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rangi |
zomg |
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rangi |
please, just stop |
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Judit |
morning |
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rangi |
hi Judit |
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how is spring treating you dow there, rangi? |
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rangi |
officially hasnt started yet, but isn't too bad so far |
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druthb |
o/ |
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rangi |
hi druthb |
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druthb |
hi, rangi! :) |
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bag |
heya druthb |
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bag |
rangi - howdy |
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druthb |
hi, bag. :) |
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bag |
oh whoops it's bath time - guess I'll catch you all later |
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bag |
mtj? |
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wahanui |
DeM KraZy NutZ!! |
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bag |
w00t there it is |
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rangi |
heh |
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rangi |
bug 8597 signed off |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8597 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Signed Off , New theme for the OPAC with a mobile view |
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Woohoo! |
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mona |
Error; your data might not have been saved You need to log in again, your session has timed out |
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mona |
can somebody pleae help me in this |
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cait |
it would normally show that if you haven't done anything in a longer time or if you click the back browser button in ie |
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cait |
what do you need help with? |
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cait |
does logging in again not work? |
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druthb |
cait++ |
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mona |
no actually in system preference i changes the timeout option to 1d |
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rangi |
that's the problem, you need to change that in the database, 1d doesnt work |
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mona |
after that it is getting timeout every second |
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mona |
meaning that i am not able to do a single thing |
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mona |
it logins and shows session timeout |
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mona |
pls help please |
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rangi |
update systempreferences set value='120000' where variable='timeout'; |
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rangi |
you need to run that in your database, the documentation is wrong, you can't use 1d |
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mona |
i did it but its not saving Error; your data might not have been saved You need to log in again, your session has timed out |
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rangi |
you need to do it in the database |
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rangi |
not in koha |
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rangi |
did you log into mysql, into your koha database and run that sql? |
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mona |
atually someone has setup the pc installed for me |
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rangi |
they will need to do that for you then |
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mona |
can u guide me how to run mysql in ubuntu |
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mona |
please |
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mona |
if u will guide i will do it |
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rangi |
i have to go catch a bus home now sorry |
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mona |
just guide me how to start pls |
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mona |
Error; your data might not have been saved You need to log in again, your session has timed out can anybody help |
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waves |
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cait-m__ |
hi irma |
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Irma |
hello cait-m How are you? |
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alex_a |
bonjour #koha |
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Oak |
Bonjour Monsieur alex_a |
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alex_a |
Salut Oak ! |
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drojf |
good morning #koha |
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WaqarAzeem |
Hello! Along with Perl... is there any framework is also used? like python with django for web apps. |
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alex_a |
WaqarAzeem: You mean with koha ? |
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alex_a |
WaqarAzeem: hello |
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WaqarAzeem |
yeah! |
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WaqarAzeem |
Perl used as the programming language for Koha. I am wondering how to setup an local environment to play around with it. |
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alex_a |
WaqarAzeem: I'm not sure to understand your question :s |
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WaqarAzeem |
it's ok |
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alex_a |
Okay! |
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alex_a |
:) |
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alex_a |
WaqarAzeem: It would be nice to make koha works on a framework such as perl Dancer i.e. But i've tried to do this and it's very hard ! |
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alex_a |
:) |
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WaqarAzeem |
nice effort... |
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magnuse |
kia ora paul_p! |
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paul_p |
good morning #koha |
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drojf |
bonjour paul_p |
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drojf |
hei magnuse |
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paul_p |
still 100 mails to deal with before i'm back to pushing patches ... |
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rangi |
can i get a test please, www.library.org.nz working ok? |
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drojf |
website is loading. anything else to try? |
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rangi |
nope thats all i needed |
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drojf |
76508 results for a search for "a" |
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drojf |
ok |
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rangi |
(been shifting servers) |
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rangi |
wanted to check all resolving good for the outside world |
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magnuse |
rangi: works from norway too :-) maybe a little faster than it used to be too? |
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rangi |
should be on a faster piece of internet |
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magnuse |
