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bgkriegel |
Hi #koha |
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* mtj |
waves to bernardo :) |
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eythian |
hey, anyone know how to make it so that a hold can be applied to a biblio that has no items? |
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mtj |
eythian, that might be impossible, even ? :/ |
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eythian |
I'd be surprised, but at the same time I can't find any obvious syspref for it. |
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mtj |
i was expecting some 'print $error if $items == 0' situation |
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oleonard |
Hi again #koha |
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eythian |
hi oleonard. |
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eythian |
oleonard: you may know: <eythian> hey, anyone know how to make it so that a hold can be applied to a biblio that has no items? |
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oleonard |
As far as I know you can't. There has to be an item. |
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oleonard |
We have to add dummy items to on-order titles just so that holds can be placed on them before the actual items arrive. |
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eythian |
OK |
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edveal |
hi #koha |
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edveal |
the general meeting is at the top of the hour right? |
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* oleonard |
believes so |
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edveal |
Just checking, thanks oleonard |
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* oleonard |
scolds cait and sends her back to bed |
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cait |
hm? |
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oleonard |
cait it's past your bedtime! |
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BobB_ |
hello |
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cait |
iam just upearly |
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joels68 |
Hello everyone |
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eythian |
cait: didn't you just go to bed about 15 minutes ago? |
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gmcharlt |
howdy |
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BobB_ |
hi joels68 |
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gmcharlt |
who is running this meeting? |
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* edveal |
not it |
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* cait |
suggests someone who is more awake |
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oleonard |
Smeller's the feller. |
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gmcharlt |
I'll do it, then |
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gmcharlt |
#startmeeting General IRC meeting, 6 November 2013 |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed Nov 6 02:02:40 2013 UTC. The chair is gmcharlt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 6 November 2013) |
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huginn |
The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting__6_november_2013' |
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gmcharlt |
#info Agenda is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…],_6_November_2013 |
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gmcharlt |
#topic Introductions |
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wahanui |
#info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 6 November 2013) |
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BobB_ |
Bob Birchall, Calyx Australia |
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gmcharlt |
#info gmcharlt = Galen Charton, Equinox Software, Inc. |
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BobB_ |
sorry |
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cait |
#info Katrin Fischer, BSZ Germany |
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bgkriegel |
#info Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel, Córdoba Argentina |
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edveal |
#info Ed Veal w/ ByWater Solutions |
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BobB_ |
#info Bob Birchall, Calyx Australia |
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rhcl |
#info rhcl = Greg Lawson, Rolling Hills Consolidated Library |
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eythian |
#info Robin Sheat, Catalyst IT |
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oleonard |
#info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries |
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joels68 |
#info Joel Sasse Plum Creek Library System MN USA |
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khall |
#info Kyle Hall, ByWater Solutions |
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mtj |
#info, Mason James, NZ |
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gmcharlt |
ok - latecomers can continue to introduce themselves |
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gmcharlt |
#topic Announcement |
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Topic for #koha is now Announcement (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 6 November 2013) |
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clintD |
#info clintD |
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gmcharlt |
#info 3.14 beta is out; folks are encouraged to test |
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gmcharlt |
any other announcements? |
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davidnind |
#info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand |
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gmcharlt |
going once |
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gmcharlt |
going twice |
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gmcharlt |
#topic Update on Koha 3.8 |
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Topic for #koha is now Update on Koha 3.8 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 6 November 2013) |
| 02:09 |
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gmcharlt |
#info Koha 3.8.19 was released on 29 October 2013 |
| 02:09 |
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gmcharlt |
clrh_: around? any further update? |
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BobB_ |
#info there is a volunteer to continue as RMaint for 3.8 |
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cait |
cjh: ? |
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gmcharlt |
cait++ # oops |
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gmcharlt |
BobB_: not officially, yet. Paul A. has discussed doing so on koha-devel but has not to date put his name on the wiki |
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cjh |
cait: I am not yet sure if I will continue on as rmaint. |
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BobB_ |
ok |
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gmcharlt |
OK, moving on |
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gmcharlt |
#topic Update on 3.10 |
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Topic for #koha is now Update on 3.10 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 6 November 2013) |
| 02:12 |
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bgkriegel |
All well on 3.10, no news. Last release a litle bit late, waiting for 3.12 |
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gmcharlt |
bgkriegel++ |
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gmcharlt |
charging forward |
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gmcharlt |
#topic Update on 3.12 |
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Topic for #koha is now Update on 3.12 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 6 November 2013) |
| 02:13 |
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Bruce_ |
#info Bruce Metcalf, Augustan Society |
| 02:13 |
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gmcharlt |
#info 3.12.6 released on 28 October 2013 |
| 02:13 |
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gmcharlt |
I don't see tcohen here, so moving on |
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gmcharlt |
#topic Update on 3.14 |
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Topic for #koha is now Update on 3.14 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 6 November 2013) |
| 02:13 |
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gmcharlt |
#info 3.14 beta is available for testing |
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cait |
gmcharlt++ |
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bgkriegel |
gmcharlt++ |
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gmcharlt |
#action All the people will test the beta |
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joels68 |
#agreed |
| 02:15 |
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gmcharlt |
#info gmcharlt will branch 3.14.x later this week, thereby allowing enhancements to continue to go into master |
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gmcharlt |
any questions for me? |
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bgkriegel |
no more string changes? |
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gmcharlt |
bgkriegel: no more string changes for 3.14.x, correct |
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bgkriegel |
ok then |
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drojf |
good morning #koha |
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gmcharlt |
bgkriegel: will there be any problem for you to switch branches from master to 3.14.x for Pootle? |
| 02:17 |
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bgkriegel |
not at all |
| 02:17 |
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gmcharlt |
great |
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cait |
bgkriegel++ :) |
| 02:17 |
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drojf |
#info Mirko Tietgen, Berlin, late |
