facets.tt |
| 06:40 |
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dcook |
Weiiird |
| 06:40 |
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eythian |
whether they're actually generated is a different matter. |
| 06:40 |
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dcook |
Ahhh |
| 06:40 |
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dcook |
Uniform title |
| 06:40 |
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dcook |
That's a bit different |
| 06:40 |
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eythian |
oh right |
| 06:40 |
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* dcook |
just saw it in an instance |
| 06:40 |
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eythian |
I suppose that makes some sense. |
| 06:40 |
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dcook |
For sure |
| 06:41 |
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dcook |
Well... |
| 06:41 |
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dcook |
Some sense |
| 06:41 |
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eythian |
oh, libraries and location too. I missed those. |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
bonjour, reiveune |
| 06:43 |
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eythian |
oh, content type already works, that's nice of it. |
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cait |
ok, now I have to run... |
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cait |
bye all |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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ashimema |
morning #koha |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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* dcook |
waves to alex_a and ashimema |
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magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on June 10, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
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dcook |
@wunder sydney, australia |
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huginn |
dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 17.0°C (4:30 PM EST on June 10, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:55 |
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dcook |
eythian: content type? |
| 06:55 |
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eythian |
it's a MARC thing |
| 06:57 |
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dcook |
Which part of MARC? |
| 06:57 |
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eythian |
008/22 |
| 06:57 |
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eythian |
no wait |
| 06:57 |
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eythian |
somewhere around there anyway |
| 06:57 |
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dcook |
I was about to say..:p |
| 06:57 |
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eythian |
24-27 |
| 06:57 |
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dcook |
That seems a bit dodgy :/ |
| 06:57 |
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dcook |
Since that's dependent on leader values |
| 06:58 |
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eythian |
It'll be a bit dodgy. It's a minor thing for a future time. |
| 06:58 |
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eythian |
though, it maps into ccl |
| 06:58 |
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eythian |
so it'll be doing the same as zebra |
| 06:58 |
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dcook |
Hmm, I've never encountered it. Weird. |
| 06:59 |
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eythian |
it's down the bottom of the advanced search |
| 07:00 |
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eythian |
'query' => '(_all:book) AND NOT onloan' |
| 07:00 |
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eythian |
I wonder if that works |
| 07:00 |
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dcook |
Huh...interesting |
| 07:00 |
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* dcook |
was wondering about the available "facet" as well |
| 07:01 |
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eythian |
it's a fauxcet |
| 07:02 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 07:02 |
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dcook |
I like that |
| 07:02 |
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dcook |
These content limits are weird...although I get the idea.. |
| 07:02 |
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* dcook |
wonders how many false positives come up with it |
| 07:03 |
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eythian |
I dunno, probably quite a few. |
| 07:03 |
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eythian |
The way MARC does all that is terribly stupid. |
| 07:03 |
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dcook |
Agreed |
| 07:05 |
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dcook |
Yeah, these mappings bank on people having mostly book collectinos |
| 07:05 |
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dcook |
I suppose it's probably an accurate assumption, but it's...icky |
| 07:06 |
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dcook |
Probably could do it much nicer in DOM... |
| 07:07 |
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dcook |
Mmm then again...maybe not |
| 07:07 |
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magnuse |
MARC must die! |
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wahanui |
http://marc-must-die.info/ |
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eythian |
hmm, I'm going to have to do some fancy mapping stuff to deal with onloan, so that it sets it to, say, '0' if it's not onloan so that it can be searched. |
| 07:11 |
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eythian |
I'll do that tomorrow. Now I should leave. |
| 07:11 |
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dcook |
Rest well, eythian ;) |
| 07:11 |
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dcook |
We totally could do content better with DOM btw... |
| 07:11 |
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dcook |
GRS-1...*shudders* |
| 07:11 |
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eythian |
in what sense? |
| 07:11 |
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eythian |
oh |
| 07:12 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 07:12 |
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dcook |
Checking the leader before putting data in an index and such |
| 07:12 |
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eythian |
catmandu (what converts MARC to elasticsearch) has a mapping language. It's fairly limited, but functional enough. |
| 07:13 |
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dcook |
I saw some of your perl4lib emails. It looks...interesting |
| 07:13 |
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eythian |
