| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:01 |
|
jcamins |
Wow. |
| 00:01 |
|
jcamins |
238 patches pushed this month. |
| 00:01 |
|
cait |
cool |
| 00:02 |
|
jcamins |
cait: isn't it kind of late? |
| 00:02 |
|
cait |
it is |
| 00:02 |
|
cait |
i was packing |
| 00:02 |
|
jcamins |
That makes this month the third-busiest month in the last twelve. |
| 00:03 |
|
cait |
hm |
| 00:03 |
|
cait |
closer to release date... |
| 00:03 |
|
cait |
makes sense probably? |
| 00:04 |
|
jcamins |
5th busiest month in the last two years. |
| 00:04 |
|
jcamins |
Yup. |
| 00:04 |
|
dcook |
Wow.. |
| 00:05 |
|
dcook |
I wonder what the breakdown for that is |
| 00:05 |
|
dcook |
How many are template changes, module changes, script changes |
| 00:05 |
|
dcook |
Nice to see lots of Owen's changes going through to make the interfaces that much nicer :D |
| 00:05 |
|
jcamins |
I will leave that sort of statistics for someone else. |
| 00:06 |
|
rangi |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]its_by_year/month |
| 00:06 |
|
jcamins |
Hey... I can make it 4th busiest! |
| 00:06 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 00:06 |
|
jcamins |
Cool! Thanks. |
| 00:06 |
|
jcamins |
Odd... |
| 00:06 |
|
rangi |
thats when the patches were authored, not when they were pushed (that one i posted) |
| 00:06 |
|
bag |
rangi usually rans stats |
| 00:06 |
|
jcamins |
Those numbers do not match up with mine... |
| 00:06 |
|
jcamins |
at all. |
| 00:07 |
|
jcamins |
Oh. |
| 00:07 |
|
jcamins |
That would be why. |
| 00:07 |
|
bag |
s/rans/runs |
| 00:07 |
|
bag |
is feeling slow today |
| 00:07 |
|
wizzyrea |
in the past tense even. |
| 00:08 |
|
dcook |
So 2008, 2011, 2012 have been big years |
| 00:08 |
|
dcook |
Well, actually, quite a few, but the biggest |
| 00:08 |
|
wizzyrea |
2009-2010 were mired in conflict and strife. |
| 00:08 |
|
jcamins |
There's a definite upward trend. |
| 00:08 |
|
rangi |
yep 2011 was when we got rid of the deadweight |
| 00:08 |
|
rangi |
end of 2010 |
| 00:08 |
|
wizzyrea |
2008 was 3.0 |
| 00:08 |
|
wizzyrea |
and that was huge |
| 00:09 |
|
dcook |
Mmm, all in the numbers, eh? |
| 00:09 |
|
wizzyrea |
2009-10 were waiting for people to get out of the way |
| 00:10 |
|
wizzyrea |
more or less. |
| 00:10 |
|
dcook |
What happened between 2006-2007? |
| 00:10 |
|
dcook |
BibLibre? |
| 00:10 |
|
wahanui |
hmmm... BibLibre is already doing something like this, so perhaps once this tool is complete, it would provide an easier method of maintaining the service you already provide |
| 00:10 |
|
wizzyrea |
people becoming interested in the idea of an open ILS |
| 00:10 |
|
wizzyrea |
forget biblibre |
| 00:10 |
|
wahanui |
wizzyrea: I forgot biblibre |
| 00:10 |
|
dcook |
wizzyrea: that's really exciting :) |
| 00:11 |
|
wizzyrea |
yea, french adoption I guess |
| 00:11 |
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| 00:11 |
|
wizzyrea |
well where's the gource video |
| 00:11 |
|
wizzyrea |
it shows |
| 00:12 |
|
wizzyrea |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl1a2VN_pec |
| 00:12 |
|
wizzyrea |
10 years of koha is at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl1a2VN_pec |
| 00:12 |
|
wizzyrea |
10 years of koha? |
| 00:12 |
|
wahanui |
10 years of koha is probably at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl1a2VN_pec |
| 00:16 |
|
wizzyrea |
when did koha transition to git? |
| 00:16 |
|
rangi |
2007 |
| 00:16 |
|
wizzyrea |
oh so that's what was happening then :) |
| 00:17 |
|
cait |
:) |
| 00:18 |
|
rangi |
that was about the one and only good thing that came out of my time at liblime |
| 00:19 |
|
jcamins |
You didn't even get any nice t-shirts? |
| 00:19 |
|
rangi |
actually i didnt! |
| 00:19 |
|
* slef |
mumbles something about suggesting git long before that |
| 00:19 |
|
* wizzyrea |
pats slef |
| 00:19 |
|
wizzyrea |
there there |
| 00:19 |
|
wizzyrea |
git wasn't very old in 2008 though |
| 00:20 |
|
slef |
although it wasn't my first suggestion... using arch for 2.0.n>1 wasn't a great move |
| 00:21 |
|
slef |
wizzyrea: it was 3 years old. That's like 21 years old in human years. |
| 00:21 |
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| 00:22 |
|
dcook |
Mmm, so jcamins and ethyian had their first commits in 2010, eh? |
| 00:22 |
|
dcook |
Amazing work since then guys :) |
| 00:22 |
|
dcook |
Everyone really |
| 00:22 |
|
jcamins |
Thanks. |
| 00:22 |
|
jcamins |
Oooh, have I caught up with anyone recently? |
| 00:22 |
|
* dcook |
just finished watching the youtube video |
| 00:23 |
|
eythian |
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Brows[…]aspx?id=567299698 |
| 00:23 |
|
jcamins |
Hm... doesn't seem too likely that I'll be passing hdl. |
| 00:24 |
|
cait |
i think i fell down one |
| 00:25 |
|
jcamins |
cait: yes... that was me. :P |
| 00:25 |
|
cait |
tss |
| 00:25 |
|
cait |
i need to get 19 more commits |
| 00:25 |
|
cait |
before colin does... he is in reach |
| 00:25 |
|
jcamins |
I need to get another 350. :P |
| 00:26 |
|
dcook |
Where are those stats again? |
| 00:26 |
|
jcamins |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ster/authors.html |
| 00:27 |
|
slef |
http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ are the better stats to optimise |
| 00:27 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, I have the dashboard up but some stats seem to be missing |
| 00:27 |
|
cait |
I wanted to catch nicole.. but life interfered |
| 00:28 |
|
jcamins |
slef: true, but I shouldn't be showing well on any of those. |
| 00:28 |
|
slef |
dashboard source? |
| 00:28 |
|
slef |
anyone know where? |
| 00:28 |
|
rangi |
in gitorious |
| 00:28 |
|
dcook |
Nearly 13 million lines of code, rangi? |
| 00:28 |
|
rangi |
dcook: po files |
| 00:28 |
|
wahanui |
po files are outdated |
| 00:28 |
|
dcook |
Mmm |
| 00:28 |
|
slef |
jcamins: shouldn't your name show up on "New features recently pushed" somehow? ;-) |
| 00:29 |
|
slef |
or there should be a last N pushes or something |
| 00:29 |
|
rangi |
https://gitorious.org/koha-dashboard |
| 00:29 |
|
rangi |
i havent pushed to there in a little while so its out of date |
| 00:29 |
|
slef |
dashboard source is https://gitorious.org/koha-dashboard |
| 00:29 |
|
jcamins |
slef: since only one person is ever pushing things at a time, it doesn't really seem necessary. |
| 00:29 |
|
slef |
rangi-- |
| 00:30 |
|
wizzyrea |
! |
| 00:30 |
|
slef |
jcamins: well, can we judge you on the datestamps in that column then? Give you a beer if all five are today? ;-) |
| 00:30 |
|
rangi |
its pushed to my localbackups of course .. or i could just turn the dashboard server off if you would prefer? |
| 00:30 |
|
cait |
noooooo |
| 00:31 |
|
jcamins |
slef: they won't be, because I prioritize bugfixes. |
| 00:31 |
|
jcamins |
Actually, wait... |
| 00:31 |
|
jcamins |
they might be. |
| 00:32 |
|
slef |
jcamins: hmm. "bugfixes recently pushed" would be a nice enh. |
| 00:35 |
|
huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9555' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1314850337ab4e475> / Bug 9555: Template files contain single quote strings <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]89ea09f26cb3b11cf> / Merge branch 'bug_9669' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]itdiff;h=4f0191e1 |
| 00:35 |
|
* dcook |
will have to get on top of pushing up his number from 21 |
| 00:36 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1062 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
| 00:36 |
|
jcamins |
Okay... |
| 00:36 |
|
jcamins |
I am confused. |
| 00:37 |
|
jcamins |
bug 9456 |
| 00:37 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9456 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Add callnumber column to the cart |
| 00:37 |
|
jcamins |
Wasn't the goal improved readability? |
| 00:39 |
|
dcook |
Hmm |
| 00:39 |
|
rangi |
i think it was just being able to sort by callnumber was the original goal |
| 00:39 |
|
jcamins |
Well... it does sort by callnumber. |
| 00:39 |
|
jcamins |
But now you can't tell which library which item is at. |
| 00:39 |
|
rangi |
ahh thats less than useful |
| 00:39 |
|
jcamins |
Yeah. |
| 00:40 |
|
dcook |
jcamins: How's that? |
| 00:40 |
|
jcamins |
dcook: you end up with something that looks like Call number Branch Branch Call number Branch |
| 00:41 |
|
dcook |
Interesting |
| 00:41 |
|
wahanui |
Interesting is probably sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 00:41 |
|
jcamins |
And it's a solid mass of text. |
| 00:42 |
|
dcook |
:S: |
| 00:42 |
|
slef |
Changes submitted for bug 8740 |
| 00:42 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8740 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , Serials Claims should be exportable all at once |
| 00:48 |
|
dcook |
Hmm. Some of these bootstrap changes look rather awful in Chrome.. |
| 00:48 |
|
jcamins |
dcook: really? |
| 00:48 |
|
jcamins |
I like 'em a lot! |
| 00:48 |
|
dcook |
Maybe it's a caching issue then.. |
| 00:49 |
|
jcamins |
I use Chrome on a Mac. |
| 00:49 |
|
wizzyrea |
oh yes definitely nuke your cache |
| 00:49 |
|
wizzyrea |
they always look bad right at first. |
| 00:49 |
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| 00:49 |
|
wizzyrea |
god it's like he knows |
| 00:49 |
|
oleonard |
I sensed a disturbance in the Force... |
| 00:49 |
|
dcook |
jcamins: Looks like it was caching :) |
| 00:49 |
|
dcook |
lol |
| 00:49 |
|
eythian |
it was just the farce, nothing to worry about oleonard |
| 00:49 |
|
dcook |
oleonard++ |
| 00:49 |
|
jcamins |
lol |
| 00:50 |
|
oleonard |
*whew* |
| 00:50 |
|
dcook |
It was weird.. |
| 00:50 |
|
dcook |
I've seen weird caching before but this was different |
| 00:51 |
|
dcook |
oleonard: Yes, before that moment, I've been a huge fan of the Bootstrap additions :) |
| 00:52 |
|
jcamins |
Woohoo! I saved $0.29/lb on lentils today! |
| 00:52 |
|
oleonard |
I was just reading the logs because I didn't know where else to go to find out what to do with an extra half an avacado |
| 00:52 |
|
dcook |
lol |
| 00:52 |
|
jcamins |
oleonard: ... really? |
| 00:53 |
|
oleonard |
No, but that's what I found! :) |
| 00:53 |
|
jcamins |
Oh. |
| 00:54 |
|
jcamins |
Ooh! I can use the splinter code review! |
| 00:55 |
|
wizzyrea |
lolol |
| 00:55 |
|
jcamins |
No I can't. |
| 00:55 |
|
jcamins |
How do I leave a comment? |
| 00:55 |
|
huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_3549' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4c7d45f81b5438292> / Bug 3549 -[Revised]- Framework sorting in addbook <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3433693717f2738dd> |
| 00:55 |
|
rangi |
double click on the line you want to comment on |
| 00:56 |
|
jcamins |
Ah! |
| 00:56 |
|
jcamins |
Cool! |
| 00:56 |
|
jcamins |
Thanks. |
| 00:56 |
|
rangi |
then go back to overview and hit publish |
| 00:56 |
|
rangi |
when you are done |
| 00:56 |
|
rangi |
or only u can see them :) |
| 00:57 |
|
oleonard |
How does it fit into the process? The person who submitted the patch sees that there is a review? |
| 00:59 |
|
jcamins |
Yeah, it gets e-mailed to everyone watching the bug. |
| 00:59 |
|
rangi |
everyone does (who reads the mailing list or is subscribed to the bug) |
| 01:00 |
|
jcamins |
oleonard: why are you online? |
| 01:00 |
|
jcamins |
It seems a bit later than usual for you. |
| 01:00 |
|
oleonard |
I dunno. |
| 01:01 |
|
slef |
wizzyrea++ |
| 01:02 |
|
slef |
@quote add <oleonard> I was just reading the logs because I didn't know where else to go to find out what to do with an extra half an avacado |
| 01:02 |
|
huginn |
slef: The operation succeeded. Quote #234 added. |
| 01:02 |
|
slef |
@quote random |
| 01:02 |
|
jcamins |
Hey... what _does_ the VM Manager do? |
| 01:02 |
|
huginn |
slef: Quote #222: "jcamins: test patches, don't feed trolls." (added by druthb at 07:49 PM, December 07, 2012) |
| 01:02 |
|
slef |
jcamins: manages viral monkeys. What did you think it does? |
| 01:02 |
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wizzyrea |
wait what'd I do? |
| 01:03 |
|
slef |
wizzyrea: took http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9322 to lists |
| 01:03 |
|
huginn |
Bug 9322: major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , If multiple transfers exist (from circ/branchtransfers.pl), completing one completes them all |
| 01:04 |
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wizzyrea |
oh yea, it needed eyes desperately |
| 01:04 |
|
wizzyrea |
needs fixing desperately too |
| 01:04 |
|
wizzyrea |
(do note, it's not catalyst that has been paid to do the work that is hung up by that bug) |
| 01:05 |
|
wizzyrea |
i just know that larger libraries that heavily use transits get things hung up by that bug. |
| 01:05 |
|
wizzyrea |
and it's unpleasant at best to unravel |
| 01:05 |
|
jcamins |
slef: to be honest, I haven't a clue. What VMs? |
| 01:06 |
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| 01:08 |
