Time Nick Message 00:00 mtompset Not sure... let me go hunting again. 00:00 mtj hmm 10823 and 10825 perhaps 00:00 mtompset sounds right. 00:02 mtompset I don't know what to respond to KF's question regarding div vs. span. 00:02 mtj just reading up now… :) 00:03 mtompset I just fixed up the itemloo vs. item problem on your patch. 00:21 mtj mtompset, thanks for spotting that… its a pretty goofy mistake i made 00:21 mtompset It happens to the best of us. 00:22 mtompset If that looks gooed to you, you sign off 10823, and I'll sign off, and then we mark it as signed off, and QA should be able to take it away. :) 00:22 mtj yep , will do 00:23 mtj ill have a whack at them a bit later today 00:23 mtompset Then we could tweak 10825 to be dependent on 10823. 00:23 mtompset 10823 adding the styling, and 10825 preventing duplication. 00:24 mtj gotcha 00:25 mtj thanks for looking at my bugs :) 00:38 mtompset Not a problem. Care to look at a couple of mine? ;) 02:18 eythian wahanui: literal bye 02:18 wahanui eythian: sorry... 02:18 eythian wahanui: literal goodbye 02:18 wahanui eythian: what? 02:18 eythian wahanui: goodbye is <reply>\I hope the rest of your day is as pleasant as you are. 02:18 wahanui OK, eythian. 02:18 eythian wahanui: literal goodbye 02:18 wahanui eythian: goodbye =is= <reply>I hope the rest of wahanui's day is as pleasant as you are. 02:19 eythian no wahanui, goodbye is <reply>\I hope the rest of \your day is as pleasant as you are. 02:19 wahanui okay, eythian. 02:19 eythian wahanui: literal goodbye 02:19 wahanui eythian: goodbye =is= <reply>I hope the rest of your day is as pleasant as you are. 02:36 eythian wahanui: pony is <reply>http://uber.geek.nz/pony.jpg 02:36 wahanui i already had it that way, eythian. 02:37 eythian oh 02:37 mtompset pony?! 02:37 mtompset Why would wahanui need to know about a pony? 02:38 eythian in case you find someone making unreasonable demands, you can tell them they can't have a pony either. 02:42 eythian Wow, just loading the staff client homepage sure causes a lot of sysprefs to be put into memcache. 02:43 eythian by which I mean, it requests those prefs, and they get put into memcache as part of that process. 02:44 mtompset wouldn't that happen at login time? 02:44 eythian No, I was already logged in. 02:45 mtompset So the main page refills memcache each time? 02:45 eythian It'll be loading the INIT/BEGIN blocks of many dependent modules. 02:45 eythian No, whenever you query a syspref, it sticks the value into memcache so it doesn't have to talk to the DB again. 02:46 eythian More than I expected are getting put into the cache from just loading the front page. 02:46 mtompset Well, it does increase the responsiveness of the other pages. 02:47 mtompset At least that's my theory. :) 02:47 eythian it's not deliberate, it's just what's happening. 02:47 eythian It will lower the responsiveness in general, but hopefully will speed it up with plack and memcache a little. 02:48 mtompset Ah... is it like those random bits of code that caused the robots to congregate in a corner in the box cars in iRobot? ;) 02:48 eythian ummm...maybe? 02:48 mtompset Koha is working towards Skynet conciousness! :P 02:54 eythian well, cache clearing appears to be working as I'd expect. 03:19 eythian Bug 11998 is ready for signoff if anyone wants something to do... 03:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11998 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Syspref caching issues 03:36 mtompset eythian: Did you add parameters to set_preference? 03:37 mtompset Couldn't you hashref'd them? 03:37 mtompset my ($self, $parameters) = @_; 03:38 eythian Well, there's two APIs (in a way) and I want to keep the simple one the same as it always was. The extra parameters are the old API with a few more things. 03:39 mtompset my ($self, $var, $value, $extra_hashref) = @_;; 03:39 eythian I don't like that much either, as now you're doing it two ways in one call. 03:40 mtompset I just don't like the explosion of parameters. 03:41 mtompset However, I share your dislike for a mixed solution. 03:41 eythian I don't like it in general. However, in 99% of cases, only one form needs to be used (i.e. the "var, value" one.) 03:41 eythian It's only when you're adding a local use preference that the longer form is used. 03:44 mtompset BTW, I like the delete_systempreference addition. 