IRC log for #koha, 2012-11-10

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01:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #937 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:19 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8931' into 3.12-master <[…]7449f5ea5a13ed3ad> / Bug 8931 [Follow-up] submit buttons have blue background <[…]f9b9a2245ea3541fa> / Bug 9010 - Follou up Quote of the day: Umlauts do not display correctly <
01:51 jcamins Does anyone around have an install of master handy?
02:05 jcamins Don't all answer at once...
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02:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #937: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/937/
02:21 jenkins_koha * serhijdubyk: Bug 9010 - Quote of the day: Umlauts do not display correctly Added utf8-encoding in json-header for correct view quotes in quotes editor.
02:21 jenkins_koha * veron: Bug 9010 - Follou up Quote of the day: Umlauts do not display correctly
02:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8931 [Follow-up] submit buttons have blue background
02:21 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9010 blocker, P5 - low, ---, dubyk, Pushed to Master , Quote of the day: Umlauts do not display correctly
02:21 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8931 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , submit buttons have blue background
02:22 jcamins Unstable?
02:22 wahanui it has been said that Unstable is sid
02:22 jcamins Oh.
02:23 jcamins @later tell rangi Can you run the updatedatabase on jenkins?
02:23 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
02:25 jcamins @later tell rangi I have an addition for the 3.8.7 release notes. Could you put in really big letters "YOU MUST REINDEX YOUR BIBLIOS IF YOU ARE USING DOM INDEXING OR DISASTER WILL ENSUE!!!!" somewhere near the top?
02:25 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
02:39 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8996' into 3.12-master <[…]47387a8686b9dca13> / Bug 8996: In result page items with negative notforloan are available <[…]7450d3471cd8bc98e> / Merge branch 'bug_6428' into 3.12-master <[…]=koha.git;a=commi
02:39 rangi back
02:41 jcamins Whoah.
02:41 jcamins I love it when a plan comes together.
02:41 rangi heh
02:41 jcamins My search: "madam president"
02:41 jcamins Top suggestion: "Did you mean: Women presidential candidates"
02:41 jcamins Yes yes yes!
02:41 rangi nice
02:42 jcamins That is 100% relevant to this search.
02:42 jcamins And I have no clue how it came up.
02:42 jenkins_koha Starting build #938 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #936 21 hr ago)
02:43 jcamins And then I killed Plack.
02:44 rangi heh
02:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5490: is an orphan <[…]f64fd73704b89bae6>
02:51 jcamins Well, darn.
02:51 jcamins I ran out of disk space.
02:51 jcamins No.
02:51 jcamins I ran out of Zebra space.
02:52 rangi ah yeah
02:53 jcamins Thankfully it was the shadow that failed.
02:53 rangi hm i think ill change Highlights
02:53 rangi to Major fixes
02:53 rangi for maintenance releases anyway
02:53 jcamins Well, darn. It erased the register even though the shadow had failed.
02:55 jcamins Why do we bother with shadow if we're just going to wipe the register anyway?
02:55 jcamins (rhetorical question)
02:55 jcamins That makes sense to me, Major fixes instead of Highlights.
02:59 jcamins Wow, yeah, I can confirm that we erase the indexes *prior* to preparing the shadow index when -r is specified.
03:00 rangi yeah we like to punch ourselves in the face
03:00 jcamins Actually, this is only mostly our fault.
03:01 jcamins Oh you have got to be kidding me!
03:02 * jcamins bangs his head on the table, hoping this will make rebuild_zebra less... poor.
03:02 jcamins No.
03:02 jcamins No luck.
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03:03 jcamins We still made a conscious decision to use a dangerous delete operation when a safe alternative existed.
03:05 rangi yep
03:05 rangi another legacy of liblime
03:05 * jcamins hides under his desk, hoping that if he stays there stupid decisions won't come out of the woodwork to taunt him.
03:07 rangi another couple of releases and we should have got rid of most of the crazy code that snuck in that era
03:12 jcamins zebraidx init is a problem.
03:12 jcamins A big problem.
03:12 wahanui rumour has it a big problem is that I forgot where I had left off, although, I could try to see from a diff
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03:13 jcamins I see no way around the fact that -r is inherently dangerous.
03:28 jcamins Right, given that there's no way to avoid erasing the index, I suggest that we're better off disabling shadow for reindexing.
03:31 * jcamins does it.