yay |
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rangi |
i hate printers |
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drojf |
why is that? |
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rangi |
they never work |
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rangi |
in any kind of predictable manner |
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drojf |
rangi: i'm afraid i have to agree, from my experience. but i mostly blame kde if something stops working for me |
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drojf |
hm. it appears my solar charge controller does not give out enough current on the usb connection to power the raspberry pi. still no self sustaining koha in a box :( |
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rangi |
:( |
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drojf |
fun fact: each progress bar in the process of staging and importing marc records via tools in koha seems to be broken in a different way |
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rangi |
hmm all comcast ppl have been suspended for excessive bounces, 9 of them |
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rangi |
however the one that is still bouncing must be subscribed under something else, and that address redirects |
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drojf |
tricky |
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drojf |
could that be found in the email headers somewhere maybe? |
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rangi |
yep found it eventually |
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drojf |
yay |
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rangi |
that's that sorted |
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drojf |
rangi++ |
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rangi |
hows stuttgart eythian ? |
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eythian |
dunno, only just arrived, the train was late |
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rangi |
ahhh |
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rangi |
how long before the workshop starts? |
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eythian |
Setting up now, probably in 5-10 |
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drojf |
late? deutsche bahn? never! |
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rangi |
good luck |
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eythian |
drojf: we determined that it was your fault |
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drojf |
eythian: i can live with that :P |
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Barrc1 |
Morning..... I am starting to look at publishing multiple OPACs (limited to library, CSS unique etc) and wondering if this is just a straight forward virtualhost config? Anyone have any gotchas or experience with this!? |
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drojf |
Barrc1: multiple opacs for one database? or multiple koha installations? |
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Barrc1 |
drojf: Multiple for one Koha instance (sorry, should have been clearer!) |
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drojf |
i think you can create several instances of koha using the same db. having just one koha instance with multiple opacs sounds not like something you can achieve easily. but that's more my feeling, i never thought about doing that. maybe others have some ideas |
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Barrc1 |
it looks like you can set overrides in the virtual hosts and use host headers to resolve to the correct site - seems straight forward but I haven't tried it yet! |
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* magnuse |
wishes eythian and kf the best of luck - have fun! |
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drojf |
kf is not even logged in to the irc. serious business |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn |
drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 21.7°C (11:43 AM CEST on August 28, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 13.0°C (11:50 AM CEST on August 28, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
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drojf |
what's a good summer termperature for bodø? i've only seen it in winter |
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magnuse |
drojf: well, we expect to have a few days over 20C during a summer |
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magnuse |
anything above 15 is good |
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drojf |
heh. i like how people cope with that. when i've been to umeå everybody was running around in tshirts when it was 15°. they celebrate the summer they get :) |
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magnuse |
yup, that's how we stay sane ;-) |
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* eythian |
has completed his first talk |
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rangi |
cool :) did it go ok? |
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eythian |
I think it did, though I'm biased :) |
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eythian |
cait says it did, but I don't know if she's trustworthy |
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eythian |
(she's watching me type!) |
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rangi |
hehe |
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cait |
hi all |
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rangi |
hi cait |
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eythian |
hi mveron |
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mveron |
hi eythian |
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drojf |
hi mveron |
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drojf |
how is the workshop going? |
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drojf |
i hope you did not plan to look at sandboxes tomorrow |
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eythian |
why? |
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eythian |
oh |
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Oak |
yup :) |
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mveron |
hi drojf, it is very interesting. |
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* magnuse |
waves to cait and eythian |
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magnuse |
i love it when customers report problems that there is already a fix for - this time it was bug 8251 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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drojf |
hi oleonard |
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* wizzyrea |
waves |
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oleonard |
Hi wizzyrea |
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nengard |
does anyone know if the new routing lists tab on the patron record in master is controlled by a preference? does it go away if you have no routing lists? |
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* nengard |
is working on the manual again |
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oleonard |
It doesn't go away if you have no routing lists |
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oleonard |
I'm guessing it's not controlled by a pref because I didn't turn one on and I see the tab. |
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oleonard |
And it violates capitalization guidelines :P |
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* oleonard |
wishes, again, for serials sample data |
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nengard |
oleonard i can give you my serials ? |
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oleonard |
