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mtompset |
But this code issue... is one of those silent log filling kind. YAY! another beast to have been slain. ;) |
00:14 |
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dcook |
IE-- |
00:14 |
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jcamins |
Does anyone know how to serialize a Perl data structure with LibXML? |
00:49 |
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dcook |
jcamins: Nope, but that would be a good thing to know, I imagine |
00:57 |
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jcamins |
dcook: apparently it's complicated. |
00:57 |
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jcamins |
I think I'll go with an easier option. |
00:57 |
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dcook |
? http://phaq.phunsites.net/2012[…]l-with-xmldumper/ |
01:00 |
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jcamins |
Yeah. |
01:02 |
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dcook |
Seems like there are lots of examples going the other way around |
01:05 |
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jcamins |
Well, that's the harder thing. |
01:06 |
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jcamins |
I decided to just use "<$elem>" . $meta->{$key} . "</$elem>" |
01:07 |
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dcook |
What are you using it for? |
01:08 |
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jcamins |
Adding meta-metadata to search results. |
01:08 |
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dcook |
Meta-metadata, eh? |
01:09 |
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jcamins |
Yep. |
01:09 |
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dcook |
Such as? |
01:09 |
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jcamins |
Result number. |
01:16 |
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eythian |
https://github.com/nomad-labs/OjaiClient <-- rangi and maybe others |
01:16 |
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eythian |
(an android library for interfacing with bluetooth barcode scanners) |
01:18 |
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rangi |
sweet |
01:18 |
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mtompset |
jcamins: http://search.cpan.org/~joseph[…]r-0.623/Writer.pm seems simpler, but I don't know how useful that might be. |
01:21 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: I'd prefer not to add any additional dependencies. |
01:21 |
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mtompset |
My thoughts exactly, if you already can cop out with the way you said. |
01:23 |
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eythian |
jcamins: what are you doing that needs this> |
01:23 |
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eythian |
? |
01:25 |
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jcamins |
eythian: I need the result number to be passed to the XSLT. |
01:25 |
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eythian |
ah right |
01:26 |
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rangi |
i used xml::dumper for my exporting of star ratings |
01:28 |
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rangi |
apropos of nothing :) |
01:45 |
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jcamins |
Does anyone know when $query->referer() won't work? |
01:46 |
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rangi |
IE |
01:46 |
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jcamins |
Of course. |
01:46 |
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rangi |
sometimes |
01:46 |
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jcamins |
I'm okay with that. |
01:47 |
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eythian |
weirdo proxies |
01:47 |
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jcamins |
We already say not to use old versions of IE with the staff client. |
01:47 |
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jcamins |
Weirdo proxies? Bah. |
01:47 |
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eythian |
I've seen it happen. |
01:47 |
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eythian |
Also some people install plugins that supress the referrer information. |
01:48 |
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eythian |
But basically, quite uncommon corner cases. |
01:51 |
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jcamins |
The way we do searching in Koha, short of replacing C4::Search entirely, it looks like the only way to do multiple search-friendly paging is to use the referer. |
01:53 |
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rangi |
one edge case |
01:53 |
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rangi |
the opac is not in public mode |
01:53 |
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rangi |
someone hits a search url |
01:53 |
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rangi |
they get to the login page |
01:53 |
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rangi |
referer i think is messed up at that point |
01:54 |
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rangi |
as its a post |
01:54 |
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jcamins |
Hmm. |
01:54 |
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rangi |
im not sure about that, but something to test |
01:55 |
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jcamins |
Well, this is the staff client, so that's less of an issue for me. |
01:55 |
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rangi |
true |
01:55 |
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rangi |
it might do the same their |
01:55 |
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rangi |
ie do a search, grab the url |
01:56 |
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rangi |
log out |
01:56 |
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rangi |
hit the url |
01:56 |
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rangi |
and see if the referer is ok :) |
01:56 |
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jcamins |
Got it. |
01:56 |
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* jcamins |
will try. |
01:56 |
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rangi |
there too |
01:56 |
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rangi |
:) |
01:58 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, referer is set to the current page. |
02:00 |
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jcamins |
But I think that's a limitation people can learn to live with. |
02:00 |
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rangi |
sweet |
02:00 |
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jcamins |
I mean, if I stored it in the session, it'd get reset anyway. |
02:01 |
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mtompset |
Why would it get reset? If it has been YAMLized into the sessions DB, it will stay for the duration of the session. |
02:01 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: yes, so if you start a new session, it's reset. |
02:02 |
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* wizzyrea |
looks up how much a bluetooth scanner costs |
02:02 |
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mtompset |
Depends on the country, wizzyrea. ;) |
02:02 |
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eythian |
jcamins: store it in the session keyed to a value in the URL |
02:02 |
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eythian |
so you can have multiple search paths in the session at one time |
02:02 |
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eythian |
and it won't break between tabs |
02:02 |
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wizzyrea |
anywhere between cheap and not cheap. |
02:03 |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.barcodesinc.com/soc[…]-soc2870-2559.htm < cheaper |
02:03 |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.barcodesinc.com/mot[…]8-prbu0100awr.htm < not so cheap |
02:04 |
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jcamins |
eythian: I hate to mess up URLs any further. |
02:04 |
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jcamins |
And I think the referer will do. |
02:04 |
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wizzyrea |
oh there's actually one that's more dear than that - 976.50 for a symbol something |
02:05 |
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eythian |
that seems like a lot |
02:08 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: http://www.uline.com/Product/D[…]-Cordless-Scanner |
02:09 |
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wizzyrea |
"does not read 2d barcodes" |
02:09 |
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wizzyrea |
that seems less useful. |
02:09 |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
02:10 |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.barcodesinc.com/sym[…]99AD-AAD04D3C727B |
02:12 |
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eythian |
I don't think 2D barcodes can scan nearly so easily with a laser bar. |
02:13 |
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wizzyrea |
probably not |
02:15 |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.qrscanner.us/3d-bar[…]-2d-barcodes.html < because I had a curious. |
02:15 |
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eythian |
http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/w[…]warns-jim-hickey/ |
02:15 |
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wizzyrea |
snerk |
02:17 |
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eythian |
that barcode article is wrong |
02:17 |
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eythian |
QR codes aren't 3D, and regular ones aren't 2D |
02:17 |
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wizzyrea |
it was my impression that 1d was the usual ones |
02:17 |
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eythian |
yeah |
02:17 |
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wizzyrea |
but I can't tell the difference between examples of 2d and 3d |
02:17 |
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eythian |
there's no such thing as 3D barcodes. |
02:17 |
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wizzyrea |
with my eyes, anyway |
02:18 |
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wizzyrea |
then I am not sure why people sell scanners for them |
02:18 |
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wizzyrea |
must be marketing |
02:18 |
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eythian |
Also, barcodes came about in 1974, not 1988 |
02:19 |
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eythian |
qr codes in '94. |
02:19 |
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wizzyrea |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B[…]de#Example_images ok this is properly helpful |
02:19 |
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dcook |
wikipedia ftw |