ah yep |
| 07:13 |
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dcook |
Not sure I followed what was going on with those repeated subfields |
| 07:13 |
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eythian |
at the moment I'm generating them from a database. |
| 07:13 |
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dcook |
? |
| 07:15 |
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eythian |
oh, it was taking 650aAAA$vBBB$vCCC and giving me subject:["AAA", "BBBCCC"], where I wanted subject:["AAA","BBB","CCC"] |
| 07:15 |
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eythian |
now I get subject:[["AAA"],["BBB"],["CCC"]] which is weird but works fine. |
| 07:18 |
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* eythian |
is outta here |
| 07:18 |
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eythian |
later all |
| 07:19 |
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dcook |
Yeah, I would want subject:["AAA","BBB","CCC"]. subject:[["AAA"],["BBB"],["CCC"]] is weird...but...I guess so long as it works? |
| 07:19 |
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dcook |
night! |
| 07:19 |
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dcook |
eythian++ |
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Joubu |
hello |
| 07:44 |
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Joubu |
Can someone please test bug 12396? This should be pushed asap |
| 07:44 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12396 blocker, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , MTT FIX: Due notices (DUEDGST) are multiplicated and everybodys all ODUEDGST are sent to everyone who should receive them. |
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paxed |
fun fun fun. |
| 08:08 |
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paxed |
(wasn't that tested properly?) |
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jseplae |
Hello all - a Koha-newbie here! I'm doing an internship involving, among other things, Koha-development. I've been working on some usability-improvements for the cataloguing/additem -view that are currently organization-spesific - is there a need for a generalized way to automatically fill the available SigNum form fields (for example)? |
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mveron |
Hi #koha |
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* mveron |
is in search for somebody to sign-off bug 12266 (z39.50 authority search broken) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12266 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , The z39.50 authority search to create new auth record works randomly |
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Joubu |
mveron: I keep my token for the QA step ;) |
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mveron |
Joubu: Ok :-) |
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nc-th |
I am using Koha 3.14. I have a question about RLIST. Please correct me if I am wrong. If I have 2 users in the RLIST for a serial, once the Library staff receives the new issue and catalogs, the first user in the RLIST will receive a notification email. Then after the first user returns the serial, the system will generate another notification email to the second user. Is that right? |
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magnuse |
kia ora kivilahtio |
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kivilahtio |
ki ora magnuse |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: Do you have any idea if there is some functiomnality to do with overlaying Marc records? Specifically we have an issue with getting slim MARC records from our bookvendor and fully catalogued MARC records from our bibliographic cataloguing company. The full records don't have 856 and overwrite the bookvendor 856 field. |
| 10:13 |
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kivilahtio |
so we stage import a record which overlays an existing record, and we lost some fields we dont want to lose |
| 10:13 |
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kivilahtio |
I am looking to make an improvement on that based on the matching rules, as that seems to provide the GUI needed. |
| 10:14 |
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kivilahtio |
so you could select the matching rule and an overlay rule |
| 10:14 |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: Any ideas if there is some feature I am overlooking? |
| 10:17 |
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kivilahtio |
BTW we are running week 2 of Koha in production :) |
| 10:17 |
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kivilahtio |
It is much less worse than I anticipated. Things are running quite smoothly |
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magnuse |
kivilahtio: yay for things running smoothly |
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magnuse |
and i don't *think* there is anything that does what you want to do |
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magnuse |
but i think there have been some talk about it |
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magnuse |
maybe in relaton to the marc modification templates? |
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magnuse |
kivilahtio: if i were you i'd send an email to the dev list and ask what others have thought about in this area |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
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mtj |
hiya magnuse, kivilahtio, drojf |
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drojf |
hi mtj |
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mtj |
kivilahtio: did you manage to find some good performance from your prod server? |
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kivilahtio |
mtj: pretty awesome |
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kivilahtio |
mtj: Looking forward to changing to nginx + starman + plack |
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kivilahtio |
mtj: but it looks like plack for staff client is stil lin development |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: they can't work so I'll hack something up for them |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: I think I will reuse the matching rules somehow, lets see what I cook up :) |
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kivilahtio |
mtj: read a book about nginx last weekend, because got pretty frustrated to the apache2 limitations. It is pretty damn hard to authenticate our users with Koha credentials using apache2 |
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kivilahtio |
we have print notices and offline .koc files that need to be distributed, so having an apache2 indexed directory with mod_auth_dbd |
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kivilahtio |
but apache2 md5 password hashing is not compatible with the mysql md5 hashing gaaaaahhh |
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kivilahtio |
