IRC log for #koha, 2013-11-07

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00:13 peggy Hi #koha
00:13 rambuten hi peggy
00:13 peggy I finished the code for my first enhancement for Koha!
00:14 peggy But I don't know how to submit it
00:15 rambuten have you filed a bug yet?
00:15 peggy Yes.  There is a bug
00:17 rambuten[…]i/SubmitingAPatch
00:17 peggy Great!  I'll take a look.
00:17 peggy Thanks
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00:27 gmcharlt peggy++
00:36 pianohacker bye koha
00:39 rangi peggy++
00:40 peggy Is there a naming convention for the git send-email filename?
00:41 eythian if you use git bz, it does it for you
00:41 eythian but essentially, no
00:42 eythian oh, send-email does it for you anyway
00:42 eythian I was thinking format-patch
00:42 eythian which actually also does it for you...
00:42 eythian so, no :)
00:46 peggy Is there a way I can tell if I already have git-bz installed?  My directory was gitified at Kohacon
00:47 eythian type 'git bz' and see what happens :)
00:47 rangi peggy: i dont think i installed git bz for you sorry
00:48 rangi[…]_bz_configuration
00:49 peggy OK.  I'll install it.
01:00 peggy Hmmm...
01:00 peggy peggy@thrasher:~/Documents/git/koha$ git checkout -b fishsoup origin/fishsoup fatal: git checkout: updating paths is incompatible with switching branches. Did you intend to checkout 'origin/fishsoup' which can not be resolved as commit?
01:01 peggy What is fishsoup?
01:03 eythian You're trying to do that in the koha repo, you need to be doing it in a git-bz repo.
01:03 peggy Ah.  OK.  Thanks
01:03 eythian fishsoup is simply the name someone gave to a branch, for mysterious reasons.
01:04 jcamins The author was "fishsoup."
01:04 jcamins (original author)
01:04 jcamins The more you know!
01:06 eythian We didn't get NBC here, so we didn't get the PSAs, so I have no idea about your "The more you know" reference :)
01:07 jcamins Huh.
01:07 * jcamins never knew what that referred to.
01:08 jcamins We didn't have TV service when I was growing up.
01:17 peggy There is a Merge conflict in installer/data/mysql/  Can I keep going submitting the patch?
01:18 peggy This was when I was applying the files that I had stashed.
01:18 eythian you should probably fix the conflict
01:18 jcamins You'll need to resolve the conflict in order to create a patch.
01:19 peggy So I need to reapply my changes to the new version.
01:20 jcamins That's what you were doing when you got the conflict.
01:21 eythian it usually puts the conflict in the file in such a way you can just edit things around to fix it.
01:23 peggy I had added an updatedatabase section.  But in the meantime someone used the same number as I did.  So I took the new file, and added my change to the end and incrementd the number.
01:23 eythian yep
01:23 eythian that's the way to fix it.
01:24 jcamins Actually, you shouldn't have a number in there. You can just set it to 3.15.000.XXX
01:24 jcamins Or just XXX.
01:25 eythian oh, yeah. Forgot about that.
01:27 peggy Ah.  OK
01:31 peggy git: 'bz' is not a git command.
01:31 eythian that means you don't have the git-bz command installed somewhere where git can see it.
01:32 jcamins You need to add your git-bz directory to your path.
01:32 jcamins Or symlink the git-bz executable into a directory in your path.
01:34 peggy echo $PATH /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin​:/usr/local/games:/usr/games  and git-bz is in /usr/local/bin  ??
01:35 jcamins That should work.
01:35 jcamins If you run it as git-bz (with a hyphen), does it work?
01:35 jcamins I actually run "git-bz" not "git bz."
01:36 peggy git-bz produces:  bash: git-bz: command not found
01:38 peggy It says log out and log back in.  I think I didn't do that.
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01:43 peggy Nope.  That didn't help.
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01:54 eythian if you type 'which git-bz', does it say anything?
01:55 eythian also, do 'ls -l /usr/local/bin'
01:55 eythian[…]blishing-industry
01:56 peggy peggy@thrasher:~/Documents/git/koha$ which git-bz peggy@thrasher:~/Documents/git/koha$ ls -l /usr/local/bin total 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root staff 19 Nov  6 20:06 git-bz -> /root/git-bz/git-bz peggy@thrasher:~/Documents/git/koha$
01:56 peggy Which git-bz gave me nothing
01:56 eythian oh, you have it in /root, that won't work
01:57 eythian no one can read /root except the root user
01:57 eythian I'd just move the git-bz directory to your home directory, and link to there.
02:02 peggy cd ~
02:03 peggy OK.  It's been a long time (18 years) since I've worked on Unix.  I assumed that if I clicked on the directory called "Home" that I would get to my home directory.  This is not the case?
02:04 peggy cd ~ takes me to the directory that contains the git-bz directory.
02:04 eythian what is the output of pwd?
02:04 jcamins peggy: oh, you're logged in as root? That's not good.
02:05 eythian jcamins: not looking at the command prompt above
02:05 peggy No.  I'm not logged in as root.  But I may have been when I did some of the git-bz installation stuff.
02:05 peggy pwd says /home/peggy/git-bz
02:05 eythian I suspect you have two copies
02:05 eythian and you're symlinking to the wrong one
02:05 eythian ...
02:05 eythian I know
02:05 eythian you used su to do the link
02:05 jcamins eythian: oh, right.
02:06 eythian and also used ~
02:06 eythian and so it linked to /root
02:06 eythian that'll be why you get "not found" rather than "permission denied"
02:06 eythian so: sudo rm /usr/local/bin/git-bz
02:06 eythian then: sudo ln -s ~/git-bz/git-bz /usr/local/bin/git-bz
02:06 peggy I don't have sudo permissions.  I have to log in as root to sudo
02:07 eythian use sudo to give yourselve sudo permissions :)
02:07 jcamins Okay, su, then `ln -s /home/peggy/git-bz/git-bz /usr/local/bin/git-bz` will do it
02:07 eythian err
02:08 eythian use su to give yourself sudo permissions
02:15 peggy OK.  Now it is finding git bz
02:15 peggy How exciting!
