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| 01:22 |
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mtj |
wizzyrea , about? |
| 01:24 |
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wizzyrea |
wuddup |
| 01:24 |
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mtj |
we should swap the problematic mibbit link on the support page, for this one |
| 01:25 |
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mtj |
http://webchat.oftc.net/?channels=koha |
| 01:25 |
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wizzyrea |
yep |
| 01:25 |
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mtj |
fwiw, i just tried the mibbit link and got a banned error, too |
| 01:26 |
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mtj |
cool ^^ |
| 01:26 |
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wizzyrea |
there is some kind of drama going on there |
| 01:28 |
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wizzyrea |
shouldn't need the mibbit greeter anymore :) |
| 01:28 |
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mtj |
ahem ;) |
| 01:28 |
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mtj |
oops, amen |
| 01:28 |
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wizzyrea |
can you detect when people are coming in from a particular domain? |
| 01:29 |
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wizzyrea |
I suppose you could have it greet everybody that isn't on the IRC regulars list ;) |
| 01:29 |
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wizzyrea |
everybody who joins, that is |
| 01:29 |
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mtj |
hmm, looks like you can... |
| 01:29 |
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mtj |
test1_ has userhost ~oftc-webi 121-73-232-162.broadband.telstraclear.net and realname OFTC WebIRC Client |
| 01:30 |
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eythian |
wahanui: caps lock is CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL |
| 01:30 |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
| 01:31 |
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mtj |
my secret reason for the mibbit greeter was to encourage people to choose a proper username |
| 01:32 |
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eythian |
I think it never worked |
| 01:32 |
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mtj |
it ws really a mibbit nagger |
| 01:32 |
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mtj |
yep |
| 01:32 |
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jcamins |
I never saw anyone change their nick. |
| 01:32 |
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eythian |
wahanui: caps lock is also <reply>bash: LS: command not found |
| 01:32 |
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wahanui |
okay, eythian. |
| 01:33 |
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dcook |
I may have seen o ne or two people change their nick, but that might be wishful thinking on my part |
| 01:35 |
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mtj |
i would be thrilled to say goodbye to both mibbit and the mibbit greeter :) |
| 01:36 |
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| 01:36 |
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cjh |
welcome bcak tcohen |
| 01:36 |
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cjh |
where bcak is back... close enough. |
| 01:36 |
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tcohen |
hi cjh |
| 01:36 |
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* wizzyrea |
saw people change their nick |
| 01:36 |
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tcohen |
just finished watching latest how met your mother's episode |
| 01:37 |
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tcohen |
and passing by |
| 01:37 |
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trea |
caps lock |
| 01:37 |
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wahanui |
bash: LS: command not found |
| 01:37 |
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trea |
heh |
| 01:38 |
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mtj |
tho, in mibbit's defense - it may well be possible to turn off mibbit's auto-nick feature |
| 01:39 |
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wizzyrea |
yea I think it is |
| 01:39 |
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jcamins |
The problem was never with the mibbit service. |
| 01:39 |
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wizzyrea |
i think my reasoning was |
| 01:39 |
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wizzyrea |
to make it as easy as possible for people to just hop in here and talk |
| 01:39 |
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mtj |
…so, that may have been our fault, for leaving that on |
| 01:40 |
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mtj |
yeah, a fair call liz :) |
| 01:40 |
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jcamins |
I was never bothered by the nick. |
| 01:40 |
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jcamins |
The questions, on the other hand... |
| 01:40 |
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wizzyrea |
I figured, I think, that if they really intended to stay around, they'd choose a nick eventually |
| 01:40 |
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jcamins |
Not that all mibbiters asked painful questions, nor that non-mibbiters don't occasionally ask painful questions. |
| 01:40 |
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wizzyrea |
if it was a drive by mibbiting, oh well. |
| 01:44 |
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mtj |
i guess you cant stop people asking stupid questions… |
| 01:44 |
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mtj |
you can just hope to identify them better :) |
| 01:55 |
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wizzyrea |
anyway, that's fixed. |
| 01:59 |
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mtj |
wooo, thanks wizzyrea++ |
| 02:01 |
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jcamins |
rangi: what's the best way to get old release notes, in your opinion? |
| 02:01 |
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rangi |
hm? |
| 02:01 |
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rangi |
pre when we were sticking them in the repo? |
| 02:01 |
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jcamins |
I think it would be helpful to have release notes for previous stable releases. |
| 02:02 |
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jcamins |
We have 3.0.* and then just the 3.x.0 release notes. |
| 02:02 |
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rangi |
they'll be in the mailing list archives |
| 02:02 |
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rangi |
someone could hunt them down and commit them |
| 02:02 |
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rangi |
would be good |
| 02:03 |
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jcamins |
Ah, let me clarify the question: I have two proposals for doing this, and I want to know which one is better. |
| 02:03 |
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rangi |
we must know some librarians who could do that :) |
| 02:03 |
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jcamins |
Option one: figure out git grep, retrieve all commits that touch misc/release_notes/*, cherry-pick to master. |
| 02:03 |
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rangi |
right |
| 02:03 |
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jcamins |
Option two: copy all newer release notes out of misc/release_notes on each branch, commit them en masse. |
| 02:04 |
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rangi |
option 3 |
| 02:04 |
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rangi |
put them all in kohadocs repo |
| 02:04 |
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wizzyrea |
^ |
| 02:04 |
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jcamins |
Ooh. |
| 02:04 |
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jcamins |
I like that option better. |
| 02:04 |
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jcamins |
A lot better. |
| 02:04 |
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jcamins |
That is a nice option. |
| 02:05 |
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rangi |
yep, just as long as we dont get in the way of the manual |
| 02:05 |
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rangi |
but i think a release_notes dir |
| 02:05 |
|
rangi |
would be fine |
| 02:05 |
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rangi |
then if ppl wanted they could do |
| 02:05 |
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rangi |
en/ fr/ es/ |
| 02:05 |
|
rangi |
etc |
| 02:18 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Update 3.12 release notes for Koha 3.12.0-rc2 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]50cf4a9da00587017> / Language update for 3.12-RC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a1338a5257d6f0fb7> / Merge branch 'bug_10030' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a6d044d0754950b55 |
| 02:19 |
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jcamins |
Building RC2. |
| 02:24 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #34 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 02:31 |
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mtompset |
Have a good day. :) |
| 03:02 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.12.x build #34: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/34/ |
| 03:02 |
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jenkins_koha |
* D Ruth Bavousett: Language update for 3.12-RC |
| 03:02 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Kyle M Hall: Bug 10030 - MaxFines checks against amount, not amount outstanding |