I dont wanna hack up a LDAP |
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mtj |
meh, typical :/ |
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kivilahtio |
nginx has perl authentication, I think it is a perl module which authenticates |
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kivilahtio |
I mean a perl script which can authenticate |
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kivilahtio |
mtj: That will nicely solve the authentication issue :) |
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mtj |
kivilahtio: some interesting speed stuff for koha -> https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed |
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kivilahtio |
thanks! |
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mtj |
...it seems to fix some common problems after koha upgrades, too |
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mtj |
...around browsers caching old versions of css and js files, after upgrade |
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mtj |
its very quick to install, so worth a little play :) |
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mtj |
https://developers.google.com/[…]d/module/download |
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kivilahtio |
we have had issues with mac users with safari from accessing our OPAC |
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kivilahtio |
they are forwarded to their opac-details.pl from Liferay, and they are prompted to authneticate on the fly |
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kivilahtio |
but this seems to be an issue for some safari's |
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kivilahtio |
apparently all works smoothly fomr the OPAC main page |
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mtj |
you are on 3.14.x, with bootstrap opac? |
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kivilahtio |
erm yes |
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kivilahtio |
actually we are running master from 2 months ago, but aiming to rebase asap |
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kivilahtio |
there are already some bugs, but no show stoppers |
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kivilahtio |
we are going to 3.16 |
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kivilahtio |
+ our modifications |
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magnuse |
kivilahtio: after bug 12396 has been fixed, i presume? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12396 blocker, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , MTT FIX: Due notices (DUEDGST) are multiplicated and everybodys all ODUEDGST are sent to everyone who should receive them. |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: I already fixed that and we contained the problem and all the PR mess :) |
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kivilahtio |
people are generally very understanding and we havent got much fuzz |
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kivilahtio |
ofc it is rather nasty but there was no PR hit |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: I think we might even end up in the local newspaper about that :) |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: which might lead more people into our library. I feel any publicity is good publicity for us :) |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: Tho I hope the titles are not larger, than when we migrated :) |
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kivilahtio |
we actually made the local news :) |
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kivilahtio |
*made it to the local news |
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magnuse |
kivilahtio: cool :-) |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: I just heard that the radio is interviewing our library director about the incident |
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* cait |
waves and reads back |
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ashimema |
hi cait |
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oleonard |
Hi everyone |
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cait |
kivilahtio: overlay things... there is a bug for that in bugzilla |
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cait |
drojf!!! |
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wahanui |
hmmm... drojf is from Germany and developing Koha on a raspberry pi! |
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kivilahtio |
cait: There is? Not findable with overlay search term |
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drojf |
hi cait :) |
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cait |
i was going to send a search party for you 1 |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
kivilahtio: i can dig it up if you give me a moment |
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cait |
there is also something for your problem with distributing files |
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kivilahtio |
cait: you shall have one :) |
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cait |
and you shoudl talk to ashimema :) |
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drojf |
cait: a party \o/ |
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drojf |
^^ |
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cait |
bug 10477 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10477 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kohapatch, Failed QA , Increased flexibility for upload of Staged MARC records |
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cait |
the plus side... there is a patch to rescue |
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cait |
it's something we'd like to see too |
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cait |
bug 11317 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11317 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Needs Signoff , Add a way to access files from the intranet. |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: you would have find it if you used bzsplitter ;) |
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kivilahtio |
I dont understand that sp33k |
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kivilahtio |
I almost have a solution :) |
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oleonard |
nengard: Did you test Bug 12391 on master? Because it looks like Bug 12073 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12391 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , printable versions of opac showing all kinds of html |
| 12:48 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12073 minor, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , OPAC detail page printing show links URL |
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nengard |
I did not ... i'll go do that now |