02:17 eythian :)
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02:20 rambutan how did rambuten get on here?
02:21 eythian magic?
02:21 wahanui
02:22 rambutan more like somebody moved my mouse at work?
02:29 bag peggy++
02:29 * bag was just reading the scrollback
02:32 peggy 8^)
02:32 peggy Trying to understand git...  Do I need to git add before I make my changes?  Should I be committing or stashing?
02:34 mtompset Greetings, peggy.
02:35 mtompset git checkout -b bug_I_am_working_on origin/master
02:35 mtompset vi file1
02:35 mtompset git add file1
02:35 mtompset vi file2
02:35 mtompset git add file2
02:35 mtompset git commit
02:36 mtompset start the commit message with "Bug #####" corresponding to the bug report you filed on bugzilla.
02:36 mtompset Assuming you've installed git bz...
02:36 mtompset git bz attach ##### HEAD
02:37 mtompset where ##### corresponds to the bug number you have created on bugzilla.
02:37 mtompset This is an simple example case.
02:37 peggy Yes, I have.  I'll try that.  The first submission is always the most fun...
02:37 peggy Thank you for the steps.  I wasn't adding nor committing.   Much obliged!
02:37 mtompset Now, let's say you do something like submit it without checking it... and oops, there is a typo. :)
02:37 mtompset vi file_with_typo
02:38 mtompset git add file_with_typo
02:38 mtompset git commit --amend
02:38 mtompset git bz attach ##### HEAD
02:38 mtompset and hopefully it will obsolete it on bugzilla, but sometimes it doesn't.
02:39 mtompset go to the bugzilla page.
02:39 mtompset click details beside the one to obsolete.
02:39 mtompset click the 'edit details' link.
02:39 mtompset and then check obsolete and click submit with no comments. :)
02:40 peggy Bugzilla has nothing currently.  So I think I can start at the beginning, and cross my fingers!
02:40 mtompset some people do the git add's after all the vi's.
02:40 mtompset order doesn't matter, except the you git add BEFORE git commit. :)
02:41 mtompset ^the^that^
02:41 peggy And the edits after you checkout...
02:41 mtompset and you edit BEFORE git add. :)
02:42 mtompset you can git add before you edit, but that is basically does nothing, and then it hasn't added your changes. :)
02:42 peggy OK.
02:43 eythian add is just saying "I have changes now, include them when I commit"
02:43 mtompset exactly.
02:53 peggy I was expecting that I could test the changes before committing them, but it throws me into the web installer?
02:54 eythian that's because your database is at a different version to the code
02:54 eythian you can probably get away with running the installer
02:54 jcamins peggy: you can, but you just updated your Koha so you have to run the webinstaller to update.
02:55 peggy OK
02:55 eythian keep in mind that (typically) this won't run any code that you added to the installer/updater thingy
02:56 jcamins eythian: yes it will. That's what XXX means. If you run the updater, any code with an XXX version gets run.
02:56 peggy I did make a db change.  I'm not sure how I got it applied earlier to test it.  If I commit it and try it in a sandbox will it apply my db change?
02:57 peggy Ah.  Let me try it then.
02:57 eythian jcamins: oh, it didn't last I looked, which was a long time ago.
02:57 jcamins eythian: it's done that since 3.2.
02:57 eythian yeah, like I said, a long time.
02:57 jcamins Or maybe 3.4.
03:05 peggy To do the web installer, I use the username and password from koha-conf.xml, right?  What if that doesn't work?  You guys are very patient with me!!
03:07 eythian that's right, and if it doesn't work, that means you have typed them wrong :)
03:08 peggy It is in /etc/koha/sites/koha?
03:09 eythian probably, yes
03:09 eythian definitely somewhere under /etc/koha/sites
03:09 mtompset sudo xmlstarlet sel -t -v 'yazgfs/config/pass' /etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml
03:10 mtompset where library is the name of your instance, so modify accordingly.
03:10 mtompset (well, that's for packages)
03:11 mtompset ~/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml if you did a default git installation.
03:11 eythian it's gitified
03:12 eythian so package layout
03:12 mtompset Ah.
03:12 mtompset I didn't know how gitfy works.
03:15 bag it's awesome seeing everyone helping out peggy with learning git :)  you all go
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03:16 peggy OK.  Now I can install.  But it doesn't like my updatedatabase edits.  It is too late tonight to fix this.  I'll try again tomorrow.
03:16 peggy Thank You!!!  Thank You!!! Thank you for all the help.
03:16 eythian no worries :)
03:17 peggy Good night!
03:17 wahanui It'll all be over soon...
03:18 eythian later
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04:28 mtompset question...
04:28 wahanui somebody said question was "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?"
04:28 mtompset If I was adding a field to a table.
04:28 mtompset Do I modify the CREATE TABLE definition in kohastructure.sql too?
04:28 mtompset Or do I add an ALTER TABLE to show the difference?
04:29 eythian both
04:31 mtompset you mean modify the CREATE TABLE in kohastructure.sql, and put ALTER TABLE in updatedatabase.sql, eythian?
04:31 eythian yes
04:32 mtompset at this point in time, do I have to figure out the whole schema mess and modify something else?
04:34 eythian that depends on whether anything else needs modified.
04:34 eythian Probably not though.
04:35 mtompset well, I just refactored the news systems.
04:35 mtompset because they were passing way too many parameters.
04:36 mtompset and a hash ref was easier to add the one more field.