03:50 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #938: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/938/
03:50 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8988: item status uses authorized value description for intranet
03:50 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 7921: Software error while placing order
03:50 jenkins_koha * nunyo: Bug 6428 - refered column 'items.coded_location_qualifier' does not exist
03:50 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 6428: Increment version number
03:50 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8996: In result page items with negative notforloan are available
03:51 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8988 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , item status uses authorized value description for intranet
03:51 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7921 major, P3, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Software error while placing order
03:51 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6428 normal, P2, ---, nunyo, Pushed to Master , refered column 'items.coded_location_qualifier' does not exist
03:51 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8996 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , In result page items with negative notforloan are available
03:52 jenkins_koha Starting build #939 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #936 23 hr ago)
03:52 jcamins Still unstable?
03:52 wahanui well, unstable is sid
03:55 jcamins rangi: any idea what could be going wrong there?
03:55 jcamins It passes on my system.
03:55 rangi what test is failing?
03:56 rangi hm a bunch of them
03:56 jcamins t/db_dependent/Items.t and t/db_dependent/Reserves.t
03:56 rangi and Record
03:56 jcamins Oh, that's still failing too?
03:56 rangi yep
03:57 jcamins Hm.
03:57 jcamins Oh, I see. It only lists new failures.
03:57 rangi fixed items
03:57 rangi that was another update needed
03:57 jcamins What was the problem?
03:57 jcamins Ah.
03:57 rangi Upgrade to done (Bug 6428: Added coded_location_qualifier to the items table)
03:57 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6428 normal, P2, ---, nunyo, Pushed to Master , refered column 'items.coded_location_qualifier' does not exist
03:58 rangi ditto reserves
03:58 rangi record is still failing
03:58 rangi ok 7 - testing marcQualified
03:58 rangi I/O warning : failed to load HTTP resource
03:58 rangi compilation error: file /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-​tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2MODS3-1.xsl element include
03:58 rangi xsl:include : unable to load[…]RC21slimUtils.xsl
03:59 jcamins Oh.
03:59 jcamins Yes, LC's server is down.
03:59 rangi that'd do it
03:59 jcamins That's going to keep on failing until Tuesday.
03:59 rangi for 4 days or something
03:59 jcamins Yeah.
03:59 rangi what century do we live in again
03:59 jcamins lol
03:59 rangi libraries ... special snowflakes :)
04:13 rangi hmm bug 9046
04:13 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9046 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Items are not exported with the tools/
04:14 jcamins_away rangi: I think that's command-line only.
04:14 jcamins_away (the problem)
04:14 rangi yep, just tested
04:27 rangi hmm new committer
04:28 rangi that will make 195
04:35 * druthb does a happy-geek dance
04:37 druthb is now being populated from my Google Reader subscriptions, automagically.
04:37 * druthb wrote the plugin to do that, based on some bits and pieces she found elsewhere.
05:01 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #939: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/939/
05:01 jenkins_koha jcamins: Bug 5490: is an orphan
05:01 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5490 trivial, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, Pushed to Master , Is an orphan
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08:55 amirseni hi
08:57 amirseni Greetings, anyone available to help me out?
08:57 amirseni Got a problem with diacritics showing up as a white question mark on black  on the opac and staff interface
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10:03 WaylonR hiya all
10:03 WaylonR damn, missed the meeting, oh well.
10:03 WaylonR Anyway guys, problem..... Undefined subroutine &C4::Koha::GetBranchesCount called at /usr/local/apps/koha/kohadev/C4/ line 782.
10:05 WaylonR okay, ive done some development work... but GetBranchesCount exists in C4::Branch correctly, and use C4::Branch qw(GetBranchesCount); exists in C4:Koha;
10:59 WaylonR hmm.. using C4:Branch::GetBranchesCount works, instead of just having GetBranchesCount;
11:02 slef is GetBranchesCount in @EXPORT
11:03 slef oh wait, read scrollback
11:03 slef :)
11:03 WaylonR yes
11:03 WaylonR so yea.. quite odd.
11:03 * WaylonR shrugs
11:03 WaylonR some one can look at the patch i submit and figure it out.
11:04 WaylonR wow.. this whole multiple branch/branch security mod is hmm... almost done.
11:04 slef WaylonR: sounds interesting. What's it do?
11:05 WaylonR Just got to add a dropdown to the extendedattributes.
11:05 WaylonR okay. 1. Allows multiple branches to be assigned to a patron using Borrower Extended Attributes.
