IRC log for #koha, 2014-04-01

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00:00 mtompset Not sure... let me go hunting again.
00:00 mtj hmm 10823 and 10825 perhaps
00:00 mtompset sounds right.
00:02 mtompset I don't know what to respond to KF's question regarding div vs. span.
00:02 mtj just reading up now… :)
00:03 mtompset I just fixed up the itemloo vs. item problem on your patch.
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00:21 mtj mtompset, thanks for spotting that… its a pretty goofy mistake i made
00:21 mtompset It happens to the best of us.
00:22 mtompset If that looks gooed to you, you sign off 10823, and I'll sign off, and then we mark it as signed off, and QA should be able to take it away. :)
00:22 mtj yep , will do
00:23 mtj ill have a whack at them a bit later today
00:23 mtompset Then we could tweak 10825 to be dependent on 10823.
00:23 mtompset 10823 adding the styling, and 10825 preventing duplication.
00:24 mtj gotcha
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00:25 mtj thanks for looking at my bugs :)
00:38 mtompset Not a problem. Care to look at a couple of mine? ;)
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02:18 eythian wahanui: literal bye
02:18 wahanui eythian: sorry...
02:18 eythian wahanui: literal goodbye
02:18 wahanui eythian: what?
02:18 eythian wahanui: goodbye is <reply>\I hope the rest of your day is as pleasant as you are.
02:18 wahanui OK, eythian.
02:18 eythian wahanui: literal goodbye
02:18 wahanui eythian: goodbye =is= <reply>I hope the rest of wahanui's day is as pleasant as you are.
02:19 eythian no wahanui, goodbye is <reply>\I hope the rest of \your day is as pleasant as you are.
02:19 wahanui okay, eythian.
02:19 eythian wahanui: literal goodbye
02:19 wahanui eythian: goodbye =is= <reply>I hope the rest of your day is as pleasant as you are.
02:36 eythian wahanui: pony is <reply>
02:36 wahanui i already had it that way, eythian.
02:37 eythian oh
02:37 mtompset pony?!
02:37 mtompset Why would wahanui need to know about a pony?
02:38 eythian in case you find someone making unreasonable demands, you can tell them they can't have a pony either.
02:42 eythian Wow, just loading the staff client homepage sure causes a lot of sysprefs to be put into memcache.
02:43 eythian by which I mean, it requests those prefs, and they get put into memcache as part of that process.
02:44 mtompset wouldn't that happen at login time?
02:44 eythian No, I was already logged in.
02:45 mtompset So the main page refills memcache each time?
02:45 eythian It'll be loading the INIT/BEGIN blocks of many dependent modules.
02:45 eythian No, whenever you query a syspref, it sticks the value into memcache so it doesn't have to talk to the DB again.
02:46 eythian More than I expected are getting put into the cache from just loading the front page.
02:46 mtompset Well, it does increase the responsiveness of the other pages.
02:47 mtompset At least that's my theory. :)
02:47 eythian it's not deliberate, it's just what's happening.
02:47 eythian It will lower the responsiveness in general, but hopefully will speed it up with plack and memcache a little.
02:48 mtompset Ah... is it like those random bits of code that caused the robots to congregate in a corner in the box cars in iRobot? ;)
02:48 eythian ummm...maybe?
02:48 mtompset Koha is working towards Skynet conciousness! :P
02:54 eythian well, cache clearing appears to be working as I'd expect.
03:19 eythian Bug 11998 is ready for signoff if anyone wants something to do...
03:19 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11998 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Syspref caching issues
03:36 mtompset eythian: Did you add parameters to set_preference?
03:37 mtompset Couldn't you hashref'd them?
03:37 mtompset my ($self, $parameters) = @_;
03:38 eythian Well, there's two APIs (in a way) and I want to keep the simple one the same as it always was. The extra parameters are the old API with a few more things.
03:39 mtompset my ($self, $var, $value, $extra_hashref) = @_;;
03:39 eythian I don't like that much either, as now you're doing it two ways in one call.
03:40 mtompset I just don't like the explosion of parameters.
03:41 mtompset However, I share your dislike for a mixed solution.
03:41 eythian I don't like it in general. However, in 99% of cases, only one form needs to be used (i.e. the "var, value" one.)
