IRC log for #koha, 2013-11-05

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00:01 PSC Assuming quote above is re; MARC? Anyone mind if I borrow quote to promote discussion on Hyperlink MOOC?
00:02 rambutan MARC sounds like a french name to me. We'd spell it Mark.
00:03 jcamins PSC: MARC21.
00:04 PSC Thanks @jcamins - ok to borrow?
00:04 jcamins Of course!
00:05 PSC Merci Beaucoup (just for rambutan) :)
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00:30 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
00:35 mtompset Greetings, Is there a cronjob that needs to be set up for overdue notices?
00:35 eythian yes, otherwise they won't get sent
00:37 mtompset What's that job called? is it included by default in the packages?
00:37 eythian koha-foreach --enabled --email /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/ -t
00:37 eythian yes
00:40 mtompset Ah okay. There it is.
00:41 mtompset So, the fact that our system isn't sending any is a configuration issue then?
00:42 mtompset You have to set overdue notice/status triggers?
00:43 eythian yeah, you need to set those
00:43 eythian also, you have email enabled?
00:45 mtompset Hmm... koha-list --noemail says our instance... That would be part of the problem. :)
00:46 eythian that'll do it
00:48 mtompset eythian++ # thanks for the pointers.
00:49 eythian np
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01:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #1497 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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01:53 rangi[…]295757312/photo/1 thats about 80m from my house
01:56 joels68 rangi You've got seaside digs?
01:56 rangi closish, up the hill about 5-10 mins walk to the beach
01:58 rangi[…]ngton/owhiro+bay/  see bottom right, severn street, thats where i live
01:59 joels68 Wow. Are there any downsides at all to living in NZ?
02:00 rangi just the flight to get to and from really :-)
02:00 joels68 Seems to be a paradise full of librarians.
02:00 joels68 :)
02:27 ibeardslee rangi: But once you get to NZ, there really is no reason to go anywhere else.
02:27 mtompset Not quite the same as librarians, but I was hoping there was something like this for librarians. (Amish Paradise)
02:31 mtompset Well, that would depend on what you are expecting to find, ibeardslee. We've seen scenic beauty, but what about someone who wants a concrete jungle?
02:32 rangi[…]ion/1/229-849.jpg  <-- like that
02:34 mtompset Hmmm... Are there any typhoons, flooding, hurricanes, tsunamis, or other bizarre and potentially dangerous weather?
02:35 eythian[…]warning-for-North
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02:35 rangi earthquakes are the main thing
02:36 mtompset So, then except for that, I think I would agree. :)
02:37 mtompset I think weather is and other things like that, many countries have havens of beauty. :)
02:37 mtompset Let's rephrase that to intelligible... Weather and other things like it generally are the only down some of many countries.
02:37 mtompset Most countries have havens of beauty in them.
02:39 mtompset down SIDE... arg... need more caffeine to make the next couple of hours.
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02:51 rambuten rangi: are there notable immigration restrictions for US citizens?
02:51 eythian can't have TB.
02:52 eythian actually, we're not terribly strict compared to some places.
02:52 rambuten ah, well, no TB!
02:52 PSC Plus you're close to Australia - so there's that ;)
02:53 rambuten I was thinking close to Thailand
02:53 rangi we try not to talk about that PSC :)
02:53 eythian SE Asia is a decent flight away, but I've done worse.
02:53 eythian ~12 hours to Singapore
02:53 PSC :P Australia's mum says we're cool
02:54 PSC If you live in Darwin, it's even closer...The only downside is you live in Darwin
02:56 rambuten mtompset: I had the strongest urge for pork sinigang today
02:57 mtompset I usually only want sinigang when I have a bad cold. :)
02:57 mtompset PSC?
02:58 mtompset DOH! More caffeine it is.
03:20 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1497: SUCCESS in 1 hr 59 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1497/
03:23 mtompset Waylon Robertson has come here before, right? Can't remember his nick though.
03:24 eythian "waylon" iirc
03:28 joels68 I'm still trudging thru the wish lists from KohaCon.
03:32 mtompset @seen waylon
03:32 huginn mtompset: waylon was last seen in #koha 1 year, 5 weeks, 1 day, 13 hours, 57 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <Waylon> will do.
03:33 mtompset Wow... that's a long time ago. I'll stick with just the email I sent.
