Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
00:00 |
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dcook |
Yep, already has an id |
00:16 |
|
jcamins |
Problem solved. |
00:16 |
|
jcamins |
Pumpernickel chocolate chip cookies are on the menu. |
00:19 |
|
dcook |
Sounds...interesting :p |
00:27 |
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00:43 |
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jcamins |
dcook: if it's a TT plugin, you can make it translatable. |
00:43 |
|
jcamins |
Actually, TT anything can be translatable. |
00:43 |
|
jcamins |
See... |
00:43 |
|
jcamins |
koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/text/explodedterms.tt |
00:44 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, cool :) |
00:45 |
|
dcook |
Then maybe I should look at that again.. |
00:47 |
|
jcamins |
The pumpernickel chocolate chip cookie dough tastes more like molasses chocolate chip cookie dough, but it's yummy. |
00:50 |
|
dcook |
Mmm food |
00:50 |
|
dcook |
I was too busy cleaning up horrifying cat litter boxes and barely catching a cab to the vet to even think about lunch.. |
00:51 |
|
* dcook |
wonders how he's going to manage multiple cats and a baby |
00:51 |
|
dcook |
Not that there are any buns in the oven at present.. |
01:35 |
|
rangi |
2013 is surely the year of the most annoying mail list users to date |
01:47 |
|
dcook |
I have an unrelated question... |
01:47 |
|
dcook |
What's the policy on sign offs from client libraries for vendors? |
01:48 |
|
gmcharlt |
nice thing to see, but it's not an independent signoff |
01:48 |
|
jcamins |
We're all for them, and it's always a good idea to get them, but you'll still need another. |
01:48 |
|
jcamins |
On the other hand, that can encourage people to sign off, if they know someone other than the developer has tested it. |
01:48 |
|
dcook |
Makes sense. How will you know though unless the developer or the individual self-identifies? |
01:48 |
|
rangi |
it would mean id be more likely to attempt signing it off |
01:49 |
|
rangi |
because im less likely to find it doesnt even compile :) |
01:49 |
|
gmcharlt |
rangi: one can hope, one can hope :) |
01:49 |
|
dcook |
Cool. I don't know how many people I could encourage but maybe a few |
01:50 |
|
jcamins |
dcook: if the individual is able to sign off on the patch without anyone knowing it's a customer of the developer, that probably means that the person in question is a Koha developer already. When I was RM, I would probably have accepted that as a sign off. |
01:51 |
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gmcharlt |
it would be a bit like person B from an organization signing off on a patch by person A from the same organization |
01:51 |
|
gmcharlt |
ideally, every organization that's big enough *should* be doing that -- that is, passing work through at least another set of eyes internally before submitting it |
01:52 |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: yeah, but as I saw it, the barrier for signing off was high enough that if, for example, Mathieu signed off on a BibLibre patch, I'd take it as a sufficiently independent sign off. |
01:52 |
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gmcharlt |
but, pace rangi, from the POV of an idepndent tester, that just increases the chance that it is worth *their* time to test it as well |
01:53 |
|
gmcharlt |
as everything, it also depends on the care every tester displays when signing off |
01:53 |
|
gmcharlt |
some people's signoffs have more weight than others by repeated demonstration of their care and good judgment |
01:54 |
|
gmcharlt |
and in other areas (UNIMARC might become this) it may be necessary to consider relaxing the standards a bit for lack of enough folks in a position to test certain areas |
01:54 |
|
gmcharlt |
IOW, it can get fuzzy |
01:55 |
|
dcook |
In the end, up to RM and QA discretion? |
01:55 |
|
rangi |
thats why we vote them in :) |
01:55 |
|
gmcharlt |
for the edge cases, yes |
01:55 |
|
rangi |
guidelines to follow |
01:56 |
|
dcook |
Sounds good to me. |
01:56 |
|
dcook |
I'm a fan of benevolent masters :p |
01:56 |
|
dcook |
Err managers |
01:57 |
|
* gmcharlt |
pushes the cat-o-nine-tails out of view ;) |
01:57 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
02:02 |
|
rangi |
http://vimeo.com/66169135 this is how i imagine all brooklyn librarians |
02:06 |
|
* jcamins |
writes about a freshman comp student writing a report on Old Ivy's football team the Groundhogs. |
02:07 |
|
jcamins |
Bonus points for anyone who recognizes the reference. |
02:07 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1373 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1371 2 days 5 hr ago) |
02:07 |
|
rangi |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFjxEfg_mEw <<-- pretty freaky |
02:09 |
|
ibeardslee |
doesn't seem they 'boats' are required to pick up crew oveboard anymore |
02:09 |
|
rangi |
thats what you have a chase crew for ;) |
02:11 |
|
ibeardslee |
it's not right |
02:11 |
|
rangi |
you'd kill them trying to pick them up with that thing |
02:12 |
|
rangi |
it has 2 speeds, stopped, and way too fast |
02:12 |
|
jcamins |
What is that? |
02:12 |
|
wahanui |
that is a good idea. |
02:13 |
|
rangi |
massive catamaran |
02:13 |
|
jcamins |
It looks like some sort of alien spaceship. |
02:14 |
|
* gmcharlt |
had not associated sailboats and hydrofoils until just now |
02:15 |
|
rangi |
44.15 knots i think is its current topspeed |
02:15 |
|
gmcharlt |
*blink* |
02:16 |
|
rangi |
http://www.americascup.com/en/[…]orning-briefing-2 |
02:16 |
|
rangi |
50.8mph .. that's moving |
02:19 |
|
gmcharlt |
and compares nicely with the overall speed record for sailboats, 65.45 knots |
02:20 |
|
* jcamins |
keeps the bonus points. |
02:21 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
02:21 |
|
* dcook |
has no idea about the reference |
02:21 |
|
jcamins |
Will it help if I tell you the first reference the freshman comp student finds is _Rip the Chipmunks off the field_ by J.B. Biggley? |
02:24 |
|
dcook |
It helps only insofar as I could Google it a bit :p |
02:34 |
|
dcook |
I hate that moment in Bugzilla where you see your duplicate bug in the AJAX list but you're typing too quickly and you miss it... |
02:34 |
|
dcook |
I guess that's what searching is for.. |
02:34 |
|
jcamins |
Heh. |
02:35 |
|
jcamins |
And typing slowly. |
02:35 |
|
dcook |
Blasphemy! |
02:38 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, whether to indicate in the commit message that I'm lazy... |
02:39 |
|
dcook |
Relying on the "IssueLog" preference or adding a new system preference for "RenewLog" to log circulation renewals? |
02:39 |
|
* jcamins |
would prefer IssueLog. |
02:39 |
|
jcamins |
But others will no doubt prefer a new syspref. |
02:39 |
|
jcamins |
Honestly, I'd prefer disabling the ability to turn off logs. |
02:40 |
|
dcook |
It is rather annoying when you look for a log just to find that it's been turned off (or never enabled) |