03:41 eythian It's only when you're adding a local use preference that the longer form is used.
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03:44 mtompset BTW, I like the delete_systempreference addition.
03:44 eythian I felt that deleting them from the database directly in other files probably wasn't the best idea.
03:46 eythian <-- wizzyrea
03:46 mtompset Oh, and where are the .t files?
03:47 mtompset You added functions in a C4 or Koha library. You should have .t files to prove them.
03:47 eythian oh, I suppose I should have for the delete one. All the rest are covered by existing tests.
03:47 eythian (I think)
03:49 mtompset set_preference doesn't?
03:50 mtompset oh, wait t/db_dependent/sysprefs.t
03:50 eythian yeah
03:50 mtompset But you added parameters.
03:51 eythian Well, they can't go wrong, as they can't be fetched out by any functions anyway :)
03:51 mtompset Yes, but the sysprefs.t should at least make one call with the new parameters.
03:52 mtompset to prove that they work as expected.
03:53 mtompset oh, and the 30 second timeout... you could write a test to prove that.
03:54 eythian Not readily. a) I don't want to slow down running tests by 30 seconds, and b) if memcache is in the environment, the test will fail.
03:54 eythian Caching is a difficult thing to unit test.
03:56 mtompset a pox on memcache. :P
03:57 mtompset sadly, I don
03:57 mtompset t have memcache set up.
03:57 mtompset So, I can't test your code.
03:58 mtompset Oooo... K9 slippers. Nice!
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04:00 eythian whoops, I did just spot an issue in the delete_preference code.
04:04 mtompset Also... I have one last question while looking at the code.
04:04 mtompset C4::Context->set_preference($var, undef); in the last patch file.
04:04 eythian yeah
04:04 eythian that's the error
04:04 eythian it should be _cache_preference
04:04 mtompset AH...
04:04 mtompset That's what I was going to ask.
04:08 * cait waves
04:08 eythian hi cait
04:13 eythian mtompset: good thing you made me write a test case, it found a problem :)
04:14 mtompset I didn't *MAKE* you. I just reminded you of the requirements for things getting into Koha. :)
04:14 mtompset cait: Good day! :)
04:15 cait hi eythian, mtompset
04:19 mtompset Well, I should sleep.
04:19 eythian mtompset: there we go, fix and test case added
04:19 eythian (it also tests caching to some degree by going directly to the database.)
04:19 mtompset Enjoyed reading your code, eythian. Have a great day, #koha eythian cait.
04:19 eythian later
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05:15 dcook Hmm, anyone else having issues with[…]p=koha.git;a=tree ?
05:23 dcook Ok, not just me
05:23 dcook appears to be down
05:26 cait seems down to me too :(
05:26 dcook Poor gitweb
05:30 * cait looks at bug 6739
05:30 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6739 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , expired patrons not blocked from opac actions
05:30 cait over a 100 comments and patches from mutiple authors
05:31 cait dcook: git pull doens't work either
05:32 dcook That's crazy, cait
05:32 dcook I have difficulty following after 20-30 comments usually
05:32 cait a bit
05:33 cait but looks like i tested it before
05:33 cait comment 113
05:33 dcook Bug trackers should show things a bit more visually...
05:34 rangi its cos some eggs keep cloning
05:34 rangi and cloning
05:34 rangi using up all the ram
05:35 rangi its quite easy to DOS something by git cloning it to death
05:36 dcook rangi: I had a feeling that might be the case recently
05:36 rangi specially when people go 'this is too slow, ill ctrl-c and try again, oh and ill refresh the gitweb page too'
05:37 dcook Hmm, maybe next time I'll use my semi-out of date master instead of using the web ui :p
05:37 rangi you can always use one of the mirrors
05:38 rangi like
05:38 dcook Yeah, I ended up using Github in the end
05:38 rangi well not github, cos its full of sexist dicks and is proprietary :)
05:39 rangi but is usually ever only an hour or so behind
05:39 rangi
05:39 wahanui hmmm... is automatically up to date
05:41 dcook Sounds good to me
05:41 dcook Yeah, I don't think anyone can say they're too impressed with Github these days
05:41 dcook Well, ok, lots of people probably would, but they're probably also sexist
05:46 rangi dcook:[…]photos/kohacurses
05:47 dcook Cool, rangi :)
05:48 dcook I don't think Curses::UI has changed much from that time
05:48 cait cool :)
05:48 cait rangi: was it used?
