IRC log for #koha, 2014-04-03

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00:46 mtompset paxed: You here?
00:47 mtompset @see paxed
00:47 huginn mtompset: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
00:47 mtompset @seen paxed
00:47 huginn mtompset: paxed was last seen in #koha 10 hours, 16 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <paxed> done
00:48 mtompset @later tell paxed Could you review my followup tweak and reply on bug 11885? I'm doing a Failed QA rescue. :)
00:48 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
00:49 mtompset @later tell Joubu I believe my patch and explanation on bug 11885 should explain what you were asking about.
00:49 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
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02:58 wizzyrea ...tinymce keeps messing up the links in news.
02:58 wizzyrea that's annoying.
03:03 eythian yeah, I've noticed that.
03:03 eythian We need to fix it.
03:04 wizzyrea yeah we do it's really irritating.
03:04 wizzyrea might be a bug with tinymce though
03:05 eythian It might be. I'm not sure where it comes from,.
03:05 wizzyrea it's weird, because sometimes it saves correctly, but then when you load it again, it screws it up
03:05 wizzyrea at least, I've just observed that.
03:09 wizzyrea could be like this
03:09 * wizzyrea tries it
03:09 wizzyrea it's trying to do something smart I think. And being dumb in the process.
03:12 dcook ^
03:12 dcook I hate when that happens
03:13 dcook On the plus side, I think I figured out a Koha purchase order printing problem which has probably already been solved in newer versions of Koha :)
03:13 dcook Well one of two problems...
03:13 dcook Not really a Koha problem so much as a PDF::API2 misconfiguration/problem
03:13 mtompset links in news?
03:14 mtompset how, wizzyrea?
03:15 mtompset how eythian?
03:16 eythian it rewrites them in annoying and wrong (for our purpose) ways, IIRC.
03:16 dcook Hmm, nope. Not fixed in master...
03:16 wizzyrea ^^
03:17 mtj heya folks
03:17 wizzyrea < heh, it's the first one.
03:18 eythian seemingly no option to just turn it all off.
03:18 mtj oh nice, did that fix your bug wiz?
03:18 wizzyrea which one
03:18 wahanui which one is probably that? The fixed navbar?
03:18 wizzyrea :P
03:18 wizzyrea the tinymce one?
03:18 wizzyrea idk yet
03:18 wizzyrea i'm about to find out :P
03:19 wizzyrea for one, we have no base url defined, probably an issue.
03:19 wizzyrea but I don't really want one...
03:20 eythian yeah, we can't do that really.
03:20 dcook Can't? ...or won't?
03:20 eythian can't
03:20 * dcook has been watching too much Scrubs recently...
03:20 eythian oh :)
03:20 * dcook should've added *said with Janitor voice* to that last bit ;)
03:21 wizzyrea OOooooo I fixed it!
03:21 dcook wizzyrea++
03:21 * wizzyrea makes a patch
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03:26 mtj i did just notice the version of tinymce in koha-master is a few years old
03:26 mtj 3.5.8, circa 2012-11-20
03:26 eythian Packages use the Debian one, I think.
03:26 mtj ah,  thats not really so old.. :)
03:27 mtj ah yep, i forgot that
03:27 mtj anyhoo, even the older tinymce's probably does everything koha needs
03:28 mtj s/'// :)
03:28 eythian it's good to keep it reasonably current though. An update every release or two might not be a bad idea.
03:28 eythian drop it in at the start of a development cycle, perhaps.
03:29 mtj yeah, sounds good to me
03:30 wizzyrea I worry about this particular problem in tinymce 4, it doesn't seem to allow disabling entirely like I've just done with 3
03:30 wizzyrea but I didn't look *that* closely
03:31 eythian we might be able to provide a bogus base URL that causes it to never kick in, maybe.
03:31 eythian I dunno.
03:31 wizzyrea yeah it would require more time than I have at the moment
03:31 eythian javascript is a fungible language, we could monkey patch it.
03:31 eythian another time though.
03:32 wizzyrea ^ this sentence is awesome.
03:33 eythian "Duck punching" is an alternative term.
03:39 wizzyrea ...I was not expecting that
03:40 wizzyrea i am glad I didn't have a drink. It must be a globally funny day today
03:40 wizzyrea that or words are especially amusing to me today.
03:40 * dcook does a little dance
03:41 dcook Figured out all the problems with purchase order printing
03:41 dcook Sure, I had to go into PDF::API2's source code to figure out it was doing, but yay!
