Time  Nick         Message
23:52 wizzyrea     all*
23:52 wizzyrea     hehe nopea ll good.
23:43 pianohacker  Okay, have to head out again :)
23:32 pianohacker  wizzyrea: back now, what's up?
23:30 mtompset     Have a great day, #koha.
23:08 wizzyrea     actually never mind, all good :)
22:39 wizzyrea     pianohacker - about? or was that an "i'm going away" last message
21:46 wahanui      goodnight cait. You'll be back.
21:46 cait         night all
21:36 pianohacker  out for the day
21:27 eythian_     hiya
21:27 cait         hi eythian
21:22 cait         some work for today
21:22 cait         Total number of release-critical bugs: 1636 <
21:09 rangi        and this https://wiki.debian.org/BSP
21:08 cait         catch some bugs!
21:06 rangi        its debian bug squashing day at catalyst today, we are going to using some of your slides liw
20:00 huginn       pianohacker: The operation succeeded.
20:00 pianohacker  @later tell dcook though I realized halfway through it was an apache configuration problem, I went ahead and fixed the patch to remove the problem you were having.
18:42 cait         hi pianohacker
18:38 pianohacker  hi cait
17:53 wajasu       a very educational rant on unicode handling issues in languages: http://mortoray.com/2013/11/27/the-string-type-is-broken/
17:52 cait         hi pianohacker
17:51 pianohacker  hallo
17:33 wahanui      packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
17:33 cait         packages
17:27 dubya        hagd
17:27 dubya        i'll keep coming back if i need anything, i've already spoken highly of this chat to the librarians
17:26 dubya        hey you've been awesome so far. you can't know it all lol
17:26 cait         how many records have multiple items?
17:26 cait         sorry to be no help there
17:26 dubya        alright i'll take a look
17:26 dubya        k
17:26 cait         both might be an option
17:26 dubya        for kohl or do you mean marcedit?
17:25 cait         you could try the mailing list
17:25 dubya        any idea where i might be able to find it out?
17:23 cait         i tihnk it should be possible, but haven't used it much myself so far
17:23 dubya        yep
17:23 cait         953$a...$b...
17:23 cait         952$a...$b...
17:23 dubya        do you know how i would go about telling marcedit to preserve multiple entries and to create a line for each 852$whatever entry?
17:23 cait         yeah you need to totally separate 952 lines for that
17:23 cait         ah
17:22 dubya        however, we noticed that with ones with multiple items, instead of splitting into two items it has one line with two barcodes. you can keyword search it, but it's not a valid barcode when you go to checkout
17:22 dubya        *most* of the records are just about perfect now
17:21 dubya        after a few goes at it, swimmingly
17:21 dubya        actually, i have more of a marcedit question than a koha one, but i figured you guys might be able to help out
17:21 cait         how did it go?
17:21 dubya        i'm baaaaack lol
16:55 cait         bgkriegel: git-bz unhappy?
16:51 bgkriegel    now to lunch!
16:46 bgkriegel    if I only know how to upload the patches without rewriting the text :(
16:44 cait         bgkriegel++
16:33 druthb       little cooler today.  :)
16:33 huginn       druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 21.1°C (11:33 AM CDT on May 01, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
16:33 druthb       @wunder 77098
16:03 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 15.0°C (6:00 PM CEST on May 01, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1010 hPa (Falling).
16:03 cait         @wunder Konstanz
16:02 huginn       rambutan: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (5:50 PM CEST on May 01, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
16:02 rambutan     @wunder boo
16:02 huginn       rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 8.3°C (11:02 AM CDT on May 01, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Falling).
16:02 rambutan     @wunder 64507
15:17 dubya        hago
15:17 dubya        this experiment is going pretty well overall, and i have to say...you guys have made me think even more than koha is the way to go for us. great community support!
15:16 dubya        well it's taking a while to undo the last import so i'm gonna walk away for now. have a good one!
15:10 cait         keeping fingers crossed
15:10 dubya        edits done, took me a while because i had to keep starting over because of not knowing the program well enough lol. now the moment of truth (well...the "little bit" of truth, have to unimport, upload, import the right one....etc)
14:57 cait         jcamins++ # being awesome in helping me set up postfix
14:56 cait         good luck :)
14:56 dubya        so...brb
14:56 dubya        add to existing...i bet that'll do it
14:55 dubya        there's a checkbox i missed
14:55 dubya        oh i think i might have gotten it
14:55 wahanui      I eat paste! It's tasty! http://paste.koha-community.org
14:55 cait         paste?
14:55 cait         can you paste one of your records maybe?
