Time  Nick         Message
01:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #937 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:19 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8931' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=239a5f76cb9082c0b7653e37449f5ea5a13ed3ad> / Bug 8931 [Follow-up] submit buttons have blue background <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6f69e809b4fb3c61e6797c9f9b9a2245ea3541fa> / Bug 9010 - Follou up Quote of the day: Umlauts do not display correctly <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?
01:51 jcamins      Does anyone around have an install of master handy?
02:05 jcamins      Don't all answer at once...
02:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #937: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/937/
02:21 jenkins_koha * serhijdubyk: Bug 9010 - Quote of the day: Umlauts do not display correctly Added utf8-encoding in json-header for correct view quotes in quotes editor.
02:21 jenkins_koha * veron: Bug 9010 - Follou up Quote of the day: Umlauts do not display correctly
02:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8931 [Follow-up] submit buttons have blue background
02:21 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9010 blocker, P5 - low, ---, dubyk, Pushed to Master , Quote of the day: Umlauts do not display correctly
02:21 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8931 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , submit buttons have blue background
02:22 jcamins      Unstable?
02:22 wahanui      it has been said that Unstable is sid
02:22 jcamins      Oh.
02:23 jcamins      @later tell rangi Can you run the updatedatabase on jenkins?
02:23 huginn       jcamins: The operation succeeded.
02:25 jcamins      @later tell rangi I have an addition for the 3.8.7 release notes. Could you put in really big letters "YOU MUST REINDEX YOUR BIBLIOS IF YOU ARE USING DOM INDEXING OR DISASTER WILL ENSUE!!!!" somewhere near the top?
02:25 huginn       jcamins: The operation succeeded.
02:39 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8996' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a1bba47177d086aa804b61a47387a8686b9dca13> / Bug 8996: In result page items with negative notforloan are available <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=24216136f4cdfe308e165af7450d3471cd8bc98e> / Merge branch 'bug_6428' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commi
02:39 rangi        back
02:41 jcamins      Whoah.
02:41 jcamins      I love it when a plan comes together.
02:41 rangi        heh
02:41 jcamins      My search: "madam president"
02:41 jcamins      Top suggestion: "Did you mean: Women presidential candidates"
02:41 jcamins      Yes yes yes!
02:41 rangi        nice
02:42 jcamins      That is 100% relevant to this search.
02:42 jcamins      And I have no clue how it came up.
02:42 jenkins_koha Starting build #938 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #936 21 hr ago)
02:43 jcamins      And then I killed Plack.
02:44 rangi        heh
02:49 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5490: smsoverdues.pl is an orphan <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c75cb8686cff336ee18e963f64fd73704b89bae6>
02:51 jcamins      Well, darn.
02:51 jcamins      I ran out of disk space.
02:51 jcamins      No.
02:51 jcamins      I ran out of Zebra space.
02:52 rangi        ah yeah
02:53 jcamins      Thankfully it was the shadow that failed.
02:53 rangi        hm i think ill change Highlights
02:53 rangi        to Major fixes
02:53 rangi        for maintenance releases anyway
02:53 jcamins      Well, darn. It erased the register even though the shadow had failed.
02:55 jcamins      Why do we bother with shadow if we're just going to wipe the register anyway?
02:55 jcamins      (rhetorical question)
02:55 jcamins      That makes sense to me, Major fixes instead of Highlights.
02:59 jcamins      Wow, yeah, I can confirm that we erase the indexes *prior* to preparing the shadow index when -r is specified.
03:00 rangi        yeah we like to punch ourselves in the face
03:00 jcamins      Actually, this is only mostly our fault.
03:01 jcamins      Oh you have got to be kidding me!
03:02 * jcamins    bangs his head on the table, hoping this will make rebuild_zebra less... poor.
03:02 jcamins      No.
03:02 jcamins      No luck.
03:03 jcamins      We still made a conscious decision to use a dangerous delete operation when a safe alternative existed.
03:05 rangi        yep
03:05 rangi        another legacy of liblime
03:05 * jcamins    hides under his desk, hoping that if he stays there stupid decisions won't come out of the woodwork to taunt him.
03:07 rangi        another couple of releases and we should have got rid of most of the crazy code that snuck in that era
03:12 jcamins      zebraidx init is a problem.
03:12 jcamins      A big problem.
03:12 wahanui      rumour has it a big problem is that I forgot where I had left off, although, I could try to see from a diff
03:13 jcamins      I see no way around the fact that rebuild_zebra.pl -r is inherently dangerous.
03:28 jcamins      Right, given that there's no way to avoid erasing the index, I suggest that we're better off disabling shadow for reindexing.