03:41 dcook wizzyrea: Funny and productive day!
03:42 wizzyrea wait wait
03:42 wahanui wait wait is probably there a new git bz/
03:42 wizzyrea what was the problem you were solving?
03:42 wizzyrea did it have to do with special characters in pdfs?
03:42 dcook Nopes
03:42 wizzyrea oh phew.
03:43 dcook Tables overlapping the footer and...table overflow starting at inopportune places on the new page
03:43 dcook And it's all due to poor config on our part
03:43 dcook Although the documentation is non-existent for the footer bit...
03:43 dcook Of course "start_y" - "start_h" = "bottom margin"
03:44 dcook Oh well. In the end, I'm glad that it's solved and that it's open source, so I could figure it out.
03:44 dcook Banana time!
03:44 wizzyrea @quote add <dcook> I'm glad that it's solved and that it's open source, so I could figure it out.
03:44 huginn wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
03:44 wizzyrea curse you.
03:44 wizzyrea @quote add <dcook> I'm glad that it's solved and that it's open source, so I could figure it out.
03:44 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #304 added.
03:45 wizzyrea take that.
03:47 dcook \o/
03:47 dcook I probably should've had a comma before "and". Oh well :p
03:47 dcook O_O
03:47 dcook I just had a dark chocolate tim tam and now I'm eating a banana, and it's magical.
03:48 dcook Lingering chocolate taste...fused with banana...there is a name for this...
03:48 dcook Banana boat? I want to say it's something you do when camping.
03:48 dcook Campfire banana split?
03:48 * dcook needs some marshmallows...
03:48 dcook Oh no, it is called a banana boat
03:48 * dcook has no idea why he should remember that...
03:49 dcook I'll go back to coding now after ranting about punctuation and food...
03:49 eythian gmcharlt: bug 12033 for your consideration. Also, I noticed while creating that that not everyone in the group was added, which I would have expected.
03:49 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12033 is not accessible.
03:50 dcook Actually, quick question, wizzyrea. Do you use layout2pages or layout3pages?
03:53 dcook Oh wait a tic...maybe someone did already fix this in master...
03:53 dcook That would sure show me
03:54 dcook Or worse..
03:54 dcook Oh no, still the same.
03:55 eythian my @subf = $field->subfields or ();    # don't use ||, as that forces $field->subfelds to be interpreted in scalar context
03:55 eythian that is a new one on me
03:55 eythian papa, can you explain that?
03:57 papa what?
03:57 papa that line makes no sense
03:57 eythian why || would make something scalar when 'or' wouldn't.
03:58 cjh eythian: || will return the last value evaluated, so my @a = (1,2,3) || (4,5,6); will set @a to 3
03:58 papa correct
03:58 cjh eythian: whereas (1,2,3) or (4,5,6) will set @a to (1,2,3)
03:58 eythian cjh: but those are lists, not arrays.
03:58 eythian does that make a difference here?
03:59 cjh is subfields a function that returns a list?
03:59 mtompset BTW, is adding www-data to at.allow really a good idea?
04:00 eythian cjh: maybe.
04:00 eythian Probably, given where it's going.
04:00 papa my @subf = $field->subfields or ();   is a very poor choice
04:00 mtompset subfields returns scalar or list depending on context.
04:00 eythian papa: in that case, what doesn't make sense about it?
04:00 papa because it will behave in the same manner for undef and ()
04:01 eythian well in that case, it wouldn't matter, right?
04:01 papa which is not ideal
04:01 mtompset papa what error are you encountering? I think I have a bug report.
04:01 eythian ah, I've found the bit in perlop now.
04:02 eythian mtompset: adding www-data to at.allow is necessary if you want www-data to be able to schedule tasks.
04:02 papa I'm not encountering any errors, just thinking aloud
04:02 mtompset oh, because you got me thinking of my bug 11797
04:02 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11797 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Odd number of elements in anonymous hash
04:03 eythian ahh, it's to do with precedence. I find that slightly odd.
04:04 papa eythian: actually you are right, in this particular case it does not matter. but still, it would be *way* better to return an arrayref
04:04 eythian oh, because = binds tighter than 'or'. Now I get it, it makes sense.
04:04 eythian oh, no it doesn't.
04:04 * eythian gives up for now. I'll let it soak in.
04:05 dcook[…]and-Associativity
04:05 eythian[…]-and-Exclusive-Or <-- no, this
04:06 dcook However, when it's a list-context assignment and you're trying to use || for control flow, you probably need "or" so that the assignment takes higher precedence.