| 03:02 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10030: QA Followup for trivial false warning detected while testing |
| 03:02 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jared Camins-Esakov: Update 3.12 release notes for Koha 3.12.0-rc2 |
| 03:02 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10030 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , MaxFines checks against amount, not amount outstanding |
| 03:03 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1175 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1164 9 days 13 hr ago) |
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| 03:16 |
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eythian |
wahanui: welcome is <reply>Welcome to zombo.com |
| 03:16 |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
| 03:16 |
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* cjh |
keeps waiting |
| 03:18 |
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trea |
anything? anything at all? |
| 03:18 |
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eythian |
the only limitation is yourself, at zombo.com |
| 03:18 |
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trea |
i knew it. |
| 03:18 |
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trea |
tv |
| 03:18 |
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trea |
tv? |
| 03:18 |
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trea |
bah |
| 03:18 |
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wizzyrea |
wahanui: tv? |
| 03:18 |
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wahanui |
no idea, wizzyrea |
| 03:19 |
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wizzyrea |
aw |
| 03:19 |
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eythian |
are you losing an argument with yourself? |
| 03:19 |
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wizzyrea |
yea. |
| 03:19 |
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wizzyrea |
clearly |
| 03:19 |
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trea |
could be |
| 03:19 |
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cjh |
if you are losing an argument with yourself, at least you are also winning. |
| 03:20 |
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* wizzyrea |
blinks at zombo.com |
| 03:20 |
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cjh |
wizzyrea: it is worth the wait. |
| 03:20 |
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wizzyrea |
uhhuh |
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* ibeardslee |
waits |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1175: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 13 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1175/ |
| 04:16 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Kyle M Hall: Bug 10030 - MaxFines checks against amount, not amount outstanding |
| 04:16 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10030: QA Followup for trivial false warning detected while testing |
| 04:16 |
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jenkins_koha |
* D Ruth Bavousett: Language update for 3.12-RC |
| 04:16 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10030 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , MaxFines checks against amount, not amount outstanding |
| 04:16 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jared Camins-Esakov: Update 3.12 release notes for Koha 3.12.0-rc2 |
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* magnuse |
waves |
| 06:29 |
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magnuse |
jcamins++ druthb++ for rc2 |
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reiveune |
hello |
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marcelr |
hello #koha |
| 06:43 |
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magnuse |
bonjour! |
| 06:43 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
| 06:43 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 13.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on May 16, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:43 |
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magnuse |
woohoo! |
| 06:43 |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 13.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on May 16, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:43 |
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magnuse |
hah! |
| 06:46 |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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christophe_c |
hello #koha |
| 06:53 |
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magnuse |
bonjour christophe_c |
| 06:53 |
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marcelr |
hi christophe_c |
| 06:53 |
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christophe_c |
bonjour magnuse ;-) |
| 06:53 |
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marcelr |
hi magnuse |
| 06:54 |
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christophe_c |
hello marcelr |
| 06:54 |
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magnuse |
hiya marcelr |
| 07:05 |
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rangi |
evening |
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huginn |
GERMS!!!! |
| 07:06 |
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wahanui |
Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
| 07:07 |
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kf |
wahanui botsnack cookie |
| 07:07 |
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wahanui |
thanks kf :) |
| 07:12 |
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magnuse |
hi rangi and kf |
| 07:13 |
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alex_a |
hello |
| 07:13 |
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wahanui |
hey, alex_a |
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rangi |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-_x5pJe5Og |
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* magnuse |
imagins that everyone on #koha followed rangi's link and is now bouncing around on youtube :-) |
| 09:31 |
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kf |
:) |
| 09:42 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0°C (11:20 AM CEST on May 16, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
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jcamins |
What should I make for breakfast? |
| 10:58 |
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magnuse |
pizza! |
| 10:59 |
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jcamins |
Ummm... |
| 10:59 |
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jcamins |
probably not. |
| 11:00 |
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magnuse |
awww... |
| 11:00 |
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jcamins |
Myshkin has grabbed my sweater and pulled me down to nearly bent in half. |
| 11:01 |
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jcamins |
Apparently he really wants his ears scratched right now. |
| 11:02 |
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magnuse |
better prioritize that ocer breakfast then |
| 11:07 |
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kf_away |
croissant? |
| 11:07 |
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jcamins |
kf_away: yes, I'll just throw one together quickly... :P |
| 11:12 |
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* magnuse |
wishes there was a way to make real croissants quickly ;-) |
| 11:12 |
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magnuse |
or pain au chocolate |
| 11:12 |
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jcamins |
magnuse: me too! If there were, I could have one for breakfast! |
| 11:12 |
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jcamins |
Mmmm. |
| 11:13 |
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magnuse |
hm, is it really "pain"? |
| 11:13 |
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jcamins |
In more ways than one! :P |
| 11:13 |
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magnuse |
yup |
| 11:13 |
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* magnuse |
does not find pain au chocolate painful... ;-) |
| 11:13 |
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jcamins |
Not when eating. |
| 11:13 |
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magnuse |
oh the bakeries in marseille... |
| 11:14 |
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jcamins |
When making, on the other hand... |
| 11:15 |
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slef |
depends how many razor blades are put in it |
| 11:16 |
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slef |
jcamins: do you get Jus-Rol over there? |
| 11:17 |
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jcamins |
slef: I don't think so. Never heard of it. |
| 11:17 |
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jcamins |
It's based in Berwick-upon-Tweed! |
| 11:17 |
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slef |
yeah, but licensing spreads stuff everywhere |
| 11:18 |
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jcamins |
Sure, but I've visited Berwick-upon-Tweed. Exciting! |
| 11:18 |
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slef |
http://www.jusrol.co.uk/Produc[…]aspx?ProductId=33 |
| 11:18 |
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jcamins |
Heh. I'd never be able to convince myself to use that. |
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slef |
I wouldn't bother with most of the pastry, but the pain au chocolate and the croissants are worth it, unless you like getting up earlier to do it properly. |
| 11:19 |
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jcamins |
Which I do not. |
| 11:20 |
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slef |
Is there any way to do the first steps of a dough overnight and then chill it? I've yet to find one that works well. |