14:55 dubya        kinda figured it might be related
14:55 dubya        got it
14:54 cait         dubya: that's probably because of the new lines, more than one 952 on a reacord
14:54 dubya        yeah....but 8 thousand times?
14:54 dubya        how do i do that in a batch?
14:54 cait         some have nifty search and replace features that could help you get it done
14:54 cait         if you have a text editor you like, you can edit the .mrk file with that
14:54 dubya        also, i just discovered that there's 5 of each book. exactly 5...i have a feeling that's wrong (pretty sure we only have 1 of most things!)
14:54 cait         all the subfields shoudl beon one line
14:53 dubya        b/c i made that manually anyway
14:53 dubya        or is it just those two?
14:53 dubya        ok how do i do that? i moved multiple things into 952
14:53 cait         yep
14:53 cait         well or maybe in this case you got branchcodenewline and that didn't match
14:53 dubya        so =952 \\$aDES$bDES?
14:52 cait         or koha will try and make an item out of each of those :)
14:52 cait         you want it to be 1 952 line for each item
14:52 cait         no new lines
14:52 cait         ah
14:52 dubya        not sure why b is first
14:51 dubya        they're on separate lines but it's like this =952  \\$bDES [newline] =952  \\$aDES
14:50 dubya        it wasn't in there before so i added it...might have done it wrong
14:50 dubya        let me look in the file
14:50 cait         $abranchcode$bbranchcode
14:49 cait         also no additional spaces or the like
14:49 cait         koha is case sensitive
14:49 cait         ok, and did you match it perfectly?
14:49 dubya        yep that's where i put them
14:49 dubya        i had added a branch code into the mrc file, to match the branch codes in koha
14:49 cait         what are your 952$a and $b set to?
14:49 cait         hm ok
14:48 dubya        but...when i try to "check out" it says Software error:  No branchcode argument passed to Koha::Calendar->new at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Circulation.pm line 3152
14:48 dubya        it looks like they did. and i see the barcode, and things look a little different in the record which is a good sign
14:48 cait         but i am sure we will get that working too
14:47 cait         i hope they did
14:47 cait         glad it worked for you now, les us know if the items got created?
14:47 cait         our libraries catalog into a union catalog - different model :)
14:45 dubya        that explains the cronjob. i'm hoping to just do it once and be done lol
14:45 dubya        nightly? wow
14:44 cait         my coworker did something that does it on our servers (we import updates nightly, so the list grows :) )
14:44 cait         there is a cronjob that can clean those old staged things out for you i think... but not entirely sure
14:44 dubya        anyway, yeah i've got it importing now thanks to the "well duh" moment of you asking for the file type
14:43 dubya        oooo, spanish-flavor. i like it :)
14:43 cait         marcedit can do that
14:43 cait         yes, save again as mrc
14:43 gmcharlt     Joubu++
14:43 cait         dubya... bit distrated today
14:43 cait         sorry dubja
14:40 dubya        i even tried "cleaning" one of the failed ones and it just removed the one ghost record, but left it in the staging area
14:39 dubya        before i go though, is there a way to wipe out the staging area? i guess it doesn't matter too much because i'm going to make a completely new VM and install for production, but i figured it'd be handy for future reference
14:38 dubya        now to see if the editing itself worked...
14:38 dubya        ok yeah well that did it. should have thought of that, but i trusted marceditor to have a useable default lol
14:33 dubya        mrc*
14:33 dubya        it was mrk, should i save it again as mdc?
14:33 dubya        (editing done in marceditor)
14:33 dubya        but the file is roughly the same size as the original, non-edited one...so it's not like it got completely wiped out
14:32 dubya        there wasn't an error, but the report at the end simply said 1 record (of just over 8k) was ready, and even that one didn't show
14:32 cait         and what kind of file are you tying to import - did you convert it back to .mrc after editing?
14:32 dubya        (ps: i'm completely aware these are all logged...oh well. i'd still rather go forward as dubya lol)
14:32 cait         dubya: what is the message you get when trying to import?
14:31 dubya        what i *should* have done was a VM snapshot but i was too excited to think of that. once this hits production i'm definitely doing that!
14:31 dubya        so...i was here yesterday (different name...thought better of it! please don't "remember" me if possible lol) and talked to a couple of awesome people about redoing an import. i've got an edited MARC file and every time i try to import it just doesn't take in anything. i assume it's because of my previous imports (which have been "undone" and are back in staging)...is there a way for me to just get rid of all of those and clean the slate without reinstalling k
14:29 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
13:22 wahanui      postfix is found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix (but you probably can skip the SASL stuff) or at http://www.postfix.org/documentation.html
13:22 jcamins      postfix?