04:06 dcook My link just shows the precedence, I believe
04:06 papa returning arrays is a bad idea, unless it is for the multiple values sake, eg return ($status, $error_msg) or something
04:07 papa I would rewrite that anyway
04:24 eythian papa: what's wrong with returning arrays?
04:24 mtompset wizzyrea: I have a question.
04:24 mtompset Do you have a link from tools/ to misc/cronjobs/
04:24 eythian she's gone
04:25 mtompset Because there is no tools/
04:25 * dcook pointed the same thing out a week or two ago :)
04:25 mtompset And yet her patch on bug 12031 says there is.
04:25 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12031 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Task Scheduler not sending mail
04:26 mtompset dcook: Did you bug fix it?
04:26 dcook Nope. I said that the Task Scheduler was probably a bad idea.\
04:26 dcook I'm sure there's a bug around somewhere that has some input from Galen, myself, and perhaps someone else to that effect
04:27 mtompset bug 1993
04:27 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1993 major, P3, ---, sophie.meynieux, In Discussion , Task Scheduler Needs Re-write
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04:30 dcook mtompset: But yeah, good one on bug 12031. I don't know how that could've been successfully tested :S
04:30 dcook Maybe a symlink
04:30 papa eythian: it is wrong
04:30 papa a) cause I say so
04:30 papa b) it is unnecessary copying things around
04:31 eythian well, I suppose it's really returning a list.
04:31 papa yeah, but if it is a largish list...
04:32 mtompset I failed QA'd it, and changed it to depends on 1993. :)
04:33 eythian papa: yeah. I'm wondering if perl does something smart with it, e.g. making it copy-on-write or something.
04:33 eythian But it probably can't.
04:33 mtompset I'm going to bed.
04:33 eythian later
04:33 mtompset Have a great day, #koha eythian dcook papa
04:33 papa like I have allocated some memory for my list, and I'm going to return it, so the recipient has to allocate another block to receive it, and then I'll let the garbage collector to clean up my returning list
04:34 eythian well, if the array in the sub would go out of scope, then you could just provide that anyway.
04:35 eythian so no copying needed.
04:35 papa I used to do that when I was in the army, they'd tell us to dig a trench in the morning, and in the afternoon to dig another one, and use the soil to fill in the first one
04:35 papa nope, @a = some_func() will always copy
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05:24 * cait waves
05:24 dcook yo, cait
05:25 dcook yo all the irmas :p
05:25 cait hi dcook
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05:31 eythian hi cait, irma, irma_
05:34 cait hi eythian
05:38 irma hi eythian, hi cait, I now have IRC on my phone, tablet, laptop 1 and 2 etc. and my fridge ... well not really on the fridge yet ...
05:38 cait :)
05:38 eythian heh
05:38 cait hi irma
05:40 dcook hehe
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05:41 irma *waves south towards dcook
05:42 dcook hey, irma :)
05:42 * dcook waves north
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05:44 irma pfew ... I am back to just me ;-)
05:45 dcook A good way to be :)
05:45 dcook I heard your name over at SLUG the other day. Or rather, I mentioned Koha, that twigged with someone, I mentioned your name, and they were pretty sure that's where there was a connection.
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05:48 irma dcook When the first public library in Australia went live with Koha ...@ SLUG that night, I showed the OPAC and talked about Koha ... A nice moment of shared excitement.
05:48 irma dcook FYI
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05:52 dcook irma: very cool :)
05:52 dcook How long ago was that?
05:53 dcook People seemed rather intrigued when I mentioned Koha, how companies make money while also working together, how the community works, etc.
05:53 dcook Mind you, it was just 3 people around a table in the pub afterward rather than the whole room
05:54 irma dcook April 2012 ... Pity it is too far for a visit ;-)
05:55 dcook Not too long ago at all then. I would love to see more public libraries go up on Koha.
05:55 dcook Hmm? What's too far?
05:58 irma dcook "far" is further than the budget reaches ;-)
05:59 irma *wishes all a pleasant evening. A bientot!
05:59 dcook Ah, I follow now ;)
06:00 dcook My French has faded... bonne soirée?
06:01 irma Bonne soiree / bonne fin de journee ;-)
06:02 dcook Excellent!
06:02 dcook A demain :)
06:10 dcook En fait, I think it's time for me to head out too
06:10 dcook Good night, Kohaers
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06:42 reiveune hello
06:42 wahanui hola, reiveune
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06:52 marcelr hi #koha
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06:56 nlegrand Hey !
