IRC log for #koha, 2014-05-02

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01:45 wizzyrea gitify?
01:45 wahanui gitify is at
02:18 wizzyrea apache 2.4. annoying.
02:18 wizzyrea solvable, but annoying.
02:40 eythian_ really need to sit down and fix that one of these days
02:52 wizzyrea *nod*
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03:12 eythian_ wahanui: cory doctorow
03:12 wahanui cory doctorow is, like, not a real Doctor
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06:11 * magnuse waves
06:31 liw rangi, cool! have fun! (or, by this point, I hope you had fun?) and say hi to anyone who remembers me
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06:38 reiveune hello
06:38 wahanui what's up, reiveune
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06:50 alex_a bonjour
06:50 wahanui salut, alex_a
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07:16 magnuse Joubu++ for bz-splitter
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07:23 Joubu thanks magnuse. I hope that will help someone else than me :)
07:23 Joubu feedback, improvement ideas, etc. are welcomed!
07:24 magnuse very cool!
07:24 cait crazy neighbour working with some kind of loud electric gardening tool :(
07:24 cait i wanted a quiet work day!
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07:28 dcook bz-splitter?
07:29 cait dcook: was on the mailing list -
07:30 * dcook has pretty much been gone all week
07:30 dcook Just catching up on the mailing list now :)
07:30 cait Joubu++ # looks aweseome
07:31 cait bz-splitter is
07:31 cait bz-splitter?
07:31 wahanui bz-splitter is
07:35 magnuse maybe put a link to the source code in the footer?
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07:36 ashimema wow.. bz-splitter is awesome.. when did that happen?
07:37 * cait points at Joubu
07:37 ashimema Joubu++
07:38 ashimema sorting by patches is rather telling..
07:38 ashimema damn..
07:38 cait hm?
07:39 ashimema Filtered by Author and sorted by #Patches or #Bugs..
07:39 cait ah ok
07:39 ashimema Kyle and Jonathan ar the kings of koha patches
07:40 magnuse Joubu++
07:40 magnuse khall++
07:41 dcook Joubu++
07:41 dcook bz-splitter is pretty neat
07:42 paul_p 'morning koha
07:43 cait Joubu: I didn't realize about the web interface yesterday - it's super cool
07:44 dcook What's the # of bugs column?
07:44 dcook It doesn't seem to agree with Bugzilla..
07:45 Joubu dcook: it's the number of bugs for the 4 statuses
07:45 Joubu dcook: and a cronjob should be put every night, I don't know when the DB has been updated
07:45 dcook Hmm, that's what I thought. Definitely different from Bugzilla via the dashboard.
07:46 dcook Ahh
07:46 dcook Fair 'nuff
07:46 Joubu dcook: which numbers ?
07:46 dcook Well[…]gnoff&sharer_id=1 vs http://splitter.koha-community[…]tus=Needs+Signoff
07:47 dcook The first being the link from
07:48 dcook Ahh
07:48 dcook Wait, cancel that Ahh
07:48 dcook I'm looking at the assignee in Bugzilla
07:48 dcook Which would be a slightly different count
07:49 dcook As I guess you're using actual patches in bz-splitter
07:49 dcook Nevermind :)
07:50 Joubu dcook: the splitter tells you have 1 bugs (in NSO) with 1 patch. bugzilla tells the same
07:50 dcook Joubu: Yeah, I was looking at you as an example though
07:50 dcook splitter says 31 while bugzilla says 29 as an assignee
07:51 dcook But you have those alt patches on that other bug where you're not the assignee
07:51 dcook So I was just counting the wrong way
07:52 Joubu dcook: yes, the author name is the author of the patch
07:52 Joubu The script parse the git patch
07:52 magnuse might be nice if took the db configs from the config file, perhaps
07:53 Joubu magnuse: yes
07:54 Joubu magnuse: thanks for the patch!
07:54 magnuse and that script could probably use Dancer::Plugin::Database, just like the web app
07:55 magnuse did you evaluate Dancer v.s. Dancer2?
07:55 magnuse tiny tiny patch :-)
07:55 Joubu magnuse: no
07:57 cait oh nice... only 5675 words to translate... and big patches not even pushed yet *sobs a little*
07:57 dcook there there cait
08:00 cait but yay for separate help files
08:00 cait bgkriegel++
08:00 * magnuse was just about to say the same thing
08:00 magnuse bgkriegel++
08:01 * magnuse wishes he had the time for signing off bug 7939
08:01 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7939 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , Separate po files for different MARC dialects
08:01 cait there is other good things too
08:01 cait like moving languages out of the database
08:01 cait that woudl close like 6 bugs at once...
08:02 magnuse yay
08:02 magnuse bug 12017
08:02 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12017 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , Move language description out of database
08:02 magnuse in 3.18, for sure...
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08:29 atheia good morning!
08:30 cait morning atheia
08:30 cait atheia: any idea on how to translate holding libraries?
08:30 cait in opposite to home libraries?
