Time Nick Message 05:32 Oak Ahoy me hearties 07:21 Oak hello #koha 07:22 cait hi Oak :) 07:23 Oak hello cait :) 07:23 cait don't want me to ask the question still? ;) 07:23 Oak nope. don't ask it for two more days. you can start asking after Monday :) 07:24 cait ok 07:24 cait :) 07:24 Oak need to make a proposal for migrating a library from Inmagic to Koha and submit it on Monday. 07:26 Oak any idea how long will it take to convert the Inmagic database (exported in the form of a 5MB ASCII text file) to MARC batch file? 07:26 Oak i asked Ruth and she said okay she will help me, but forgot to ask her how long this particular step will take... 07:27 Oak and I need to mention estimate time for each task in the proposal 07:27 cait hm 07:27 cait she may be around a little bit late, I have never done it 07:27 Oak would you like to have a look at the file? 07:27 cait we don't have inmagic around here 07:27 Oak ah 07:27 cait and she might have done it before 07:27 Oak okay 07:28 cait so my estimate would not be very helpful I think 07:28 Oak hmm. it has ~23000 records in it 07:29 Oak well. now i need to start making that proposal :-| 07:29 Oak seems like a big task... 07:30 Oak by the way, which one would be better 3.6.7 or 3.8.3 ? 07:31 cait hm 07:31 cait that's difficult 07:32 Oak the one with less issues -- surprises. 07:32 cait 3.6.7 maybe 07:32 cait but it depends on your timeframe perhaps 07:32 Oak how on timeframe? 07:32 cait 3.8.x continues to get better 07:32 Oak and 3.6.x? 07:32 wahanui 3.6.x is pretty stable and has a lot of nice features and bug fixes 07:32 cait too :) 07:33 cait it' sreally difficult 07:33 cait i am not sure what good advice woul be 07:33 Oak which one would you pick for a new library? 07:33 Oak i mean personally you yourself.... 07:33 cait we are wondering about it ourselves right now 07:33 Oak :) 07:34 cait we will probably go with 3.6.x... but it's not finally decided yet 07:34 Oak hmm 07:35 Oak what are those emails in mailing lists about searching issues in 3.8.x? 07:35 cait hm which do you mean? 07:35 * Oak goes to check them 07:35 cait I am not aware of search issues, I think there were some calendar and fines related problems because of introduction of hourly loans 07:36 Oak are they fixed in 3.8.3? 07:37 cait i think probably 3.8.4 07:37 Oak hmm 07:39 Oak okay i checked there are no 3.8.x specific search issues... rather just some zebra issues... so never mind. 07:40 cait rangi pushed some patches for it after 3.8.3 was released 07:40 cait yeah, i think what we see with every release :) 07:40 cait but it works, if you know how to tame it 07:40 Oak :) yup 07:41 Oak the installation i did using 3.6.4 for my project is working fine... no zebra issues... and it's just a normal Debian package install. 07:43 Oak *sigh* the proposal... :( 07:51 Oak cait 07:51 cait hm? 07:51 Oak have you ever heard someone running Koha on Oracle database instead of MySQL? 07:51 cait it's not possible right now 07:51 cait there is still mysql specific code in Koha 07:52 Oak good. 07:53 Oak that means i won't have to *make* it work with Oracle... as the IT people of the library mentioned they would prefer if Koha could use their Oracle server instead of MySQL 07:53 cait i wouldn't recommnd trying to do that 07:53 Oak god. understood. 07:53 Oak good* 07:54 Oak how is the nephew? 07:55 cait which one? :) 07:55 cait I think both are doing fine 07:55 Oak :) 07:55 Oak the latest one 07:58 Oak what are you doing right now cait? 08:00 cait hm watching olympics and eating breakfast :) 08:00 Oak :) 11:26 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 11:59 Oak cait 12:28 jcamins Good morning. 12:42 mtompset Greetings, jcamins 12:42 mtompset Fedora did not want to boot nicely on my netbook's VM. 12:43 mtompset I'm calling it quits on my RPM-based OS attempts. 12:43 jcamins Well, you *are* using a netbook. :P 12:43 mtompset I couldn't afford a really computer. 12:43 mtompset really good. 12:44 mtompset This was a Christmas present, and it is doing well enough for everything else. 12:44 jcamins Yeah, but you have to expect that things will be veeeeeerrrrrrrrryyyyy slow. 12:44 mtompset Okay... there's is slow, then there are RPM-based OS boot times. 12:45 jcamins Hehe. 12:45 mtompset CentOS and Fedora require a coffee break just to boot. 12:45 mtompset Ubuntu is a couple minutes, but you can see it working. 