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06:59 alex_a bonjour
06:59 wahanui niihau, alex_a
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07:18 paxed i'm running the tests for the first time. is it usual to get (imo) awful lot of complaints, like "1.7976931348623157e308 not valid EAN-13 barcode at t/db_dependent/Barcodes.t line 25."
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07:31 gaetan_B hello
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07:34 cait good morning #koha
07:34 ashimema morning koha
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07:36 cait morning ashimema
07:36 nlegrand during the Marseille koha hackfest, Fridolin showed me a way to ask for all records in the search engine, something like _allrecords: but I don't clearly remember, what can I do to retrieve all records from a catalag search?
07:39 ashimema morning cait... good to have you back
07:39 ashimema sorry nlegrand.. no idea what the query is
07:40 cait :)
07:41 cait nlegrand: sorry, i know there is something, but not how it works
07:41 cait have you tried google or the irc logs? it might show up somewhere
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07:42 ashimema hmmm.. pushing 100 tabs in chrome.. tihnk it may be time to close a few
07:43 nlegrand ashimema, cait thx :) yup, I searched a bit the web, didn't find yet, will continue and reask Frido :)
07:44 Joubu hello
07:44 wahanui hello, Joubu
07:45 Joubu cait: allrecords,AlwaysMatches=""
07:45 nlegrand Joubu: great! thx!
07:45 cait nlegrand:  ^^
07:46 cait Joubu++
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09:15 Hopla test
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11:15 kivilahtio Hi there! I am working on bug 11676, which makes Koha ve greater! :) I have a question regarding getting the koha-to-MARC-mapping using javascript? Is there a ready feature for that?
11:15 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11676 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , Loading shelving locations based on the item's homebranch instead of the user's logged-in branch.
11:16 kivilahtio Specifically I would like to get the MARC-fields Koha uses to store the shelving location
11:18 kivilahtio Joubu, marcelr, slef, wahanui, anyone?
11:20 cait sorry, I don't know
11:20 marcelr 952c i guess
11:21 kivilahtio marcelr: I know
11:21 kivilahtio marcelr: Just curious if there is an API to get the from the javascript
11:21 marcelr :)
11:21 marcelr not that i know
11:21 kivilahtio marcelr: those pesky values can be changed arbitrarily between frameworks which is a pain
11:21 Joubu kivilahtio: no, I don't think so. But have to pass the value to the template
11:21 kivilahtio well I can hack on up no problem
11:22 kivilahtio it prolly needs no authentication neither
11:22 kivilahtio thanks for keeping ears up!
11:22 kivilahtio kutgf!
11:24 kivilahtio Joubu: btw, thanks for introducing me to tig, makes my life more pleasant!
11:25 cait and it's different for UNIMARC
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11:35 Joubu kivilahtio: it's a very useful tool :)
11:35 kivilahtio indeed it is
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11:46 marcelr Joubu: if you got a minute, please take a short look at bug 12036..
11:46 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12036 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , fails to add items when itemrecorddisplay is too long (acqCreateItem=ordering)
11:48 ashimema tig is indeed lovely..
11:48 ashimema been using it for a while now..
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12:05 francharb good morning #koha
12:08 cait morning francharb
12:08 cait ashimema: what's tig again?
12:14 Joubu marcelr: yes, I'm going to take a look
12:14 marcelr thx
12:21 ashimema git spelt backwards ;)
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12:22 kivilahtio oh no I think I bursted the tig-bubble
12:22 ashimema cait: it's git spelt backwards.. or in a more detailed explanation.. It's a ncurses based git client.
12:22 kivilahtio less cursing with n-curses
12:22 ashimema
12:23 ashimema pretty powerful in a pretty ui ;)
12:24 oleonard Hi #koha
12:27 Joubu marcelr: It works for me :-/ I added some subfields to my ACQ framework. returns 38098 chars and the form is correctly displayed
12:32 marcelr Joubu: thx for testing; I noticed that the output also contained some script related to plugins; will test if it fails without them
12:33 Joubu marcelr: Did you try git bisect?
12:33 marcelr no i see no differences between 3.14.4 and master in the javascro[t
12:33 marcelr script
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13:17 rhcl @wunder 64507
13:17 huginn rhcl: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 10.1°C (8:17 AM CDT on April 03, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.66 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
13:24 Joubu oleonard: Did you see my comment on bug 11601?