03:33 mtompset I wish for no silent warnings in logs. :)
03:33 eythian if it's logged, it's not very silent...
03:34 mtompset Okay, but the idea is that the warnings are generally ignored, because everything worked as expected.
03:34 mtompset but when a real problem comes, they get in the way.
03:35 eythian yeah, I've been on a bit of a thing about that recently too
03:35 mtompset Forgive me for bug pimping: 11077. :)
03:36 eythian bug 11077
03:36 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11077 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Correct silent warnings in C4/
03:37 mtompset tcohen, myself, and papa have patched together something which I think would keep nice and quite when things work.
03:37 eythian bug 11182 bug 11183 bug 11184 bug 11196
03:37 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11182 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Warnings in circulation
03:37 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11183 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Warnings in opac
03:37 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11184 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Fix wrong attribute type cloning
03:37 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11196 major, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , SearchEngine pref not in sysprefs.sql
03:37 eythian all of these cause annoying warnings
03:37 papa those are not auth
03:38 eythian no, they're things in general :)
03:38 mtompset it fits the context of warnings that go unnoticed until you read error logs.
03:40 mtompset Okay, more things to follow. :)
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03:44 eythian <-- mtompset, this is my new toy for that sort of thing.
03:45 eythian it does more, and I have it currently filtering a database explosion that occurred overnight, but that's an easy-to-censor subset.
03:47 mtompset what is it?!
03:47 eythian it's taking all our server logs and doing realtime reports of the stuff in them to my browser.
03:47 mtompset Ooo! I like the "top errors" section.
03:47 eythian so if one error starts happening a lot, it'll move its way to the top
03:48 eythian if you click on anything, it changes the filter to just show things relating to what you clicked on, which is quite handy.
03:48 mtompset What is this called?
03:48 eythian but you'll see the amount of red in the histogram, I want to get that down to virtually nothing, unless something actually does break.
03:49 eythian kabana is the frontend, it's got elastic search as the backend.
03:50 mtompset I think my supervisor was asking about me installing some analytics package, but I can't remember what.
03:52 eythian probably not this, this is more a system you build rather than something you install. It still in a testing phase, but it's currently processing about 100 log entries per second across I don't know how many servers.
03:52 eythian (most of them not Koha, obviously)
03:53 mtompset piwik, I think.
03:54 eythian oh yeah, I've been wanting to do some real integration of that into Koha. That's something we can give people access to, too.
04:02 eythian arg, so if you give a match term, e.g. --match=isbn,020 and it comes across a record without an 020 field, it aborts the whole thing.
04:02 eythian that strikes me as really stupid.
04:21 mtompset I agree. But it is easier to crap out than elegantly continue. :)
04:23 mtompset Tinkering with installing piwik.
04:23 mtompset Had to install something, which I had to figure out, rather than have useful installation documentation. :P
04:23 mtompset But generally, not so bad.
05:03 mtompset Well. Have a great day, #koha.
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07:38 reiveune hello
07:38 wahanui what's up, reiveune
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09:30 * kf waves
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10:45 * ashimema waves back
11:07 kf :)
11:13 kivilahtio Hi kf! Since you seem to know everything, can you tell me where could I see what changes Koha 3.14 brings?
11:13 kivilahtio[…]anagers-update-1/
11:13 kivilahtio reading these, but from the mailing list I heard that there should be some consortial improvements
11:14 kivilahtio cant find a trace of those
11:17 kf kivilahtio: I certainly don't know everything
11:17 kf there will be release notes for 3.14 - there is also a script for generating automatic ones
11:18 kf here is some more information:[…]14-beta-released/
11:18 kf i am not quite sure to which consortial features you are referring to
11:18 kf with more keywords maybe i can remember
11:18 kivilahtio kf: me neither
11:18 kivilahtio kf: I was emailing in the koha-list and someone said something aobut that, but I can't find anything related to those
11:19 kf sorry, i am covered with work
11:19 kf do you have a link to that?
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11:20 kivilahtio kf: Koha Digest, Vol 97, Issue 5, message 6
11:20 kivilahtio kf: but it doesn't say much
11:20 kivilahtio kf: But get back to work! Don't let me keep you!
11:20 kivilahtio :)
11:20 kf i already deleted the maisl here
11:21 kf sorry, not time to search right now - it's really busy.