02:22 |
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eythian |
I see the high-capacity colour ones around. I think microsoft pushes them. As a result, nothing can read them and no one recognises them. |
02:22 |
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wizzyrea |
snerk |
02:23 |
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eythian |
> A Microsoft Tag is essentially a machine readable web link, analogous to a URL shortening link: when read, the Tag application sends the HCCB data to a Microsoft server, which then returns the publisher's intended URL. The |
02:23 |
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wizzyrea |
apparently there is some marketing around 2D barcodes that are actually 3D |
02:23 |
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eythian |
and that'll be why |
02:23 |
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wizzyrea |
or other way around |
02:23 |
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* dcook |
likes Galen's thansk messages on patches |
02:23 |
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eythian |
if they're 3D they'd have to be in a cube, and would be hard to scan. |
02:23 |
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dcook |
thanks messages too |
02:23 |
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wizzyrea |
we have printers for that now |
02:24 |
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jcamins |
How do you do remainder division in Perl? |
02:24 |
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dcook |
Carefully? |
02:24 |
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wizzyrea |
there does seem to be some expectation that 3D = QR code |
02:24 |
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eythian |
jcamins: % |
02:24 |
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eythian |
wizzyrea: that's totally wrong and by people who don't know anything. |
02:25 |
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wizzyrea |
I didn't say they were right! |
02:25 |
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eythian |
> Unlike 1D and 2D barcodes, the bars in a 3D barcode are read by a scanner that reads the differences in the height of each line. |
02:25 |
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wizzyrea |
just that the confusion exists. |
02:25 |
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eythian |
that, however, is 3D |
02:25 |
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eythian |
well, partially, anyway |
02:25 |
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rangi |
4d reads them yesterday |
02:25 |
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wizzyrea |
kek |
02:26 |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
02:27 |
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jcamins |
Wait... I don't need that. |
02:31 |
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jcamins |
Oh, yes I do. |
02:32 |
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jcamins |
Wow. Our search API is absurd. |
02:32 |
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eythian |
someone should rewrite it. |
02:33 |
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dcook |
Ahhh. Booking hotel roomssss! |
02:33 |
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* dcook |
tries to remember the proper spelling of his street... |
02:34 |
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dcook |
Hmm, they really don't like states with more than 2 letter abbreviations...that's...cool |
02:37 |
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eythian |
I dislike it when things require a state at all. |
02:45 |
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dcook |
Hmm, looks like they have a bug on their booking form as well.. |
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dcook |
Grrr...it appears that the Kohacon hotel registration page didn't work |
04:50 |
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dcook |
Worst error handling ever.. |
04:50 |
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dcook |
Well, maybe not ever... |
04:51 |
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* dcook |
wonders how many other people think they have registrations at the hotel... |
05:13 |
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mtompset |
Have a good day (24 hour period), #koha. |
05:20 |
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dcook |
7,118 emails O_O |
05:20 |
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dcook |
hey ya cait :) |
05:28 |
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cait |
hi dcook :) |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
06:02 |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 22.6°C (8:00 AM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
06:03 |
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dcook |
@wunder sydney, australia |
06:03 |
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huginn |
dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 16.0°C (3:30 PM EST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
06:04 |
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dcook |
I wouldn't mind a few more degrees ;) |
06:05 |
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drojf |
good morning #koha |
06:08 |
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dcook |
hey ya drojf |
06:08 |
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drojf |
hi dcook |
06:08 |
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dcook |
Enjoying the heat? |
06:08 |
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dcook |
Wait...the expression is "hot enough for you?" |
06:09 |
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* dcook |
used to hate when people said that to him...but usually "cold enough for you" with -40 to -60 degree temperatures |
06:09 |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
06:09 |
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huginn |
drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 19.5°C (7:43 AM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
06:10 |
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drojf |
that is pretty warm for my area ;) |
06:10 |
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drojf |
at 8am |
06:10 |
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drojf |
unfortunately i miss most of it sitting at work or in the library |
06:10 |
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cait |
drojf: you think that is warm? |
06:10 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
06:10 |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 22.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling). |
06:11 |
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drojf |
it is warm for berlin. you live in the south ;) |
06:11 |
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* dcook |
remembers having a distinctly chilly experience last time he was in Berlin |
06:11 |
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dcook |
Mind you, I think it was...October |
06:11 |
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drojf |
that certainly was chilly, and probably wet |
06:12 |
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dcook |
It was cloudy. I think it only rained a little bit though. |
06:12 |
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drojf |
it's supposed to be 28° later today. that is more than i need |
06:12 |
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dcook |
That's a bit toasty |
06:12 |
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dcook |
I'm still debating whether I like "too hot" more than "too cold" |
06:13 |
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drojf |
35°C for konstanz. ouch |
06:13 |
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dcook |
Growing up in sub-arctic Canada, my closest friends always made the point that you can put on clothes and blankets in the winter |
06:13 |
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dcook |
You can only take off so many things in the summer |
06:14 |
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dcook |
Ouch. That is pretty warm.. |
06:15 |
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drojf |
cait: 30°@9am. does that mean hitzefrei or did they get rif of that? i remember when i was young we didn't have school when it was 27 or higher at 10am |
06:15 |
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drojf |
s/rif/rid |
06:17 |
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* drojf |
talks like a grampa :D |
06:17 |
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dcook |
hehe |
06:18 |
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dcook |
There were some young teenagers talking about Instagram on the bus last night |
06:18 |
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dcook |
I kept thinking, "When I was a kid, we didn't have mobile phones and we had to dial up for our internet!" |
06:18 |
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dcook |
Actually... |
06:18 |
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dcook |
I think I might have had high speed internet in my teen years... |
06:19 |
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dcook |
But we used to walk through blizzards to school! Up hills! Both ways! |
06:19 |
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* dcook |
actually lived maybe 300m from his high school... |
06:20 |
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drojf |
lol |
06:20 |
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* drojf |
heads to the shower |
06:28 |
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cait |
heh |
06:28 |
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cait |
yeah too hot for me |
06:28 |
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cait |
wish i could work from home |
06:29 |
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wizzyrea |
@wunder nzwn |
06:29 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (6:00 PM NZST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Falling). |
06:29 |
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wizzyrea |
pleasant, really. but gonna be ugly later this week |
06:30 |
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dcook |
Oh? |
06:30 |
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* dcook |
checks the weather |
06:30 |
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dcook |
Hmm, looks like I'm drying my clothes inside today... |
06:30 |
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* dcook |
misses having a tumble dryer |
06:31 |
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* wizzyrea |
too |
06:32 |
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wizzyrea |
we could have one, we're just cheap. |
06:34 |
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dcook |
Yeah, we're cheap too, hehe |
06:34 |
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dcook |
Also, we don't really have any way of venting the thing |
06:34 |
