| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
|
dcook |
Program for Parents and Youngsters (HIPPY). There had to be a better acronym than HIPPY... |
| 00:00 |
|
dcook |
Well then.. |
| 00:00 |
|
dcook |
Darned embedded newlines.. |
| 00:16 |
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| 00:50 |
|
dcook |
Who does Koha dev reactions? |
| 00:51 |
|
dcook |
http://havealaugh96.tumblr.com[…]he-so-happy-jesus |
| 00:51 |
|
dcook |
I think that's how I felt when I wrote my first patch :p |
| 00:52 |
|
wizzyrea |
hehe |
| 00:53 |
|
dcook |
This one would also be useful... |
| 00:53 |
|
dcook |
http://imgur.com/429auIk |
| 00:54 |
|
wizzyrea |
hehe I like that |
| 00:54 |
|
dcook |
Twitter Gold |
| 01:11 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, IFLA sounds like it might be interesting... |
| 01:20 |
|
* dcook |
looks forward to the day of CSS3... |
| 01:31 |
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| 01:35 |
|
dcook |
@later tell rangi These might be of interest if you haven't already seen them: http://www.slideshare.net/rjw/[…]rogress-ifla-2013 and http://www.wikidata.org/ |
| 01:35 |
|
huginn` |
dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 01:35 |
|
dcook |
@later tell magnuse These might be of interest if you haven't already seen them: http://www.slideshare.net/rjw/[…]rogress-ifla-2013 and http://www.wikidata.org/ |
| 01:35 |
|
huginn` |
dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 01:36 |
|
rangi |
thanks dcook |
| 01:36 |
|
rangi |
i guess you saw my tweet :) |
| 01:38 |
|
dcook |
Nopes |
| 01:38 |
|
* dcook |
takes a gander |
| 01:39 |
|
rangi |
https://twitter.com/ranginui/s[…]69632875689172992 |
| 01:39 |
|
rangi |
was just good timing :) |
| 01:40 |
|
rangi |
dcook: ive got koha saving to rdf, everytime you add a biblio or modify one |
| 01:40 |
|
rangi |
now |
| 01:40 |
|
rangi |
next step |
| 01:40 |
|
wahanui |
next step is to send it to the patches mailing list |
| 01:40 |
|
dcook |
Ack...arguing with people on Twitter...bad idea, dcook |
| 01:40 |
|
rangi |
allow the librarians to enrich those, by creating the links (or picking the links) |
| 01:41 |
|
rangi |
you are making good points |
| 01:43 |
|
dcook |
I went to school with Myron. He lives for arguments. He doesn't care about points. He just wants to hear himself talk. |
| 01:44 |
|
rangi |
ahh, no win there then |
| 01:44 |
|
dcook |
Nopes |
| 01:44 |
|
rangi |
smile and back away slowly |
| 01:44 |
|
dcook |
That's the plan ;) |
| 01:46 |
|
dcook |
Well, maybe minus the smile |
| 01:46 |
|
rangi |
heh |
| 01:48 |
|
dcook |
I like the tweet ;) |
| 01:48 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, I seem to remember you showing magnuse the other day |
| 01:49 |
|
dcook |
I haven't followed the link data "thing" closely enough, but cool to see Koha saving to rdf |
| 01:49 |
|
rangi |
ill have to tidy it up and submit it as a patch set at some point |
| 01:52 |
|
dcook |
Ok, that's really my last argument tweet for a while :p |
| 01:52 |
|
* dcook |
needs to learn now to always try to get the last word |
| 01:53 |
|
dcook |
not even |
| 01:53 |
|
rangi |
hehe |
| 01:56 |
|
dcook |
Patches \o/ |
| 01:56 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, I should submit my oai-pmh harvester soonn |
| 01:56 |
|
dcook |
soon* |
| 01:56 |
|
dcook |
It's not "perfect" yet, but it would be cool to potentially get some feedback |
| 01:57 |
|
dcook |
Think I might be trying to do too much right off the bat.. |
| 01:59 |
|
rangi |
thats always a danger |
| 01:59 |
|
rangi |
tell you what |
| 01:59 |
|
rangi |
http://search.cpan.org/dist/Te[…]nize/Mechanize.pm |
| 01:59 |
|
rangi |
http://search.cpan.org/dist/Te[…]anize.pm#SYNOPSIS |
| 02:00 |
|
rangi |
you could whack some tests up |
| 02:00 |
|
dcook |
For?\ |
| 02:00 |
|
rangi |
your harvester |
| 02:01 |
|
dcook |
No time like the present to learn to write tests |
| 02:01 |
|
rangi |
you could run you harverster, and then compare the results with the contents of a get etc |
| 02:01 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, not sure I follow |
| 02:02 |
|
dcook |
Ah, wait, I think I gotcha |
| 02:02 |
|
rangi |
cool :) |
| 02:02 |
|
rangi |
prove its not munging the data etc |
| 02:02 |
|
dcook |
The actual harvest works just fine, thanks to HTTP::OAI::Harvester |
| 02:02 |
|
rangi |
sweet |
| 02:02 |
|
rangi |
you could roundtrip it |
| 02:02 |
|
dcook |
I've even got it staging the records in the staging area, converting DC to MARC21... |
| 02:02 |
|
rangi |
harvest, convert, export |
| 02:03 |
|
rangi |
then if someone breaks one of those bits |
| 02:03 |
|
dcook |
At this point, I'm pondering how to deal with updated records |
| 02:03 |
|
rangi |
the test will catch it |
| 02:03 |
|
dcook |
Hmm |
| 02:03 |
|
rangi |
the basic idea with tests are to catch changes in behaviour |
| 02:03 |
|
dcook |
Makes sense. |
| 02:03 |
|
dcook |
You automate a certain range of acceptable behaviours and then the test breaks if it changes? |
| 02:03 |
|
rangi |
so you test for what should happen, if it doesnt, test fails |
| 02:03 |
|
rangi |
win |
| 02:03 |
|
rangi |
exactly |
| 02:03 |
|
dcook |
So long as you have every use case, you're golden? |
| 02:04 |
|
rangi |
pretty mcuh |
| 02:04 |
|
rangi |
thats the ideal |
| 02:04 |
|
dcook |
I do want to write tests... |
| 02:04 |
|
rangi |
but if you have at least all the common ones, thats a good start |
| 02:04 |
|
rangi |
and if you do this |
| 02:04 |
|
rangi |
http://galencharlton.com/blog/[…]-dependent-tests/ |
| 02:05 |
|
rangi |
you can have your tests modifying the db, and the rollback undoes it all |
| 02:05 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, I saw that blog post the other day. Looks sweet. |
| 02:05 |
|
jcamins |
But that doesn't work if your test is done via Test::WWW::Mechanize. |
| 02:05 |
|
dcook |
I had forgotten about rollbacks. Been too long since I read the Manga Guide to Databases :p |
| 02:05 |
|
jcamins |
You need more sophisticated techniques in that case. |
| 02:05 |
|
rangi |
yep |
| 02:08 |
|
jcamins |
Wow. $66k/minute. |
| 02:08 |
|
jcamins |
_That_ is downtime you don't want to be responsible for. |
| 02:08 |
|
dcook |
O_o |
| 02:08 |
|
rangi |
yikes |
| 02:09 |
|
jcamins |
Apparently Amazon was down between 15 and 40 minutes today. |
| 02:10 |
|
dcook |
Ouch... |
| 02:13 |
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| 02:14 |
|
* wizzyrea |
is often glad to not be in 1. the medical IT industry 2. the transport industry 3. the banking industry or 4. the HUGEMASSIVECORPORATE industry. |
| 02:15 |
|
dcook |
wizzyrea++ |
| 02:36 |
|
dcook |
I wonder how many car accidents happen outside of my office |
| 02:36 |
|
dcook |
I hear tires squeaking at least twice per day... |
| 02:37 |
|
jcamins |
Almost as many as happen down the street. |
| 02:37 |
|
jcamins |
(from us) |
| 03:37 |
|
dcook |
Koha is typically enjoyable, but Koha + Daft Punk is even more enjoyable. |
| 03:38 |
|
wizzyrea |
^^ so much this |
| 03:54 |
|
mtompset |
Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha. :) |
| 04:10 |
|
dcook |
Ah, so good! |
| 04:32 |
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| 04:41 |
|
wizzyrea |
hrm looks like we need to do some meaintenance on the Koha Team bit of the template |
| 04:42 |
|
wizzyrea |
maybe if I'm bored I'll do that tonight. |
| 04:42 |
|
dcook |
Koha Team? |
| 04:42 |
|
wizzyrea |
more -> about koha -> Koha Team |
| 04:47 |
|
dcook |
Mmm, yeah, it could use some updating |
| 05:08 |
|
dcook |
Oh yeah...I forgot to do this earlier... |
| 05:08 |
|
dcook |
ie-- |
| 05:08 |
|
dcook |
@karma ie |
| 05:08 |
|
huginn` |
dcook: Karma for "ie" has been increased 1 time and decreased 112 times for a total karma of -111. |
| 05:38 |
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| 05:44 |
|
cait |
good morning #koha |
| 05:48 |
|
dcook |
hey ya cait |
| 05:49 |
|
cait |
hi dcook |
| 05:54 |
|
dcook |
Good vacation so far? |
| 06:04 |
|
cait |
it was a nice vacation :) i am back since yesterday :) |
| 06:04 |
|
dcook |
Ah! I didn't realize! |
| 06:04 |
|
dcook |
Glad it was nice :) |
| 06:36 |
|
magnuse |
rangi++ for https://twitter.com/ranginui/s[…]69632875689172992 |
| 06:36 |
|
cait |
morning magnuse |
| 06:36 |
|
magnuse |
guten morgen cait |
| 06:37 |
|
* magnuse |
waves to all of #koha |
| 06:37 |
|
magnuse |
@wunder konstanz |
| 06:37 |
|
huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 13.9°C (8:35 AM CEST on August 20, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Falling). |
| 06:37 |
|
magnuse |
nice |
| 06:37 |
|
magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
| 06:37 |
|
huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 21.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on August 20, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:37 |
|
magnuse |
ooh, hot! |
| 06:37 |
|
magnuse |
@wunder boo |
| 06:37 |
|
huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on August 20, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:37 |
|
cait |
@wunde konstanz |
| 06:37 |
|
huginn` |
cait: downloading the Perl source |
| 06:37 |
|
cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
| 06:37 |
|
huginn` |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 13.9°C (8:35 AM CEST on August 20, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Falling). |
| 06:40 |
|
dcook |
@wunder sydney, australia |
| 06:40 |
|
huginn` |
dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 15.0°C (4:00 PM EST on August 20, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:40 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, chilly today |
| 06:40 |
|
* dcook |
waves to magnuse |
| 06:40 |
|
dcook |
Howdy |
| 06:42 |
|
magnuse |
g'day mate! |
