IRC log for #koha, 2012-07-29

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05:32 Oak Ahoy me hearties
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07:21 Oak hello #koha
07:22 cait hi Oak :)
07:23 Oak hello cait :)
07:23 cait don't want me to ask the question still? ;)
07:23 Oak nope. don't ask it for two more days. you can start asking after Monday :)
07:24 cait ok
07:24 cait :)
07:24 Oak need to make a proposal for migrating a library from Inmagic to Koha and submit it on Monday.
07:26 Oak any idea how long will it take to convert the Inmagic database (exported in the form of a 5MB ASCII text file) to MARC batch file?
07:26 Oak i asked Ruth and she said okay she will help me, but forgot to ask her how long this particular step will take...
07:27 Oak and I need to mention estimate time for each task in the proposal
07:27 cait hm
07:27 cait she may be around a little bit late, I have never done it
07:27 Oak would you like to have a look at the file?
07:27 cait we don't have inmagic around here
07:27 Oak ah
07:27 cait and she might have done it before
07:27 Oak okay
07:28 cait so my estimate would not be very helpful I think
07:28 Oak hmm. it has ~23000 records in it
07:29 Oak well. now i need to start making that proposal :-|
07:29 Oak seems like a big task...
07:30 Oak by the way, which one would be better 3.6.7 or 3.8.3 ?
07:31 cait hm
07:31 cait that's difficult
07:32 Oak the one with less issues -- surprises.
07:32 cait 3.6.7 maybe
07:32 cait but it depends on your timeframe perhaps
07:32 Oak how on timeframe?
07:32 cait 3.8.x continues to get better
07:32 Oak and 3.6.x?
07:32 wahanui 3.6.x is pretty stable and has a lot of nice features and bug fixes
07:32 cait too :)
07:33 cait it' sreally difficult
07:33 cait i am not sure what good advice woul be
07:33 Oak which one would you pick for a new library?
07:33 Oak i mean personally you yourself....
07:33 cait we are wondering about it ourselves right now
07:33 Oak :)
07:34 cait we will probably go with 3.6.x... but it's not finally decided yet
07:34 Oak hmm
07:35 Oak what are those emails in mailing lists about searching issues in 3.8.x?
07:35 cait hm which do you mean?
07:35 * Oak goes to check them
07:35 cait I am not aware of search issues, I think there were some calendar and fines related problems because of introduction of hourly loans
07:36 Oak are they fixed in 3.8.3?
07:37 cait i think probably 3.8.4
07:37 Oak hmm
07:39 Oak okay i checked there are no 3.8.x specific search issues... rather just some zebra issues... so never mind.
07:40 cait rangi pushed some patches for it after 3.8.3 was released
07:40 cait yeah, i think what we see with every release :)
07:40 cait but it works, if you know how to tame it
07:40 Oak :) yup
07:41 Oak the installation i did using 3.6.4 for my project is working fine... no zebra issues... and it's just a normal Debian package install.
07:43 Oak *sigh* the proposal... :(
07:51 Oak cait
07:51 cait hm?
07:51 Oak have you ever heard someone running Koha on Oracle database instead of MySQL?
07:51 cait it's not possible right now
07:51 cait there is still mysql specific code in Koha
07:52 Oak good.
07:53 Oak that means i won't have to *make* it work with Oracle... as the IT people of the library mentioned they would prefer if Koha could use their Oracle server instead of MySQL
07:53 cait i wouldn't recommnd trying to do that
07:53 Oak god. understood.
07:53 Oak good*
07:54 Oak how is the nephew?
07:55 cait which one? :)
07:55 cait I think both are doing fine
07:55 Oak :)
07:55 Oak the latest one
07:58 Oak what are you doing right now cait?
08:00 cait hm watching olympics and eating breakfast :)
08:00 Oak :)
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11:26 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
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11:59 Oak cait
12:28 jcamins Good morning.
12:42 mtompset Greetings, jcamins
12:42 mtompset Fedora did not want to boot nicely on my netbook's VM.
12:43 mtompset I'm calling it quits on my RPM-based OS attempts.
12:43 jcamins Well, you *are* using a netbook. :P
12:43 mtompset I couldn't afford a really computer.
12:43 mtompset really good.
12:44 mtompset This was a Christmas present, and it is doing well enough for everything else.
12:44 jcamins Yeah, but you have to expect that things will be veeeeeerrrrrrrrryyyyy slow.
12:44 mtompset Okay... there's is slow, then there are RPM-based OS boot times.
12:45 jcamins Hehe.
12:45 mtompset CentOS and Fedora require a coffee break just to boot.
12:45 mtompset Ubuntu is a couple minutes, but you can see it working.
12:46 mtompset It doesn't help that Fedora doesn't have a SERVER version, that I could easily find.