05:48 dcook Ah, then again, 2008 according to
05:49 rangi yes
05:49 rangi until about 2002
05:49 rangi super fast
05:49 rangi still would be
05:49 cait cool
05:50 rangi i did one using TK too
05:50 rangi[…]kohaphotos/kohatk
05:50 rangi never used in production tho
05:51 dcook Neat!
05:51 * dcook wants to play around with GUIs at some point...
05:51 rangi this makes me sad
05:51 dcook I suppose I could use Tk and X forwarding but...
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05:51 dcook Oh?
05:51 rangi[…]p/kohaphotos/koha
05:52 dcook Mmm
05:52 dcook Silly rangi and his logic
05:53 dcook Wait, maybe I'm thinking of something different..
05:53 dcook The current names of the virtual shelves make more sense now ;)
05:53 rangi :)
05:53 dcook Err...or the old name..
05:54 dcook[…]aphotos/koha/acq4
05:54 rangi[…]aphotos/koha/acq3
05:54 dcook Yep
05:54 rangi groups, who needs them
05:54 dcook hehe
05:55 dcook It's not like we're organizing items or anything
05:55 rangi yeah, its not like someone would ever want to put a hold on all the large print copies of a biblio
05:55 dcook Or just the DVD version
05:56 rangi thats crazy talk
05:56 rangi it'll never catch on
05:56 rangi papa++ #new patches
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06:07 cait training a new koha library
06:07 cait wish me luck :)
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06:08 dcook @later tell cait Good luck!
06:08 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
06:09 rangi *sigh*
06:20 papa rangi: it's all mtompsett's fault, he's been harassing me
06:20 rangi heh
06:21 papa he has a secret agenda - wants me to add tests for everything in Koha that has no tests
06:21 rangi nice
06:21 * magnuse waves
06:22 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ster/HTML_Report/
06:22 rangi that was 30% sub coverage and less than %20 code only a few years ago
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06:39 reiveune hello
06:39 wahanui que tal, reiveune
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06:42 alex_a bonjour
06:43 * dcook wonders when it became 5:43pm..
06:43 * dcook waves to the French folk :)
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07:06 mtj rangi, i really enjoyed those curses and tk links before :)
07:07 mtj i just remembered Jesse's ajax circ stuff… from a while ago
07:08 dcook One good thing about Perl OOP infrastructure not being that good...
07:08 dcook Easy to hack an object :D
07:09 dcook Encapsulation, that's what I meant. Next to no encapsulation. Muahaha.
07:12 magnuse bug 11703 - just waitin' for some qa love...
07:12 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable
07:12 magnuse and hiya mtj!
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07:24 ashimema good morning all
07:24 magnuse hiya ashimema
07:24 ashimema so, after the backlight blew in my old dell.. i'm on the hunt for a new monitor..
07:25 ashimema anyone had any experiences with the super cheap korean imports?
07:25 ashimema seems 'to good to be true'.. but reviews are generally favourable it seems
07:27 dcook Ooo mouse support in Curses::UI...noice
07:28 dcook Alas, no idea for the UK, ashimema.
07:28 dcook I've had good experience with but I think they're just Oz and the US?
07:31 dcook Whoa. 6:30pm?
07:31 * dcook frowns
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08:15 atheia G'morning all!
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08:20 ashimema Cheers dcook.
08:36 magnuse hiya atheia
08:58 mtj evening all
08:58 magnuse wassup mtj!
08:58 mtj hey magnuse :p
08:59 mtj ashimema, what monitor brands are you considering over there..?
08:59 ashimema I've only just started looking..
09:00 mtj ah ok :)
09:01 ashimema I'm not on an especially big budget though.. so it rules out the likes of Dell in favour of Hazro and AOC.. or from korea the likes of Crossover or Achieva Shimian
09:01 ashimema would love to be able to go high spec like Ilyama and Dell or Viewsonic.. but need must ;)
09:02 ashimema wondered if anyone had any experience with the latter two above.. lots on ebay for remarkably low prices..