nengard: I would gratefully accept |
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nengard |
it's not much |
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nengard |
and it's a bit messy :) but I'll send you a dump |
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eythian |
wah<tab>...damn |
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eythian |
wahanui: hello |
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wahanui |
what's up, eythian |
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oleonard |
Magic. |
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eythian |
germs? |
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wahanui |
Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
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eythian |
slides? |
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wahanui |
kf should be writing slides. Get to it! Schnell! |
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eythian |
no wahanui, slides is kf has written her slides. |
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wahanui |
okay, eythian. |
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wizzyrea |
schnell. |
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eythian |
wahanui: schnell is <reply>I know nozink! |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
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* wizzyrea |
giggles |
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eythian |
wizzyrea: when do you hit civilisation? |
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wizzyrea |
October 29 :) |
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eythian |
Øarsome |
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oleonard |
Eh? |
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eythian |
You heard me, oleonard |
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drojf |
can i skip MARC21 field 100 etc if i make a dummy entry to hang other biblios on? or will MARC come to get me? |
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jcamins_away |
drojf: 1xx fields are optional. |
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drojf |
cool, thanks jcamins_away |
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drojf |
btw, you are not really away |
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jcamins_away |
drojf: sort of away. What are you trying to do? |
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oleonard |
He is drojf, but he's shouting from far away |
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drojf |
lol oleonard |
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reiveune1 |
bye |
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drojf |
jcamins_away: we have dvds with several titles. i want to have a parent titled "dvd XY" or something and link the "real" titles of the videos to the parent. so the parent has one item, the children have none, so people know they cannot get "video a" if it is on the same disk as "video b" and that disk is borrowed. does that make sense? |
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jcamins_away |
Yes, what does the 1xx have to do with anything? |
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jcamins_away |
You're describing analytics. |
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jcamins_away |
And specifically the EasyAnalytics use case. |
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drojf |
i try to keep the parent as minimal as possible. since there is not a single author for all the videos, i would prefer to have none for the parent. and was wondering wether that would make marc mad |
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wizzyrea |
drojf: that was the way koha was originally designed, until we put MARC in and broke it. |
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wizzyrea |
:( |
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wizzyrea |
(as I understand it) |
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jcamins_away |
Got it. |
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jcamins_away |
drojf: that's the correct way to do things. |
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wizzyrea |
NEKLS has a similar problem with things like TV series DVD's |
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jcamins_away |
But use EasyAnalytics to make the patrons happy. |
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wizzyrea |
some of our libraries split up the sets |
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wizzyrea |
and it was confusing for patrons |
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wizzyrea |
when they had items on the same set |
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wizzyrea |
for different discs |
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wizzyrea |
because since we don't allow item specific holds, they would request a hold for Breaking Bad (for example) and be wanting disc 2, but they would get disc 1 because they couldn't specify which disc to get. |
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wizzyrea |
very, very frustrating for patrons. |
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drojf |
jcamins_away: the data is not even in koha yet. as long as i get it in "somehow" I am happy, that might have to be enough happiness :D |
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wizzyrea |
so we finally cataloged them all separately |
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wizzyrea |
breaking bad, season one, disk 1 |
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wizzyrea |
disc* |
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wizzyrea |
<items> |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea: Around here we call that the "pride and prejudice" problem after the multi-volume VHS set popular several years ago |
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drojf |
heh not sure what we are going to do with those because people don't like whole season boxes go away for weeks |
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wizzyrea |
and those records are separate from the ones where libraries choose not to split them up |
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wizzyrea |
so you can get "breaking bad, season one (full set)" |
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wizzyrea |
which is discrete from "breaking bad, season one, disc 1" |
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wizzyrea |
how did you solve it, oleonard? |
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oleonard |
We didn't |
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wizzyrea |
I think our method works ok - it muddies up the catalog but at least it's good for the patrons |
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wizzyrea |
if they want disc *, they can get it |
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wizzyrea |
and if there is a full set, they can get that too. |
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wizzyrea |
ah the joys of collaborating 42 public libraries. |
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wizzyrea |
in one system |
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drojf |
lol |
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oleonard |
We didn't solve the problem, but we also don't split up DVD sets, so the problem is lesser now that VHS is going away |
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wizzyrea |
^^ I would prefer this, but some libraries, concerned about the sets being out for weeks, want to split them |
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wizzyrea |
so we let them, but make them do extra work. :P |
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oleonard |