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nengard |
owen okay it works in master |
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nengard |
so i guess we need that fixed on 3.14 if possible |
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nengard |
I did find a problem in master's print version though |
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nengard |
the credits are up at the top - i'll report separately |
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oleonard |
Bug 12260? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12260 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Printing a page from bootstrap shows unnecessary links |
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nengard |
nope |
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nengard |
http://screencast.com/t/iztmgf6AIUG |
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nengard |
the footer showing at the top |
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nengard |
you want a new bug for that? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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nengard |
k |
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oleonard |
I guess we all need to do a little more printing during testing |
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nengard |
done |
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gaetan_B |
bonjour |
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Joubu |
oleonard: I tried to qa bug 12380 this morning but I didn't understand the problem |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12380 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , can't tab to save buttons on add item |
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Joubu |
oleonard: what do you mean by "try tabbing through the add item form fields"? |
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cait |
btw general reminder - we got a dev meeting tomorrow :) |
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cait |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ing,_11_June_2014 |
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oleonard |
Joubu: In the add/edit item form, place your cursor in any of the fields (barcode, call number, etc). Use the tab key to move to the next field. When you get to the end of the form the cursor jumps to the top of the page instead of selecting the "add item" button |
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Joubu |
oleonard: haaa! I learnt a new word today, I didn't know that "press the tab key" could be used with the "to tab" verb :) |
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oleonard |
Ah yes English speakers love to make verbs out of everything! |
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slef |
oleonard: ITYM English speakers love to verb everything ;) |
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oleonard |
Quite right :0 |
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oleonard |
:) |
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rambutan |
verbose vocalization. There, it's an adjective too. |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 32.0°C (4:00 PM CEST on June 10, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 16%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling). |
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cait |
gah. |
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nengard |
@wunder 78754 |
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huginn |
nengard: The current temperature in University Hills, Austin, Texas is 20.1°C (9:22 AM CDT on June 10, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
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druthb |
@wunder 77098 |
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huginn |
druthb: The current temperature in West U, West University Place, Texas is 27.1°C (9:34 AM CDT on June 10, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1010 hPa (Rising). |
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nengard |
anyone remember if there is an existing bug report for the fact that the check in check boxes don't trigger holds or transfers? I know this is a long standing issue, just not sure how to find the bug report |
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nengard |
bug 3514 |
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nengard |
found it |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3514 major, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Returning items through patron Details tab doesn't activate all circulation functions |
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cait |
nengard: there shoudl be no check box now if the item is on hold |
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cait |
so a return should not be possible in that case |
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cait |
i think maybe transfers are not caught |
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nengard |
cait it still doesn't trigger transfers |
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nengard |
right |
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nengard |
i have confirmed this is the case on master and 3.14.x |
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nengard |
transfers are not triggered still |
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cait |
by transfer you mean a transfer caused by a hold? |
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nengard |
nope |
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nengard |
i mean a transfer |
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cait |
or is there a way to request a transfer without? |
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nengard |
here's the scenario |
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cait |
ah, so when the book needs to 'go back home' after return? |
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nengard |
yes |
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nengard |
i'll stop typing the scenario :) |
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cait |
ah ok :) |
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cait |
sorry :) |
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nengard |
no it's okay! |
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nengard |
Your 1 sentence was way better than the 6 I was going to write :) hehe |
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nengard |
going to put this info on the bug report |
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cait |
leaving for today - bye all |
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cait |
adiós |
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nengard |
gmcharlt around? |
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gmcharlt |
nengard: what's up? |
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nengard |