13:24 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11601 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, Signed Off , Bootstrap theme has CSS files that do not have LESS counterparts
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13:25 oleonard Joubu: I did but thank you for reminding me
13:28 Joubu Actually, I am used to ping you when I have a question related to templates. Don't hesitate to tell me if I bother you ;)
13:31 oleonard I'm always happy to answer questions. I like being useful :)
13:34 cait :)
13:34 cait Joubu++ and oleonard++
13:37 Joubu oleonard: I have just added a "templating" entry for 3.18 Module maintainers, if you want to join the MM team :)
13:38 marcelr Joubu:[…]module_maintainer  do ?
13:38 marcelr bye all
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13:44 barton morning #koha!
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13:45 rhcl morning barton
13:45 * barton likes to be sociable before launching into questions...
13:45 barton morning rhcl
13:46 barton was it my breath?
13:46 outtahere ah, the " launching into questions" part
13:47 barton What populates the date in the 'description' field of accoutlines?
13:48 outtahere Ah good. That requires someone with an MLS.
13:48 * oleonard wonders if that was Windows' "restart now?" dialog that just appeared suddenly, stole focus, and was dismissed by whatever I was typing
13:48 outtahere MAS != MLS
13:48 barton outtahere 'MAS'?
13:49 outtahere Master of Applied Science (Information Technology)
13:49 barton aha. never heard that before.
13:50 outtahere Fairly new program at the local university.
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14:19 oleonard barton: Did you figure out your accountlines question?
14:21 barton oleonard: I'm poking around in C4/ right now...
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14:25 barton looks like description is mentioned in recordpayment(), makepayment(), chargelostitem(), manualinvoice(), ReversePayment(), recordpayment_selectaccts(), makepartialpayment() and WriteOffFee() ...
14:26 oleonard I don't see any dates stored in the description column though
14:29 * oleonard checks out the branch in which he had started to work on Bug 1917
14:29 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1917 enhancement, P3, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Add RSS Feeds for Lists
14:30 oleonard "Your branch and 'origin/master' have diverged, and have 1 and 1441 different commits each, respectively."
14:30 barton oleonard: yeah -- khall's accounts rewrite may have fixed the problem.
14:30 * oleonard 's branch might be just a tad stale
14:30 * barton doesn't know if that's in main yet...
14:31 barton anyway...
14:32 barton the code I'm looking at is 3.14.03.
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14:35 barton morning rocio!
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14:36 rocio morning barton!
14:39 barton shell function returning the names of functions containing a regex:
14:39 barton grepsub description /var/lib/koha/corpus/kohaclone/C4/
14:39 barton grepsub() { regex=$1; shift; egrep "^sub|$regex" "$@" | grep -B1 "$regex" | grep '^sub'; }
14:40 barton (first line was example)
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15:07 gaetan_B the seems to have a bug
15:07 gaetan_B if you duplicate a 040$d subfield
15:07 gaetan_B and click in the new one
15:07 gaetan_B the previous one is filled
15:08 gaetan_B this doen't seem like the expected behaviour
15:08 gaetan_B has anyone had this as well ?
15:09 barton morning tgoat!
15:13 reiveune bye
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15:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12018 - add table sorting to patron card batches <[…]c07c12868d9a90b96>
15:32 kivilahtio is this normal? I am trying to batch import a MARCXML file.
15:32 kivilahtio [Thu Apr 03 18:31:50 2014] [error] [client] [Thu Apr  3 18:31:50 2014] Filehandle STDOUT reopened as FH only for input at /usr/lib/perl5/Template/ line 964., referer: http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/[…]
15:32 kivilahtio I get several of these
15:34 kivilahtio also works fine, but does not :(
15:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11993: fix untranslatable confirm popup in <[…]dd0b9bd30f260d2db>
15:45 cait barton: i think it might differ depending on what the accountline is about
15:46 cait kivilahtio: what are you trying to do?
15:46 cait if you use bulkmarkimport you won't have to stage the file, it does a stage and commit
15:47 kivilahtio I am trying to upload a batch of MARC records to make acqusitions from
15:47 cait and how are you trying to do it?
15:47 cait do you want to do it from the gui or command line?
15:47 kivilahtio cait: Well... I go to
15:47 kivilahtio GUI
15:47 cait ok
15:47 cait do you have a mrc file?
15:48 kivilahtio cait: lemme pastebin it for you
15:48 cait are you running plack?