03:44 eythian I felt that deleting them from the database directly in other files probably wasn't the best idea. 03:46 eythian http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/12b9/?cpg=wnrss <-- wizzyrea 03:46 mtompset Oh, and where are the .t files? 03:47 mtompset You added functions in a C4 or Koha library. You should have .t files to prove them. 03:47 eythian oh, I suppose I should have for the delete one. All the rest are covered by existing tests. 03:47 eythian (I think) 03:49 mtompset set_preference doesn't? 03:50 mtompset oh, wait t/db_dependent/sysprefs.t 03:50 eythian yeah 03:50 mtompset But you added parameters. 03:51 eythian Well, they can't go wrong, as they can't be fetched out by any functions anyway :) 03:51 mtompset Yes, but the sysprefs.t should at least make one call with the new parameters. 03:52 mtompset to prove that they work as expected. 03:53 mtompset oh, and the 30 second timeout... you could write a test to prove that. 03:54 eythian Not readily. a) I don't want to slow down running tests by 30 seconds, and b) if memcache is in the environment, the test will fail. 03:54 eythian Caching is a difficult thing to unit test. 03:56 mtompset a pox on memcache. :P 03:57 mtompset sadly, I don 03:57 mtompset t have memcache set up. 03:57 mtompset So, I can't test your code. 03:58 mtompset Oooo... K9 slippers. Nice! 04:00 eythian whoops, I did just spot an issue in the delete_preference code. 04:04 mtompset Also... I have one last question while looking at the code. 04:04 mtompset C4::Context->set_preference($var, undef); in the last patch file. 04:04 eythian yeah 04:04 eythian that's the error 04:04 eythian it should be _cache_preference 04:04 mtompset AH... 04:04 mtompset That's what I was going to ask. 04:08 * cait waves 04:08 eythian hi cait 04:13 eythian mtompset: good thing you made me write a test case, it found a problem :) 04:14 mtompset I didn't *MAKE* you. I just reminded you of the requirements for things getting into Koha. :) 04:14 mtompset cait: Good day! :) 04:15 cait hi eythian, mtompset 04:19 mtompset Well, I should sleep. 04:19 eythian mtompset: there we go, fix and test case added 04:19 eythian (it also tests caching to some degree by going directly to the database.) 04:19 mtompset Enjoyed reading your code, eythian. Have a great day, #koha eythian cait. 04:19 eythian later 05:15 dcook Hmm, anyone else having issues with http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=tree ? 05:23 dcook Ok, not just me 05:23 dcook git-koha.commnity.org appears to be down 05:26 cait seems down to me too :( 05:26 dcook Poor gitweb 05:30 * cait looks at bug 6739 05:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6739 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , expired patrons not blocked from opac actions 05:30 cait over a 100 comments and patches from mutiple authors 05:31 cait dcook: git pull doens't work either 05:32 dcook That's crazy, cait 05:32 dcook I have difficulty following after 20-30 comments usually 05:32 cait a bit 05:33 cait but looks like i tested it before 05:33 cait comment 113 05:33 dcook Bug trackers should show things a bit more visually... 05:34 rangi its cos some eggs keep cloning 05:34 rangi and cloning 05:34 rangi using up all the ram 05:35 rangi its quite easy to DOS something by git cloning it to death 05:36 dcook rangi: I had a feeling that might be the case recently 05:36 rangi specially when people go 'this is too slow, ill ctrl-c and try again, oh and ill refresh the gitweb page too' 05:37 dcook Hmm, maybe next time I'll use my semi-out of date master instead of using the web ui :p 05:37 rangi you can always use one of the mirrors 05:38 rangi like repo.or.cz 05:38 dcook Yeah, I ended up using Github in the end 05:38 rangi well not github, cos its full of sexist dicks and is proprietary :) 05:39 rangi but repo.or.cz is usually ever only an hour or so behind 05:39 rangi http://repo.or.cz/w/koha.git 05:39 wahanui hmmm... http://repo.or.cz/w/koha.git is automatically up to date 05:41 dcook Sounds good to me 05:41 dcook Yeah, I don't think anyone can say they're too impressed with Github these days 05:41 dcook Well, ok, lots of people probably would, but they're probably also sexist 05:46 rangi dcook: http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery3/index.php/kohaphotos/kohacurses 05:47 dcook Cool, rangi :) 05:48 dcook I don't think Curses::UI has changed much from that time 05:48 cait cool :) 05:48 cait rangi: was it used? 05:48 dcook Ah, then again, 2008 according to UI.pm... 05:49 rangi yes 05:49 rangi until about 2002 05:49 rangi super fast 05:49 rangi still would be 05:49 cait cool 05:50 rangi i did one using TK too 05:50 rangi http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery3/index.php/kohaphotos/kohatk 05:50 rangi never used in production tho 05:51 dcook Neat! 05:51 * dcook wants to play around with GUIs at some point... 