| 11:21 |
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slef |
Anyway, I looked in because I'm trying to remember how to see if one string is in another in SQL :) |
| 11:21 |
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slef |
Not to discuss morning goods! |
| 11:21 |
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magnuse |
#koha - the food channel :-) |
| 11:21 |
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marcelr |
you have to eat :) |
| 11:22 |
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jcamins |
There is, so long as you want want to make an artisan-style bread. Folded pastries like croissants are more problematic, I think. |
| 11:22 |
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jcamins |
slef: LOCATE('York', 'New York') |
| 11:22 |
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slef |
arrrrrrrrrgh it has just reminded me I've forgotten to start the bread baking for lunch though :) As soon as I've done this, I'll go sort that out |
| 11:22 |
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slef |
LOCATE! Doesn't involve STR at all! |
| 11:23 |
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slef |
thanks jcamins |
| 11:23 |
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slef |
jcamins: now you see, I thought they were pastries, but Jus-Rol label it "Dough" :-/ |
| 11:26 |
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jcamins |
Alas, I have no fruit. |
| 11:30 |
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slef |
@quote add <jcamins> Alas, I have no fruit. |
| 11:30 |
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huginn |
slef: The operation succeeded. Quote #249 added. |
| 11:30 |
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* slef |
gets 0 lines from this report, goes to read the wiki again :-/ |
| 11:36 |
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jcamins |
I do have blueberry jam, though. |
| 11:54 |
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* magnuse |
just got "artisan bread in 5 minutes a day" in the mail |
| 11:54 |
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jcamins |
:) |
| 11:54 |
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jcamins |
Maybe I should do that for tomorrow. |
| 11:55 |
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kf_away |
jcamins: did you see msaby's comment? |
| 11:55 |
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magnuse |
i'm a little worried that the next book by the same people is called *healthy* bread in 5 minutes a day... ;-) |
| 11:55 |
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jcamins |
kf_away: now I did. |
| 11:57 |
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jcamins |
magnuse: hehe. |
| 11:57 |
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jcamins |
That's referring to the "healthy" craze in the US, not the actual healthfulness of the bread. |
| 11:57 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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magnuse |
maybe they got hit by the low carb wave or something |
| 12:00 |
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slef |
Do we have an easy way to spot unused authority headings? |
| 12:00 |
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slef |
depends how many razor blades are put in it |
| 12:01 |
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magnuse |
isn't there a syspref that decides if unused headings are displayed or not? |
| 12:01 |
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magnuse |
must be some logic connected to that |
| 12:01 |
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* slef |
looks |
| 12:01 |
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slef |
OPACShowUnusedAuthorities |
| 12:03 |
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slef |
my @usedauths = grep { $_->{used} > 0 } @$results; |
| 12:03 |
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slef |
where... |
| 12:03 |
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slef |
my ( $results, $total, @fields ) = SearchAuthorities( \@marclist, \@and_or, \@excluding, \@operator, \@value, $startfrom * $resultsperpage, $resultsperpage, $authtypecode, $orderby ); |
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slef |
so this is doable from perl |
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slef |
is uses the zebra index |
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slef |
which may be why trying to do it in a SQL report sucks... thank magnuse |
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* slef |
sends a "here's a perl script" reply |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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jcamins |
That would definitely make doing it via SQL problematic. |
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slef |
I love it when library catalogues contain stuff like this "Lovenheim, Peter. 2024, Portrait of a burger as a young calf :, c2002" |
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jcamins |
lol |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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slef |
hi Doctor oleonard! |
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kf_away |
what did we miss? :) |
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oleonard |
If I was given an honorary doctorate I must have missed the ceremony. |
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tcohen |
morning #koha |
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tcohen |
jcamins: arond? |
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tcohen |
s/o/ou/ |
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jcamins |
I am. |
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tcohen |
as you noted in that koha-* bug, i didn't notice I changed the semantics of several koha-* commands |
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tcohen |
basically, I output to stderr that no instances where specified |
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tcohen |
i'd need to add a check or a redirection to devnull |
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tcohen |
in in a very specific script that is run on install |
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slef |
oleonard: I was usggesting it was fake, like doctor Nick in the Simpsons |
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* oleonard |
deflates |
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* kf_away |
feels for 27point7 |
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kf_away |
can we help him somehow? |
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kf_away |
he is talking about bug 7593 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7593 major, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , merging bib records loses connection to order line |
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jcamins |
I can't. |
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jcamins |
If you know data is missing you can post it on the bug. |
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kf_away |
no idea what jenkins has as data |
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jcamins |
All the sample data, and nothing else. |
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kf_away |
I think we should try and make this available somewhere at some pint |
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kf_away |
i think it has some items |
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kf_away |
and records, but not totally sure |
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jcamins |
Yes, all the sample data. |
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jcamins |
Including the bibliographic data. |
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kf_away |
there is no bibiographic official sample data |
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magnuse |
there are some records associated with tests |
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jcamins |
Last time I ran an install I was very surprised to be asked if I wanted to install bibliographic records. |
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magnuse |
huh? |
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jcamins |
In addition to the usual options, there was an option to install sample bib records. |
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jcamins |
I presume it was added during 3.10 and I wasn't paying attention, because I certainly didn't push it. |
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jcamins |
Anyway, anyone is welcome to document things however they like, so long as further questions are directed toward someone not me. |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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* magnuse |
can't see any sample records in installer/data/mysql/en/ |
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kf_away |
jcamins: there is no such options |
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kf_away |
sorry to say that |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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jcamins |
I wonder why I was offered one. |
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jcamins |
Must've been a patch I failed. |
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kf_away |
hm maybe only en? |
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jcamins |
If you want a copy of an out-of-date Jenkins database, it is available at kohadev.cpbibliography.com/jenkinsdb.sql.bz2 for a few days more. |
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kf_away |
hm don't find any on master |
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* jcamins |
shrugs. Must've been something I was testing at some point. |
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jcamins |