02:40 |
|
jcamins |
If you want to anonymize your logs, anonymize your logs using a cron job at the end of the day. |
02:41 |
|
jcamins |
There _will_ be a time when you hit the wrong button, and you *know* you screwed up, but you can't quite remember what it was like before. |
02:41 |
|
* dcook |
agrees |
02:41 |
|
dcook |
I might add it with IssueLog (which is how we've done it in the past anyway) |
02:41 |
|
dcook |
If others want a new syspref, they or I can add a follow-up |
03:20 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Yippie, build fixed! |
03:20 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1373: FIXED in 1 hr 13 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1373/ |
04:47 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
04:48 |
|
dcook |
@later tell jcamins I didn't realize that your comment about the freshman and Old Ivy was genuine |
04:48 |
|
huginn` |
dcook: The operation succeeded. |
05:38 |
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05:41 |
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cait |
good morning #koha |
05:43 |
|
dcook |
hey ya cait |
05:43 |
|
cait |
hi dcook |
05:43 |
|
cait |
just looking at your comment :) |
05:43 |
|
dcook |
Mostly just me babbling, I think :p |
05:43 |
|
cait |
i had libraries quite unhappy about item searching in training recently |
05:43 |
|
dcook |
It might be useful to read my last comment last |
05:43 |
|
dcook |
Jared explained things which made me understand your example better |
05:44 |
|
cait |
because the search does not look at the items line by line - so that's probably what I am afraid of |
05:44 |
|
dcook |
line by line? |
05:44 |
|
cait |
well item by item... |
05:44 |
|
cait |
not mixing them all up |
05:44 |
|
cait |
probably i am babbling now |
05:45 |
|
cait |
let me check for the id - i didn't see one when i checked yesterday, weird |
05:46 |
|
cait |
dcook: i think language descriptions for a language facet would be best right now |
05:47 |
|
cait |
dcook: and for the other an include or something that has the strings you want - because authorized values will be one language only... which is always not as nice as having things translatable |
05:47 |
|
cait |
but not sure which you meant and i should probably be commenting on the bug |
05:48 |
|
* dcook |
shrugs |
05:49 |
|
dcook |
jcamins mentioned the possibility of a translateable Template Toolkit plugin |
05:49 |
|
dcook |
That might be a good way of going |
05:53 |
|
cait |
yeah, i was thinking something similar :) |
05:56 |
|
cait |
dcook: checking for those ids again |
05:56 |
|
cait |
and you are right - i checked and still totally missed those :( |
05:57 |
|
dcook |
I totally forgot about them as well :) |
05:58 |
|
dcook |
I was going to say that we should add them, but decided to take a last minute look for them and saw them there |
06:01 |
|
cait |
lots of whitespace there in the template, i think i really missed them |
06:03 |
|
cait |
dcook: i reset the status :) |
06:04 |
|
dcook |
Cool :) |
06:13 |
|
cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
06:13 |
|
huginn` |
cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 18.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on August 19, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
06:13 |
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cait |
now i only have to figure out how to get to work without getting wet :) |
06:15 |
|
dcook |
Umbrella? |
06:15 |
|
dcook |
Teleportation? |
06:15 |
|
dcook |
@wunder sydney, australia |
06:15 |
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huginn` |
dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 17.0°C (4:00 PM EST on August 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
06:16 |
|
cait |
teleportation... that would be nice |
06:16 |
|
dcook |
Mmm, wouldn't it? |
06:16 |
|
dcook |
Mind you, I walked 7km yesterday without it. I probably wouldn't have done all that had I been able to teleprot.. |
06:16 |
|
dcook |
teleport even |
06:22 |
|
* magnuse |
waves |
06:22 |
|
dcook |
hey ya magnuse :) |
06:23 |
|
* cait |
thinks she would spend the day meeting koha friends if there was teleportation |
06:23 |
|
cait |
morning magnuse |
06:25 |
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magnuse |
kia ora cait and dcook |
06:33 |
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06:33 |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
06:33 |
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wahanui |
privet, gaetan_B |
06:33 |
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cait |
hi gaetan_B |
06:33 |
|
gaetan_B |
hallo cait, wie geht's ? |
06:36 |
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magnuse |
bonjour gaetan_B |
06:36 |
|
magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
06:36 |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 23.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on August 19, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
06:36 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
06:36 |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on August 19, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Steady). |
06:36 |
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magnuse |
@wunder konstanz |
06:36 |
|
huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.9°C (8:35 AM CEST on August 19, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising). |
06:41 |
|
cait |
dcook: hm |
06:41 |
|
cait |
dcook: the more I think o fit |
06:41 |
|
cait |
the more i think the singlebranchmode limitation was the right thing to do. |
06:41 |
|
cait |
dcook: or that on by default is confusing by default... unless you have a specific use case |
06:44 |
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dcook |
I agree that it's potentially confusing having them on by default, but I think not having item-level facets all together isn't going to go down very well |
06:44 |
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dcook |
Plus, it's not just facets |
06:44 |
|
dcook |
You can accomplish the same thing via the advanced search |
06:45 |
|
dcook |
Doing an advanced search for branch A and location B (or item type B, etc) will yield potentially misleading results |
06:45 |
|
dcook |
Or rather "could" yield.. |
06:46 |
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dcook |
I think it might make more sense to fix the search rather than hiding facets. Mind you, fixing search isn't a trivial task... |
06:50 |
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06:50 |
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cait |
dcook: that's the problem |
06:50 |
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reiveune |
hello |
06:51 |
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cait |
dcook: i have added an opinion - but leaving as passed qa |
06:51 |
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cait |
dcook: offering features that don't quite work is making false promises i think |
