Time Nick Message 00:19 rangi zomg 00:19 rangi please, just stop 00:23 Judit morning 00:23 rangi hi Judit 00:24 Judit how is spring treating you dow there, rangi? 00:24 rangi officially hasnt started yet, but isn't too bad so far 02:00 druthb o/ 02:08 rangi hi druthb 02:08 druthb hi, rangi! :) 02:22 bag heya druthb 02:22 bag rangi - howdy 02:22 druthb hi, bag. :) 02:23 bag oh whoops it's bath time - guess I'll catch you all later 02:23 bag mtj? 02:23 wahanui DeM KraZy NutZ!! 02:23 bag w00t there it is 02:23 rangi heh 02:27 rangi bug 8597 signed off 02:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8597 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Signed Off , New theme for the OPAC with a mobile view 02:29 jcamins_away Woohoo! 04:25 mona Error; your data might not have been saved You need to log in again, your session has timed out 04:26 mona can somebody pleae help me in this 04:27 cait it would normally show that if you haven't done anything in a longer time or if you click the back browser button in ie 04:27 cait what do you need help with? 04:27 cait does logging in again not work? 04:28 druthb cait++ 04:28 mona no actually in system preference i changes the timeout option to 1d 04:28 rangi that's the problem, you need to change that in the database, 1d doesnt work 04:28 mona after that it is getting timeout every second 04:29 mona meaning that i am not able to do a single thing 04:29 mona it logins and shows session timeout 04:29 mona pls help please 04:30 rangi update systempreferences set value='120000' where variable='timeout'; 04:30 rangi you need to run that in your database, the documentation is wrong, you can't use 1d 04:32 mona i did it but its not saving Error; your data might not have been saved You need to log in again, your session has timed out 04:32 rangi you need to do it in the database 04:32 rangi not in koha 04:32 rangi did you log into mysql, into your koha database and run that sql? 04:34 mona atually someone has setup the pc installed for me 04:34 rangi they will need to do that for you then 04:34 mona can u guide me how to run mysql in ubuntu 04:34 mona please 04:34 mona if u will guide i will do it 04:35 rangi i have to go catch a bus home now sorry 04:36 mona just guide me how to start pls 05:16 mona Error; your data might not have been saved You need to log in again, your session has timed out can anybody help 06:01 * cait-m__ waves 06:03 cait-m__ hi irma 06:03 Irma hello cait-m How are you? 06:27 alex_a bonjour #koha 06:28 Oak Bonjour Monsieur alex_a 06:28 alex_a Salut Oak ! 06:33 drojf good morning #koha 07:03 WaqarAzeem Hello! Along with Perl... is there any framework is also used? like python with django for web apps. 07:07 alex_a WaqarAzeem: You mean with koha ? 07:07 alex_a WaqarAzeem: hello 07:12 WaqarAzeem yeah! 07:15 WaqarAzeem Perl used as the programming language for Koha. I am wondering how to setup an local environment to play around with it. 07:17 alex_a WaqarAzeem: I'm not sure to understand your question :s 07:18 WaqarAzeem it's ok 07:20 alex_a Okay! 07:20 alex_a :) 07:22 alex_a WaqarAzeem: It would be nice to make koha works on a framework such as perl Dancer i.e. But i've tried to do this and it's very hard ! 07:22 alex_a :) 07:33 WaqarAzeem nice effort... 07:53 magnuse kia ora paul_p! 07:53 paul_p good morning #koha 07:53 drojf bonjour paul_p 07:53 drojf hei magnuse 07:53 paul_p still 100 mails to deal with before i'm back to pushing patches ... 08:20 rangi can i get a test please, www.library.org.nz working ok? 08:21 drojf website is loading. anything else to try? 08:21 rangi nope thats all i needed 08:21 drojf 76508 results for a search for "a" 08:21 drojf ok 08:21 rangi (been shifting servers) 08:22 rangi wanted to check all resolving good for the outside world 08:24 magnuse rangi: works from norway too :-) maybe a little faster than it used to be too? 08:25 rangi should be on a faster piece of internet 08:25 magnuse yay 08:38 rangi i hate printers 08:41 drojf why is that? 08:41 rangi they never work 08:41 rangi in any kind of predictable manner 08:41 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @mikromarc: "The Bibits AS Daily is out! http://t.co/Ys8A4TGL ▸ Top stories today via @toremor @kohails" 08:44 drojf rangi: i'm afraid i have to agree, from my experience. but i mostly blame kde if something stops working for me 08:48 drojf hm. it appears my solar charge controller does not give out enough current on the usb connection to power the raspberry pi. still no self sustaining koha in a box :( 08:48 rangi :( 08:50 drojf fun fact: each progress bar in the process of staging and importing marc records via tools in koha seems to be broken in a different way 08:51 rangi hmm all comcast ppl have been suspended for excessive bounces, 9 of them 08:52 rangi however the one that is still bouncing must be subscribed under something else, and that address redirects 08:53 drojf tricky 08:54 drojf could that be found in the email headers somewhere maybe? 08:54 rangi yep found it eventually 08:54 drojf yay 08:54 rangi that's that sorted 08:55 drojf rangi++ 08:57 rangi hows stuttgart eythian ? 08:57 eythian dunno, only just arrived, the train was late 08:57 rangi ahhh 08:57 rangi how long before the workshop starts? 08:58 eythian Setting up now, probably in 5-10 08:58 drojf late? deutsche bahn? never! 08:59 rangi good luck 09:02 eythian drojf: we determined that it was your fault 09:03 drojf eythian: i can live with that :P 09:11 Barrc1 Morning..... I am starting to look at publishing multiple OPACs (limited to library, CSS unique etc) and wondering if this is just a straight forward virtualhost config? Anyone have any gotchas or experience with this!? 09:12 drojf Barrc1: multiple opacs for one database? or multiple koha installations? 09:13 Barrc1 drojf: Multiple for one Koha instance (sorry, should have been clearer!) 09:17 drojf i think you can create several instances of koha using the same db. having just one koha instance with multiple opacs sounds not like something you can achieve easily. but that's more my feeling, i never thought about doing that. maybe others have some ideas 09:20 Barrc1 it looks like you can set overrides in the virtual hosts and use host headers to resolve to the correct site - seems straight forward but I haven't tried it yet! 09:35 * magnuse wishes eythian and kf the best of luck - have fun! 09:45 drojf kf is not even logged in to the irc. serious business 09:56 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 09:56 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 21.7°C (11:43 AM CEST on August 28, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). 09:59 magnuse @wunder boo 09:59 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 13.0°C (11:50 AM CEST on August 28, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 10:00 drojf what's a good summer termperature for bodø? i've only seen it in winter 10:12 magnuse drojf: well, we expect to have a few days over 20C during a summer 10:13 magnuse anything above 15 is good 10:15 drojf heh. i like how people cope with that. when i've been to umeå everybody was running around in tshirts when it was 15°. they celebrate the summer they get :) 10:15 magnuse yup, that's how we stay sane ;-) 10:18 * eythian has completed his first talk 10:23 rangi cool :) did it go ok? 10:24 eythian I think it did, though I'm biased :) 10:25 eythian cait says it did, but I don't know if she's trustworthy 10:26 eythian (she's watching me type!) 10:27 rangi hehe 10:30 cait hi all 10:30 rangi hi cait 10:33 eythian hi mveron 10:33 mveron hi eythian 10:40 drojf hi mveron 10:40 drojf how is the workshop going? 10:41 drojf i hope you did not plan to look at sandboxes tomorrow 10:42 eythian why? 10:42 eythian oh 10:42 Oak yup :) 10:46 mveron hi drojf, it is very interesting. 11:12 * magnuse waves to cait and eythian 11:19 magnuse i love it when customers report problems that there is already a fix for - this time it was bug 8251 11:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin 12:23 oleonard Hi #koha 12:28 drojf hi oleonard 12:49 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "French Cultural Center of Boston Goes Live on Koha with ByWater Solutions http://t.co/lbihjdsr #kohails" 13:08 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails French Cultural Center of Boston Goes Live on Koha with ByWater Solutions http://t.co/rEjfXmyv" 13:51 * wizzyrea waves 13:51 oleonard Hi wizzyrea 13:59 nengard does anyone know if the new routing lists tab on the patron record in master is controlled by a preference? does it go away if you have no routing lists? 