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12:46 mtompset Greetings, drojf
12:49 * cait waves
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13:09 mtompset Greetings, cait
13:09 mtompset Greetings, Oak
13:09 cait hi mtompset
13:10 cait hi Oak
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14:04 mib_mn7wye Hello
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14:30 francharb hi
14:34 mtompset Greetings, francharb
14:35 mtompset Greetings again, Oak
15:01 francharb 0/ mtate
15:01 francharb oups
15:01 francharb 0/ mtompset
15:01 francharb :)
15:02 mtompset :)
16:57 Oak greetings mtompset :) i was afk, just saw your message
16:57 Oak and now it's time to sleep...
16:57 mtompset not a problem.
16:58 Oak :)
16:58 mtompset I am about 10 minutes away from sleep.
16:58 mtompset I just rsync'd 14GB.
16:58 mtompset I have to check if it did it correctly.
16:58 Oak in that case, good night mtompset :)
16:58 Oak good night #koha
16:58 mtompset good night, Oak
17:32 mtompset Well, that's weird du -h listed different numbers, but a du -b lists similar numbers, and the difference is accounted for by an ls -la and the directory size seems different.
17:32 jcamins block size.
17:32 mtompset how to check block size?
17:33 jcamins I don't know. But if the size of the directory entry is different on one system from another, it is probably block size.
17:36 mtompset the problem seems stranger under VM environment.
17:41 mtompset anyways... it probably is a block size difference... I'm off to bed now.
17:41 mtompset Have a good afternoon, jcamins .
17:42 jcamins Thanks. Night.
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19:13 mveron Hi #koha
19:13 cait hi mveron
19:13 mveron hi cait :-)
19:14 mveron @wunder Basel
19:14 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 18.0°C (9:00 PM CEST on July 29, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
19:16 mveron cait: I had a nasty little bug with ofline circulation: If patron had fines (over the limit), it showed: Sie haben offene Gebühren in Höhe von und können daher nichts mehr entleihen. (Without the amount)
19:16 cait oh
19:16 mveron Bug 8518
19:16 cait what was it?
19:16 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8518 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Self checkout does not display debt amount if syspref AllowFineOverride is set to allow
19:16 mveron 3 lines of code missing...
19:17 cait ah
19:17 mveron took some time to find out...
19:18 cait yeah I can imagine
19:18 mveron ...but now it is ready to sign off...
19:19 * mveron would rather like to take off - to a place warmet than 18°C
19:19 cait the temperature is ok for me
19:19 cait only so sleepy
19:19 cait I know I have not been testing much lately :(
19:20 mveron but youdi a lot o other things!
19:20 mveron (should put my glasses)
19:20 cait heh
19:21 mveron Question: Wehre would you put "Kostenstellen" in Acquisition?
19:21 cait funds
19:22 mveron Ok, will have a look :-)  I'm not an expert in "Buchhaltung"
19:22 cait I would use the budgets to mark years, because you can duplicate them and then use the funds to bulid the hiearchical structure
19:22 cait but funds display is not optimal yet
19:22 cait it doesn't display the hierarchical order
19:23 mveron Ah
19:23 cait so, if possible I would flatten it
19:23 cait you could also maybe use the statistic values for grouping
19:23 cait there are 2 for each fund that you can link to an authorized value
19:24 cait not sure I make sense :)
19:25 mveron It's late anyway :-)
19:27 * mveron looks up the translation for "Kostenstelle"
19:27 mveron Leo translates "Kostenstelle" to "cost centre", "cost unit" and "burden centre"
19:27 cait hm not sure about that
19:28 cait I think you can't put it 1:1 into koha structure, because we don't have different terms for the different levels of funds
19:30 cait what's the normal structure? kostenart - kostenstelle - kostenträger?
19:32 mveron Don't know yet...
19:43 jcamins I have built a shelf! :D
19:46 cait hhmm
19:46 cait did you put books in it yet?
19:46 jcamins No, it's for the pantry. :P
19:46 cait did you put anything in it yet and it's still alive? :
19:46 cait )
19:46 jcamins And the glue is stil drying.
19:46 jcamins No, not quite yet.
19:46 jcamins *still
19:55 rangi Morning
19:56 mveron Hi rangi
19:56 cait morning
19:59 jcamins :D
19:59 jcamins Nicest shelf *ever*!!!!
19:59 jcamins :D
20:00 cait lol
20:00 cait you see it through the eyes of the builder
20:01 jcamins lol
20:01 rangi Karam++
20:02 cait :)
20:02 cait yep Karam++
20:02 cait and rangi++
20:03 mveron    :-)
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20:16 mveron Good night #koha
20:17 cait good morning kathryn :)
20:22 kathryn hello cait how're you going? :)
20:22 cait I am fine - watching olympics but sleep soon
20:23 cait hope you have a nice monday :)
20:23 kathryn thanks! enjoy!
20:28 cait night #koha
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