| 06:46 |
|
magnuse |
dcook++ for the links |
| 06:47 |
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| 06:47 |
|
dcook |
Hope they're useful :) |
| 06:47 |
|
dcook |
salut reiveune :) |
| 06:47 |
|
reiveune |
hello |
| 06:48 |
|
magnuse |
bonjour reiveune |
| 06:48 |
|
reiveune |
salut magnuse, dcook :) |
| 06:51 |
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| 06:57 |
|
dcook |
ie-- |
| 06:57 |
|
magnuse |
ie-- |
| 06:57 |
|
magnuse |
windows-- |
| 06:58 |
|
* magnuse |
had his first encounter with windows 8 yesterday |
| 06:58 |
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| 06:58 |
|
gaetan_B |
hello |
| 06:58 |
|
wahanui |
hey, gaetan_B |
| 06:59 |
|
dcook |
I'm sorry, magnuse. I've only used it once or twice myself, but...blech. |
| 06:59 |
|
dcook |
bonjour gaetan_B :) |
| 07:00 |
|
dcook |
How is it 5 already... |
| 07:00 |
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| 07:00 |
|
drojf |
good morning #koha |
| 07:01 |
|
magnuse |
moin drojf |
| 07:01 |
|
magnuse |
dcook: maybe because it was 4 an hour ago? |
| 07:02 |
|
drojf |
hei magnuse |
| 07:11 |
|
dcook |
magnuse: Could be. Could be. |
| 07:11 |
|
dcook |
I think I'll do the responsible thing and head off only 11 minutes after 5 today ;) |
| 07:11 |
|
dcook |
Have a good day all |
| 07:36 |
|
magnuse |
:-) http://www.rollingstone.com/mu[…]brarians-20130819 |
| 07:55 |
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kf joined #koha |
| 07:56 |
|
magnuse |
KIA ORA KF! |
| 07:57 |
|
kf |
wah! |
| 07:57 |
|
* kf |
jumps |
| 07:57 |
|
magnuse |
moahahaha |
| 08:05 |
|
magnuse |
rangi++ for updating http://schema.koha-community.org/ |
| 08:06 |
|
* kf |
throws skittles at magnuse |
| 08:06 |
|
Oak |
magnuse |
| 08:06 |
|
Oak |
hello kf |
| 08:07 |
|
magnuse |
Oak |
| 08:07 |
|
magnuse |
skittles? |
| 08:27 |
|
kf |
apparently that's sweets you throw at people |
| 08:27 |
|
kf |
ask druthb_away |
| 08:28 |
|
cjh |
mmmhhhmmmm skittles are yummy. |
| 08:29 |
|
* kf |
throws some at cjh |
| 08:29 |
|
kf |
hm |
| 08:29 |
|
* kf |
throws some smarties instead |
| 08:29 |
|
cjh |
heh |
| 08:29 |
|
kf |
do you have smarties in nz? |
| 08:29 |
|
cjh |
yeah, but m&ms are more popular. |
| 08:30 |
|
kf |
ah :) |
| 08:31 |
|
* magnuse |
was thinking of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skittles_%28sport%29 which sounds slightly more dangerous |
| 08:31 |
|
cjh |
TIL that skittles is/are a sport... |
| 08:32 |
|
* magnuse |
has read too much Dickens |
| 08:33 |
|
magnuse |
@later tell oleonard: if you do followups for bug 10764 and 10765 i'll get them signed off |
| 08:33 |
|
huginn` |
magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:37 |
|
* magnuse |
suspects bug 3145 is no longer relevant |
| 08:37 |
|
huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3145 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , patron templates using poorly named "P" and "C" variables |
| 08:41 |
|
kf |
magnuse: hm i doubt it |
| 08:41 |
|
kf |
i think the templates still might have those |
| 08:45 |
|
magnuse |
ok, i might be wrong |
| 08:45 |
|
magnuse |
it has been known to happen |
| 08:45 |
|
magnuse |
:-) |
| 08:46 |
|
kf |
i think i ran into those sometime ago,i might be wrong too :) |
| 08:46 |
|
kf |
or i might be thinking about something else. hm. |
| 08:52 |
|
kf |
Joubu++ |
| 09:14 |
|
magnuse |
they are really hard to grep for, at least ;-) |
| 09:14 |
|
magnuse |
kf++ for calling a qa meeting |
| 09:16 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Starting build #341 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 09:16 |
|
kf |
we will see how it works out :) |
| 09:24 |
|
* rangi |
giggles |
| 09:24 |
|
rangi |
https://twitter.com/Marie_Idil[…]69738290951225344 |
| 09:26 |
|
rangi |
im not entirely sure how adding fields to MARC helps move from MARC |
| 09:26 |
|
rangi |
people are funny |
| 09:27 |
|
cjh |
maybe marc will become so over encumbered it falls over? |
| 09:27 |
|
rangi |
heh |
| 09:36 |
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| 09:53 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #341: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/341/ |
| 09:53 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Robin Sheat: Bug 10411: add cache control headers for static resources (Debian package) |
| 09:53 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 10514: improve visibility of Add item link on new order form |
| 09:53 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 7143: Updating history and about page |
| 09:53 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* David Cook: Bug 10448: can now change framework after duplicating bib record |
| 09:53 |
|
huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10411 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , Add cache control headers to static resources in the apache config |
| 09:53 |
|
huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10514 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Add item link on acquisitions add item is too small |
| 09:53 |
|
huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Bug for tracking changes to the about page |
| 09:53 |
|
huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10448 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Changing framework when cataloguing clears all fields |
| 09:54 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Starting build #342 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 09:56 |
|
cjh |
finally found time to catch up on my rmaint :) |
| 09:57 |
|
rangi |
cjh++ |
| 09:58 |
|
cjh |
probably worth mentioning that lately I have had issues with my RSI flaring up again, but for the time being I plan to keep rmaint-ing, just may be a bit slow. |
| 10:00 |
|
rangi |
sweet, your health is more important, one of us can sub in if we need to, but cool if you can keep doing it |
| 10:03 |
|
cjh |
ty, I havent been able to do it much for the last few weeks so got pretty close to asking for a volunteer, if it gets worse I will try let the community know ASAP. |
| 10:31 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #342: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/342/ |
| 10:31 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Jason Etheridge: Bug 9770: test case for sorting of Dewey call numbers that contain prefixes |
| 10:31 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Jason Etheridge: Bug 9770: fix sorting of Dewey call numbers that contain prefixes |
| 10:31 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 10422 - Remove references to unused and non-existent wizard.css |
| 10:31 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 10527: remove disused routine C4::Branch::get_branch_code_from_name |
| 10:31 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 10556: The delivery time is not inserted on adding a supplier. |
| 10:31 |
|
huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9770 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , C4::ClassSortRoutine::Dewey can pad the wrong part of a call number internally |
| 10:31 |
|
huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10422 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Remove references to unused and non-existent wizard.css |
| 10:31 |
|
huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10527 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , C4::Branch::get_branch_code_from_name is useless |
| 10:31 |
|
huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10556 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , deliverytime is not inserted on adding a supplier |
| 10:31 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Starting build #343 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 10:43 |
|
magnuse |
cjh++ |
| 10:45 |
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| 10:46 |
|
kf |
cjh++ |
| 10:47 |
|
magnuse |
health > Koha_3.8.x |
| 10:47 |
|
magnuse |
Koha_master, on the other hand... ;-) |
| 11:08 |
|
kf |
tsk :) |
| 11:08 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #343: SUCCESS in 36 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/343/ |
| 11:08 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Sophie Meynieux: Bug 10127 : Printoverdues.sh should tar only pdf files |
| 11:08 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin Fischer: Bug 10563: Fix broken 'Edit' link on check expiration page |
| 11:08 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10127 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Printoverdues.sh should tar only pdf files |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10563 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Link to edit subscription from 'check expiraton' page is broken |
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drojf |
hello again |
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drojf |
what's the offline mode of koha? |
| 11:12 |
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rangi |
maybe they mean offline circ? |
| 11:13 |
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drojf |
ah |
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drojf |
of course |
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kf |
my guess too |
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drojf |
or, at least very likely |
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* kf |
sends rangi to bed |
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* drojf |
drank coffee and is confused now |
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drojf |
so, everything is normal ;D |
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drojf |
i wonder what i have been working on, koha-wise |
