IRC log for #koha, 2014-05-01

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00:02 mtompset oh shoot. Ubuntu just upgraded MySQL and it busted 7567. :(
00:02 mtompset The intrinsic type casting has changed a little.
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00:14 mtompset woah! lots to fetch.
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03:24 mtompset Greetings, eythian wizzyrea. :)
03:24 eythian hola
03:34 * wizzyrea waves
03:39 * dcook waves too
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03:42 dcook @later tell pianohacker no worries :)
03:42 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
03:46 mtompset Greetings, dcook.
03:46 mtompset Anyone want to help me redeem myself from a bad coding scenario by signing off a bug? :)
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03:53 dcook yo, mtompset
03:53 dcook Alas, I think my community work might have to wait a bit again :/
03:53 dcook gmcharlt++
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03:57 NickPBC Greetings Koha peoples!
03:57 NickPBC Not sure if anyone is on the channel, but if so, any chance I could ask a question about a strange search problem?
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03:58 Nicholas_PBC Greetings Koha peoples! Not sure if anyone is on the channel, but if so, any chance I could ask a question about a strange search problem?
03:59 dcook Nicholas_PBC / NickPBC: Maybe. What's up?
04:01 * dcook does a little happy dance
04:02 dcook Wife has been diagnosed. Hopefully only a few more days in the hospital on IV antibiotics.
04:02 dcook Week from hell hopefully nearly over...
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04:09 Nick .
04:11 dcook ?
04:13 Nick Sorry about that! Irc was being obstinate on me!
04:13 dcook Darned IRC! Happy to answer your answer if I can though, Nick
04:14 Nick Thanks!
04:14 Nick We've got am issue with search here. Basic search works well.
04:14 Nick Bit when I change the sorting to anything (such as a-z) it throws up an error
04:15 Nick, line 490, can't call method raw on an undefined value
04:16 Nick I've considered big 9864, though not sure if it applies or not
04:17 Nick Thinking 3.14.3 on fedora via the tarball
04:17 Nick *bug, that is :-)
04:18 wizzyrea but 9864
04:18 wizzyrea bug 9684
04:18 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9684 major, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, RESOLVED FIXED, Z39.50 Card View broken in CCSR
04:18 wizzyrea bug 9864
04:18 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9864 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , systematic searching error : can't call method "raw"
04:19 wizzyrea gosh it's handy to be able to type correctly.
04:19 dcook hehe
04:19 dcook 3.14.3 eh..
04:19 dcook Hmm, looks like my DB user had their password reset while I was away..
04:20 Nick :-)
04:22 dcook Hmm, not sure off the top of my head but I'll poke a little more
04:24 Nick Thanks! From memory it's been like this for a couple if months now, so not the most major of flaws
04:24 Nick (But it still irritates the staff! :-) )
04:31 dcook Alas, not really sure, Nick :/.
04:32 Nick That's okay. I'll keep squirrelling away at it, and file a bug report
04:32 Nick Thanks though!
04:33 dcook Probably wouldn't be too hard to figure it out if someone had the time to debug it, but alas I have other work to do at the moment :/.
04:33 dcook I think it's probably the same bug as 9864 though, if that helps
04:33 Nick Ah! Thanks for the hint!
04:35 dcook No worries :). My guess might be a Zebra misconfiguration but tough to say. Anyway, hope it gets fixed!
04:35 dcook I might have to look at it more in the future
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04:54 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
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05:36 eythian 3.14.06 packages uploading
05:37 eythian uploaded
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06:08 cait eythian++
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06:28 marcelr hi #koha
06:34 cait hi mar
06:35 cait hi marcelr
06:35 marcelr hi cait
06:39 cait marcel++
06:39 cait thx for taking the time to work through the mtt patches
06:39 marcelr np
06:40 cait we are close to finish line now :)
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06:51 mveron Good morning #koha
06:52 cait hi mveron
06:52 mveron hi cait
06:52 mveron @wunder Basel
06:52 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 11.7°C (8:52 AM CEST on May 01, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
06:53 mveron cait: Are there already things to translate?
06:53 cait not yet I think
06:54 mveron Ok :-)
06:55 cait i tried some cleaning up laast night.. of th edescriptions for accountlines
06:56 cait not sure if it's any good, i got quite tired - I'd be happy if someone could take a look
06:58 mveron Bug 11573 ?