15:48 kivilahtio but it works fine with
15:48 kivilahtio nope
15:48 kivilahtio just apache2
15:48 cait you can't import xml from stage i think
15:48 cait only mrc
15:48 kivilahtio well I tested it with bulkmarcimport test mode
15:48 kivilahtio hmm
15:48 cait both are not the same
15:48 kivilahtio ok then :)
15:48 cait bulkmarcimport is a different animal :)
15:49 kivilahtio so I cannot import marcxml via GUI
15:49 cait afaik
15:49 kivilahtio ok
15:49 kivilahtio I wonder if it is bad to code it
15:49 cait if you convert it using marcedit or something it should work
15:49 kivilahtio yeah that is how they did it
15:49 kivilahtio but the problem is that we have several bibliographic record (cataloguin) vendors and some give as xml
15:49 kivilahtio cait: Thanks fot the heads up!
15:50 kivilahtio I'll try to solve this
15:50 barton cait -- true. The description that I was worried about in particular was in
15:50 cait sure, hope you can solve it
15:50 kivilahtio I can :D
15:50 cait barton: what did i say?
15:50 * cait scrolls panically
15:50 cait aah
15:50 barton you were talking about accountlines...
15:50 cait barton: in the past, there was a full string in description
15:51 cait which was bad... becasue untranslatable
15:51 cait i think it changed recently... should only be in master
15:51 cait but the accouts rewrite is not yet
15:54 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11393: fix display of Thai in language menu when Thai translation is installed <[…]4a5bf3ff09ee5149c>
15:54 kivilahtio cait: yay! Got it working with iso-format
15:55 wajasu i did a followup for bug 11573 to get the displayed description consistent, which doesn't really show the description, but dervies one from the other fields. (except for renewal).
15:55 kivilahtio woowee
15:55 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11573 new feature, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , change description of charges in account fines
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16:32 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
16:33 mtompset oleonard: You here?
16:33 oleonard Yes
16:33 mtompset I wanted to get some feedback, insight, wisdom from you, our CSS/web designing guru. :)
16:33 mtompset regarding bug 10823
16:33 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10823 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , add class info to enumchron data in, for better styling
16:34 mtompset particularly KF's question regarding div vs. span.
16:34 mtompset Is there a set of guidelines for choosing one over the other?
16:35 oleonard <div> is block-level, so by default it appears on its own "line," as if it was preceded by a line break.
16:36 oleonard <span> is inline, so it stays within the flow of the text it is in.
16:36 oleonard In this case I don't see any reason why the text should be block-level. I think <span> is preferable.
16:37 mtompset Thank you. :)
16:45 kivilahtio Thenk you everybody for creating such an awesome library sytstem!
16:45 kivilahtio I'm going home
16:45 kivilahtio take care
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17:00 mtompset Bye, kivilahtio.
17:00 mtompset Greetings, nengard
17:00 nengard hello
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17:27 wajasu mtompset: i have the zebra facet query in my local dev and am trying to decide how to map to the facet data structure.  what to do with the similiar returned terms.
17:27 pastebot "wajasu" at pasted "example facet query with yaz for Authors" (33 lines) at
17:28 mtompset I'd leave them separate. Any logic you add to try to make it smart, may end up being dumb.
17:30 cait yep
17:30 cait also, for what we know, they might be different persons
17:30 cait and if you use authority numbers for linking those are also different
17:30 mtompset Good point about the authority numbers.
17:31 wajasu well, with cutting off in presentation, we will always 2 of the same name for most Authors.
17:32 mtompset Yes, but the second is like a subset, right?
17:32 cait hm that depends where you cut off
17:33 cait we could showmore information in a mouse over
17:33 cait like the dates the person lived
17:33 cait or for the same, offer a tree
17:33 wajasu today the cut off is 20 chars i think.
17:33 cait showing the long names
17:33 cait that's configurable
17:33 wajasu yes.  mouse over shoud show all.
17:33 mtompset Ooo... yes, mouseover... like.
17:36 wajasu i guess as i iterate, if a term has a previously seen term, AND the # occur is the same, we could overwrite withthe longer term. (and maybe use the auth number).
17:36 wajasu Don't know what to do about why the auth number is appended to some of the terms.
17:36 cait ?
17:37 wajasu <term coccur="4" occur="4">Tozer, A. W. (Aiden Wilson), 1897-1963. 11849</term>
17:37 cait i guess you are looking at a whole field there
17:37 cait and in the index it doesn't show the subfields
17:37 cait only some might be linked to an authorit
17:37 cait y
17:37 cait and not all your authors are
17:46 wajasu I will just load maxRecordsForFacets terms.