05:51 rangi this makes me sad 05:51 dcook I suppose I could use Tk and X forwarding but... 05:51 dcook Oh? 05:51 rangi http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery3/index.php/kohaphotos/koha 05:52 dcook Mmm 05:52 dcook Silly rangi and his logic 05:53 dcook Wait, maybe I'm thinking of something different.. 05:53 dcook The current names of the virtual shelves make more sense now ;) 05:53 rangi :) 05:53 dcook Err...or the old name.. 05:54 dcook http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery3/index.php/kohaphotos/koha/acq4 05:54 rangi http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery3/index.php/kohaphotos/koha/acq3 05:54 dcook Yep 05:54 rangi groups, who needs them 05:54 dcook hehe 05:55 dcook It's not like we're organizing items or anything 05:55 rangi yeah, its not like someone would ever want to put a hold on all the large print copies of a biblio 05:55 dcook Or just the DVD version 05:56 rangi thats crazy talk 05:56 rangi it'll never catch on 05:56 rangi papa++ #new patches 06:07 cait training a new koha library 06:07 cait wish me luck :) 06:08 dcook @later tell cait Good luck! 06:08 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded. 06:09 rangi *sigh* 06:20 papa rangi: it's all mtompsett's fault, he's been harassing me 06:20 rangi heh 06:21 papa he has a secret agenda - wants me to add tests for everything in Koha that has no tests 06:21 rangi nice 06:21 * magnuse waves 06:22 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/HTML_Report/ 06:22 rangi that was 30% sub coverage and less than %20 code only a few years ago 06:39 reiveune hello 06:39 wahanui que tal, reiveune 06:42 alex_a bonjour 06:43 * dcook wonders when it became 5:43pm.. 06:43 * dcook waves to the French folk :) 07:06 mtj rangi, i really enjoyed those curses and tk links before :) 07:07 mtj i just remembered Jesse's ajax circ stuff… from a while ago 07:08 dcook One good thing about Perl OOP infrastructure not being that good... 07:08 dcook Easy to hack an object :D 07:09 dcook Encapsulation, that's what I meant. Next to no encapsulation. Muahaha. 07:12 magnuse bug 11703 - just waitin' for some qa love... 07:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable 07:12 magnuse and hiya mtj! 07:24 ashimema good morning all 07:24 magnuse hiya ashimema 07:24 ashimema so, after the backlight blew in my old dell.. i'm on the hunt for a new monitor.. 07:25 ashimema anyone had any experiences with the super cheap korean imports? 07:25 ashimema seems 'to good to be true'.. but reviews are generally favourable it seems 07:27 dcook Ooo mouse support in Curses::UI...noice 07:28 dcook Alas, no idea for the UK, ashimema. 07:28 dcook I've had good experience with Mwave.com.au but I think they're just Oz and the US? 07:31 dcook Whoa. 6:30pm? 07:31 * dcook frowns 08:15 atheia G'morning all! 08:20 ashimema Cheers dcook. 08:36 magnuse hiya atheia 08:58 mtj evening all 08:58 magnuse wassup mtj! 08:58 mtj hey magnuse :p 08:59 mtj ashimema, what monitor brands are you considering over there..? 08:59 ashimema I've only just started looking.. 09:00 mtj ah ok :) 09:01 ashimema I'm not on an especially big budget though.. so it rules out the likes of Dell in favour of Hazro and AOC.. or from korea the likes of Crossover or Achieva Shimian 09:01 ashimema would love to be able to go high spec like Ilyama and Dell or Viewsonic.. but need must ;) 09:02 ashimema wondered if anyone had any experience with the latter two above.. lots on ebay for remarkably low prices.. 09:02 mtj AOC ive heard good things, but not heard of the last 2 09:11 mtj magnuse, thanks for the ajax-circ url… i had not seen khall's patch before :) 09:14 magnuse mtj: my pleasure! 09:15 ashimema Yeah, Crossover and Achieva Shimian are 'dodgy' south korean imports.. they use mostly the same panels internally as all the big boys but the ut costs by limiting down the number of connectivity options... but to be honest.. who uses more than one or two anyways ;) 09:27 Joubu magnuse: bug 11703 is waiting for an answer, I started QA on it :) 09:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable 09:27 paxed can i do a search for a call number starting with 03? 