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dcook |
And I'm skeptical of the dryers that don't vent outdoors... |
06:36 |
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* cjh |
also misses having a dryer |
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reiveune |
hello |
06:36 |
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wahanui |
what's up, reiveune |
06:39 |
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* cait |
never had one so doesn't miss it |
06:39 |
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cait |
:P |
06:39 |
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cait |
bbl :) |
06:39 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
06:39 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
06:40 |
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* magnuse |
waves |
06:41 |
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* cait |
instantly wants to omve to norway |
06:42 |
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drojf |
magnuse: hot in bodø? :) |
06:43 |
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magnuse |
drojf: nah, perfect :-) |
06:44 |
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drojf |
:) |
06:44 |
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dcook |
10 degrees perfect? |
06:45 |
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dcook |
You are a trooper, magnuse |
06:45 |
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magnuse |
nope, i just don't like it when it's too hot |
06:45 |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
06:45 |
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drojf |
i wonder what the police state will look like today. |
06:45 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 26.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
06:46 |
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drojf |
i bet people in berlin's center are very happy about police having confiscated their balkonies and force them to keep windows shut |
06:46 |
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wizzyrea |
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/[…]ur-privacy-online |
06:46 |
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drojf |
…because obama arrives tonight |
06:46 |
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wizzyrea |
eff is recommending people turn off referers |
06:47 |
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wizzyrea |
:( |
06:47 |
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wizzyrea |
:( about the police state. |
06:48 |
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drojf |
i'd like them to not let me enter my office for security reasons ;) |
06:49 |
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drojf |
you have to go into about:config to turn off referers? i got a button for that |
06:50 |
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drojf |
a checkbox really. not sure how i got that though. i had it like forever. next to those to turn off cookies, flash, javascript, java… |
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drojf |
ah right, it's an extension. prefbar. |
06:56 |
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magnuse |
hm, are tt things that show up in translations supposed to have double %'s? like so: %s [%% UNLESS hidden.defined('branchcode') %%] |
06:57 |
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Oak |
@wunder islamabad |
06:57 |
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huginn |
Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad Airport, Pakistan is 32.0°C (11:00 AM PKT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.54 in 1000 hPa. |
06:58 |
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dcook |
wizzyrea: I was wondering why you were :(ing the eff |
06:58 |
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dcook |
:p |
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christophe_c |
hello #koha |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
07:10 |
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wizzyrea |
oh I thought jcamins was talking about hanging something off of referers earlier |
07:19 |
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drojf |
does »sorry, but it took so long to unmount my music player« sound like a valid excuse to be late to a meeting? |
07:20 |
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drojf |
finally. see you later #koha |
07:20 |
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dcook |
I read that as "oh I thought jcamins was talking about hanging himself off...earlier" |
07:20 |
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dcook |
Search.pm isn't THAT bad! |
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kf |
hi #koha |
07:47 |
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magnuse |
hiya kf |
07:47 |
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magnuse |
kf: are tt things that show up in translations supposed to have double %'s? like so: %s [%% UNLESS hidden.defined('branchcode') %%] |
07:47 |
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magnuse |
(i asked that earlier but you were away and it seems like the kind of thing you would know) |
07:48 |
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magnuse |
s/would/might/ |
07:50 |
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rangi |
no |
07:50 |
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rangi |
thats just broken |
07:50 |
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* dcook |
is inclined to think the same thing |
07:54 |
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kf |
hm i think %% is how pootle escapes % |
07:54 |
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kf |
but in that case it's probably problematic |
07:55 |
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rangi |
yes |
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kf |
same problem as with \ maybe? |
07:56 |
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magnuse |
anyone know what to do? remove the extra %? |
07:56 |
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kf |
pootle thinks it needs to escape it, but we don't want it to |
07:56 |
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kf |
it might not work, but you can try it |
07:57 |
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kf |
probably you need to rewrite the template to make it not show up in po files |
07:57 |
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magnuse |
gah, precious little time for translating now, let alone testing stuff... :-( |
08:04 |
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cjh |
go magnuse go! |
08:05 |
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magnuse |
:-) |
08:05 |
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kf |
magnuse: if it helps... i probably didn't even notice and translated it wrong |
08:05 |
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* kf |
sighs |
08:05 |
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magnuse |
yeah, that helps a lot! ;-) |
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:Ü |
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kf |
:P even |
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"Click to *rewind* the list to" - what does that mean? |
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kf |
that's from the browser thing on the detail page |
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rangi |
what? |
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kf |
i didn't correct it |
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kf |
I just made it translatable |
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magnuse |
next/previous links on search results? |
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kf |
when you have the browser result list thing and open it up to show that browse option, that's the tooltip on the arrows/pages I think |
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kf |
ok, i am not making sense :P |
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ah, got it |
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dcook |
Home time! |
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wizzyrea: ugh. |
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kf |
hm? |
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kf |
and aren't you awake too early? |
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The fact that EFF is recommending to disable referer. |
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hi #koha |
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@wunder berlin, germany |
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drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 26.5°C (12:13 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling). |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 29.6°C (12:30 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
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drojf |
the good thing is, i'm not at the air conditioned library :) |
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drojf |
s/not/now |
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kf |
*hmpf* |
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@wunder 11375 |
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jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 19.4°C (6:20 AM EDT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising). |
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jcamins |
Eww. That's not a good sign for 6:30am. |
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drojf |
ouch |
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* kf |
had more at 8.... and it was not a good sign |
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kf |
magnuse: poedit complains if you remove one of the %% |
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kf |
so def a problem |
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magnuse |
ouch |
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drojf |
that is probably a weird question, but geolocation services are usually either "real" gps or using wifi ssids to get a location, right? would it be possible to install whatever hardware locally to have a working geolocation service within a library? (and by "whatever hardware" i mean preferably not a satellite) |
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drojf: I'd think you'd also need to provide some sort of GPS client. |
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drojf |
i was thinking of something like a smartphone as a client |
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jcamins |
Right, I think you'd have to provide a client application for the smartphone. |
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libsysguy |
or HTML5 location services |
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drojf |
leaflet.js is quite easy to handle. works for html5 geolocation at least |
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but i'd need a proper signal indoors |