| 02:18 |
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gmcharlt |
ok, moving on |
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gmcharlt |
#topic Elections for 3.16 |
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Topic for #koha is now Elections for 3.16 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 6 November 2013) |
| 02:18 |
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gmcharlt |
#info List of roles and candidates proposed for 3.16 is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Roles_for_3.16 |
| 02:19 |
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gmcharlt |
OK, so, I guess let's do this |
| 02:19 |
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gmcharlt |
I'll start from the bottom of the page up |
| 02:19 |
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gmcharlt |
so, Chad Roseburg has volunteered to be Newletter Editor, and Joanne Dillon has volunteered to assist |
| 02:20 |
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gmcharlt |
floor is open: please indicate your position with +1, 0, or -1 |
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oleonard |
+1 |
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davidnind |
+1 |
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cait |
+1 |
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drojf |
+1 |
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bgkriegel |
+1 |
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khall |
+1 |
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Bruce_ |
0 |
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eythian |
+1 |
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edveal |
+1 |
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joels68 |
+1 |
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BobB_ |
+1 |
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clintD |
+1 |
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gmcharlt |
+1 |
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gmcharlt |
#agreed Chad Roseburg is elected Newsletter Editor, with Joanne Dillon assisting |
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gmcharlt |
next up |
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gmcharlt |
Samuell Dasseaux has volunteered to be a meeting chair |
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gmcharlt |
he's located in France, so presumably will cover the UTC+10:00 timeslot |
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gmcharlt |
floor is open for voting |
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oleonard |
+1 |
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davidnind |
+1 |
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bgkriegel |
+1 |
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edveal |
+1 |
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joels68 |
+1 |
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BobB_ |
+1 |
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oleonard |
JDatTeTakere you just missed being elected official assistant to the newsletter editor |
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khall |
+1 |
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drojf |
+1 |
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cait |
+1 |
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oleonard |
It was a glorious victory |
| 02:23 |
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gmcharlt |
+1 |
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BobB_ |
:) |
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gmcharlt |
#agreed Samuel Desseaux elected as a meeting chair |
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gmcharlt |
next up, bug wranglers |
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gmcharlt |
Joanne Dillon and Chris Cormack have volunteered to serve in this capacity |
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gmcharlt |
floor is open for voting |
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oleonard |
+1 |
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khall |
+1 |
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drojf |
+1 |
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edveal |
+1 |
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eythian |
+1 |
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davidnind |
+1 |
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bgkriegel |
+1 |
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cait |
+1 |
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joels68 |
+1 |
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BobB_ |
+1 |
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BobB_ |
#idea Is there any controversy about any nomination? Should we take them as a set? |
| 02:24 |
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gmcharlt |
BobB_: good question, hold on a second |
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gmcharlt |
#agreed Joanne Dillon and Chris Cormack elected as bug wrangler |
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* oleonard |
votes for all the things |
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khall |
we could vote on voting for the set |
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gmcharlt |
OK, adopting BobB_'s idea, I'll put the question |
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gmcharlt |
+1, 0, or -1 for adopting the remaining project position proposals as per http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]i/Roles_for_3.16? |
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khall |
+1 |
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joels68 |
+1 |
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edveal |
+1 |
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BobB_ |
+1 |
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Bruce_ |
+1 |
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oleonard |
+1 |
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davidnind |
+1 |
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bgkriegel |
+1 |
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cait |
+1 |
| 02:26 |
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eythian |
+1 |
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drojf |
+1 |
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gmcharlt |
+1 |
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* gmcharlt |
will hold the floor open for two more minutes in case anybody wants to express an objection |
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gmcharlt |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Obmnz_1hZk |
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cait |
:) |
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gmcharlt |
OK, the two minutes are up, so I'm calling the result |
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oleonard |
For thornier issues there's this version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTyN-vvFIkE |
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gmcharlt |
please bear with me as I do a bunch of #agreeds |
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gmcharlt |
#agreed Samuel Desseaux elected as VM manager |
| 02:30 |
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gmcharlt |
#agreed Robin Sheat elected as packaging manager |
| 02:30 |
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gmcharlt |
#agreed Jared Camins-Esakov elected as module maintainer for authorities |
| 02:30 |
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gmcharlt |
#agreed Kyle Hall elected as module maintainer for holds |
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gmcharlt |
#agreed Tomas Cohen Arazi elected as module maintainer for the Debian scripts |
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gmcharlt |
#aggree Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel elected as release maintainer for 3.10.x |
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gmcharlt |
#agreed Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel elected as release maintainer for 3.10.x |
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gmcharlt |
#agreed Tomas Cohen Arazi elected as release maintainer for 3.12.x |
| 02:31 |
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gmcharlt |
#agreed Fridolyn Somers elected as release maintainer for 3.14.x |
| 02:32 |
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gmcharlt |
#agreed Ruth Bavousett, Kyle Hall, Paul Polain, Martin Renvoize, Marcel de Rooy, and Jonathan Druart elected as members of the QA team |
| 02:32 |
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gmcharlt |
#agreed Katrin Fischer elected as QA manager |
| 02:32 |
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gmcharlt |
#agreed Joy Nelson elected as database documentation manger, with Samuel Desseaux assisting |
| 02:33 |
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gmcharlt |
#agreed Nicole Engard elected as documentation manager |
| 02:33 |
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gmcharlt |
#agreed Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel elected as translation manager |
| 02:33 |
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gmcharlt |
#agreed Galen Charlton elected as release manager |
| 02:33 |
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cait |
gmcharlt++ :) |
| 02:34 |
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gmcharlt |
my fingers have now filed a petition to secede from the union |
| 02:34 |
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gmcharlt |
;) |
| 02:34 |
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khall |
indeed! |
| 02:34 |
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BobB_ |
congratulations to everyone on that list :) |
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oleonard |
Especially those who hold office for the first time! Welcome! |
| 02:35 |
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gmcharlt |
the position of 3.8.x release maintainer is unfilled. given that there is some interest from folks to continue that branch, I propose that we postpone the question of whether to fill that role to the December IRC meeting |
| 02:35 |