09:31 magnuse Joubu: awesome! 09:31 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, magnuse 09:31 magnuse gah! 09:32 magnuse @seen khall 09:32 huginn magnuse: khall was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 6 days, 18 hours, 49 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <khall> also, I like the icon 09:36 ashimema he probably hasn't slept muhc in that time either ;) 09:37 vfernandes hi :) 09:38 vfernandes which is the correct terminology: koha 3.8 or koha 3.08? 09:39 vfernandes anyone? 09:39 wahanui Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? 10:01 mtj vfernandes, 3.8 - i think... 12:19 NateC morning everyone :) 12:20 francharb morning 12:24 magnuse kia ora NateC and francharb 12:24 francharb o/ magnuse 12:25 NateC hiya magnuse! 12:34 ashimema @seen pianohacker 12:34 huginn ashimema: pianohacker was last seen in #koha 1 day, 21 hours, 15 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <pianohacker> woot woot timezones 12:36 ashimema @later tell pianohacker give us a shout when you on mate.. wanna pick your brains about shib. 12:36 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded. 12:48 ashimema it's quiet in here.. something tells me it's the lack of cait ;) 13:25 rhcl @wunder 64507 13:26 huginn rhcl: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is -1.1°C (8:20 AM CDT on April 01, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Rising). 13:34 magnuse @wunder boo 13:34 ashimema anyone here know what can cause this error: Template process failed: file error - cssinclude: not found at /home2/blds/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 132. 13:34 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (3:20 PM CEST on April 01, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 13:34 ashimema it's with bootstrap theme turned on.. in 3.14.5 13:35 ashimema and 3.14.4 for that matter. 13:35 magnuse it's looking for a file called cssinclude? 13:35 ashimema yeah.. but where is that coming from 13:35 magnuse dunno :-) 13:39 jcamins ashimema: you need to update the templates? 13:42 ashimema hmm. 13:42 ashimema it's a clean install.. 13:42 ashimema well.. clean install with an old db.. for upgrade.. 13:43 ashimema turn on bootstrap and it complains. 13:45 jcamins ashimema: and you're using plain en? 13:47 ashimema that's a nasty one.. 13:47 ashimema The db I had imported was set to use en-GB 13:48 ashimema but en-GB hadn't been installed on the system yet. 13:48 ashimema I presumed it would default back to normal en.. (like prog and ccsr both do).. rather than screw up 13:48 ashimema hey, jcamins.. you about for a few mins.. 13:49 ashimema I've still not gotten to the bottom of that queryparser problem and was hoping you may be able to drop some more hints some time.. 13:50 jcamins It should fall back to en... but I'm glad I got it right! 13:52 ashimema ;) 13:59 jenkins_koha Starting build #1676 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 14:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11786: Improve RDFa structured data schema.org mappings <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3bc1021deb851db8965e9ac3a8ff89aba71f6acc> 14:11 jenkins_koha Starting build #403 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 15:08 reiveune bye 15:14 * oleonard waves 15:16 oleonard cait: What's the circulation conditions table? 15:23 * oleonard did not expect there to be no cait 15:34 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #403: SUCCESS in 1 hr 24 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/403/ 15:34 jenkins_koha Dan Scott: Bug 11786: Improve RDFa structured data schema.org mappings 15:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11786 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dan, Pushed to Master , Improve RDFa schema.org mappings in prog and bootstrap 15:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1676: UNSTABLE in 2 hr 1 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1676/ 15:58 jenkins_koha Dan Scott: Bug 11786: Improve RDFa structured data schema.org mappings 15:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11786 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dan, Pushed to Master , Improve RDFa schema.org mappings in prog and bootstrap 16:03 dbs huh. http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1676/testReport/%28root%29/t_db_dependent_XISBN_t/Number_of_runned_tests_does_not_match_plan___146_/ ? 