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drojf: http://maps.google.com/help/maps/indoormaps/ |
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libsysguy: interesting, thanks. of course i would want that without the google part :D |
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drojf |
but that is basically what i was thinking about, yes |
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libsysguy |
Google is inescapable |
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libsysguy |
I've accepted it :p |
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drojf |
no it's not |
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drojf |
i haven't :D |
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drojf: in that case you're going to need your own client side code, I think. |
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drojf |
i like how "How do indoor Google Maps work?" does not say anything about how it works |
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libsysguy |
I think they mean "how" in a non-technical perspective |
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drojf |
what kind of perspective would that be? that's madness |
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libsysguy |
I would say the "So simple it could be said to a mom" perspective |
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drojf |
are you trying to insult my mother? :P |
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libsysguy |
I did revise "your" to "a" to avoid any "your mom" jokes :p |
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drojf |
;) |
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libsysguy |
I have to say, I have found AngularJS very interesting |
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libsysguy |
^^ random sidebar |
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@wunder Konstanz |
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kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 32.8°C (2:15 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
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kf |
thought so :( |
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magnuse |
oh wow |
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magnuse |
that's the kind of temp we had in crete |
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magnuse |
and they were complaining about it being hotter than usual |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 12.0°C (2:00 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
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magnuse |
that's more like it |
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chris_n |
heh => http://devopsreactions.tumblr.[…]riting-unit-tests |
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* kf |
still wants to move to norway |
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tcohen |
morning #koha |
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kf |
hi tcohen |
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tcohen |
hi kf |
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tcohen |
rangi++ # qunitjs |
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magnuse |
kf: yay! |
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magnuse |
@wunder oslo, norway |
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magnuse: The current temperature in Holter, Holter, Norway is 24.9°C (2:59 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
gotta be northern norway, though! |
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magnuse |
@wunder nesbyen, norway |
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magnuse: The current temperature in Nesbyen, Norway is 24.9°C (2:50 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: . Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Steady). |
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drojf |
@wunder tromso, norway |
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huginn |
drojf: Error: No such location could be found. |
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drojf |
@wunder tromsø, norway |
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huginn |
drojf: Error: No such location could be found. |
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drojf |
hm |
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tcohen |
@wunder cordoba, argentina |
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tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 3.0°C (9:00 AM ART on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising). |
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@wunder notodden, norway |
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magnuse: The current temperature in Johan Badensveg, Notodden, Norway is 23.3°C (3:00 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
@wunder TSO |
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magnuse: The current temperature in OHDOT 38-Carroll County Garage, Carrollton, Ohio is 17.8°C (8:31 AM EDT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
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magnuse |
@wunder TSØ |
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huginn |
magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
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magnuse |
@wunder tos |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Tromso - Langnes, Norway is 11.0°C (2:50 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
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magnuse |
there you go drojf |
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magnuse |
@wunder longyearbyen |
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huginn |
magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
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magnuse |
@wunder lyr |
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magnuse: The current temperature in Svalbard, Norway is 7.0°C (2:50 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Falling). |
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drojf |
ok i think i prefer 30° over 11 right now. (saying that sitting in climated library with probably ~23° ;) |
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drojf |
@wonder nuuk, greenland |
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huginn |
drojf: downloading the Perl source |
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drojf |
@wunder nuuk, greenland |
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huginn |
drojf: Error: No such location could be found. |
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drojf |
magnuse: where did you get the working codes from? |
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drojf: i googled for e.g. "airport code tromsø" |
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@wunder goh |
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magnuse: The current temperature in Nuuk, Greenland is 4.0°C (10:50 AM WGST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Rising). |
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@wunder thu |
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magnuse: The current temperature in Pituffik, Greenland is 2.0°C (9:58 AM ADT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.27 in 991 hPa (Falling). |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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drojf |
cozy |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 34.0°C (3:00 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 28%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling). |
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kf |
! |
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@wunder 11375 |
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jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 25.3°C (9:06 AM EDT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Rising). |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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drojf: The current temperature in Berlin, Germany is 27.7°C (3:00 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
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drojf |
i think it will be nice at the time i leave ;) |
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magnuse |
i talked to some librarians from georgia (the country) last week, and they had trouble searching for records with georgian characters. i said the solution was probably icu indexing (or solr). anyone got any other ideas? |
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jcamins |
ICU. |
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jcamins |
Without ICU, they will not be able to search for non-Roman characters, period. |
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magnuse |
ok, that's what i thought |
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magnuse |
is there a good description somewhere of how to activate that (in an existing installation)? |
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jcamins |
I don't know. |
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magnuse |
i found http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]of_Arabic_records |
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jcamins |
Yeah, I'd search the wiki for ICU, and if you don't find anything, conclude that there isn't. |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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magnuse |
done :-) |
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magnuse |
how does icu work with the packages? |
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jcamins |
You have to turn it on manually. |
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magnuse |
ok, that's what i thought |
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@wunder nyc |
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kf: The current temperature in Murray Hill, New York, New York is 24.0°C (9:40 AM EDT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Rising). |
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@wunder Konstanz |
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kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 33.4°C (3:15 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
kf: getting colder! |
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kf |
not feeling it |
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vfernandes |
hi people |
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vfernandes |
:) |
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magnuse |
hiya vfernandes |
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vfernandes |
i little question: where to put robots.txt file in Koha to block robots? |
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magnuse |
hm, isn't there an example robots.txt somewhere? |
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jcamins |