06:51 |
|
dcook |
Ok. Galen might have an opinion as well. |
06:51 |
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cait |
more dangerous than not having the feature :) |
06:51 |
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dcook |
Ah, but we already have made those false promises |
06:52 |
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dcook |
This location facet isn't really any different from anything else |
06:52 |
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cait |
yeah probably, but thefacets will really pull it to the light |
06:52 |
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cait |
ok, time to run :) |
06:52 |
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dcook |
As you mentioned before, that's already the case |
06:52 |
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cait |
sorry! |
06:52 |
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06:52 |
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dcook |
@later tell cait People already realize that Koha searching isn't the best |
06:52 |
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huginn` |
dcook: The operation succeeded. |
06:53 |
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dcook |
Which is quite unfortunate when one thinks about the OPAC as a big search engine for users... |
06:57 |
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magnuse |
yeah |
06:57 |
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magnuse |
search rewrite? |
06:57 |
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wahanui |
it has been said that search rewrite is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]earch_Rewrite_RFC |
06:57 |
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magnuse |
more people and companies could chip in there... |
06:58 |
|
dcook |
Agreed |
06:59 |
|
dcook |
Alas, I think it's one of those issues that isn't super visible |
06:59 |
|
dcook |
Most users might not know when they're getting all the results they should (or getting ones they shouldn't) |
06:59 |
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dcook |
Or if they do realize, they don't raise it with anyone, because it's too timeconsuming |
07:00 |
|
dcook |
Oh...how is it 5pm already... |
07:00 |
|
magnuse |
hehe |
07:01 |
|
dcook |
I'm having issues with OAI sets not showing up for Koha :( |
07:01 |
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dcook |
I've run build_oai_sets.pl and the DB table looks all right but ListIdentifiers isn't showing anything.. |
07:01 |
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dcook |
I swear it did last week though.. |
07:07 |
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magnuse |
ListIdentifiers is supposed to show which sets each record belongs to? |
07:07 |
|
dcook |
Yep |
07:07 |
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dcook |
As should GetRecord and ListIdentifiers, I believe |
07:08 |
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dcook |
It's part of the Header |
07:08 |
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dcook |
Me thinks it's currently set up just to show identifier and datestamp |
07:08 |
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dcook |
But the verb can take a setSpec for selective harvesting.. |
07:10 |
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magnuse |
does that work? |
07:11 |
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dcook |
Yep, that part does |
07:11 |
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dcook |
Which really is the most important part |
07:20 |
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magnuse |
ooh bug 10756 |
07:20 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10756 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Carousel Display of New Titles on OPAC home page |
07:21 |
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dcook |
Oooh. Looks cool! |
07:22 |
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magnuse |
yup |
07:22 |
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dcook |
Oooo, it works with mouse scroll too |
07:24 |
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magnuse |
it requires memcached? that's interesting |
07:25 |
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magnuse |
i wonder how it gets the images |
07:25 |
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07:26 |
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magnuse |
kia ora kf! |
07:26 |
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kf |
hi magnuse :) |
07:26 |
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* kf |
looks for dcook |
07:26 |
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* magnuse |
urges dcook to run or hide |
07:28 |
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dcook |
Mmm, I should run as it's 5:28pm but I'll... |
07:28 |
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dcook |
Wait a minute...:p |
07:28 |
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kf |
magnuse: the question was more if i should run or hide :) |
07:28 |
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* dcook |
doesn't think that he's that threatening :p |
07:29 |
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magnuse |
kf: ah |
07:34 |
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dcook |
Ahh...I should go... |
07:34 |
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* dcook |
is silly for staying |
07:34 |
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kf |
sleep well :) |
07:36 |
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dcook |
Thanks :) |
07:36 |
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dcook |
Have a good day kf, magnuse, any anyone lurking ;) |
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08:33 |
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samueld |
hi everybody |
08:53 |
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magnuse |
hiya samueld |
09:41 |
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magnuse |
gah, needs signoff is at 163 again... |
09:41 |
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magnuse |
next gbsd? |
09:41 |
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wahanui |
rumour has it next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day |
09:41 |
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magnuse |
ooh, that's this friday, folks! |
09:49 |
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kf |
is it? yay! |
09:50 |
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magnuse |
:-) |
09:51 |
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magnuse |
be there or be [_] |
09:51 |
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magnuse |
[_] is square |
09:51 |
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magnuse |
[_]? |
10:00 |
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kf |
wahanui: [_] is square |
10:00 |