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magnuse |
drojf: maybe check bugzilla? |
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drojf |
magnuse: yup, i found it there. i just got confused because it passed qa already |
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drojf |
i remember some qa manager asking about changes ;) |
| 11:26 |
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magnuse |
drojf: oh noes, the qa team culdn't leave it alone? |
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magnuse |
yeah, that qam... |
| 11:29 |
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magnuse |
bug 10344 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10344 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , add RDA support to Koha |
| 11:29 |
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magnuse |
poor gmcharlt ;-) |
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kf |
hmpf poor qam? |
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kf |
poor qa people? |
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drojf |
yay RDA |
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* drojf |
hides |
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magnuse |
looking at the queue of signed off patches, i'm ready to agree to a "poor qam and qa people", yes |
| 11:44 |
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drojf |
goodness |
| 11:44 |
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drojf |
needs signoff is ridiculously high too |
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drojf |
people should go on vacation more often and stop submitting code :P |
| 11:45 |
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kf |
well stop submitting code until we have caught up would work for me |
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kf |
except for bug fixes |
| 11:46 |
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drojf |
so i better not change anything to my bug that passed qa, right? ;) |
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kf |
hmm not sure - was it me asking for changes? |
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kf |
and what's missing? |
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wahanui |
missing is usualy library only, an item that's not out |
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kf |
um thx wahanui |
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wahanui |
yw |
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oleonard |
wahanui: That made no sense. |
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wahanui |
oleonard: sorry... |
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oleonard |
Hi all |
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drojf |
i won't tell you what's missing, that would be counter-productive to my plan of being lazy |
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Viktor |
Hi! |
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Viktor |
Is it possible to display _where_ a book was returned on issuehistory.pl? |
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oleonard |
Viktor: I don't know what issuehistory.pl queries, but I see that the statistics table saves a branch code for entries with type='return' |
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Viktor |
That would be useful I think oleonard - thanks. |
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Viktor |
We'd like a simple way to se where books that has gone missing in transport was returned. |
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Viktor |
Just trying to make shure that we don't start writing an request for enhancment on stuff that's already available :) |
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jcamins |
Viktor: I don't think there's any option to do that now, but I think that could be added. |
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Viktor |
I'll add it for our 2014 wishlist then jcamins :) I'm noting all the stuff we find during the autumn and plan to tick at least a few off the list next year. |
| 12:05 |
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magnuse |
Viktor++ |
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oleonard |
Looks like issuehistory.pl queries issues and old_issues, so it would have to be reworked to include the check-in library. |
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Viktor |
magnuse :) |
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kf |
Viktor: if it's transport, maybe it shows on the transports to receive (something like that) page? |
| 12:09 |
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Viktor |
oleonard Hm. As long as it's not too much work I guess we'd still want to get it done. Thanks for looking into it. |
| 12:09 |
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drojf |
patches welcome ;) |
| 12:09 |
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Viktor |
kf - That might very well catch quite a lot of the necessary examples. |
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Viktor |
drojf True :) No promises though. But we do have funding for 2014 for a few of our top priorities. |
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drojf |
nice! :) |
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Viktor |
It is :) |
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kf |
:) |
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druthb |
kf! drojf! How's Germany today? |
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tcohen |
morning #koha |
| 12:52 |
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kf |
druthb! |
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kf |
tcohen! |
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kf |
druthb: cloudy here but nice |
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magnuse |
druthb! |
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wahanui |
Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would. |
| 12:52 |
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magnuse |
tcohen! |
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wahanui |
tcohen is 122 |
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druthb |
magnuse! tcohen! |
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magnuse |
druthb! |
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wahanui |
Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would. |
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drojf |
druthb! |
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drojf |
druthb: fascist as yesterday |
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drojf |
but the sun is shining ;) |
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druthb |
:) |
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oleonard |
tcohen! druthb! drojf! kf! wahanui! |
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drojf |
oleonard! |
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wahanui |
it has been said that oleonard is not really here. He said so. He did! |
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drojf |
tcohen! |
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drojf |
;) |
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druthb |
oleonard! |
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wahanui |
oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
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tcohen |
drojf! oleonard! |
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kf |
oleonard! |
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wahanui |
somebody said oleonard was not really here. He said so. He did! |
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oleonard |
wahanui is overly concerned with my whereabouts. |
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druthb |
heh |
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druthb |
we all miss you when you're not here, oleonard. |
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* oleonard |
is neither constantly connected to IRC even when away from his computer nor young enough to spend 20 hours a day here |
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* kf |
wonders who would spend 20 hours in #koha |
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oleonard |
When we all get our Google Glasses we can have #koha running constantly in a corner of our vision |
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* druthb |
uses bip for that. |
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liw |
druthb, so one of your external brains is on #koha continuously :) |
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liw |
bip is nice |
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druthb |
yep. I don't miss things that way. jcamins can't say evil things about me, even with [off]. |
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oleonard |
Oh no, I never thought of that! |
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* oleonard |
gives jcamins the evil eye |
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* jcamins |
has ops! He could accidentally kick someone then say evil things about them! |
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* druthb |
offers to set up a bip server for oleonard. |
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oleonard |
jcamins' reach knows no bounds |
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oleonard |
Thanks druthb, I think I'm getting a healthy dose of #koha for now :) |
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liw |
oleonard, then more of #koha would be even healthier! |
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tcohen |
feature freeze? |
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wahanui |