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cait |
+1 |
| 02:35 |
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BobB_ |
+1 |
| 02:35 |
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joels68 |
+1 |
| 02:36 |
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Bruce_ |
+1 |
| 02:36 |
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oleonard |
+1 |
| 02:36 |
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crose |
Hello, this is chad roseburg. I missed the voting, but am here to discuss the fate of the newsletter if anyone is interested |
| 02:36 |
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drojf |
+1 |
| 02:36 |
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khall |
+1 |
| 02:36 |
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davidnind |
+1 |
| 02:36 |
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bgkriegel |
+1 |
| 02:36 |
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gmcharlt |
crose: your election as newsletter editor has been confirmed, by the way |
| 02:36 |
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BobB_ |
crose, you have been elected Newsletter editor, congratulations! |
| 02:36 |
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cait |
congrats :) |
| 02:37 |
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joels68 |
Here here!! |
| 02:37 |
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crose |
Sounds good. I'm looking forward to it. Thanks! |
| 02:37 |
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BobB_ |
and you have an assistant - JD from NZ |
| 02:37 |
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gmcharlt |
#agreed whether to continue the 3.8.x branch and elected an rmaint for it to be decided by the December IRC meeting |
| 02:37 |
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crose |
Glad to have help. I have a baby on the way any day now |
| 02:37 |
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cait |
congrats again :) |
| 02:38 |
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gmcharlt |
crose++ # increaing the number of future Koha hackers ;) |
| 02:38 |
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crose |
Thanks |
| 02:38 |
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crose |
And hack we will |
| 02:38 |
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oleonard |
We need a gallery of Koha babies somewhere. |
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gmcharlt |
#topic Debrief on KohaCon 13 |
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Topic for #koha is now Debrief on KohaCon 13 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 6 November 2013) |
| 02:39 |
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crose |
Where can I get an infant sized koha onesie? |
| 02:39 |
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khall |
congrats! |
| 02:40 |
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gmcharlt |
crose: via CafePress, actually |
| 02:40 |
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crose |
Ok thanks |
| 02:40 |
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oleonard |
Didn't bag show off one? |
| 02:40 |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: now that you mention it, I think so |
| 02:40 |
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cait |
future koha developer |
| 02:40 |
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* oleonard |
does not mean to imply that bag himself modeled the onesie |
| 02:40 |
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cait |
heh |
| 02:40 |
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BobB_ |
lol |
| 02:41 |
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khall |
lol |
| 02:41 |
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gmcharlt |
as far as the conference goes, first, I'd like to extend kudos to Nancy Keener and the rest of the folks at the Washcoe County Library for doing a wonderful job |
| 02:41 |
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cait |
:) |
| 02:41 |
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BobB_ |
here, here, very well done |
| 02:41 |
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cait |
+1! |
| 02:41 |
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oleonard |
Many many thanks go to them |
| 02:41 |
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Bruce_ |
+1 |
| 02:41 |
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rhcl |
+1 |
| 02:41 |
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gmcharlt |
er, Washoe County |
| 02:41 |
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khall |
+2 even! |
| 02:41 |
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joels68 |
Jolly good show! +1 |
| 02:41 |
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davidnind |
+1 |
| 02:42 |
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gmcharlt |
#agreed the community thanks Nancy Keener and the other staff at the Washoe County Library system for hosting KohaCon13 |
| 02:42 |
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Bruce_ |
I have to expand: this was the most helpful and successful conference I've ever had the privilege to take part in, and I've attended plenty. |
| 02:42 |
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gmcharlt |
and kudos to all of the other folks who volunteered for the conference |
| 02:42 |
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cait |
it was great. |
| 02:43 |
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BobB_ |
many kittens were saved |
| 02:43 |
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gmcharlt |
any other comments regarding KohaCon 13? |
| 02:43 |
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rhcl |
amenities (snacks) were good |
| 02:44 |
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Bruce_ |
As a first-timer, I would respectfully suggest that the nature of the event might have been explained with a bit greater clarity. |
| 02:44 |
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BobB_ |
#info Daniel Grobani listed info sources in the last community newsletter - very helpful reference |
| 02:44 |
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Bruce_ |
Those who have attended before need only "KohaCon", others might need more. |
| 02:45 |
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oleonard |
Bruce_: Beyond the program listing? |
| 02:45 |
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drojf |
Bruce_: what would you have liked to know? |
| 02:45 |
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Bruce_ |
Yes. The program listing was fine, but I had no idea what level the hackfest would be conducted on. I was most happy to discover that I could contribute, but I almost left after Saturday. |
| 02:45 |
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talljoy |
#info Joy Nelson ByWater solutions |
| 02:46 |
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BobB_ |
Bruce_ : we are glad you did not :) |
| 02:46 |
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Bruce_ |
Me too. |
| 02:46 |
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gmcharlt |
indeed |
| 02:47 |
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Bruce_ |
I plan to give this question some thought and contact the hosts of KohaCon14 with my suggestions. |
| 02:47 |
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gmcharlt |
Bruce_++ |
| 02:47 |
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Bruce_ |
... assuming they don't call me first! |
| 02:47 |
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BobB_ |
Bruce_ ++ |
| 02:47 |
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gmcharlt |
also, a nice seque to ... |
| 02:47 |
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gmcharlt |
#topic KohaCon 14 and 15 |
| 02:47 |
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Topic for #koha is now KohaCon 14 and 15 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 6 November 2013) |
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bgkriegel |
We are beginning the organization and found raising (for KohaCon14) |
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Bruce_ |
Idea: Ask those who will not be able to attend to contribute an "absence fee" in an amount of their choosing. |
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BobB_ |
hmm, the idea has merit |
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bgkriegel |
Ok |
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Bruce_ |
Even a small amount sent by all those who *wish* they could attend might do wonders. |
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gmcharlt |
another idea, via feedback from KohaCon12 that I got from slef: consider offering an "enhanced ticket" as a way for libraries who want to sponsor, but who are not allowed to directly give funds for such a thing, to pay extra |
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eythian |
At a conference here, they call them high-rollers. |
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eythian |
They get better chairs :) |
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gmcharlt |
heh |
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BobB_ |
business class? |
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gmcharlt |
any other questions/comments for bgkriegel? |
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* talljoy |
just needs extra legroom |
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eythian |
* talljoy is now known as shortjoy |
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eythian |
fixed. |
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BobB_ |
bgkriegel, it will be good to set the date as soon as you can |
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gmcharlt |
reason #1 to avoid an outfit calling itself the Procrustean Hotel |
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rhcl |
yes indeed |
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bgkriegel |
Ok |
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gmcharlt |
regarding KohaCon 15 -- an observation: Africa is the one continent that has not yet hosted a KohaCon |
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gmcharlt |
(I'm making the wild assumption that an Antarctic one is never going to be practical any time soon) |