03:31 * jcamins    does it.
03:50 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #938: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/938/
03:50 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8988: item status uses authorized value description for intranet
03:50 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 7921: Software error while placing order
03:50 jenkins_koha * nunyo: Bug 6428 - refered column 'items.coded_location_qualifier' does not exist
03:50 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 6428: Increment version number
03:50 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8996: In result page items with negative notforloan are available
03:51 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8988 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , item status uses authorized value description for intranet
03:51 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7921 major, P3, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Software error while placing order
03:51 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6428 normal, P2, ---, nunyo, Pushed to Master , refered column 'items.coded_location_qualifier' does not exist
03:51 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8996 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , In result page items with negative notforloan are available
03:52 jenkins_koha Starting build #939 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #936 23 hr ago)
03:52 jcamins      Still unstable?
03:52 wahanui      well, unstable is sid
03:55 jcamins      rangi: any idea what could be going wrong there?
03:55 jcamins      It passes on my system.
03:55 rangi        what test is failing?
03:56 rangi        hm a bunch of them
03:56 jcamins      t/db_dependent/Items.t and t/db_dependent/Reserves.t
03:56 rangi        and Record
03:56 jcamins      Oh, that's still failing too?
03:56 rangi        yep
03:57 jcamins      Hm.
03:57 jcamins      Oh, I see. It only lists new failures.
03:57 rangi        fixed items
03:57 rangi        that was another update needed
03:57 jcamins      What was the problem?
03:57 jcamins      Ah.
03:57 rangi        Upgrade to 3.09.00.064 done (Bug 6428: Added coded_location_qualifier to the items table)
03:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6428 normal, P2, ---, nunyo, Pushed to Master , refered column 'items.coded_location_qualifier' does not exist
03:58 rangi        ditto reserves
03:58 rangi        record is still failing
03:58 rangi        ok 7 - testing marcQualified
03:58 rangi        I/O warning : failed to load HTTP resource
03:58 rangi        compilation error: file /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2MODS3-1.xsl element include
03:58 rangi        xsl:include : unable to load http://www.loc.gov/marcxml/xslt/MARC21slimUtils.xsl
03:59 jcamins      Oh.
03:59 jcamins      Yes, LC's server is down.
03:59 rangi        that'd do it
03:59 jcamins      That's going to keep on failing until Tuesday.
03:59 rangi        for 4 days or something
03:59 jcamins      Yeah.
03:59 rangi        what century do we live in again
03:59 jcamins      lol
03:59 rangi        libraries ... special snowflakes :)
04:13 rangi        hmm bug 9046
04:13 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9046 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Items are not exported with the tools/export.pl
04:14 jcamins_away rangi: I think that's command-line only.
04:14 jcamins_away (the problem)
04:14 rangi        yep, just tested
04:27 rangi        hmm new committer
04:28 rangi        that will make 195
04:35 * druthb     does a happy-geek dance
04:37 druthb       http://www.librarygeekgirl.net/links/ is now being populated from my Google Reader subscriptions, automagically.
04:37 * druthb     wrote the plugin to do that, based on some bits and pieces she found elsewhere.
05:01 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #939: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/939/
05:01 jenkins_koha jcamins: Bug 5490: smsoverdues.pl is an orphan
05:01 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5490 trivial, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, Pushed to Master , Is smsoverdues.pl an orphan
08:55 amirseni     hi
08:57 amirseni     Greetings, anyone available to help me out?
08:57 amirseni     Got a problem with diacritics showing up as a white question mark on black  on the opac and staff interface
10:03 WaylonR      hiya all
10:03 WaylonR      damn, missed the meeting, oh well.
10:03 WaylonR      Anyway guys, problem..... Undefined subroutine &C4::Koha::GetBranchesCount called at /usr/local/apps/koha/kohadev/C4/Koha.pm line 782.
10:05 WaylonR      okay, ive done some development work... but GetBranchesCount exists in C4::Branch correctly, and use C4::Branch qw(GetBranchesCount); exists in C4:Koha;
10:59 WaylonR      hmm.. using C4:Branch::GetBranchesCount works, instead of just having GetBranchesCount;
11:02 slef         is GetBranchesCount in @EXPORT
11:03 slef         oh wait, read scrollback
11:03 slef         :)
11:03 WaylonR      yes
11:03 WaylonR      so yea.. quite odd.
11:03 * WaylonR    shrugs
11:03 WaylonR      some one can look at the patch i submit and figure it out.
11:04 WaylonR      wow.. this whole multiple branch/branch security mod is hmm... almost done.
11:04 slef         WaylonR: sounds interesting. What's it do?