06:58 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11573 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , change description of charges in account fines
07:00 mveron ...or Bug 12165 ?
07:00 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12165 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Add description of charges (bug 2546) to Bootstrap OPAC
07:09 marcelr hi mveron
07:13 cait marcelr++
07:13 cait sorry was afk for a moment
07:13 cait 12165 should be pretty safe
07:13 cait not so sure about 11573
07:17 marcelr bug 11573
07:17 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11573 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , change description of charges in account fines
07:18 mveron cait: Will have a look at Bug 12165 foday (could be afternoon).
07:18 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12165 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Add description of charges (bug 2546) to Bootstrap OPAC
07:18 cait mveron: cool thank you
07:18 mveron Welcome :-)
07:59 ashimema ok.. anyone.. how do I get Z25.90/SRU server working with packages.
08:00 ashimema Aha.. it was firewall..
08:00 ashimema ignore that
08:01 cait good, because i had no idea :)
08:01 cait hi ashimema
08:02 ashimema ack.. but the nasty dom vs grs1 bug is still in the packages..
08:02 ashimema :(
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08:22 cait ashimema: which one of the nasty bugs?
08:27 Joubu marcelr++
08:29 marcelr Joubu: your content check sounds better to me
08:35 Joubu marcelr: ok, I will provide a follow-up soon
08:41 ashimema the one marcel has fixed for non-packages already..
08:41 ashimema whihc menas that if your using dom and sru, then the sru result is an index list instead of a marc record.
08:42 marcelr ashimena: tcohen was also asking for the packages variant already :)
08:42 ashimema yeah.. I know ;)
08:42 ashimema I'de do the followup myself.. but I don't understand it all well enough really.
08:43 ashimema I've resorted to my hack for it.. comment out the line that give's indexes as an optin ;)
08:43 ashimema uour fix is muhc better ;)
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09:15 ashimema anyone out there I can bounce a few questions regarding apache config under packages?
09:32 cait @wunder Konstanz
09:32 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 12.1°C (11:30 AM CEST on May 01, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
09:33 cait ashimema: quiet today
09:46 ashimema it is indeed..
09:47 cait maybe aholiday somewhere else too?
09:47 ashimema maybe..
09:48 ashimema ours is on monday
09:48 Joubu yep, it is holiday in France today
09:50 bgkriegel and all America, but they are sleeping right now :)
09:51 ashimema I like that we tend to stick our bank holidays on Mondays or Fridays here in the UK.. it's nice to have a long wekeend.
09:51 ashimema s/wekeend/weekend/
09:52 cait people here often take off the friday
09:52 cait i like those 'bridge' days
09:52 cait for working - nice and quiet :)
09:54 bgkriegel :)
09:54 ashimema that's fair
09:54 ashimema I feel really behind at the moment.. could do with such a 'bridge' day to catch up.
09:55 ashimema anyone here happen to know how filepermissions and apache users in koha packages works?
09:56 ashimema I want to serve some files up in a directory aliased under a koha instance.. but although I can see the directory.. I can't get any further into it..
09:56 ashimema it works perfectly in a dev install though :(
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10:02 bgkriegel ashimema: only for one instance? they all share the same files
10:04 ashimema Yeah.. only for one instance.
10:04 ashimema normally I would 'Alias /custom/ /home/koha/var/www/opac' in the vhost and that works nice..
10:05 ashimema but in packages, I was going to do 'Alias /custom/ /var/lib/koha/instancename/www/opac'
10:05 ashimema but apache can't read further into that directory for some reason.
10:11 bgkriegel works for me, i put a similar entry inside instance conf, make the dir and put a simple index.php on it, and loads
10:13 bgkriegel only change is is trailing / on Alias, with it it gives error :)
10:13 bgkriegel so use 'Alias /custom /var/lib/koha/instancename/www/opac'
10:21 ashimema man.. how did I miss that typo..
10:21 ashimema your right.. there's no trailing slash in my dev setup version.
10:21 ashimema thanks bgkriegel
10:22 bgkriegel yw
10:22 cait bgkriegel++ # translations :)
10:22 cait bgkriegel # trailing slashes? :)
10:23 bgkriegel :)
11:04 cait @wunder Konstanz
11:04 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 13.0°C (1:00 PM CEST on May 01, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
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12:17 francharb morning
12:30 cait morning francharb
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12:32 francharb o/ cait
13:16 marcelr bgkriegel++ #signoff
13:22 cait bgkriegel++ :)
13:22 jcamins postfix?
