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PSC |
Assuming quote above is re; MARC? Anyone mind if I borrow quote to promote discussion on Hyperlink MOOC? |
| 00:02 |
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rambutan |
MARC sounds like a french name to me. We'd spell it Mark. |
| 00:03 |
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jcamins |
PSC: MARC21. |
| 00:04 |
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PSC |
Thanks @jcamins - ok to borrow? |
| 00:04 |
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jcamins |
Of course! |
| 00:05 |
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PSC |
Merci Beaucoup (just for rambutan) :) |
| 00:30 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
| 00:35 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, Is there a cronjob that needs to be set up for overdue notices? |
| 00:35 |
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eythian |
yes, otherwise they won't get sent |
| 00:37 |
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mtompset |
What's that job called? is it included by default in the packages? |
| 00:37 |
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eythian |
koha-foreach --enabled --email /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl -t |
| 00:37 |
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eythian |
yes |
| 00:40 |
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mtompset |
Ah okay. There it is. |
| 00:41 |
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mtompset |
So, the fact that our system isn't sending any is a configuration issue then? |
| 00:42 |
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mtompset |
You have to set overdue notice/status triggers? |
| 00:43 |
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eythian |
yeah, you need to set those |
| 00:43 |
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eythian |
also, you have email enabled? |
| 00:45 |
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mtompset |
Hmm... koha-list --noemail says our instance... That would be part of the problem. :) |
| 00:46 |
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eythian |
that'll do it |
| 00:48 |
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mtompset |
eythian++ # thanks for the pointers. |
| 00:49 |
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eythian |
np |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1497 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 01:53 |
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rangi |
https://twitter.com/Nikki_Macd[…]295757312/photo/1 thats about 80m from my house |
| 01:56 |
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joels68 |
rangi You've got seaside digs? |
| 01:56 |
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rangi |
closish, up the hill about 5-10 mins walk to the beach |
| 01:58 |
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rangi |
http://www.zoomin.co.nz/map/nz[…]ngton/owhiro+bay/ see bottom right, severn street, thats where i live |
| 01:59 |
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joels68 |
Wow. Are there any downsides at all to living in NZ? |
| 02:00 |
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rangi |
just the flight to get to and from really :-) |
| 02:00 |
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joels68 |
Seems to be a paradise full of librarians. |
| 02:00 |
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joels68 |
:) |
| 02:27 |
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ibeardslee |
rangi: But once you get to NZ, there really is no reason to go anywhere else. |
| 02:27 |
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mtompset |
Not quite the same as librarians, but I was hoping there was something like this for librarians. http://youtu.be/lOfZLb33uCg (Amish Paradise) |
| 02:31 |
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mtompset |
Well, that would depend on what you are expecting to find, ibeardslee. We've seen scenic beauty, but what about someone who wants a concrete jungle? |
| 02:32 |
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rangi |
http://content.bookyourgolf.ne[…]ion/1/229-849.jpg <-- like that |
| 02:34 |
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mtompset |
Hmmm... Are there any typhoons, flooding, hurricanes, tsunamis, or other bizarre and potentially dangerous weather? |
| 02:35 |
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eythian |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]warning-for-North |
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| 02:35 |
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rangi |
earthquakes are the main thing |
| 02:36 |
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mtompset |
So, then except for that, I think I would agree. :) |
| 02:37 |
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mtompset |
I think weather is and other things like that, many countries have havens of beauty. :) |
| 02:37 |
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mtompset |
Let's rephrase that to intelligible... Weather and other things like it generally are the only down some of many countries. |
| 02:37 |
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mtompset |
Most countries have havens of beauty in them. |
| 02:39 |
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mtompset |
down SIDE... arg... need more caffeine to make the next couple of hours. |
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rambuten |
rangi: are there notable immigration restrictions for US citizens? |
| 02:51 |
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eythian |
can't have TB. |
| 02:52 |
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eythian |
actually, we're not terribly strict compared to some places. |
| 02:52 |
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rambuten |
ah, well, no TB! |
| 02:52 |
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PSC |
Plus you're close to Australia - so there's that ;) |
| 02:53 |
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rambuten |
I was thinking close to Thailand |
| 02:53 |
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rangi |
we try not to talk about that PSC :) |
| 02:53 |
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eythian |
SE Asia is a decent flight away, but I've done worse. |
| 02:53 |
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eythian |
~12 hours to Singapore |
| 02:53 |
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PSC |
:P Australia's mum says we're cool |
| 02:54 |
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PSC |