Wow. Over a thousand patches in 3.12. |
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magnuse |
yay |
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jcamins |
Not counting merges. |
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tcohen |
OMG |
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tcohen |
that's a lot of human labour! |
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kf_away |
it is :) |
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tcohen |
jcamins: do I remove the check or add one in koha-common.init? |
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kf_away |
koha is awesome :) |
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magnuse |
it is :-) |
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jcamins |
tcohen: it's up to you. I don't have a strong opinion either way. |
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tcohen |
ack jcamins |
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magnuse |
there are test records at least in t/db_dependent/www/data/ and t/db_dependent/Record/testrecords/ |
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jcamins |
magnuse: yeah, but those are for unit tests. |
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magnuse |
the first one has one each for marc21 and unimarc, there are more in the second dir |
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jcamins |
I don't doubt that those are the ones on Jenkins, though I never looked at the second to see what they are. |
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jcamins |
I *do* doubt. |
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magnuse |
this was mostly in reply to kf saying "there is no bibiographic official sample data" :-) |
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jcamins |
I shouldn't have revised my statement from "I don't think" to "I doubt." It just results in confusion. |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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oleonard |
Hey, you know who's a string-safe patch that still needs signoff? Bug 9773 is a string-safe patch that still needs signoff! |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9773 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace YUI AJAX calls in cataloging plugins with jQuery |
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jcamins |
You know what other string-safe patches still could do with sign offs? |
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jcamins |
Bug 9452 and bug 10230. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9452 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , C4::Letters does not function under Plack |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10230 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Match points do not work with authorities |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #190: "<jcamins> Hehe. Guillotine: the revolutionary card game you win by getting a head <asaurat> lol <asaurat> I mean mdr" (added by slef at 03:46 PM, February 28, 2012) |
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Viktor |
Having a sort of embarrassing problem - can't seem to get Kyles virtual appliance to work in Virtual box? |
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kf_away |
Viktor: sorry - have never used it |
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kf_away |
khall around? |
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khall |
what's up? |
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kf_away |
oh that worked fast :D |
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kf_away |
Viktor has a problem with the virtual appliance and I thought noone would know better than you :) |
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khall |
heh ; ) |
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Viktor |
Wow :) |
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khall |
what's the issue? Is it a networking problem? |
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Viktor |
khall Yes. Did not get any IP address. |
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Viktor |
Tried some different networking settings in virtualbox |
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khall |
did you try the option in the Koha shell menu that's supposed to fix it? |
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khall |
it's an issue with Debian, |
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Viktor |
But can't seem to find the hotwos that I think used to be on your site back in 2009 or so :) |
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Viktor |
Yes I did. |
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Viktor |
Just |
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Viktor |
Just tried some random stuff from the webb but no real help there. |
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Viktor |
sudo sh -c ?cat /dev/null > /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules? |
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khall |
yeah, that's the one |
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Viktor |
Tried it and powered the machine off and booted. Still nothing :/ |
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khall |
if you run '/sbin/ifconfig' do you see eth0? |
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Viktor |
Yes I do. |
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Viktor |
(and it's bridged to WiFi in virtualbox) |
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khall |
ok, that's good and bad. It means it's not a problem with the virtual appliance, but with your virtualbox configuration. That bad is that I probably can't help you any further. |
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khall |
Have you tried setting it to NAT instead? |
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jcamins |
Viktor: are you trying to access it from the same computer you're running VirtualBox on? |
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Viktor |
My college tried NAT yesterday on his computer and got an IP but no response when accessing it on the host computer. |
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khall |
that makes sense, |
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Viktor |
I tried NAT before executing the command stated above - nothing. Might be worth a new shot. |
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khall |
NAT will only let the VM access the outside world, not visa versa |
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Viktor |
Do you know anything on what issues I should research? |
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khall |
so, for that config, you need a NATed network interface, and a local network interface |
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Viktor |
I see. |
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khall |
that is, a Host-Only Adapter |
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jcamins |
You can also forward ports with NATed network interfaces, though I always use NAT + Host-Only Adapter. |
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khall |
so you will have two virtual networking interfaces, one lets the VM access the outside world, and the other let's the host machine access the VM |
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Viktor |
Hm. Setting up stuff like that is a bit outside my area of expertise :) |
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jcamins |
Not for long! :D |
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Viktor |
Guess I'll fool around a bit further with the settings in VirtualBox. |
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Viktor |
jcamins :) |
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khall |
I understand. Just go into the VirtualBox network configuration, and enable adapter 1 as NAT, and adapter 2 as Host-only Adapter. Then boot it up and run /sbin/ifconfig. You should see eth0 and eth1 |
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khall |
type the ip of eth1 into a web browser on your host machine and you should be good to go |
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Viktor |
Hm. Wont let me save that config "invalid settings detected" |
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Viktor |
If i disable all network interfaces it says "non-optimal settings detected" but won't help me identify what the non-optimal ones are. |
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Viktor |
Fresh install of VirtualBox on a new machine and the virtual appliance with no changes. |
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jcamins |
Viktor: if you go through each tab, it will tell you what settings are invalid. |
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Viktor |
jcamins - I think so too. But I see nothing. Just the red ! at the bottom with "Non-optimal settings detected". Nothing lights up in any of the tabs and the text can't be clicked. Clicking the question mark produces the manual but no context. |
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tcohen |
jcamins: bug 10259 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10259 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , koha-*-zebra scripts are expected to run without warnings if no instance name passed |
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jcamins |
Odd. On my system it will tell me "not enough RAM/duplicate MAC/etc." |
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jcamins |
tcohen: thanks! |
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Viktor |
jcamins - It's happier now with the non-optimal stuff since I pulled up the amount of video memory. But that shouldn't help with the networking I think... |
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jcamins |
Viktor: no, but it will make it stop complaining, anyway. |