11:21 kivilahtio kf: np
11:22 kf there were some improvements for independent branches
11:22 kf maybe people were referring to that
11:22 kf and there are lots of open bugs/devs in that area, maybe talk to khall
11:22 kf hm and there is highlight my library something in the prefs... but that is 3.12 i think
11:23 kf and having the items of the home library on a different tab... things like that, but all 3.12
11:29 kivilahtio kf: ok, thanks you
11:29 kivilahtio kf: Luckily the UseIndependentBranches give the core functionality for a lot of consortial stuff, pretty much you can extend it to UseIndependentBranches with TrasnferLimits to make a consortial Koha
11:30 kivilahtio way cool!
11:30 kf i think it always dependso n how your consortia is organized - some are more independent than others
11:31 kivilahtio kf: so true, we have some features not Evergreen could facilitate, I think
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12:43 tcohen morning
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13:10 kf hi tcohen
13:10 tcohen hi kf, its silent here today
13:10 kf yep
13:10 kf all busy
13:15 samueld hi everybody
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13:34 gmcharlt @quote random
13:34 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #211: "<paul_p> mtate a bug in C4/Search ? That's unbelievable !" (added by slef at 12:35 PM, July 17, 2012)
13:34 kf hi gmcharlt :)
13:35 gmcharlt hi kf
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13:38 oleonard Hi #koha
13:44 tcohen hi oleonard
13:55 kf hi oleonard :)
13:55 kf so the koha meeting is tonight at 2 am?
13:55 kf or tomorrow night?
13:55 kf i just really want to get up on the right day if possible :)
13:55 kf oh 3 am
13:56 oleonard So never mind :)
13:56 kf *confused*
13:57 oleonard That is an awful time to hold a voting meeting.
13:58 kf i am not a fan of this time in general, but ...
13:58 druthb o/
13:59 oleonard Not that there is really anything to vote on since we will accept all volunteers
14:00 gmcharlt yeah, no objections have expressed to anyone thus far
14:03 kf we found the right amount of volunteers....
14:03 kf well, qa would be even better with more people of course... :)
14:04 oleonard Reporters have uncovered no scandals in gmcharlt's past which would disqualify him from a second term
14:04 druthb yeah, at least one of the QA vols is pretty flaky.  Can't depend on her for anything.  Texans.  Hmpf.
14:04 kf yeah those texans... ;)
14:08 druthb :P
14:12 tcohen texan_qa++
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14:16 BMetcalf Test message only. Pay no attention to the librarian behind the curtain.
14:17 BMetcalf Bye
14:18 kf heh
14:18 kf that was a quote from the wizard of oz,... right?
14:19 oleonard Was someone trying for their "logged into IRC once" merit badge or something?
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14:25 kf i think they were at kohacon
14:25 kf probably installing an irc client and testing? for the meeting?
14:25 kf we encouraged people to attend them :)
14:29 tcohen bug 10905
14:29 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10905 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Author tracings incorrect when UseAuthoritiesForTracings is turned on
14:31 tcohen trivial patch
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14:41 gmcharlt oleonard: groovy -- my ongoing obfuscation effort has succeeded!
14:44 tcohen ouch
14:44 tcohen export framework using CSV format, then import: breaks non ASCII strings...
15:00 kf tcohen: sounds like.... ENCODING problems
15:00 kf i thought there was a bug once about it not exporting correctly as utf-8
15:00 tcohen kf: currently testing a possible solution
15:01 tcohen damn
15:01 tcohen the exported file is...
15:02 tcohen ISO-8859
15:03 kf ew.
15:05 jcamins Could be worse.
15:05 jcamins Much worse.
15:05 tcohen hi jcamins
15:05 jcamins Windows-1252 FOR LIFE!
15:05 tcohen heh
15:05 jcamins Wait, no, I meant Windows-1251 FOR LIFE!
15:07 tcohen what does 'chr' do? Do I need to run away in fear?
15:08 tcohen how does chr know the context is UTF-8?
