Time  Nick        Message
00:02 dcook       Yay! The Australian Federal Police have taken my money.
00:02 dcook       That's a good sign...
00:03 eythian     And they've gone to Rarotonga!
00:05 dcook       O_o
00:06 dcook       Well done them. It was only 40 bucks :)
01:27 dcook       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem
01:28 dcook       Huh...can't say I noticed that before
01:29 eythian     well hopefully you're on 64-bit anyway
01:31 dcook       Hope so :D
01:37 dcook       Hmm maybe not...
01:39 dcook       That's a bit nasty
01:47 pianohacker hmm. Is there a coding style reason Koha::MetadataRecord doesn't include a convenient constructor?
01:48 eythian     I can't check it right now, but maybe it doesn't need to.
01:49 eythian     If it's using Class::Accessor, the default might be enough
02:01 eythian     http://hashigozake.co.nz/images/murica.jpg <-- wizzyrea, here's a beer release for you :)
02:04 ibeardslee  I think I may have to try that just for the sake of having tried it and it appearing in my untappd list
02:07 * wizzyrea  doesn't know whether to be amused or offended
02:07 wizzyrea    a bit of both, likely. :D
02:27 gmcharlt    wizzyrea: depends on how good it tastes, perhaps ;)
02:40 pianohacker what the heck is an american pale ale?
02:41 ibeardslee  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Pale_Ale
02:54 pianohacker til
03:54 dcook       Yikes..
03:55 pastebot    "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "fetching from origin" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/41
03:56 dcook       Hmm..pruned it and now it works. Weird..
03:56 rangi       yep
03:57 rangi       git usually tells you exactly what you need to do to fix
03:57 rangi       its because i switch what was a branch, into a dir
03:57 rangi       basically a branch you had fetched had been deleted upstream
03:57 rangi       so you needed to prune your local copy
03:59 dcook       Not sure I understand the branch vs dir thing, but makes sense otherwise :)
04:00 eythian     dcook: ls .git/refs/heads
04:00 eythian     all a branch is is a file that points to a commit hash
04:01 eythian     (whenever a git gc runs, they actually get packed away for faster access, so it's not _quite_ that simple, but it more or less is.)
04:03 dcook       Right...but you can also have a directory that stores branches within it?
04:03 eythian     sure
04:03 eythian     look in the origin direction within that.
04:03 eythian     oh actually
04:03 eythian     that shouldn't exist
04:04 eythian     I think it's a legacy of when I screwed something up in my repo
04:04 dcook       "refs/remotes/origin/MM-OPAC" was stale
04:04 dcook       and "MM-OPAC/bug_11169" was new
04:04 eythian     but anyway, whenever you call something 'branch/name', that's a directory.
04:04 dcook       "refs/remotes/origin/MM-OPAC" looks funny as though
04:04 dcook       Good to know :)
04:04 eythian     that's just the full name
04:04 dcook       I'm surprised it's used though
04:05 dcook       Is it because it is stale/deleted?
04:05 eythian     so probably there was a file there, and it wanted a directory there instead, so thing blew up until you cleaned it.
04:05 dcook       I think it was like rangi said. It wanted a branch but it wasn't there anymore, so it 'sploded
04:05 dcook       branch/file*
04:06 dcook       I do love me some git..
04:06 dcook       ^ not sarcasm
04:06 dcook       I actually do really like it
05:39 eythian     hi cait
05:39 eythian     and hi sophie_m
05:39 cait        hi eythian
06:24 cait        @wunder Konstanz
06:24 huginn      cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 21.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on June 12, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1022 hPa (Rising).
06:25 dcook       Hmm, I think I actually get our Z39.50 code now...mostly
06:25 dcook       Could really benefit from some functional decomposition, me thinks
06:25 * eythian   nominates dcook the expert in that too.
06:25 dcook       When I have the time, I so want to
06:26 magnuse     @wunder boo
06:26 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on June 12, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling).