Maybe if we did that too I'd have gotten to see some Game of Thrones by now |
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wizzyrea |
sorry jcamins, it had not occurred to me (and it is quite brilliant) to use analytics for that |
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wizzyrea |
of course it is brilliant. ;) |
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* oleonard |
guesses he'll have to learn what analytics are for now |
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jcamins_away |
oleonard: someone did this presentation on analytics for KohaCon12... |
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wizzyrea |
hehe oleonard re: game of thrones |
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oleonard |
jcamins_away: If only there was a way to save a "re-cording" of that time and somehow play it back in the present |
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drojf |
heh |
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jcamins_away |
oleonard: http://archive.org/details/Koh[…]ticRecordsAndKoha |
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jcamins_away |
Sadly I can't figure out how to tell the site that it's a movie not audio. |
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nengard |
anyone know if Koha is compliant with Open URL? |
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nengard |
what about SRU/WRW |
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nengard |
SRW |
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nengard |
oleonard i have info in the manual about what analytics are |
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jcamins_away |
nengard: OpenURL requires an outside link resolver. Koha does handle SRU/SRW. |
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jcamins_away |
nengard: you can insert the link resolver using jQuery, pulling the information required from CoINs. |
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oleonard |
On the left, the record staged in Koha. On the right, the .mrc file in MarcEdit: http://screencast.com/t/aixGrcN1Ae |
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oleonard |
What's going on? |
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oleonard |
Did we get bad MARC data from our vendor? Is Koha interpreting the data incorrectly? |
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jcamins_away |
oleonard: you imported it as UTF-8 when it was actually MARC-8. |
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jcamins_away |
MarcEdit defaults to MARC-8, and Koha defaults to UTF-8. |
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jcamins_away |
I think. |
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jcamins_away |
I might have it backwards, but I don't think so. |
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oleonard |
Okay, so re-importing and specifying MARC-8 corrected that record. |
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jcamins_away |
\o/ |
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jcamins_away |
^^ the MARC must die dance |
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oleonard |
There's another record which is the same either way. In MarcEdit the author looks like "Th?y, Kim" And the same in Koha after import |
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jcamins_away |
They mixed MARC-8 and UTF-8. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8268' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1ed2ca80cbe80289f> / Bug 8268: improve error checking <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3a694c5c6e6208b72> / Bug 8268 follow-up: rewrite config correctly <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]h=d944df2272b0fbe |
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Oak |
jcamins++ |
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jcamins_away |
? |
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Oak |
paul_p++ |
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jcamins_away |
@karma |
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huginn |
jcamins_away: Highest karma: "rangi" (643), "oleonard" (537), and "jcamins" (383). Lowest karma: "<!" (-111), "failed" (-93), and "-" (-59). You (jcamins_away) are ranked 58 out of 2197. |
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Oak |
your knowledge about stuff always astonishes me jcamins_away :) |
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oleonard |
Yes, jcamins_away++ |
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jcamins_away |
Ooh, I'm catching up with you, oleonard! |
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jcamins_away |
@karma jcamins_away |
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huginn |
jcamins_away: Karma for "jcamins_away" has been increased 15 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 15. |
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oleonard |
jcamins_away: I'll keep being unhelpful if that would help |
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* oleonard |
explodes in paradox |
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Oak |
funny |
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jcamins_away |
Hehe. |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #802 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 1 mo 25 days ago) |
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Oak |
thsi is very very good, Van Morrison - Sweet Thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eK1aQF60xc |
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Oak |
@later tell Brooke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eK1aQF60xc |
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huginn |
Oak: The operation succeeded. |
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Oak |
@later tell cait https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eK1aQF60xc |
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huginn |
Oak: The operation succeeded. |
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oleonard |
It would be cool if git bz apply checked for dependent bugs. Then I wouldn't make dumb mistakes like forgetting to apply another patch first. :| |
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* oleonard |
tests Bug 5888 for real now |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5888 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , opac-detail subject/author links improvements |
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jcamins_away |
oleonard: ooh, good idea. |
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oleonard |
jcamins_away: Shouldn't 5888 have a system pref to turn it on and off? |
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jcamins_away |
oleonard: probably. |
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* jcamins_away |
was particularly concerned with the functionality that was moved to bug 8210. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8210 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Headings in OPAC bib details should link to authority record |
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wizzyrea |
we want to match modify/import batches of records for catalog cleanup - what, do you think, on a light load catalog, is the maximum number you'd want to do at one time to keep zebra happy? |
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wizzyrea |
(assuming you're not going to do them all at once, and let the zebraqueue handle them) |
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wizzyrea |
(i.e. not just doing a full reindex for each batch) |
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wizzyrea |
or would a full reindex be a better route? |
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martian523 |
hi, just a quick question |
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martian523 |