04:36 eythian cool
04:37 mtompset I'm sure there are optimizations that could be added to my code, but it's to a testable point now. :)
04:37 mtompset this is related to bug 7567
04:37 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7567 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, ASSIGNED , News by Library
04:37 eythian oh, cool. That'll be useful.
04:38 mtompset Probably won't get a patch posted tonight, but probably tomorrow.
04:39 eythian ok
04:39 mtompset I still have to get the filtering working on the news page in the staff client.
04:50 mtompset eythian: Have you played with news? I was wondering... does it make sense to display "All Locations", when you just filtered for a specific set?
04:51 eythian I don't understand the questions, so that's probably a 'no' to your first question :)
04:51 mtompset well "All", when you filtered for "Slip"?
04:51 mtompset That behaviour seems weird to me.
04:52 eythian it quite possibly is. Things like that are worth taking to the koha list to get input from users.
04:53 mtompset I think I'll do that.
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05:24 mtompset Well that was an interesting blip.
05:24 mtompset Email sent. Filtering the only thing left to look into. I'm pleased with progress for a change. :)
05:25 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha! :)
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07:10 * magnuse waves
07:28 * cait waves back
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07:44 magnuse bonjour papa
07:44 cait bbl
07:44 magnuse hm
07:44 magnuse bonjour paul_p
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07:44 paul_p hello magnuse
07:45 papa bonjour, ça va?
07:46 magnuse sehr gut ;-)
07:47 magnuse sorry if i woke you up papa, i tab completed on one char to little :-)
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07:48 papa no worries, I was about to sign out, so you just woke me up a bit
07:48 reiveune hello
07:49 magnuse papa: good :-)
07:49 magnuse bonjour reiveune
07:49 reiveune hi magnuse :)
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07:51 papa bye everyone
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08:25 marcelr hi #koha
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08:29 gaetan_B hello
08:29 wahanui hola, gaetan_B
08:31 marcelr hi gaetan_B
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09:03 marcelr hi kf, gmcharlt]
09:03 marcelr without ]
09:05 kf hi marcelr
09:05 kf good catch
09:06 kf @later tell jcamins ping me when you are awake please?
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09:18 * Oak waves
09:18 Oak @wunder islamabad
09:18 Oak magnuse
09:21 magnuse Oak
09:24 Oak \o/
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10:10 vfernandes Hi :)
10:11 vfernandes can anyone give me a little help or a tutorial of building hierarquical authorities?
10:13 ashimema anyone here ever manage to run koha on plack without Plack::Middleware::Debug installed?
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10:34 drojf hi #koha
10:35 vfernandes it's possible to link authorities to authorities?
10:42 kf yrd
10:42 kf yes
10:42 kf you can make hierarchies
10:47 kivilahtio a colleague in northern Finland is testing Koha and just emailed me a error message "ssl_error_record_too_long". Apparently he got it from circ/ -> "View all libraries" which tries to open up a https-connection?
10:48 vfernandes using $3 in fields 4XX and 5XX of UNIMARC?
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11:05 kf vfernandes: hm unimarc, not quite sure there
11:05 kf i tested it with marc21
11:05 kf maybe i canfind the bug sec
11:06 kf it's in 3.12
11:06 kf vfernandes: bug 8523 maybe
11:07 kf 3.10 even
11:24 drojf somebody destroyed the cleanup_database cronjob. i hope it wasn't me
11:25 magnuse hm, is it possible to send overdue letters for just one materialtype, and not for the others?
11:26 drojf hmm. it looks ok on master. why is it broken for us then? :/
11:26 magnuse drojf: destoyed in what sense?
11:28 drojf as in Bareword "DEFAULT_MAIL_PURGEDAYS" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/ line 88.
11:28 drojf Execution of /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/ aborted due to compilation errors.
11:28 drojf there is a line missing for me
11:29 drojf i don't know why though. that's odd
11:29 vfernandes kf: that bug that Koha only supported UNIMARC, since Koha 3.10 supports MARC21 also
11:29 marcelr line 24: use constant DEFAULT_MAIL_PURGEDAYS => 30;
11:30 drojf marcelr: i know
11:30 drojf marcelr: i just don't know why i don't have it :D
11:30 marcelr git?
11:30 wahanui it has been said that git is[…]Control_Using_Git
11:30 drojf how can i git blame one line a few steps back?
11:30 drojf (if possible)
11:31 magnuse drojf: which version are you on?
11:32 marcelr perhaps option  -L <start>,<end> ?
11:33 drojf magnuse: 3.12.05, but with extra patches. including one for that particular file
11:34 magnuse this is what the file looks like at the HEAD of the 3.12.x branch:[…]4608630a3c90fa0ee
11:34 magnuse looks like DEFAULT_MAIL_PURGEDAYS is not used there
11:35 drojf oh. thanks magnuse! that's helpful
11:36 drojf not sure why i have half of it then, but that may be due to my patch shifting lines or something
11:37 magnuse DEFAULT_MAIL_PURGEDAYS seems to have been introduced by this patch:[…]5248df03dd6ec8224
11:37 magnuse bug 8584
11:37 * magnuse waves to khall
11:38 khall Morning!
11:38 wahanui morning is a state of cat
11:38 magnuse drojf: and 8584 is just pushed to master, not stable
11:40 drojf magnuse: but i have all of it, just not the constant declaration. weird.
11:41 drojf oh no, wrong machine maybe :D
11:41 magnuse lol
11:44 drojf true, i don't have the lines from that patch, but one. which causes the error
11:45 drojf i consider that git weirdness. :)
11:45 drojf magnuse++
11:47 magnuse :-)
11:47 * magnuse wanders off in search of lunch
11:47 * drojf is hungr too
11:47 drojf hungry even
11:54 drojf in advanced search, if you leave the first of the three search fields blank and use the second or the third, it uses the search parameter of field one! is that a known bug?