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wahanui |
OK, kf. |
10:00 |
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kf |
[_]? |
10:00 |
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wahanui |
[_] is square |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
10:22 |
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kf |
hi drojf |
10:24 |
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drojf |
hi kf |
10:52 |
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kf |
hi khall |
10:52 |
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khall |
hi kf! |
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kf |
oh wow thunder |
11:31 |
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kf |
loud! |
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drojf |
nice :) |
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12:37 |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
12:37 |
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marcelr |
anyone else seen this problem in current master: add/edit items: click Edit: Undefined subroutine &main::plugin_parameters called ? Did not change anything in frameworks.. |
12:38 |
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marcelr |
Edit marc record gives no problems |
12:38 |
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jcamins |
marcelr: I have not. Is it possible that you were using a plugin that has been deleted? |
12:38 |
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marcelr |
i need to check that |
12:38 |
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marcelr |
has one been removed from the codebase |
12:38 |
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marcelr |
? |
12:39 |
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jcamins |
Hmmm... |
12:39 |
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jcamins |
I don't think so. |
12:39 |
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jcamins |
Not in months and months. |
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12:52 |
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kf |
hm |
12:52 |
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kf |
can somen confirm that quotes only show up for untanslated (english) templates? |
12:52 |
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kf |
the quotes list in the staff interface |
12:52 |
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jcamins |
In tools? |
12:52 |
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kf |
yep |
12:52 |
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jcamins |
It works fine in French. |
12:53 |
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kf |
maybe i mistranslated something |
12:53 |
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kf |
it doesn't in german |
12:53 |
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jcamins |
And Norwegian. |
12:53 |
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wahanui |
norwegian is like the german! |
12:53 |
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kf |
you don't have german by chance? |
12:53 |
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jcamins |
But not in German. |
12:53 |
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kf |
meh |
12:53 |
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jcamins |
Nor Arabic. |
12:54 |
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kf |
intersting |
12:55 |
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* magnuse |
breathes a selfish sigh of relief |
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pokes magnuse |
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magnuse |
kf? |
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wahanui |
i think kf is very interested in accessibility |
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kf |
lol |
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kf |
that was for your selfish sighing :) |
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* magnuse |
will refrain from that in the future, at least in public |
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kf |
heh |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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kf |
hi oleonard |
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jcamins |
Good morning. |
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kf |
hi jcamins |
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kf |
kenza++ |
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oleonard |
Indeed. |
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oleonard |
kenza++ |
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kf |
oleonard: you will still need to rebase :) i failed miserably at trying |
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kf |
it's probably not hard, i just got confused |
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oleonard |
Doing it now |
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tcohen |
morning #koha |
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tcohen |
@wunder cordoba, argentina |
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kf |
oleonard++ |
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kf |
and hi tcohen :) |
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tcohen |
hi kf |
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@wunder 77098 |
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tcohen |
kf, would u give 10678 a try if have the time? |
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tcohen |
it proposes a small workflow change for z39.50 cataloguing |
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@wunder 64507 |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10704: make OPAC highlighting work across previous/next travel <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bba4c0cd0818785a7> / bug 10728: fix additional log noise generated by subscription-renew.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ff3fe7864317e5e26> / Bug 10728: fix log noise generated by subscription-renew.pl <http://gi |
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kmkale1 |
Hello #koha |
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jcamins |
Hey, kmkale1. Long time no see. :) |
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kmkale1 |
Hi jcamins :-) Indeed!! how are you? |
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jcamins |
Doing pretty well. Just launched a new product, which is always exciting. |
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kmkale |
Good to hear that jcamins. ALl the best on the new project |
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jcamins |
Thanks. Are you working on Koha again? |
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kmkale |
No :-( |
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kmkale |
Just came to hang and meet friends |
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kmkale |
:-) |
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druthb |