06:26 dcook       Actually, it's tempting just to document the crap out of what we have right now...
06:26 * dcook     might do that tomorrow...
06:29 * magnuse   cheers dcook on
06:44 reiveune    hello
06:44 wahanui     privet, reiveune
06:49 magnuse     @wunder marseille
06:49 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 22.1°C (8:49 AM CEST on June 12, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
06:50 alex_a      bonjour
06:50 wahanui     niihau, alex_a
06:50 magnuse     bonjour france
06:57 alex_a      salut magnuse
07:00 magnuse     hiya alex_a
07:04 magnuse     woohoo for bug 6254
07:05 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6254 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , can't set patron privacy by default
07:10 dcook       Mmm lovely encoding issues...
07:11 Joubu       hello #koha
07:11 dcook       salut Joubu
07:23 gaetan_B    hello
07:23 wahanui     hola, gaetan_B
07:26 dcook       Got to love when you retrieve a record via z39.50 but can't get it through a library's actual catalogue
07:27 dcook       Hmm, maybe that's a sign...as the data I'm getting from Voyagar via z39.50 is rather...weird
07:30 dcook       Bleargh...then again...
07:31 magnuse     gmcharlt++ for working on bug 11944
07:31 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8
07:31 * dcook     needs to apprentice under gmcharlt for all things UTF8/encoding related
07:31 magnuse     dcook: weird as in "it's a MARC record"
07:31 magnuse     ?
07:32 magnuse     yeah, encoding issues suck
07:32 dcook       As far as I know, everything I'm doing should be UTF8 clean but getting issues :/
07:32 magnuse     :-(
07:33 magnuse     there was a blogpost about unicode and perl, i havn't read it yet...
07:33 dcook       I think I've read every one of them :p
07:33 dcook       Most of the comprehensive ones seem to say it's technically impossible
07:34 magnuse     ah, it was stackoverflow: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6162484/why-does-modern-perl-avoid-utf-8-by-default/6163129
07:34 dcook       Yeah, I think that's the one I read the most recently :/
07:35 magnuse     ah
07:35 magnuse     the "𝕭𝖔𝖎𝖑𝖊𝖗⸗𝖕𝖑𝖆𝖙𝖊  𝖋𝖔𝖗  𝖀𝖓𝖎𝖈𝖔𝖉𝖊⸗𝕬𝖜𝖆𝖗𝖊  𝕮𝖔𝖉𝖊" looks pretty crazy
07:35 magnuse     but it looks like some of it is not related to unicode...
07:36 dcook       Now it seems to be working...for no reason at all
07:36 dcook       I noticed my browser had switched encodings for some reason...even though it had been on unicode
07:36 * dcook     had checked about 15 minutes ago
07:37 eythian     now consider that perl has among the best UTF8 support anywhere.
07:37 eythian     on that thought, I'm leaving :)
07:37 dcook       eythian: Oh God, I know...PHP is a nightmare...
07:37 dcook       Night :)
07:37 * dcook     should really go home too..
07:37 dcook       Or to the vet rather..
07:38 * dcook     thinks he must be wicked as he doesn't appear to get rest..
07:38 magnuse     dcook: you need to be examined by a vet?!?
07:38 eythian     I guess that's your only option with your current government breaking your health system
07:38 magnuse     have fun eythian
07:38 dcook       eythian: I think both my governments are breaking their respective health systems :/
07:39 * dcook     is thinking that one of the records from Voyager was already badly encoded...
07:43 magnuse     howdydoo ashimema and drojf
07:43 ashimema    morning magnuse
07:43 drojf       hi magnuse and #koha
07:49 dcook       I suppose I could probably tell more precisely if I looked at the data with a hex editor...
07:51 magnuse     fun fact: in norwegian "witch" = "heks", pronounced exactly like "hex"
07:51 dcook       That is a fun fact!
07:51 dcook       :)
07:52 dcook       Ahh, how is it 5:50...