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gmcharlt |
so move on |
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BobB_ |
gmcharlt: I had to Google procrustean - very funny (and apt) |
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rhcl |
what about Asia, particularly the far east? |
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oleonard |
It was suggested that for KohaCon 15 the voting be limited to proposals from Africa. |
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gmcharlt |
rhcl: that's also a region not yet represented, but there was a KohaCon in India a couple years ago |
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BobB_ |
we can't mandate that, but the sentiment is out there |
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gmcharlt |
agreed, and one that I for one am inclined to reinforce |
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oleonard |
I would think we could vote on that proposal at some time in the future |
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gmcharlt |
indeed |
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Bruce_ |
Cons need hosts, and it may be that those most likely have little experience in organizing such events. Perhaps a group of former hosts could be formed as a support group? |
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gmcharlt |
Bruce_: yes; that has happened anyway; most/all of the KohaCons to date have had volunteer help from folks who were involved in previous ones |
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Bruce_ |
I'm sure that's so, but is that offer of help advertised? |
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BobB_ |
and two potential bidders (Nigeria and Zambia) were at KohaCon12, so know the format |
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gmcharlt |
yes -- and to be clear, there have already been viable bids from Africa; I don't think there are any particular reservations concerning that |
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gmcharlt |
#topic Action items from the October IRC meeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Action items from the October IRC meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 6 November 2013) |
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gmcharlt |
#info the one action item from the October IRC meeting, creating the 3.16 project roles wiki page, was completed by rangi |
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oleonard |
rangi++ |
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gmcharlt |
any last minute agenda items before we do the final one, setting the date of the next meeting? |
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edveal |
Should have done this at the top but I have a quick announcement. |
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* edveal |
and nengard created an XSLT Library page on the wiki. I have added a few snippets and I am sure the group can edit them and add to them. Just wanted to get the page up and running. |
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gmcharlt |
#info Announcement: edveal and nengard have created an XSLT library page on the wiki - http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/XSLT_Library |
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gmcharlt |
edveal++ |
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gmcharlt |
nengard++ |
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talljoy |
yay! |
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gmcharlt |
OK, moving on |
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gmcharlt |
#topic setting time of next meeting |
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Topic for #koha is now setting time of next meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 6 November 2013) |
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davidnind |
18:00 UTC is the next one up, 4 December? |
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gmcharlt |
we go 2-18-10? |
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cait1 |
we go backwards |
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gmcharlt |
ok |
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cait1 |
i think |
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gmcharlt |
cait1, that's consistent with the previous meeting |
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gmcharlt |
OK, so putting the question: shall the next metting be at 18:00 UTC on 4 December 2013? |
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davidnind |
+1 |
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Bruce_ |
+1 |
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BobB_ |
sounds right, but eek, it'll be 5am here |
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drojf |
+1 |
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edveal |
+1 |
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rhcl |
+1 |
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BobB_ |
+1 |
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drojf |
BobB_: it's 4am here now :P |
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bgkriegel |
+1 |
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joels68 |
+1 |
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talljoy |
+1 |
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oleonard |
+1 |
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BobB_ |
droif, point taken' |
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drojf |
:) |
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gmcharlt |
#agreed the next general IRC meeting will be held at 18:00 on 4 December 2013 |
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oleonard |
@later remind someone to change the topic to reflect the next meeting date and time |
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huginn |
oleonard: I suck |
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cait1 |
+1 |
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cait1 |
sorry, sleepy :) |
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khall |
+1 |
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gmcharlt |
OK, thanks everybody |
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gmcharlt |
#endmeeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.14-beta is available for download and testing. Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org. Next general IRC meeting 6th November, 02:00 UTC |
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huginn |
Meeting ended Wed Nov 6 03:06:53 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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huginn |
Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-11-06-02.02.html |
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huginn |
Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]3-11-06-02.02.txt |
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huginn |
Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]06-02.02.log.html |
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drojf |
gmcharlt++ |
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BobB_ |
thanks gmcharlt, thanks everyone |
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cait1 |
gmcharlt++ |
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cait1 |
and good night :) |
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davidnind |
gmcharlt++ |
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bgkriegel |
gmcharlt++ |
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* edveal |
waves by to everyone. |
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joels68 |
khall got a minute? |
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talljoy |
night night |
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* oleonard |
turns in |
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khall |
good morning, afternoon and night all! |
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Bruce_ |
ttfn |
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joels68 |
Hi BobB |
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joels68 |
bye. |
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jcamins |
eythian: I am now, for a few minutes. |
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eythian |
just looking at the patches to csvtomarc from you, you add a 'text' source. Does it differ from the 'literal' one that already exists? |
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jcamins |
Lemme check. |
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jcamins |
Doesn't look like it's different. |
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eythian |
OK cool. |
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eythian |
I'll have a go integrating some of them, though I think you were writing agaisnt a fairly old version, so we'll see how it goes. |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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eythian |
I really want the fixed-field support. |
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bag |
darn missed the meeting eh? |
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eythian |
yarp |
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bag |
well I meant to volunteer to QAA again - just added my name to the wiki page - but will be happy to QA a few patches again |
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bag |
started late in the last cycle - but will be better this next time :) |
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bag |
ah nice Aloo has finally cuddled up next to me on the couch |
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bag |
heya cait |
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cait |
hi ba |
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cait |
bag |
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cait |
sorry, still sleepy |
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bag |
well I'm getting sleepy but not yet |
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rangi |
evening |
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bag |
evening rangi |
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cait |