feature freeze is march 22nd 2013 |
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tcohen |
you are outdated wahanui |
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druthb |
wahanui: forget feature freeze |
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wahanui |
druthb: I forgot feature freeze |
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druthb |
wahanui: botsnack frozen lemonade |
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wahanui |
thanks druthb :) |
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kf |
tcohen: release dates? |
| 13:47 |
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wahanui |
release dates are http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gmcharlt#Timeline |
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oleonard |
wahanui: Feature freeze is 3 October 2013 |
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wahanui |
OK, oleonard. |
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oleonard |
string freeze? |
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wahanui |
hmmm... string freeze is 24:00 8th October |
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oleonard |
wahanui: forget string freeze |
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wahanui |
oleonard: I forgot string freeze |
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oleonard |
wahanui: String freeze is 31 October 2013 |
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wahanui |
OK, oleonard. |
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oleonard |
brain freeze? |
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magnuse |
lol |
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druthb |
lol |
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oleonard |
wahanui: Brain freeze is <reply> Slow down, tiger. |
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wahanui |
OK, oleonard. |
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* gmcharlt |
is working on getting the website back up |
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kf |
frozen lemonade? |
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oleonard |
gmcharlt: That's going to be hard to do with all of us checking the web site to see what you're talking about |
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gmcharlt |
heh |
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gmcharlt |
drop in the bucket compared to whatever is overloading it at the moment |
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druthb |
kf: frozen lemonade. It's a good brain-freeze maker. |
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druthb |
also very yummy treat on a hot day. |
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oleonard |
sql_library++ |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10081: add library name to IndependentBranches error message <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]656d314195cf69d07> |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8670 - Update POD of C4::Branch::GetBranches() to use TT syntax <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]68c3727ecffac7f02> / Bug 10763 - [SIGNED-OFF] Update POD of C4::Creators::Lib::html_table() to use TT... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9cb3212694af86610> / Bug 10764 - Update POD of C4::Items::GetItemStatus() to |
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gmcharlt |
website back up; there appears to have been a DDOS / attempt to compromise the WP login about four hours ago |
| 14:47 |
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druthb |
gmcharlt++ |
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oleonard |
gmcharlt++ |
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oleonard |
gmcharlt: Do you have time for a question? |
| 14:56 |
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gmcharlt |
yes |
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oleonard |
I think my Bootstrap OPAC theme is getting very close to being ready. I have a couple of minor issues still to resolve. |
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drojf |
you did not ask if gmcharlt has time for a second question… |
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oleonard |
What do you think I can do to help it along the process? |
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oleonard |
Daniel is going to include a note about it in the newsletter. so perhaps that will lead to more feedback. |
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oleonard |
But really it's almost ready for signoff. |
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oleonard |
(as far as I know from my own testing) |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: one idea is to see if the QA folks are willing to put it on their agenda for the metting that kf has called |
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gmcharlt |
another thing that might help is identifying any pending OPAC template bugs that may be of higher priority than the Bootstrap theme -- and get some attention on those so that we minimize rebase iterations |
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gmcharlt |
also, a plain old announcement to koha-devel wouldn't hurt |
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oleonard |
That makes sense. I've done my best to track each new commit to the OPAC templates. |
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gmcharlt |
I'll also point a WCAG validator against a fresh install of it this week |
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jenkins_koha |
Project master_maria build #57: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/master_maria/57/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Owen Leonard: Bug 10081: add library name to IndependentBranches error message |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10081 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , IndependentBranches error message missing the library name |
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jenkins_koha |
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oleonard |
Thanks gmcharlt |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: http://gitorious.org/koha-dev/[…]ts/bootstrap-opac is the current branch, correct? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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reiveune |
bye |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn` |
drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 21.3°C (5:12 PM CEST on August 20, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Falling). |
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druthb |
@wunder 77098 |
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druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 30.0°C (10:18 AM CDT on August 20, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
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kf |
oleonard: not sure how much the qa team can do - we shoudl try to get some sign-offs first ideally - maybe also people could note somewhere what they tested... hm. |
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kf |
oleonard: it would be great to get someone test accessibility, but i am not sure how to do that |
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oleonard |
I'm not sure how signoffs should be handled since a patch would be too large to upload to Bugzilla |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10628: make sure AutomaticItemReturn doesn't prevent holds queue from filling... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0abe0b901d1af3e6a> |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 10765 - [SIGNED-OFF] Update POD of C4::Koha::GetSupportList() to use TT syntax |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 10764 - Update POD of C4::Items::GetItemStatus() to use TT syntax |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 10763 - [SIGNED-OFF] Update POD of C4::Creators::Lib::html_table() to use TT syntax |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 8670 - Update POD of C4::Branch::GetBranches() to use TT syntax |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10765 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Update POD of C4::Koha::GetSupportList() to use TT syntax |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10764 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Update POD of C4::Items::GetItemStatus() to use TT syntax |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10763 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Update POD of C4::Creators::Lib::html_table() to use TT syntax |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8670 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Update POD of C4::Branch::GetBranches() to use TT syntax |
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Starting build #59 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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jenkins_koha |
Owen Leonard: Bug 10081: add library name to IndependentBranches error message |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10081 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , IndependentBranches error message missing the library name |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1378 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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jenkins_koha |