11:05 WaylonR      Just got to add a dropdown to the extendedattributes.
11:05 WaylonR      okay. 1. Allows multiple branches to be assigned to a patron using Borrower Extended Attributes.
11:05 WaylonR      multiple branchcodes
11:06 WaylonR      so the usual home 'branchcode' and then in the borrower_attributes table, more branchcode
11:06 slef         WaylonR: I know one library wanting to switch to IndependentBranches, to stop branches messing with each others' patrons, but there's that big scary warning about not changing that post-installation (which I don't remember why). Could this help them?
11:06 WaylonR      yeah... don't see why not.
11:08 WaylonR      2. My patch gives three settings. All - no change to normal koha. preferhome - at the start of every search, home branch is selected automatically, secure - only branches in ones patron record are searchable, and only the ones in the record, appear to be searchable.
11:08 WaylonR      so secure, both filters GetBranches and the actual search limit itself.
11:08 WaylonR      so no one can fudge the dice.
11:08 WaylonR      erm... .... hack around it.
11:08 * WaylonR    is a D&D player.
11:09 WaylonR      i.e limit=branch:B will not show B's results, unless you actually have B in your patron record.
11:10 WaylonR      in fact, in the next page, Branch:b will not exist in the cgi line.
11:11 WaylonR      3. Multiple branches can be selected via a dropdown in advanced search, to add branches to the limit... limiting the search to only those branches.
11:12 WaylonR      In this manner, a huge library, with smaller libraries within, can reserve libraries for certain patrons.
11:13 WaylonR      Or one Koha server can serve multiple libraries, all independant and unaware of each other, from a patrons point of view.
11:13 WaylonR      Unless a patron has access to more than one library of course.
11:13 WaylonR      makes sense, slef ?
11:21 WaylonR      okay, heres another problem... how to differentaite the branchcode extended attribute, so i can splice jquery <options> into it? or do i need to change it in code and template prehaps? hmmm.
11:35 WaylonR      better said, how do i create a extendedattribute with multiple choice options?
12:17 * cait       waves at WaylonR before running out again
12:30 WaylonR      hey cait
12:31 WaylonR      my multibranch mod is semi-complete.
12:31 cait         cool :)
12:31 WaylonR      want it?
12:31 cait         yeah, it sounds cool
12:32 WaylonR      cool.. whats your email?
12:32 cait         ah
12:32 cait         sorry, no time to test I think
12:32 WaylonR      ah.. right true
12:32 cait         but i am looking forward to see it in koha :)
12:32 cait         are you at a stage where you can submit your patches to bugzilla? or a branch?
12:33 * WaylonR    nods. yeah.. looking for a virgin to test it on. hmm... I think this mod is pretty standalone., so using one cherrypick/patch, i think it can be brought into a koha.
12:34 cait         are you familiar with the process for submits?
12:35 cait         your feature should be based on current master, you put the patch on your bug and then set it to needs sign-off with testing instructions and a description
12:35 WaylonR      hmm...
12:35 WaylonR      okay, so need to make a bug/feature report first.
12:35 cait         yep :)
12:35 cait         that's the first step :)
12:36 cait         set version to master
12:36 * WaylonR    has been using his own bugzilla.
12:36 WaylonR      well.. git pull would handle an update yes?
12:36 cait         hm or 3.12 - not quite sure wha tis better right now
12:36 WaylonR      after commit, or before?
12:36 cait         WaylonR: hm?
12:37 cait         I think I wou.d do a git pull on your master branch
12:37 cait         and then you hopefully have your feature on a topic branch :)
12:37 WaylonR      hmm?
12:37 cait         you could to a git rebase origin/master there
12:37 WaylonR      yes, feature is in a feature branch.
12:37 WaylonR      ahhh
12:37 cait         or you could checkout a new branch from master and cherry pick
12:37 cait         there are different ways to do it
12:37 WaylonR      okay.. so first step... is commiting this code to its feature branch.
12:38 WaylonR      git commit -m "blah" right? its been a few weeks since i used that command.
12:38 cait         yeah or just git commit and then put in your subject and the description in the editor
12:38 cait         first line will be the subject
12:38 cait         don't forget to git add the changed files first
12:45 WaylonR      whew... 8 added files.. to support the jquery multichoice dropdown.
12:45 WaylonR      hmm.... thinking it could be easier if i install Xorg onto my remote devbox.
12:46 cait         hm not sure if it was easier, I odn't use git gui tools
12:46 cait         but I may hav emisunderstood you anyway :)
12:47 WaylonR      Xorg yes, gui.
12:47 * WaylonR    is just lazy, and its almost 2am.
12:48 WaylonR      does git add wildcards work?