11:05 WaylonR multiple branchcodes
11:06 WaylonR so the usual home 'branchcode' and then in the borrower_attributes table, more branchcode
11:06 slef WaylonR: I know one library wanting to switch to IndependentBranches, to stop branches messing with each others' patrons, but there's that big scary warning about not changing that post-installation (which I don't remember why). Could this help them?
11:06 WaylonR yeah... don't see why not.
11:08 WaylonR 2. My patch gives three settings. All - no change to normal koha. preferhome - at the start of every search, home branch is selected automatically, secure - only branches in ones patron record are searchable, and only the ones in the record, appear to be searchable.
11:08 WaylonR so secure, both filters GetBranches and the actual search limit itself.
11:08 WaylonR so no one can fudge the dice.
11:08 WaylonR erm... .... hack around it.
11:08 * WaylonR is a D&D player.
11:09 WaylonR i.e limit=branch:B will not show B's results, unless you actually have B in your patron record.
11:10 WaylonR in fact, in the next page, Branch:b will not exist in the cgi line.
11:11 WaylonR 3. Multiple branches can be selected via a dropdown in advanced search, to add branches to the limit... limiting the search to only those branches.
11:12 WaylonR In this manner, a huge library, with smaller libraries within, can reserve libraries for certain patrons.
11:13 WaylonR Or one Koha server can serve multiple libraries, all independant and unaware of each other, from a patrons point of view.
11:13 WaylonR Unless a patron has access to more than one library of course.
11:13 WaylonR makes sense, slef ?
11:21 WaylonR okay, heres another problem... how to differentaite the branchcode extended attribute, so i can splice jquery <options> into it? or do i need to change it in code and template prehaps? hmmm.
11:35 WaylonR better said, how do i create a extendedattribute with multiple choice options?
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12:17 * cait waves at WaylonR before running out again
12:30 WaylonR hey cait
12:31 WaylonR my multibranch mod is semi-complete.
12:31 cait cool :)
12:31 WaylonR want it?
12:31 cait yeah, it sounds cool
12:32 WaylonR cool.. whats your email?
12:32 cait ah
12:32 cait sorry, no time to test I think
12:32 WaylonR ah.. right true
12:32 cait but i am looking forward to see it in koha :)
12:32 cait are you at a stage where you can submit your patches to bugzilla? or a branch?
12:33 * WaylonR nods. yeah.. looking for a virgin to test it on. hmm... I think this mod is pretty standalone., so using one cherrypick/patch, i think it can be brought into a koha.
12:34 cait are you familiar with the process for submits?
12:35 cait your feature should be based on current master, you put the patch on your bug and then set it to needs sign-off with testing instructions and a description
12:35 WaylonR hmm...
12:35 WaylonR okay, so need to make a bug/feature report first.
12:35 cait yep :)
12:35 cait that's the first step :)
12:36 cait set version to master
12:36 * WaylonR has been using his own bugzilla.
12:36 WaylonR well.. git pull would handle an update yes?
12:36 cait hm or 3.12 - not quite sure wha tis better right now
12:36 WaylonR after commit, or before?
12:36 cait WaylonR: hm?
12:37 cait I think I wou.d do a git pull on your master branch
12:37 cait and then you hopefully have your feature on a topic branch :)
12:37 WaylonR hmm?
12:37 cait you could to a git rebase origin/master there
12:37 WaylonR yes, feature is in a feature branch.
12:37 WaylonR ahhh
12:37 cait or you could checkout a new branch from master and cherry pick
12:37 cait there are different ways to do it
12:37 WaylonR okay.. so first step... is commiting this code to its feature branch.
12:38 WaylonR git commit -m "blah" right? its been a few weeks since i used that command.
12:38 cait yeah or just git commit and then put in your subject and the description in the editor
12:38 cait first line will be the subject
12:38 cait don't forget to git add the changed files first
12:45 WaylonR whew... 8 added files.. to support the jquery multichoice dropdown.
12:45 WaylonR hmm.... thinking it could be easier if i install Xorg onto my remote devbox.
12:46 cait hm not sure if it was easier, I odn't use git gui tools
12:46 cait but I may hav emisunderstood you anyway :)
12:47 WaylonR Xorg yes, gui.
12:47 * WaylonR is just lazy, and its almost 2am.
12:48 WaylonR does git add wildcards work?