|
slef |
jcamins: is this about roles for 3.14? |
| 01:08 |
|
jcamins |
slef: yeah. |
| 01:08 |
|
jcamins |
A potential volunteer wants to know what his duties would entail before telling the world he's interested in doing it. |
| 01:08 |
|
slef |
I guess it's keeping the VM image up to date. |
| 01:09 |
|
slef |
as in http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]pment_Environment |
| 01:09 |
|
slef |
Is it a new role? |
| 01:09 |
|
eythian |
I think that wiki page is totally unrelated |
| 01:09 |
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jcamins |
I think so? |
| 01:10 |
|
slef |
it was listed on http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Roles_for_3.12 but unassigned |
| 01:10 |
|
dcook |
There is an existing VM image loaded up with Koha somewhere? |
| 01:10 |
|
dcook |
I suppose the LiveDvd.. |
| 01:10 |
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jcamins |
Oh, I bet it's about the Virtual Appliances that Kyle used to do. |
| 01:10 |
|
jcamins |
That makes sense. |
| 01:13 |
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| 01:14 |
|
rangi |
oh this is interesting |
| 01:14 |
|
rangi |
10151 Galen Charlton |
| 01:14 |
|
rangi |
galen gets blamed for the most lines in C4/ |
| 01:14 |
|
rangi |
:) |
| 01:14 |
|
jcamins |
lol |
| 01:14 |
|
jcamins |
Actually, I'm not surprised. |
| 01:14 |
|
rangi |
3264 Jared Camins-Esakov |
| 01:15 |
|
rangi |
2428 Paul Poulain + 6580 tipaul |
| 01:15 |
|
jcamins |
Ha! Paul is responsible for more than me! |
| 01:15 |
|
jcamins |
How did you do that? |
| 01:15 |
|
rangi |
heh |
| 01:15 |
|
rangi |
its cli madness |
| 01:16 |
|
rangi |
git ls-files C4/ | xargs -n1 -d'\n' -i git blame {} | perl -n -e '/\s\((.*?)\s[0-9]{4}/ && print "$1\n"' | sort -f | uniq -c -w3 | sort -r |
| 01:16 |
|
rangi |
im looking in opac/ now |
| 01:17 |
|
rangi |
fun with git ;) |
| 01:17 |
|
rangi |
1459 Jared Camins-Esakov in Koha/ |
| 01:17 |
|
rangi |
you are the clear winner in there |
| 01:18 |
|
jcamins |
That I will take credit for. :) |
| 01:18 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
| 01:18 |
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jcamins |
rangi: add -n to the end of the sort. |
| 01:19 |
|
rangi |
me looks at the dreaded C4::Search |
| 01:19 |
|
rangi |
yep |
| 01:19 |
|
rangi |
914 Joshua Ferraro |
| 01:21 |
|
rangi |
lars wins for xt |
| 01:21 |
|
bag |
that seems like a phone number 914 kados |
| 01:22 |
|
rangi |
355 Bart Jorgensen in t/ |
| 01:22 |
|
rangi |
thats pretty sweet |
| 01:22 |
|
jcamins |
Nice! |
| 01:22 |
|
rangi |
galen wins in there tho |
| 01:22 |
|
rangi |
7118 Galen Charlton |
| 01:23 |
|
rangi |
ok time to stop pulling up useless stats and go get kahu from school |
| 01:23 |
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wizzyrea |
love that kid. |
| 01:23 |
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wizzyrea |
gl :) |
| 01:24 |
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wizzyrea |
both bart and kahu. |
| 01:24 |
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rangi |
'soren lives in newtown, he will be at the fair eh daddy? He makes me giggle' - kahu this morning |
| 01:25 |
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wizzyrea |
hehe yea are you guys going to come? |
| 01:25 |
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rangi |
thats the plan ill sms you |
| 01:25 |
|
wizzyrea |
"he makes me giggle" that's high praise. |
| 01:25 |
|
wizzyrea |
cool |
| 01:26 |
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oleonard |
Speaking of kids, mine are out of the bath, gotta go |
| 01:26 |
|
wizzyrea |
later |
| 01:26 |
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oleonard |
See y'all in 12 hours :) |
| 01:39 |
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| 01:42 |
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dcook |
Oohhh...Amazon covers are even more insidious than I thought.. |
| 01:44 |
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wizzyrea |
oh do tell |
| 01:44 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1062: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1062/ |
| 01:44 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 9663 - Individual bibliographic record "Save" option requires export permission |
| 01:44 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 5333 - z3950 normalization should apply only on UNIMARC |
| 01:44 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 9669 - Replace YUI buttons on staff client cart toolbar |
| 01:44 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 9555: Template files contain single quote strings |
| 01:44 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9663 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Individual bibliographic record "Save" option requires export permission |
| 01:44 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5333 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Undefined value stops import from z39.50 |
| 01:44 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9669 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on staff client cart toolbar |
| 01:44 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9555 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Template files contain single quote strings |
| 01:46 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1063 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 01:48 |
|
dcook |
wizzyrea: I'm trying to fetch an image from Amazon with a valid ISBN but the Amazon URL doesn't show anything... |
| 01:48 |
|
dcook |
I'm just about to look at the Amazoncover.js |
| 01:48 |
|
dcook |
But it looks like it removes every image element when it has an error and spits out its own "No cover available" |
| 01:49 |
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dcook |
In this case, there is a local image elment that should not be erased but it's getting sucked up in the mess |
| 01:53 |
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dcook |
bug 9737 |
| 01:53 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9737 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Local Covers sometimes appear then disappear on OPAC Search Results/Lists |
| 01:53 |
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wizzyrea |
oh cascading covers has never worked well. |
| 01:54 |
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wizzyrea |
woot! |
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dcook |
:) |
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dcook |
As for the covers, let's see what I can drum up in the next few minutes.. |
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eythian |
wahanui: what is the saddest thing? |
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wahanui |
the saddest thing is probably http://ur1.ca/9x67k |
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eythian |
wahanui: the saddest thing is also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F[…]orecasts_edit.png |
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wahanui |
okay, eythian. |
| 02:06 |
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eythian |
wahanui: the saddest thing is also http://i39.tinypic.com/14jz15f.jpg |
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wahanui |
okay, eythian. |
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eythian |
wahanui: the saddest thing is also http://ur1.ca/cxl9a |
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wahanui |
okay, eythian. |
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jcamins |
eythian: why are we sad about Itanium? |
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eythian |
the forecasts are the saddest thing |
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wizzyrea |
sounds like the ghostly howls of a drowned tuba player. |
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eythian |
wahanui: the most dangerous game |
| 02:15 |
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wahanui |
eythian: what? |
| 02:15 |
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eythian |
wahanui: the most dangerous game is http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=1488 |
| 02:15 |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
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dcook |
:D |
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wizzyrea |
lol. |
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* dcook |
thinks he has a workable solution |
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eythian |
tennis with lit dynamite whilst riding bears. |
| 02:21 |
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eythian |
it's always a solution. |
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* dcook |
is having way too much fun imagining such a scenario |
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dcook |
In this case, the amazon image just needs to be wrapped in a span... |
| 02:26 |
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eythian |
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap130227.html |
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dcook |
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap121023.html |
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dcook |
That's from 50 km north of my hometown :) |
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wizzyrea |
O NOES |
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dcook |
:p |
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dcook |
IN ANY CASE, cool clouds all around |
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jcamins |
You know what I dislike? |
| 02:38 |
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dcook |
What's that? |
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wahanui |
that is in march? |
| 02:38 |
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jcamins |
Binary logical not. |
| 02:38 |
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jcamins |
Not should be a unary operator. |
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eythian |
it is, isn't it? |
| 02:40 |
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jcamins |
Unless you are using PQF, yes. |
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eythian |
I see... |
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jcamins |
If you're using PQF, it's mostly just nuts. |
| 02:41 |
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eythian |
well, really a binary operator should be binary, not unary ;) |
| 02:41 |
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jcamins |
Right, but I maintain that it should not be binary at all. |
| 02:42 |
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eythian |
maybe there's a separate unary not operator. |
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jcamins |
Nope. PQF is just mean like that. |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1063: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1063/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 3549 -[Revised]- Framework sorting in addbook |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3549 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Framework sorting in addbook |
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jcamins |
dcook++ |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1064 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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dcook |
? |
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jcamins |
That bug has been reported a lot, but I've never been able to duplicate it because I use special Javascript on sites that have both local cover images and Amazon cover images. |
| 02:55 |
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dcook |
Mmm |
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dcook |
My patch is actually incomplete. Fixing up a complete one at the moment |
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dcook |
Using special javascript would probably be a better idea, but...this fixes the immediate problem |
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jcamins |
No, the Javascript is for something else entirely. |
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jcamins |
It just so happens that as a side effect it prevents the bug showing up. |
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jcamins |
rangi: do you backport all the Plack fixes to 3.10/3.8? |
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dcook |
Mmm, interesting |
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eythian |
koha packages from master being deployed, based on the new signing keys. |
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dcook |
I assume that JS is the one that I noticed on your dev instance? Seems useful. |
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jcamins |
eythian++ |