11:55 drojf (or feature)
12:09 kf drojf: yes
12:09 kf i filed it
12:09 kf is that in the current version?
12:09 kf because jared claimed he fixed it - maybe it needs the query parser
12:16 ashimema any big bz aficionados in here?
12:16 ashimema strugging to get a patch to attach
12:19 * ashimema feels a bit silly... it was just a missing password in my conf
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12:39 drojf kf: ah, ok. i will try the queryparser anyway today. or at least i am meaning to. without it i have it in 3.12
12:40 kf it won't work if you have opacsuppression tho
12:40 kf just a warnin
12:40 kf g
12:40 kf ashimema: you solved it - that should not make you feel silly :)
12:40 kf jcamins: pingpingping
12:40 kf where is he when you need him? :)
12:41 drojf kf: what? the queryparser?
12:41 kf jcamins:
12:42 kf i have some questions for him - unrelated to your question
12:43 drojf do i still have to do some things in order to activate queryparser? or just enable it in the staff client? i remember i was confused the last time i looked at it
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12:50 drojf the search query seems to be different so apparently there is nothing else to do. wouldn't it make sense to change the info of the syspref then? it tells me i have to install stuff
12:51 drojf kf: anyway the problem with the search fields is still in 3.12. do you know the number (or vague title) of your bug?
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12:56 samueld hi everybody
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12:58 kf hm let me find it
13:00 kf someone developed a jquery fix for it
13:02 kf drojf: bug 7697
13:02 kf um
13:02 kf bug 7607
13:02 kf and the jquery there seems to be working, i use it in one of our installations
13:04 magnuse huginn fell over?
13:04 drojf kf: thanks, i'll have a look
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13:05 drojf why did i not find that bug when i searched for "advanced search"? :/
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13:14 oleonard Hi #koha
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13:34 talljoy mornin #koha oleonard
13:43 magnuse hiya talljoy and oleonard
13:44 talljoy hi magnuse
13:44 magnuse :-)
13:45 magnuse @wunder boo
13:45 magnuse gah
13:45 * magnuse misses huginn
13:45 magnuse huginn?
13:45 wahanui somebody said huginn was a bot, not a person.
13:46 oleonard huginn on another bender?
13:47 kf i think gmcharlt can bring huginn back
14:04 rambutan news of the morning:
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14:20 druthb o/  :)
14:21 kf hi druthb
14:22 druthb kf!
14:31 tcohen jonathan
14:31 wahanui jonathan is there... But at the moment in a meeting
14:31 tcohen jonathan's nick?
14:32 oleonard Joubu
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14:32 druthb Hi, tcohen!
14:33 tcohen hi druthb
14:34 kf brb
14:34 tcohen October 6th 2014 onwards, #kohacon14
14:34 tcohen how does it sound? (not gramatically, of course)
14:34 drojf lol
14:34 drojf sounds good to me
14:34 kf october sounds good :)
14:35 tcohen is 1 week enough?
14:36 kf no
14:36 drojf make it a month \o/
14:37 tcohen seriously, we could extend a couple of days more the following week
14:37 tcohen but it will depend on all of you wanting that
14:40 drojf for me that will depend on whether i can come at all. if i can make the flight i'd probably prefer to stay an extra day or two. or three
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14:44 kf sorry, had to reboot
14:44 jcamins tcohen: sounds reasonable. I don't think there are any highly observant Jews in the community.
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14:45 tcohen Iom Kipur is October 3rd right?=
14:45 rambutan tcohen: for me, the earlier in October the better
14:46 jcamins Yeah, so anyone flying in wouldn't be able to leave until the fifth.
14:46 tcohen ohhh
14:47 jcamins If they were observant.
14:47 tcohen r u?
14:47 tcohen :D
14:48 jcamins Not really.
14:50 magnuse tcohen: sounds like an excellent plan!
14:50 rambutan tcohen: if I attend (by self-funding) I plan to arrive a couple of days early and stay a couple of days late for sightseeing on my own
14:51 tcohen :-D
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14:57 paul_p tcohen = oct 6th is fine for me. About the duration, I'm one of the ones who thinks that travelling so far is worth being as long as possible. But others think that travelling too long may result in not getting permission/possibility to come at all.
14:58 rambutan tcohen: what do you suppose hotel rates would be in the area of the conference?
14:58 paul_p tcohen I feel it's an undecidable question
14:59 tcohen rambutan: we'll look for more than one option
14:59 tcohen but it is more or less 40 US$ to 60 US$
14:59 rambutan Ah, good. Can handle that.
15:00 rambutan tcohen: and I would suppose that Argentina has adequate supplies of coffee? There is no life without coffee.
15:00 tcohen I think we can make it a week (as in Reno) and have everything solved for those who want to stay longer for a long Hackfest
15:00 tcohen Coffee is not an issue, you can be sure :-D
15:00 jcamins Someone is doing heavy construction in the building.
15:00 tcohen jcamins: ouch
15:00 jcamins I'm pretty sure it's management.
15:01 jcamins We were not informed.
15:01 rambutan we would hope that as opposed to an earthquake?
15:01 * jcamins is very annoyed.
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15:02 tcohen rambutan: there are cheaper accomodations too
15:02 jcamins I don't care they're doing construction, but they made me fill out a whole bunch of paperwork to tell them that I was going to be painting.
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15:04 vfernandes can anyone tell me how to do Koha hierarquical auths?
15:08 kf have you tried turning ont he pref mentioned in the bug?
15:08 vfernandes yes...
15:08 kf hm not sure if you need to link a plugin to the fields
15:08 kf so you can link
15:08 vfernandes AuthDisplayHierarchy is on
15:09 vfernandes[…]thid=22110&marc=1 -> 450 filled
15:10 vfernandes on $3 there is the auth ID for a broader term
15:11 dpavlin hi, #koha. I'm having problem with master - if I edit patron it also gets manual restriction - is there a bug to address this which I can't find?
