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| 01:08 |
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dcook |
Hmm... I have a Koha on a remote server but I want to play with its metadata... |
| 01:08 |
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dcook |
I think this might be a job for Koha RESTFUL API |
| 01:10 |
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| 01:10 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
| 01:10 |
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wajasu |
hi |
| 01:10 |
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wahanui |
hey, wajasu |
| 01:10 |
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wajasu |
i fall for that every time. |
| 01:11 |
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dbs |
rangi: hey, I've been talking about koha's # of systems (minimum estimate) for a while now! |
| 01:12 |
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dbs |
(Estimate being a minimum of 2,500 libraries, via the breeding thing; couldn't find better official stats when I went through the koha-community web site / wiki) |
| 01:14 |
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dcook |
dbs: If the Breeding thing says a minimum of 2,500, I can only imagine the actual number |
| 01:15 |
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dcook |
We have about 100 libraries alone, iirc, and we're a rather small org |
| 01:20 |
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dbs |
dcook: right. Which is why I say "minimum estimate". |
| 01:21 |
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dbs |
If you want to publicize a larger number, you need to make it easy for authors to find so they can publicize it. |
| 01:22 |
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dcook |
dbs: Totally. I wasn't criticizing. Just stating my awe of the unknown ;). |
| 01:24 |
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mtj |
hey mtompset, which bugs did you want me to take a look at, yesterday? |
| 01:24 |
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mtompset |
bug 10823 and bug 10825 |
| 01:24 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10823 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , add class info to enumchron data in detail.tt, for better styling |
| 01:24 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10825 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , detail.tt displays duplicated enumchron values for serial items |
| 01:24 |
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mtj |
also, attn: perl n3rdz, -> http://www.infoq.com/interviews/conway-perl |
| 01:25 |
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mtompset |
basically, I believe 10823 just needs your sign off, and my sign off, and then QA can take it. |
| 01:25 |
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mtompset |
Then 10825 needs to be dependent on 10823. |
| 01:25 |
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mtj |
mtompset, no no .. which of *your* bugs :) |
| 01:25 |
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mtompset |
Oh... let me check again. |
| 01:26 |
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mtompset |
bug 11797 |
| 01:26 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11797 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , auth_finder.pl: Odd number of elements in anonymous hash |
| 01:26 |
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mtj |
the above DC interview is pretty grate ^^ |
| 01:26 |
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mtompset |
bug 11253 |
| 01:26 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11253 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , tools/inventory.pl output_pref ignores 'iso' parameter passed |
| 01:27 |
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mtj |
ok |
| 01:27 |
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dbs |
dcook: no worries, quantifying open source project installs that don't include a phone-home mechanism is known hard territory :) |
| 01:29 |
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eythian |
https://www.humblebundle.com/ <-- type:rider is the sort of game that would appeal to people here. |
| 01:36 |
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mtj |
have any keyboard nerds have a go at -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[…]mplified_Keyboard ? |
| 01:38 |
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mtj |
i've always been curious, but never got round to it |
| 01:38 |
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eythian |
Yeah, I used to use it. |
| 01:38 |
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eythian |
It was fine, though a bit tricky with vim. |
| 01:40 |
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* dcook |
is rather pleased with his typing abilities with a qwerty keyboard. He would love to know what it would be like to use a...more efficient keyboard (with adequate experience/skill/knowledge, of course) |
| 01:41 |
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mtj |
i guess any new keyboard style requires lots of time investment, before it starts to pay off |
| 01:42 |
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dcook |
Or you could just learn Matrix style |
| 01:42 |
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dcook |
That would be convenient] |
| 01:42 |
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mtj |
eythian, the type:rider game looks very classy |
| 01:43 |
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eythian |
The learning phase sucks. |
| 01:43 |
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eythian |
(of the keyboard, not the game.) |
| 01:43 |
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eythian |
(the game is pretty straightforward.) |
| 01:44 |
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eythian |
I think the game would work better on a tablet than a phone though. |
| 02:06 |
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| 03:00 |
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eythian |
how disappointing, you can't have a mandatory yet hidden field in a framework. |
| 03:02 |
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dcook |
Hmm, that is disappointing |
| 03:10 |
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dcook |
You know what isn't disappointing? |
| 03:10 |
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dcook |
Listening to the discography of a band you love and finding songs that you didn't know existed before |
| 03:12 |
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eythian |
heh |
| 03:12 |
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eythian |
that's always good |
| 03:28 |
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dcook |
dpavlin++ |
| 03:28 |
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dcook |
For documenting the HTTP API and creating that sample client |
| 03:33 |
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dcook |
I'm really looking forward to upgrading from 3.8... |
| 03:34 |
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dcook |
Using the bib and report services, a person could actually get some good stuff done |
| 03:50 |
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* magnuse |
waves, then wanders off to catch a plane |
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| 04:05 |
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mtj |
dcook, i'm really looking fwd to trying out some of that new stuff too :) |
| 04:05 |
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dcook |
\o |
| 04:05 |
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dcook |
Ack |
| 04:05 |
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dcook |
\o/ |
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| 04:23 |
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eythian |