12:48 WaylonR like git add dropdown*
12:48 WaylonR ?
12:50 cait yep
12:50 cait git add installer/*
12:51 cait you could also do git add --all if you are very sure that all changed files are only for that one feature
12:51 * WaylonR nods. okay... think i added everything that needs to be committed..
12:53 WaylonR commit looks good...
12:53 jcamins_away Make sure you include a detailed test plan.
12:54 WaylonR right... ah.. how do i get back to my master branch?
12:54 cait git checkout master?
12:54 jcamins_away git checkout master
12:54 WaylonR then git pull?
12:55 WaylonR then switch back to my feature branch, then rebase
12:55 jcamins_away If you want to do a pull, sure.
12:55 WaylonR git pull, brings in the changes since last update yes?
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12:55 jcamins_away You want to rebase your feature branch?
12:56 jcamins_away Yes, it does, but there's a better way to do it.
12:56 jcamins Check out the feature branch.
12:56 jcamins Run `git fetch`
12:56 WaylonR ah..
12:56 WaylonR k.
12:56 jcamins Then run `git rebase origin/master` (replacing "origin" with whatever you called your remote)
12:57 jcamins For more safety, delete the master branch.
12:57 WaylonR huh? delete the master branch?
12:57 WaylonR why?
12:58 * cait is curious about that too :)
12:58 jcamins Because you can't accidentally make changes on a branch that doesn't exist.
12:59 WaylonR uh.... how could i make changes to master, when i am careful to git status before committing?
12:59 jcamins By mistake.
12:59 WaylonR and why is git fetch, better than git pull?
13:00 jcamins One day you will forget to run git status.
13:00 jcamins Rebasing on the remote branch safeguards you from any problems in your local repo.
13:01 jcamins Having done this several hundred times I can tell you that you _will_ accidentally commit a patch to the wrong branch at some point.
13:01 jcamins If you're lucky you'll notice it right away.
13:01 WaylonR git rebase origin/master
13:01 jcamins Most likely you won't.
13:01 jcamins Right.
13:01 WaylonR warning: refname 'origin/master' is ambiguous.
13:02 jcamins ...
13:03 jcamins Right, here's a perfect example of what I'm talking about.
13:03 jcamins You managed to create a branch called origin/master.
13:04 WaylonR hmm.
13:04 jcamins I don't know how to fix it.
13:04 jcamins You could try `git branch -D origin/master && git fetch origin` but I have no idea what the end result would be.
13:05 jcamins This is why any branch with a name like "master" gives me the heebie-jeebies.
13:05 jcamins One mistake, and a tired developer could easily fail to rebase their code onto what they wanted to, and never know.
13:06 WaylonR yeah.. thats f'ed up... changed to my master.. my feature branch commit appears on top of the master, after git fetch, git rebase origin/master
13:07 WaylonR as if i cherry-picked it in.
13:07 jcamins Okay, that's good.
13:07 WaylonR huh?
13:08 jcamins You can simply rename the branch.
13:09 jcamins You didn't end up with the most common result, which is a merge and your commit somewhere in the middle.
13:09 WaylonR odd thing is, i didn't cherrypick it.
13:09 WaylonR so.. how did it happen?
13:09 jcamins No, you committed your change to master to begin with.
13:09 cait you committed it to the wrong branch I guess
13:09 cait there are some tools out there that make the branch you are on visible on your bash line
13:09 cait I use that
13:09 cait it's very helpful
13:10 cait it also shows if I have uncommited changes
13:10 cait well not tools actually
13:10 cait but some code you can put in your  bashrc file
13:11 WaylonR thats odd.. i commited it to the correct branch.
13:11 WaylonR but it went into master too.
13:12 cait maybe you had commited it earlier?
13:12 WaylonR and its in origin/master
13:13 WaylonR ... duh.
13:13 jcamins There are two options here: 1) you aren't actually looking at all these branches, or 2) you committed the code to master prior to branching.
13:13 WaylonR by typing git branch origin/master, i created origin/master
13:13 jcamins Yes.
13:13 WaylonR when i should of used git checkout master
13:13 jcamins `git branch X` is not something you should ever run.
13:14 jcamins Well- I have never had a use for it.
13:14 WaylonR yes.. so i have now got a few branches to delete.
13:14 WaylonR git branch -D <branchname> ?
13:16 WaylonR jcamins, ?
13:16 wahanui jcamins, is there something identifiably unique about them?