bug 10314 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10314 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , CanItemBeReserved does not respect the holds policies |
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nengard |
you changed the status on that last year and then there were replies after your failing it |
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nengard |
do you need more info on that? |
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gmcharlt |
I'll take a look at the video |
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gaetan_B |
bye! |
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reiveune |
bye |
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gmcharlt |
pianohacker: what are the additional packages in question? |
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JoeLib001 |
Hello Everyone. :-) I am still having problems with my Pending Orders not showing up when I go to receive them. I just upgraded from 3.14.x to 3.16. |
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talljoy |
hi koha! |
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talljoy |
got a quick package question. will running sudo /etc/init.d/koha-common restart cause any service disruption to libraries? safe to do during the day? |
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JoeLib001 |
Hello you. :-) |
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talljoy |
Good afternoon! |
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JoeLib001 |
I would guess that it would cause service disruption. Shouldn't cause it to be down for long though. |
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talljoy |
okay. i'm hesitant to pull a large library down due to my ignorance. ;-) |
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barton |
thanks JoeLib. That was going to be my guess as well. |
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barton |
right there with you talljoy. |
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JoeLib001 |
From what I understand, you would be restarting the services, which would take them down for a short period of time. It's just the way things work. |
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JoeLib001 |
I am dealing with an issue where I can't see any Pending Orders. |
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JoeLib001 |
Which is driving me crazy. |
| 17:45 |
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JoeLib001 |
The only thing I have done is switch to 3.16 from 3.14 and I can't find anything that should have broken it. XD |
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talljoy |
pending orders? i.e. notforloan status is -1 or somesuch? |
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JoeLib001 |
In Acquisitons when I create an invoice, I should receive a list of pending orders, so I can receive them on the invoice. Nothing shows up. |
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JoeLib001 |
I found the bit of code that spits out a list of pending orders, created a MySQL Report, and ran that. That actually shows what it should, so I have no idea what's broken. ;-) |
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talljoy |
curious. acq is not one of my strongest areas. |
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talljoy |
but i suspect there was some db change in between 3.14 and 316 and the new acq is looking for something you don't have perhaps? did you check updatedatabase to see if anything changed at the db level? |
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talljoy |
or my favorite....create a dummy order to see what that looks like in the db and see how it's different from your other records. ;-) |
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talljoy |
good luck joe! |
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JoeLib001 |
Thanks. :-) |
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JoeLib001 |
The odd thing is that it still doesn't work, if I create a new order. |
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pianohacker |
gmcharlt: liblwp-protocol-https-perl | libwww-perl (<6.02), libio-socket-perl |
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pianohacker |
*io-socket-ssl-perl |
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barton |
I've got a quick question about zebra output logs... |
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barton |
I'm seeing the following, popping up every few seconds: |
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oleonard |
pianohacker: You kiss your mother with that mouth? |
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barton |
13:00:42-10/06 zebrasrv(3276) [warn] ir_session (exception) |
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gmcharlt |
pianohacker: two thoughts |
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gmcharlt |
1. bite the bullet and force add the deps when 3.16.1 is packaged (we'd need to check with eythian about that) |
| 18:06 |
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gmcharlt |
or |
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gmcharlt |
2. build a metapackage called koha-overdrive-support-deps or the like |
| 18:06 |
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gmcharlt |
that gets removed when 3.18 is relased |
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pianohacker |
gmcharlt: to avoid adding dependencies on a minor version update? |
| 18:07 |
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gmcharlt |
right |
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pianohacker |
yeah, makes sense |
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pianohacker |
add the overdrive-deps package to the Suggest: list or something |
| 18:07 |
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gmcharlt |
yeah |
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pianohacker |
sounds like a good idea, I'll talk to eythian about it |
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pianohacker |
I also need to check with him that my patch works, since I can't seem to get the debian packages to build |
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* cait |
waves |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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* dbs |
waves |
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magnuse |
~~~~~ |
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* pianohacker |
tilde's |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
pianohacker: learned how to say the time in spanish today :) (well in theory at least) |
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pianohacker |
cait: woo! |
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pianohacker |
cait: ¿Qué hora es? |
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cait |
hmm |
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cait |
son las diez menos 13? |
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cait |
trece...? |
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cait |
