IRC log for #koha, 2013-08-18

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00:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #337: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/337/
00:16 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10290: Followup for Virtualshelves.t
00:16 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10386: improvements to VirtualShelves.t
00:16 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10484: serials-edit.pl not checking for barcode field before checking for barcode subfield
00:16 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10497 - star ratings not showing right in ccsr detail
00:16 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10029 - CAS authentication fails in OPAC reserve
00:16 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10290 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , UT: VirtualShelves.t needs to create its own data
00:16 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10386 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , UT: VirtualShelves.t needs some more adjustments
00:16 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10484 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , serials-edit.pl not checking for barcode field before checking for barcode subfield
00:16 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10497 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , star ratings not showing right in ccsr detail
00:16 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10029 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , CAS authentication fails in OPAC reserve
04:30 jenkins_koha Starting build #338 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
04:44 cjh hmmm so is the marc framework SQL translated? e.g. will a german librarian see '('006', 'FIXED-LENGTH DATA ELEMENTS--ADDITIONAL MATERIAL CHARACTERISTICS', 'FIXED-LENGTH DATA ELEMENTS--ADDITIONAL MATERIAL CHARACTERISTICS', 1, 0, '', ''),' ?
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05:01 cjh or maybe they are only internal descriptions, hmm
05:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #338: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/338/
05:09 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10428: undefined check in add additem.pl
05:09 jenkins_koha * Marc Veron: Bug 5894: Display all titles when confirming copy of items from cart to list
05:09 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9113: fix handling of certain characters by item batch modification tool
05:09 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9533: batch item modification form now shows default field values only by request
05:09 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10428 trivial, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , undefined check in add additem.pl
05:09 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5894 normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , Adding multiple items from a cart to a list shows only the first title
05:09 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9113 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , batch modification removes +
05:09 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9533 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , batch item modification should ignore defaults
05:09 jenkins_koha Starting build #339 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
05:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #339: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/339/
05:47 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10088: FIX adding an order from a staged file.
05:47 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10384: fall back to normal authentication if LDAP server is not available
05:47 jenkins_koha * Sonia LEMAIRE: Bug 9519: fix code for Italian language search limiter
05:47 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10535: by default sort funds by name
05:47 jenkins_koha * Robin Sheat: Bug 10560: make it possible for default interface language to not be English
05:47 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10560: add regression test
05:47 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10088 critical, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, software error when filling a basket with staged record
05:47 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10384 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Software error when LDAP connexion fails
05:47 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9519 trivial, P5 - low, ---, sonia.lemaire, Pushed to Stable , Wrong language code for Italian in the advanced search language limitations
05:47 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10535 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , by default sort funds by name
05:47 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10560 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , No way to disable english
05:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #340 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
05:56 cjh good work huginn` and jenkins_koha
06:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #340: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/340/
06:25 jenkins_koha Katrin Fischer: Bug 10490: Overdue fines cap can't store decimal values
06:25 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10490 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Overdue fines cap (amount) in circulation rules is saved incorrectly (rounded)
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08:16 cait good morning #koha
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15:28 tcohen hi #Koha
15:34 cait hi tcohen
15:34 cait :)
15:35 tcohen hi cait
15:36 cait what are you doing here on a sunday? ;)
15:37 tcohen heh, the same I ask you mayb?
15:45 cait hm no, i am always here - people stopped wondering :P
15:46 tcohen heh
15:46 tcohen i'm revisiting a presentation i'll give about git
15:48 cait @later tell khall could you take a look at 7639 please? Not sure if you will spot my comment in all the bug mails :)
15:48 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded.
15:48 cait tcohen++ # being well prepared
15:48 tcohen i'm collecting good defaults for git config
15:49 tcohen color.ui auto is one i like :-D
15:49 cait tcohen: will you share your presentation somewhere? :)
15:49 cait tcohen: what does it do?
15:50 tcohen colorfull output
15:50 cait working with git there are also a lot of bash hacks
15:50 cait to show you the branch you are working on
15:50 cait and if it has unsubmitted changes and the like
15:51 cait something like this: http://code-worrier.com/blog/g[…]h-in-bash-prompt/
15:51 cait but there is a lot on the internet - it's quite useful, but not strictly git :)
15:51 tcohen I use this in .bashrc
15:51 tcohen git config --global color.ui auto
15:51 tcohen PS1='\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\​[\033[01;34m\]\W\[\033[00m\]$(__git_ps1 "\[\e[1;33m\](%s)\[\e[0m\]")$ '
15:51 tcohen ^^^^^^this
15:51 cait :)
15:54 tcohen hmm, i like magenta for the branchname
15:55 cait heh
16:00 tcohen hmm, our wiki doesn't mention git add, but git comit file
16:12 cait oh?
16:15 tcohen http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_Git#Do_some_work
16:25 cait @wunder Konstanz
16:25 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 27.3°C (6:25 PM CEST on August 18, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
16:31 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
16:31 huginn` tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 23.0°C (1:00 PM ART on August 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 14%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
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19:05 jcamins cait++
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20:57 jcamins cait?
20:57 wahanui cait: go to bed
20:58 cait oh no yet
21:29 cait @wunder Konstanz
21:29 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 20.7°C (11:25 PM CEST on August 18, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
21:33 * cait wonders what the difference betwen CircControl and HomeOrHoldingBranch is as they are described exactly the same in the system preference editor with different options for each and are both used in the code.