15:12 oleonard Hi dpavlin
15:12 * oleonard tests
15:13 * oleonard confirms
15:13 oleonard Yuck.
15:13 oleonard There's no bug yet for that as far as I know dpavlin
15:13 dpavlin I will investigate a bit more and submit but for that, then :-)
15:14 jcamins Ugh. The construction is diagonally across the hall, one floor up.
15:15 jcamins That apartment is facing in a different direction than ours.
15:15 jcamins And yet the construction noise is coming in through the window.
15:15 oleonard When did PTFS kill Not that I'm surprised.
15:16 oleonard I'm sure PTFS doesn't like documents showing that anyone used Koha before Liblime came along.
15:17 jcamins And the vibration is strong enough to get the bubbles out of concrete.
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15:24 vfernandes kf it's working but only for field 5XX
15:27 jcamins vfernandes: the authority hierarchies only apply to 5xx fields.
15:28 vfernandes yes now I know :D
15:28 jcamins 450 is a "see from" reference, so there should never be an authority record associated with that field.
15:28 oleonard @later tell wizzyrea There are links to and that should be deactivated on this page:
15:28 oleonard Oh damn I can't @later.
15:28 * oleonard @later's himself
15:28 marjorie hi, someone can explain the sys pref noissuecharge? i put 5.00 in noissuecharge and i have 5.00 $ fines but i am not blocked, i can always make checkout. If i have 5.01 fines, it works.
15:29 tcohen vfernandes: did u take a look at my work on the timezone problem you had?
15:29 vfernandes yes tcohen
15:29 vfernandes but the problem was another
15:30 vfernandes I had some patrons with expiry date at '9999-12-31'
15:31 vfernandes when using DateTime->new with that date and timezone it tooks a loots of CPU cycles
15:31 vfernandes and because of that the loans were too damn slow
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15:39 vfernandes One improvement to authorities could be direct links at narrower, broader terms if $3 is filled instead of do a search for the term:[…]
15:52 kf hmm interesting
15:52 wahanui hmmm... interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
15:52 kf it looks like the encoding in the ils-di-documentation went back to iso??
15:52 kf "&lt;?xml version=\"1.0\" encoding=\"ISO-8859-1\" ?&gt; &lt;dlf:collection xmlns:dlf=\"\" xmlns:xsi=
15:55 Joubu tcohen:[…]rderby=HeadingAsc
15:55 Joubu I am testing bug 10691
15:56 tcohen user?
15:56 wahanui user is logged in already eh?
15:56 Joubu auth1 (id=1) is linked to auth2 (id=2) in 400$a and auth3 (id=3) in 500$a
15:56 Joubu tcohen: test/test
15:57 tcohen it seems to work
15:57 jcamins Joubu: 4xx fields in authorities aren't linkable.
15:57 Joubu tcohen: in your test plan, you said: - Check the 'see also:' link points to the authority id for linked authorities,   and to an authority search result in the case of plain text entries.
15:58 Joubu I don't see a link to a auth search for 400$a and 500$a which are not linked
15:58 tcohen 'used for/see from' are expected to show plain text
15:58 jcamins That looks correct to me.
15:59 tcohen the only thing I did was make an exact link to the authid when linked, and a search when free text
15:59 tcohen i'm not an expert on authorities, just followed what was told here to be the expected behaviour
15:59 Joubu tcohen: ho yes, it is good now...
16:00 Joubu zebra has certainly indexed meanwhile
16:00 Joubu so, it is good :)
16:00 tcohen and the other related bug just removes unnecesary occurrence of the labels
16:00 Joubu kf: maybe would you like to have a look?
16:01 tcohen maybe kf saw something broken on the opac?
16:02 Joubu tcohen: I applied 10987, it works great :)
16:03 tcohen Joubu: :-D
16:04 vfernandes another problem found: once authtrees are builded in UNIMARC they can't be updated
16:04 vfernandes there is any script to force that?
16:04 jcamins vfernandes: I think that's by design.
16:05 vfernandes yes but the building isn't being done everytime
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16:06 nengard Does anyone know if the slip that prints on the self checkout uses the ISSUESLIP or the ISSUEQSLIP or neither?
16:06 jcamins Right, because the feature was designed to not update under UNIMARC. I don't know why, but I didn't change it when I extended the feature to MARC21.
16:07 jcamins If you think that's a bug, I certainly wouldn't object to changing it.
16:07 reiveune bye
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16:13 jcamins vfernandes: I think that fredericd might have a script that he uses somewhere.
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16:18 vfernandes thanks jcamins
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16:23 kf tcohen: might be a data problem with 10691 - but it certainly happened for me :(
16:23 kf i will test again when the patch is in
16:24 kf oh
16:33 rambutan well, that bites
16:33 rambutan I guess we can't do HTML email to the list.
16:39 * oleonard will brb
16:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #106: STILL UNSTABLE in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/106/
16:44 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9618: Add support for intranetuserjs to labels/
16:44 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9618: (follow-up) include link to jQuery only if needed
16:44 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10570: Show nonpublic note on check expiration page
16:44 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 8821: make receive shipment page hide inactive funds like new order form
16:44 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10841: Make edit/delete item context links in cataloguing translatable
16:44 jenkins_koha * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 9372: replace carriage return with <br /> in printed HTML files for overdues
16:44 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 9372: (follow-up) tidy whitespace in new lines
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17:12 drojf i have a marc framework without visible 041$j. however, i know there is 041$j data in the record. if i switch to a framework with visible 041$j, i only get an empty one, but do not see the existing data in this subfield. is that a regression? i am quite sure that has worked before (for other fields). i am on 3.12
17:12 tcohen kf?
17:12 wahanui kf is very interested in accessibility
17:14 drojf i can see the fields in staff client if i switch the framework. but not in cataloguing
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17:26 * kf uploads a complete bootstrap opac translation
17:35 gaetan_B bye !