Project master_maria build #59: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/master_maria/59/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Kyle M Hall: Bug 10628: make sure AutomaticItemReturn doesn't prevent holds queue from filling local holds with local items |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10628 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , AutomaticItemReturn prevents holds queue from filling local holds with local items |
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gaetan_B |
bye ! |
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magnuse |
oleonard, kf: couldn't positive comments on the bug just count as signoffs then? |
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gmcharlt |
magnuse: a statement to the effect of (a) I've tested the patch (b) I am willing to signoff on it (c) I authorize somebody up the line to add a Signed-off-by line to the commit message accordingly would be sufficient IMO |
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gmcharlt |
or simply -- "here's my branch in a Git repo that has the patch with my signoff" |
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magnuse |
sounds good to me |
| 16:59 |
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magnuse |
what's the plan again - will it replace prog in 3.14? |
| 16:59 |
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magnuse |
or will prog, ccsr and this new theme all be options in 3.14? |
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oleonard |
Just a third theme in 3.14 |
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oleonard |
But later to become the single default theme--I hope! |
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jenkins_koha |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 10765 - [SIGNED-OFF] Update POD of C4::Koha::GetSupportList() to use TT syntax |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 10764 - Update POD of C4::Items::GetItemStatus() to use TT syntax |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 10763 - [SIGNED-OFF] Update POD of C4::Creators::Lib::html_table() to use TT syntax |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 8670 - Update POD of C4::Branch::GetBranches() to use TT syntax |
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jenkins_koha |
* Kyle M Hall: Bug 10628: make sure AutomaticItemReturn doesn't prevent holds queue from filling local holds with local items |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10765 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Update POD of C4::Koha::GetSupportList() to use TT syntax |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10764 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Update POD of C4::Items::GetItemStatus() to use TT syntax |
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gmcharlt |
depending on how it tests, I wouldn't be opposed to it supplantly CCSR in 3.14 as well |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10763 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Update POD of C4::Creators::Lib::html_table() to use TT syntax |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8670 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Update POD of C4::Branch::GetBranches() to use TT syntax |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10628 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , AutomaticItemReturn prevents holds queue from filling local holds with local items |
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jenkins_koha |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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mtompset |
I was wondering if anyone would be adverse to a patch for the apache-shared.conf that adds a -Indexes on the Options line at the end. |
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druthb |
Hi, mtompset |
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mtompset |
Greetings, druthb! |
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magnuse |
mtompset: one way to find out is to submit a patch :-) |
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mtompset |
Any ideas on what to call the patch? |
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jcamins |
"Apache configuration should not display Indexes" ? |
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mtompset |
If I have a bunch of PDF files (for example), which I would like to have usable links in 856$u, what is the best way to serve these files from a Koha Server? |
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jcamins |
Either upload them manually or sign off on bug 6874? |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , File upload in MARC |
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mtompset |
Ooo... interesting enhancement. Thanks, jcamins! |
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mtompset |
jcamins++ |
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mtompset |
We are in the midst of evaluating moving our hosting to another site, preferably in Europe, any suggestions as to sites good for hosting Koha on at low cost? |
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oleonard |
http://koha-community.org/supp[…]continent/#europe |
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magnuse |
mtompset: i use linode - they have a datacenter in london, and i have been quite happy with them (if that was the sort of thing you were thinking of) |
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* oleonard |
keeps thinking he should grow up and get VPS hosting so he could run his own Koha |
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* oleonard |
then remembers he isn't a system administrator |
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jcamins |
oleonard: Lots of people think that sort of thing. As it happens, I just heard about a service that will provide you with your own Koha, gratis! Unfortunately, source code access is not included. |
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jcamins |
Well- you can access the source code, it's just read-only. |
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jcamins |
:) |
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oleonard |
:P |
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* cait |
waves tiredly |
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* mtompset |
waves back to cait. :) |
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alphaman |
oleonard: I'm a sysadmin… ;) |
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ccsrgabrielle |
Hello! Does anyone know if there is a way to differentiate renewals made in the intranet vs renewals made in the OPAC? I need it for an SQL report |
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cait |
ccsrgabrielle: i think you only can do that in newr versions when there is a speciic system preference set |
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cait |
let me look it up |
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cait |
ccsrgabrielle: OpacRenewalBranch |
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magnuse |
oleonard: you don't believe in teaching * dogs new tricks? |
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ccsrgabrielle |
in wich version? |
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cait |
it will only record it i think when that is set to OPACRenew |
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cait |
hm not sure |
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cait |
not that new really... maybe 3.8? |
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cait |
3.10? |
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wahanui |
3.10 is released November 22. |
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gmcharlt |
ccsrgabrielle: 3.6 or later, looks like |
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cait |
so not really new at all :) |
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oleonard |
wahanui: forget 3.10 |
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wahanui |
oleonard: I forgot 3.10 |
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oleonard |
wahanui: 3.10 is Koha 3.10 was released 23 November 2012 |
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wahanui |
OK, oleonard. |
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ccsrgabrielle |
Okay. But it looks to be only for the branch and not to know if the renewals were made in the OPAC or in the intranet? |
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cait |
ccsrgabrielle: it will record opacrenewals if it's set to OpacRenew |
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oleonard |
wahanui: 3.8 is Koha 3.8.0 was released 23 April 2012 |
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wahanui |
...but 3.8 is very stable... |
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cait |
otherwise I am afraid there is maybe no way to tell |
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oleonard |
wahanui: forget 3.8 |
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wahanui |
oleonard: I forgot 3.8 |
| 18:01 |
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oleonard |
wahanui: 3.8 is Koha 3.8.0 was released 23 April 2012 |
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wahanui |
OK, oleonard. |
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oleonard |
wahanui: 3.6 is Koha 3.6.0 was released 22 October 2011 |
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wahanui |
...but 3.6 is more relevant... |
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oleonard |
wahanui: forget 3.6 |
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wahanui |
oleonard: I forgot 3.6 |
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oleonard |
wahanui: 3.6 is Koha 3.6.0 was released 22 October 2011 |
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wahanui |
OK, oleonard. |
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oleonard |