13:59 * nengard is working on the manual again 14:00 oleonard It doesn't go away if you have no routing lists 14:00 oleonard I'm guessing it's not controlled by a pref because I didn't turn one on and I see the tab. 14:01 oleonard And it violates capitalization guidelines :P 14:02 * oleonard wishes, again, for serials sample data 14:09 nengard oleonard i can give you my serials ? 14:10 oleonard nengard: I would gratefully accept 14:11 nengard it's not much 14:11 nengard and it's a bit messy :) but I'll send you a dump 14:20 eythian wah<tab>...damn 14:21 eythian wahanui: hello 14:21 wahanui what's up, eythian 14:22 oleonard Magic. 14:22 eythian germs? 14:22 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. 14:23 eythian slides? 14:23 wahanui kf should be writing slides. Get to it! Schnell! 14:24 eythian no wahanui, slides is kf has written her slides. 14:24 wahanui okay, eythian. 14:25 wizzyrea schnell. 14:26 eythian wahanui: schnell is <reply>I know nozink! 14:26 wahanui OK, eythian. 14:33 * wizzyrea giggles 14:43 eythian wizzyrea: when do you hit civilisation? 14:43 wizzyrea October 29 :) 14:43 eythian Øarsome 14:44 oleonard Eh? 14:45 eythian You heard me, oleonard 15:05 drojf can i skip MARC21 field 100 etc if i make a dummy entry to hang other biblios on? or will MARC come to get me? 15:05 jcamins_away drojf: 1xx fields are optional. 15:06 drojf cool, thanks jcamins_away 15:06 drojf btw, you are not really away 15:07 jcamins_away drojf: sort of away. What are you trying to do? 15:07 oleonard He is drojf, but he's shouting from far away 15:07 drojf lol oleonard 15:08 reiveune1 bye 15:09 drojf jcamins_away: we have dvds with several titles. i want to have a parent titled "dvd XY" or something and link the "real" titles of the videos to the parent. so the parent has one item, the children have none, so people know they cannot get "video a" if it is on the same disk as "video b" and that disk is borrowed. does that make sense? 15:09 jcamins_away Yes, what does the 1xx have to do with anything? 15:10 jcamins_away You're describing analytics. 15:10 jcamins_away And specifically the EasyAnalytics use case. 15:11 drojf i try to keep the parent as minimal as possible. since there is not a single author for all the videos, i would prefer to have none for the parent. and was wondering wether that would make marc mad 15:11 wizzyrea drojf: that was the way koha was originally designed, until we put MARC in and broke it. 15:11 wizzyrea :( 15:11 wizzyrea (as I understand it) 15:11 jcamins_away Got it. 15:11 jcamins_away drojf: that's the correct way to do things. 15:12 wizzyrea NEKLS has a similar problem with things like TV series DVD's 15:12 jcamins_away But use EasyAnalytics to make the patrons happy. 15:12 wizzyrea some of our libraries split up the sets 15:12 wizzyrea and it was confusing for patrons 15:12 wizzyrea when they had items on the same set 15:12 wizzyrea for different discs 15:13 wizzyrea because since we don't allow item specific holds, they would request a hold for Breaking Bad (for example) and be wanting disc 2, but they would get disc 1 because they couldn't specify which disc to get. 15:13 wizzyrea very, very frustrating for patrons. 15:13 drojf jcamins_away: the data is not even in koha yet. as long as i get it in "somehow" I am happy, that might have to be enough happiness :D 15:13 wizzyrea so we finally cataloged them all separately 15:13 wizzyrea breaking bad, season one, disk 1 15:14 wizzyrea disc* 15:14 wizzyrea <items> 15:14 oleonard wizzyrea: Around here we call that the "pride and prejudice" problem after the multi-volume VHS set popular several years ago 15:14 drojf heh not sure what we are going to do with those because people don't like whole season boxes go away for weeks 15:14 wizzyrea and those records are separate from the ones where libraries choose not to split them up 15:14 wizzyrea so you can get "breaking bad, season one (full set)" 15:15 wizzyrea which is discrete from "breaking bad, season one, disc 1" 15:15 wizzyrea how did you solve it, oleonard? 