13:22 cait         bgkriegel++ :)
13:16 marcelr      bgkriegel++ #signoff
12:32 francharb    o/ cait
12:30 cait         morning francharb
12:17 francharb    morning
11:04 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 13.0°C (1:00 PM CEST on May 01, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
11:04 cait         @wunder Konstanz
10:23 bgkriegel    :)
10:22 cait         bgkriegel # trailing slashes? :)
10:22 cait         bgkriegel++ # translations :)
10:22 bgkriegel    yw
10:21 ashimema     thanks bgkriegel
10:21 ashimema     your right.. there's no trailing slash in my dev setup version.
10:21 ashimema     man.. how did I miss that typo..
10:13 bgkriegel    so use 'Alias /custom /var/lib/koha/instancename/www/opac'
10:13 bgkriegel    only change is is trailing / on Alias, with it it gives error :)
10:11 bgkriegel    works for me, i put a similar entry inside instance conf, make the dir and put a simple index.php on it, and loads
10:05 ashimema     but apache can't read further into that directory for some reason.
10:05 ashimema     but in packages, I was going to do 'Alias /custom/ /var/lib/koha/instancename/www/opac'
10:04 ashimema     normally I would 'Alias /custom/ /home/koha/var/www/opac' in the vhost and that works nice..
10:04 ashimema     Yeah.. only for one instance.
10:02 bgkriegel    ashimema: only for one instance? they all share the same files
09:56 ashimema     it works perfectly in a dev install though :(
09:56 ashimema     I want to serve some files up in a directory aliased under a koha instance.. but although I can see the directory.. I can't get any further into it..
09:55 ashimema     anyone here happen to know how filepermissions and apache users in koha packages works?
09:54 ashimema     I feel really behind at the moment.. could do with such a 'bridge' day to catch up.
09:54 ashimema     that's fair
09:54 bgkriegel    :)
09:52 cait         for working - nice and quiet :)
09:52 cait         i like those 'bridge' days
09:52 cait         people here often take off the friday
09:51 ashimema     s/wekeend/weekend/
09:51 ashimema     I like that we tend to stick our bank holidays on Mondays or Fridays here in the UK.. it's nice to have a long wekeend.
09:50 bgkriegel    and all America, but they are sleeping right now :)
09:48 Joubu        yep, it is holiday in France today
09:48 ashimema     ours is on monday
09:47 ashimema     maybe..
09:47 cait         maybe aholiday somewhere else too?
09:46 ashimema     it is indeed..
09:33 cait         ashimema: quiet today
09:32 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 12.1°C (11:30 AM CEST on May 01, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
09:32 cait         @wunder Konstanz
09:15 ashimema     anyone out there I can bounce a few questions regarding apache config under packages?
08:43 ashimema     uour fix is muhc better ;)
08:43 ashimema     I've resorted to my hack for it.. comment out the line that give's indexes as an optin ;)
08:42 ashimema     I'de do the followup myself.. but I don't understand it all well enough really.
08:42 ashimema     yeah.. I know ;)
08:42 marcelr      ashimena: tcohen was also asking for the packages variant already :)
08:41 ashimema     whihc menas that if your using dom and sru, then the sru result is an index list instead of a marc record.
08:41 ashimema     the one marcel has fixed for non-packages already..
08:35 Joubu        marcelr: ok, I will provide a follow-up soon
08:29 marcelr      Joubu: your content check sounds better to me
08:27 Joubu        marcelr++
08:22 cait         ashimema: which one of the nasty bugs?
08:02 ashimema     :(
08:02 ashimema     ack.. but the nasty dom vs grs1 bug is still in the packages..
08:01 cait         hi ashimema
08:01 cait         good, because i had no idea :)
08:00 ashimema     ignore that
08:00 ashimema     Aha.. it was firewall..
07:59 ashimema     ok.. anyone.. how do I get Z25.90/SRU server working with packages.
07:18 mveron       Welcome :-)
07:18 cait         mveron: cool thank you
07:18 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12165 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Add description of charges (bug 2546) to Bootstrap OPAC
07:18 mveron       cait: Will have a look at Bug 12165 foday (could be afternoon).
07:17 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11573 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , change description of charges in account fines
07:17 marcelr      bug 11573
07:13 cait         not so sure about 11573
07:13 cait         12165 should be pretty safe
07:13 cait         sorry was afk for a moment
07:13 cait         marcelr++
07:09 marcelr      hi mveron
07:00 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12165 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Add description of charges (bug 2546) to Bootstrap OPAC
07:00 mveron       ...or Bug 12165 ?