12:46 mtompset It doesn't help that Fedora doesn't have a SERVER version, that I could easily find. 12:46 mtompset Greetings, drojf 12:49 * cait waves 13:09 mtompset Greetings, cait 13:09 mtompset Greetings, Oak 13:09 cait hi mtompset 13:10 cait hi Oak 14:04 mib_mn7wye Hello 14:30 francharb hi 14:34 mtompset Greetings, francharb 14:35 mtompset Greetings again, Oak 15:01 francharb 0/ mtate 15:01 francharb oups 15:01 francharb 0/ mtompset 15:01 francharb :) 15:02 mtompset :) 16:57 Oak greetings mtompset :) i was afk, just saw your message 16:57 Oak and now it's time to sleep... 16:57 mtompset not a problem. 16:58 Oak :) 16:58 mtompset I am about 10 minutes away from sleep. 16:58 mtompset I just rsync'd 14GB. 16:58 mtompset I have to check if it did it correctly. 16:58 Oak in that case, good night mtompset :) 16:58 Oak good night #koha 16:58 mtompset good night, Oak 17:32 mtompset Well, that's weird du -h listed different numbers, but a du -b lists similar numbers, and the difference is accounted for by an ls -la and the directory size seems different. 17:32 jcamins block size. 17:32 mtompset how to check block size? 17:33 jcamins I don't know. But if the size of the directory entry is different on one system from another, it is probably block size. 17:36 mtompset the problem seems stranger under VM environment. 17:41 mtompset anyways... it probably is a block size difference... I'm off to bed now. 17:41 mtompset Have a good afternoon, jcamins . 17:42 jcamins Thanks. Night. 19:13 mveron Hi #koha 19:13 cait hi mveron 19:13 mveron hi cait :-) 19:14 mveron @wunder Basel 19:14 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 18.0°C (9:00 PM CEST on July 29, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 19:16 mveron cait: I had a nasty little bug with ofline circulation: If patron had fines (over the limit), it showed: Sie haben offene Gebühren in Höhe von und können daher nichts mehr entleihen. (Without the amount) 19:16 cait oh 19:16 mveron Bug 8518 19:16 cait what was it? 19:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8518 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Self checkout does not display debt amount if syspref AllowFineOverride is set to allow 19:16 mveron 3 lines of code missing... 19:17 cait ah 19:17 mveron took some time to find out... 19:18 cait yeah I can imagine 19:18 mveron ...but now it is ready to sign off... 19:19 * mveron would rather like to take off - to a place warmet than 18°C 19:19 cait the temperature is ok for me 19:19 cait only so sleepy 19:19 cait I know I have not been testing much lately :( 19:20 mveron but youdi a lot o other things! 19:20 mveron (should put my glasses) 19:20 cait heh 19:21 mveron Question: Wehre would you put "Kostenstellen" in Acquisition? 19:21 cait funds 19:22 mveron Ok, will have a look :-) I'm not an expert in "Buchhaltung" 19:22 cait I would use the budgets to mark years, because you can duplicate them and then use the funds to bulid the hiearchical structure 19:22 cait but funds display is not optimal yet 19:22 cait it doesn't display the hierarchical order 19:23 mveron Ah 19:23 cait so, if possible I would flatten it 19:23 cait you could also maybe use the statistic values for grouping 19:23 cait there are 2 for each fund that you can link to an authorized value 19:24 cait not sure I make sense :) 19:25 mveron It's late anyway :-) 19:27 * mveron looks up the translation for "Kostenstelle" 19:27 mveron Leo translates "Kostenstelle" to "cost centre", "cost unit" and "burden centre" 19:27 cait hm not sure about that 19:28 cait I think you can't put it 1:1 into koha structure, because we don't have different terms for the different levels of funds 19:30 cait what's the normal structure? kostenart - kostenstelle - kostenträger? 19:32 mveron Don't know yet... 19:43 jcamins I have built a shelf! :D 19:46 cait hhmm 19:46 cait did you put books in it yet? 19:46 jcamins No, it's for the pantry. :P 19:46 cait did you put anything in it yet and it's still alive? : 19:46 cait ) 19:46 jcamins And the glue is stil drying. 19:46 jcamins No, not quite yet. 19:46 jcamins *still 19:55 rangi Morning 19:56 mveron Hi rangi 19:56 cait morning 19:59 jcamins :D 19:59 jcamins Nicest shelf *ever*!!!! 19:59 jcamins :D 20:00 cait lol 20:00 cait you see it through the eyes of the builder 20:01 jcamins lol 20:01 rangi Karam++ 20:02 cait :) 20:02 cait yep Karam++ 20:02 cait and rangi++ 20:03 mveron http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H17mWrB9RbY :-) 20:16 mveron Good night #koha 20:17 cait good morning kathryn :) 20:22 kathryn hello cait how're you going? :) 20:22 cait I am fine - watching olympics but sleep soon 20:23 cait hope you have a nice monday :) 20:23 kathryn thanks! enjoy! 20:28 cait night #koha 23:35 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ranginui: "@ThisCJ yep, the central bank there, and the reserve bank here are the 2 'central' banks i know of using #kohails"