If you live in Darwin, it's even closer...The only downside is you live in Darwin |
| 02:56 |
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rambuten |
mtompset: I had the strongest urge for pork sinigang today |
| 02:57 |
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mtompset |
I usually only want sinigang when I have a bad cold. :) |
| 02:57 |
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mtompset |
PSC? |
| 02:58 |
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mtompset |
DOH! More caffeine it is. |
| 03:20 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1497: SUCCESS in 1 hr 59 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1497/ |
| 03:23 |
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mtompset |
Waylon Robertson has come here before, right? Can't remember his nick though. |
| 03:24 |
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eythian |
"waylon" iirc |
| 03:28 |
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joels68 |
I'm still trudging thru the wish lists from KohaCon. |
| 03:32 |
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mtompset |
@seen waylon |
| 03:32 |
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huginn |
mtompset: waylon was last seen in #koha 1 year, 5 weeks, 1 day, 13 hours, 57 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <Waylon> will do. |
| 03:33 |
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mtompset |
Wow... that's a long time ago. I'll stick with just the email I sent. |
| 03:33 |
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mtompset |
I wish for no silent warnings in logs. :) |
| 03:33 |
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eythian |
if it's logged, it's not very silent... |
| 03:34 |
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mtompset |
Okay, but the idea is that the warnings are generally ignored, because everything worked as expected. |
| 03:34 |
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mtompset |
but when a real problem comes, they get in the way. |
| 03:35 |
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eythian |
yeah, I've been on a bit of a thing about that recently too |
| 03:35 |
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mtompset |
Forgive me for bug pimping: 11077. :) |
| 03:36 |
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eythian |
bug 11077 |
| 03:36 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11077 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Correct silent warnings in C4/Auth.pm |
| 03:37 |
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mtompset |
tcohen, myself, and papa have patched together something which I think would keep Auth.pm nice and quite when things work. |
| 03:37 |
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eythian |
bug 11182 bug 11183 bug 11184 bug 11196 |
| 03:37 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11182 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Warnings in circulation |
| 03:37 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11183 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Warnings in opac |
| 03:37 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11184 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Fix wrong attribute type cloning |
| 03:37 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11196 major, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , SearchEngine pref not in sysprefs.sql |
| 03:37 |
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eythian |
all of these cause annoying warnings |
| 03:37 |
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papa |
those are not auth |
| 03:38 |
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eythian |
no, they're things in general :) |
| 03:38 |
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mtompset |
it fits the context of warnings that go unnoticed until you read error logs. |
| 03:40 |
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mtompset |
Okay, more things to follow. :) |
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| 03:44 |
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eythian |
http://ubuntuone.com/2pr7mZNPOGou5um3i8l4WI <-- mtompset, this is my new toy for that sort of thing. |
| 03:45 |
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eythian |
it does more, and I have it currently filtering a database explosion that occurred overnight, but that's an easy-to-censor subset. |
| 03:47 |
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mtompset |
what is it?! |
| 03:47 |
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eythian |
it's taking all our server logs and doing realtime reports of the stuff in them to my browser. |
| 03:47 |
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mtompset |
Ooo! I like the "top errors" section. |
| 03:47 |
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eythian |
so if one error starts happening a lot, it'll move its way to the top |
| 03:48 |
|
eythian |
if you click on anything, it changes the filter to just show things relating to what you clicked on, which is quite handy. |
| 03:48 |
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mtompset |
What is this called? |
| 03:48 |
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eythian |
but you'll see the amount of red in the histogram, I want to get that down to virtually nothing, unless something actually does break. |
| 03:49 |
|
eythian |
kabana is the frontend, it's got elastic search as the backend. |
| 03:50 |
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mtompset |
I think my supervisor was asking about me installing some analytics package, but I can't remember what. |
| 03:52 |
|
eythian |
probably not this, this is more a system you build rather than something you install. It still in a testing phase, but it's currently processing about 100 log entries per second across I don't know how many servers. |
| 03:52 |
|
eythian |
(most of them not Koha, obviously) |
| 03:53 |
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mtompset |
piwik, I think. |
| 03:54 |
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eythian |
oh yeah, I've been wanting to do some real integration of that into Koha. That's something we can give people access to, too. |
| 04:02 |
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eythian |
arg, so if you give bulkmarcimport.pl a match term, e.g. --match=isbn,020 and it comes across a record without an 020 field, it aborts the whole thing. |
| 04:02 |
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eythian |
that strikes me as really stupid. |
| 04:21 |
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mtompset |