13:16 jcamins Yes.
13:16 WaylonR thanks.
13:17 WaylonR hmm....  how do i remove an accidental commit to a branch? obviously, i didn't want the mod commited to my master branch... but i ended up creating a new master branch, overwriting my old master branch..
13:17 cait git reset --soft HEAD1
13:17 cait um HEAD^
13:17 WaylonR or would it be easier to delete master, and origin/master, and have a local_master git pulled?
13:17 cait for one
13:17 cait soft will uncommit, --hard will kill it
13:18 jcamins WaylonR: it would be better to not have a master branch at all in my opinion.
13:18 * jcamins was just saying this sort of thing happens All. The. Time.
13:18 WaylonR then... how do you create a new feature branch, without a master to base it on?
13:18 jcamins git checkout -b bug_whatever origin/master
13:19 WaylonR sounds like it pulls the entire origin/master again?
13:19 WaylonR lots of downloading?
13:19 jcamins No.
13:19 jcamins You have to run git fetch occasionally.
13:20 jcamins But you have to update your master branch before starting a new development every time anyway.
13:20 WaylonR so.... it caches origin/master, without needing a branch to sit in?
13:20 jcamins Right.
13:20 jcamins You have a copy of the entire origin repository.
13:21 WaylonR ive accidently created a origin/master branch.. will deleting it, delete that copy?
13:23 jcamins I have no idea.
13:23 WaylonR eep.
13:23 jcamins I don't think you have a choice, though.
13:23 jcamins Without deleting that branch, you can't do any more development, nor submit the code you ahve.
13:23 jcamins *have
13:23 WaylonR right.
13:24 WaylonR will deleting that branch, affect the commits that are in other branches?
13:25 jcamins No.
13:27 WaylonR okay done.
13:28 WaylonR git reset --soft HEAD will reset a branch back to remote/origin/master, but other branches will still have the commits ive committed to them yes?
13:29 WaylonR it just uncommits from THIS branch.. not actually deletes the commit from all branches?
13:30 jcamins[…]cs/git-reset.html
13:39 WaylonR okay.. just bit the bullet and deleted master
13:39 WaylonR went back to multibranch mod.. and rebased
13:39 WaylonR woo.. found conflicts.
13:45 WaylonR okay... resolved conflicts.. did git status.. its not on a branch..
13:46 jcamins Did you follow the instructions it gave you about rebasing?
13:49 WaylonR git checkout to a different branch.
13:49 WaylonR git branch -D master
13:49 WaylonR git fetch
13:49 WaylonR git rebase origin/master
13:49 jcamins Right, when you ran `git rebase origin/master` it gave you a bunch of instructions.
13:51 WaylonR when one uses git rebase, and gets a conflict, one normally ends up on (no branch) ?
13:54 jcamins Not if one follows the instructions.
13:54 jcamins When you are resolving the conflict you will not be on any branch.
13:54 WaylonR ahh
13:55 jcamins However, if you follow the instructions you were given about how to rebase, you will end up with everything rebased on your branch.
13:59 WaylonR woot! got it.
13:59 WaylonR rebased
13:59 WaylonR Yay!
13:59 WaylonR now i can go to bed.
14:00 WaylonR night all!
14:00 WaylonR thanks heaps jcamins
14:02 jcamins You're welcome.
14:07 magnuse hiya jcamins
14:07 magnuse finally got the mesh imported and indexed, after editing the wrong zebra config file for a while...
14:08 magnuse it's at and login: demo/demo if you want to have a look
14:10 jcamins Is weird CSS on the OPAC a known issue on that server?
14:11 jcamins "1,2-Dipalmitoylphosphatidylcholine metabolism" -- exactly what I wanted to learn about.
14:16 jcamins Twelve bugs left to sign off on.
14:17 jcamins Unfortunately, I don't think any of them are ones I can do.
14:17 cait jcamins: how do you construct that list?
14:17 jcamins cait: I counted.
14:17 cait by which criteria? :)
14:18 jcamins I counted the number of bugs that were versioned for master.