hi rangi |
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reiveune |
hello |
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rangi |
hi reiveune |
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reiveune |
hi rangi :) |
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mtj |
hey peeps |
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mtj |
rangi, are you gonna go to kiwicon this weekend? |
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samueld |
hi everybody |
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mtj |
hi samueld |
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rangi |
yup |
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cait |
hi samueld |
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mtj |
cool, me too :p (my 1st time) |
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rangi |
you'll enjoy it |
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rangi |
just dont bring a laptop that you havent nailed down ;-) |
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mtj |
ha!..., yeah i heard |
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mtj |
hermm. i *think* my laptop is nailed down :) |
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mtj |
...tho, i might discover otherwise :/ |
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rangi |
i never take mine |
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rangi |
you dont need it |
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mtj |
good advice |
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cait |
pen and paper then? :) |
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mtj |
inside palm |
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mtj |
heh, not to be confused with one's 'outside palm' :) |
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rangi |
:) |
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cait |
brb |
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waves |
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magnuse |
kia ora kf |
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magnuse |
kia ora paul_p |
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kf |
hi magnuse and paul_p |
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* magnuse |
missed the meeting, again |
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paul_p |
good morning/evening/afternoon/whatever everybody |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 16.0°C (9:30 AM CET on November 06, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
nice |
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ashimema |
morning paul |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (9:50 AM CET on November 06, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.21 in 989 hPa (Rising). |
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kf |
magnuse: we made you rm |
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paul_p |
magnuse I confirm : very nice and sunny weather today ;-) |
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paul_p |
kf really ? congrats magnuse :D :D |
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magnuse |
woohoo! |
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paul_p |
kf or do you mean rm -fr magnuse ? which would not be a good news ;-) |
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* magnuse |
is instantly drunk with power |
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kf |
magnuse: no we didn't - hope i didn't send oyu into shock |
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paul_p |
magnuse "with great power comes great responsibilities" said spiderman uncle ! |
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* magnuse |
read the minutes this morning ;-) |
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magnuse |
yeah, too much responsibility, i'll pass ;-) |
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kivilahtio |
wow my zebra doesn't index |
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kivilahtio |
It ran out of idex memory |
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kivilahtio |
12:43:01-06/11 zebraidx(27798) [fatal] mf_write: recdB error (4) no more space |
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kivilahtio |
12:43:01-06/11 zebraidx(27798) [fatal] /var/lib/koha/openlibrary/biblios/register: max=21474836480 used=21474834528 available=1952 |
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kivilahtio |
Increased both biblio and shadow registers from 20G to 25G |
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kivilahtio |
doing a full reindex |
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kivilahtio |
hope it helps |
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magnuse |
fingers crossed! |
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kivilahtio |
strange thing is that i got the memory limit on my n:th reindex_zebra.pl query |
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kivilahtio |
lol It took me 1h to send email with Koha vs 1 week for Evergreen |
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kf |
1 week? |
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kivilahtio |
kf: not sure if it was ctive work, but this seems to have been the case with our Evergreen efforts |
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kivilahtio |
kf: I didn't do those things with Evergreen |
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kivilahtio |
kf: so I wouldn't know 100% but my experience has been very negative. |
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kivilahtio |
kf: I think it included getting to know the system and configuring some email servers, but I did the same with Koha so... |
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kivilahtio |
now to crack the SMS and snailmail from email nuts |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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kf |
hi marcelr |
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kf |
kivilahtio: sorry, quite busy here - might always take a while for me to read back these days |
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marcelr |
hi kf |
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marcelr |
kf: we will have another six months of qa.. |
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marcelr |
:) |
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kf |
yeah... why did we agree to that again? :) |
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marcelr |
no idea |
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gmcharlt |
and more after that six months has expired, I hope ;) |
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marcelr |
probably |
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kivilahtio |
any suggestions how I should make a HTTP-request from a Perl module? |
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kivilahtio |
I am working to integrate our SMS provider to Koha |
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kivilahtio |
they provide a SMS-gateway with some nice things, like sms-delivery checks |
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kivilahtio |
any ideas does Koha use some preset packages so I wouldnt have to add yet another dependecy |
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kivilahtio |
Well LWP::Simple seems to be in Koha already |
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kivilahtio |
so I think I got the answer already :) |
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marcelr |
grep -r SMS * |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: If you are interested by sending SMS in Koha, maybe you will be interested by bug 9016 (and others linked). |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9016 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Multi transport types for notices |
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tcohen |
morning #koha |
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jcamins |
kivilahtio: I always give at least 40GB for both biblio and shadow. |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: yikes |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: I fixed a "small" bug in our data migration toolset and we got all of our child records with the migration. DB jumped from 350 000 to 1 100 000 records :) |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: interesting |
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wahanui |
well, interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
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jcamins |
kivilahtio: with 1.1m records I'd probably go up to 100G. |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: you think Zebra really needs so much space? |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: I thought we could squeeze our DB smaller with Koha :( |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: can we run it from RAM? |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: this 100G is just for indexes or? |
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jcamins |
Probably not, but disk space is cheap, and the worst feeling ever is when you get 90% of the way through a reindex only to have it run out of space; and no, the indexes need to be stored somewhere no matter what system. |
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jcamins |
If you had enough RAM you could use a ramdisk. |
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tcohen |
Buy SSD disks for your server |
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kivilahtio |
tcohen: Already using |
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kivilahtio |
tcohen: couldn't live without :) |
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kivilahtio |
tcohen: And I feelthis might solve the zebra-issue |
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kivilahtio |
somehow zebra searches are still super fast |
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jcamins |
Oh, Zebra's very fast. |
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tcohen |
icu? |
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wahanui |