I agree. But it is easier to crap out than elegantly continue. :) |
| 04:23 |
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mtompset |
Tinkering with installing piwik. |
| 04:23 |
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mtompset |
Had to install something, which I had to figure out, rather than have useful installation documentation. :P |
| 04:23 |
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mtompset |
But generally, not so bad. |
| 05:03 |
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mtompset |
Well. Have a great day, #koha. |
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* cait |
waves |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
what's up, reiveune |
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* kf |
waves |
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* ashimema |
waves back |
| 11:07 |
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kf |
:) |
| 11:13 |
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kivilahtio |
Hi kf! Since you seem to know everything, can you tell me where could I see what changes Koha 3.14 brings? |
| 11:13 |
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kivilahtio |
http://koha-community.org/koha[…]anagers-update-1/ |
| 11:13 |
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kivilahtio |
reading these, but from the mailing list I heard that there should be some consortial improvements |
| 11:14 |
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kivilahtio |
cant find a trace of those |
| 11:17 |
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kf |
kivilahtio: I certainly don't know everything |
| 11:17 |
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kf |
there will be release notes for 3.14 - there is also a script for generating automatic ones |
| 11:18 |
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kf |
here is some more information: http://koha-community.org/koha[…]14-beta-released/ |
| 11:18 |
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kf |
i am not quite sure to which consortial features you are referring to |
| 11:18 |
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kf |
with more keywords maybe i can remember |
| 11:18 |
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kivilahtio |
kf: me neither |
| 11:18 |
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kivilahtio |
kf: I was emailing in the koha-list and someone said something aobut that, but I can't find anything related to those |
| 11:19 |
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kf |
sorry, i am covered with work |
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kf |
do you have a link to that? |
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kivilahtio |
kf: Koha Digest, Vol 97, Issue 5, message 6 |
| 11:20 |
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kivilahtio |
kf: but it doesn't say much |
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kivilahtio |
kf: But get back to work! Don't let me keep you! |
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kivilahtio |
:) |
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kf |
i already deleted the maisl here |
| 11:21 |
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kf |
sorry, not time to search right now - it's really busy. |
| 11:21 |
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kivilahtio |
kf: np |
| 11:22 |
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kf |
there were some improvements for independent branches |
| 11:22 |
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kf |
maybe people were referring to that |
| 11:22 |
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kf |
and there are lots of open bugs/devs in that area, maybe talk to khall |
| 11:22 |
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kf |
hm and there is highlight my library something in the prefs... but that is 3.12 i think |
| 11:23 |
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kf |
and having the items of the home library on a different tab... things like that, but all 3.12 |
| 11:29 |
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kivilahtio |
kf: ok, thanks you |
| 11:29 |
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kivilahtio |
kf: Luckily the UseIndependentBranches give the core functionality for a lot of consortial stuff, pretty much you can extend it to UseIndependentBranches with TrasnferLimits to make a consortial Koha |
| 11:30 |
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kivilahtio |
way cool! |
| 11:30 |
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kf |
i think it always dependso n how your consortia is organized - some are more independent than others |
| 11:31 |
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kivilahtio |
kf: so true, we have some features not Evergreen could facilitate, I think |
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tcohen |
morning |
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kf |
hi tcohen |
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tcohen |
hi kf, its silent here today |
| 13:10 |
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kf |
yep |
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kf |
all busy |
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samueld |
hi everybody |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #211: "<paul_p> mtate a bug in C4/Search ? That's unbelievable !" (added by slef at 12:35 PM, July 17, 2012) |
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kf |
hi gmcharlt :) |
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gmcharlt |
hi kf |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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tcohen |
hi oleonard |
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kf |
hi oleonard :) |
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kf |
so the koha meeting is tonight at 2 am? |
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kf |
or tomorrow night? |
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kf |
i just really want to get up on the right day if possible :) |
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kf |
oh 3 am |
| 13:56 |
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oleonard |
So never mind :) |
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kf |
*confused* |
| 13:57 |
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oleonard |
That is an awful time to hold a voting meeting. |
| 13:58 |
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kf |
i am not a fan of this time in general, but ... |
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druthb |
o/ |
| 13:59 |
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oleonard |