15:15 oleonard We didn't 15:16 wizzyrea I think our method works ok - it muddies up the catalog but at least it's good for the patrons 15:16 wizzyrea if they want disc *, they can get it 15:16 wizzyrea and if there is a full set, they can get that too. 15:16 wizzyrea ah the joys of collaborating 42 public libraries. 15:17 wizzyrea in one system 15:17 drojf lol 15:17 oleonard We didn't solve the problem, but we also don't split up DVD sets, so the problem is lesser now that VHS is going away 15:17 wizzyrea ^^ I would prefer this, but some libraries, concerned about the sets being out for weeks, want to split them 15:17 wizzyrea so we let them, but make them do extra work. :P 15:18 oleonard Maybe if we did that too I'd have gotten to see some Game of Thrones by now 15:18 wizzyrea sorry jcamins, it had not occurred to me (and it is quite brilliant) to use analytics for that 15:18 wizzyrea of course it is brilliant. ;) 15:19 * oleonard guesses he'll have to learn what analytics are for now 15:19 jcamins_away oleonard: someone did this presentation on analytics for KohaCon12... 15:20 wizzyrea hehe oleonard re: game of thrones 15:20 oleonard jcamins_away: If only there was a way to save a "re-cording" of that time and somehow play it back in the present 15:20 drojf heh 15:22 jcamins_away oleonard: http://archive.org/details/Kohacon12-AnalyticRecordsAndKoha 15:22 jcamins_away Sadly I can't figure out how to tell the site that it's a movie not audio. 15:51 nengard anyone know if Koha is compliant with Open URL? 15:51 nengard what about SRU/WRW 15:51 nengard SRW 15:52 nengard oleonard i have info in the manual about what analytics are 15:53 jcamins_away nengard: OpenURL requires an outside link resolver. Koha does handle SRU/SRW. 15:55 jcamins_away nengard: you can insert the link resolver using jQuery, pulling the information required from CoINs. 16:00 oleonard On the left, the record staged in Koha. On the right, the .mrc file in MarcEdit: http://screencast.com/t/aixGrcN1Ae 16:00 oleonard What's going on? 16:01 oleonard Did we get bad MARC data from our vendor? Is Koha interpreting the data incorrectly? 16:02 jcamins_away oleonard: you imported it as UTF-8 when it was actually MARC-8. 16:03 jcamins_away MarcEdit defaults to MARC-8, and Koha defaults to UTF-8. 16:03 jcamins_away I think. 16:04 jcamins_away I might have it backwards, but I don't think so. 16:08 oleonard Okay, so re-importing and specifying MARC-8 corrected that record. 16:09 jcamins_away \o/ 16:09 jcamins_away ^^ the MARC must die dance 16:09 oleonard There's another record which is the same either way. In MarcEdit the author looks like "Th?y, Kim" And the same in Koha after import 16:10 jcamins_away They mixed MARC-8 and UTF-8. 16:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8268' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=913aba1a6639e00535cdb631ed2ca80cbe80289f> / Bug 8268: improve error checking <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=20ad69646fee22d85af57d23a694c5c6e6208b72> / Bug 8268 follow-up: rewrite config correctly <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d944df2272b0fbe 16:13 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @paul_poulain: "a few easy patches pushed today on #kohails. Back to business ! tomorrow I plan to push most of the day" 16:19 Oak jcamins++ 16:19 jcamins_away ? 16:20 Oak paul_p++ 16:20 jcamins_away @karma 16:20 huginn jcamins_away: Highest karma: "rangi" (643), "oleonard" (537), and "jcamins" (383). Lowest karma: "<!" (-111), "failed" (-93), and "-" (-59). You (jcamins_away) are ranked 58 out of 2197. 16:20 Oak your knowledge about stuff always astonishes me jcamins_away :) 16:20 oleonard Yes, jcamins_away++ 16:21 jcamins_away Ooh, I'm catching up with you, oleonard! 16:21 jcamins_away @karma jcamins_away 16:21 huginn jcamins_away: Karma for "jcamins_away" has been increased 15 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 15. 