07:52 dcook       ciao all
08:01 magnuse     have fun dcook
09:15 Joubu       new bug found relies on Perl hashes key order, see bug 12409
09:15 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12409 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , The test t/db_dependent/Record.t fails with Perl 5.18.2
09:47 magnuse     hm, isn't it quite common to want the userid to be equal to the cardnumber?
09:50 magnuse     how are libraries handling that? scanning the cardnumber both into the cardnumber and the userid ("Username") fields?
09:51 magnuse     hiya khall
09:51 khall       mornin magnuse!
09:54 fridolin    hie all
09:55 fridolin    jenkins has a pb updating from GIT, it sould be accessed manualy I think
09:55 fridolin    it's the pb : stderr: error: unable to resolve reference refs/remotes/origin/MM-OPAC/bug_11169: Not a directory
09:55 fridolin    it is corrected by a prune commande
09:59 * cait      waves to khall
09:59 cait        and to fridolin :)
10:00 khall       mornin cait!
10:00 fridolin    hie cait and khall
10:00 cait        magnuse: not usual here I'd say - we have libraries using chip cards and they need the userid to be different (something that is actually printed on the card andk nown by the user)
10:01 fridolin    khall: cait : do you know who manages Jenkins ?
10:01 khall       I always though it was rangi
10:02 cait        i thik he and gmcharlt can access jenkins, not sure about the nodes
10:09 fridolin    gmcharlt: rangi : someone is there ?
10:15 magnuse     cait: i found a jquery solution: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library#Passing_Cardnumber.2Fbarcode_through_to_UserID :-)
10:16 Joubu       fridolin: I already launched the git prune cmd 2 days ago
10:21 ashimema    I tihnk i've found a bug in the packages fix for adding .conf to apache config files..
10:21 * cait      waves to ashimema
10:21 ashimema    koha-create still tries a 'a2ensite instancename' without the .conf suffix.. can anyone lese varify this?
10:21 ashimema    hi cait
10:22 cait        ashimema: hm i thought we had fixed that
10:22 cait        ashimema: maybe not - sounds like a bug
10:23 cait        bug 12312 - maybe a similar fix is needed?
10:23 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12312 major, P1 - high, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , 3.16 packages ask to change Apache configuration even if Apache version is < 2.4
10:23 ashimema    I'm installing a new server now
10:23 cait        see the last patch there
10:23 ashimema    it doesn't break apache 2.2
10:23 cait        ah... but create has to do one thing... os i guess it shoudl do .conf...
10:25 ashimema    reading bug now.
10:25 ashimema    looks like exactly the issue.
10:27 ashimema    the patch is obviosly not in the package yet.. unless my cusotm pacakge has fallen behind somehow.
10:27 ashimema    thanks cait
10:29 fridolin    Joubu: ok. Jenkins is broken or another reason then
10:34 cait        ashimema: i think it should be in 31.6.1
10:35 cait        hm 3.16.1 then, we discovered it installing 3.16
10:36 ashimema    infrrf
10:39 cait        huh? :)
10:55 francharb   Good morning
12:21 oleonard    Hi #koha
12:31 cait        hi oleonard :)
12:31 Joubu       khall: around?
12:31 khall       yo
12:32 Joubu       khall: hi! You wrote a patch to fix the DB access problem from UT (when Dbix create a new connexion)
12:33 Joubu       khall: I though the patch was in master, but it seems no...
12:33 Joubu       khall: do you remember the bug number?
12:33 Joubu       not sure my first sentence is understandable...
12:34 khall       let me find it...
12:35 magnuse     Joubu, khall: have you looked at Test::DBIx::Class? it's pretty neat, i think
12:36 khall       yes, yes I did. However, gmcharlt didn't like the approach. I used the DBI handle for DBIC, and he wanted to use the DBIC handle for DBI instead. A patch was promised weeks ago, I think everyone should start sharpening their sticks and begin poking! ; )
12:36 khall       http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11891
12:36 huginn      04Bug 11891: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, In Discussion , Make Koha::Schema use C4::Context->dbh
12:37 magnuse     Test::DBIx::Class lets you mock data easily
12:37 khall       neat!