Not that there is really anything to vote on since we will accept all volunteers |
| 14:00 |
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gmcharlt |
yeah, no objections have expressed to anyone thus far |
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kf |
we found the right amount of volunteers.... |
| 14:03 |
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kf |
well, qa would be even better with more people of course... :) |
| 14:04 |
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oleonard |
Reporters have uncovered no scandals in gmcharlt's past which would disqualify him from a second term |
| 14:04 |
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druthb |
yeah, at least one of the QA vols is pretty flaky. Can't depend on her for anything. Texans. Hmpf. |
| 14:04 |
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kf |
yeah those texans... ;) |
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druthb |
:P |
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tcohen |
texan_qa++ |
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BMetcalf |
Test message only. Pay no attention to the librarian behind the curtain. |
| 14:17 |
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BMetcalf |
Bye |
| 14:18 |
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kf |
heh |
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kf |
that was a quote from the wizard of oz,... right? |
| 14:19 |
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oleonard |
Was someone trying for their "logged into IRC once" merit badge or something? |
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kf |
i think they were at kohacon |
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kf |
probably installing an irc client and testing? for the meeting? |
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kf |
we encouraged people to attend them :) |
| 14:29 |
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tcohen |
bug 10905 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10905 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Author tracings incorrect when UseAuthoritiesForTracings is turned on |
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tcohen |
trivial patch |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: groovy -- my ongoing obfuscation effort has succeeded! |
| 14:44 |
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tcohen |
ouch |
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tcohen |
export framework using CSV format, then import: breaks non ASCII strings... |
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kf |
tcohen: sounds like.... ENCODING problems |
| 15:00 |
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kf |
i thought there was a bug once about it not exporting correctly as utf-8 |
| 15:00 |
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tcohen |
kf: currently testing a possible solution |
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tcohen |
damn |
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tcohen |
the exported file is... |
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tcohen |
ISO-8859 |
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kf |
ew. |
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jcamins |
Could be worse. |
| 15:05 |
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jcamins |
Much worse. |
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tcohen |
hi jcamins |
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jcamins |
Windows-1252 FOR LIFE! |
| 15:05 |
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tcohen |
heh |
| 15:05 |
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jcamins |
Wait, no, I meant Windows-1251 FOR LIFE! |
| 15:07 |
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tcohen |
what does 'chr' do? Do I need to run away in fear? |
| 15:08 |
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tcohen |
how does chr know the context is UTF-8? |
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tcohen |
fixed :-D |
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ashkar |
hai..... all |
| 15:30 |
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ashkar |
I wish to know the details of data back up and restoration on koha 3.10 |
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gmcharlt |
oops |
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druthb |
@quote random |
| 15:40 |
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huginn |
druthb: Quote #227: "wizzyrea: lol, you should have searched for paroxysms" (added by druthb at 12:40 AM, December 28, 2012) |
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rambutan |
are there any recommendations for server monitoring software for a Koha server |
| 15:51 |
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rambutan |
@monitors = (argus,cacti,ganglia,monit,munin,nagios,observium,zabbix,zenos) |
| 15:52 |
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huginn |
rambutan: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
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kf |
rambutan: i think some use nagios, we do too, but not sure if there is any recommendation. probably not really related to koha |
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rambutan |
ok, that's a good solid candidate, tnx |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
| 16:02 |
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mtompset |
It would seem that I won't be here for the meeting, even though I'd really like to be involved in the discussion related to "Roundtable on SAX parser settings". |
| 16:03 |
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jcamins |
Why on earth is something that technical on the agenda for an IRC meeting? |
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jcamins |
Indeed, what does that even mean? |
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tcohen |
maybe a koha-devel thread is a better approach. The thing is to make it clear whether we need to set the sax parser or not |
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jcamins |
Yeah, a much better approach. |
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kf |
jcamins: we don't have technical meetings ;) |
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jcamins |
kf: yes, but is there an action that can come out of that agenda item? |
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jcamins |
Will the people who need to discuss it be present? |
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tcohen |
just as when gmcharlt explained what the patch acceptance would be for 3.14, I thought we could make a desicion on what to do about that |