15:18 tcohen fixed :-D
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15:30 ashkar hai..... all
15:30 ashkar I wish to know the details of data back up and restoration on koha 3.10
15:32 gmcharlt oops
15:40 druthb @quote random
15:40 huginn druthb: Quote #227: "wizzyrea: lol, you should have searched for paroxysms" (added by druthb at 12:40 AM, December 28, 2012)
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15:51 rambutan are there any recommendations for server monitoring software for a Koha server
15:51 rambutan @monitors = (argus,cacti,ganglia,monit,munin​,nagios,observium,zabbix,zenos)
15:52 huginn rambutan: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
15:52 kf rambutan: i think some use nagios, we do too, but not sure if there is any recommendation. probably not really related to koha
15:52 rambutan ok, that's a good solid candidate, tnx
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16:01 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
16:02 mtompset It would seem that I won't be here for the meeting, even though I'd really like to be involved in the discussion related to "Roundtable on SAX parser settings".
16:03 jcamins Why on earth is something that technical on the agenda for an IRC meeting?
16:04 jcamins Indeed, what does that even mean?
16:05 tcohen maybe a koha-devel thread is a better approach. The thing is to make it clear whether we need to set the sax parser or not
16:06 jcamins Yeah, a much better approach.
16:07 kf jcamins:  we don't have technical meetings ;)
16:07 jcamins kf: yes, but is there an action that can come out of that agenda item?
16:07 jcamins Will the people who need to discuss it be present?
16:08 tcohen just as when gmcharlt explained what the patch acceptance would be for 3.14, I thought we could make a desicion on what to do about that
16:08 jcamins The answer to those questions is "not really, no" and "no, it's 2am in Europe."
16:09 jcamins I won't be attending the meeting, so I'm not going to object so strenuously as to demand it be taken off the agenda, I just can't imagine any progress being made on answering the question at a general IRC meeting.
16:09 gmcharlt followed by "it will become moot if we require a recent enough version of MARC::File::XML"
16:13 mtompset so, then perhaps we should take it off the agenda, and discuss on koha-devel?
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16:15 kf i understand why it was puton the agenda
16:15 kf and the action item can be that it should go on the list - but that often is quite open ended... if you don't set a deadline or something
16:17 mtompset Well, since "no, it's 2am in Europe" "will the people who need to discuss it be present?" kind of makes the koha-devel discussion idea better.
16:18 mtompset And gmcharlt, ubuntu 12.04 doesn't have the latest MARC::File::XML in it's default repos, but you can grab the Saucy one and it works fine.
16:18 mtompset but a wget and dpkg -i is kind of ugly in installation instructions.
16:19 gmcharlt mtompset: no, it would be 'sudo cpan MARC::File::XML'; not ideal, but better than wget+dpkg
16:20 gmcharlt in any event, +1 to discussing this on koha-devel
16:20 mtompset *cringe* I'm starting a thread now.
16:22 ashimema gmcharlt: or even 'sudo cpanm...' ;)
16:22 gmcharlt ashimema: yep, that works too
16:22 ashimema better still, I'm sure robin would oblige to have is in the koha repos..
16:23 gmcharlt yeah, I think that's been suggested, though I'm not sure if there's any awkwardness about putting a package up there purely as a backport
16:23 ashimema then providing your using packages it 'just works'
16:24 ashimema I have a feeling there may be a few other such modules in the repos.. though don't quote me on it
16:24 ashimema Hmm.. I'm gonna see if I can manage to stay awake tonight.. gonna be fireworks untill late anyways..
16:24 jcamins Fireworks?
16:24 gmcharlt Guy Fawkes, right?
16:25 ashimema 2am is possibly pushing it though.. so will send my appologies incase i fall asleep at the keyboard.
16:25 ashimema yup.. Guy Fawkes
16:25 gmcharlt ashimema: just make sure your face *away* from the keyboard and not on it ;)
16:25 gmcharlt *falls
16:25 ashimema haha.. yup
16:28 kf hm what sources can we recommend to someone trying to do a data migration?
16:28 kf i have scheam and commented kohastructure.sql so far
16:29 gmcharlt some of the migration tools Git repos that folks have published would be another good resource
16:31 kf i think they have programmers, but are struggling with the data mapping
16:35 kf not easy hm.
16:36 jcamins kf: <-- most important resource for Germans doing library data migration.
16:36 kf hmpf.
16:36 jcamins Wait, no, that's a US site.
16:37 kf ... do your research librarian!
16:37 jcamins eythian would be able to tell you the most important resource.
16:37 kf This              is a beta site. It is a work in progress. So expect a few bumps, dead              ends, omissions, and distortions (especially if you are not using              Internet Explorer).