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jcamins |
:) |
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Viktor |
Lol yeah :) |
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tcohen |
@later tell rangi you forgot to mention tagging |
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huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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tcohen |
jcamins, do release maintainers need a gpg key? |
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jcamins |
tcohen: yes. |
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jcamins |
You have to sign your tags, tarballs, and potentially packages. |
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tcohen |
great |
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pianohacker |
mornin' |
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* oleonard |
welcomes pianohacker back to the ole salt mines |
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Viktor |
Thanks for the help people! The best I managed was to get 10.0.2.15 but not being able to connect to it. I'll fool around some more but have to run now. |
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kf_away |
morning pianohacker |
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kf_away |
hm wondering, does this column name still make sense with hourly loans? Fine grace period (day) |
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* druthb |
waves at kf_away, who is clearly kf_not_away |
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kf_away |
oh yeah |
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pianohacker |
hi druthb, kf |
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kf |
i was |
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druthb |
hi, pianohacker! :D |
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kf |
The 'Fine Grace Period' is the period of time an item can be overdue before you start charging fines. Important: This can only be set for the Day unit, not in Hours < so it probably is sitll right |
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jcamins |
kf: right, it's still days-only. |
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kf |
all libraries want to have different fines for each notice level :( |
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kf |
it's driving me crazy to tell them 'no you can't do that' |
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kf |
*sigh* |
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slef |
but they can... just tell them the estimated price of adding it... puts most libraries off "nah, it's not that important" |
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jcamins |
^^ works every time |
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kf |
heh |
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reiveune |
bye |
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oleonard |
That's why Koha doesn't have NCIP support (and we've never missed it) |
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Dyrcona |
kf: You could always migrate to Evergreen.... ;) |
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* oleonard |
stones Dyrcona for heresy |
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* druthb |
hands oleonard more rocks. |
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Dyrcona |
Help, help! I'm being repressed! :p |
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* Dyrcona |
gets in trouble in #evergreen for suggesting new people also look at Koha before deciding on an ILS. |
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* oleonard |
switches to smaller rocks |
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Dyrcona |
:) |
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kf |
oleonard: aren't smaller rocks meaner actually? |
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kf |
.) |
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oleonard |
Geez, everyone complained when I threw peanut M&Ms too. I can't win! |
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kf |
Dyrcona: I think my head can only store all the config options for one ILS |
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kf |
limited memory up there :) |
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oleonard |
Last week someone added a new system pref to Koha and it made me forget how to use a microwave. |
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kf |
lol |
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* kf |
does neither have a microwave nor a tv... |
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kf |
and now I am leaving :) |
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kf |
bye all |
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kf |
and Dyrcona++ for getting in trouble in #evergreen :) |
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oleonard |
Never do I hate Windows more than when I'm searching for a file. |
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tcohen |
best feed reader? |
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pianohacker |
feedly atm |
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oleonard |
The one that suits your needs and doesn't rely on Google Reader. |
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tcohen |
i need one i can tag feeds, like "this goes for 3.12" |
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pianohacker |
yeah, and the latter knocks out about half of them unfortunately |
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pianohacker |
tag feeds or posts? |
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pianohacker |
what do you use, oleonard |
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oleonard |
I think Tiny Tiny RSS is the best FOSS option at the moment |
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oleonard |
I've tried it, but it |
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oleonard |
was pretty clunky |
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* gmcharlt |
likes TT-RSS |
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gmcharlt |
and it's now getting some quick updates because of the attention |
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pianohacker |
tt-rss does sound like quality, though the hearsay is that the devs are a bit grouchy |
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oleonard |
I've been using Fever because I wanted something self-hosted, although it isn't free: http://feedafever.com/ |
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jcamins |
I like TT-RSS. |
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tcohen |
i want to set my rmaint toolbox |
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oleonard |
I also like Fever because there's a nice app for iOS which works well with it. |
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* oleonard |
is full of heresy today, Dyrcona should gather some stones. |
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* maximep |
likes what a colleague at work is doing https://github.com/fcapovilla/caporss |
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pianohacker |
iOS heresy? |
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oleonard |
non-free |
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* jcamins |
shakes his head dolefull. For shame for shame. |
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pianohacker |
okay. can't do much about non-free, but iOS use in this channel is punishable by snide comments about Swype |
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tcohen |
swype++ |
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jcamins |
*dolefully |
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jcamins |
s/shame for/shame, for/ |
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oleonard |
s/head/distinguished melon |
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rangi |
rss2email + procmail is what i use |
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rangi |
tcohen: you dont tag until you release, wasnt planning to cover that until its closer to time for you do a release |
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tcohen |
great rangi |
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jcamins |
That reminds me. I remembered in the middle of the night I forgot to push the tags for the RCs. |
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jcamins |
... and I don't see them at all. |
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jcamins |
Hmm. |
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* jcamins |
creates new ones, pushes them. |
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tcohen |
rangi, you run r2e from a cronjob? |
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rangi |
yep |
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oleonard |
rangi: I submitted a couple of 3.10.x versions of patches that didn't apply, but I wasn't sure if they needed new signoffs. I recreated them from scratch so they don't have the original signoffs on them. |
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oleonard |
Was there a more correct way of handling that? |
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rangi |
thats the new rmaints problem :) or at least i wont be pushing them before the 3.10.6 release |
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rangi |
nope thats the right way |
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oleonard |
Should they get new signoffs? |
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rangi |
depends on how complex they are |
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rangi |
basically thats a judgement call from the rmaint |
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pianohacker |
Is Koha::Cache intended as a replacement for C4::Context->memcached? |