has koha set up the hourly circulation policies yet? |
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martian523 |
or is it still under construction? |
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maximep |
hourly loans are in 3.8 |
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martian523 |
really? maybe i missed it, i'm using 3.8 |
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maximep |
look in circulation rules |
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maximep |
you should have hours unit |
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martian523 |
thanks |
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martian523 |
ok...now i have another one |
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martian523 |
in circulation rules, there are 3 reference in "type" |
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martian523 |
but when editing item, there's only 1 reference |
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martian523 |
what happened to the other 2? |
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martian523 |
never mind |
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martian523 |
i found the answer |
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martian523 |
sorry! |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #802: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/802/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* jonathan.druart: Bug 8607: FIX overdues_notices script: $date is not replaced |
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jenkins_koha |
* julian.maurice: Bug 8495: Fix JS error when creating a new order |
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jenkins_koha |
* fridolyn.somers: Bug 8576: Software error on authority edition when using merge |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8268 follow-up: rewrite config correctly |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8268: improve error checking |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8607 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , overdue_notices is broken |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8495 blocker, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Javascript error when creating a new order |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8576 critical, P2, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Software error on authority edition when using merge |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8268 enhancement, P2, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha should offer way to backup entire db |
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nengard |
okay, silly question, how can i find out what my highest barcode number is? I tried a report sorting by barcode desc and it's not working ? |
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nengard |
when my barcode generator gives me a code it's always 3.89924798249022e+19 and i want to update my highest number so that stops |
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nengard |
unless i'm on the wrong track |
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oleonard |
The sort should work. What do you get instead of the highest number? |
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nengard |
hang on i'll do a paste |
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jcamins_away |
nengard: SELECT MAX(barcodes) from items |
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jcamins_away |
Or MAX(barcode) or whatever the field is. |
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pastebot |
"oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Top barcodes" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/141 |
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oleonard |
^^ that's some awesome barcode garbage I have |
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pastebot |
"nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "see the 3rd to last number - it's not in order and these can't be the highest numbers if that's what's happening with my auto barcode generator thingy :)" (18 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/142 |
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nengard |
oleonard, i fixed those :) |
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nengard |
after i gave you the dump |
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jcamins_away |
Right, you can't do a sort on barcode. |
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oleonard |
Oh those aren't yours, those are all mine :) |
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jcamins_away |
Barcode is a string. |
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nengard |
nuh uh - those are what i had when i first wrote the report |
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jcamins_away |
Also, MAX() with strings does weird things. |
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nengard |
right |
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nengard |
the number it gave me is not super high |
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jcamins_away |
There was a ticket about that with Masscat. |
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nengard |
how about a count of characters |
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nengard |
what is the max number of characters allowed? |
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nengard |
and can i query any codes above that? |
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oleonard |
Oh you're right nengard I had my dbs switched |
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nengard |
:) |
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oleonard |
xx226648-108820 instead :) |
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jcamins_away |
nengard: the database can't store more than the maximum number of characters. |
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jcamins_away |
Your problem barcode is literally "3.89924798249022e+18" or something like that. |
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nengard |
mysql> select barcode from items where barcode like '3.899%'; |
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nengard |
Empty set (0.00 sec) |
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jcamins_away |
Use SELECT MAX(barcode) |
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jcamins_away |
I should mention- if you're *lucky* that barcode exists. |
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jcamins_away |
If you're not lucky, I suggest going through the database's pockets and looking for loose change. |
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pastebot |
"nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "i bet the one that is 20 char in length is the problem" (20 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/143 |
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wizzyrea |
the last time I tried to get a max barcode, I got "SPECIAL ITEM NO BARCODE" as the result (or something like) |
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wizzyrea |
not helpful ;) |
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jcamins_away |
wizzyrea: sounds about right. |
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nengard |
i did the max thing and got a number that was not long at all |
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pastebot |
"nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "thing i found the culprit" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/144 |
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wizzyrea |
then I limited to branch and that was much nicer. |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea: Sounds like my staff, who like to put in the phone number field "No phone" |