09:02 mtj AOC ive heard good things, but not heard of the last 2
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09:11 mtj magnuse, thanks for the ajax-circ url… i had not seen khall's patch before :)
09:14 magnuse mtj: my pleasure!
09:15 ashimema Yeah, Crossover and Achieva Shimian are 'dodgy' south korean imports.. they use mostly the same panels internally as all the big boys but the ut costs by limiting down the number of connectivity options... but to be honest.. who uses more than one or two anyways ;)
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09:27 Joubu magnuse: bug 11703 is waiting for an answer, I started QA on it :)
09:27 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable
09:27 paxed can i do a search for a call number starting with 03?
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09:31 magnuse Joubu: awesome!
09:31 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, magnuse
09:31 magnuse gah!
09:32 magnuse @seen khall
09:32 huginn magnuse: khall was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 6 days, 18 hours, 49 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <khall> also, I like the icon
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09:36 ashimema he probably hasn't slept muhc in that time either ;)
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09:37 vfernandes hi :)
09:38 vfernandes which is the correct terminology: koha 3.8 or koha 3.08?
09:39 vfernandes anyone?
09:39 wahanui Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
10:01 mtj vfernandes, 3.8 - i think...
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12:19 NateC morning everyone :)
12:20 francharb morning
12:24 magnuse kia ora NateC and francharb
12:24 francharb o/ magnuse
12:25 NateC hiya magnuse!
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12:34 ashimema @seen pianohacker
12:34 huginn ashimema: pianohacker was last seen in #koha 1 day, 21 hours, 15 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <pianohacker> woot woot timezones
12:36 ashimema @later tell pianohacker give us a shout when you on mate.. wanna pick your brains about shib.
12:36 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded.
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12:48 ashimema it's quiet in here.. something tells me it's the lack of cait ;)
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13:25 rhcl @wunder 64507
13:26 huginn rhcl: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is -1.1°C (8:20 AM CDT on April 01, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Rising).
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13:34 magnuse @wunder boo
13:34 ashimema anyone here know what can cause this error: Template process failed: file error - cssinclude: not found at /home2/blds/kohaclone/C4/ line 132.
13:34 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (3:20 PM CEST on April 01, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
13:34 ashimema it's with bootstrap theme turned on.. in 3.14.5
13:35 ashimema and 3.14.4 for that matter.
13:35 magnuse it's looking for a file called cssinclude?
13:35 ashimema yeah.. but where is that coming from
13:35 magnuse dunno :-)
13:39 jcamins ashimema: you need to update the templates?
13:42 ashimema hmm.
13:42 ashimema it's a clean install..
13:42 ashimema well.. clean install with an old db.. for upgrade..
13:43 ashimema turn on bootstrap and it complains.
13:45 jcamins ashimema: and you're using plain en?
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13:47 ashimema that's a nasty one..
13:47 ashimema The db I had imported was set to use en-GB
13:48 ashimema but en-GB hadn't been installed on the system yet.
13:48 ashimema I presumed it would default back to normal en.. (like prog and ccsr both do).. rather than screw up
13:48 ashimema hey, jcamins.. you about for a few mins..
13:49 ashimema I've still not gotten to the bottom of that queryparser problem and was hoping you may be able to drop some more hints some time..
13:50 jcamins It should fall back to en... but I'm glad I got it right!
13:52 ashimema ;)
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13:59 jenkins_koha Starting build #1676 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11786: Improve RDFa structured data mappings <[…]3a8ff89aba71f6acc>
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14:11 jenkins_koha Starting build #403 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
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15:08 reiveune bye
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15:14 * oleonard waves
15:16 oleonard cait: What's the circulation conditions table?
15:23 * oleonard did not expect there to be no cait
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15:34 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #403: SUCCESS in 1 hr 24 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/403/
15:34 jenkins_koha Dan Scott: Bug 11786: Improve RDFa structured data mappings
15:34 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11786 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dan, Pushed to Master , Improve RDFa mappings in prog and bootstrap
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15:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1676: UNSTABLE in 2 hr 1 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1676/
15:58 jenkins_koha Dan Scott: Bug 11786: Improve RDFa structured data mappings
15:58 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11786 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dan, Pushed to Master , Improve RDFa mappings in prog and bootstrap
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16:03 dbs huh. http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]atch_plan___146_/ ?