16:10 * dbs feels a bit crazy but t/db_dependent/XISBN.t only appears to contain 4 tests, despite the test plan of 5, and he isn't sure how his XSL changes could be related 16:10 dbs oh wait, use_ok is #5 (#1). umm. 16:12 dbs So, xISBN likely just timed out or failed on the server side, and the test failure is not actually related to my commit (?) 16:20 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 16:22 mtompset http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ still says March. 16:38 mtompset enhancement vs. new feature? 16:38 mtompset When did that happen? 16:38 oleonard A while ago 16:39 mtompset Greetings, oleonard. :) 16:43 mtompset I'm off to do thank you letters and such. 16:43 mtompset Have a great day, #koha. 16:50 nengard oleonard question about hiding the border around .main in bootstrap - i tried border: 0px; and border: none; but it still shows ... what am I missing? 16:51 nengard in fact it seems that all of my css in opacusercss is being ignored .... 16:54 oleonard Well nengard I know opacusercss works in bootstrap, so perhaps your first step is understanding why it's not for you. 16:55 nengard well it has worked for me on ohter sites 16:55 nengard so maybe it's why it's not working on 2 of the sites I'm trying :) 16:55 nengard http://nengard.test.bywatersolutions.com/ 16:55 nengard a few things are working 16:55 nengard like the white background and white log in font 16:58 oleonard .main has two styles to check: border and box-shadow 17:25 pianohacker hi 17:25 wahanui hey, pianohacker 17:26 nengard sorry oleonard - had a phone call 17:26 nengard i'm back now 17:26 nengard off to check 18:56 oleonard Hi cait 18:56 cait hi oleonard :) 18:57 pianohacker hi pianohacker 18:58 oleonard cait: What's the circulation conditions table? 18:59 cait oh 18:59 cait sorry 18:59 cait where did i write that? 18:59 cait or do you mean in the database? 18:59 cait issuingrules? 18:59 oleonard cait: You @later'ed me about adding datatables to it 18:59 cait aaah sorry for not being clear 19:00 cait we call it ausleihkonditionen in german... i guess i was not fully awake 19:00 cait i was thinking that it owuld be nice to have an option to sort the circulation condtions - because then you could check your settings for a patron type but also for an itemtype 19:01 cait now looking up all rules for an itemtype can be a bit hard 19:01 cait i think we would need a sort option for 'in the order they apply' which might be the hard bit... (I am more awake now then this morning...) 19:02 pianohacker cait: do they display that way on initial page load, or am I making that up? 19:02 cait i think they do 19:03 * magnuse waves 19:03 pianohacker hi magnuse 19:04 druthb magnuse! 19:04 wahanui magnuse is, like, afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza 19:04 magnuse hiya pianohacker 19:04 magnuse druthb! 19:04 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would. 19:05 * druthb snaps 19:05 magnuse oh noes! 19:44 cait1 @wunder konstanz 19:44 huginn cait1: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.8°C (9:40 PM CEST on April 01, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 19:44 cait1 @wunder bochum 19:44 huginn cait1: The current temperature in Bochum Weitmar, Bochum, Germany is 16.9°C (9:38 PM CEST on April 01, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 19:47 oleonard @wunder 45701 19:47 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is 24.0°C (3:35 PM EDT on April 01, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 18%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling). 19:47 bag magnuse: HI 19:47 wahanui hello, bag 19:48 oleonard Summer-like out there today 19:48 magnuse bag: HI 19:48 magnuse @wunder boo 19:48 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (9:20 PM CEST on April 01, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 19:48 bag @wunder 93102 19:48 huginn bag: The current temperature in Westside (Gillespie), Santa Barbara, California is 15.8°C (12:48 PM PDT on April 01, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 20:04 cait1 warm here too- hey fever is annoying 20:07 pianohacker cait1: hey fever? Can't stop saying "hey, listen"? 