12:38 khall       Joubu: feel free to test and qa that patch. It's really Tomas's call now.
12:38 Joubu       Actually, the problem I found is that t/db_dpt/Circulation_issue.t fails because some category is inserted using the handler created by C4::Context but C4::Member::AddMember use DBIC to retrieve the categorycode...
12:38 khall       We can always put this in master now, and switch to the inverse when gmcharlt supplies his patch
12:38 Joubu       *some categories are*
12:38 khall       Joubu: yep, I've seen issues like that before
12:39 khall       I think this is a serious problem that needs to be addressed.
12:39 khall       I posted bug 11891 three months ago
12:39 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11891 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, In Discussion , Make Koha::Schema use C4::Context->dbh
12:40 Joubu       khall: ok, thanks for the bug number!
12:40 khall       np!
12:41 gmcharlt    khall: there are problems with that patch
12:41 gmcharlt    but I've got a better version almost ready to go
12:41 * gmcharlt  goes back to bed; more later
12:41 khall       gmcharlt: excellent! I guess everyone can put away their sticks ; )
12:43 pastebot    "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "here's how i'm using Test::DBIx::Class in a soon-to-be-submitted patch, hope it makes sense!" (47 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/42
12:43 Joubu       gmcharlt: I just posted a note, I didn't see you were around
14:21 ashimema    Test::DBIx::Class is cool..
14:21 ashimema    I like mocking data as much as pos..
14:21 ashimema    not that my unit testing is currenlty up to mcuh.. still an area i'm leanring in..
14:41 Joubu       rangi: around?
15:03 ztajoli     Hi, Zeno Tajoli
15:04 oleonard    Hi Zeno
15:10 ztajoli     No one here fro Dev Meeting ?
15:11 reiveune    bye
15:14 drojf       ztajoli: dev meeting was yesterday
15:16 ztajoli     sorry I read the wrong date (:-->
15:16 Joubu       @later tell rangi: could you please add the 3.16 entry for the version field on bugzilla?
15:17 huginn      Joubu: The operation succeeded.
15:18 Joubu       @later tell rangi: I don't know at all why jenkins fails on 3.14. I think we should execute the git prune cmd but I don't understand where (I tried workspace/Koha_master and workspace/Koha_3.14)
15:18 huginn      Joubu: The operation succeeded.
15:50 ztajoli     Bye
16:16 fridolin    Bye
16:24 gaetan_B    bye
17:37 mtompset    Greetings, #koha.
18:02 mtompset    Is someone going to git remote prune the 3.14.x building VM?
18:18 oleonard    mtompset: With what browser do you see tooltips for alt attributes?
18:18 mtompset    I was expecting tooltips for alts, that isnt to say I have seen it. I just don't recall seeing title in the HTML when I do.
18:19 mtompset    I use firefox under Windows for the most part.
18:37 pastebot    "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "what does this mean when i try to fetch the newest code ..." (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/44
18:41 nengard     any git experts around to explain the above for me?
18:41 nengard     gmcharlt maybe?
18:41 gmcharlt    nengard: rangi did some maintenance on the git repo during the weekend
18:41 gmcharlt    all you need to do is run
18:42 gmcharlt    git remote prune origin
18:43 ashimema    that's been asked a few times of late.
18:43 nengard     okay, I think I got it
18:43 nengard     thanks
19:19 pianohacker rangi++
19:19 pianohacker that's so much nicer
19:32 mtompset    ashimema: Yes it has been asked a few times.
19:53 * cait      waves
20:18 mtompset    Greetings, cait.
20:18 * mtompset  tries to get his abode flash to play again... silly windows upgrading process!
20:20 cait        hi mtj
20:20 cait        hm,... too slow
22:22 mtj         hi cait :)
22:22 cait        hi mtj :)
22:28 mtj         oops, on fone