14:18 cait ok
14:18 magnuse hm, not sure why it looks like that - it's the current squeeze-dev package straight out of the box, i think
14:19 jcamins Bug 9050, bug 8746, bug 9049, bug 9033, bug 9017, bug 8984, bug 8918, bug 8896, bug 5801, bug 4481, bug 9019, bug 8562
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9050 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , rebuild_zebra should use the adelete action so it doesn't fail when deleting a record not in the index
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8746 major, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , don't work where Record length of 106041 is larger than the MARC spec allows
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9049 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , rebuild_zebra should not use shadow when called with -r
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9033 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Wide character error in
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9017 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Quote of the day: Table footer not translated
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8984 normal, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Needs Signoff , Zebra does not index some fields in UNIMARC biblio records
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8918 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , ILS-DI: HoldTitle and HoldItem do not calculate rank of hold
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8896 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Delete serials no more missing from missinglist
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5801 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , C4::Circulation::_GetCircControlBranch doesn't work in
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4481 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, koha.sekjal, Needs Signoff , Search's Limit to Available filters out many available items
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9019 minor, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , ILS-DI: GetRecords should return item fields in marcxml
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8562 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , RandomizeHoldsQueueWeight ignored if StaticHoldsQueueWeight is empty.
14:19 jcamins It's missing reset-font-grids.
14:20 jcamins Why is it missing reset-font-grids?
14:20 jcamins I have them.
14:22 jcamins Ah, because squeeze-dev is out of date?
14:22 jcamins No, doesn't look particularly out of date.
14:23 jcamins Do you have reset-font-grids on your system?
14:57 magnuse lemme check
14:58 magnuse i have /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en/css/reset-fonts-grids.css
14:58 jcamins Really?
14:58 jcamins That's not where it should be.
14:59 magnuse it was moved out of the en path?
15:00 jcamins Yup.
15:00 jcamins However, I can confirm that's not where squeeze-dev puts it.
15:01 jcamins Well, the version on
15:02 jcamins Building a new package as a test...
15:02 magnuse yay
15:12 jcamins I'm still have trouble with CHI. I should see if I can figure out how to make it recommended rather than required.
15:20 magnuse might be a good idea, yeah
15:21 jcamins Oh, figured out the installation location thing.
15:25 magnuse yay!
15:31 jcamins This is very odd.
15:31 jcamins Vim froze.
15:31 jcamins On a 10-line file.
15:32 magnuse maybe it was offended by being fed such a miniscule file?
15:33 * cait nods
15:35 jcamins lol
15:36 jcamins Bother.
15:36 jcamins I found the problem with the CSS files, but I can't fix it.
15:37 magnuse huh?
15:37 jcamins I know why reset-font-grids is missing.
15:37 jcamins I just don't know how to make it not missing.
15:43 jcamins I think I figured out the Recommends thing, though. :D
15:43 magnuse it can't be missing, just not in the right place?
15:43 jcamins Right.
15:43 jcamins But when I tried to put it in the right place, it didn't work.
15:44 magnuse ah
15:44 jcamins We do something special to put it in the wrong place, and I don't understand why.
15:44 magnuse in debian/rules or something?
15:45 jcamins Exactly right. :)
15:46 magnuse looks like it does "install -m 0644 koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/lib/yui/skin.css" twice
15:51 magnuse oh once for opac, once for intranet
15:55 pastebot "magnuse" at pasted "pure speculation..." (24 lines) at
15:55 jcamins magnuse: that's what I tried.
15:56 magnuse and it didn't work?
15:56 jcamins Nope.
15:56 jcamins Once I finish regenerating debian/control I'll try again.
15:58 jcamins Ohh.
15:58 jcamins I think I figured it out.
15:58 jcamins Yes, of course.
15:58 jcamins YUI was moved only on the OPAC.
15:59 jcamins So when I updated both lines, naturally it didn't work.
16:00 magnuse if you say so :-)
16:00 jcamins Hm.
16:01 jcamins libhttp-cookies-perl is uninstallable with my updated debian/control.
16:10 jcamins Oh-ho!
16:10 * jcamins solves the mystery.
16:10 magnuse jcamins++
16:12 jcamins Ohhhh.
16:12 jcamins Okay, this is a problem.
16:12 jcamins I don't think the packages are going to work on Quantal.
16:13 magnuse quantal?
16:13 jcamins The next version of Ubuntu.
16:13 jcamins I'm not entirely clear how they worked on 12.04, to be honest, now that I understand the problem.
16:15 jcamins It would seem that Ubuntu reorganized the Perl packages.
16:15 magnuse ouch
16:15 magnuse sorry, i gotta run
16:15 magnuse have fun #koha
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16:19 * wajasu going over a run-thru of current koha master with librarian today with their DB loaded. is ICU usable?