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jcamins |
Yeah, but it's not really generally usable at this point. |
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dcook |
Hmm, maybe I'm referring to something different. I just meant that expandable bar you had on the right with all the added info |
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dcook |
In any case, I'll be happy to put this cover image bug to bed |
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dcook |
...so to speak |
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dcook |
Are bed bugs still a hot issue in the US? |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
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jcamins |
In the city, anyway. |
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dcook |
:( |
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libsysguy |
install all the dependencies from cpan |
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jcamins |
That will fix bed bugs? |
| 03:29 |
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libsysguy |
sadly no |
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libsysguy |
but it will fix insomnia |
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jcamins |
Alas. |
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libsysguy |
:p |
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jcamins |
lol |
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libsysguy |
I think I can see light at the end of my force install tunnel |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
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libsysguy |
I am into modules without deps |
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libsysguy |
lol |
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libsysguy |
so if you wanna be my dependency, you gotta be dependencies for my friends |
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* libsysguy |
has been at this too long |
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libsysguy |
and the grand total size for the perl deps for my catalyst app |
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libsysguy |
78M |
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libsysguy |
total catalyst app size 1.9M |
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jenkins_koha |
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jcamins |
Something of an argument in favor of any other framework, I think. |
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* jcamins |
heads to bed. |
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dcook |
OMGWTFBBQ! |
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dcook |
Integrate ElasticSearch as a search engine |
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rangi |
20 points if you do it |
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rangi |
(it's actually not so bad with jcamins search rewrite) |
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dcook |
I thought ElasticSearch only worked with JSON |
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* dcook |
has been meaning to play with it for...a little over a year |
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rangi |
the main advantage is it is schema less |
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rangi |
you pass the schema with the data you want to index |
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rangi |
with elastic search you could make the opac do discovery .. in an actual useful fashion |
| 05:28 |
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rangi |
not being a librarian, im all about making the opac useful, if i never to try to improve staff workflows again ill be happy |
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rangi |
never have to even |
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dcook |
hehe |
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rangi |
i should pitch my talk idea to ALA |
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dcook |
Throughout library school, I always thought about things from the perspective of the end user (as I really enjoyed the Vancouver Public Library) |
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dcook |
But now I have noticed more of a focus on the staff end, since clients are librarians. Interesting.. |
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dcook |
So with ElasticSearch...you pass it the MARCXML and the MARCXML schema, then it indexes everything and outputs it as JSON? |
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rangi |
pretty much |
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rangi |
and then you throw it some dublin core |
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rangi |
and some whatever else |
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dcook |
So that it's outputting meaningful standard-based metadata? |
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dcook |
I still wonder a bit about the concept of discovery though |
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dcook |
What do people want to know? |
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dcook |
I was intrigued by VPL's use of Bibliocommons, but I've usually used the opac for targetted searches rather than discovery.. |
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* dcook |
tends to trawl bookstores and comic shops for that |
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dcook |
I suppose those are two slightly different ideas about discovery though |
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rangi |
yeah |
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rangi |
what the discovery interfaces seem to do |
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rangi |
is try to do some (not federated .. that would be sensible) kinda union search |
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rangi |
over the catalogue and databases |
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dcook |
Mmm |
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dcook |
They seem to also pick out a lot more of the fixed field data than traditional OPACs |
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dcook |
So they give more options for language, audience, media type, etc |
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dcook |
Some of the things that RDA is irrelevantly expanding into other fields.. |
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dcook |
They seemingly do facets well |
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dcook |
Cataloguers seem to hate them though. |
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dcook |
I suppose that goes back to what you were saying before mentioning the talk :p |
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rangi |
:) |
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dcook |
In other news, it looks like I'm going to Reno :). Have to look at flights and what leave I want to take before/after, but yay! |
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rangi |
sweet! |
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dcook |
:D |
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dcook |
Thinking about giving some sort of presentation, but not really sure on what yet. Maybe something for librarians/other newbies. |
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* Oak |
waves |
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dcook |
hi Oak :) |
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dcook |
Morning, cait :) |
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cait |
goodmornig |
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* dcook |
heads off toward the weekend |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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magnuse |
Oak |
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magnuse |
wow, 235 signoffs in february! |
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* cait |
waves |
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Oak |
magnuse |
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Oak |
hello cait |
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cait |
hi Oak :) |
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Oak |
:) |
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magnuse |
hiya Oak and cait |
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reiveune |
hello |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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christophe_c |
hello all |
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magnuse |
bonjour france |
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magnuse |
another french university chooses koha? cool! |
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christophe_c |
hello magnuse |
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magnuse |
bonjour christophe_c |
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cait |
hi christophe_c and magnuse |
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cait |
:) |
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christophe_c |
hi cait |
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samuel |
hi everybody :-) |
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magnuse |
hi samuel |
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magnuse |
hm, why is one of my instances sending DUE messages that lack title and author? ODUE messages have them and other instances running off the same package install has them... |
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magnuse |
koha 3.8 btw |
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cait |
checked your notice templates? |
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magnuse |
yeah, as far as i can tell they are identical between the instance that works and the one that does not |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
and they never worked? |
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magnuse |
nope |
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magnuse |
well, i just enabled them |
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cait |
hmm |
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cait |
can you share your notice tempateß |
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cait |
for due? |
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magnuse |
sure |
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magnuse |
one moment |
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cait |
also did you use the itemscontent parameter on the cronjob? |
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magnuse |
um, not sure |
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magnuse |
but i think the packages run the same script with the same params for all instances |
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cait |
hm yeah would make sense |
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cait |
oh |
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magnuse |
http://paste.koha-community.or[…]community.org/413 |
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magnuse |
http://paste.koha-community.org/413 |
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cait |
is it a library specific template each time? or all libraries? |
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magnuse |
no library specific templates |
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* cait |
ponders |
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cait |
that is DUE not the DGST |
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cait |
I am not using those.... too annoying to get so many emails :) |
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magnuse |
yeah, it's DUE |
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drojf |
good morning #koha |
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cait |
magnuse: running out of ideas :( |
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cait |
did you check the title in question is correct? |
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cait |
@wunder Dortmund |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Dortmund, Germany is 2.0°C (9:50 AM CET on March 01, 2013). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 1.0°C (10:00 AM CET on March 01, 2013). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa (Rising). |
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magnuse |
hm, maybe i found the problem with the DUE messages? they were set up to be sent as the first message in the "Overdue notice/status triggers" settings |
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magnuse |
on the instance that works, only ODUE messages are set there |
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magnuse |