somebody said icu was a good idea. |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: This looks pretty awesome! We need things like these definetely. |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: We have the need to create a 2€ notification fine for letter1 letter2 letter3. |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: I guess I could add your module as a dependency for it |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: now that I am working on this notifications issue |
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kf |
gmcharlt: about the translation problem - it's only in CCSR i think |
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kf |
gmcharlt: so not sure if it's worth investing a lot of thought here if Owen didn't do something like it (which i doubt :) ) |
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gmcharlt |
kf: there are a few uses of content: in prog and Bootstrap, but at first glance not for strings that need to be translated |
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gmcharlt |
I was just being through in my response :) |
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kf |
yep :) |
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kf |
and i appreciate translation problem taken seriously :) |
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kf |
we never introduced ccsr templates to our libraries here, so we kind of avoided running into that |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #104 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #98 29 days ago) |
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samueld |
hi, i've forgotten something: how to apply manually a patch in koha? |
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tcohen |
samueld: are talking about a production server? |
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tcohen |
if you're talking about git it must be something like |
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tcohen |
git am -3 -u patch |
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samueld |
it's apatch on bugzilla |
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samueld |
a patch |
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tcohen |
and where do u want to apply it? |
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tcohen |
a git repository clone? |
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tcohen |
git bz apply XXX |
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samueld |
ok, i'll test |
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tcohen |
git bz? |
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wahanui |
i heard git bz was so much fun :) or http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration or just about anything except intuitive or AMAZING and WONDERFUL |
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tcohen |
is fridolyn here? |
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jenkins_koha |
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jenkins_koha |
* Kyle M Hall: Bug 9531: Make SIP2 message terminator configurable via SIPconfig.xml |
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jenkins_koha |
* Janusz Kaczmarek: Bug 10331 - Little errors in unimarc_field_4XX.pl (punctuation) |
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jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10564 - use OPACURLOpenInNewWindow in UNIMARCslim2OPACResults.xsl |
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jenkins_koha |
* Colin Campbell: Bug 10817: return hold items info in SIP Patron Info Response |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9531 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Make SIP2 message terminator configurable via SIPconfig.xml |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10331 trivial, P5 - low, ---, januszop, Pushed to Stable , Little errors in unimarc_field_4XX.pl (punctuation) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10564 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , use OPACURLOpenInNewWindow in UNIMARCslim2OPACResults.xsl |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10817 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , SIPserver does not return holds info when requested |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11204: make pendingreserves use datatables.inc <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d8cd28316e929a027> |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #212 for job master_maria (previous build: FIXED) |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1498 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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banana |
If anybody gives a hoot, the newest version of Freenas is pretty cool. A NAS box based on it would make a good Koha data backup/storage unit. |
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tcohen |
back online |
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mtompset |
Greetings, tcohen. :) |
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tcohen |
hi! |
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mtompset |
Question: Does the date displayed in OPAC News annoy you? Does it even make sense to display it all the time? |
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jenkins_koha |
Project master_maria build #212: SUCCESS in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/212/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Jonathan Druart: Bug 11204: make pendingreserves use datatables.inc |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11204 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , pendingreserves should use datatables.inc |
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tcohen |
rangi: is it possible to restore a 3.12.x DB for jenkins 3.12 build? |
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kf |
oh no oleonard |
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kf |
mtompset: if it annoys a library i use css on that :) |
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kf |
display:none |
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wahanui |
somebody said display:none was usually what is used. Where's that from? |
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mtompset |
kf: But what if it is only annoying for SOME of them? |
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talljoy |
morning #koha |
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kf |
then you might want to rethink how you are using them? |
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mtompset |
Perhaps. I was thinking of using News items for publishing Library Hours. |
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mtompset |
I suppose you can say when the library hours were published. |
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kf |
you could use the mainuserblock for that |
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mtompset |
but filter mainuserblock for branches doesn't make as much sense as filtering news by branch. :) |
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kf |
if you care deeply about it you could add a checkbox to display the date -but maybe just hide it and add it to the news entry if you need it? |
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kf |
Joubu++ :) and ashimema++ too |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1498: SUCCESS in 1 hr 55 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1498/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Jonathan Druart: Bug 11204: make pendingreserves use datatables.inc |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11204 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , pendingreserves should use datatables.inc |
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Starting build #105 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #98 29 days ago) |
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rangi |
@later tell tcohen not easily no, what you could do is get bgkriegels node set up to run that, and put the job to run on there, I won't have time to do that this week |
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huginn |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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* Bruce_ |
waves hello |
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Bruce_ |
I have a wee SQL challenge, if someone feels inclined to assist. |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.12.x build #105: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/105/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10718: fix items with no checkouts report |
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jenkins_koha |
* Magnus Enger: Bug 10810 - Fix synopsis for -html option to overdue_notices.pl |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10718 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , items with no checkouts report does not work |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10810 trivial, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Stable , Fix synopsis for -html option to overdue_notices.pl |
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Bruce_ |
A Director has asked me for a list of our few most valuable books. I do have "replacment cost" entered for most, but could neither find a report on the web that included that, nor something that looked like I could adapt it. Might someone suggest a URL which could be of help to me? |
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reiveune |
bye |
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* magnuse |
pokes a finger into the ribs of bug 6554 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6554 critical, P3, ---, ketan, Failed QA , Resolve encoding problems with corrected UTF8 handling in templates |
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magnuse |
anyone feeling like fixing the encoding problems before our pi hits the streets? |
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rangi |
not that way, no |
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rangi |
cos all those patches just make it worse |
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magnuse |
ah, there is a better way? |