vfernandes: in the server root. /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs |
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vfernandes |
https://github.com/fredericd/K[…]ter/README.robots |
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vfernandes |
need to restart apache? |
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jcamins |
No. |
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vfernandes |
http://catalogo.biblioteca.isc[…]iul.pt/robots.txt |
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jcamins |
Looks fine. |
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vfernandes |
bingbot still active |
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jcamins |
Oh, in that case you have a problem with the syntax, most likely. |
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kf |
or the robot is mean :) |
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jcamins |
Or that. |
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jcamins |
Or you haven't waited long enough. |
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jcamins |
They only check once every few days. |
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kf |
maybe if you kick it out? |
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jcamins |
kf: setting up a firewall seems like a bit much. |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
right |
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magnuse |
if you just added the robots.txt they might not pick it up until they start a new "session" |
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kf |
forget what I said. it's hot. |
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kf |
oh |
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vfernandes |
let's wait then... :D |
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vfernandes |
thanks kf, magnuse and jcamins |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9541: make OPAC login page respect OPAC_CSS_OVERRIDE <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]00eff0f93fc79b8a9> |
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tcohen |
do we have bootstrap on the staff interface? |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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jcamins |
Didn't you notice the beautiful buttons? :) |
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tcohen |
yes |
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tcohen |
i thought it was jqueryui thou |
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jcamins |
Nope. Bootstrap. |
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* tcohen |
heads to rewrite the search box using saner code :-P |
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tcohen |
(just a sample one) |
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tcohen |
oh, that's why the search button isn't pretty jcamins? It isn't bootstrap |
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jcamins |
tcohen: Yes, but our standard look and feel is that submit buttons are ugly. |
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drojf |
lol |
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jcamins |
drojf: no, really. I'm serious. |
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drojf |
unique selling point. (i think i learned that word here a few days ago) |
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tcohen |
jajaja |
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tcohen |
is there a bug for that jcamins? or was an RFC? |
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jcamins |
tcohen: no, that's just what Owen said we should do. |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #68: "gmcharlt: which probably means that library schools ought to rename Cataloging 101 to Identification and Avoidance of Rabbit Holes 101" (added by wizzyrea_laptop at 08:17 PM, March 10, 2010) |
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drojf |
bug 6874 is epic |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , File upload in MARC |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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mtompset |
Question: which is a better problem? duplicate card numbers or skipped card numbers? |
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drojf |
"This patch is a *followup* to the previous patch" is a great patch description |
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drojf |
hi mtompset |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9826 - Missing fields in MARC21 authority framework <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f26bdcca89220b6bf> |
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mtompset |
Greetings, drojf. Long time no greet! :) |
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drojf |
i don't think you would want duplicate card numbers in any case. but maybe that's just me |
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mtompset: skipped. |
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mtompset |
Okay, because that seems to be the worst case scenario for the patch I'm working on. I'm just running the idea through thought experiments right now. Code will materialize. |
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mtompset |
(that being skipped) |
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mtompset |
but that would require a secondary process stopping for seconds while another one runs. |
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And I think that is very unlikely. |
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mveron |
hi #koha |
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hi mveron |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 34.0°C (5:00 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009 hPa (Falling). |
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mveron |
hi kf :-) |
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mveron |
@wunder Basel |
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mveron: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Mulhouse FR, Basel, Switzerland is 33.9°C (4:37 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
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mtompset |
Greetings, mveron. :) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, kf. :) |
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mveron |
hi mtompset :-) |
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kf |
mveron: close :) |
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mveron |
Yeah, it's hot. But I do not complain... |
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mveron |
kf: Did you see the question about "Sonderkategorien für Notenbibliotheken" on the German list? |
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kf |
yes I did |
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* tcohen |
suddenly loves bootstrap and how the search forms look @koha using it ;-) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, tcohen. :) |
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kf |
bootstrap++ |
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kf |
tcohen++ |
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kf |
tcohen: working on more autocompletes? |
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pastebot |
"mveron" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "For KF regarding German List" (32 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/70 |
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jcamins |
I didn't like Bootstrap autocomplete. |
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jcamins |
I switched to Twitter autocomplete and haven't looked back once. |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
i thought bootstrap and twitter were related? |
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jcamins |
kf: they are. Twitter realized that the autocomplete they wrote for Bootstrap wasn't good enough and forked it into a separate project. |
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mveron |
Kannst du mal das paste anschauen, ob das vernüfntig klingt... |
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mveron |
http://paste.koha-community.org/70 |
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kf |
;) |
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kf |
wrong window? :) |
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jcamins |
So there's Twitter Bootstrap's autocomplete, and there's Twitter Autocomplete. |
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mveron |
kf: yes... |
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tcohen |
no kf, bug 10471 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10471 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Global search input box and button geometry not always consistent (browsers, translations) |
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tcohen |
my first work got stuck when I faced more complex forms |
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vfernandes |
anyone already did an update from 3.0 to 3.10? |
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kf |
no 3.0 installations around here |
15:35 |
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kf |
so not going to have to... andglad :) |
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vfernandes |
I've already done updates from 3.2 to 3.8 and everything worked fine |
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vfernandes |
from 3.0 i've never done |
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tcohen |
vfernandes: we did 3.0.x to 3.8.x |
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vfernandes |
and everything worked fine tcohen? |
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tcohen |
yes vfernandez |
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tcohen |
the upgrade raised several warnings regarding tables already present and such |
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vfernandes |
nice :) so to 3.10 should be smooth too... I hope so :P |
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tcohen |
they where not fatal |
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vfernandes |
this is a complicated migration... a client has a koha 2.2, I've already done the update to 3.0 |
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tcohen |
it should work vfernandes |
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tcohen |
my relation with koha starts at 3.0beta2 |
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tcohen |
so I nkow nothing about 2.x |
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vfernandes |
tcohen++ |
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vfernandes |
:) |
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pianohacker |
tcohen: You're a lucky man. Koha 2.2 was frustrating to deal with |
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tcohen |
i know i'm a lucky guy pianohacker, its my 33th birthday, and i'm being paid to work on FOSS |
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jcamins |