20:07 cait1 hay... 20:08 jcamins pianohacker: don't make it bad. 20:08 pianohacker hehehe 20:08 pianohacker cait++ 20:09 jcamins Look at that! A pop culture reference from me that *wasn't* to a Broadway musical. 20:12 cait1 pianohacker: where is my follow up? :P 20:12 oleonard Bye #koha 20:13 pianohacker oh! 10486! Coming, coming 20:43 nengard @later tell oleonard my css issue was with a comment - i used // instead of /* !!! 20:43 huginn nengard: The operation succeeded. 20:43 cait1 good night all 20:52 * wajasu starting to play with NYTprof for opac-search.pl to gather stats prior to adding zebra-based facets search 21:16 rangi morning 21:19 pianohacker yo rangi 21:31 bag cait1 21:31 bag bummer 21:31 bag heya pianohacker or rangi 21:32 pianohacker yo 21:32 bag maybe one of you two can help me out 21:32 bag usually I get cait to help me 21:32 bag so on a patch I've got a name in there that has an ü in it and I can't get the git-bz attach to go through 21:33 pianohacker bag: are you using -e ? 21:33 bag yes 21:33 bag so don't edit 21:33 bag and just do my changes in bugzilla 21:33 bag that sounds familar 21:33 bag thanks 21:34 pianohacker yeah, irritating bug, but the -e functionality is a little broken in general. 21:34 pianohacker so useful though... 21:57 eythian hi 21:57 pianohacker yo robin 21:58 rangi http://www.iii.com/polaris 22:00 bag heya eythian 22:00 wahanui eythian is great at jokes. That everyone else misses them isn't his problem. 22:01 bag and rangi that's not a april fools joke 22:01 pianohacker http://www.iii.com/polaris#questionone <-- I'm sure this will last 22:03 rangi yeah 22:03 rangi what is interesting to me 22:03 rangi is this 22:04 rangi http://www.alatechsource.org/blog/2014/04/innovative-interfaces-acquires-polaris-library-systems.html 22:04 rangi By the end of 2013, there were over 400 installations of Polaris serving 1,225 libraries representing a total of 2,811 branches. Innovative reports over 1,300 libraries using Millennium and 336 using Sierra. 22:04 rangi so yeah, even with the merge, there are still way more Koha libraries 22:04 rangi and that story never gets told 22:05 rangi we are thinking to do something to tell that story, some kinda infographic 22:06 liw rangi, if you do, ping me, I can blog to point at it (not that it does a lot of good, but...) 22:06 liw rangi, also, LWN might be willing to do another Koha story this decade? 22:07 rangi oh true, good points liw thanks 22:36 pianohacker screw it, I'm just going to spam this link: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/70308014/kings-assembly-a-computer-mouse-full-of-awesome 22:37 rangi heh its not like it needs more backers :) 22:38 cjh pianohacker: very cool 22:38 pianohacker yeah, I know, I just think it's super cool 22:38 pianohacker oh hi cjh :) 22:39 cjh little concerned about how far the hands have to reach to hit the keys 22:40 pianohacker yeah, I'd want it more for gaming/cad work than programming 22:41 cjh for me resting the palm while stretching like that is a huge trigger for rsi/oos, it is an interesting product. 22:42 pianohacker cjh: ah, kk. What is your daily keyboard, out of curiosity? 22:42 cjh kinesis advantage, but i can't use the palm rests while typing. 22:43 pianohacker ah, right 22:44 cjh pianohacker: is your ergodox in daily usage ? 22:45 pianohacker cjh: yup! Quite liking it so far, fingers are slowly getting used to it. Plus, now that I have NKRO, I'm learning plover 22:45 pianohacker awesome device 22:46 bag @pianohacker++ 22:46 huginn bag: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 22:46 bag just freaking cool man 22:46 bag pianohacker++ 22:46 bag heh 22:46 pianohacker bag: We need to fix bwsbot. And thanks! 23:05 bag hey eythian for the sources.list on packages - is it only for squeeze or is there a wheezy yet? 23:05 eythian the squeeze one works fine on wheezy. 23:05 bag thanks much 23:05 bag eythian++ 23:05 eythian I've been meaning to make one called wheezy that is just symlinked to the squeeze one. 23:06 bag HA 23:06 bag I guess so 23:06 eythian that means that if they ever need different builds, that can be done too. 23:07 bag I guess it would be a good time to start that - no difference really though 23:08 eythian yeah, I'd try hard to make the same one work on all platforms, it'd save a lot of hassle. But there's no guarantee that it'll be possible in the future. 23:08 bag yeah 23:25 pianohacker bye