Hi, kmkale! :) |
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kmkale |
hey Ruth :-) |
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gmcharlt |
hi kmkale |
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kmkale |
Hi Galen |
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kmkale |
So friends whats happening in kohaland? :-) |
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jcamins |
The RM for 3.12 survived the release process, barely, and is gradually recovering. |
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gmcharlt |
same old, same old, just baking some Koha Pi |
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kmkale |
:-D and who is the brave RM? |
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* gmcharlt |
is |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: hehe. Very nice. |
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kmkale |
haha then nothing to worry about. Old hand at the helm!! |
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gmcharlt |
hey! who are you calling old? ;) |
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kmkale |
:-D urm experienced experienced :-P |
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gmcharlt |
heh |
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kmkale |
Hey one quick question : Is koha on Solr now? |
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jcamins |
Not really, no. |
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kmkale |
oh! |
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jcamins |
There is some code for Solr, but it is not full-featured. |
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kmkale |
So whats the roadmap? Zebra AND Solr or Only Zebra? |
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jcamins |
Zebra-only until someone picks up the work on solr. |
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kmkale |
humm. I thought Biblibre had a working setup with solr last time I was around |
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jcamins |
They did, but it was based on 3.2. Some of their code has been ported, but not all. |
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kmkale |
Oh. Just curious cause we are using Solr in our current project. |
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jcamins |
I'm using ElasticSearch in my new project. It's great. |
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kf |
bug 10678 |
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wahanui |
bug 10678 is a nice and harmless improvement |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10678 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Allow framework selection when creating from Z39.50 |
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kmkale |
Looks useful. Thanks jcamins |
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kmkale |
hi kf :-) |
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kmkale |
bye friends. See you around :-) |
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jenkins_koha |
Project master_maria build #54: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/master_maria/54/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Colin Campbell: Bug 10728: fix log noise generated by subscription-renew.pl |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: bug 10728: fix additional log noise generated by subscription-renew.pl |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10728 trivial, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , subscription-renew generates unnecessary warnings in logs |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #55 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: bug 9916: (follow-up) restore default sort order on OPAC tags list <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b7d8491ffc41ec40c> / bug 9916: (follow-up) restore default sort order for self-check loan list <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]59a702047dee79137> / bug 9916: (follow-up) restore default sort order for OPAC search hi |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard++ |
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tcohen |
should postinstall script from packages handle SAX Parser selection? |
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jcamins |
tcohen: it does. |
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tcohen |
i don't see it jcamins |
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reiveune |
bye |
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jcamins |
tcohen: I don't know where, but it definitely sets up the SAX parser correctly. |
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gmcharlt |
related, the issue becomes moot in Jessie |
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tcohen |
i have a vanilla 12.04 with Expat set as the highest priority |
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gmcharlt |
or rather, could become moot if we bump up the required version of MARC::File::XML to 1.0.1 |
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kf |
gmcharlt++ |
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tcohen |
does MARC::File::XML take care of setting its xml parser? |
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jcamins |
tcohen: and you're having problems with parsing? |
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jcamins |
I found that the packages Just Worked when it camed to selecting a parser, and that I could not recreate any problems with other parsers anyway. |
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tcohen |
i just noticed sax_parser_print.pl said my setup was bad |
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tcohen |
maybe sax_parser_print.pl should not say Expat is bad |
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gmcharlt |
IIRC, there is an edge case where Expat is indeed bad |
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gmcharlt |
I don't have the details hand, however |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: unfortunately, no one can come up with that edge case. |
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gmcharlt |
s/bad/bad not suited for MARC::File::XML/ |
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jcamins |
tcohen: I'm pretty sure that the packages load the correct XML parser anyway. |
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tcohen |
i don't see the install scripts changing anything sax related |
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tcohen |
but i'm confident you are right, np |
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jcamins |
Try triggering a stacktrace in the correct SAX parser. I was concerned about the same thing initially, but found that it worked anyway. |
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tcohen |
i'm on vacation today, don't have access to my dev server |
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tcohen |