bug 12023 is an easy one for someone. |
| 04:23 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12023 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Web installer fails under plack |
| 04:31 |
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* cait |
waves |
| 04:42 |
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mtompset |
eythian: Why C4? |
| 04:42 |
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mtompset |
Why not Koha? |
| 04:42 |
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eythian |
mtompset: I didn't actually think of that. |
| 04:43 |
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eythian |
But, it is old-style code that references a lot of C4 things, so it might be best in C4. |
| 04:43 |
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mtompset |
Okay. Just was thinking out loud. :) |
| 04:43 |
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eythian |
It doesn't matter too much either way. I'll see what others say. |
| 04:43 |
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mtompset |
I don't have plak installed. |
| 04:43 |
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mtompset |
set up or whatever. |
| 04:43 |
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eythian |
Anyway, I'm feeling a little hazy after a flu shot, so I'm going home. |
| 04:44 |
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mtompset |
Is there a wiki page somewhere? |
| 04:44 |
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eythian |
for what? |
| 04:44 |
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mtompset |
plack? |
| 04:44 |
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wahanui |
Plack is a FastCGI thingy that works with Koha. See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack for more information. |
| 04:44 |
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eythian |
there |
| 04:44 |
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mtompset |
Yes, yes there is. |
| 04:54 |
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cait |
bag++ |
| 04:55 |
|
cait |
get better eythian |
| 05:08 |
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mtompset |
Can someone clarify what /srv/koha is supposed to be in the plack instructions? |
| 05:18 |
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| 05:20 |
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cait |
? |
| 05:20 |
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mtompset |
The plack instructions were clearly written by programmers. :P |
| 05:21 |
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mtompset |
I think I figured out that problem, and have moved onto the next one. :) |
| 05:21 |
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mtompset |
I was hoping it would be explicit about where the psgi file goes. |
| 05:22 |
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mtompset |
I think I'll give up and go to bed. |
| 05:23 |
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mtompset |
Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha cait |
| 05:23 |
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wajasu |
mtompset: don't worry about 11909. i am seeing if i can write facets in 11232. |
| 05:24 |
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mtompset |
okay, wajasu. |
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reiveune |
hello |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
| 07:12 |
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wahanui |
kai ora, alex_a |
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tarsem |
hello |
| 07:28 |
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wahanui |
que tal, tarsem |
| 07:28 |
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tarsem |
i need hepl about zebra rebuld |
| 07:29 |
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tarsem |
how to rebuild zebra |
| 07:29 |
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tarsem |
plz tell me |
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grharry |
Hi, is there a way to stage a file of marc records from the server command line ... instead of downloading it to the PC and then upload it again via the staff web interface ???? |
| 13:05 |
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jcamins |
grharry: yes, look for stage_file (or something like that) in misc. |
| 13:07 |
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grharry |
jcamins: thanks !!! |
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rhcl |
@wunder 64507 |
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huginn |
rhcl: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is 4.7°C (8:50 AM CDT on April 02, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:59 |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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| 14:07 |
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mjkerpan |
hello koha fans |
| 14:08 |
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mjkerpan |
quick question: is there a way to allow self-checkout/checkin users the choice of using either a card or a username/password or can the system only handle one method at a time |
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oleonard |
both seem to work when I try it mjkerpan |
| 14:09 |
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francharb |
morning! |
| 14:09 |
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wahanui |
morning is a state of cat |
| 14:10 |
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francharb |
whatever it means, good to know |
| 14:10 |
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mjkerpan |
oleonard: so the users have an option? good |
| 14:12 |
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oleonard |
Tested in master mjkerpan |
| 14:12 |
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mjkerpan |
my club library is getting ready to deploy koha for the checkout of video materials and there's been debate about how to access the system |
| 14:13 |
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mjkerpan |
i can't test at the moment as koha is intranet-only at our clubhouse. |
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dustin |
hello |
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dustin |
Can someone help me with my koha installation on debian? im having one problem. |
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oleonard |
paxed around? |
| 14:27 |
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paxed |
yes? |
| 14:27 |
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oleonard |
Please classify Bug 12024 as a bug (rather than an enhancement), assign to yourself, and set to "needs signoff" if it is ready for testing. |
| 14:27 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12024 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add to list opens the list adding UI in two windows |
| 14:30 |
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paxed |
done |
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oleonard |
Thanks! |
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reiveune |
bye |
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oleonard |
jcamins around? |
| 15:42 |
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jcamins |
-ish. |
| 15:42 |
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oleonard |
I'm trying to understand what is going on in browser.js with regard to Bug 11817 |
| 15:42 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11817 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Staff client next/previous browse JavaScript interferes with other JS functions |
| 15:43 |
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oleonard |
Especially lines 79-82 |
| 15:43 |
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oleonard |
That selector is too broad, but I'm not sure exactly what it was intended to target |