17:50 oleonard kf++
17:50 kf bye all
17:50 tcohen bye kf
17:50 kf oleonard: still lots to do :)
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18:09 tcohen gmcharlt: around?
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18:17 tcohen @later tell rangi Bernardo's node is set with a 3.12.x db
18:17 mtompset oleonard++ # for being the only one to reply, thus far.
18:18 mtompset Greetings, #koha tcohen.
18:18 tcohen hi mtompset
18:18 rangi tcohen: nice!
18:18 tcohen should we set a 3.10 db too?
18:19 rangi sounds good, where is the config for the 3.12.x one?
18:19 rangi i need to set the path in the jenkins config
18:19 tcohen at ~jenkins/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml I think
18:20 tcohen we found there was that already in place, so we put the DB where it was configured to
18:20 rangi sweet
18:21 tcohen bug 10335 doens't fix things for bootstrap
18:24 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.[…].12.x/107/console
18:24 rangi giving it a test
18:25 tcohen fingers crossed
18:26 rangi it'll take a while to do the first git checkout
18:26 rangi and im bound to have made a typo somewhere :)
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18:28 tcohen heh, thanks rangi
18:29 * cait waves
18:30 rangi hi cait
18:30 cait hi rangi
18:30 cait how are things on the other side? :)
18:31 mtompset other side?
18:31 rangi rainy
18:32 rangi @wunder nzwn
18:32 rangi no huggin eh
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18:34 cait nope
18:34 cait maybe on vacation?
18:34 cait mtompset: theother side of the world, or in the future.... whatever :)
18:35 mtompset Ah...
18:35 mtompset Thanks for the clarification, cait. By the way, hello to both you and rangi. :)
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18:52 rangi drojf: there's a bunch of club mate coming for kiwicon
18:54 rangi drojf:[…]98295766503936000
18:54 rangi also[…]98394392622297088
18:54 jcamins drojf: seems to me that's a longstanding bug.
18:54 jcamins I remember being bothered by it in 3.6.
18:54 rangi and[…]98296076945342465
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19:09 tcohen martin?
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19:11 tcohen does anyone know martin's nick?
19:11 tcohen cait?
19:11 wahanui cait: go to bed
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19:12 cait ashimema :)
19:13 tcohen @later tell ashimema take a look at tge "Building Debian Packages - The Easy Way" wiki page, surprise!
19:13 drojf err. thanks pidgin that i am talking to myself for 10 minutes now
19:13 drojf (20:03:13) drojf: lol rangi that' cool
19:13 drojf (20:03:20) drojf: jcamins: the framework thing?
19:14 jcamins drojf: yes.
19:14 jenkins_koha Starting build #107 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #98 1 mo 0 days ago)
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19:14 drojf jcamins: good to know. but weird. i am sure i have seen this work before
19:15 drojf also i am not sure what to do with the records now. i assume if i change the framework and save it will lose the data have to try that later
19:16 drojf there is a . missing somewhere ;)
19:16 tcohen byeee
19:16 jcamins drojf: I just changed everything to the default framework in the database.
19:18 drojf jcamins: oh yes, doing it in sql sounds like a good idea if we have a lot of those. i don't know yet
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19:50 drojf jcamins: ha! there is no 041$j in the default framework! my colleague must have added it to her dvd framework. so maybe the problem will just disappear when i add it to the default
19:51 drojf ar at least never happen again afterwards
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20:01 * mtompset puts on his, "pick up son at bus stop, and then become chauffeur for wife" hat.
20:01 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
20:01 tcohen rangi: Devel::Cover::Report?
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20:18 tcohen @later tell rangi I installed the missing Devel::Cover::Report::Clover library and created a missing directory with 'jenkins' permissions
20:19 rangi awesome thank you
20:25 rangi tcohen: trying again now
20:25 jenkins_koha Starting build #108 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #98 1 mo 0 days ago)
20:25 cait fingers crossed :)
20:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #108: STILL FAILING in 2 min 42 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/108/
20:28 rangi ah ha
20:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #109 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #98 1 mo 0 days ago)
20:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #109: STILL FAILING in 15 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/109/
20:30 rangi @later tell tcohen we need TAP::Harness::JUnit too please
20:33 maximep is something wrong with ?
20:35 oleonard Not working for me either maximep
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20:48 * wizzyrea waves
20:48 rangi welcome back wizzyrea
20:49 rangi how was perth? hot?
20:49 wizzyrea 25ish - nice town though
20:49 * cait waves at wizzyrea
20:49 wizzyrea "town" with 1.5 million people
20:50 wizzyrea Melbourne was more interesting, Perth was friendlier
20:50 wizzyrea both were warmish
20:51 wizzyrea JesseM - In the future if you notice the community website being down, please notify myself, or gmcharlt. Thanks.
20:51 JesseM will do :P
20:51 wizzyrea that goes for anybody really ;)
20:52 wizzyrea email works well, as that goes to my phone - wizzyrea at gmail
20:52 jcamins wizzyrea: were you telling me you made a cauliflower pizza that was supremely delicious?
20:53 wizzyrea yes :)
20:53 jcamins Yay!
20:53 jcamins Where might I find the recipe?
20:53 wizzyrea one second
20:53 wizzyrea there are two different cauliflower crusts, one of which I have tried, the other I have not.
20:54 jcamins Oh, not vegan?
20:54 * jcamins thoguht it was a cheese replacement.
20:54 jcamins *thought
20:54 jcamins Though cauliflower crust sounds good too.
20:55 wizzyrea http://www.endofthreefitness.c[…]ower-pizza-crust/ no it's a crust replacement
20:55 wizzyrea grain/flour
20:55 rangi and this
20:55 cait hm someone with a master install around?