08:30 cait :)
08:31 atheia I presume from English to German?
08:31 cait yeah
08:31 cait to make it worse.. it's for the OPAC - the new facets labelling
08:31 atheia For inspiration, how do you translate home libraries?
08:31 cait Besitzende Bibliothek
08:32 cait but open to ideas
08:32 atheia How about using Ursprungsbibliothek for Home library and Bestizende bibliothek for holding libraries?
08:32 atheia Or something like that
08:33 cait hm the holding library is just the 'place it is currently'
08:33 cait so not realy the one where it will stay... depending on configuration
08:33 cait i think ursprungsbilbiohtek might be hard on users too
08:34 magnuse bug 12173
08:34 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12173 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , Improving Plack support on the staff client OMNIBUS
08:34 atheia yea prbly.
08:34 cait atheia: i think displaying both would not make sense to our libraries...probably most displaying the home libraries
08:34 cait no floating collections here
08:36 cait atheia: thx for the input :)
08:36 atheia Aufenthaltsbibliothek for holding library?
08:36 cait i have been thinking about that
08:36 atheia cait: np — I'll prbly be badgering you with ideas for this now for ever :-)
08:37 cait i don't mind that: :)
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08:49 * magnuse waves to atheia
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08:55 atheia Hi magnuse
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09:05 mveron Hi #koha
09:08 magnuse hiya mveron
09:09 mveron cait: Heimatbibliothek vs Standortbibliothek? Like Heimatbahnhof (for trains)
09:09 mveron hiya magnuse, cait, everybody...
09:16 cait standortbibiothek is not bad
09:16 cait but bit worried about confusion with Standorte for locations
09:16 cait but probably the best idea so far
10:09 atheia +1 for mveron's suggestions :-)
10:10 * ashimema wishes he'd paid more attentin in school when it came to german lessons
10:12 cait Joubu++
10:12 cait ashimema: yes, that woudl have been nice ;)
10:12 * cait sometimes wished her last English teacher hadn't also been her sports teacher...
10:14 cait we didn't get along so well
10:30 ashimema but your english is excellent anyway
10:32 cait more thanks to koha :)
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11:38 ashimema its very quiet in here today
11:43 cait it is
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12:23 oleonard Hi #koha
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12:28 cait hi oleonard!
12:28 cait vacation?
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12:30 oleonard No, just a mixed-up schedule this week.
12:30 cait ah
12:30 cait well i noticed you were not around :)
12:30 oleonard It's nice to be missed :)
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13:35 dubya aww main cait isn't here. she's been working with me for a couple of days and i just wanted to report that the guy who handles MARCEdit is very responsive and i *think* we got it figured out! (figured i'd post anyway in case she saw the log lol)
13:35 dubya hago everyone!
13:49 * cait waves
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13:59 rambutan wafes!
14:00 rambutan @wunder 64507
14:00 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 12.5°C (8:59 AM CDT on May 02, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Falling).
14:00 rambutan @wunder boo
14:00 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (3:50 PM CEST on May 02, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
14:00 rambutan Ha! Warmer than boo for once.
14:03 cait Joubu++ and pianohacker PING!
14:09 druthb @wunder 77098
14:09 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 18.9°C (9:09 AM CDT on May 02, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
14:16 oleonard If the text in a MARC record contains "{acute}" instead of the actual accented character what does that mean? Is it a file format thing?
14:16 cait Joubu: thx a lot
14:17 cait looks familiar
14:17 cait could it be encoding? marc8?
14:21 oleonard Ah, found the conversion option in MarcEdit. That should fix it.
15:12 Joubu I have to go, have a good week-end #koha
15:18 cait bye Joubu and thx!
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16:17 reiveune bye
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16:39 * cait waves
17:23 * mveron Found something for the Quote of the day:  "A balanced diet is a cupcake in each hand."  Author Unknown
17:23 cait :)
17:28 ashimema hey cait..
17:28 cait hey ashimema...? :)
17:28 ashimema I'm aiming to QA marcel's xslt parser bug if your not already on the case before monday..
17:29 ashimema I'de also love to see the dom sru one go through before monday too.. but I can't QA it as I signed it off.. can you think of anyone who might be able to test that one?
17:30 cait yeah it's a problem :(
17:30 cait another sign off woul be good for me as well
17:30 cait i have looked at it, but i think i'd take me too much time, never used sru so far
17:30 cait i had asked tcohen, but i forgot to find out what he thinks
17:31 cait the good thing tho
17:31 cait no string changes
17:31 ashimema yeah.. that's true..
17:31 cait we could try and ask gmcharlt what he thinks
17:31 ashimema I'm putting his xslt patch through it's paces now..
17:31 ashimema had to re-configure my seraching ot test it
17:31 cait could you also take a look at the bootstrap fines thing? it's a bug and the only purpose it has is adding strings :)
17:31 gmcharlt if cait doesn't object, I'm willing to QA it
17:32 cait no objection from me at all
17:32 cait bootstrap account descriptions thing...