12:48 WaylonR      like git add dropdown*
12:48 WaylonR      ?
12:50 cait         yep
12:50 cait         git add installer/*
12:51 cait         you could also do git add --all if you are very sure that all changed files are only for that one feature
12:51 * WaylonR    nods. okay... think i added everything that needs to be committed..
12:53 WaylonR      commit looks good...
12:53 jcamins_away Make sure you include a detailed test plan.
12:54 WaylonR      right... ah.. how do i get back to my master branch?
12:54 cait         git checkout master?
12:54 jcamins_away git checkout master
12:54 WaylonR      then git pull?
12:55 WaylonR      then switch back to my feature branch, then rebase
12:55 jcamins_away If you want to do a pull, sure.
12:55 WaylonR      git pull, brings in the changes since last update yes?
12:55 jcamins_away You want to rebase your feature branch?
12:56 jcamins_away Yes, it does, but there's a better way to do it.
12:56 jcamins      Check out the feature branch.
12:56 jcamins      Run `git fetch`
12:56 WaylonR      ah..
12:56 WaylonR      k.
12:56 jcamins      Then run `git rebase origin/master` (replacing "origin" with whatever you called your remote)
12:57 jcamins      For more safety, delete the master branch.
12:57 WaylonR      huh? delete the master branch?
12:57 WaylonR      why?
12:58 * cait       is curious about that too :)
12:58 jcamins      Because you can't accidentally make changes on a branch that doesn't exist.
12:59 WaylonR      uh.... how could i make changes to master, when i am careful to git status before committing?
12:59 jcamins      By mistake.
12:59 WaylonR      and why is git fetch, better than git pull?
13:00 jcamins      One day you will forget to run git status.
13:00 jcamins      Rebasing on the remote branch safeguards you from any problems in your local repo.
13:01 jcamins      Having done this several hundred times I can tell you that you _will_ accidentally commit a patch to the wrong branch at some point.
13:01 jcamins      If you're lucky you'll notice it right away.
13:01 WaylonR      git rebase origin/master
13:01 jcamins      Most likely you won't.
13:01 jcamins      Right.
13:01 WaylonR      warning: refname 'origin/master' is ambiguous.
13:02 jcamins      ...
13:03 jcamins      Right, here's a perfect example of what I'm talking about.
13:03 jcamins      You managed to create a branch called origin/master.
13:04 WaylonR      hmm.
13:04 jcamins      I don't know how to fix it.
13:04 jcamins      You could try `git branch -D origin/master && git fetch origin` but I have no idea what the end result would be.
13:05 jcamins      This is why any branch with a name like "master" gives me the heebie-jeebies.
13:05 jcamins      One mistake, and a tired developer could easily fail to rebase their code onto what they wanted to, and never know.
13:06 WaylonR      yeah.. thats f'ed up... changed to my master.. my feature branch commit appears on top of the master, after git fetch, git rebase origin/master
13:07 WaylonR      as if i cherry-picked it in.
13:07 jcamins      Okay, that's good.
13:07 WaylonR      huh?
13:08 jcamins      You can simply rename the branch.
13:09 jcamins      You didn't end up with the most common result, which is a merge and your commit somewhere in the middle.
13:09 WaylonR      odd thing is, i didn't cherrypick it.
13:09 WaylonR      so.. how did it happen?
13:09 jcamins      No, you committed your change to master to begin with.
13:09 cait         you committed it to the wrong branch I guess
13:09 cait         there are some tools out there that make the branch you are on visible on your bash line
13:09 cait         I use that
13:09 cait         it's very helpful
13:10 cait         it also shows if I have uncommited changes
13:10 cait         well not tools actually
13:10 cait         but some code you can put in your  bashrc file
13:11 WaylonR      thats odd.. i commited it to the correct branch.
13:11 WaylonR      but it went into master too.
13:12 cait         maybe you had commited it earlier?
13:12 WaylonR      and its in origin/master
13:13 WaylonR      ... duh.
13:13 jcamins      There are two options here: 1) you aren't actually looking at all these branches, or 2) you committed the code to master prior to branching.
13:13 WaylonR      by typing git branch origin/master, i created origin/master
13:13 jcamins      Yes.
13:13 WaylonR      when i should of used git checkout master
13:13 jcamins      `git branch X` is not something you should ever run.
13:14 jcamins      Well- I have never had a use for it.
13:14 WaylonR      yes.. so i have now got a few branches to delete.
13:14 WaylonR      git branch -D <branchname> ?
13:16 WaylonR      jcamins, ?
13:16 wahanui      jcamins, is there something identifiably unique about them?
13:16 jcamins      Yes.