3.4? |
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wahanui |
3.4 is, like, still on schedule |
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oleonard |
wahanui: forget 3.4 |
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wahanui |
oleonard: I forgot 3.4 |
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ccsrgabrielle |
Okay, so if i set OpacRenwealBranch to "OpacRenew" i will be able to know how many renewals were made in the OPAC? |
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oleonard |
wahanui: 3.4 is Koha 3.4.0 was released 22 April 2011 |
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wahanui |
OK, oleonard. |
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oleonard |
3.2? |
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wahanui |
3.2 is really old so i have no idea. but drojf's guess is that it does not make a difference how old koha is but what version of zebra you use |
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oleonard |
wahanui: forget 3.2 |
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wahanui |
oleonard: I forgot 3.2 |
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oleonard |
wahanui: 3.2 is Koha 3.2.0 was released 22 October 2010 |
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wahanui |
OK, oleonard. |
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ccsrgabrielle |
cait: Okay, so if i set OpacRenwealBranch to "OpacRenew" i will be able to know how many renewals were made in the OPAC? |
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oleonard |
wahanui: 1492 is In fourteen hundred ninety-two. Columbus sailed the ocean blue. |
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wahanui |
OK, oleonard. |
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gmcharlt |
ccsrgabrielle: yes |
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ccsrgabrielle |
Ok thanks, i will try it! :) |
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oleonard |
@seen bag |
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huginn` |
oleonard: bag was last seen in #koha 1 week, 0 days, 19 hours, 22 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <bag> pianohacker: rancor |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1379: SUCCESS in 1 hr 13 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1379/ |
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mtompset |
1492? |
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wahanui |
1492 is In fourteen hundred ninety-two. Columbus sailed the ocean blue. |
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jcamins |
wahanui: forget 1492 |
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wahanui |
jcamins: I forgot 1492 |
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jcamins |
wahanui: 1492 is <reply> In fourteen hundred ninety-two, Columbus sailed the ocean blue. |
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wahanui |
OK, jcamins. |
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jcamins |
1492? |
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wahanui |
In fourteen hundred ninety-two, Columbus sailed the ocean blue. |
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magnuse |
bug 1492? |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1492 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, paul.poulain, CLOSED FIXED, MARC subfields structure: can't switch to tab with label "@" |
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cait |
ccsrgabrielle: but only for rneewals made from the point on you change it |
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cait |
i mean after changing the setting |
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ccsrgabrielle |
cait: Ok. And how can i point it in my SQL report? |
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cait |
you will query the statistics table |
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cait |
i am not sure which column and should take time to eat some dinner :) |
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cait |
maybe easiest is doing a rnewal and look at the newest entries in the statistics table to see how it looks like |
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ccsrgabrielle |
Ok thanks! Have a good dinner :) |
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cait |
thx :) |
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magnuse |
enjoy your dinner cait |
| 18:29 |
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magnuse |
moahahah, a database with a table with columns called FIRST_NAME_1, FIRST_NAME_2, FIRST_NAME_3, FIRST_NAME_4 and FIRST_NAME_5 |
| 18:30 |
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cait |
sounds fun? |
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jcamins |
magnuse: awesome! |
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wahanui |
That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, jcamins |
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mtompset |
magnuse: Are you kidding?! That's so bad it's good. |
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magnuse |
no kidding, i'm afraid |
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magnuse |
it's something called "library IT". it's different from other kinds of IT. |
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druthb |
hm. |
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druthb |
awesome! |
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wahanui |
That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, druthb |
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druthb |
oooh. |
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* druthb |
digs through her change, and puts in INR64, not having a dollar handy. |
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gmcharlt |
http://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/[…]ieve-about-names/ |
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mtompset |
That's a bizarre link. 5 years?! You have to be kidding me. What culture waits 5 years to name the kid? |
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oleonard |
Which one? The one you don't know about until after you've developed your database I guess. |
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mtompset |
There exist people with no name? |
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cait |
see commentson that post |
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magnuse |
oh and don't forget to format your dates like so: 11-JUN-99 |
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gmcharlt |
magnuse: 1899 was an excellent year, don't you agree? |
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* druthb |
shudders |
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oleonard |
magnuse: Right, because the months come in alphabetical order right? |
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magnuse |
oleonard: of course they do! |
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magnuse |
oh and please remember to store your pin codes (passwords) as plain text |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: do your library still use misc/cronjobs/stats/monthly_circulation_statistics.pl ? |
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oleonard |
gmcharlt: That doesn't sound familiar |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: admittedly, it was only an allegation that ACPL ever used it at all :) |
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oleonard |
Filthy lies! |
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oleonard |
Hm, if it was authored by my former boss then I guess it might not be lies... |
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oleonard |
...but it also means that it is *very* old |
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oleonard |
Anyway, we definitely don't use it. |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: bug 10771 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10771 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , three disused scripts in misc/cronjobs/stats should be removed |
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oleonard |
+1 |
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magnuse |
removing_dead_code++ |
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oleonard |
reviving_dead_corpses-- |
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druthb |
zombies-- |
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mtompset |
Come on! Zombies are cool. And what about Ezekiel and the dry bones, or Jesus? :P |
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druthb |
I don't *have* to outrun a zombie apocalypse, mtompset. I just have to outrun *you* when we get caught in one. |
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mtompset |
removing_dead_code++ |
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mtompset |
druthb: I was surprised at how well I did 400m's the other day. Of course, it was a bad time in general, but much better than I thought. |
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rangi |
hmm am i missing something |
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rangi |
did RDA suddenly not become modified MARC? |
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rangi |
https://twitter.com/3windmills[…]69832361049202688 |
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cait |
rangi: it is not really... |
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cait |
rangi: it is more modified aacr... for the idea of it |
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cait |
my coworker spend like 3 hours trying to explain it to me... no guarantees i gotit right :) |