Happy birthday! |
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tcohen |
heh |
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tcohen |
thanks jcamins |
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pianohacker |
tcohen: That's awesome |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen++ # another year! |
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jcamins |
rambutan: do you know anything about how barcode prefixes are assigned to libraries in MO? |
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tcohen |
jcamins: http://snag.gy/njnk2.jpg |
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* jcamins |
likes it! |
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tcohen |
I wasn't sure about removing the labels |
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tcohen |
ISSN: <input> |
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gaetan_B |
bye ! |
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jcamins |
Oh, bother. |
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jcamins |
I should have asked Gaetan which university he was visiting. |
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pianohacker |
tcohen: Placeholders are awesome |
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pianohacker |
You using the placeholder attribute? |
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vfernandes |
guys, I'm having a problem with opensuse and apache |
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vfernandes |
Access forbidden: client denied by server configuration: /srv/www/htdocs/ |
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jcamins |
Sounds like a misconfiguration. Maybe permissions? I don't use opensuse. |
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mveron |
bye bye #koha |
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vfernandes |
I've linked koha-httpd.conf to /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/ |
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vfernandes |
then added a listen 8080 to listen.conf |
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vfernandes |
changed koha-httpd.conf |
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jcamins |
vfernandes: maybe you have to disable the default site? |
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jcamins |
I don't know, though, sorry. |
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pianohacker |
does anyone know of any unimarc/normarc public Z39.50 targets? |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: cat installer/data/mysql/fr-FR/2-Optionel/z3950_BNF.sql |
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pianohacker |
ah! good idea |
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pianohacker |
hopefully some of them work |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
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jcamins |
I think they do. |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: and installer/data/mysql/nb-NO/2-Valgfritt/z3950servers.sql for NORMARC, I think. |
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pianohacker |
which means part 2 is writing equivalents of etc/pazpar2/marc21-work-groups.xsl for unimarc and normarc |
16:46 |
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pianohacker |
thanks for your help |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9728: XISBN unit test update <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]515742ab0f4bebbe1> |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 33.3°C (6:45 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
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kf |
*sigh* |
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kf |
bug 10490 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10490 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Overdue fines cap (amount) in circulation rules rounds |
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kf |
bug 10490 |
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* mtompset |
whistles Happy Birthday while looking at tcohen. ;) |
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cait |
oh is it? |
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cait |
Alles Gute zum Geburtstag tcohen! :) |
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jcamins |
@wunder 11375 |
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huginn |
jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 23.9°C (2:06 PM EDT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling). |
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jcamins |
Well thank goodness for that. |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 31.4°C (8:10 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
getting wind |
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cait |
wonder if we will get a thunderstorm |
18:12 |
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cait |
and the temperature has dropped a bit hm |
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nengard |
@wunder 19030 |
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huginn |
nengard: The current temperature in JAT Observatory, Fairless Hills, Pennsylvania is 21.3°C (2:03 PM EDT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising). |
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nengard |
we already had a thunderstorm ... so i guess now it's just light rain |
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cait |
oh i hear thunder! |
18:19 |
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cait |
we really had a super hot day, it will be nice to get some rain |
18:20 |
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drojf |
cait: probably just drums, accompanying the returning sun :P |
18:20 |
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cait |
drojf: meany :) |
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* gmcharlt |
both hands out a foot-gun, and recommends against using it |
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mtompset |
How did you figure out the numbers, jcamins and nengard? |
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cait |
i wish i would get that, but my brain is still overheating |
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nengard |
what numbers? |
18:25 |
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nengard |
that we use for weather? |
18:25 |
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nengard |
those are our postal codes |
18:25 |
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pianohacker |
that's a reaaaaally big foot-gun gmcharlt |
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mtompset |
@wunder L7E 5Y5 |
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huginn |
mtompset: The current temperature in Schomberg, Ontario is 25.2°C (2:26 PM EDT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling). |
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mtompset |
Okay, cool. |
18:26 |
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nengard |
:) |
18:26 |
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pianohacker |
@wunder 80401 |
18:26 |
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huginn |
pianohacker: The current temperature in Off Trail Travel, Golden, Colorado is 20.9°C (12:24 PM MDT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Falling). |
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nengard |
Off Trail Travel? |
18:26 |
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pianohacker |
I have no earthly idea |
18:26 |
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nengard |
that can't be a town name |
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nengard |
hehe |
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nengard |
oh look ... mine is JAT Observatory |
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pianohacker |
Some travel agency with a weather station on the roof? |
18:27 |
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nengard |
that's new |
18:27 |
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nengard |
it used to just say the town |
18:27 |
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pianohacker |
plus 49% humidity in colorado, good _lord_ |
18:27 |
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nengard |
49 is AWESOME |
18:27 |
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nengard |
we have 87% |
18:27 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 27.7°C (8:25 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
18:27 |
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pianohacker |
dips down to 20% in Trinidad, CO where my parents used to live :P |
18:27 |
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cait |
hm still dropping |
18:27 |
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pianohacker |
that will suck the blood from your very veins |
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pianohacker |
@wunder 81082 |
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huginn |
pianohacker: The current temperature in Near Trinidad State Junior College, Trinidad, Colorado is 23.9°C (12:28 PM MDT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
18:34 |
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nengard |
jquery help - how do i hide the Home link on the OPAC: |
18:34 |
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nengard |
$('#breadcrumbs a[title='home']').hide(); |
18:34 |
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nengard |
that doesn't work |
18:36 |
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pianohacker |
nengard: change that to $('#breadcrumbs a[title="Home"]').hide(); |
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wahanui |
pianohacker: that doesn't look right |
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mtompset |
87% is horrible. |
18:36 |
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pianohacker |
woah what? |
18:37 |
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nengard |
bingo ... quotes and capitalization :) |
18:37 |
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pianohacker |
nengard: uhhh, accidental bot-murder aside, you have to have different kinds of quotes for the inside and outside, so JS doesn't get confused |
18:37 |
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pianohacker |
yeah |
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mtompset |
$'""' |
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nengard |
i agree mtompset |
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* mtompset |
frowns, "How to generalize the bot murder?" |
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mtompset |
That's like the Philippines. |
18:39 |
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pianohacker |
That's what I'm wondering, what did I do? |
18:39 |
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pianohacker |
wahanui: change that to $() |
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wahanui |
pianohacker: that doesn't look right |