16:21 oleonard jcamins_away: I'll keep being unhelpful if that would help 16:21 * oleonard explodes in paradox 16:22 Oak funny 16:22 jcamins_away Hehe. 16:25 jenkins_koha Starting build #802 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 1 mo 25 days ago) 16:28 Oak thsi is very very good, Van Morrison - Sweet Thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eK1aQF60xc 16:29 Oak @later tell Brooke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eK1aQF60xc 16:29 huginn Oak: The operation succeeded. 16:29 Oak @later tell cait https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eK1aQF60xc 16:29 huginn Oak: The operation succeeded. 16:42 oleonard It would be cool if git bz apply checked for dependent bugs. Then I wouldn't make dumb mistakes like forgetting to apply another patch first. :| 16:43 * oleonard tests Bug 5888 for real now 16:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5888 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , opac-detail subject/author links improvements 16:43 jcamins_away oleonard: ooh, good idea. 16:47 oleonard jcamins_away: Shouldn't 5888 have a system pref to turn it on and off? 16:58 jcamins_away oleonard: probably. 16:58 * jcamins_away was particularly concerned with the functionality that was moved to bug 8210. 16:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8210 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Headings in OPAC bib details should link to authority record 17:03 wizzyrea we want to match modify/import batches of records for catalog cleanup - what, do you think, on a light load catalog, is the maximum number you'd want to do at one time to keep zebra happy? 17:03 wizzyrea (assuming you're not going to do them all at once, and let the zebraqueue handle them) 17:03 wizzyrea (i.e. not just doing a full reindex for each batch) 17:04 wizzyrea or would a full reindex be a better route? 17:07 martian523 hi, just a quick question 17:08 martian523 has koha set up the hourly circulation policies yet? 17:09 martian523 or is it still under construction? 17:10 maximep hourly loans are in 3.8 17:11 martian523 really? maybe i missed it, i'm using 3.8 17:11 maximep look in circulation rules 17:11 maximep you should have hours unit 17:12 martian523 thanks 17:14 martian523 ok...now i have another one 17:15 martian523 in circulation rules, there are 3 reference in "type" 17:15 martian523 but when editing item, there's only 1 reference 17:16 martian523 what happened to the other 2? 17:17 martian523 never mind 17:17 martian523 i found the answer 17:17 martian523 sorry! 17:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #802: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/802/ 17:29 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 8607: FIX overdues_notices script: $date is not replaced 17:29 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 8495: Fix JS error when creating a new order 17:29 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8576: Software error on authority edition when using merge 17:29 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8268 follow-up: rewrite config correctly 17:29 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8268: improve error checking 17:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8607 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , overdue_notices is broken 17:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8495 blocker, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Javascript error when creating a new order 17:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8576 critical, P2, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Software error on authority edition when using merge 17:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8268 enhancement, P2, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha should offer way to backup entire db 18:42 nengard okay, silly question, how can i find out what my highest barcode number is? I tried a report sorting by barcode desc and it's not working ? 18:42 nengard when my barcode generator gives me a code it's always 3.89924798249022e+19 and i want to update my highest number so that stops 18:42 nengard unless i'm on the wrong track 18:42 oleonard The sort should work. What do you get instead of the highest number? 