and "Advance notice" is ticked off in the enhanced messaging section for the relevant patron category |
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magnuse |
i'll reproduce that setup and see if it changes anything |
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cait1 |
@wunder st. georgen |
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huginn |
cait1: Error: No such location could be found. |
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cait1 |
yeah, probably too small :) |
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magnuse |
cait1: on a train? |
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cait1 |
heh how did you know? ;) |
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magnuse |
male intuition:-) |
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magnuse |
@karma indexdata |
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huginn |
magnuse: indexdata has neutral karma. |
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magnuse |
how is anyone supposed to know what the usmarc.mar file does when the documentation is limited to one small, vague paragraph? https://www.indexdata.com/zebr[…]tml#grs-mar-files |
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magnuse |
"This file provides rules for representing a record in the ISO2709 format. The rules pertain mostly to the values of the constant-length header of the record." |
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magnuse |
mostly?!? and how are the rules defined? |
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magnuse |
indexdata-- |
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magnuse |
is there a us holiday today or something? |
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jcamins |
Not that I know of. |
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jcamins |
Why? |
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magnuse |
i was just expecting us people to start showing up around now |
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magnuse |
s/us/US/ |
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jcamins |
It's a bit early still. |
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jcamins |
7:20. |
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magnuse |
ah, ok |
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magnuse |
don't know why i am impatient then :-) |
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magnuse |
oh, it's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Pig_Day in the US |
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jcamins |
Huh. Who knew? |
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magnuse |
wikiedia knew :-) |
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* magnuse |
imagines cait zooming in and out of tunnels in the german countryside |
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cait |
ah :) |
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cait |
yeah lots of tunnels on that part of the trip - but past that now :) |
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cait |
more urban area now so I hope internet will be a bit more stable |
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magnuse |
yay |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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slef |
Changes submitted for bug 7167 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 blocker, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , updatedatabase improvements |
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slef |
upgraded it to blocker because it blocks a blocker |
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slef |
IYSWIM |
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Herwig |
Hey koha i'm moving a koha database to a test server now i wanna rebuild zebra with sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f library ... is the word library the database name ? |
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nengard |
slef what is IYSWIM ? |
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oleonard |
IYSWIM? |
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* oleonard |
guesses "If you see what I mean?" |
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slef |
oleonard++ |
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magnuse |
Herwig: library is the name of the instance |
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oleonard |
wahanui: IYSWIM is "If you see what I mean" |
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wahanui |
oleonard: i don't know |
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magnuse |
Herwig: the actual database "inside" mysql will be koha_library or library_koha, i never remember which |
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Herwig |
i have koha_koha-oe |
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magnuse |
Herwig: then you have created an instance called koha-oe? |
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Herwig |
i get sudo: unknown user: koha_koha-oe-koha |
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magnuse |
Herwig: what was the command you gave? |
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Herwig |
koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f koha_koha-oe |
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magnuse |
ah try: |
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magnuse |
koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f koha-oe |
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Herwig |
works |
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magnuse |
if you do koha-list you can see the instances you have |
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magnuse |
the names that koha-list give are the ones you should use in commands |
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Herwig |
i try afther indexing |
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Herwig |
50000 record just a sec ;) |
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slef |
Could we downgrade Bug 9326, then? I don't think 9326 should block release. Also, it appears unnecessarily high in the needs-signoff list and ahead of this bug which it depends upon. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9326 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , New database update system suggests running duplicate updates |
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Herwig |
magnuse ++++++ |
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Herwig |
:) |
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Herwig |
i learn new things everytime i come here :) |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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magnuse |
me too! :-) |
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Herwig |
lol |
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jcamins |
slef: by all means. |
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jcamins |
I hadn't noticed the weird ordering before. |
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slef |
Changes submitted for bug 9326 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9326 new feature, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , New database update system suggests running duplicate updates |
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cait1 |
@quote random |
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huginn |
cait1: Quote #12: "<owen> Every time you check in a book a little video loads and Nancy Pearl recites her capsule review of it." (added by gmcharlt at 06:36 PM, July 06, 2009) |
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* jcamins |
heads into the city. |
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cait1 |
ok... and now I missed him :) |
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oleonard |
jcamins around again yet? |
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jcamins |
Just got in. |
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jcamins |
Well, actually, I've been here about twenty minutes, but I had to fix my client's LAN. |
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jcamins |
... you can't download an old version of Firefox for an old computer? |
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oleonard |
You mean you couldn't find the older version to download? |
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jcamins |
I didn't look yet. |
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jcamins |
But the FF front page says "Your system doesn't meet the requirements for Firefox! Ha!" |
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jcamins |
I generally expect to be told "Your system doesn't meet the requirements for the current version. Please consider $AncientVersion." |
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oleonard |
I seem to recall jumping through hoops to find a 3.6.x version to test on |
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jwagner |
jcamins, yes, there are sites for old versions. See http://www.oldversion.com/wind[…]/mozilla-firefox/ for one |
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jwagner |
also https://support.mozilla.org/en[…]ersion-of-firefox |
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jcamins |
Ah-ha! |
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jcamins |
Thanks! |
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jcamins |
For the record, I still maintain it is poor user experience to not direct the user to 3.6.28 right away. |
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oleonard |
I assume it's because they don't fix security problems in older versions? |
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jcamins |
Well, sure, but people aren't going to go out and buy a new computer just to run Firefox. |
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oleonard |
Heh, in the options for "Firefox no longer works with some versions of Windows XP," they suggest "Download Opera" |
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slef |
Mozilla seem to be losing the plot more and more |
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slef |
I saw someone complaining that Mozilla were refusing to implement new standards until one of ( Opera, Microsoft, Google ) did, but I've not checked that. |
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rambutan |
I have the vague, uncomfortable feeling the FF is becoming more MS-centric. Maybe just me, however, and that's not the case. |
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rambutan |
s/the/that |
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jwagner |
FF used to be a nice slim functional browser. The last several versions it's gotten more and more bloated, and changes functionality for no good reason. |
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rambutan |
That was certainly the case with the old Mozilla suite, but after FF kinda went out on it's own it was better for a while, but now its got feature creep again. |
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jcamins |
Anyway, what can I do for you, oleonard? |
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oleonard |
jcamins: I have a revised patch for Bug 9445. Can I set it back to needs signoff or would you rather it get a new signoff? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9445 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Use DataTables in local use system preferences editor |
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jcamins |
I don't suppose Opera runs on OS X 10.4.11... |
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jcamins |
You can set it to Passed QA. |
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oleonard |
Thanks |
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oleonard |
It's easy to say that FF has feature creep, but what are the features in the creep? It doesn't seem like it's got new bells and whistles |
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* jcamins |
will let you know how Koha works in FF 3.6.28. |
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oleonard |
although I have to say I haven't been much interested in looking at FF's new developer tools, being accustomed to Firebug |
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oleonard |
I tested the new Bootstrap stuff in 3.6.28 |
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rambutan |
Features: (1) sync w/ mobile devices (2) password manager (3) pop-up blocker (4) form auto-complete (5) Location-Aware Browsing |
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rambutan |
Not saying these aren't good features, just that FF has been adding stuff. |
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oleonard |
The only thing on that list that's new is 1) and 5) |