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16:10 * dbs feels a bit crazy but t/db_dependent/XISBN.t only appears to contain 4 tests, despite the test plan of 5, and he isn't sure how his XSL changes could be related
16:10 dbs oh wait, use_ok is #5 (#1). umm.
16:12 dbs So, xISBN likely just timed out or failed on the server side, and the test failure is not actually related to my commit (?)
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16:20 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
16:22 mtompset still says March.
16:38 mtompset enhancement vs. new feature?
16:38 mtompset When did that happen?
16:38 oleonard A while ago
16:39 mtompset Greetings, oleonard. :)
16:43 mtompset I'm off to do thank you letters and such.
16:43 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
16:50 nengard oleonard question about hiding the border around .main in bootstrap - i tried border: 0px; and border: none; but it still shows ... what am I missing?
16:51 nengard in fact it seems that all of my css in opacusercss is being ignored ....
16:54 oleonard Well nengard I know opacusercss works in bootstrap, so perhaps your first step is understanding why it's not for you.
16:55 nengard well it has worked for me on ohter sites
16:55 nengard so maybe it's why it's not working on 2 of the sites I'm trying :)
16:55 nengard
16:55 nengard a few things are working
16:55 nengard like the white background and white log in font
16:58 oleonard .main has two styles to check: border and box-shadow
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17:25 pianohacker hi
17:25 wahanui hey, pianohacker
17:26 nengard sorry oleonard - had a phone call
17:26 nengard i'm back now
17:26 nengard off to check
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18:56 oleonard Hi cait
18:56 cait hi oleonard :)
18:57 pianohacker hi pianohacker
18:58 oleonard cait: What's the circulation conditions table?
18:59 cait oh
18:59 cait sorry
18:59 cait where did i write that?
18:59 cait or do you mean in the database?
18:59 cait issuingrules?
18:59 oleonard cait: You @later'ed me about adding datatables to it
18:59 cait aaah sorry for not being clear
19:00 cait we call it ausleihkonditionen in german... i guess i was not fully awake
19:00 cait i was thinking that it owuld be nice to have an option to sort the circulation condtions - because then you could check your settings for a patron type but also for an itemtype
19:01 cait now looking up all rules for an itemtype can be a bit hard
19:01 cait i think we would need a sort option for 'in the order they apply' which might be the hard bit... (I am more awake now then this morning...)
19:02 pianohacker cait: do they display that way on initial page load, or am I making that up?
19:02 cait i think they do
19:03 * magnuse waves
19:03 pianohacker hi magnuse
19:04 druthb magnuse!
19:04 wahanui magnuse is, like, afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza
19:04 magnuse hiya pianohacker
19:04 magnuse druthb!
19:04 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
19:05 * druthb snaps
19:05 magnuse oh noes!
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19:44 cait1 @wunder konstanz
19:44 huginn cait1: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.8°C (9:40 PM CEST on April 01, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
19:44 cait1 @wunder bochum
19:44 huginn cait1: The current temperature in Bochum Weitmar, Bochum, Germany is 16.9°C (9:38 PM CEST on April 01, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
19:47 oleonard @wunder 45701
19:47 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is 24.0°C (3:35 PM EDT on April 01, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 18%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
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19:47 bag magnuse: HI
19:47 wahanui hello, bag
19:48 oleonard Summer-like out there today
19:48 magnuse bag: HI
19:48 magnuse @wunder boo
19:48 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (9:20 PM CEST on April 01, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
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19:48 bag @wunder 93102
19:48 huginn bag: The current temperature in Westside (Gillespie), Santa Barbara, California is 15.8°C (12:48 PM PDT on April 01, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
20:04 cait1 warm here too- hey fever is annoying
20:07 pianohacker cait1: hey fever? Can't stop saying "hey, listen"?
20:07 cait1 hay...
20:08 jcamins pianohacker: don't make it bad.
20:08 pianohacker hehehe
20:08 pianohacker cait++
20:09 jcamins Look at that! A pop culture reference from me that *wasn't* to a Broadway musical.