does debian have the update-perl-sax-parsers script? |
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tcohen |
it does |
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jcamins |
Looks like it. |
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wahanui |
looks like it is only free as in beer but i think that will do for the person who is supposed to use it |
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* druthb |
chucks a Skittle at wahanui. |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10701: fix display of transit status on the bibliographic detail page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e5c7f0400bab0c363> |
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oleonard |
wahanui: forget looks like it |
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wahanui |
oleonard: I forgot looks like it |
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oleonard |
wahanui: Looks like it is <reply> Can we get some hard data on that? |
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wahanui |
bugger all, i dunno, oleonard |
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oleonard |
dang |
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jcamins |
wahanui: Looks like it is <reply> Can we get some hard data on that$ |
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wahanui |
OK, jcamins. |
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jcamins |
Looks like it |
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wahanui |
Can we get some hard data on that$ |
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jcamins |
wahanui: Looks like it is s/\$/?/ |
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wahanui |
...but looks like it is <reply> Can we get some hard data on that$... |
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jcamins |
wahanui: Looks like it is =~ s/\$/?/ |
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wahanui |
I didn't have anything matching 'looks like it is', jcamins |
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jcamins |
wahanui: Can we get some hard data on that =~ s/\$/?/ |
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wahanui |
I didn't have anything matching 'can we get some hard data on that', jcamins |
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jcamins |
wahanui: Looks like it =~ s/\$/?/ |
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wahanui |
That doesn't contain '\$', jcamins |
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jcamins |
wahanui: Looks like it =~ s/$/?/ |
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wahanui |
OK, jcamins |
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jcamins |
Looks like it. |
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wahanui |
Can we get some hard data on that? |
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jcamins |
Ha! |
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druthb |
jcamins++ |
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jenkins_koha |
Project master_maria build #55: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/master_maria/55/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Jonathan Field: Bug 10704: make OPAC highlighting work across previous/next travel |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10704 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Search term highlighting doesn't work beyond the first results page |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #56 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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Project Koha_master build #1374: SUCCESS in 1 hr 15 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1374/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Colin Campbell: Bug 10728: fix log noise generated by subscription-renew.pl |
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* Galen Charlton: bug 10728: fix additional log noise generated by subscription-renew.pl |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Field: Bug 10704: make OPAC highlighting work across previous/next travel |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10728 trivial, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , subscription-renew generates unnecessary warnings in logs |
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gaetan_B |
bye ! |
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* Owen Leonard: Bug 9916 - Use DataTables in the OPAC |
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* Galen Charlton: Bug 9916: (follow-up) restore default sort order for OPAC "most popular" page |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: bug 9916: (follow-up) restore default sort order for OPAC search history |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: bug 9916: (follow-up) restore default sort order for self-check loan list |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: bug 9916: (follow-up) restore default sort order on OPAC tags list |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9916 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables in the OPAC |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 10701: fix display of transit status on the bibliographic detail page |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10701 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , In transit information doesn't display on the bibliographic detail page |
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* Owen Leonard: Bug 9916 - Use DataTables in the OPAC |
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* Galen Charlton: Bug 9916: (follow-up) restore default sort order for OPAC "most popular" page |
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* Galen Charlton: bug 9916: (follow-up) restore default sort order for OPAC search history |
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* Galen Charlton: bug 9916: (follow-up) restore default sort order for self-check loan list |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9916 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables in the OPAC |
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* Galen Charlton: bug 9916: (follow-up) restore default sort order on OPAC tags list |
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* Owen Leonard: Bug 10701: fix display of transit status on the bibliographic detail page |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10701 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , In transit information doesn't display on the bibliographic detail page |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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huginn` |
gmcharlt: Quote #196: "oleonard: maybe if I didn't have all this Bugzilla stuff stored in my head I would be able to walk and chew gum at the same time." (added by wizzyrea at 04:41 PM, April 02, 2012) |