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rangi |
@later tell Bruce_ you want to include the items.replacementprice column |
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huginn |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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rangi |
magnuse: much better, find where the non utf8 characters are sneaking in, and fix it there |
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rangi |
we should never be trying to encode/decode in the pl scripts |
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magnuse |
rangi: i think you had some idea about that before kohacon? |
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rangi |
because if your are actually using utf8 all those patches do is double encode |
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rangi |
they only work if you have non utf-8 data |
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magnuse |
yeah, we don't want that :-) |
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magnuse |
but fixing it at the source will mean we will have double encoding in some places, i guess? |
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rangi |
what we want is to only store utf8 |
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magnuse |
btw, i was working with the fine folks at opl on monday and tuesday, and we had a weird encoding problem |
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rangi |
not munge it on output |
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magnuse |
3 of the tabs showing sysprefs were showing norwegian wovels weirdly |
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rangi |
theres lots of munge on output bandaids |
| 19:10 |
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magnuse |
yeah |
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rangi |
that result in exactly those issues |
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magnuse |
so we need to fix it at the source and then weed out the bandaids? |
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rangi |
thats my plan |
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magnuse |
ooh you have a plan? :-) |
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magnuse |
does the plan come with a timeframe? ;-) |
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rangi |
not much beyond that, the hard thing is spotting what the encoding is, on input and making sure we dont store crud |
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magnuse |
kill all the crud! |
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magnuse |
the problem we saw was ok on debian, both master and 3.12.6, and it was ok with master on ubuntu, at least for me. when i checked out 3.12.6, i could reproduce it. but for petter i think master was broken on ubuntu too |
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magnuse |
it looked like it might have something to do with versions of YAML.pm or something related to that |
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magnuse |
what happened was that the contents of the YAML files generated by installing a translation were different |
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rangi |
hmm interesting |
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wahanui |
interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
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rangi |
it could be locales |
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magnuse |
the bad ones had unquoted strings and showed norwegian vowels directly, the ok ones had quoted strings and showed norwegian vowels as um, something involving {} i think it was |
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rangi |
ie if you run the translate scripts on a machine not set up with a utf8 |
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rangi |
maybe you get iso files |
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rangi |
not utf8 ones |
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magnuse |
but for me it changed between master and the 3.12.x branch |
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magnuse |
...too |
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* magnuse |
waves to cait |
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rangi |
interesting |
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wahanui |
i heard interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad |
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rangi |
yeah, encoding ones are hard to track down, because so many variables |
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magnuse |
we didn't have the time to really get to the bottom of it |
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magnuse |
yeah |
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* magnuse |
hates encoding problems |
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* cait |
waves |
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magnuse |
debian did not seem to have the problem, and the version of YAML there was older than on ubuntu |
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rangi |
that should be testable |
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rangi |
by cpanning on a newer version |
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rangi |
then removing it again |
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bag |
heya magnuse and cait |
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bag |
oh yeah rangi too :P |
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magnuse |
yeah, i thought about writing a minimal test case thinger, but didn't get around to it |
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magnuse |
hiya bag! |
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bag |
how's the boy doing magnuse |
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bag |
err girl (if I didn't remember correctly) |
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magnuse |
bag: apart from a broken thighbone, *he's* doing fine ;-) |
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cait |
heh |
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bag |
wow broken thighbone - poor little guy |
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bag |
climbing on something and fall off? |
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magnuse |
nah, being carried by his mother, who fell on some slippery stairs |
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magnuse |
oops, that's him, gotta run |
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bag |
oh man poor mommy too |
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bag |
hey cait - I'd like to volunteer to do QAA again for 3.16 (that's if you'll have me again) I was thinking that I will add that to the next general meeting agenda - so that we could get a vote on it |
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cait |
bag: that's exactly what i wanted to say to you too :) |
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cait |
so of course and yep |
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bag |
cool thanks as always cait |
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cait |
you just volunteered... so i should say thank you :) |
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maximep |
starting to work on bug 6934. I wonder if I should transform that new report into a plugin |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6934 enhancement, P3, ---, pelletiermaxime, ASSIGNED , New report Cash Register Statistics |
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maximep |
I guess plugins won't make it into the core, but probably easier to maintain |
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banana |
@seen jcamins |
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huginn |
banana: jcamins was last seen in #koha 6 hours, 14 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <jcamins> Oh, Zebra's very fast. |
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mtompset |
Anyone here familiar with gitolite? |
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marjorie |
Hi, i think that we can not make partial writeoff? Is there already a demand for it on bz ? |
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cait |
hi marjorie |
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cait |
i think there is no report yet |
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marjorie |
i think too, i did not found a bug on bz but i wanted to be sure |
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cait |
you should file one :) |
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pianohacker |
$ git vim |
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marjorie |
yes i do! thanks cait! |
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pianohacker |
git: 'vim' is not a git command |
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pianohacker |
derp |
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rambuten |
@later tell wizzyrea Big article in Computers in Libraries by NEKLS/Robin Hastings about a big Kansas digital project |
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huginn |
rambuten: The operation succeeded. |
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rambuten |
@later tell wizzyrea cf Kete, DSpace and Omeka. They chose Omeka. |
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huginn |
rambuten: The operation succeeded. |
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eythian |
hi |
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rambuten |
In other news of the day... |
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rambuten |
It's in the current issue of Computers in Libraries....just came in today |
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pianohacker |
wow |
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pianohacker |
shame = sqrt(-0) |
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eythian |
0? |
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pianohacker |
eythian: I was going for an imaginary 0, but stretching the math a bit :) |
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tcohen |