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jcamins |
The answer to those questions is "not really, no" and "no, it's 2am in Europe." |
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jcamins |
I won't be attending the meeting, so I'm not going to object so strenuously as to demand it be taken off the agenda, I just can't imagine any progress being made on answering the question at a general IRC meeting. |
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gmcharlt |
followed by "it will become moot if we require a recent enough version of MARC::File::XML" |
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mtompset |
so, then perhaps we should take it off the agenda, and discuss on koha-devel? |
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kf |
i understand why it was puton the agenda |
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kf |
and the action item can be that it should go on the list - but that often is quite open ended... if you don't set a deadline or something |
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mtompset |
Well, since "no, it's 2am in Europe" "will the people who need to discuss it be present?" kind of makes the koha-devel discussion idea better. |
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mtompset |
And gmcharlt, ubuntu 12.04 doesn't have the latest MARC::File::XML in it's default repos, but you can grab the Saucy one and it works fine. |
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mtompset |
but a wget and dpkg -i is kind of ugly in installation instructions. |
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gmcharlt |
mtompset: no, it would be 'sudo cpan MARC::File::XML'; not ideal, but better than wget+dpkg |
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gmcharlt |
in any event, +1 to discussing this on koha-devel |
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mtompset |
*cringe* I'm starting a thread now. |
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ashimema |
gmcharlt: or even 'sudo cpanm...' ;) |
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gmcharlt |
ashimema: yep, that works too |
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ashimema |
better still, I'm sure robin would oblige to have is in the koha repos.. |
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gmcharlt |
yeah, I think that's been suggested, though I'm not sure if there's any awkwardness about putting a package up there purely as a backport |
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ashimema |
then providing your using packages it 'just works' |
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ashimema |
I have a feeling there may be a few other such modules in the repos.. though don't quote me on it |
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ashimema |
Hmm.. I'm gonna see if I can manage to stay awake tonight.. gonna be fireworks untill late anyways.. |
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jcamins |
Fireworks? |
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gmcharlt |
Guy Fawkes, right? |
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ashimema |
2am is possibly pushing it though.. so will send my appologies incase i fall asleep at the keyboard. |
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ashimema |
yup.. Guy Fawkes |
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gmcharlt |
ashimema: just make sure your face *away* from the keyboard and not on it ;) |
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gmcharlt |
*falls |
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ashimema |
haha.. yup |
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kf |
hm what sources can we recommend to someone trying to do a data migration? |
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kf |
i have scheam and commented kohastructure.sql so far |
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gmcharlt |
some of the migration tools Git repos that folks have published would be another good resource |
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kf |
i think they have programmers, but are struggling with the data mapping |
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kf |
not easy hm. |
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jcamins |
kf: http://www.germanbeerinstitute.com/ <-- most important resource for Germans doing library data migration. |
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kf |
hmpf. |
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jcamins |
Wait, no, that's a US site. |
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kf |
... do your research librarian! |
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jcamins |
eythian would be able to tell you the most important resource. |
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kf |
This is a beta site. It is a work in progress. So expect a few bumps, dead ends, omissions, and distortions (especially if you are not using Internet Explorer). |
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kf |
hm. |
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tcohen |
kf, did you get bgkriegel's email on translate.k-c.org? |
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kf |
yep :) |
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kf |
bgkriegel++ tcohen++ |
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tcohen |
is anyone familiar with ODS files handling in Koha? |
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tcohen |
mtompset, gmcharlt: I think we should just push the newest version of MARC::File::XML into our repo and forget about all this. And for tarball installs, just remove references to setting the SAX Parser |
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ashimema |
I don't think removing references is a good idea.. not everyone uses the packages and tracking down the sax issue is a nightmare untill you see mention of it somewhere. |
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ashimema |
I do however agree with adding it to the repos and lessening it's docs. |
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gmcharlt |
that could be followed up by bumping up the minimum required version of M::F::XML |
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ashimema |
very true. |
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wahanui |
I know. That's why I said it. |
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tcohen |
ashimema: if we bump the minimum required version it will arise anyway |
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ashimema |