16:19 cait yes
16:19 wajasu ok.
16:19 cait well jcamins might now something I am not aware of
16:19 cait but we have been using the old way of doing it in production for a few years now and I think the new option should work fine too
16:20 cait it can be that it conflicts with some of the other search features, but if you need icu... it doesn't matter so much
16:20 jcamins Yes, ICU works fine.
16:20 jcamins You just have to disable fuzzy searching.
16:20 wajasu ok.
16:25 jcamins Ugh.
16:26 cait what did you find this time?
16:27 jcamins I feel like given the number of Debian and Ubuntu installs, and the more-or-less interchangeable of the two distros, it cannot possibly be the case that one cannot build .deb packages on Ubuntu for anything other than the version of Ubuntu being run on the host.
16:27 jcamins Unfortunately, all signs point to my feeling being wrong.
16:29 cait um
16:29 cait it will be fine?
16:37 jcamins Ah-ha. I think I have found a workaround.
16:43 jcamins Nope. I can't fix bug 9052.
16:43 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9052 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , YUI assets installed in the wrong place by packages
18:35 jcamins liw: if you happen to pop by at any point, I need some pointers on the Recommends: directive in debian/control. I can't seem to make it do anything.
18:47 jcamins liw: and while I am imposing upon you, any hints regarding how to build i386 and amd64 binary packages on the same machine would be most welcome. I am convinced it has to be possible, since I can find instructions for building ARM packages.
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18:55 cait wb :)
18:56 druthb :)
18:58 jcamins Right... I understand why eythian didn't set up Recommends.
19:01 jcamins You have to choose between the package working everywhere, and the package making sense.
19:02 cait oh
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20:09 liw jcamins, Recomments -- what do you need it to do? if you add the header, apt-get is supposed to install the packages by default (unless the sysadmin has configured it to not do that)
20:10 liw jcamins, but not that that requires that apt-get is installing from an apt repository, it doesn't work with dpkg -i
20:11 liw jcamins, for building i386 and amd64 both: build with pbuilder, by creating two different basetgz tar archives, one for each architecture, using the --archiecture and --basetgz options to --create
20:11 jcamins liw: I knew the latter had to be possible.
20:11 jcamins Thanks.
20:12 liw no worries
20:13 jcamins liw: I wanted to divide the required and optional dependencies out.
20:13 cait I closed 9027 - hope it's ok
20:14 jcamins The fact that dpkg doesn't give you any way to retrieve a list of Recommended packages makes me think that's not a good idea, though.
20:14 liw jcamins, *nod* Depends for anything Koha must have to work, Recommends for anything that almost everyone wants to have to get a good Koha experience, and Suggests for anything that might be nice from time to tome
20:16 jcamins I'm thinking of adding postfix to Suggests, though.
20:16 liw jcamins, installing with dpkg is rarely a good idea,though, since it never drags in the dependencies, like apt-get does
20:16 jcamins dpkg doesn't install dependencies ever?
20:17 jcamins I thought I was doing it wrong.
20:17 liw dpkg only instlals the packages you give it on the command line
20:17 jcamins Hm.
20:17 jcamins Okay, in that case maybe the lack of Recommends listing isn't such an issue.
20:18 jcamins Though- is there no way to retrieve that information from a package file?
20:18 jcamins As far as I can tell from the documentation, there is no program that allows you to do arbitrary queries on the control file.
20:19 liw dpkg --info foo.deb ?
20:19 jcamins It doesn't show anything in Recommends.
20:19 jcamins It goes from Depends to Suggests.
20:20 liw and you added them when building?
20:20 jcamins I tried, anyway.
20:20 liw what does your debian/control file look like?
20:21 jcamins Let me check it in so it's visible on the git server.
20:23 jcamins liw:[…]209159a52f0de08d1
20:23 jcamins I moved the Recommends to the individual packages because it complained when it was in the first paragraph.
20:24 liw yep, recommends (and depends and suggests) are for the binary packages; the first paragraph is for the source package
20:26 liw that debian/control file looks fine to me
20:26 liw let me try building
20:27 cait liw++ and jcamins++ :)
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20:40 liw hm, I don't have all the build deps, and it's too late in the evening to create a VM or chroot for trying this, but... I don't see why the Recommends would not end up in the .deb
20:40 liw jcamins, I can have a look again some other day if you don't figure it out yourself
20:45 jcamins liw: thanks.