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20:12 cait1 pianohacker: where is my follow up? :P
20:12 oleonard Bye #koha
20:13 pianohacker oh! 10486! Coming, coming
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20:43 nengard @later tell oleonard my css issue was with a comment - i used // instead of /*  !!!
20:43 huginn nengard: The operation succeeded.
20:43 cait1 good night all
20:52 * wajasu starting to play with NYTprof for to gather stats prior to adding zebra-based facets search
21:16 rangi morning
21:19 pianohacker yo rangi
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21:31 bag cait1
21:31 bag bummer
21:31 bag heya pianohacker or rangi
21:32 pianohacker yo
21:32 bag maybe one of you two can help me out
21:32 bag usually I get cait to help me
21:32 bag so on a patch I've got a name in there that has an ü in it and I can't get the git-bz attach to go through
21:33 pianohacker bag: are you using -e ?
21:33 bag yes
21:33 bag so don't edit
21:33 bag and just do my changes in bugzilla
21:33 bag that sounds familar
21:33 bag thanks
21:34 pianohacker yeah, irritating bug, but the -e functionality is a little broken in general.
21:34 pianohacker so useful though...
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21:57 eythian hi
21:57 pianohacker yo robin
21:58 rangi
22:00 bag heya eythian
22:00 wahanui eythian is great at jokes. That everyone else misses them isn't his problem.
22:01 bag and rangi that's not a april fools joke
22:01 pianohacker <-- I'm sure this will last
22:03 rangi yeah
22:03 rangi what is interesting to me
22:03 rangi is this
22:04 rangi[…]rary-systems.html
22:04 rangi By the end of 2013, there were over 400 installations of Polaris serving 1,225 libraries representing a total of 2,811 branches.  Innovative reports over 1,300 libraries using Millennium and 336 using Sierra.
22:04 rangi so yeah, even with the merge, there are still way more Koha libraries
22:04 rangi and that story never gets told
22:05 rangi we are thinking to do something to tell that story, some kinda infographic
22:06 liw rangi, if you do, ping me, I can blog to point at it (not that it does a lot of good, but...)
22:06 liw rangi, also, LWN might be willing to do another Koha story this decade?
22:07 rangi oh true, good points liw thanks
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22:36 pianohacker screw it, I'm just going to spam this link:[…]e-full-of-awesome
22:37 rangi heh its not like it needs more backers :)
22:38 cjh pianohacker: very cool
22:38 pianohacker yeah, I know, I just think it's super cool
22:38 pianohacker oh hi cjh :)
22:39 cjh little concerned about how far the hands have to reach to hit the keys
22:40 pianohacker yeah, I'd want it more for gaming/cad work than programming
22:41 cjh for me resting the palm while stretching like that is a huge trigger for rsi/oos, it is an interesting product.
22:42 pianohacker cjh: ah, kk. What is your daily keyboard, out of curiosity?
22:42 cjh kinesis advantage, but i can't use the palm rests while typing.
22:43 pianohacker ah, right
22:44 cjh pianohacker: is your ergodox in daily usage ?
22:45 pianohacker cjh: yup! Quite liking it so far, fingers are slowly getting used to it. Plus, now that I have NKRO, I'm learning plover
22:45 pianohacker awesome device
22:46 bag @pianohacker++
22:46 huginn bag: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
22:46 bag just freaking cool man
22:46 bag pianohacker++
22:46 bag heh
22:46 pianohacker bag: We need to fix bwsbot. And thanks!
23:05 bag hey eythian for the sources.list on packages - is it only for squeeze or is there a wheezy yet?
23:05 eythian the squeeze one works fine on wheezy.
23:05 bag thanks much
23:05 bag eythian++
23:05 eythian I've been meaning to make one called wheezy that is just symlinked to the squeeze one.
23:06 bag HA
23:06 bag I guess so
23:06 eythian that means that if they ever need different builds, that can be done too.
23:07 bag I guess it would be a good time to start that - no difference really though
23:08 eythian yeah, I'd try hard to make the same one work on all platforms, it'd save a lot of hassle. But there's no guarantee that it'll be possible in the future.
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23:08 bag yeah
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23:25 pianohacker bye
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