17:46 pastebot "wajasu" at pasted "another yaz zebra facet search" (25 lines) at
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18:00 cait hm what doesn't look right
18:00 cait are you sure the index has a good sttructur for facets?
18:00 cait it looks like there is the $a and the full field for each
18:00 cait or something like that
18:01 cait i tihk defining what we want and which data that wuld be might be good before diving into programming
18:01 cait for example i think that we should look at the whole record set
18:01 cait and just show the most oft often used and then a 'more' link
18:01 cait to show them all
18:02 cait i need to have dinner.
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18:11 pianohacker @seen cait
18:11 huginn pianohacker: cait was last seen in #koha 8 minutes and 47 seconds ago: <cait> i need to have dinner.
18:11 pianohacker very reasonable
18:17 cait_afk here
18:18 cait_afk pianohacker:
18:19 pianohacker cait_afk: oh hai. Just to verify, you wanted me to update the documentation (on the bug?), fix the LESS files, and check for an untranslatable string?
18:20 cait_afk yes and fix the library limiting
18:20 pianohacker oh that
18:21 cait_afk fix it or take it out for now
18:21 pianohacker cait_afk: I think I might just have to filter out that error; it happens when there's nothing for pazpar2 to search. If you have any filters on a target, it's not visible to anonymous users
18:21 cait_afk ?
18:21 cait_afk sorry, i think you lost me there
18:21 pianohacker cait_afk: were you logged into the opac at that point?
18:21 cait_afk yep
18:22 pianohacker cait_afk: as a user from one of the branches that wasn't filtered out?
18:22 cait_afk do you still have my notes?
18:22 cait_afk yep
18:22 pianohacker yes I do
18:23 pianohacker that's weird, then. lemme check on that
18:23 cait_afk ok
18:23 cait_afk basically, as soon as i had one library selected it broke
18:23 cait_afk and the basic feature didn't work
18:24 mtompset Actually, I just got back from a chauffeur job... wajasu, the "duplicates" look like someone didn't catalogue the authorities the same way consistently.
18:25 cait_afk mtompset: actually i think they look a bit too consistent
18:25 cait_afk to be just catalouging errors
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18:25 cait_afk mtompset: i think index structure - one would need to take a look at the records linked
18:27 mtompset cait_afk: You are right. You'd have to check out the records. Perhaps they are consistent because they come from different cataloguing sources (e.g. did z39.50 search and imported from different servers for various titles with the same author)
18:35 gaetan_B bye!
18:44 atheia g'night everyone!
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19:16 pianohacker brb
19:23 cait_afk bgkriegel++
19:24 pianohacker back
19:32 * cait_afk is still here
19:32 pianohacker pianohacker--
19:32 huginn pianohacker: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma.
19:32 wajasu mtompset: my records were from an old library MSDOS/window software system where the librarian used marcedit to get author, title etc for years. I exported them as .mrc records, and wrote a program to query LOC, and some other z3950 servers, and wrote enriched marcxml.
19:32 pianohacker jesus, I have no idea why I thought this code would work 6 months ago
19:33 pianohacker Its like I let my brain out to prance in the fjords for a day, then wrote some code
19:35 wajasu mtompset: the records I could not find in z3950 severs, I manufactured programatically.
19:37 pianohacker oleonard: around?
19:37 oleonard Yes
19:38 * cait_afk sends cookies
19:38 pianohacker oleonard: do you have any good resources on getting bootstrap modals to properly autosize? They have a thoroughly fixed size that I had to hack around to use them in rancor, and before I port bug 10486 to them, I thought I'd ask if there's a better way
19:39 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10486 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Allow external Z39.50 targets to be searched from the OPAC
19:39 cait_afk pianohacker: maybe we could remove the library feature for now and implement in a follow up?
19:39 pianohacker cait_afk: I just fixed that
19:39 cait_afk oh ok
19:39 pianohacker I forgot to call in any way, shape or form before checking for the user's branch, thus the headdesking above
19:39 cait_afk so which code are you talking about? :)
19:39 cait_afk lol
19:40 cait_afk maybe you were thinking aobut opac views limited to branch?
19:40 pianohacker I have no idea
19:41 oleonard pianohacker: I have not looked into that issue
19:44 pianohacker oleonard: kk, just asking, as this is the current solution (has more whitespace in the code): $(this).modal({ show: false }).css({ marginLeft: function() { return -($(this).width() / 2); } });
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19:45 pianohacker you can see why I don't want to duplicate this too much :P
19:45 oleonard What problem are you trying to solve?