20:55 rangi is the winning move
20:55 rangi 09:51 < jrochkind> So all that new RDA stuff for format/carrier? It still doesn't provide clear  indication of things that are DVD's, or CD's, or blu-ray, etc. ARGH.
20:55 rangi 09:51 < jrochkind> "video on optical disk" is the best you get.
20:55 cait could you confirm one can not save a patron with empty birhtdate?
20:55 * wizzyrea will check 2 shakes
20:55 wizzyrea new or existing borrower?
20:55 cait ok, this is weird... but probably not reproducable
20:56 cait forget i asked
20:56 jcamins Ooh, that looks delicious.
20:56 cait my patron somehow had a 00/00/02 date
20:56 cait no idea how that happened, and then i couldn't save, but second time it worked... i think data maybe, but no idea ho wit happened
20:56 oleonard rangi: I thought the RDA cabal hadn't even gotten around to covering anything other than books
20:56 jcamins That crust looks magnificent. I will make that.
20:57 cait but thx wizzyrea for offering :) wizzyrea++
20:57 wizzyrea oh oh oh
20:57 wizzyrea cait that seems like a problem in the date plugin
20:58 wizzyrea you are using euro dates not us dates?
20:58 jcamins I'm not sure what to put it on, though.
20:58 cait us still
20:58 wizzyrea jcamins: look up paleo pizza for ideas
20:58 cait almost clean sample database
20:58 jcamins cait: sounds like bad data in your patron categories.
20:58 jcamins cait: I've seen that before.
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20:58 cait in the date of birth?
20:58 jcamins Oh.
20:58 jcamins No.
20:58 cait :)
20:58 jcamins Sorry.
20:59 jcamins I've seen it in expiration date.
20:59 cait but yeah, we had trouble with the dates before
20:59 cait i will see if it happens again
20:59 wizzyrea it was similar trouble
20:59 wizzyrea with .... suspending holds I think
20:59 cait right now i confirmed that due notices don't seem to work :(
20:59 wizzyrea something to do with the jquery date plugin needing a config fil
20:59 wizzyrea file*
20:59 wizzyrea ew.
20:59 cait patron has email address, predue + digest is checked, item is due today.... generates... nothing
21:00 cait so... either i missed something, or it#s true
21:00 wizzyrea cait - predue isn't due
21:00 cait sorry
21:00 cait i mean due
21:00 cait just confusing my words
21:00 wizzyrea k :)
21:00 jcamins I have kale and eggplant.
21:00 cait and i really checked item due
21:00 cait in the messaging preferences
21:00 jcamins I'm not sure how either of those will turn into a pizza topping.
21:01 cait we have that happen for a library we updated from 3.6 to 3.12 :(
21:01 cait it worked nicely before the update, now it doesn't - trying to find out why
21:02 wizzyrea hm, grilled eggplant would be awesome on pizza
21:02 * cait agrees
21:03 wizzyrea but you'd probably have to grill it first and then put it on the pizza
21:03 jcamins Right.
21:03 wizzyrea and then bake it a bit.
21:03 jcamins And then it would just be grilled eggplant on top of a cauliflower pizza crust.
21:03 wizzyrea with sauce
21:03 wizzyrea you are avoiding cheese?
21:03 * cait is going to do git bisect! heh
21:03 jcamins I only have a half cup.
21:03 cait it works in my 3.6.10 check out
21:03 cait and now i will try to be quiet
21:04 jcamins I do have sauce, though.
21:04 wizzyrea ! why for?
21:04 jcamins We have so much food that I really need to limit myself to food already in the house. Unfortunately, I want pizza.
21:05 jcamins The CSA finally started having good harvests.
21:05 cait jcamins: got mine today too :)
21:06 cait i got white cabbage - no idea what to do with it yet
21:06 jcamins White cabbage?
21:06 cait dictionary suggested that...
21:06 wizzyrea napa cabbage?
21:06 jcamins Looks the same as regular cabbage to me.
21:06 cait this:
21:07 cait it's light green hard and huge?
21:07 rambutan CSA?
21:08 jcamins cait: in the US that's just "cabbage."
21:08 jcamins I guess in other countries it's not just cabbage.
21:08 cait noted, we should correct the dictionary :)
21:08 jcamins rambutan: Community Supported Agriculture.
21:08 rambutan ah
21:09 cait mine is different, we have an island in the lake that's famous for growing veggies - and i get a delivery once a week - it's fun :)
21:11 jcamins Ooh, I also have bok cho.
21:11 jcamins *choy
21:12 cait tomatos, lettuce, cress, carrots, cabbage... giant leek
21:12 cait hm and... rocket ?
21:13 jcamins Yeah, it's rocket in most places.
21:13 jcamins Except New York, apparently, where it's arugula.
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21:13 wizzyrea you know I got a rocket and arugula salad once.
21:13 wizzyrea it was a lot of rocket.
21:13 cait :)
21:14 wizzyrea i put them into "misc lettuces"
21:14 jcamins wizzyrea: really?
21:14 wizzyrea :P
21:14 wizzyrea yea, it was bizarre
21:14 wizzyrea the "edible green things" category
21:15 rambutan I grow lots of stuff in my garden. Bushels of eggplant in particular. Wish you all lived nearby. I sometimes bring in 30lbs a day and try to get the staff to eat them.
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21:15 oleonard Bye guys
21:15 cait bye oleonard :)
21:15 rambutan I should say 30lbs daily for a couple of months
21:15 jcamins Let's see... I have kale, sweet potatoes, baby bok choy, broccoli, cauliflower, and more bell peppers.
21:16 cait rambutan: yum :)
21:16 cait jcamins: sounds good too :)
21:16 jcamins And an eggplant.
21:16 jcamins I was hoping to get a second, but that didn't happen.
21:16 cait oh
21:16 rambutan now if I could just figure out how to grow smoked oysters I'd be set
21:17 wizzyrea there are always mountain oysters.