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rangi |
yes |
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rangi |
but can you represent it in anything other than MARC |
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rangi |
? |
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cait |
yes i think you can |
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rangi |
just no one has or does? |
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cait |
and they will do that here... because our databases are internally not marc |
| 19:45 |
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rangi |
actually i think that makes it even worse |
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cait |
we export marc |
| 19:45 |
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cait |
you can certainly think that |
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rangi |
ive yet to see it defined in any way other than what marc fields it uses |
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oleonard |
If RDA wasn't MARC how could we be seeing RDA records coming out of library catalogs already? |
| 19:47 |
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rangi |
*nod* |
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rangi |
i mean i understand that AACR2 and RDA are supposedly cataloguing rules |
| 19:48 |
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rangi |
but they are tied so heavily to what goes in what subfield and what indicator , adn 264 being better than 260 |
| 19:48 |
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rangi |
that i think RDA is no more separate from MARC than AACR2 is |
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gmcharlt |
rangi: of course they're not dependent on MARC! You can always hand-write catalog cards based on RDA and AACR2 rules! |
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rangi |
heheh |
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gmcharlt |
to be fair, there were efforts during the RDA process by some folks to achieve more of a detachment from MARC |
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rangi |
*nod* |
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rangi |
i was cheering for them |
| 19:50 |
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rangi |
they lost tho |
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gmcharlt |
but my impression is that those are nowadays subsumed in the BIBFRAME effort |
| 19:50 |
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rangi |
*nod* |
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rangi |
my main issue with RDA is the time and money being invested in it, will make people even slower to move from MARC |
| 19:51 |
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rangi |
'but we just spent x thousand on converting to RDA!!' |
| 19:52 |
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gmcharlt |
well, any successor to MARC is going to have to *prove* a real benefit ... certainly RDA per se has made a lot of folks suspicious |
| 19:52 |
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* oleonard |
shudders... "x thousand!" |
| 19:53 |
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gmcharlt |
and I think it will need to go beyond "in theory Linked Data means more sharing! lower cataloguing costs!" to "in actuality..." |
| 19:55 |
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rangi |
yeah |
| 19:56 |
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rangi |
which means i need to finish my stuff, and make sparql.koha-community.org and the button in koha to push/pull from it |
| 19:56 |
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rangi |
someone win lotto for me |
| 19:56 |
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* gmcharlt |
hands rangi a shiny simolean |
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oleonard |
sparql? |
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jcamins |
rangi: I don't think you understand. |
| 19:58 |
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jcamins |
Bibframe is the future. |
| 19:58 |
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jcamins |
Bibframe is where it's at. |
| 19:58 |
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jcamins |
We don't have data in MARC, we have data in Bibframe^0, which looks like MARC. |
| 19:58 |
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rangi |
oleonard: so far, in my rdf branch, when you add or modify a biblio, it converts it to rdf and stores it as NTriples in a designated sparql endpoint |
| 19:59 |
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rangi |
next, i want to add the ability when in the staff site, to enrich that record, ie spawn a search of VIAF and link that, and then save that enhanced rdf |
| 19:59 |
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rangi |
then i want a way, to 'publish' it |
| 19:59 |
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rangi |
have you seen http://ratings.koha-community.org/ |
| 19:59 |
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oleonard |
I understood some of those words. |
| 19:59 |
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rangi |
im thinking somethign like that but for rdf |
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rangi |
a sparql endpoint you can think of as a database |
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rangi |
that you query with sparql |
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rangi |
you can do thinks like INSERT { rdf goes here } |
| 20:01 |
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rangi |
it looks similar to sql |
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rangi |
my theory is, if there is a way for a koha library to push its enhanced rdf |
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rangi |
and a way for others to grab that |
| 20:02 |
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rangi |
we can show how you can copy catalogue |
| 20:02 |
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rangi |
it wont work |
| 20:02 |
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rangi |
but i like tilting at windmills |
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* gmcharlt |
hands rangi a Don Quixote badge |
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* oleonard |
hands rangi a poncho |
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oleonard |
Bye #koha |
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* cait |
tries handing a cookie |
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cait |
cookies always work, right? |
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druthb |
cookies? |
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wahanui |
Cookies are delicious delicacies |
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druthb |
:D |
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jcamins |
I shall impersonate- a man. Come, enter into my imagination and see him! Bony, hollow-faced, with eyes that burn with the fire of inner vision. He conceives of the strangest project ever imagined... to reform library data, abolishing all MARC! |
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cait |
jcamins: i am sorry, i don't get the reference, quite sure tho there is one? |
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* cait |
nibbles on a cookie and tries to be quiet |
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gmcharlt |
cait: Man of La Mancha |
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* gmcharlt |
grabs a cookie and starts nibbling too |
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cait |
oh that fits of course |
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cjh |
morning |
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* magnuse |
cheers rangi on |
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magnuse |
hey, maybe i can be sancho panza? |
| 21:05 |
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magnuse |
nah, didn't he really tag along to make sure don quixote didn't inflict too much harm on himself and others? |
| 21:06 |
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* magnuse |
wants to see maximum harm inflicted on MARC and its minions |
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rangi |
back |
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magnuse |
wb rangi |
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* magnuse |
hopes rangi will submit what he has - saving records as rdf in a triplestore is an excellent start, we can do the ui for enhancing the data + sparql.koha-community.org later :-) |
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* magnuse |
is working on an rdf browser for the opac |
| 21:10 |
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* magnuse |
like stalking to himeslf late at night |
| 21:10 |
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magnuse |
or "likes talking", your choice |
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rangi |
magnuse: its all pushed up |
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rangi |
ill submit as patches at some point |
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* magnuse |
hopes for sooner rather than later ;-) |
| 21:12 |
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rangi |
i even fixed the typo u spotted :) |
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magnuse |
rangi++ |
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magnuse |
oh well, have fun #koha! |
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dani1 |
hello, newbie here with a question about fines and long overdues. |