yeah.. your right.. in which case killing off the sax parser mentioning sounds fine to me. |
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tcohen |
we can still mention that somewhere |
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gmcharlt |
the section entitled "Here's why we really meant it when we bumped up the required version of MARC::File::XML" |
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ashimema |
:) |
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tcohen |
can you clarify somth gmcharlt? |
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gmcharlt |
hmm? |
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tcohen |
the latest MARC::File::XML chooses itself the best SAX parser available? |
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tcohen |
(i.e. doesn't rely on the system's default) |
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gmcharlt |
the latest MARC::File::XML doesn't use SAX at all (unless you force it to) in favor of LibXML |
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tcohen |
good, that's enough explanation for me :D |
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ashimema |
I was wodnering how you'de gotten around it.. |
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kf |
what are the negative side effects if you don't change the settings? |
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gmcharlt |
KILLING IT WITH FIRE! |
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kf |
i wonder..i haven't always done it i think |
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gmcharlt |
kf: there used to be a time where choosing the wrong SAX parser meant that MARC::File::XML couldn't correctly parse MARCXML |
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tcohen |
the whole subject arised when I ran sax_parser_test.pl on a packages install |
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tcohen |
and noticed something was mandatory for tarball installs on stable, was wrongly set for packages (stable) |
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ashimema |
Oh.. whats happened when you did that tcohen? |
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tcohen |
of course it failed on packages install |
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tcohen |
it does actually |
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tcohen |
fail |
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ashimema |
not too surprising.. how did koha behave.. I've had real issues with using the wrong sax parser at points in he past. |
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tcohen |
so I proposed a three steps command to properly set the parser in Debian |
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ashimema |
I see.. |
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tcohen |
because if you edit the file manually |
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tcohen |
it will be regenerated by the install scripts on some update scenarios |
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tcohen |
so as rmaint for the stable branch |
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tcohen |
i am concerned on the consecquences |
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tcohen |
which will turn void if we push the new package on the repo |
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bag |
morning |
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wahanui |
morning is, like, a state of cat |
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druthb |
hi, bag! |
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bag |
hello druthb |
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kf |
morning bag :) |
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bag |
hello kf |
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bag |
:) |
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mtompset |
Still creating thread... almost done. |
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tcohen |
bug 9114 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9114 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , exported MARC frameworks encoding should be UTF-8 |
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reiveune1 |
bye |
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tcohen |
gmcharlt: "Time Zone Warnings: Determining the local time zone for a system can be slow. If $ENV{TZ} is not set, it may involve reading a number of files in /etc or elsewhere. If you know that the local time zone won't change while your code is running, and you need to make many objects for the local time zone, it is strongly recommended that you retrieve the local time zone once and cache it" |
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tcohen |
vfernandes posted that yesterday |
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tcohen |
can we just use memcached for that? |
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mtompset |
tcohen: I agree with your reply. :) +1 for hosting it in the repo, so installation documentation is simple and consistent. |
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tcohen |
bye #koha |
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tcohen |
@later tell vfernandes could you please ffill a bug on caching timezone calculation? |
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tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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mtompset |
Hmm... there, cleaned up some documentation links. |
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mtompset |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ion_Documentation was seriously lacking updates. |
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cait |
yeah, but the centos list is still a bit weird being under koha 3.0 :) |
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cait |
i fell over that yesterday |
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mtompset |
I tweaked it again. refresh. :) |
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cait |
making much more sense now |
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cait |
mtompset++ |
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mtompset |
Thanks, cait. I'm just about to split off tcohen's documentation comment into a sub-discussion on the koha-devel mailing list. |
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mtompset |
I found that link as a result of researching my reply. |
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Shane-S |
does Koha have anything that prevents the system from shutting down when issues "sudo shutdown -r now"? |
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Shane-S |