13:22 wahanui postfix is found at (but you probably can skip the SASL stuff) or at
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14:29 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
14:31 dubya so...i was here yesterday (different name...thought better of it! please don't "remember" me if possible lol) and talked to a couple of awesome people about redoing an import. i've got an edited MARC file and every time i try to import it just doesn't take in anything. i assume it's because of my previous imports (which have been "undone" and are back in staging) there a way for me to just get rid of all of those and clean the slate without reinstalling k
14:31 dubya what i *should* have done was a VM snapshot but i was too excited to think of that. once this hits production i'm definitely doing that!
14:32 cait dubya: what is the message you get when trying to import?
14:32 dubya (ps: i'm completely aware these are all logged...oh well. i'd still rather go forward as dubya lol)
14:32 cait and what kind of file are you tying to import - did you convert it back to .mrc after editing?
14:32 dubya there wasn't an error, but the report at the end simply said 1 record (of just over 8k) was ready, and even that one didn't show
14:33 dubya but the file is roughly the same size as the original, non-edited it's not like it got completely wiped out
14:33 dubya (editing done in marceditor)
14:33 dubya it was mrk, should i save it again as mdc?
14:33 dubya mrc*
14:38 dubya ok yeah well that did it. should have thought of that, but i trusted marceditor to have a useable default lol
14:38 dubya now to see if the editing itself worked...
14:39 dubya before i go though, is there a way to wipe out the staging area? i guess it doesn't matter too much because i'm going to make a completely new VM and install for production, but i figured it'd be handy for future reference
14:40 dubya i even tried "cleaning" one of the failed ones and it just removed the one ghost record, but left it in the staging area
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14:43 cait sorry dubja
14:43 cait dubya... bit distrated today
14:43 gmcharlt Joubu++
14:43 cait yes, save again as mrc
14:43 cait marcedit can do that
14:43 dubya oooo, spanish-flavor. i like it :)
14:44 dubya anyway, yeah i've got it importing now thanks to the "well duh" moment of you asking for the file type
14:44 cait there is a cronjob that can clean those old staged things out for you i think... but not entirely sure
14:44 cait my coworker did something that does it on our servers (we import updates nightly, so the list grows :) )
14:45 dubya nightly? wow
14:45 dubya that explains the cronjob. i'm hoping to just do it once and be done lol
14:47 cait our libraries catalog into a union catalog - different model :)
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14:47 cait glad it worked for you now, les us know if the items got created?
14:47 cait i hope they did
14:48 cait but i am sure we will get that working too
14:48 dubya it looks like they did. and i see the barcode, and things look a little different in the record which is a good sign
14:48 dubya but...when i try to "check out" it says Software error:  No branchcode argument passed to Koha::Calendar->new at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 3152
14:49 cait hm ok
14:49 cait what are your 952$a and $b set to?
14:49 dubya i had added a branch code into the mrc file, to match the branch codes in koha
14:49 dubya yep that's where i put them
14:49 cait ok, and did you match it perfectly?
14:49 cait koha is case sensitive
14:49 cait also no additional spaces or the like
14:50 cait $abranchcode$bbranchcode
14:50 dubya let me look in the file
14:50 dubya it wasn't in there before so i added it...might have done it wrong
14:51 dubya they're on separate lines but it's like this =952  \\$bDES [newline] =952  \\$aDES
14:52 dubya not sure why b is first
14:52 cait ah
14:52 cait no new lines
14:52 cait you want it to be 1 952 line for each item
14:52 cait or koha will try and make an item out of each of those :)
14:53 dubya so =952 \\$aDES$bDES?
14:53 cait well or maybe in this case you got branchcodenewline and that didn't match
14:53 cait yep
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14:53 dubya ok how do i do that? i moved multiple things into 952
14:53 dubya or is it just those two?
14:53 dubya b/c i made that manually anyway
14:54 cait all the subfields shoudl beon one line
14:54 dubya also, i just discovered that there's 5 of each book. exactly 5...i have a feeling that's wrong (pretty sure we only have 1 of most things!)
14:54 cait if you have a text editor you like, you can edit the .mrk file with that
14:54 cait some have nifty search and replace features that could help you get it done
14:54 dubya how do i do that in a batch?
14:54 dubya yeah....but 8 thousand times?