18:43 nengard hang on i'll do a paste 18:43 jcamins_away nengard: SELECT MAX(barcodes) from items 18:43 jcamins_away Or MAX(barcode) or whatever the field is. 18:44 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Top barcodes" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/141 18:44 oleonard ^^ that's some awesome barcode garbage I have 18:44 pastebot "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "see the 3rd to last number - it's not in order and these can't be the highest numbers if that's what's happening with my auto barcode generator thingy :)" (18 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/142 18:45 nengard oleonard, i fixed those :) 18:45 nengard after i gave you the dump 18:45 jcamins_away Right, you can't do a sort on barcode. 18:45 oleonard Oh those aren't yours, those are all mine :) 18:45 jcamins_away Barcode is a string. 18:46 nengard nuh uh - those are what i had when i first wrote the report 18:46 jcamins_away Also, MAX() with strings does weird things. 18:46 nengard right 18:46 nengard the number it gave me is not super high 18:46 jcamins_away There was a ticket about that with Masscat. 18:46 nengard how about a count of characters 18:46 nengard what is the max number of characters allowed? 18:47 nengard and can i query any codes above that? 18:47 oleonard Oh you're right nengard I had my dbs switched 18:47 nengard :) 18:47 oleonard xx226648-108820 instead :) 18:47 jcamins_away nengard: the database can't store more than the maximum number of characters. 18:48 jcamins_away Your problem barcode is literally "3.89924798249022e+18" or something like that. 18:48 nengard mysql> select barcode from items where barcode like '3.899%'; 18:48 nengard Empty set (0.00 sec) 18:49 jcamins_away Use SELECT MAX(barcode) 18:49 jcamins_away I should mention- if you're *lucky* that barcode exists. 18:50 jcamins_away If you're not lucky, I suggest going through the database's pockets and looking for loose change. 18:51 pastebot "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "i bet the one that is 20 char in length is the problem" (20 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/143 18:51 wizzyrea the last time I tried to get a max barcode, I got "SPECIAL ITEM NO BARCODE" as the result (or something like) 18:51 wizzyrea not helpful ;) 18:51 jcamins_away wizzyrea: sounds about right. 18:51 nengard i did the max thing and got a number that was not long at all 18:52 pastebot "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "thing i found the culprit" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/144 18:52 wizzyrea then I limited to branch and that was much nicer. 18:52 oleonard wizzyrea: Sounds like my staff, who like to put in the phone number field "No phone" 18:52 jcamins_away http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=cataloguing/value_builder/barcode.pl;h=0ec6b6277a3dbf1049c71670f7fef4b0b93a14a0;hb=HEAD#l95 18:52 wizzyrea argle bargle bargle blarg 18:52 jcamins_away nengard: ^^ the offending code. 18:52 jcamins_away Try MAX(ABS(barcode)) 18:53 * jcamins_away notes this is why Excel is evil. 18:55 wajasu drojf: i think you mentioned being interested in my postfix email client setup. so I've pasted some config for reference. 18:55 pastebot "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "notes for configuring "null" email client for koha outgoing email" (345 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/145 18:55 nengard fixed it :) 18:55 nengard it was that 20 character barcode 18:55 * oleonard thanks jcamins_away for pointing out that "argle bargle bargle blarg" is offending code 18:56 drojf wow. thanks wajasu 18:56 wajasu it worked with my bug 8378 patch, which hopefully gets sign off 18:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8378 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore 19:02 nengard jcamins i never did pin point my authority problem ? i re-ran the linker and it won't link my name authorities (not asking for help right now - just an fyi) 19:03 jcamins_away Odd. 19:03 jcamins_away I'll run the linker against my database again when I'm looking at authority linking next. 19:05 * gmcharlt has a guess - checks something to confirm 19:05 wajasu rangi: i know we spoke about some sort of functional or integrated tests a few days back. i was able to use geb-spock (aka groovy based selenium2 webdriver specs) to login to koha and verifiy we arrive at the home page with firefox. 