13:16 WaylonR      thanks.
13:17 WaylonR      hmm....  how do i remove an accidental commit to a branch? obviously, i didn't want the mod commited to my master branch... but i ended up creating a new master branch, overwriting my old master branch..
13:17 cait         git reset --soft HEAD1
13:17 cait         um HEAD^
13:17 WaylonR      or would it be easier to delete master, and origin/master, and have a local_master git pulled?
13:17 cait         for one
13:17 cait         soft will uncommit, --hard will kill it
13:18 jcamins      WaylonR: it would be better to not have a master branch at all in my opinion.
13:18 * jcamins    was just saying this sort of thing happens All. The. Time.
13:18 WaylonR      then... how do you create a new feature branch, without a master to base it on?
13:18 jcamins      git checkout -b bug_whatever origin/master
13:19 WaylonR      sounds like it pulls the entire origin/master again?
13:19 WaylonR      lots of downloading?
13:19 jcamins      No.
13:19 jcamins      You have to run git fetch occasionally.
13:20 jcamins      But you have to update your master branch before starting a new development every time anyway.
13:20 WaylonR      so.... it caches origin/master, without needing a branch to sit in?
13:20 jcamins      Right.
13:20 jcamins      You have a copy of the entire origin repository.
13:21 WaylonR      ive accidently created a origin/master branch.. will deleting it, delete that copy?
13:23 jcamins      I have no idea.
13:23 WaylonR      eep.
13:23 jcamins      I don't think you have a choice, though.
13:23 jcamins      Without deleting that branch, you can't do any more development, nor submit the code you ahve.
13:23 jcamins      *have
13:23 WaylonR      right.
13:24 WaylonR      will deleting that branch, affect the commits that are in other branches?
13:25 jcamins      No.
13:27 WaylonR      okay done.
13:28 WaylonR      git reset --soft HEAD will reset a branch back to remote/origin/master, but other branches will still have the commits ive committed to them yes?
13:29 WaylonR      it just uncommits from THIS branch.. not actually deletes the commit from all branches?
13:30 jcamins      http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-reset.html
13:39 WaylonR      okay.. just bit the bullet and deleted master
13:39 WaylonR      went back to multibranch mod.. and rebased
13:39 WaylonR      woo.. found conflicts.
13:45 WaylonR      okay... resolved conflicts.. did git status.. its not on a branch..
13:46 jcamins      Did you follow the instructions it gave you about rebasing?
13:49 WaylonR      git checkout to a different branch.
13:49 WaylonR      git branch -D master
13:49 WaylonR      git fetch
13:49 WaylonR      git rebase origin/master
13:49 jcamins      Right, when you ran `git rebase origin/master` it gave you a bunch of instructions.
13:51 WaylonR      when one uses git rebase, and gets a conflict, one normally ends up on (no branch) ?
13:54 jcamins      Not if one follows the instructions.
13:54 jcamins      When you are resolving the conflict you will not be on any branch.
13:54 WaylonR      ahh
13:55 jcamins      However, if you follow the instructions you were given about how to rebase, you will end up with everything rebased on your branch.
13:59 WaylonR      woot! got it.
13:59 WaylonR      rebased
13:59 WaylonR      Yay!
13:59 WaylonR      now i can go to bed.
14:00 WaylonR      night all!
14:00 WaylonR      thanks heaps jcamins
14:02 jcamins      You're welcome.
14:07 magnuse      hiya jcamins
14:07 magnuse      finally got the mesh imported and indexed, after editing the wrong zebra config file for a while...
14:08 magnuse      it's at http://marc21.testing.bibkat.no/ and http://marc21.testing.bibkat.no:8080/ login: demo/demo if you want to have a look
14:10 jcamins      Is weird CSS on the OPAC a known issue on that server?
14:11 jcamins      "1,2-Dipalmitoylphosphatidylcholine metabolism" -- exactly what I wanted to learn about.
14:16 jcamins      Twelve bugs left to sign off on.
14:17 jcamins      Unfortunately, I don't think any of them are ones I can do.
14:17 cait         jcamins: how do you construct that list?
14:17 jcamins      cait: I counted.
14:17 cait         by which criteria? :)
14:18 jcamins      I counted the number of bugs that were versioned for master.