i said 'in theory' heh |
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cait |
21:47 here |
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pianohacker |
cait, hmm, not sure how this works with 24 hour time |
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pianohacker |
cait: Son las veintidos menos trece? |
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cait |
hm i think i could have added something about it being at night... |
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cait |
our examples in the book are not 24 hour time |
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pianohacker |
I'm not sure where that part goes |
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pianohacker |
cait: Son las diez de la noche menos trece? |
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pianohacker |
cait: sorry, heading out, bbl |
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pianohacker |
have a good evening! |
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cait |
pianohacker: sorry i ran away - cya soon :) |
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JoeLib001 |
Anyone know much about Acquisitions? I haven't been able to figure out why the invoices are not listing any pending orders. |
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nengard |
cause an invoice is for a finalized order ... not a pending order |
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nengard |
a pending order is in a basket |
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JoeLib001 |
I am trying to receive orders on my invoice, but none of them show up. |
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cait |
JoeLib001: if you want to receive - you have to make sure that you have closed the basket |
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JoeLib001 |
Oh... |
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cait |
also, you need to add a 'new shipment' from the vendor - that will create a new invoice |
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JoeLib001 |
I have never done that until now... |
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JoeLib001 |
New Shipment? |
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cait |
search for thevendor - there is a button |
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JoeLib001 |
Ah, yes, the receive shipment button. |
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JoeLib001 |
The step I was overlooking was the closing the basket in Koha. |
| 20:24 |
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JoeLib001 |
They are showing up to be received on my invoice now. |
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cait |
closed = ordered :) |
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JoeLib001 |
Thanks. :-) |
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JoeLib001 |
Now, I just need to close 2 years worth of baskets and we'll be golden..... XD |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
how did that happen? you never did the receive process? |
| 21:03 |
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JoeLib001 |
I did the receive process, but it never needed a closed basket to receive it. ;-) |
| 21:04 |
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JoeLib001 |
Somewhere between 3.14.? and 3.16 that was "fixed". XD |
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cait |
oh hm |
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cait |
we have been tellling libraries to close the baskets for some time now.. .i hope they do |
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cait |
you could do it with sql i think |
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nengard |
I've been telling librarians they don't have to close the basket |
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nengard |
cause they didn't have to |
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cait |
ifyou don't close it, the whole status system doesn't work |
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cait |
for example you can't search for 'ordered' orders |
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cait |
and for claiming i think you needed to close it for some versions now |
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nengard |
you can't search by ordered now ... do you mean 'pending' |
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cait |
you can search ordered |
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cait |
one sec |
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nengard |
i see 'new', 'pending', partially received, received, cnacelled |
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cait |
ah, maybe they renamed it to pending |
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cait |
so new = ordrs in non-closed baskets |
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cait |
pending = closed baskets |
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wizzyrea |
also ... baskets. |
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cait |
hm? |
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wizzyrea |
I hate this terminology. |
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cait |
true |
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cait |
i translated it mostly to order ... but it seems they keep coming back |
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pianohacker |
hi cait :) |
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cait |
wb pianohacker :) |
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pianohacker |
was running off to the gym |
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cait |
i was running off finding dinner :) |
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pianohacker |
oh right it's like 11 there now |
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eythian |
hi |
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wahanui |
niihau, eythian |
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cait |
hi eythian :) |
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eythian |
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+a[…]posts/8a7oUic3tib <-- Rijksmuseum library |
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wizzyrea |
...that is awesome |
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wizzyrea |
troutslap is <reply> https://24.media.tumblr.com/2b[…]1r33ieuo1_400.gif |
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wizzyrea |
troutslap? |
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wahanui |
https://24.media.tumblr.com/2b[…]1r33ieuo1_400.gif |
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JoeLib001 |
Thanks for the help nengard and cait. :-) I would send you both cookies, but they don't seem to fit in my ethernet cable. XD |
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JoeLib001 |
Bye for now. :-) |
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dcook |
Dang, Rijksmuseum library looks awesome |