17:32 ashimema :)
17:33 ashimema that'd be awesome gmcharlt.. I think it's a fairly straight forward one to check.. so long as you know what your looking at ;)
17:34 * gmcharlt dives into MTT
17:35 ashimema cait: sure, I'll take a look at bootstrap fines
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17:35 * ashimema hand gmcharlt a scotch for diving into mtt
17:35 * cait hopes gmcharlt will not get lost
17:36 ashimema I got overwhelmed when I started looking at MTT.. it's an awesome dev, but it's broad and far reaching.. and so rather scary too
17:45 cait ... could you also write this script for me?
17:45 cait (thought i might be worth trying) *sigh*
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18:59 cait oleonard is back :)
19:03 oleonard Ugh. GROUP_CONCAT is evil.
19:03 oleonard No way to solve Bug 12152 for all applicable columns using template plugins because of the GROUP_CONCAT results
19:04 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12152 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Holds to pull report should show library and itype description instead of their codes
19:07 gmcharlt cait: FYI, I will be bouncing 11561 all the way up to pushed because it fixes a behavior change introduced by MTT for print notices
19:07 oleonard Bug 11561
19:07 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11561 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Preventing duplicate print notices and enforcing a print notice if no notices can be generated
19:12 cait gmcharlt: ok
19:12 cait i hope to test the feature some in the beta
19:13 * druthb and her team are reading up on mod_security.  It's like this:
19:13 gmcharlt hee
19:14 druthb It's like trying to cram a bunch of pointy things into a fragile paper bag….
19:15 * cait sends druthb and gmcharlt more cookies
19:15 druthb It's Friday afternoon, and there's a company party tonight at 7—this place is a *graveyard* now.  All the geeks have run out for haircuts before the fancy party.
19:16 * oleonard got his on his lunch break
19:17 oleonard Bye #koha
19:24 gmcharlt cait: I will also be promoting 11867
19:25 cait bug 11867
19:25 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11867 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Multi transport types: Manage *_PHONE notices
19:25 cait ok, and thx
19:25 cait i had hoped kyle would be around, but they had the staff retreat
19:32 druthb yeah, they're all traveling home today
19:32 cait i think mostly bywater cusotmers using the phone notices so far
19:33 cait washoe and some others probably?
19:33 gmcharlt yeah
19:34 * gmcharlt looks forward to phone support that isn't just for one provider
19:34 cait we could ask him to take a look when in beta
19:34 cait i think people would hate phone notices in germany
19:35 cait never heard of a library doing that - i think email and print, maybe sms
19:35 cait but calling someone ... *shudder*
19:36 jcamins I recently got a phone call from the library telling me a book I had requested was available. It was... not appreciated, actually.
19:37 gmcharlt sems to be a generational thing in the US
19:38 jcamins They had to call me during the day to tell me something they were just going to e-mail about anyway?
19:38 jcamins True. And I appreciate being informed when books are available... but if you can inform me without taking my time, I prefer that.
19:39 cait libraries... all so different everywhere... :)
20:27 gmcharlt wow
20:27 cait good or bad wow?
20:27 gmcharlt testing for MTT revealed a pretty serious regression introduced by one of the patches for bug 11182
20:27 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11182 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Warnings in circulation
20:27 cait oh
20:28 cait bad regressions being cuaght are good
20:28 cait what is it?
20:28 gmcharlt the circ returns script didn't properly intialize the staff user branch
20:28 gmcharlt meaning that , for example, checking in would suggest that /all/ items filling hods need to be transferred
20:29 cait ugh
20:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #1725 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:31 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11182: (follow-up) fix regression where session branch wasn't initialized <[…]4a27b1c31c9ae3fe4>
20:39 cait gmcharlt++
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21:21 cait gmcharlt++
21:21 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9016: (follow-up) standardize case of message transport type columns <[…]ef622f8a548b67bc6> / Bug 9016: (follow-up) treat missing transports for overdue notices as warnings <[…]ba558b4bd786696a3> / Bug 9016: (follow-up) treat missing transports for predue
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22:52 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1725: SUCCESS in 2 hr 23 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1725/
22:52 jenkins_koha Galen Charlton: Bug 11182: (follow-up) fix regression where session branch wasn't initialized
22:52 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11182 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Warnings in circulation
22:56 jenkins_koha Starting build #1726 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10694: (follow-up) display the note about restricted patrons consistently <[…]320b72a3f21707e7d> / Bug 10694: (follow-up) fix problems with the new Borrowers plugin <[…]94739893ff31ca833> / Bug 10694: (follow-up) remove truncate table from test case <http
23:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11369: (follow-up) generate searchid in browser.js <[…]a3a2bec2bdbc4477e> / Bug 11369: (follow-up) Correct usage of me.searchid in browser.js <[…]26a176ed12a04300d> / Bug 11369: fix issue that can cause staff client searches to stop working <http://git.ko
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