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lavamind |
hello |
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wahanui |
hi, lavamind |
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rangi |
!jenkins build koha_master now |
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jenkins_koha |
rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now |
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rangi |
pianohacker: yes |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1176 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1164 10 days ago) |
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lavamind |
I run about 150 Koha instances on a server for teaching (every student has an instance), but the zebra_rebuild processes weight heavily on the server, but now I just dicovered this : http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6566 (Checking if DB records are properly indexed) |
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huginn |
Bug 6566: enhancement, P3, ---, christophe.croullebois, Pushed to Master , Checking if DB records are properly indexed |
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lavamind |
can I use this script to re-index *only when needed* ? |
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rangi |
it should only index when needed anyway |
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rangi |
ie, it does incremental indexing |
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rangi |
you are using the debian packages right? |
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lavamind |
rangi: yes, and reindexing through a cronjob |
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tcohen |
lavamind: you need to use koha-index-daemon from Koha::Contrib::Tamil |
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pianohacker |
rangi: Okay. It seems like the only way to use the cache robustly is to use Koha::Cache->is_cache_active, but that depends on the CACHING_SYSTEM env variable being set, which is not mentioned anywhere outside of Koha/Cache.pm. Am I missing something? |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: you are not. |
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jcamins |
is_cache_active is my least-favorite part of the caching system. |
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jcamins |
And, for the record, not my idea. |
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pianohacker |
Has memcached been made de-facto-required? |
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jcamins |
Nope. |
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jcamins |
Completely optional. |
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tcohen |
because the process spawn for every call to rebuild_zebra will make the server load go high |
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tcohen |
memcached is not supported by the default install method (packages) |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: is_cache_active is used to check whether you should even try to use the cache. |
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pianohacker |
That's what I figured; which makes the choices kind of crappy |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: what are you trying to do? |
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pianohacker |
RightR |
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rangi |
lavamind: hmm you have your own cron job, not just using the one that comes set up wih the packages? |
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lavamind |
rangi, tcohen: I'm using the default cronjob : test -x /usr/sbin/koha-rebuild-zebra && koha-rebuild-zebra $(koha-list --enabled) |
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rangi |
tcohen: yes i use memcached with packages, you just edit config, same as with tarball |
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pianohacker |
sorry about that, irc had a hiccup |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: in that case, you might not have seen me ask what you were trying to do. |
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lavamind |
I had to set it to */15 instead of */5 because it was killing the server |
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pianohacker |
jcamins: caching of oauth token for a search API |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: ah-ha. |
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tcohen |
tarball install provides you a way of getting it work out-of-the-box |
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tcohen |
check bug 8773 lavamind |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup |
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rangi |
lavamind: the problem is it has to connect to the db to check to see if it needs to index |
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pianohacker |
The choices seem to be either use context->memcached, which is the old way but won't break, or try to use Koha/Cache.pm and be ready to catch an error with eval{} if ($@) |
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tcohen |
you might tweak the koha-common init script the same way those patches do |
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rangi |
tcohen: only for one single instance, otherwise its busted and 2 instances use the same cache namespace |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: don't use context->memcached. |
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tcohen |
and use koha-index-daemon |
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tcohen |
heh |
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tcohen |
I use the instance name as namespace |
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tcohen |
was for rangi) |
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rangi |
tcohen: for the tarball |
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rangi |
you said it can set it up |
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jcamins |
If you use that directly, you're ruling out any alternative caching systems. |
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rangi |
i say it does it wrong if you have 2 installs |
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tcohen |
rangi: the tarball asks for a namespaec |
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pianohacker |
jcamins: That's my understanding, so I'll just use a "try-catch" |
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lavamind |
tcohen: yes, Koha::Contrib::Tamil sounds like exactly what I need |
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jcamins |
That's the best bet. |
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tcohen |
we have a pre-packages setup with 38 instances |
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tcohen |
we use koha_<instance> as namespace |
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tcohen |
and use koha-index-daemon for the reindexing |
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tcohen |
10 sec interval |
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rangi |
how do you upgrade? 38 make upgrades? |
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tcohen |
before i got here (and moved everyone to git) we deployed stuff using SVN |
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tcohen |
right now we continue to do it like that |
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rangi |
eeeeeew |
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tcohen |
i do a standard install in /usr/share/koha_xxx |
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tcohen |
and put that on SVN |
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tcohen |
then the upgrade scripts fix every koha_xxx for the right instance name |
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lavamind |
I use a Puppet class over here |
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pianohacker |
Is it a horrible Perl practice to return undef from a constructor if things went pear-shaped? That would be a handy modification to Koha::Cache->new |
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rangi |
i use a apt-get update |
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rangi |
and apt-get install koha-common |
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rangi |
done :) |
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lavamind |
when I upgrade I ensure => absent all instance |
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tcohen |
we are moving to packages with 3.12 |
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rangi |
cool |
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tcohen |
but, will be building our own until 8773 is included |
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rangi |
the problem with that is |
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tcohen |
(or something that replaces it of course) |
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rangi |
it makes koha dependent on moose |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: that's a good question. I don't see why. |
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jcamins |
I mean, I don't see why that's bad. |
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tcohen |
yes rangi, that's why that patch got the lines commented |
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rangi |
yep |
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rangi |
so what someone needs to do, is package Koha::Contrib::Tamil |
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rangi |
and all its dependencies |
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tcohen |
eythian did that already |
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rangi |
its not clean |
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rangi |
it fights with the moose needed for solr |