20:47 wajasu if you get a test pkg this weekend, or have them in a dep repo, i might be able to test on monday in a fresh VM.
20:48 cait :)
20:48 jcamins wajasu: the problem is I can't seem to build a package that works.
20:48 jcamins Or, at least, not one that admits to working.
20:51 wajasu oh.  i haven't done it yet either.  i only got as far as creating my custom VM with pbuilder and friends.  i might give your control file a try though
20:51 jcamins Building packages is really easy.
20:51 jcamins I did it a dozen times today.
20:51 jcamins Building packages that include the Recommends field is not.
20:51 jcamins It just kind of vanishes.
20:51 wajasu oh
20:56 cait melia++
20:56 cait @karma melia
20:56 huginn cait: Karma for "melia" has been increased 8 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 8.
21:01 wajasu FYI: Recommends       is only used in front end to dpkg (apt-get, aptitude, and dselect)
21:06 boris-semat Does anyone know if there are any plans to allow for z39 connections with databases in the koha OPAC?
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21:08 jcamins wajasu: yeah, I know.
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21:08 jcamins boris-semat: what do you mean? Federated search over Z39.50 is already supported by Koha using PazPar2
21:09 boris-semat I mean in order to make it the OPAC more like a discovery interface
21:09 boris-semat so when I submit a search in the catalog I get articles, books, ebooks and so forth and then click the record and actually link out to them
21:11 wajasu what about the OAH stuff.
21:13 boris-semat I beg your pardon, but is OAH something open access?
21:14 cait wahanui: i think you mean OAI-PMH
21:14 wahanui cait: huh?
21:14 cait hm, wajasu :)
21:14 wajasu OAI-PMH maybe, is an interface i recall seeing in koha, for harvesting the metadata.
21:14 cait but that works only the other direction- koha being harvested for records, not pulling htem in
21:14 jcamins boris-semat: you could use federated searching for that.
21:15 jcamins boris-semat: if your license allowed you to.
21:15 jcamins Which it probably wouldn't.
21:18 boris-semat well what about using something like serial solutions link 360
21:19 boris-semat I still couldn't get it into the koha catalog the way it is, correct?
21:19 jcamins Link 360 offers completely separate functionality.\
21:19 jcamins It's an OpenURL resolver.
21:20 boris-semat I know 360 is kind of the middle man in the connection, correct?
21:22 cait yeah, but I think you still need the actual record with the link to be resolved
21:22 jcamins Yes.
21:22 jcamins There's an open source OpenURL resolver called Umlaut.
21:23 jcamins Well, it's sort of an OpenURL resolver.
21:23 jcamins Sort of not.
21:23 jcamins Okay, it's hard to categorize.
21:24 boris-semat lol
21:24 boris-semat is the OPAC capable of displaying this information correctly?
21:25 boris-semat or will I need a different interface like VuFind
21:25 jcamins What information?
21:25 wahanui information is, like, within the field, not the subfield 009_@_
21:25 jcamins ILS OPAC != OpenURL Resolver
21:27 boris-semat federated searching, database selection options, full text options in advanced search...things like that
21:27 jcamins Federated search, yes.
21:28 jcamins I don't think the user can select databases.
21:28 jcamins As for full text options, that depends entirely on the Z39.50 interface your provider gives you.
21:28 cait wahanui: forget informaton
21:28 wahanui cait, I didn't have anything matching informaton
21:28 jcamins information?
21:28 wahanui information is probably within the field, not the subfield 009_@_
21:28 cait wahanui: forget information
21:28 wahanui cait: I forgot information
21:28 cait typo :)
21:28 jcamins wahanui: forget information
21:28 wahanui jcamins, I didn't have anything matching information
21:28 jcamins Oh.
21:29 jcamins Right. :)
21:57 wajasu i'm doing that i'm doing the process where i delete all my auth_header recs and touch_all_biblios with AutoCreateAuthorites=generate and BiblioAddsAuthorites=allow.
21:58 wajasu after touch_all_biblios i don't see any auth_headers.
21:58 wajasu maybe its because i turned fuzzy off for ICU.
22:12 jcamins wajasu: no, searching has nothing to do with touchallbiblios.
22:12 jcamins Not sure what the problem would be, though.
22:13 wajasu a few weeks ago i ran touchallbiblios and i got generated authorities.  i wonder if modbiblio changed or i have a syspref not set.  i'll scour the code some more.
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