14:18 cait         ok
14:18 magnuse      hm, not sure why it looks like that - it's the current squeeze-dev package straight out of the box, i think
14:19 jcamins      Bug 9050, bug 8746, bug 9049, bug 9033, bug 9017, bug 8984, bug 8918, bug 8896, bug 5801, bug 4481, bug 9019, bug 8562
14:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9050 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , rebuild_zebra should use the adelete action so it doesn't fail when deleting a record not in the index
14:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8746 major, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , rebuild_zebra_sliced.sh don't work where Record length of 106041 is larger than the MARC spec allows
14:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9049 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , rebuild_zebra should not use shadow when called with -r
14:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9033 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Wide character error in runreport.pl
14:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9017 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Quote of the day: Table footer not translated
14:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8984 normal, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Needs Signoff , Zebra does not index some fields in UNIMARC biblio records
14:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8918 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , ILS-DI: HoldTitle and HoldItem do not calculate rank of hold
14:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8896 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Delete serials no more missing from missinglist
14:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5801 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , C4::Circulation::_GetCircControlBranch doesn't work in opac-reserve.pl
14:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4481 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, koha.sekjal, Needs Signoff , Search's Limit to Available filters out many available items
14:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9019 minor, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , ILS-DI: GetRecords should return item fields in marcxml
14:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8562 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , RandomizeHoldsQueueWeight ignored if StaticHoldsQueueWeight is empty.
14:19 jcamins      It's missing reset-font-grids.
14:20 jcamins      Why is it missing reset-font-grids?
14:20 jcamins      I have them.
14:22 jcamins      Ah, because squeeze-dev is out of date?
14:22 jcamins      No, doesn't look particularly out of date.
14:23 jcamins      Do you have reset-font-grids on your system?
14:57 magnuse      lemme check
14:58 magnuse      i have /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en/css/reset-fonts-grids.css
14:58 jcamins      Really?
14:58 jcamins      That's not where it should be.
14:59 magnuse      it was moved out of the en path?
15:00 jcamins      Yup.
15:00 jcamins      However, I can confirm that's not where squeeze-dev puts it.
15:01 jcamins      Well, the version on debian.k-c.org.
15:02 jcamins      Building a new package as a test...
15:02 magnuse      yay
15:12 jcamins      I'm still have trouble with CHI. I should see if I can figure out how to make it recommended rather than required.
15:20 magnuse      might be a good idea, yeah
15:21 jcamins      Oh, figured out the installation location thing.
15:25 magnuse      yay!
15:31 jcamins      This is very odd.
15:31 jcamins      Vim froze.
15:31 jcamins      On a 10-line file.
15:32 magnuse      maybe it was offended by being fed such a miniscule file?
15:33 * cait       nods
15:35 jcamins      lol
15:36 jcamins      Bother.
15:36 jcamins      I found the problem with the CSS files, but I can't fix it.
15:37 magnuse      huh?
15:37 jcamins      I know why reset-font-grids is missing.
15:37 jcamins      I just don't know how to make it not missing.
15:43 jcamins      I think I figured out the Recommends thing, though. :D
15:43 magnuse      it can't be missing, just not in the right place?
15:43 jcamins      Right.
15:43 jcamins      But when I tried to put it in the right place, it didn't work.
15:44 magnuse      ah
15:44 jcamins      We do something special to put it in the wrong place, and I don't understand why.
15:44 magnuse      in debian/rules or something?
15:45 jcamins      Exactly right. :)
15:46 magnuse      looks like it does "install -m 0644 koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/lib/yui/skin.css" twice
15:51 magnuse      oh once for opac, once for intranet
15:55 pastebot     "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "pure speculation..." (24 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/266
15:55 jcamins      magnuse: that's what I tried.
15:56 magnuse      and it didn't work?
15:56 jcamins      Nope.
15:56 jcamins      Once I finish regenerating debian/control I'll try again.
15:58 jcamins      Ohh.
15:58 jcamins      I think I figured it out.
15:58 jcamins      Yes, of course.
15:58 jcamins      YUI was moved only on the OPAC.
15:59 jcamins      So when I updated both lines, naturally it didn't work.
16:00 magnuse      if you say so :-)
16:00 jcamins      Hm.
16:01 jcamins      libhttp-cookies-perl is uninstallable with my updated debian/control.
16:10 jcamins      Oh-ho!
16:10 * jcamins    solves the mystery.
16:10 magnuse      jcamins++
16:12 jcamins      Ohhhh.
16:12 jcamins      Okay, this is a problem.
16:12 jcamins      I don't think the packages are going to work on Quantal.
16:13 magnuse      quantal?
16:13 jcamins      The next version of Ubuntu.
16:13 jcamins      I'm not entirely clear how they worked on 12.04, to be honest, now that I understand the problem.
16:15 jcamins      It would seem that Ubuntu reorganized the Perl packages.
16:15 magnuse      ouch
16:15 magnuse      sorry, i gotta run
16:15 magnuse      have fun #koha
16:19 * wajasu     going over a run-thru of current koha master with librarian today with their DB loaded. is ICU usable?