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rambutan |
I still prefer Konqueror when I want split screens, that's immensely cool to me |
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Joubu |
good bye #koha, have a good week-end! |
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oleonard |
Bye Joubu |
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reiveune |
bye |
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slef |
running patches2bugs mailer |
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slef |
Mailing bug 8252 and bug 8620 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8252 critical, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Needs Signoff , Error in DOM biblio for UNIMARC (no range for fields 1xx) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8620 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Barcode searching not working correctly |
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slef |
I remember looking at both of those. 8252 I did not test because I have no UNIMARC sites and 8620 I wondered if it should fix UNIMARC as well as MARC21 |
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slef |
coding guidelines? |
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wahanui |
coding guidelines are http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines |
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slef |
well they don't mention MARC formats at all |
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slef |
opinions? |
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jcamins |
Yes... I thought I already failed that patch. |
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jcamins |
It regenerates koha-biblio-indexdefs.xml. |
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jcamins |
Or biblio-koha-indexefs |
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jcamins |
Or whatever it's called. |
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jcamins |
Oh, I thought you asked for "thoughts." |
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slef |
huh? |
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slef |
I did |
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slef |
I'm currently working on something else, then may return to that |
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jcamins |
You asked for "opinions," which that wasn't really. |
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slef |
heh, true, but close enough! |
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jcamins |
But oh well. |
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slef |
any thoughts on the MARC21/UNIMARC aspect? |
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slef |
wow, chocolate that you can buy with bitcoin |
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jcamins |
slef: a friend of mine bought cookies from me for BTC. |
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jcamins |
And... I don't know how I feel about the MARC21/UNIMARC issue. Are we sure there's a problem in UNIMARC? |
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slef |
cait: do you use MARC21 or UNIMARC? |
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jcamins |
MARC21. |
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slef |
jcamins: then no :) |
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slef |
cait: only the assignee's comment |
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slef |
grr |
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slef |
jcamins: only the assignee's comment |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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jcamins |
And I question the fix anyway, since it doesn't address whatever the actual issue is. |
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cait |
why would i use unimarc? :) |
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cait |
you asked me htat before :) germany has adopted marc21 and was using a german data format mab/mab2 before |
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cait |
ok, intenet at the hotel is not better than on the train |
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slef |
jcamins: etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml is patched. I don't see it being regenerated, although some of the patching is intriguing. |
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jcamins |
slef: it's regenerated. See the comments? |
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jcamins |
And we have to conclude that the problem is not a missing "any" for barcode, since keyword searching is working in most other fields, right? |
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slef |
jcamins: yeah, those comment changes are the intriguing bit, but I don't know if it's just updates to reflect record.abs |
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jcamins |
Nope. It's the result of regenerating biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml. |
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* slef |
goes to reread bug |
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slef |
jcamins: I guess I just don't understand this enough to review it :-/ |
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jcamins |
He doesn't say that explicitly. |
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slef |
comment 4, right? |
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jcamins |
Oh, yes, he does say it explicitly. |
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jcamins |
I'll fail it tonight, I guess. |
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slef |
ok, I'll stop failing to fail it for now then :) |
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jcamins |
Sounds good. |
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slef |
cait1: hello again. Your internet sucks. |
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cait1 |
it totally does. |
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slef |
or is this an attempt to surround us? |
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cait1 |
and they want 4,50€/hour to use their internet... |
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slef |
wahahwhwhat? |
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slef |
have you asked them what flavour crack their price-setters are on? |
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cait1 |
not for this internet... but to get wifi from the hotel |
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cait1 |
telecom I think |
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cait1 |
some hotels do that... don't have their own but let telecom do it |
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slef |
oh right... why is your o2 failing to be stable? |
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cait1 |
we are a bit outside of the city |
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cait1 |
I am still trying to figure it out |
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cait1 |
and trying to tether from the phone |
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slef |
usb or wifi tether? I find it tends to work better than dongle, which seems a bit odd to me, but I guess the phone has its own power. |
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mustard |
Do none of you Really Smart people have any thoughts of replacing MySql w/ MariaDB (or, huh, MongoDB)? |
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jcamins |
rambutan: I use MariaDB. |
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jcamins |
MongoDB is something else entirely. |
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maximep |
mongodb is a completly different db |
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rambutan |
jcamins: you use mariadb for Koha now? |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
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jcamins |
Not in production. |
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maximep |
jcamins: is mariadb really worth it if you dont use any of its extra features ? |
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jcamins |
maximep: I'm striking a blow for freedom everywhere? |
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rambutan |
I think the issue is freedom as much as features |
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jcamins |
:P |
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maximep |
ah |
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maximep |
right |
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jcamins |
But I don't think it makes much of a difference. |
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jcamins |
There may be an issue with deleting things in MariaDB. |
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jcamins |
But then again, there may just be an issue with deleting things under Plack. |
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maximep |
yeah, i think much of the perf updates are in mysql 5.6 |
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jcamins |
It's hard to tell. |
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maximep |
hmmm we really have to spend time trying Plack for our intranets |
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jcamins |
It works great, except when it doesn't, which is often. |
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maximep |
but I guess you have to update to latest 3.10 for it |
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maximep |
? |
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jcamins |
I wouldn't use it in production for the intranet. |
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maximep |
ok |
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jcamins |
I use Plack on master. |
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cait |
grr |
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cait |
irc logs? |
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wahanui |
irc logs are http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
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maximep |
so this freedom thing is not using anything that could have the word oracle in it ? |
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maximep |
like virtualbox, mysql, etc |
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cait |
oh ok, none of what I said shoed up here... |
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cait |
yay |
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maximep |
I guess I just don't care that much :S |
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cait |
at least thethering seems to work better :) |
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jcamins |
maximep: I have no objection to VirtualBox. |
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jcamins |
Actually, I don't even have any objection to MySQL. |
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jcamins |
Someone told me "hey, you should use MariaDB it's more free," and I said "okay, fine." |
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slef |
I should use MariaDB it's more free. |
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slef |
I need more time to test it, though. |
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slef |
Same old question: What are the priorities? |
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jcamins |
Probably not MariaDB. |
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jcamins |
I'm testing it as a side effect of other things. |
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tcohen |
hi #koha! |
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oleonard |
Hi tcohen |
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tcohen |
i've just sold my car, i got my brain back |
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jcamins |
tcohen: cool, I didn't realize that one could exchange cars for brains. |
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tcohen |
heh, no, but the whole transaction got me too nervous |
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tcohen |
its my first time |
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tcohen |
I see most of the places are filled for 3.14 roles |
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jcamins |
There's always space for you! :D |
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tcohen |
where? cant find |
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cait |
maybe you could help with translations? |
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bag |
we should list everyone names on sign-off'er ;) |
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jcamins |
Or RMaint for 3.12. |
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jcamins |
Or you could do QA. |