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jcamins |
79-82 of what? |
| 15:44 |
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oleonard |
intranet-tmpl/browser.js |
| 15:44 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
| 15:44 |
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jcamins |
The goal is to catch all the detail viws. |
| 15:44 |
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jcamins |
*views |
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jcamins |
And addbiblio. |
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oleonard |
So normal, MARC, ISBD, etc? |
| 15:45 |
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jcamins |
And the item detail. |
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jcamins |
Yeah. |
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* magnuse |
waves from oslo |
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* druthb |
waves back. |
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oleonard |
rdio.com |
| 16:53 |
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wajasu |
looks like when i retreive facet results,for an author, there is an entry with the authority number as well. this can be helpful for building my links when UseAuthoritiesForTracings is on |
| 17:13 |
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wajasu |
okay. got facet results in search. got to parse em. XML::Simple? or regex? or what? any suggestions? |
| 17:25 |
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pastebot |
"wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "zebra facets strategy needed" (85 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/203 |
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barton |
@seen Ashimema |
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huginn |
barton: Ashimema was last seen in #koha 1 day, 3 hours, 37 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <ashimema> ;) |
| 17:32 |
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barton |
@later tell ashimema I made some minor updates to your zebra wiki page: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]/zebra#Background |
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huginn |
barton: The operation succeeded. |
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jcamins |
@later tell ashimena pqf.properties has nothing to do with QueryParser. |
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huginn |
jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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wajasu |
just read "Supplementary Note: QueryParser uses pqf.properties for indexes" in that zebra wiki page above |
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barton |
how do I run overdue_notices.pl by hand on a package site? |
| 18:22 |
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wajasu |
as the correct koha user, or such, you must set KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB correclty and use /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl, I would expect. |
| 18:22 |
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wajasu |
but don't quote me on that. |
| 18:23 |
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wajasu |
:) |
| 18:23 |
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cait-m__ |
using the koha shell |
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wajasu |
ahh. |
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cait-m__ |
would set the env variables etc i think |
| 18:24 |
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wajasu |
it does. |
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* cait-m__ |
is on a train, again |
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wajasu |
man koha-shell explains |
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dbs |
@later tell nengard thanks for the article referral |
| 18:28 |
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huginn |
dbs: The operation succeeded. |
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magnuse |
koha-shell++ |
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barton |
wow. That's definitely powerful... |
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* cait |
waves |
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* JesseM |
waves back |
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cait |
hi JesseM :) |
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JesseM |
hi cait |
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magnuse |
hiya cait and JesseM |
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JesseM |
hiya magnuse hows it going? |
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magnuse |
trying to put the finishing touches on my ebook thingy |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 13.4°C (9:35 PM CEST on April 02, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
there is always one last little thing... |
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magnuse |
well, finishing as in "having a minimum viable product" |
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JesseM |
that is very true. always one last thing |
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mjkerpan |
Hello, all. |
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magnuse |
JesseM: and yerself? |
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mjkerpan |
Is it possible to allow for both barcode-based and username-based self checkout at the same time? |
| 19:43 |
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mjkerpan |
This morning someone said it was, but I can't find any option that would allow it. |
| 19:43 |
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JesseM |
All is well. The family is out of the house and it is sooo quite here. :D |
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mjkerpan |
hmm. |
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mjkerpan |
i'm in a building with practically no insulatioon, so the traffic noise makes it loud. |
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JesseM |
oh not good mjkerpan |
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magnuse |
JesseM: lovely :-) |
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* magnuse |
is in a nice and quiet hotelroom |
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mjkerpan |
it's just a clubhouse |
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mjkerpan |
the 15000 volume library keeps it warmer than it would be at least |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
web based self chckout? |
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cait |
or sip2 based self checkout? |
| 19:50 |
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cait |
koha's opac allows for username + password and cardnumber + password by default,so there is no switch for it. sip2 only works with cardnumber afaik |
| 19:52 |
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* cait |
is on a train... |
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cait |
did my answer to the login question come through? |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
| 19:58 |
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cait |
ok |
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wajasu |
if i get two facet results from zebra for lets say <term coccur="4" occur="4">Tozer, A. W.</term><term coccur="4" occur="4">Tozer, A. W. (Aiden Wilson), 1897-1963. 11849</term> |
| 20:00 |
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wajasu |
should i consolidate them? |
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wajasu |
that 11849 is the authority number. should i use that when building links if UseAuthorityForTracings is on? |
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mjkerpan |
sorry i was away |
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mjkerpan |
web-based |
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mjkerpan |