14:54 cait dubya: that's probably because of the new lines, more than one 952 on a reacord
14:55 dubya got it
14:55 dubya kinda figured it might be related
14:55 cait can you paste one of your records maybe?
14:55 cait paste?
14:55 wahanui I eat paste! It's tasty!
14:55 dubya oh i think i might have gotten it
14:55 dubya there's a checkbox i missed
14:56 dubya add to existing...i bet that'll do it
14:56 dubya so...brb
14:56 cait good luck :)
14:57 cait jcamins++ # being awesome in helping me set up postfix
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15:10 dubya edits done, took me a while because i had to keep starting over because of not knowing the program well enough lol. now the moment of truth (well...the "little bit" of truth, have to unimport, upload, import the right one....etc)
15:10 cait keeping fingers crossed
15:16 dubya well it's taking a while to undo the last import so i'm gonna walk away for now. have a good one!
15:17 dubya this experiment is going pretty well overall, and i have to guys have made me think even more than koha is the way to go for us. great community support!
15:17 dubya hago
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16:02 rambutan @wunder 64507
16:02 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 8.3°C (11:02 AM CDT on May 01, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Falling).
16:02 rambutan @wunder boo
16:02 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (5:50 PM CEST on May 01, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
16:03 cait @wunder Konstanz
16:03 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 15.0°C (6:00 PM CEST on May 01, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1010 hPa (Falling).
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16:33 druthb @wunder 77098
16:33 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 21.1°C (11:33 AM CDT on May 01, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
16:33 druthb little cooler today.  :)
16:44 cait bgkriegel++
16:46 bgkriegel if I only know how to upload the patches without rewriting the text :(
16:51 bgkriegel now to lunch!
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16:55 cait bgkriegel: git-bz unhappy?
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17:21 dubya i'm baaaaack lol
17:21 cait how did it go?
17:21 dubya actually, i have more of a marcedit question than a koha one, but i figured you guys might be able to help out
17:21 dubya after a few goes at it, swimmingly
17:22 dubya *most* of the records are just about perfect now
17:22 dubya however, we noticed that with ones with multiple items, instead of splitting into two items it has one line with two barcodes. you can keyword search it, but it's not a valid barcode when you go to checkout
17:23 cait ah
17:23 cait yeah you need to totally separate 952 lines for that
17:23 dubya do you know how i would go about telling marcedit to preserve multiple entries and to create a line for each 852$whatever entry?
17:23 cait 952$a...$b...
17:23 cait 953$a...$b...
17:23 dubya yep
17:23 cait i tihnk it should be possible, but haven't used it much myself so far
17:25 dubya any idea where i might be able to find it out?
17:25 cait you could try the mailing list
17:26 dubya for kohl or do you mean marcedit?
17:26 cait both might be an option
17:26 dubya k
17:26 dubya alright i'll take a look
17:26 cait sorry to be no help there
17:26 cait how many records have multiple items?
17:26 dubya hey you've been awesome so far. you can't know it all lol
17:27 dubya i'll keep coming back if i need anything, i've already spoken highly of this chat to the librarians
17:27 dubya hagd
17:33 cait packages
17:33 wahanui packages is at
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17:51 pianohacker hallo
17:52 cait hi pianohacker
17:53 wajasu a very educational rant on unicode handling issues in languages:[…]g-type-is-broken/
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18:38 pianohacker hi cait
18:42 cait hi pianohacker
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20:00 pianohacker @later tell dcook though I realized halfway through it was an apache configuration problem, I went ahead and fixed the patch to remove the problem you were having.
20:00 huginn pianohacker: The operation succeeded.
21:06 rangi its debian bug squashing day at catalyst today, we are going to using some of your slides liw
21:08 cait catch some bugs!
21:09 rangi and this
21:22 cait Total number of release-critical bugs: 1636 <
21:22 cait some work for today
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21:27 cait hi eythian
21:27 eythian_ hiya
21:36 pianohacker out for the day
21:46 cait night all
21:46 wahanui goodnight cait. You'll be back.
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22:39 wizzyrea pianohacker - about? or was that an "i'm going away" last message
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23:08 wizzyrea actually never mind, all good :)
23:30 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
23:32 pianohacker wizzyrea: back now, what's up?
23:43 pianohacker Okay, have to head out again :)
23:52 wizzyrea hehe nopea ll good.
23:52 wizzyrea all*

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