hi #koha |
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tcohen |
hi rangi |
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bag |
heya tcohen |
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tcohen |
hi bag! |
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pianohacker |
hey tcohen |
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tcohen |
rangi, i've never set a jenkins node |
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tcohen |
is it idficult? |
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rangi |
not really, basically that machine has a user (jenkins) that jenkins connects with |
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rangi |
it just needs koha being set up on there with a 3.12.x database, and the rest can all be configured from within jenkins |
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tcohen |
and that Koha setup has some specific details ? |
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rangi |
not really it just needs to finish its install, and then all i need to know is where the koha-conf.xml is |
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rangi |
then jenkins does a git checkout, and runs all the tests using the koha-conf.xml |
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rangi |
ill just find sample config |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]nuous_Integration |
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rangi |
thats for the master branch |
| 22:20 |
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rangi |
so what jenkins does is ssh to a node, run up a java programme that then runs the commands you tell it to, and reports back |
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rangi |
so theres really nothing you have to install on the node, except an ssh key and java, (thats all done) |
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rangi |
and then the rest is specific to your project, so install a koha in this case (thats not finished) |
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rangi |
tcohen: does that make sense? |
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tcohen |
almost |
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tcohen |
:-D |
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rangi |
:) |
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tcohen |
so I fire a VM, with java installed and a jenkins user |
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rangi |
yep, so bgkriegel has one |
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rangi |
http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]omputer/Bernardo/ |
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rangi |
so if we get a 3.12.x on there, and then i can switch jenkins to run the 3.12.x job there instead |
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rangi |
its currently not doing much of anything |
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tcohen |
i'll ask him to let me access the server |
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rangi |
perfect |
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pianohacker |
cait: I had an idea about bug 8133 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8133 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , hourly loans doesn't know when library closed |
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poorguy |
hello, I'm trying to import patrons from csv, it works however when I visit patrons page, I see unicode chars corrupted. I'm using 3.12.06 and I've checked my database, patron names look ok there. |
| 22:36 |
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poorguy |
any my csv file is utf8 encoded |
| 22:36 |
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poorguy |
and* |
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cait |
pianohacker: sorry was afk - what's the idea? |
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pianohacker |
cait: np, know it's late for ya. I was thinking of taking out all the preliminary refactoring and putting it in it's own bug |
| 22:43 |
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pianohacker |
making 8133's patches more focused |
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rangi |
poorguy: hmm i havent seen that before, it sounds to me like the display is doing a double conversion |
| 22:45 |
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poorguy |
how can i prevent it from doing that? I think it's related to bug 6554 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6554 critical, P3, ---, ketan, Failed QA , Resolve encoding problems with corrected UTF8 handling in templates |
| 22:47 |
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rangi |
you probably cant, until that is fixed properly the fixes on that bug dont actually fix the problem |
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cait |
sounds good |
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cait |
pianohacker: |
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pianohacker |
cait: sweet, will do |
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pianohacker |
how are you doing? :) |
| 22:48 |
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cait |
well i don't know completely what it means... but splitting sounds good heh |
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cait |
bit tired |
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cait |
work is crazy |
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cait |
how are you doing? did the course work out where you missed the presentation? |
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* cait |
tries to remember it right |
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pianohacker |
cait: Yeah, my classmates were a bit grumpy with me, but they seemed okay and things apparently went well |
| 22:53 |
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pianohacker |
the only bad thing was that Tuesday, when I ended up with three tests in one day |
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cait |
ew |
| 22:55 |
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pianohacker |
yeah, not fun, though they all went decently. What do you have going on at work? |
| 22:56 |
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cait |
too much to start listing |
| 22:56 |
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cait |
i might not get sleep then :) |
| 22:56 |
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cait |
support, migrations, all that :) |
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poorguy |
yeah i've found the problem |
| 22:58 |
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cait |
poorguy: whatwas it? |
| 22:58 |
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poorguy |
if a patron category contains unicode characters |
| 22:59 |
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poorguy |
render fails |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
yeah we avoid that |
| 22:59 |
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poorguy |
i mean patron category description, not the patron category code |
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cait |
why do you have the description in your csv? |
| 23:04 |
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poorguy |
i dont have description in csv |
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poorguy |
i just define category code in csv |
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cait |
hmm |
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cait |
wonder if i ever tried that |
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cait |
i think by accident our usual import categories don't have umlauts |
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poorguy |
i'll show you on a demo page if you want |
| 23:06 |
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cait |
you shoud file a bug i think |
| 23:06 |
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poorguy |
https://demo-admin.calyx.net.au/ login with user: anne password: koha then click patrons |
| 23:07 |
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poorguy |
you should see Ç (which should be Ç) in alphabet |
| 23:07 |
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eythian |
that's definitely double encoding |
| 23:08 |
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poorguy |
should i update the bug 6554 ? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6554 critical, P3, ---, ketan, Failed QA , Resolve encoding problems with corrected UTF8 handling in templates |
| 23:09 |
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cait |
hm better file a separate bug with how to reproduce and link to it i think |
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poorguy |
ok |
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poorguy |
cait: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11212 |
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huginn |
Bug 11212: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Using non english characters in patron category description causes double encoding |
| 23:25 |
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cait |
cool thx |
| 23:31 |
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pianohacker |
kk. I missed the meeting, but where would I volunteer as a module maintainer for admin starting next release? |
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| 23:33 |
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cait |
pianohacker: i think put it on there - and I think we will have another vote at the next meeting |
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cait |
you will not be hte only one :) |
| 23:35 |
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pianohacker |
I'm not sure if I'll survive the _tremendous volume_ of patches to the admin interface, but I'm willing to try my best |
| 23:36 |
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cait |
there is a tremendous amount? |
| 23:37 |
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pianohacker |
massive sarcasm :) |
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* cait |
is translating |