are you still there |
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mjkerpan |
sorry |
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jcamins |
mjkerpan: why don't you tell us what the problem actually is, so that someone can help you with it, if they know how to solve it. |
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jcamins |
(not me, I'm leaving now, but someone might know the answer to whatever problem has you asking about this again) |
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* wajasu |
thinks he needs the dewey decimal number relating to heating/thermostat operation |
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mjkerpan |
Basically, my organization is getting ready to start using Koha for item checkin/checkout and some members want to use a username/password and others want to use cards with barcodes |
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mjkerpan |
I want to know if both can be kept happy. |
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mjkerpan |
Currently, the options for we-based checkout allow me to present either a page that asks for a barcode number OR a page that asks for login/password |
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mjkerpan |
I want to know if I can (easily) present a page that has both |
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rangi |
morning |
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rangi |
you'd have to do some dev, to get it to do that |
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mjkerpan |
ah |
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rangi |
not a lot, but you would have to change the template page, that presents that |
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mjkerpan |
that's the answer i'll give to the club then: if there's a perl wizrd who wants to make it so then it can happen, otherwise, you have to choose. |
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rangi |
template toolkit mostly |
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rangi |
not actual perl but yep |
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wajasu |
if i code support for zebra facets, should i leave it so the current implementaiton is used as a fallback when indexes are not configured? |
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cait1 |
wajasu: wouldn't we need the old config for grs1 using libraries anyway? |
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wajasu |
i am going to see if i can get grs1 working as well, but not sure. we'll see. i've just got the response coming back now for DOM and am parsing for the UI. |
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* wajasu |
just working on "Authors" now |
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ashimema |
@later tell barton Cheers for the updates.. feel free to move my scribblings into a more useful part of the wiki if their useful.. |
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huginn |
ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
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* cait1 |
waves at ashimema |
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ashimema |
jcamins.. your later didn't work.. |
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ashimema |
hmm. that note was added at smoeone in here's request.. |
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ashimema |
mha.. random scribblings.. |
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ashimema |
High cait1 |
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ashimema |
hi.. |
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jcamins |
ashimema: Fortunately you got it anyway. ;) |
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barton |
ashimema -- I may move that stuff into the wiki proper at some point. I'm still trying to get some of that stuff straight in my head. |
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barton |
zebra indexing is one of those things that I want to understand *before* I go messing with it :-) |
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ashimema |
certainly.. |
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ashimema |
indeed jcamins.. |
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wahanui |
indeed jcamins is not. |
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ashimema |
so.. what does QueryParser use then?... I thought it relied uopn a different indexing style/query language.. |
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ashimema |
hmm. bedtime me thinks. |
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ashimema |
nighty night peeps |
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* cait1 |
is still on a train... |
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cait1 |
night ashimema_afk |
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ashimema_afk |
poor cait... it's been quiet here without you |
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cait1 |
aaw :) |
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cait1 |
will be back tomorrow :) |
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cait1 |
tired... but here |
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cait1 |
:) |
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cait1 |
and now i am running out of battery... bbl :) |
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jcamins |
@later tell ashimena QueryParser uses the QueryParser configuration file. It is orthogonal to Zebra. |
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huginn |
jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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magnuse |
kia ora Irma |
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eythian |
hi |
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magnuse |
hiya eythian |
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magnuse |
upgrade done, time to catch some sleep! |
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magnuse |
have fun #koha! |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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rhcl |
HI mtompset |
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mtompset |
Greetings, rhcl. :) |
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mtompset |
Is anyone around who is familiar with setting up plack? |
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eythian |
mtompset: start with this perhaps: http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha-plack.git |
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mtompset |
instead of the default kohaclone? |
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eythian |
it's not part of koha, it's tools to do things with it. |
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eythian |
it's a separate checkout. |
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mtompset |
a separate branch or a separate clone location? |
| 23:16 |
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mtompset |
BTW, who controls the titles on the dashboard? It still says March, even though it did clear the March totals and has started counting April. |
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dcook |
mtompset: If you looked at the source, you would see that it is a separate git repo all together |
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dcook |
Hence a separate clone location |
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dcook |
Random quote from the dashboard: 'oleonard: bridget jones + vampires, the only remaining mashup left.' |
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dcook |
Love it |
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* mtompset |
sighs, "Programmer documentation. That is, the bar is too high to participate without learning time." |
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