19:46 pianohacker oleonard: modals in bootstrap have a hardcoded width of 560 px. If you want them to have any other size, you have to do the above
19:47 pianohacker oh jesus yeah
19:48 pianohacker ... that sounds rather odd when you say it in the wrong channel
19:48 oleonard Just hypothetically speaking that is.
19:50 pianohacker oleonard: that code's in Rancor
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21:06 HdezCortes Hola Alguien Habla español?
21:07 pianohacker un poco, que quiere
21:07 HdezCortes Quisiera saber dond Koha guarda sus tmp???
21:08 HdezCortes por que el disco de mi servidor se lleno muy rapido y solo tengo koha instalado hay
21:10 pianohacker HdezCortes: está usando el cleanup_database cronjob?
21:11 HdezCortes no
21:11 HdezCortes pianohacker soy un poco novato en Koha
21:14 pianohacker yo entiendo :)
21:21 wizzyrea cait++
21:22 pianohacker HdezCortes: hacer el consulta 'SELECT COUNT(*) FROM sessions' en mysql
21:22 eythian hi
21:22 pianohacker hola eythian
21:22 pianohacker and wizzyrea :)
21:22 cait_afk good night all :)
21:22 eythian pianohacker: thought you were wahanui for a moment
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21:24 pianohacker even as off-the-wall as I am finishing up this crazy semester, I'm not that nuts ;)
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21:25 wizzyrea haha
21:25 wizzyrea our bot is "nuts"
21:26 pianohacker wahanui: our bot?
21:26 wahanui our bot is "nuts"
21:26 pianohacker :D
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21:28 pianohacker hahahahahaha
21:28 wizzyrea :D
21:28 pianohacker hi trea!
21:28 gmcharlt @auote random
21:28 nuts gmcharlt: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
21:28 gmcharlt @quote random
21:28 nuts gmcharlt: Quote #277: "kivilahtio: jcamins, don't help me :)" (added by mtompset at 12:38 PM, September 16, 2013)
21:32 talljoy i just missed the nuts
21:34 wizzyrea @quote random
21:34 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #178: "jcamins: IIS kills kittens" (added by wizzyrea at 05:20 PM, January 10, 2012)
21:34 wizzyrea @quote random
21:34 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #176: "rangi: buy people a glass of  zomg there's actually real things to care about" juice?"" (added by jcamins at 06:02 PM, January 06, 2012)
21:37 rangi i like that one
21:38 pianohacker I think my favorite is still ILSeseseses
21:39 rangi Koha .. ninjas don't care for your grammatically incorrect math issues!
21:39 rangi there, beat that one
22:30 wizzyrea @quote get last
22:30 huginn wizzyrea: Error: 'last' is not a valid id.
22:30 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
22:30 wizzyrea @quote get 305
22:30 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #305: "Koha .. ninjas don't care for your grammatically incorrect math issues!" (added by wizzyrea at 09:34 PM, April 03, 2014)
22:31 * wizzyrea was hoping it would be a surprise someday
22:31 wizzyrea and we'd all have a righteous chuckle.
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22:34 * dcook is so confused
22:34 dcook Maybe if I subtract puzzlement from confusion I'll get contentment...
22:35 dcook Damn, I should've mentioned division so I could talk about a remainder...
22:36 pianohacker dcook: don't make such divisive comments
22:37 dcook But I was only trying to multiply others' regard for me
22:38 * dcook should stick to English jokes
22:38 pianohacker this conversation is getting exponentially more annoying
22:39 dcook Perhaps we should analyze the root of the problem
22:39 pianohacker nah, that'll just add more issues, I think
22:39 rangi[…]ok-my-smart-peeps  <-- context
22:40 pianohacker these jokes are getting pretty derivative anyways
22:41 dcook At this point, I think we're really off on a tangent
22:42 pianohacker maybe... I think all of these puns are integral to our conversation though
22:47 dcook There are so many options, yet no one else is joining in. I'm getting an acute sense that we're alone in enjoying the puns
22:48 pianohacker don't be so obtuse, dude
22:50 dcook Surely, I must be right to a degree
22:51 eythian I think this has reached its limit.
23:12 talljoy @later tell jcamins i've got a question for you on authority matching!  fun!
23:12 huginn talljoy: The operation succeeded.
23:17 pianohacker @later tell cait 10486 followup yey
23:17 huginn pianohacker: The operation succeeded.
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