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tcohen |
oh c'mon, so we have moose already ? :-D |
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rangi |
no |
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rangi |
its an optional thing, just like this would have to be |
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rangi |
because moose while great for programming in |
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lavamind |
tcohen: I'm running 3.8.6, references to koha-*-indexer are absent from the initscript, can I just add them in ? |
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rangi |
is slow as hell |
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jcamins |
Not to mention, you need different versions. |
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rangi |
and that |
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tcohen |
of course lavamind, but make sure Puppet fixes stuff when you upgrade |
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lavamind |
un, I just apt-get installed libkoha-contrib-tamil-perl |
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rangi |
i wonder if we could do it with mouse |
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rangi |
maybe tchohen and I will fix that at hackfest :) |
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jcamins |
rangi: I liked mouse better than moose anyway. |
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lavamind |
tcohen: yep good call |
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rangi |
its a zillion times faster |
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jcamins |
That's why I liked it. |
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jcamins |
Other than that, they both seem to over-promise. |
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tcohen |
i have (the first) appointment with the US embassy @ Buenos Aires by May 28 |
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rangi |
excellent |
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rangi |
yeah |
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rangi |
http://search.cpan.org/~noirin[…]1.2/lib/perl5i.pm |
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rangi |
hehe |
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rangi |
but it would be nice to get that 8773 as a recommends, that conflicts with the solr stuff |
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pianohacker |
tcohen: Appointment with the US embassy? |
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rangi |
so if you wanted it it's there, but acknowledge the fact you cant use it an solr together .. currently |
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jcamins |
For a visa! |
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tcohen |
i had to pay for the visa and choose a date to go to buenos aires |
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tcohen |
its two consecutive days |
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tcohen |
(2 interviews) |
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pianohacker |
oh, cool. irritating that it's that much work though |
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tcohen |
i'll take a day to visit my family there, not big deal |
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rangi |
right now im really leaving :) |
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tcohen |
pianohacker: did I mention the two meetings in cordoba? |
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tcohen |
lavamind: how living with Puppet is? |
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tcohen |
is it difficult to deploy/maintain? |
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pianohacker |
tcohen: no, don't think so |
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tcohen |
our production guys are a bit reluctant to implement it |
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tcohen |
(at least they are trying openstack for our datacenter) |
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pianohacker |
jcamins: Come to think of it, the module isn't robust in general; the tied scalars/hashes require an existing $cache, which can't happen unless caching is enabled |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: error-checking is always welcome. |
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jcamins |
However, as far as I am aware, it works perfectly with caching disabled. |
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jcamins |
There is simply no caching. |
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jcamins |
I had hoped that some of the people who were pushing Plack would build on that to make Koha's codebase generally Plack-compatible, but in hindsight that was mostly just a time-consuming way for me to learn about variable tying. |
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lavamind |
tcohen: I couldn't do my job without Puppet, it's a life saver |
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pianohacker |
jcamins: really? I could be doing something wrong, but it seems like if Cache::Memcached::Fast is installed, new() will always try to load and use it, regardless of whether it's set up |
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lavamind |
tcohen: one thing I love about Puppet is that it's like documenting your setup at the same time |
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pianohacker |
constructing tied variables using Koha::Cache->create_scalar, per the original patch notes, fails with a "can't use string as ref" error |
| 20:24 |
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lavamind |
and no it wasn't difficult to set up, everything is packaged in Debian including backports |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: I can't say I particularly recall now, but it will not _use_ the cache unless caching is enabled. |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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jcamins |
Guess a patch is needed, then. |
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lavamind |
tcohen: can I find the koha-*-indexer scripts somewhere other than the diff files ? |
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pianohacker |
okay, thanks. Just trying to figure out if I was misunderstanding, or whether there was a bug |
| 20:25 |
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pianohacker |
as it's the former more often than the latter some days :) |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: it could be either, but I'd suspect the latter. In the intervening months I have reviewed about 700 patches. |
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jcamins |
(so I simply don't remember) |
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tcohen |
lavamind: let me put them somewhere, i see the patch doesn't apply anymore |
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pianohacker |
Your name's in the author field, you're supposed to have a perfect memory of what it is and how it works |
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jcamins |
lol |
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jcamins |
Also, a point about Koha::Cache versus Koha::Cache::Object... the latter is mostly to simplify the painful job of making Plack + memcached not disastrous. There is no reason not to use Koha::Cache directly for cache access, if you're designing around the idea of caching from the start. |
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pianohacker |
makes sense |
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jcamins |
Indeed, using Koha::Cache directly is more efficient. |
| 20:30 |
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jcamins |
Tying variables is expensive. |
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jcamins |
It's just less expensive than a cron job that restart Plack every five minutes. |
| 20:30 |
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pianohacker |
hah! True that |
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pianohacker |
How does the koha-with-persistence work go, anyway? That was just starting when I left last time |
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jcamins |
And insignificant next to the amount of time it takes Apache to start. |
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tcohen |
lavamind: es.koha-community.org/koha-indexer-scripts.tar.gz |
| 20:31 |
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tcohen |
http://es.koha-community.org/k[…]er-scripts.tar.gz |
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jcamins |
Koha's OPAC works mostly with Plack. |
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jcamins |
I run into problems with the staff client under Plack daily, or at least weekly. |
| 20:32 |
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pianohacker |
makes sense, much more complicated code |
| 20:32 |
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jcamins |
Unfortunately, we announced complete compatibility for 3.10. |
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pianohacker |
... oh |
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tcohen |
can you get it lavamind ? |
| 20:33 |
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jcamins |
On the plus side, Plack on the staff client works way better than it used to. |
| 20:34 |
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lavamind |
tcohen: yes, thank you, I'm reviewing the scripts carefully :) |
| 20:35 |
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lavamind |
tcohen: our usernames have the format koha_username, is that a problem ? |
| 20:36 |
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lavamind |
actually nevermind, the system users are username-koha |
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tcohen |
are u using packages? |
| 20:36 |