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jcamins_away |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a14a0;hb=HEAD#l95 |
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wizzyrea |
argle bargle bargle blarg |
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jcamins_away |
nengard: ^^ the offending code. |
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jcamins_away |
Try MAX(ABS(barcode)) |
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* jcamins_away |
notes this is why Excel is evil. |
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wajasu |
drojf: i think you mentioned being interested in my postfix email client setup. so I've pasted some config for reference. |
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pastebot |
"wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "notes for configuring "null" email client for koha outgoing email" (345 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/145 |
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nengard |
fixed it :) |
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nengard |
it was that 20 character barcode |
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* oleonard |
thanks jcamins_away for pointing out that "argle bargle bargle blarg" is offending code |
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drojf |
wow. thanks wajasu |
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wajasu |
it worked with my bug 8378 patch, which hopefully gets sign off |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8378 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore |
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nengard |
jcamins i never did pin point my authority problem ? i re-ran the linker and it won't link my name authorities (not asking for help right now - just an fyi) |
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jcamins_away |
Odd. |
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jcamins_away |
I'll run the linker against my database again when I'm looking at authority linking next. |
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* gmcharlt |
has a guess - checks something to confirm |
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wajasu |
rangi: i know we spoke about some sort of functional or integrated tests a few days back. i was able to use geb-spock (aka groovy based selenium2 webdriver specs) to login to koha and verifiy we arrive at the home page with firefox. |
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wajasu |
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wajasu |
I also, got fitnesee running to call groovy based fixtures. So we could have non-programmers write tests in fitnesse web pages. |
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wajasu |
then use fitnesse to verify that database row entries are correct in the backend. |
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wajasu |
i looked into a perl slim protocol driver, and that could be done later if you wanted, because you said unit tests were fine. |
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wajasu |
fitnesse is a wiki for writing high level tests. devs can write fixtures to enable the tests. fitnesse has a git plugin, so writing a test, adds the files inthe git directories to the git repo. so they get checked in with the branch, etc. |
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wajasu |
if this could be set up, we could push slower workflow of test-fail-test-fail-signoff to writetest-code-failtest-code-passtest-test-signoff-passqa. devs would need to pass test before they checkin/push/supply patch code. |
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jcamins_away |
wajasu: that only works as well as your users' motivation to write tests. |
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wajasu |
as a signer, could we not write a test when a patch fails then refer to it for them to pass/adjust for the next cycle? or when complex functionality is wanted (acquisitions, etc). you are right. writing tests is hard, but decoupling is hard. |
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jcamins_away |
wajasu: true. |
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jcamins_away |
wajasu: I think it's an excellent idea, just pointing out that a workflow of writetest-code-failtest-code-passtest-test-signoff-passqa is a little bit overly optimistic. ;) |
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rangi |
Morning |
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oleonard |
Hi rangi |
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rangi |
@wunder nzwn |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0°C (7:00 AM NZST on August 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Rising). |
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rangi |
Spring |
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rangi |
Hmm Jenkins still angry |
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rangi |
Better sooth him soon |
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rangi |
Or he will go postal |
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* wizzyrea |
read that "better scotch him soon" |
| 19:45 |
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wizzyrea |
yes, give him booze. that makes all butlers happy |
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rangi |
Hehe |
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rangi |
Ok my stop bbiab |
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oleonard |
Bye #koha |
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rangi |
back |
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wajasu |
rangi: to prevent repeating myself. http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]2-08-28#i_1061550 |
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rangi |
cool |
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pastebot |
"wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "using geb-spock to test koha gui using firefox" (112 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/146 |
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jcamins_away |
wajasu: don't suppose we could use Perl with that? |
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wajasu |
i was going to write a perl slim port to let us call perl code. then you can test sevices, modules, sub routines. |
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wajasu |
once its set up, folks just write specs in the fitness wiki. the wiki specs are saved to a directory in the git repo. the step definitions/fixtures can be written in groovy. with a perl slim server port, you can write perl based fixtures for the same fitness tests. |
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jcamins_away |
wajasu: but people need to use the wiki to write Python? |
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wajasu |
to write specs in the fitnesse wiki markup. language independent. slim protocol sends strings/lists with simple protoocl to slim server that is written in java, ruby, perl(TODO), and the tests are executed, with results coming back to the fitnesse webbrowser. |
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i'm just wondiering what you guys want/need in testing. you have unit tests. you can already mock. its integration tests that use all the tiers (gui, service, api, database) that you can prove at release time to prevent regressions. |
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wajasu: exactly. It's the complete stack that needs testing. |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8495 blocker, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Stable , Javascript error when creating a new order |
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