21:33 cait waaah.
21:42 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]job/master_maria/
21:42 rangi w00t
21:42 rangi no fails
21:46 cait yay :)
21:50 jcamins Yay!
21:51 jcamins Have the aftershocks stopped?
21:52 rangi hmm not ereally
21:52 rangi http://geonet.org.nz/quakes/felt
21:53 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]-in-the-next-week
22:02 cait release cycle?
22:02 cait release?
22:02 wahanui hmmm... release is the 22nd nz time every month
22:02 cait hm
22:03 cait what was the right one.
22:03 cait release dates?
22:03 wahanui release dates are a bit fuzzy, so hate to put them on (in case we miss by days/weeks)
22:06 cait timeline?
22:06 wahanui it has been said that timeline is drawn from the history.txt file
22:06 cait hm.
22:06 cait release dates are http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gmcharlt#Timeline
22:06 cait release dates?
22:06 wahanui release dates are a bit fuzzy, so hate to put them on (in case we miss by days/weeks)
22:07 * cait gives up
22:09 jcamins release schedule?
22:09 wahanui release schedule is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gmcharlt#Timeline
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22:55 cjh wahanui: forget release dates
22:55 wahanui cjh: I forgot release dates
22:55 cjh wahanui: release dates are http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gmcharlt#Timeline
22:55 wahanui OK, cjh.
22:55 cjh release dates?
22:55 wahanui release dates are http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gmcharlt#Timeline
22:55 cjh cait: :)
22:55 cjh wahanui: you are difficult.
22:55 wahanui ...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow.|a little bit creepy.|right sometimes|a strange duck...
22:55 cait ah... i knew i put it somewhere
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23:42 jcamins dcook: so far as I know the location facets don't work the way you described.
23:42 dcook No?
23:42 wahanui http://i.imgur.com/hVVuP.jpg
23:42 jcamins You've described the way we would like them to work, though.
23:42 jcamins Imagine now that Item 3 (on bib #1) is from Branch B, Location D.
23:42 dcook Mmm, I might've incorrectly described one thing
23:43 dcook Ok
23:43 jcamins If you limit on branch A, what location facets will be displayed?
23:43 dcook location C
23:43 jcamins (assuming there are other results so that you get facets and not taken straight to the record.)
23:43 jcamins And D.
23:44 dcook I don't think I've ever seen that
23:44 jcamins Really? I haven't tried it, but I certainly know that based on the code, that's what it *should* do.
23:44 dcook Why would D show?
23:44 jcamins Because the facets are based on what's in the record.
23:44 dcook Oh wait
23:44 dcook I might've read you wrong
23:45 dcook Ah, sorry
23:45 dcook Yeah, I read you wrong
23:45 dcook Yeah, for sure both would show
23:45 * dcook thought you said Item 3 (on bib #2) for some reason
23:46 jcamins Yeah, I had a feeling that's where you got confused.
23:46 jcamins As I typed it, I thought "he's going to think I meant bib 2."
23:46 jcamins I kept typing.
23:46 dcook hehe
23:46 dcook But that's still really a problem of display in the end
23:46 jcamins Not really.
23:46 jcamins (I'm explaining why)
23:47 dcook Sounds good
23:47 jcamins Anyway, the problem is if you then add the facet on location D, someone who limited on branch A is still going to see location D.
23:47 dcook ?
23:47 jcamins Which, perhaps is "Bestsellers (no holds)."
23:48 jcamins So they choose that facet.
23:48 dcook Do you mean the facet for location C and still see D?
23:48 jcamins The facet for branch A.
23:48 jcamins And then A.
23:48 jcamins *D
23:48 dcook Alphabet soup..
23:49 jcamins Yeah, A-D was not the best choice of labels. :P
23:49 dcook branch A + location D = location D (and location C, if that bib has an item with location C)
23:49 dcook I've certainly seen that quite a bit
23:49 jcamins Right, except here's the thing.
23:49 dcook Even if location C belongs to a different branch than branch A
23:49 jcamins Branch A *doesn't have location D*.
23:50 jcamins Or, the books that the patron is seeing aren't in location D at branch A.
23:50 dcook Totes
23:50 jcamins That's the problem that cait is pointing out.
23:50 dcook Mmmm
23:51 * dcook ponders
23:51 jcamins In a multi-branch environment where locations aren't standardized, a lot of the location facets are going to be confusing.
23:51 jcamins (because they're not actually relevant, but in the facet display there is no indication of that fact)
23:52 dcook It certainly is a tough one
23:52 * jcamins contemplates gloomily the dearth of weird ingredients in his apartment for baking with.
23:53 jcamins Seriously, I've got *nothing* of interest.
23:53 dcook In the end, it's probably still best to have it on, and just have an option for turning it off
23:53 dcook Because you sometimes have single branches who have multi branches who don't use singleBranch mode
23:53 jcamins Yeah, CSS IDs seem to me like the way to go.
23:54 jcamins Well... I have watermelon.
23:54 dcook lol
23:54 dcook Watermelon is interesting
23:54 * jcamins will grant this.
23:54 jcamins I nearly forgot.
23:55 jcamins Bah.
23:56 jcamins I am unimpressed by the suggestions online.
23:57 dcook Huh..
23:57 dcook I think the Location facet already has an ID
23:57 dcook Unless I added that on our version..
23:57 jcamins It's possible. I didn't look at the code.
23:57 dcook Hmm

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