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pianohacker |
does it do interpolation or something? |
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pianohacker |
dolla dolla bills are $ |
18:46 |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: it's "change." |
18:47 |
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nengard |
change |
18:51 |
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jcamins |
change something |
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wahanui |
jcamins: that doesn't look right |
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nengard |
hehe |
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gmcharlt |
wahanui: change your state of being |
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wahanui |
gmcharlt: that doesn't look right |
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gmcharlt |
heh |
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mtompset |
hope and change? |
19:13 |
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mtompset |
Welcome back, tcohen. |
19:13 |
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mtompset |
hope and change |
19:13 |
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mtompset |
change |
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* mtompset |
frowns, "Everyone else gets a bot kill, but me?" |
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mtompset |
hope and change something |
19:14 |
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mtompset |
obama? |
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tcohen |
hi mtompset |
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tcohen |
got home earlier to prepare for family party |
19:15 |
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mtompset |
Everybody! Happy Birthday to you... |
19:15 |
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mtompset |
Happy Birthday, dear tcohen... |
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cait |
tcohen: nice! |
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cait |
Alles Gute zum Geburtstag :) |
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mtompset |
wahanui: change your state of being? |
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wahanui |
mtompset: that doesn't look right |
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mtompset |
It's just not fulfilling when you have to replicate someone elses trigger. :( |
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tcohen |
thanks mtompset cait |
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mtompset |
Ilang taon ba? How old are you? ;) |
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tcohen |
tcohen? |
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wahanui |
you are, like, 122 |
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cait |
heh :) |
19:19 |
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tcohen |
actually, 33 |
19:19 |
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cait |
btw i was wishing you a happy birthday ;) |
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mtompset |
That should be 132. :P |
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mtompset |
So it is a nice multiple. :) |
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bgkriegel |
Happy birthday tcohen :-) |
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tcohen |
yeah, damm 2-digit base10 representation |
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tcohen |
thanks bgkriegel |
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mtompset |
112 is you want base 5. :P |
19:24 |
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mtompset |
I mean 114. |
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tcohen |
heh |
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mtompset |
I mean 113... my math is bad. |
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edveal |
jcamins might you be able to help me with an xslt if statement? |
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edveal |
I am trying to customize the xslt style sheet to not display the Availability line if Online Access is present. |
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cait |
edveal: what do you want to check for? |
19:29 |
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cait |
856? anything additional? |
19:29 |
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edveal |
Yes |
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cait |
what have you tried? |
19:30 |
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edveal |
Not much yet. LOL |
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cait |
well you could take a look at how the detail page checks for existence of tags |
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edveal |
The xslt already checks for it and if it is there it displays content. What I want it to do is then NOT display the "Availability" line. |
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edveal |
So I guess I need to write an additional check in the Availability code to say if this is not present then display this... |
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cait |
yeah if you copy the condition that should work |
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jcamins |
edveal: you can just use a regular if statement. No need for a choose. |
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edveal |
Right that is what I just concluded... |
19:36 |
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edveal |
thanks I will write and test… :) |
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pianohacker |
hahahahahaha |
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pianohacker |
I _just_ put in an xslt:param |
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pianohacker |
to disable availability display |
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pianohacker |
edveal: I retroactively love you |
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mtompset |
Why pianohacker? Why not zx81hacker? or RaspberryPiHacker? |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: interesting choice. Why a param? |
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pianohacker |
jcamins: Ability to disable the display completely for external targets, where it doesn't make sense |
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pianohacker |
mtompset: Long story with my old piano teacher, said it looked like I was at a computer keyboard when I was playing piano. Still don't know what exactly he meant by that |
19:48 |
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mtompset |
Ah, so you do (or at least did) play piano. ;) |
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pianohacker |
Yup! Still do, wonderful way to relax |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: to clarify, I was wondering why you chose to use a param rather than e.g. the absence of something-that-identifies-a-record-that-might-contain-holdings (to allow for availability display with remote targets that might support availability). |
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jcamins |
(there is nothing wrong with using a param, of course) |
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pianohacker |
jcamins: Weeeeell, simplicity, for the most part :) Most of the intended targts don't support items, especially not in our glommed-on XML format, but it seems to me that you would still want to display an "Availability: nada señor" line in the catalog |
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pianohacker |
I'm reusing the stock XSLT, so I had to make some modifications |
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pianohacker |
Including an shim for xsl:import in godforsaken Webkit, that was fun |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: oh, yeah, that bugs me. |
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pianohacker |
which part? I rambled a bit |
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jcamins |
The xsl:import. |
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pianohacker |
urgh, yeah. It's been an unfixed bug in Webkit for a loooong time |
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rangi |
pianohacker: concert at kohacon? |
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pianohacker |
informal, sure ;) |
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pianohacker |
depends on finding a piano that people won't yell at you for playing |
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pianohacker |
^ a lot harder than you think! |
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rangi |
heh true |
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pianohacker |
at kohacon09, I found a piano hidden in a back room of the conference center after some wheedling, actually :) |
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rangi |
i think we might be able to get the hotel to let us use one |
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rangi |
if we all pile into one of the bars and take it over :) |
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pianohacker |
just don't let them know that librarians are coming |
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rangi |
heh |
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cait |
:) |
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rangi |
id still like to do the communal cooking thing if possible too |
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rangi |
that might be a lot harder to organise |
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rangi |
ok better take these kids to school |
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cait |
communal cooking...mmh |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
i am just always a bit careful when posting links - dunno why :) |
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cait |
i think there is a bug somewhere for some problems with mariadb |
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cait |
would probably be good if some devs would run from it... try to find more. not really an idea how to do it hm. |
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gmcharlt |
cait: that's a good idea |
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gmcharlt |
I will do exactly that |
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cait |
i think jcamins tried to? *nudges him* |
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jcamins |
MariaDB + Plack has an issue where nothing can be deleted successfully. |
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jcamins |
It's an issue. |
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jcamins |
I have not used MySQL on my dev machine in a long time. |
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cait |
ah there he is :) |
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jcamins |
Actually, it's not the deleting. That'll work. |
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jcamins |