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jcamins |
Or packaging. |
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jcamins |
Or work on live CDs/DVDs. |
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jcamins |
Or RM!!!! |
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cait |
ok, that seems like a good moment to leave ;) |
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cait |
bye all |
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jcamins |
Or documentation. |
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wahanui |
documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
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jcamins |
^^ that was cait volunteering to be RM |
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oleonard |
There's gotta be a way we can rope jcamins into being RM or an RMaint... |
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jcamins |
oleonard: not likely, sorry. |
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tcohen |
mmm rmaint is a lot of resposability! |
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jcamins |
It is, but it's also kind of fun. :) |
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tcohen |
i arrived late for 3.8.x, that would be easier as we actually use it |
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tcohen |
anyway, out for lunch :-D |
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jcamins |
You could switch to 3.12! :P |
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slef |
Same old question: What are the priorities? |
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slef |
that and I nuked our koha-community budget :-/ |
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jcamins |
slef: hiring an RM would be rather dear compared to a conference, I think. |
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slef |
jcamins: any idea how many hours you spent RMing on top of what you would have spent anyway? |
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jcamins |
slef: I don't know, but I could probably figure it out. |
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slef |
my last figures are what, 7 releases ago? |
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slef |
and that was RMaint |
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slef |
jcamins: I suspect it would be useful info, help to avoid getting a lame-duck RM. |
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slef |
jcamins: you seem to have kept on top of it pretty well so far, but the next 6 weeks are the tricky bit. |
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jcamins |
Yeah, now is when it goes from "too much" to "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrgggggghhhhhhh." |
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jcamins |
I'd say on the weeks when I don't do much, it's about 10 hours more than I would've spent if I weren't RM. |
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oleonard |
And the project is the better for it. |
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oleonard |
jcamins++ |
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slef |
so 0.28 Full-Time Equivalent |
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jcamins |
Minimum. |
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slef |
but that's minimum |
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slef |
snap |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
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slef |
do you log your time? |
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jcamins |
I log my time for everything other than RM duties. |
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slef |
might be interesting to quantify aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrgggggghhhhhhh |
| 17:37 |
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jcamins |
Yeah. |
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jcamins |
I'll start doing that as of now, though, since it's a good point. |
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slef |
I can mail you a perl time-logger if you like, but you probably have your own tools. |
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jcamins |
I use an online system so that I can tap a large red button on my phone when I start things. |
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slef |
the perl one is hooked up to ours. I don't use it. I use emacs (surprise, huh?) except when travelling. What's yours, if it's FOSS? |
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jcamins |
I actually paid for a subscription to Harvest. |
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jcamins |
I tried a couple of FOSS systems first, but none of them were as streamlined, and a time logger is useless if it's too much trouble to remember to use it. |
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jcamins |
Though I've been using OpenERP for other things and liking it, so I may try and figure out a streamlined interface to its time tracking. |
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slef |
Yeah, we're building our FOSS system up at the moment. |
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slef |
We didn't get on with OpenERP or Tryton, and having more members than FTE workers means that most subscription services quickly become uneconomic for us. |
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jcamins |
When I decided to go with Harvest I had several projects that I billed in 6-minute increments which I switched between frequently, so I just needed something immediately. |
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tcohen |
oleonard, do we have a function to set the language in the cookie? |
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oleonard |
I don't know about that tcohen, sorry. |
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tcohen |
i've managed to set the language using URL parameters |
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tcohen |
but didn't find a proper way to make it persistent setting the cookies |
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jcamins |
tcohen: take a look at how opac-changelanguage.pl does it. |
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jcamins |
Lunch time! |
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rangi |
C4::Templates::setlanguagecookie |
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Topic for #koha is now Happy Birthday Katrin |
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tcohen |
rangi, thanks, I saw it, but it does a redirect also, and I'm not sure how to have to cookie object at that level |
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jcamins |
tcohen: probably you could just tell it to redirect to the page you wanted to go to in the first place? |
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tcohen |
i'l think about it, maybe a no-redirectio version would be the best |
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tcohen |
jcamins, done |
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jcamins |
Yay! |
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tcohen |
is there something about koha design patterns on the wiki? |
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jcamins |
Not to my knowledge. |
| 20:03 |
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tcohen |
bye #koha, have a nice weekend every1 |
| 20:18 |
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oleonard |
jcamins: Bug 9663 says "Pushed" but I don't think it was |
| 20:18 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9663 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Individual bibliographic record "Save" option requires export permission |
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jcamins |
Looks pushed to me. |
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jcamins |
Yup, commit 204a35f889b917c85dd8da716c67fe87657b5b98 |
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oleonard |
Okay, must be a problem on my branch. Thanks for checking |
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oleonard |
I don't understand where we are with Bug 9456 |
| 20:28 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9456 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Add callnumber column to the cart |
| 20:28 |
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jcamins |
I objected to the fact that before the patch I could figure out what library an item was at, and after the patch I could not. |
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oleonard |
My patch is passed QA, but so is a patch that undoes the changes my patch made? |
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jcamins |
I think the follow-up was supposed to eliminate the table, which we're trying to avoid using for layout? |
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jcamins |
That was what I got out of the discussion. |
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jcamins |
I had understood that the appearance was the same both with and without the follow-up. |
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jcamins |
I did not check. |
| 20:31 |
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jcamins |
If the original patch adds something useful and leaves the screen readable, I could push it. |
| 20:32 |
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jcamins |
I did not look at the two patches separately. |
| 20:32 |
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jcamins |
I mean, I reviewed the code for both patches, but not the result. |
| 20:32 |
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jcamins |
Or started reviewing before I realized that I wasn't going to push it no matter what. |
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oleonard |
Unfortunately looking at it now I think git's auto-merge breaks the table-sorting in my patch |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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oleonard |
I've attached a rebased patch to 9456, FWIW. khall and I differ about the best way to approach it. |
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jcamins |
I am going to go with whichever patch results in improvements we can use without causing any regressions. |
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oleonard |
Have a good weekend #koha |
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cait |
aaaw |
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* cait |
wonders who is to blame for the motd |
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jcamins |
Happy birthday! |
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* jcamins |
throws confetti. |
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cait |
hm it's too early jcamins :) |
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cait |
only 22:25 here :) but I appreaciate the thought :) |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
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cait |
well... becasue you are not in nz |
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cait |
timzones are confusing |
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jcamins |
They are. |
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* cait |
nods |
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cjh |
#koha birthday party for cait \o/ |
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cait |
lol |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
I decided to change the versioning with this birthday.... it will be "katrin release cookie dough icecream" maybe |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
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jcamins |
I like this idea. |
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| 21:52 |
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Jlozano |
I got the server installed a couple of days ago, deleted the sample libraries, added some patrons... life is good. I'm not gonna push it until next week |
| 21:53 |
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jcamins |
Excellent! |
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jcamins |
What kind of library do you have? |
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cait |
and which vresion did you install? :) |
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jcamins |
That's also a good question. |
| 21:53 |
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Jlozano |
well, we have Sirsi Dynex and I'm exploring how we can get from under that bill. |
| 21:53 |
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Jlozano |
it's our university library. |
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Jlozano |
about 80K items. |
| 21:54 |
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cait |