19:05 wajasu 19:05 wajasu I also, got fitnesee running to call groovy based fixtures. So we could have non-programmers write tests in fitnesse web pages. 19:06 wajasu then use fitnesse to verify that database row entries are correct in the backend. 19:08 wajasu i looked into a perl slim protocol driver, and that could be done later if you wanted, because you said unit tests were fine. 19:09 wajasu fitnesse is a wiki for writing high level tests. devs can write fixtures to enable the tests. fitnesse has a git plugin, so writing a test, adds the files inthe git directories to the git repo. so they get checked in with the branch, etc. 19:14 wajasu if this could be set up, we could push slower workflow of test-fail-test-fail-signoff to writetest-code-failtest-code-passtest-test-signoff-passqa. devs would need to pass test before they checkin/push/supply patch code. 19:15 jcamins_away wajasu: that only works as well as your users' motivation to write tests. 19:19 wajasu as a signer, could we not write a test when a patch fails then refer to it for them to pass/adjust for the next cycle? or when complex functionality is wanted (acquisitions, etc). you are right. writing tests is hard, but decoupling is hard. 19:23 jcamins_away wajasu: true. 19:29 jcamins_away wajasu: I think it's an excellent idea, just pointing out that a workflow of writetest-code-failtest-code-passtest-test-signoff-passqa is a little bit overly optimistic. ;) 19:34 rangi Morning 19:34 oleonard Hi rangi 19:35 rangi @wunder nzwn 19:35 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0°C (7:00 AM NZST on August 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Rising). 19:35 rangi Spring 19:42 rangi Hmm Jenkins still angry 19:42 rangi Better sooth him soon 19:43 rangi Or he will go postal 19:45 * wizzyrea read that "better scotch him soon" 19:45 wizzyrea yes, give him booze. that makes all butlers happy 19:46 rangi Hehe 19:59 rangi Ok my stop bbiab 20:13 oleonard Bye #koha 20:24 rangi back 20:25 wajasu rangi: to prevent repeating myself. http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-08-28#i_1061550 20:27 rangi cool 21:05 pastebot "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "using geb-spock to test koha gui using firefox" (112 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/146 21:05 jcamins_away wajasu: don't suppose we could use Perl with that? 21:06 wajasu i was going to write a perl slim port to let us call perl code. then you can test sevices, modules, sub routines. 21:09 wajasu once its set up, folks just write specs in the fitness wiki. the wiki specs are saved to a directory in the git repo. the step definitions/fixtures can be written in groovy. with a perl slim server port, you can write perl based fixtures for the same fitness tests. 21:09 jcamins_away wajasu: but people need to use the wiki to write Python? 21:12 wajasu to write specs in the fitnesse wiki markup. language independent. slim protocol sends strings/lists with simple protoocl to slim server that is written in java, ruby, perl(TODO), and the tests are executed, with results coming back to the fitnesse webbrowser. 21:18 * jcamins_away leaves 21:18 wajasu i'm just wondiering what you guys want/need in testing. you have unit tests. you can already mock. its integration tests that use all the tiers (gui, service, api, database) that you can prove at release time to prevent regressions. 22:10 jenkins_koha Starting build #144 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 22:48 jcamins_away wajasu: exactly. It's the complete stack that needs testing. 23:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #144: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/144/ 23:13 jenkins_koha julian.maurice: Bug 8495: Fix JS error when creating a new order 23:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8495 blocker, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Stable , Javascript error when creating a new order