What fails catastrophically is moving things into old_* tables. |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: how much playing around have you doing with sql_mode? |
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gmcharlt |
*have you done |
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jcamins |
None. |
20:43 |
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jcamins |
I'm not even sure what that is. |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: https://kb.askmonty.org/en/sql_mode/ |
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gmcharlt |
upshot is that it's entirely possible that default packages of MariaDB may use a stricter sql_mode setting than default packages of MySQL |
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jcamins |
Both are empty. |
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gmcharlt |
now in the long run, I think we *want* to be stricter |
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jcamins |
Agreed. |
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gmcharlt |
but in the short term, setting the session sql_mode when Koha opens a database connection may suffice for enough backwards compatibility to make the transition as painless as possible |
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jcamins |
If you don't have DEBUG turned on, the issues aren't visible. |
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cait |
mbalmer did some work on identifying mysqlisms |
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cait |
we didn't agree on the solution |
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cait |
but might also be a place to start looking for problemsß |
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cait |
? |
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cait |
not sure how much mariadb supports of that |
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cait |
it's on the wiki |
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jcamins |
cait: I'm pretty sure none of the problems he identified would get in the way of using MariaDB. |
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cait |
even better :) |
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jcamins |
And, of course, the proposed solution was unspeakably dreadful. |
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* cait |
forgets about it then |
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gmcharlt |
right, backwards-compatibiity is one of MariDB's design points |
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cait |
i didn#t even dare to mention it ;) |
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bag |
afternoon all |
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tcohen |
is it possible to know what commit was a patch built against? |
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tcohen |
bd7e36c563c35cba6a1f35971d31187226f3fabb |
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tcohen |
sorry, this one http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ment.cgi?id=17558 |
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wizzyrea |
look at the parent? |
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jcamins |
tcohen: you could check when files matched were current. |
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tcohen |
i need to rebase those patches |
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jcamins |
tcohen: if you're on the same repo, you could do `git show bd7e36c563c35cba6a1f35971d31187226f3fabb^` |
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tcohen |
oh, the ^ |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: hey, do you know who I'd e-mail at NEKLS to ask about how barcode prefixes are assigned in Kansas? Or, even better, do you know how barcode prefixes are assigned? |
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tcohen |
thanks jcamins |
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tcohen |
If I rebase the stopwords removal patches, should I remove the signed-off status too? |
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tcohen |
conflicts were trivial |
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tcohen |
(absent files that don't need to be deleted again) |
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tcohen |
(and the obvious updatedatabase.pl) |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea++ |
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cjh |
wizzyrea++ thanks for that :) |
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wizzyrea |
:D yw |
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cait |
tcohen: should be ok if it was only conflicts and no other changes |
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pianohacker |
Quick question on bug 10320 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10320 enhancement, P4, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , Show results from library's OverDrive collection in OPAC search |
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mtompset |
Have a great day (24 hour period), everyone. |
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pianohacker |
Have another patch soon incoming that I developed on some of the same code. It ruffle any feathers if I just leave it dependent on the patch for 10320? |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: that's fairly normal. |
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pianohacker |
Cool. Also, what can I do to help 10320 get pushed? |
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pianohacker |
If the answer is "wait", that's fine :) |
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jcamins |
Probably wait, but I didn't look. |
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jcamins |
Reduce the QA queue so that non-ByWaterian members of the QA team have cycles free to look at it? |
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pianohacker |
Hah! I think I might be doing that at some point this summer, actually, but it depends on other plans :) |
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eythian |
hi |
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bag |
hi eythian |
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cait |
hi eythian :) |
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rangi |
bug 8798 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8798 enhancement, P3, ---, elliott, Signed Off , Add the use of DBIx::Class |
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rangi |
if someone could eyeball the last patch on there, that i just added |
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rangi |
that would be great |
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pianohacker |
bye all |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: http://mashable.com/2013/06/17[…]ngest-book-chain/ <-- did you get to see this? |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: no -- Marlene didn't find out about it until after the fact |
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jcamins |
Awww. |
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jcamins |
Pretty amazing. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10332: further improvements to course reserves tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]155e8b82bcaeaa68f> / Bug 10332: Data could exist in the courses table. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f54ac5cd08cac90f8> / Bug 10332: CourseReserves.t needs to create its own data <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha |
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dcook |
morning #koha |
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rangi |
hi dcook |
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dcook |
hey ya rangi |
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dcook |
Hotel has in fact been booked :) |
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jcamins |
Yay! |
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jcamins |
I booked the hotel a few weekends ago. |
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rangi |
sweet |
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dcook |
Wise move. I probably should've booked it a while ago, but we just had to sort out who was paying what and when. |
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dcook |
Now all that's left is to make the presentation.. |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
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jcamins |
Pffft. No problem. |
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dcook |
hehe. It shouldn't be too bad. Just lots to do between now and October. |
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* jcamins |
impatiently waits for his wife to get back from picking up the CSA veggies so that he can make the saag paneer. |
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dcook |
Ooo |
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dcook |
CSA? |
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jcamins |
Community Supported Agriculture. |
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dcook |
Right, I forgot about that.. |
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dcook |
Mmm. Saag paneer would be tasty. |
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jcamins |
We're getting cilantro, escarole, purple kohlrabi, romaine lettuce, scallions, baby arugula, and red beets. |
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dcook |
There's a little shop down the road from my house that makes delicious saag aloo. |
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jcamins |
dcook: bet you could get more spinach and potatoes if you bought them uncooked. :P |
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jcamins |
I have to figure out what to do with the cilantro. |
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dcook |
jcamins: I think that's always the case ;) |
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dcook |
Hmm...I think we use cilantro quite a bit |
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dcook |
Although we call it coriander down here |
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dcook |
And arugula is rocket/rockette/roquette |
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dcook |
Took me a while to figure that last one out |
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jcamins |
It's rocket here, too. |
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dcook |
Whoa...really? |
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jcamins |
Yeah, I only started hearing arugula in the last few years. |
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dcook |
Huh... |
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gmcharlt |
and I've never heard anything but arugula ... :) |
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gmcharlt |
"rocket" is a new one on me |
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eythian |
I've never heard of arugula. |
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eythian |
Have heard of rocket though :) |