16:19 cait         yes
16:19 wajasu       ok.
16:19 cait         well jcamins might now something I am not aware of
16:19 cait         but we have been using the old way of doing it in production for a few years now and I think the new option should work fine too
16:20 cait         it can be that it conflicts with some of the other search features, but if you need icu... it doesn't matter so much
16:20 jcamins      Yes, ICU works fine.
16:20 jcamins      You just have to disable fuzzy searching.
16:20 wajasu       ok.
16:25 jcamins      Ugh.
16:26 cait         what did you find this time?
16:27 jcamins      I feel like given the number of Debian and Ubuntu installs, and the more-or-less interchangeable of the two distros, it cannot possibly be the case that one cannot build .deb packages on Ubuntu for anything other than the version of Ubuntu being run on the host.
16:27 jcamins      Unfortunately, all signs point to my feeling being wrong.
16:29 cait         um
16:29 cait         it will be fine?
16:37 jcamins      Ah-ha. I think I have found a workaround.
16:43 jcamins      Nope. I can't fix bug 9052.
16:43 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9052 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , YUI assets installed in the wrong place by packages
18:35 jcamins      liw: if you happen to pop by at any point, I need some pointers on the Recommends: directive in debian/control. I can't seem to make it do anything.
18:47 jcamins      liw: and while I am imposing upon you, any hints regarding how to build i386 and amd64 binary packages on the same machine would be most welcome. I am convinced it has to be possible, since I can find instructions for building ARM packages.
18:55 cait         wb :)
18:56 druthb       :)
18:58 jcamins      Right... I understand why eythian didn't set up Recommends.
19:01 jcamins      You have to choose between the package working everywhere, and the package making sense.
19:02 cait         oh
20:09 liw          jcamins, Recomments -- what do you need it to do? if you add the header, apt-get is supposed to install the packages by default (unless the sysadmin has configured it to not do that)
20:10 liw          jcamins, but not that that requires that apt-get is installing from an apt repository, it doesn't work with dpkg -i
20:11 liw          jcamins, for building i386 and amd64 both: build with pbuilder, by creating two different basetgz tar archives, one for each architecture, using the --archiecture and --basetgz options to --create
20:11 jcamins      liw: I knew the latter had to be possible.
20:11 jcamins      Thanks.
20:12 liw          no worries
20:13 jcamins      liw: I wanted to divide the required and optional dependencies out.
20:13 cait         I closed 9027 - hope it's ok
20:14 jcamins      The fact that dpkg doesn't give you any way to retrieve a list of Recommended packages makes me think that's not a good idea, though.
20:14 liw          jcamins, *nod* Depends for anything Koha must have to work, Recommends for anything that almost everyone wants to have to get a good Koha experience, and Suggests for anything that might be nice from time to tome
20:16 jcamins      I'm thinking of adding postfix to Suggests, though.
20:16 liw          jcamins, installing with dpkg is rarely a good idea,though, since it never drags in the dependencies, like apt-get does
20:16 jcamins      dpkg doesn't install dependencies ever?
20:17 jcamins      I thought I was doing it wrong.
20:17 liw          dpkg only instlals the packages you give it on the command line
20:17 jcamins      Hm.
20:17 jcamins      Okay, in that case maybe the lack of Recommends listing isn't such an issue.
20:18 jcamins      Though- is there no way to retrieve that information from a package file?
20:18 jcamins      As far as I can tell from the documentation, there is no program that allows you to do arbitrary queries on the control file.
20:19 liw          dpkg --info foo.deb ?
20:19 jcamins      It doesn't show anything in Recommends.
20:19 jcamins      It goes from Depends to Suggests.
20:20 liw          and you added them when building?
20:20 jcamins      I tried, anyway.
20:20 liw          what does your debian/control file look like?
20:21 jcamins      Let me check it in so it's visible on the git server.
20:23 jcamins      liw: http://git.cpbibliography.com/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=debian/control;h=f13016833258eb79fb0896109eb94f5074e41716;hb=3c84d10a261414c057b7a5a209159a52f0de08d1
20:23 jcamins      I moved the Recommends to the individual packages because it complained when it was in the first paragraph.
20:24 liw          yep, recommends (and depends and suggests) are for the binary packages; the first paragraph is for the source package
20:26 liw          that debian/control file looks fine to me
20:26 liw          let me try building
20:27 cait         liw++ and jcamins++ :)
20:40 liw          hm, I don't have all the build deps, and it's too late in the evening to create a VM or chroot for trying this, but... I don't see why the Recommends would not end up in the .deb
20:40 liw          jcamins, I can have a look again some other day if you don't figure it out yourself
20:45 jcamins      liw: thanks.