oh, where are you located? :) |
| 21:54 |
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Jlozano |
Charlotte, NC Queens University of Charlotte. |
| 21:54 |
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Jlozano |
Installed v 3.8 |
| 21:54 |
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Jlozano |
tried 3.10 but wouln't install. |
| 21:54 |
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cait |
and I was wondering about the koha version because there is sometimes some confusion about the different versions - so best to make sure you get it right :) |
| 21:55 |
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Jlozano |
something about pearl, blah, blah, blah. |
| 21:56 |
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jcamins |
Really? Hm. It should install smoothly. |
| 21:56 |
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Jlozano |
I have two instances, I have one on Amazon AWS and I bought a Linode server for the month. |
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rangi |
did you use the packages or the tarball? |
| 21:56 |
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Jlozano |
pkgs. |
| 21:56 |
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Jlozano |
followed the "Koha in 11 mins" youtube video. |
| 21:56 |
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rangi |
never heard of that |
| 21:57 |
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jcamins |
Nor have I. |
| 21:57 |
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Jlozano |
yeah, youtube, a dude at AppState university did it. |
| 21:57 |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
| 21:57 |
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Jlozano |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRbyePlN-QY |
| 21:57 |
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jcamins |
I guess someone should probably watch it, confirm that it's correct. |
| 21:58 |
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Jlozano |
It got me up and running. |
| 21:58 |
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cait |
my internet connection si not stable enough... |
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* jcamins |
isn't at home. |
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rangi |
if it follows that wiki page, it will be ok |
| 21:59 |
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jcamins |
I guess the fact that Jlozano didn't have any problems suggests that it does. |
| 21:59 |
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Jlozano |
It does, however it does begin on how go get the server, and devian version ETC. |
| 21:59 |
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Jlozano |
and shows you how you can essentially get a free server for a year on AWS Amazon. |
| 22:00 |
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jcamins |
Most people who try to follow a set of instructions that aren't the same as the recommended ones end up on #koha asking for help unbreaking their installation. :) |
| 22:00 |
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Jlozano |
750 hrs a month anyway, which is convenient, because that's how many hours there are in a month. |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
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rangi |
hmm 3.10.03 installed ok just now for me .. if you get a chance to try again sometime if you could document exactly the error you get that would be good |
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Jlozano |
yeah, when I do a production run on it, I will, right now it's just research on the system. |
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Jlozano |
I haven't even tried to put in a volume. |
| 22:01 |
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cait |
38 has not the same feature set as 3.10 :) |
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cait |
koha is moving quite fast between versions |
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Jlozano |
The basic error was that it didn't get past dependency check pearl not installed and nothing happened. |
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would guess it was the dependency on digest-jhash, which we removed from the dependency list since it didn't play nicely with multiarch systems. |
| 22:03 |
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Jlozano |
how long ago? I wonder if I should try again. |
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Jlozano |
What would you say it's the main reason to be on .10 v .8? |
| 22:04 |
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jcamins |
Um, it was removed yesterday. |
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cait |
many people still run older versions - but maybe take a look at rlease notes sometime |
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jcamins |
I use 3.6.x in production. |
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cait |
yep we do that too |
| 22:05 |
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jcamins |
We've been talking about upgrading to 3.8.x. |
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jcamins |
But I keep on getting gun-shy when it's time to pull the trigger. |
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cait |
but if you plan a migration it#s most often a longer timeframe I was thinking |
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Jlozano |
well, I might be image and install 3.10 if that dependency thing is not a problem anymore. |
| 22:07 |
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Jlozano |
* reimage I mean. |
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Jlozano |
To be honest I just have to get my marc records in a row first tho. |
| 22:08 |
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jcamins |
cait: true. |
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drojf |
good evening #koha |
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drojf |
cait: it is still an hour in our timezone, right? (topic) |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
:) |
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drojf |
ok :) |
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cait |
:) |
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Jlozano |
Anybody ever talk to anyone from bywater? are the ever on here? |
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drojf |
which anyone would you like? ;) |
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jcamins |
bag: around? |
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cait |
Jlozano: they are around quite a bit |
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cait |
melia: around? |
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jcamins |
NateC: around? |
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melia |
yep I'm here |
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jcamins |
^^ there you go. Someone from ByWater. |
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NateC |
Im hea |
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jcamins |
^^ and another |
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cait |
and another one |
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drojf |
heh |
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NateC |
jlozano: we are always here :) |
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bag |
hey |
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Jlozano |
ah, nice! |
| 22:14 |
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jcamins |
(bag = Brendan Gallagher, NateC = Nate Curulla, and melia = Melia Meggs) |
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NateC |
jlozano: you have the two owners and the COO at your service! |
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Jlozano |
I think I talked with someone from there but it was some time ago. |
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Jlozano |
wow. |
| 22:15 |
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Jlozano |
You guys are the real deal I guess. |
| 22:16 |
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NateC |
heh |
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drojf |
only important people on #koha. important people and me. |
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rangi |
heh |
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drojf |
i. myself. whatever. late |
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jcamins |
drojf: "me" was okay there. "I" is considered to sound overly stuffy. |
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cait |
lol |
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* cait |
hands drojf cookies |
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cait |
now exactly how you feel |
| 22:17 |
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drojf |
cookies \o/ |
| 22:17 |
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cait |
know |
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cait |
... |
| 22:17 |
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drojf |
lol |
| 22:18 |
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jcamins |
Jlozano: you'll find that the denizens of #koha include some rather impressive individuals. rangi was the original author of the first version of Koha, and cait is the Quality Assurance Manager for the project. |
| 22:19 |
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cait |
um. |
| 22:19 |
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* cait |
goes into hiding |
| 22:19 |
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rangi |
and jcamins is the 3.12 release manager |
| 22:19 |
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Jlozano |
wow, it's nice to know everyone is still involved. So many people bail on projects. |
| 22:20 |
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jcamins |
I have a puzzle for you: who files "De Bie" under *B*? |
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cait |
hm |
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jcamins |
("De Bie" being a last name) |
| 22:20 |
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cait |
if it was afrench lastname it would be correct |
| 22:20 |
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Jlozano |
oh, that would be me. |
| 22:20 |
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cait |
but i have no idea what it is |
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jcamins |
Jlozano: hehe. |
| 22:21 |
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cait |
at least it would be in rak |
| 22:21 |
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cait |
Jlozano: koha is quite international too :) |
| 22:21 |
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cait |
so almost always someone is here.. except for weekends |
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cait |
then it's a bit more quiet and I have to talk to myself most of the time |
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melia |
ha! |
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jcamins |
cait: it's possible he's German. |
| 22:22 |
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jcamins |
De Bie, that is. |
| 22:22 |
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Jlozano |
that's awesome! |
| 22:22 |
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jcamins |
However, he is definitely "De Bie" not "de Bie." |
| 22:22 |
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Jlozano |
Hey anybody know a free dewey generator? |
| 22:22 |
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cait |
De Bie doens't look german to me, drojf? |
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jcamins |
cait: no, not at all German. |
| 22:23 |
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jcamins |
Hence the reason I think that "de" is probably not an article that can be stuck at the end. |
| 22:23 |
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jcamins |
(that is, he was German, the name is not) |
| 22:24 |
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cait |
well |
| 22:24 |
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cait |
it would be french |
| 22:24 |
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rangi |
Jlozano: i think the copyright (or is it patent) on dewey would stop that |
| 22:24 |
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cait |
not german for the article I think |
| 22:24 |
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jcamins |
Really? That's definitely not the way it works in AACR2. |
| 22:24 |
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rangi |
trademark |
| 22:24 |
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jcamins |
You go based on where people would actually look for a person. |
| 22:24 |
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cait |