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lavamind |
yes |
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tcohen |
ok ok |
| 20:36 |
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lavamind |
I was confusing the logins... it's been a while since I haven't touched the Koha stuff |
| 20:36 |
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lavamind |
since I have* |
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tcohen |
we could use this one instead of the moose-dependent code from tamil http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ment.cgi?id=17790 |
| 20:38 |
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lavamind |
oh boy, will this work ? it'll spawn 111 daemons :p |
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tcohen |
and build a new indexer daemon |
| 20:38 |
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tcohen |
it will lavamind |
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tcohen |
:-P |
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tcohen |
lavamind: you could try runnning that for one instance for testing? |
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lavamind |
yes, about to. |
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lavamind |
tcohen: 20130516 16:43:16 prof-koha-indexer: client (pid 3661) exited with 2 status |
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tcohen |
koha-indexer-daemon-output.log? |
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lavamind |
Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC ..... |
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lavamind |
seems like deja-vu ... |
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tcohen |
if you prepend "export " to the KOHA_CONF definition? |
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tcohen |
(on koha-start-indexer) |
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tcohen |
bbl, sorry |
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jenkins_koha |
Yippie, build fixed! |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1176: FIXED in 1 hr 11 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1176/ |
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pianohacker |
maximep: caporss looks quite interesting; do you have any screenshots or anything similar? |
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rangi |
back |
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pianohacker |
augh, the issues-rules table has exploded in the past two years |
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wizzyrea |
heh yea |
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* pianohacker |
gets an itch to do crazy things to the admin interface again |
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cait |
pianohacker: sounds like an excellent idea to me :) |
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maximep |
pianohacker: I can ask him to add a few to github. It basically looks like greader, but with bootstrap |
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pianohacker |
maximep: That's pretty clear, actually |
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pianohacker |
greader with better color choice and border-radius, essentially? |
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maximep |
basically :p |
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pianohacker |
awesome :) |
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maximep |
he has 0 design/html/css skills, so really default bootstrap |
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pianohacker |
^^ use case of bootstrap |
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pianohacker |
plus laziness/lack of time, but mainly that |
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eythian |
rangi, trea: you remembered it's whisky o'clock this evening? |
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* trea |
points to the bottle of balvenie behind him. |
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pianohacker |
? |
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wizzyrea |
"dudes drinking whisky" |
| 22:18 |
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wizzyrea |
and possibly some chicks. |
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wizzyrea |
at a specified o'clock |
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pianohacker |
self-explanatory enough, then :) Any particular reason? |
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eythian |
because friday |
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trea |
because....reasons |
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pianohacker |
oh, right, international date line |
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pianohacker |
timezones-- |
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cait |
timezones++ |
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cait |
lol |
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cait |
timezones-- timezones-- |
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cait |
i typoed |
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pianohacker |
My favorite timezones moment was trying to schedule something with people in the US, France and India |
| 22:21 |
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pianohacker |
and the cute little "optimum meeting scheduler" showed all three 8-hour workdays right next to each other, with absolutely no overlap |
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eythian |
wahanui: new zealand is <reply>http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4[…]ng-in-new-zealand |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
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pianohacker |
very much a "somebody's going to drink a lot of coffee that day" moment |
| 22:25 |
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pianohacker |
okay, what is going on in #24 and how is it legal |
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cjh |
"suits $20 not stolen" cant get much better. |
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rangi |
how else do you expect students to shift house pianohacker |
| 22:26 |
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cjh |
pianohacker: well it isnt overhanging the front of his vehicle... |
| 22:26 |
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pianohacker |
Is that a full-size refrigerator? Good lord |
| 22:26 |
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rangi |
it is |
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cjh |
although I am not sure about the visibility concerns. |
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rangi |
and a lawn mower on the roof |
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eythian |
nah, you'd be able to see out the driver's window |
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bag |
it's a baby zebra!!! |
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talljoy |
bre |
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talljoy |
oops. my bad. |
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rangi |
i didnt even know this existed |
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rangi |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]a3/duplicates.cgi |
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wizzyrea |
oooo |
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eythian |
oh nifty |
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* jcamins |
curses Time Warner. |
| 23:41 |
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jcamins |
They have found a new and creative way to drive me nuts. |
| 23:42 |
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jcamins |
They poisoned Google's DNS. |
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eythian |
oh? |
| 23:42 |
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jcamins |
Well, Google's records in their DNS. |
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wizzyrea |
O.O |
| 23:42 |
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jcamins |
The DNS records are actually valid, but about 1 in 10 connection attempts succeeds. |
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eythian |
change your DNS to another provider? |
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wahanui |
eythian: that doesn't look right |
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jcamins |
eythian: yep, did that. |
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eythian |
wahanui: sorry, but it is. |
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wahanui |
eythian: huh? |
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eythian |
jcamins: and are they still being weird? |
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jcamins |
It's better, though not perfect. |
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wizzyrea |
have you checked the twitterz for other reports of such nonsense |
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jcamins |
And as soon as I said that, it went screwy. |
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jcamins |
I have not. Good idea. |
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wizzyrea |
"turning off google DNS fixed my internet" from 5 hours ago |
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jcamins |
Yeah, I was noticing that. |
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jcamins |
So... |
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jcamins |
Google's DNS is at fault, and Time Warner is using it? |
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wizzyrea |
perhaps the problem has recurred. |
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jcamins |
Bahahahahaha!!!!! |
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jcamins |
Nah, it was a problem this morning, too. |
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jcamins |
(so I'm thinking it is not a reoccurrence so much as still going on) |