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cait |
hi dani |
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dani1 |
hello |
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cait |
we will try to help, but i have never used the long overdue script, so ont sure how much help i can be there |
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cait |
we do use fines tho :) |
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dani1 |
OK. if a book have been changed to long overdue, and then later returned. I know the fine is removed, but no max late fine is charged? |
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dani1 |
is this because there is no per-item max? |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
wasn't it removed from the patron account with long overdue? |
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dani1 |
yes. So I patron could turn in a book 100 days overdue and not get charged anything? |
| 22:01 |
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cait |
they should be charged the replacement price for the bug |
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cait |
book |
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cait |
when it's set to long overdue (I think) |
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wizzyrea |
there's an option for that, yes |
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cait |
if it works like the other lost status |
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dani1 |
but when the book is returned the replacement price is removed |
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cait |
there is a system preference for that now - it's something with refund |
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cait |
if you search for lost in administration it might turn up |
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wizzyrea |
I think the fines charged prior to long overdue still stand though |
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rangi |
they do |
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rangi |
they are done with a different fines script |
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cait |
hm yes, they wouldn#t get removed |
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wizzyrea |
but there is no per item max |
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cait |
dani1: do you run the fines script? |
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wizzyrea |
there's an across the board maximum |
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cait |
wizzyrea: hm there is |
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cait |
wizzyrea: in 3.12 |
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wizzyrea |
dani1: are you running 3.12? |
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cait |
maxfine got moved to the circulation matrix |
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wizzyrea |
that's cool I didn't realise that |
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dani1 |
no 3.10 |
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wizzyrea |
either way, pretty new feature ;0 |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
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wizzyrea |
so no, currently you have only the across the board max fine |
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dani1 |
Well, we are trying to decide how to set up a new library. Director wants max fine or some fine to be charged for long overdues that get turned in 100 days late. |
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cait |
dani1: did you check for lost configuration options in the system preferences? |
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wizzyrea |
^^ |
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dani1 |
no wizzyrea, looking now |
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wizzyrea |
but yea, I recall that there was a change to flip the switch as to whether the charge is removed |
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wizzyrea |
I think it's a syspref |
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cait |
it is |
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cait |
just not sure which version |
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wizzyrea |
i am pretty sure 3.10 but.... eeeee... not sure |
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dani1 |
So, her choice is fee removed or not, instead of max fines per item... |
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wizzyrea |
maybe that was 3.12 |
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wizzyrea |
right |
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dani1 |
OK. Got it. |
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wizzyrea |
cool, welcome to the community :) |
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dani1 |
thanks! That didn't even hurt. ;) |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
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wizzyrea |
ya hop in and ask questions anytime |
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dani1 |
I am sure I will be back for more. |
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wizzyrea |
http://kohadevreactions.tumblr[…]e-new-shows-up-in |
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wizzyrea |
dani1 ^ |
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dani1 |
ha! |
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drojf |
evening |
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drojf |
we really have to talk about the service in here. what if i'd be a koha novice in desperate need of help? |
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rangi |
heh |
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drojf |
eythian++ # making edge open a website and summoning a schienenschleifwagen |
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drojf |
i consider keeping him :P |
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wizzyrea |
you may not have him! |
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wizzyrea |
(unless he wants to. :P) |
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cjh |
drojf: for a small payment of $49.99/month we can upgrade you to #koha+ |
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drojf |
cjh: lol. that sounds very attractive ;) |
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* mtompset |
doesn't know if he should make the joke.... |
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mtompset |
Really? #koha+ sounds lib... nah, won't go there. |
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mtompset |
Have a great day, #koha. |
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cjh |
heh |
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dcook |
morning #koha |
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wizzyrea |
looks like proper RDA support is going to have to be something high on the priority list very soon. |
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dcook |
wizzyrea: Oh? |
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dcook |
Why might that be? |
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wizzyrea |
lots of people bringing in RDA records that aren't displayed properly. |
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dcook |
What does displayed properly mean though? |
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dcook |
Thanks to bgkriegel and others who have worked on the frameworks, the new frameworks should have up to date tags |
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wizzyrea |
it's not about the frameworks. |
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dcook |
(Although their hidden attributes might need to be edited so that data isn't lost when a record is opened and saved again) |
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dcook |
The templates then? |
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wizzyrea |
mostly the XSLT's |
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dcook |
I did add in the 336, 337, 338, and 264 into our XSLT recently |
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dcook |
I haven't heard about what other tags people are wanting though |
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wizzyrea |
I'm hoping to get people to file bugs about it. |
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dcook |
wizzyrea++ |
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dcook |
That would be awesome :) |
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dcook |
I took a gander a while ago at the Library of Congress catalogue, but the only thing I noticed were the 336,337,338 |
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dcook |
They probably had handling for the 264 as well |
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dcook |
The second indicator does help in terms of figuring out what to display for label text (provided they've been catalogued according to spec) |
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* dcook |
tries to find some RDA records in LoC |
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dcook |
I've noticed they don't display 336,337,338 in the brief record. Only the full record tab. |
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dcook |
http://lccn.loc.gov/2013032917 |
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dcook |
And the permalink I guess.. |
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dcook |
Projected publication date of 1310, eh? |
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wizzyrea |
there are some changes as to how authors are catalogued as well |