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druthb |
@quote random |
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druthb: Quote #256: "<jcamins> Cool. New and spectacularly revised deduper works. And it is, if I may say, a super deduper." (added by wizzyrea at 03:33 AM, June 05, 2013) |
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jcamins |
lol |
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* jcamins |
amuses himself. |
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druthb |
some persons are easily amused. |
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druthb |
:P |
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jcamins |
You aren't amused by that quote? |
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druthb |
oh, absolutely. |
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cait |
good evening #koha |
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pianohacker |
hey cait |
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rambutan |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi rambutan and pianohacker :) |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: I call your attention to bug 10766 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10766 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Cataloging reservoir search broken if UseQueryParser is off |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: gosh that was fast. |
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jcamins |
I was going to patch it after I finished this e-mail. |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt++ |
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cait |
gmcharlt++ |
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cait |
jcamins: you could fix opacsuppression if you got bored ;) |
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cait |
and really only joking |
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jcamins |
cait: not a chance. |
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cait |
*sigh* |
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jcamins |
10766 is fixable. opacsuppression... not really. |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
not at all? |
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jcamins |
Well, given a saint, sure. |
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cait |
i don't mean the general feature, just that it doesn't work with the queryparser |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: you'll notice somebody standing behind you holding up a brass halo ;) |
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jcamins |
That I could fix. |
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cait |
bug 10542 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10542 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , QueryParser + OpacSuppression doesn't allow search in 'all libraries' |
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cait |
gmcharlt++ #lol :) |
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* cait |
wills her dinner to cook faster |
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* druthb |
waves to drojf, and offers a cookie. |
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cait |
oleonard++ :) |
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cait |
sometimes it's really tempting to mark all bugs somehow with one of the modules oleonard takes care of... :) |
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oleonard |
I'm always excited to find a bug I can fix hiding in a module that I don't normally fix bugs in. |
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cait |
heh :) |
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drojf |
if you ever wondered what berlin looks like in 2013, that's it http://www.demotix.com/news/24[…]-berlin/all-media |
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drojf |
druthb: thanks for the cookie. don't feel like eating |
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jcamins |
drojf: can you eat things made with rye and spelt flour? |
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jcamins |
If there's no wheat. |
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jcamins |
I know spelt is safe, but I'm not sure about rye. |
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drojf |
jcamins: i'm completely off gluten, so none of those |
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jcamins |
drojf: I thought spelt was gluten-free? |
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drojf |
no it's no |
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drojf |
not |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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jcamins |
I did not know that. |
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drojf |
would be much easier then, i liked spelt more than wheat anyway |
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jcamins |
Are we proposing to get rid of the cataloging search? |
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oleonard |
jcamins: It sounds like the hangup is the ability to search the reservoir |
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jcamins |
I don't quite know what we'd get by removing that. |
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jcamins |
I mean, unless we're going to go the Biblionarrator route and massively reconceptualize the catalogue to eliminate the distinction between "professional" and "public" interfaces. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: oh, that's easy: CCL for ALL! |
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gmcharlt |
;) |
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jcamins |
And I'm not saying it would be a bad thing to do that. I think it's a great idea. But not something I foresee happening. |
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gmcharlt: I prefer QP syntax. It's far less ambiguous. |
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oleonard |
How do you explain to the user the difference between results returned by a regular search and those returned by a "cataloging search?" |
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jcamins |
I generally don't, other than "cataloging search includes results from the reservoir." |
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pianohacker |
I'm separating the two completely in the new cataloging editor, actually |
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pianohacker |
my hope is to also be able to save to the reservoir and use it as a staging area for records, if that's your thing |
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Hi all, quick question : Is there any way to add "logic" in the ISBD sys. pref ? My case is : I would like to move a field display only if the first line is empty. ( If 100$xx are empty, move 260$c after 245$xx, if 100$XX is not empty display 260$c before 245$xx). |