16:37 kf hm.
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16:44 tcohen kf, did you get bgkriegel's email on
16:44 kf yep :)
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16:45 kf bgkriegel++ tcohen++
16:55 tcohen is anyone familiar with ODS files handling in Koha?
16:56 tcohen mtompset, gmcharlt: I think we should just push the newest version of MARC::File::XML into our repo and forget about all this. And for tarball installs, just remove references to setting the SAX Parser
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17:04 ashimema I don't think removing references is a good idea.. not everyone uses the packages and tracking down the sax issue is a nightmare untill you see mention of it somewhere.
17:04 ashimema I do however agree with adding it to the repos and lessening it's docs.
17:04 gmcharlt that could be followed up by bumping up the minimum required version of M::F::XML
17:05 ashimema very true.
17:05 wahanui I know. That's why I said it.
17:05 tcohen ashimema: if we bump the minimum required version it will arise anyway
17:06 ashimema yeah.. your right.. in which case killing off the sax parser mentioning sounds fine to me.
17:06 tcohen we can still mention that somewhere
17:07 gmcharlt the section entitled "Here's why we really meant it when we bumped up the required version of MARC::File::XML"
17:07 ashimema :)
17:08 tcohen can you clarify somth gmcharlt?
17:08 gmcharlt hmm?
17:08 tcohen the latest MARC::File::XML chooses itself the best SAX parser available?
17:09 tcohen (i.e. doesn't rely on the system's default)
17:09 gmcharlt the latest MARC::File::XML doesn't use SAX at all (unless you force it to) in favor of LibXML
17:09 tcohen good, that's enough explanation for me  :D
17:10 ashimema I was wodnering how you'de gotten around it..
17:10 kf what are the negative side effects if you don't change the settings?
17:11 gmcharlt KILLING IT WITH FIRE!
17:11 kf i wonder..i haven't always done it i think
17:11 gmcharlt kf:  there used to be a time where choosing the wrong SAX parser meant that MARC::File::XML couldn't correctly parse MARCXML
17:12 tcohen the whole subject arised when I ran on a packages install
17:12 tcohen and noticed something was mandatory for tarball installs on stable, was wrongly set for packages (stable)
17:13 ashimema Oh.. whats happened when you did that tcohen?
17:13 tcohen of course it failed on packages install
17:13 tcohen it does actually
17:13 tcohen fail
17:13 ashimema not too surprising.. how did koha behave.. I've had real issues with using the wrong sax parser at points in he past.
17:13 tcohen so I proposed a three steps command to properly set the parser in Debian
17:14 ashimema I see..
17:14 tcohen because if you edit the file manually
17:14 tcohen it will be regenerated by the install scripts on some update scenarios
17:14 tcohen so as rmaint for the stable branch
17:14 tcohen i am concerned on the consecquences
17:15 tcohen which will turn void if we push the new package on the repo
17:18 bag morning
17:18 wahanui morning is, like, a state of cat
17:21 druthb hi, bag!
17:21 bag hello druthb
17:22 kf morning bag :)
17:22 bag hello kf
17:22 bag :)
17:31 mtompset Still creating thread... almost done.
17:31 tcohen bug 9114
17:31 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9114 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , exported MARC frameworks encoding should be UTF-8
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17:49 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.10.x build #66: FIXED in 9.5 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]a_Docs_3.10.x/66/
17:49 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: fix formatting of sopac section
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18:26 reiveune1 bye
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18:30 tcohen gmcharlt: "Time Zone Warnings: Determining the local time zone for a system can be slow. If $ENV{TZ} is not set, it may involve reading a number of files in /etc or elsewhere. If you know that the local time zone won't change while your code is running, and you need to make many objects for the local time zone, it is strongly recommended that you retrieve the local time zone once and cache it"
18:30 tcohen vfernandes posted that yesterday
18:30 tcohen can we just use memcached for that?
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18:52 mtompset tcohen: I agree with your reply. :) +1 for hosting it in the repo, so installation documentation is simple and consistent.
18:57 tcohen bye #koha
18:58 tcohen @later tell vfernandes could you please ffill a bug on caching timezone calculation?
18:58 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
19:27 mtompset Hmm... there, cleaned up some documentation links.