I have SSH'ed in twice and sent that command but my server is staying up |
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jcamins |
Shane-S: no. |
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mtompset |
is -r reboot? |
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Shane-S |
yeah |
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mtompset |
why not just 'sudo reboot'? |
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Shane-S |
<-- habbit? |
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mtompset |
I can understand that. :) |
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Shane-S |
it even gives me the normal system is shutting down now message and kicks me...odd |
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mtompset |
I found in Ubuntu 'sudo reboot now' doesn't work. |
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mtompset |
and you did an uptime to confirm it didn't reboot? |
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mtompset |
Or you didn't lose the SSH connections? |
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Shane-S |
no...I was just doing live web searches...but just did...it says 4 minutes |
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Shane-S |
I guess it did re-boot, I am just remoting in trying to troubleshoot mac's being ungodly slow with the Z35.90 search/imports |
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Shane-S |
PC's seem fast, though a reboot for the server and my firewall might help |
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Shane-S |
now I can move onto the firewall :P |
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Shane-S |
remote access is semi scary....I always worry I am on the wrong unit/system |
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mtompset |
Me too. :) |
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mtompset |
nothing worse than mixing up live and qa systems. :) |
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cait |
@later tell tcohen - could you take a look at 9299? |
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huginn |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
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* druthb |
wields pointy stick, looks at mtompset suspiciously. |
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cait |
hm? |
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* druthb |
pokes mtompset gently with her pointy stick, to see if he's awake. |
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* mtompset |
continues to play dead. :P |
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mtompset |
Greetingts, druthb. :) |
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cait |
mtompset: dead don#t talk... |
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cait |
;) |
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mtompset |
It's a miracle! I'm alive. :P |
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ebegin |
hey #koha ! |
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ebegin |
About the bootstrap theme, do you think that copying xx-XX-i-opac-t-prog-v-3006000.po will do the magic ? |
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cait |
ebegin: no |
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cait |
but there are files for the bootstrap theme on pootle i think |
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ebegin |
cait, that not funny :( |
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ebegin |
s/that/that's |
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cait |
i mean you can try it, but i doubt it |
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cait |
but have you looked at pootle yet? |
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ebegin |
nope. not yet :) |
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ebegin |
Well, I looked at pootle, but not for bootstrap |
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cait |
For german it does not look too bad (and i haven't translated yet): http://translate.koha-community.org/de/314/ |
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cait |
there is a new separate file, but i think bernardo did some magic, you don't have to start from scratch |
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gmcharlt |
yeah, fortunately many of the strings can carry over |
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eythian |
hi |
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gmcharlt |
howdy |
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* cait |
waves to eythian and gmcharlt |
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eythian |
hi cait, gmcharlt. |
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eythian |
jcamins: y'about? |
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mtompset |
Have a good da,y, #koha. |
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eythian |
gmcharlt: it's MARC::XML 1.0.1 that I'm going to be wanting, right? |
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gmcharlt |
eythian: correct |
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eythian |
there's something fishy about its version numbering |
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eythian |
it comes out as 1..1 |
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* eythian |
might just rebuild it from scratch, see what happens |
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eythian |
still does it. /me overrides. |
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eythian |
there's nothing obviously wrong with it, I dunno whey that's happening. |
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cait |
bad package, no cookie for you. |
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cait |
sorry, couldn't resist... I should probably be sleeping. |
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cait |
:) |
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gmcharlt |
heh |
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gmcharlt |
eythian++ |
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cait |
eythian++ |
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eythian |
cait: why start now, eh? |
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cait |
yeah, could just stay awake until the meeting.. |
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eythian |
oh hey, there's a meeting in a few hours, should keep that in mind. |
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eythian |
ooh, curry time |
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cait |
enjoy |
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