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alaquerre |
Reference : http://manual.koha-community.o[…]ion.html#isbdpref |
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pianohacker |
alaquerre: What you're talking about would be much easier with XSLT |
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alaquerre |
I know but user are asking us to be able to do so. |
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alaquerre: I do not think that can be done. |
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jcamins |
Though I could be wrong. |
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alaquerre |
I did try to put in javascript but did'nt work.. thanks anyway! :-) |
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* cait |
waves again |
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* cait |
switches to mean qa mode |
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cait |
hm. |
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cait |
khall: still around? |
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mtompset |
mean qa mode?! |
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mtompset |
Is there a non-mean qa mode too, cait? |
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cait |
not really |
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jcamins |
There's "not doing QA." |
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cait |
hm yeah |
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cait |
but right now I woudl ike to know why this test fails |
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cait |
hm, does db_d/Circulation.t fial for someone else? |
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cait |
I think it should work... but it doesn't |
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cait |
for me |
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jcamins |
It passes for me. |
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cait |
ah he flees. |
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cait |
jcamins: i htink i am missing something in my database probably |
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cait |
aah |
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cait |
mismathc of ids between reserves and old_reserves? |
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cait |
truncating old_reserves fixed it |
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tcohen |
cait, question on top most circulated items |
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cait |
uhoh |
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cait |
ok? :) |
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tcohen |
would u agree that if no check-in filter is passed, current loans should be considered too? |
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cait |
tcohen: um |
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cait |
where is that? |
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wahanui |
well, that is a good idea. |
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cait |
not sure what we are talking about :) |
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tcohen |
cgi-bin/koha/reports/cat_issues_top.pl |
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cait |
tcohen: hm i think i disagree |
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cait |
maybe we should have a checkbox |
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cait |
include/not include checked out items |
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cait |
does it query issues and old_issues already? |
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tcohen |
it only queries old-issues |
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cait |
hm i think that's not an easy question |
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cait |
but i wouldn't make it dependenton the checkin /checkout dates |
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cait |
i think i wouldn't expect that to make a difference |
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tcohen |
it depends on the definition of "circulated" I guess |
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oleonard |
Bye everyone |
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cait |
tcohen: maybe |
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cait |
tcohen: i think an explicit filter would be nicest |
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tcohen |
but "renewed" should count as checked-in and then checked-out again |
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cait |
hm no i don't think so |
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cait |
i know some ils does it that way |
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tcohen |
ok, so it is customary to count only checked-in items, and libraries expect Koha to work like that |
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cait |
i don't really know :( |
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cait |
you might want to ask some more people - maybe wizzyrea |
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tcohen |
our libraries don't use the report because they find it in-accurate |
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cait |
i think it really depends on definition a lot |
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tcohen |
yeah, I guess |
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tcohen |
thanks cait |
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wizzyrea |
sorry I saw my neam |
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wizzyrea |
name* |
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cait |
tcohen was confusing me about the most circulated item reports |
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wizzyrea |
also good morning |
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cait |
and i was hoping for your help :) |
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wonders why it doesn't ask statistics. |
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cait |
also an excellent question |
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wizzyrea |
the question is whether "most circulated" should look at current loans in addition to completed loans? |
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cait |
one of the questions i guess |
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rangi |
kenza++ |
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rangi |
joubu++ |
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cait |
night all |
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wahanui |
goodnight cait. You'll be back. |
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morning #koha |
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mtompset |
Greetings, dcook. :) |
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hey ya mtompset |
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