21:17 jcamins wizzyrea: ooh, you know what I made with kale that was delicious?
21:17 jcamins I made a kale tart with a pear compote.
21:18 jcamins It was really, really good.
21:18 cait interestng
21:18 jcamins Astonishingly good.
21:18 jcamins I was kind of surprised how successful it was, in fact.
21:18 wizzyrea ok that does sound yummy
21:19 jcamins Yeah, it sounded yummy when I thought it up, but just "yummy."
21:19 jcamins Not "best thing ever," which it may have been.
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21:20 eythian hi
21:20 cait *sigh*
21:20 cait bug 9362
21:20 wizzyrea so, cait - notices, an upgraded system loses it's ability to do due notices? apparently?
21:20 wizzyrea huginn is away
21:21 cait wizzyrea: new systems as well
21:21 cait since july
21:21 cait bug 9362 is what gitbisect came up with
21:21 cait it 'fixed it'
21:21 cait and broke due
21:21 rangi fixed it good
21:21 cait hmpf.
21:22 jcamins bug 9362
21:22 wahanui rumour has it bug 9362 is what gitbisect came up with
21:22 cait jcamins: huginn is not here
21:22 * jcamins refuses to acknowledge this.
21:22 jcamins huginn: bug 9362?
21:22 wahanui i think bug 9362 is what gitbisect came up with
21:23 cait jcamins: it's ok, i am usre he will be back soon ... don't be sad
21:23 jcamins @later tell huggin bug 9362?
21:23 jcamins :)
21:24 rangi its a tiny patch
21:24 cait hm due notices broken.. blocker? critical?
21:24 rambutan @wunder 64507
21:24 druthb @later tell huginn @quote random
21:24 cait probably only major
21:24 * druthb chuckles, and wanders off.
21:24 rambutan huginn still out-of-the-office
21:24 rangi FROM issues
21:24 rangi LEFT JOIN items USING (itemnumber)
21:24 rangi LEFT OUTER JOIN branches USING (branchcode)
21:24 rangi -WhERE returndate is NULL
21:24 rangi -AND ( TO_DAYS( NOW() )-TO_DAYS( date_due ) ) < ?
21:24 rangi +WHERE returndate is NULL
21:24 rangi +HAVING days_until_due > 0 AND days_until_due < ?
21:24 rangi anyone spot the problem?
21:25 jcamins What's the query for?
21:25 cait having days_until_due > 0
21:26 rangi due dates
21:26 rangi yep
21:26 rangi =>
21:26 cait you are faster than me :) i just filed the bug - it's bug 11218
21:26 rangi if you want ones that are due
21:27 cait i just wonder why it was changed in the first place
21:28 rangi before it was picking up all overdues too
21:28 rangi is what the patch says
21:28 rangi This patch corrects an error in its handling of the maxdays parameter that resulted in it picking up *all* upcoming due loans and recently overdue loans
21:29 cait hm wondeirng
21:29 cait just changing it to >= 0 should work?
21:29 rangi try it and see
21:29 rangi but yes
21:29 rangi for due anyway
21:29 cait yeha it seems logical, but of course i will test :)
21:29 cait it will work for predue too
21:29 cait it checks there, we have seen that looking for the bug in the code
21:29 rangi yep
21:30 cait but i will double check
21:30 cait i mean it checks the interval and will filter the 0 out again
21:31 rangi also apropos the nosql db discussion the other day
21:32 cait first tests look good
21:32 jcamins Hehe.
21:38 eythian When I first went to the MS Access one on that site, it didn't load. I thought that was the joke.
21:40 rangi heh
21:40 eythian <-- also good
21:44 magnuse oops, no gbsd this week, i guess
21:44 rangi i pity all the ppl trying to fly into wellington for kiwicon today
21:44 magnuse would folks be interested in one (early) next week?
21:44 rangi specially those on jetstar
21:44 magnuse windy?
21:44 rangi mist/fog
21:44 magnuse ah
21:45 magnuse probably quite a rare problem in wellington?
21:45 rangi yeah usually the wind keeps it away
21:46 rangi[…]ards.aspx?page=17#
21:46 rangi Te Takere won an architecture award
21:46 maximep pfffffffff gentoo ftw :D
21:46 magnuse same for BOO :-)
21:46 rangi the home of koha .. looking great
21:46 magnuse woohoo tetakere++
21:46 eythian maximep: I'll agree/disagree when it finishes compiling.
21:46 * magnuse can't wait to see it :-)
21:47 maximep so, in a min
21:47 maximep :P
21:47 rangi mines still going from 2001
21:48 maximep my SSD crashed, so lost my gentoo install from 2004 :(
21:48 maximep hmmm probably more 2006
21:48 * magnuse wishes everyone a productive time of the day
21:48 maximep i'm the only guy crazy enough to use gentoo at work -_-
21:48 wizzyrea later magnuse :)
21:48 rangi actually i dunno, i havent turned that machine on in years, its probably not going to spin up
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22:43 jcamins Ooh, new Google feature. When I search for "vegan pizza" it suggests takeout... in Portland, OR.
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23:14 eythian <-- could be useful
23:15 rangi ohhh
23:18 wizzyrea ooooo
23:18 wizzyrea fancy
23:37 * cait think she might have gotten it right...but...
23:37 wizzyrea wha?
23:39 cait bad english, late... still working on the due bug
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23:45 wizzyrea no, just wondering why "may" - are you still having trouble?
23:47 cait no
23:47 cait just... it's a bit of a sensitive spot
23:47 cait i don't want to mess it up more by missing something :) but i have uploaded my patches
23:49 cait bug 11218...*hint*
23:54 wizzyrea :)
23:56 cait I'd really appreciate some feedback, because we have a library suffering from that... and i don't want to make it worse :)
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