20:47 wajasu       if you get a test pkg this weekend, or have them in a dep repo, i might be able to test on monday in a fresh VM.
20:48 cait         :)
20:48 jcamins      wajasu: the problem is I can't seem to build a package that works.
20:48 jcamins      Or, at least, not one that admits to working.
20:51 wajasu       oh.  i haven't done it yet either.  i only got as far as creating my custom VM with pbuilder and friends.  i might give your control file a try though
20:51 jcamins      Building packages is really easy.
20:51 jcamins      I did it a dozen times today.
20:51 jcamins      Building packages that include the Recommends field is not.
20:51 jcamins      It just kind of vanishes.
20:51 wajasu       oh
20:56 cait         melia++
20:56 cait         @karma melia
20:56 huginn       cait: Karma for "melia" has been increased 8 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 8.
21:01 wajasu       FYI: Recommends       is only used in front end to dpkg (apt-get, aptitude, and dselect)
21:06 boris-semat  Does anyone know if there are any plans to allow for z39 connections with databases in the koha OPAC?
21:08 jcamins      wajasu: yeah, I know.
21:08 jcamins      boris-semat: what do you mean? Federated search over Z39.50 is already supported by Koha using PazPar2
21:09 boris-semat  I mean in order to make it the OPAC more like a discovery interface
21:09 boris-semat  so when I submit a search in the catalog I get articles, books, ebooks and so forth and then click the record and actually link out to them
21:11 wajasu       what about the OAH stuff.
21:13 boris-semat  I beg your pardon, but is OAH something open access?
21:14 cait         wahanui: i think you mean OAI-PMH
21:14 wahanui      cait: huh?
21:14 cait         hm, wajasu :)
21:14 wajasu       OAI-PMH maybe, is an interface i recall seeing in koha, for harvesting the metadata.
21:14 cait         but that works only the other direction- koha being harvested for records, not pulling htem in
21:14 jcamins      boris-semat: you could use federated searching for that.
21:15 jcamins      boris-semat: if your license allowed you to.
21:15 jcamins      Which it probably wouldn't.
21:18 boris-semat  well what about using something like serial solutions link 360
21:19 boris-semat  I still couldn't get it into the koha catalog the way it is, correct?
21:19 jcamins      Link 360 offers completely separate functionality.\
21:19 jcamins      It's an OpenURL resolver.
21:20 boris-semat  I know 360 is kind of the middle man in the connection, correct?
21:22 cait         yeah, but I think you still need the actual record with the link to be resolved
21:22 jcamins      Yes.
21:22 jcamins      There's an open source OpenURL resolver called Umlaut.
21:23 jcamins      Well, it's sort of an OpenURL resolver.
21:23 jcamins      Sort of not.
21:23 jcamins      Okay, it's hard to categorize.
21:24 boris-semat  lol
21:24 boris-semat  is the OPAC capable of displaying this information correctly?
21:25 boris-semat  or will I need a different interface like VuFind
21:25 jcamins      What information?
21:25 wahanui      information is, like, within the field, not the subfield 009_@_
21:25 jcamins      ILS OPAC != OpenURL Resolver
21:27 boris-semat  federated searching, database selection options, full text options in advanced search...things like that
21:27 jcamins      Federated search, yes.
21:28 jcamins      I don't think the user can select databases.
21:28 jcamins      As for full text options, that depends entirely on the Z39.50 interface your provider gives you.
21:28 cait         wahanui: forget informaton
21:28 wahanui      cait, I didn't have anything matching informaton
21:28 jcamins      information?
21:28 wahanui      information is probably within the field, not the subfield 009_@_
21:28 cait         wahanui: forget information
21:28 wahanui      cait: I forgot information
21:28 cait         typo :)
21:28 jcamins      wahanui: forget information
21:28 wahanui      jcamins, I didn't have anything matching information
21:28 jcamins      Oh.
21:29 jcamins      Right. :)
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21:57 wajasu       i'm doing that i'm doing the process where i delete all my auth_header recs and touch_all_biblios with AutoCreateAuthorites=generate and BiblioAddsAuthorites=allow.
21:58 wajasu       after touch_all_biblios i don't see any auth_headers.
21:58 wajasu       maybe its because i turned fuzzy off for ICU.
22:12 jcamins      wajasu: no, searching has nothing to do with touchallbiblios.
22:12 jcamins      Not sure what the problem would be, though.
22:13 wajasu       a few weeks ago i ran touchallbiblios and i got generated authorities.  i wonder if modbiblio changed or i have a syspref not set.  i'll scour the code some more.