06:58 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11573 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , change description of charges in account fines
06:58 mveron       Bug 11573 ?
06:56 cait         not sure if it's any good, i got quite tired - I'd be happy if someone could take a look
06:55 cait         i tried some cleaning up laast night.. of th edescriptions for accountlines
06:54 mveron       Ok :-)
06:53 cait         not yet I think
06:53 mveron       cait: Are there already things to translate?
06:52 huginn       mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 11.7°C (8:52 AM CEST on May 01, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
06:52 mveron       @wunder Basel
06:52 mveron       hi cait
06:52 cait         hi mveron
06:51 mveron       Good morning #koha
06:40 cait         we are close to finish line now :)
06:39 marcelr      np
06:39 cait         thx for taking the time to work through the mtt patches
06:39 cait         marcel++
06:35 marcelr      hi cait
06:35 cait         hi marcelr
06:34 cait         hi mar
06:28 marcelr      hi #koha
06:08 cait         eythian++
05:37 eythian      uploaded
05:36 eythian      3.14.06 packages uploading
04:54 mtompset     Have a great day, #koha.
04:35 dcook        I might have to look at it more in the future
04:35 dcook        No worries :). My guess might be a Zebra misconfiguration but tough to say. Anyway, hope it gets fixed!
04:33 Nick         Ah! Thanks for the hint!
04:33 dcook        I think it's probably the same bug as 9864 though, if that helps
04:33 dcook        Probably wouldn't be too hard to figure it out if someone had the time to debug it, but alas I have other work to do at the moment :/.
04:32 Nick         Thanks though!
04:32 Nick         That's okay. I'll keep squirrelling away at it, and file a bug report
04:31 dcook        Alas, not really sure, Nick :/.
04:24 Nick         (But it still irritates the staff! :-) )
04:24 Nick         Thanks! From memory it's been like this for a couple if months now, so not the most major of flaws
04:22 dcook        Hmm, not sure off the top of my head but I'll poke a little more
04:20 Nick         :-)
04:19 dcook        Hmm, looks like my DB user had their password reset while I was away..
04:19 dcook        3.14.3 eh..
04:19 dcook        hehe
04:19 wizzyrea     gosh it's handy to be able to type correctly.
04:18 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9864 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , systematic searching error : can't call method "raw"
04:18 wizzyrea     bug 9864
04:18 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9684 major, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, RESOLVED FIXED, Z39.50 Card View broken in CCSR
04:18 wizzyrea     bug 9684
04:18 wizzyrea     but 9864
04:17 Nick         *bug, that is :-)
04:17 Nick         Thinking 3.14.3 on fedora via the tarball
04:16 Nick         I've considered big 9864, though not sure if it applies or not
04:15 Nick         Search.pm, line 490, can't call method raw on an undefined value
04:14 Nick         Bit when I change the sorting to anything (such as a-z) it throws up an error
04:14 Nick         We've got am issue with search here. Basic search works well.
04:14 Nick         Thanks!
04:13 dcook        Darned IRC! Happy to answer your answer if I can though, Nick
04:13 Nick         Sorry about that! Irc was being obstinate on me!
04:11 dcook        ?
04:09 Nick         .
04:02 dcook        Week from hell hopefully nearly over...
04:02 dcook        Wife has been diagnosed. Hopefully only a few more days in the hospital on IV antibiotics.
04:01 * dcook      does a little happy dance
03:59 dcook        Nicholas_PBC / NickPBC: Maybe. What's up?
03:58 Nicholas_PBC Greetings Koha peoples! Not sure if anyone is on the channel, but if so, any chance I could ask a question about a strange search problem?
03:57 NickPBC      Not sure if anyone is on the channel, but if so, any chance I could ask a question about a strange search problem?
03:57 NickPBC      Greetings Koha peoples!
03:53 dcook        gmcharlt++
03:53 dcook        Alas, I think my community work might have to wait a bit again :/
03:53 dcook        yo, mtompset
03:46 mtompset     Anyone want to help me redeem myself from a bad coding scenario by signing off a bug? :)
03:46 mtompset     Greetings, dcook.
03:42 huginn       dcook: The operation succeeded.
03:42 dcook        @later tell pianohacker no worries :)
03:39 * dcook      waves too
03:34 * wizzyrea   waves
03:24 eythian      hola
03:24 mtompset     Greetings, eythian wizzyrea. :)
00:14 mtompset     woah! lots to fetch.
00:02 mtompset     The intrinsic type casting has changed a little.
00:02 mtompset     oh shoot. Ubuntu just upgraded MySQL and it busted 7567. :(