i mean de something is more a french last name than a german one |
| 22:25 |
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rangi |
gah oclc you clowns |
| 22:25 |
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rangi |
http://www.oclc.org/news/releases/20031124.htm |
| 22:25 |
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cait |
jcamins: I forgot the exact rle for that... and they changed some stuff for gnd I guess |
| 22:26 |
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jcamins |
cait: anyway, my point is, De Bie should be filed under D with all his relatives. |
| 22:26 |
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jcamins |
(Debie) |
| 22:27 |
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jcamins |
Jlozano: as you may have gathered, I am also a cataloger, and right now I am using my least favorite bibliography ever. |
| 22:27 |
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drojf |
looks dutch to me |
| 22:27 |
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drojf |
de bie i mean |
| 22:27 |
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jcamins |
drojf: that may be. But if his son (brother? nephew?) is filed under "Debie," he should be too. |
| 22:28 |
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rangi |
what does viaf say |
| 22:28 |
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Jlozano |
jcamins: hate that stuff. |
| 22:28 |
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jcamins |
rangi: it agrees with me. |
| 22:28 |
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Jlozano |
ok, all, nice to meet everyone, but it's way past 5 on a friday... see you all later. |
| 22:28 |
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cait |
Jlozano: what I wanted to say earlier - jcamins is in new york, drojf and me are from germany and rangi is nz :) |
| 22:29 |
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Jlozano |
ahhh. internationall indeed. |
| 22:29 |
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jcamins |
Ooh, you're right, cait. DNB does it wrong! |
| 22:29 |
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rangi |
its 11.26 am on saturday actually |
| 22:29 |
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rangi |
;) |
| 22:29 |
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cait |
nooo |
| 22:29 |
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cait |
23:26 on friday |
| 22:29 |
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jcamins |
I have to agree with Jlozano. |
| 22:31 |
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rangi |
we should use more marc |
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wahanui |
http://02varvara.files.wordpre[…]no-bear.jpg?w=800 |
| 22:31 |
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* rangi |
giggles |
| 22:31 |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
| 22:31 |
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Jlozano |
lol, well, it's past 1700 EST! gotta go! |
| 22:32 |
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Jlozano |
later |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
| 22:33 |
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jcamins |
Guess everyone noticed the time. |
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bag |
@wunder 93102 |
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huginn |
bag: The current temperature in Westside, Santa Barbara, California is 29.2°C (2:39 PM PST on March 01, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa (Falling). |
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bag |
29!!! it's stinking hot outside |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn |
drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 2.5°C (11:13 PM CET on March 01, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
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drojf |
it's all yours if you want it |
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rangi |
29 is pretty warm for march isnt it? |
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jcamins |
@wunder lubbock, tx |
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huginn |
jcamins: The current temperature in WT_Meso Lubbock 3W, Lubbock, Texas is 11.7°C (4:30 PM CST on March 01, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024 hPa (Rising). |
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bag |
well not crazy - May June and July is colder for us |
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bag |
We have june gloom that whole time - just cloud cover |
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tcohen |
@wunder cordoba, argentia |
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huginn |
tcohen: Error: No such location could be found. |
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tcohen |
@wunder cordoba, argentina |
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huginn |
tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 32.0°C (7:00 PM ART on March 01, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Falling). |
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jcamins |
@wunder riyadh, saudi arabia |
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huginn |
jcamins: The current temperature in King Khaled, Saudi Arabia is 21.0°C (1:00 AM AST on March 02, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
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jcamins |
@wunder dubai, uae |
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huginn |
jcamins: The current temperature in Dubai, UAE is 22.0°C (2:00 AM GST on March 02, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling). |
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bag |
@wunder death valley national park ca |
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huginn |
bag: The current temperature in RAWS HUNTER MOUNTAIN CA US, Keeler, California is 15.0°C (2:23 PM PST on March 01, 2013). Conditions: . Humidity: 16%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Pressure: 30.69 in 1039.2 hPa. |
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bag |
HA |
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bag |
@wunder baker ca |
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huginn |
bag: The current temperature in Daggett-Barstow, California is 23.0°C (1:50 PM PST on March 01, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 11%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Pressure: 30.29 in 1026 hPa (Falling). |
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cait |
@wunder dortmund |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Stadtkrone Ost, Dortmund, Germany is 1.6°C (11:40 PM CET on March 01, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:53 |
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bag |
rangi I'm thinking of taking Ginny pie to a baseball game tomorrow |
| 22:53 |
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bag |
I've got a full mets jersey/onsesie to dress her in :P |
| 22:54 |
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rangi |
ohh awesome |
| 22:54 |
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cait |
:) |
| 22:55 |
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bag |
yeah first time for everything right (HA :P ) |
| 22:55 |
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bag |
I vote that jcamins hosts a kohacon or maybe a NY hackfest - so we can go to a mets game (but then also guessing jcamins isn't a baseball fan) |
| 23:02 |
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jcamins |
I enjoyed minor league games. |
| 23:02 |
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jcamins |
Major league I found incredibly dull. |
| 23:02 |
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bag |
ahhh jcamins my opinion of you just increased 100 fold! |
| 23:02 |
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bag |
jcamins++ |
| 23:02 |
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bag |
(and in no way was I saying it was bad - just saying it's much better now :) ) |
| 23:02 |
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jcamins |
:) |
| 23:02 |
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rangi |
ive only ever been to one game |
| 23:02 |
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rangi |
and that was at kohacon09 |
| 23:02 |
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bag |
rangi knew way more about baseball than I ever knew about cricket (but that has changed) and knew why more than schuster and paul_p combined |
| 23:02 |
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cait |
lol |
| 23:02 |
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cait |
wish i had been there :) |
| 23:02 |
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rangi |
oleonard was there too |
| 23:02 |
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drojf |
i'm not going to say that i have no idea how these things work |
| 23:02 |
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cait |
drojf: more cookies? |
| 23:02 |
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tcohen |
is baseball watching enjoyable? |
| 23:02 |
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tcohen |
(i'm asking just because I don't even understand the rules) |
| 23:02 |
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jcamins |
tcohen: I found the minor league enjoyable. |
| 23:03 |
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jcamins |
Things actually happen. |
| 23:03 |
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jcamins |
Well, sort of. |
| 23:03 |
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drojf |
HAPPY CET BIRTHDAY cait!! :) |
| 23:03 |
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bgkriegel |
cait: Happy birthday!! :) |
| 23:03 |
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cait |
CET? :) |
| 23:03 |
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cait |
thank you drojf and bgkriegel :) |
| 23:03 |
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cait |
ah a timezone thingy |
| 23:03 |
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tcohen |
hey cait, please tell kf "happy birtdhay" |
| 23:03 |
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drojf |
central european time. isn't that what we live in? :) |
| 23:03 |
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bag |
if you go with some that point out some of the finer (strategy points) it's really good. but otherwise it does seem like a lot of standing around |
| 23:04 |
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cait |
heh I will tcohen :) |
| 23:04 |
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bag |
it's really interesting to watch the small little things that happen on each pitch (it's a mind game more than crazy endurance) |
| 23:04 |
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bag |
happy birthday cait! |
| 23:05 |
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tcohen |
bag: i'll give it a try some day |
| 23:05 |
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cait |
thx bag |
| 23:05 |
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* cait |
gets out the birthday cake |
| 23:08 |
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drojf |
cake \o/ |
| 23:13 |
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rangi |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5kUPIbINbE |
| 23:15 |
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tcohen |
oh, i've always thought of cricket as something reminiscent to golf |
| 23:16 |
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tcohen |
now I know crocket and cricket are not the same thing |
| 23:16 |
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tcohen |
hehehe |
| 23:16 |
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drojf |
lol |
| 23:17 |
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rangi |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEwCaxx1OJo |
| 23:18 |
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rangi |
on any given week there are around 55,000 games of cricket played in india :) |
| 23:19 |
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rambutan joined #koha |
| 23:20 |
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tcohen |
interesting sport |
| 23:26 |
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drojf |
interesting |
| 23:26 |
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wahanui |
well, interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 23:26 |
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drojf |
:) |
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rambutan left #koha |
| 23:33 |
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cait |
good night all :) |
| 23:33 |
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drojf |
good night cait |