19:27 mtompset[…]ion_Documentation was seriously lacking updates.
19:28 cait yeah, but the centos list is still a bit weird being under koha 3.0 :)
19:28 cait i fell over that yesterday
19:31 mtompset I tweaked it again. refresh. :)
19:32 cait making much more sense now
19:32 cait mtompset++
19:33 mtompset Thanks, cait. I'm just about to split off tcohen's documentation comment into a sub-discussion on the koha-devel mailing list.
19:34 mtompset I found that link as a result of researching my reply.
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19:45 Shane-S does Koha have anything that prevents the system from shutting down when issues "sudo shutdown -r now"?
19:45 Shane-S I have SSH'ed in twice and sent that command but my server is staying up
19:45 jcamins Shane-S: no.
19:46 mtompset is -r reboot?
19:46 Shane-S yeah
19:46 mtompset why not just 'sudo reboot'?
19:46 Shane-S <-- habbit?
19:47 mtompset I can understand that. :)
19:47 Shane-S it even gives me the normal system is shutting down now message and kicks me...odd
19:47 mtompset I found in Ubuntu 'sudo reboot now' doesn't work.
19:47 mtompset and you did an uptime to confirm it didn't reboot?
19:48 mtompset Or you didn't lose the SSH connections?
19:48 Shane-S no...I was just doing live web searches...but just says 4 minutes
19:49 Shane-S I guess it did re-boot, I am just remoting in trying to troubleshoot mac's being ungodly slow with the Z35.90 search/imports
19:49 Shane-S PC's seem fast, though a reboot for the server and my firewall might help
19:49 Shane-S now I can move onto the firewall :P
19:50 Shane-S remote access is semi scary....I always worry I am on the wrong unit/system
19:50 mtompset Me too. :)
19:50 mtompset nothing worse than mixing up live and qa systems. :)
20:05 cait @later tell tcohen - could you take a look at 9299?
20:05 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
20:12 * druthb wields pointy stick, looks at mtompset suspiciously.
20:12 cait hm?
20:17 * druthb pokes mtompset gently with her pointy stick, to see if he's awake.
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20:23 * mtompset continues to play dead. :P
20:23 mtompset Greetingts, druthb. :)
20:24 cait mtompset: dead don#t talk...
20:24 cait ;)
20:24 mtompset It's a miracle! I'm alive. :P
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21:04 ebegin hey #koha !
21:06 ebegin About the bootstrap theme, do you think that copying xx-XX-i-opac-t-prog-v-3006000.po will do the magic ?
21:07 cait ebegin: no
21:07 cait but there are files for the bootstrap theme on pootle i think
21:07 ebegin cait, that not funny :(
21:07 ebegin s/that/that's
21:07 cait i mean you can try it, but i doubt it
21:07 cait but have you looked at pootle yet?
21:08 ebegin nope. not yet :)
21:08 ebegin Well, I looked at pootle, but not for bootstrap
21:08 cait For german it does not look too bad (and i haven't translated yet):
21:08 cait there is a new separate file, but i think bernardo did some magic, you don't have to start from scratch
21:32 gmcharlt yeah, fortunately many of the strings can carry over
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21:41 eythian hi
21:41 gmcharlt howdy
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21:59 * cait waves to eythian and gmcharlt
22:00 eythian hi cait, gmcharlt.
22:12 eythian jcamins: y'about?
22:22 mtompset Have a good da,y, #koha.
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23:03 eythian gmcharlt: it's MARC::XML 1.0.1 that I'm going to be wanting, right?
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23:04 gmcharlt eythian: correct
23:04 eythian there's something fishy about its version numbering
23:04 eythian it comes out as 1..1
23:04 * eythian might just rebuild it from scratch, see what happens
23:06 eythian still does it. /me overrides.
23:08 eythian there's nothing obviously wrong with it, I dunno whey that's happening.
23:21 cait bad package, no cookie for you.
23:21 cait sorry, couldn't resist... I should probably be sleeping.
23:22 cait :)
23:22 gmcharlt heh
23:22 gmcharlt eythian++
23:22 cait eythian++
23:22 eythian cait: why start now, eh?
23:22 cait yeah, could just stay awake until the meeting..
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23:26 eythian oh hey, there's a meeting in a few hours, should keep that in mind.
23:29 eythian ooh, curry time
23:36 cait enjoy
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