IRC log for #koha, 2012-07-13

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00:02 mtj yes paul, do it!, do it!
00:02 rangi i like it
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00:44 rangi ohh cool
00:45 rangi i didnt realise anthony mao had so many libraries
00:47 jcamins Is there any way to cherry-pick more than one commit at a time?
00:47 rangi i know someone has asked this before
00:47 jcamins I *don't* want to merge in the other branch, because there are some patches I don't want.
00:47 rangi i cant remember the answer
00:47 jcamins Probably me.
00:48 jcamins[…]-multiple-commits
00:49 rangi ah yep, new git :)
00:49 jcamins I have git, and it definitely does not cherry-pick more than one commit.
00:49 jcamins I know because I've been trying that over and over and over.
00:50 jcamins Maybe they meant the one that comes first has to be *newer*.
00:50 rangi yeah try that
00:50 rangi also the format-patch idea has merit
00:50 rangi git format-patch --full-index --binary --stdout range
00:51 jcamins I tried the xargs one.
00:51 jcamins Bad idea.
00:51 rangi yeah too dangerous
00:51 rangi the patch will at least give you a chance to fix the conflicts
00:52 jcamins Well, it shouldn't be too dangerous... 3.6.x and 3.6-testing have so far diverged... not at all.
00:53 rangi :)
01:07 jcamins Ha!
01:07 jcamins Figured it out eventually.
01:08 jcamins The format-patch was a step in the right direction.
01:41 jcamins bug 7726
01:41 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7726 trivial, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , AllowItemsOnHoldCheckout has columns in wrong order in sysprefs.sql
01:42 jcamins bug 6931
01:42 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6931 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , hardcoded insert incompatible with UNIMARC
01:43 rangi hmm?
01:45 jcamins cherry-picking.
01:45 rangi ahh
01:50 jcamins Well, there was no 3.6.x patch for bug 8062.
01:50 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8062 critical, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Stable , Cart email broken for non english templates
01:51 jcamins I just tried my hand at resolving it, but I don't think that'll be going into 3.6.7.
01:52 rangi did you update it askign for a 3.6.x patch? i do that with 3.8.x ones
01:52 rangi if they dont apply clean
01:52 jcamins I did, yes.
01:52 rangi sweet
01:53 jcamins I'd just like to have had a 3.6.x patch for 3.6.7.
01:55 rangi *nod*
01:59 ago43 Hi, after importing some authorities via, I ran link_bibs_to and got tons of the following errors: Auth error: Unsupported Use attribute (114) Match-heading Bib-1
01:59 ago43 I only imported 100 authorities, but I've gotten many hundreds of these errors.
02:00 ago43 should I abort the process, and re-index with the back-ups I made before starting the authorities import?
02:00 jcamins ago43: you need to update the zebra config.
02:00 jcamins No point.
02:00 jcamins The config is still wrong.
02:01 rangi yeah, 114 points to bad config usually
02:01 ago43 cool.  thanks!
02:04 jcamins Bug 7941 caused all sorts of problems, didn't it?
02:04 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7941 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Stable , Fix version numbers in modules and set up a system to keep them up to date
02:04 * jcamins gives it a miss.
02:05 rangi not really, the hardcoded numbers in the other files caused the mess, once thats pushed it will be fine
02:06 jcamins Right, but when choosing things to go to 3.6.x, that seems non-essential, and is known to break things.
02:07 rangi yep, id leave it for 3.6
02:08 rangi the nice thing it did, was throw up that we had hardcoded madness
02:08 rangi so id pull those ones in, even if not the 7941
02:09 rangi but maybe not this close to eol .. the timebomb is unlikely to explode in the next few months :)
02:10 jcamins What is with the "released releases" thing in docs/history.txt?
02:10 rangi its a tab separated file
02:10 rangi that i keep fixing the tabs on
02:11 rangi releases is the type
02:11 jcamins Ohh.
02:11 jcamins Got it.
02:11 rangi the idea is you can slurp the file in, find all the release notices for a nice timeline
02:11 jcamins That's excellent.
02:11 jcamins I just wrote a crazy regular expression to get me that information.
02:11 rangi yeah to stop that :0
02:12 rangi some might have the releases bit missing, but we can fix that easily enough ;)
02:13 * jcamins keeps on meaning to send in a patch to fix that, since it looks like it just says "released releases"
02:13 rangi i think i used to tag the developer ones too
02:13 jcamins Guess there's a good reason not to.
02:13 rangi and meetings
02:14 rangi oh
02:14 rangi a new thing for the dashboard
02:14 jcamins Yes!
02:15 rangi days until string freeze
02:15 jcamins That too.
02:15 jcamins I thought you meant "newest developers."
02:15 rangi ohhh that too :)
02:16 rangi lemme get a coffee and ill get right on that
02:28 rangi when are you planning 3.6.7 ?
02:29 rangi string freeze on the 15th?
02:29 jcamins Yup.
02:29 rangi cool
02:29 rangi release on 22?
02:29 jcamins Yup.
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02:31 jcamins ~/release-tools/ -v --push=kc-rmaint:3.6.x && git checkout 3.6-testing && ~/release-tools/ -v --push=kc-rmaint:3.6.x-rmaint/testing
02:31 jcamins :D
02:31 mib_1xu6wg anyone have a link to the difference between 3.6.6 and 3.8.2? or can say which would be better to "start" with for a new system for a library?
02:32 jcamins mib_1xu6wg: 3.6.6 is rather more mature and stable. 3.8.2 has a lot of cool new features.
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02:32 jcamins If you won't be going live for a while, I'd go with 3.8.2.
02:32 jcamins 3.8.3 will be about in two weeks or so, and it will be even more stable.
02:33 mib_1xu6wg is the transisition to the next version hard? say we use 3.6.6 but I try 3.8.X and it has stuff we want, nice upgrade script, or it is a rip and replace type install?
02:33 jcamins (currently the big problems with 3.8.x are all to do with fines)
02:33 jcamins Very easy.
02:34 jcamins You just change "oldstable" in your /etc/apt/sources.list to "stable" and run: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade koha-common
02:34 mib_1xu6wg Window is to have it running in production by end of August to replace Follet Circ/Cat
02:34 jcamins :D
02:34 rangi you do fines?
02:34 jcamins Hmmm... you probably don't use fines too much, do you?
02:34 rangi hehe snap :)
02:35 mib_1xu6wg no fines, its a school they hold report cards hostage :P
02:35 jcamins rangi: BTW, tell me that command line wasn't profoundly awesome.
02:35 jcamins mib_1xu6wg: 3.8.2 would be a good choice, then.
02:35 jcamins Ooh, I like the "New features recently pushed."
02:36 rangi :)
02:36 rangi yeah its good eh
02:36 jcamins Ooh, 8301 was pushed?
02:36 jcamins Awesome!
02:36 mib_1xu6wg okay I played with 3.6.4 I believe a while back you all helped me get a working system, I submitted a few failed patches, and even tried to learn git...
02:37 jcamins Awesome! You'll get the hang of git in no time. :)
02:37 mib_1xu6wg I just my new server in and I am using Vmware ESXi on it, so I am hoping I can building a system in VirtualBox and transfer it in
02:37 jcamins You need to use a certain type of disk image.
02:38 mib_1xu6wg I downloaded VMware converter tool. Hopefully construction is done soon and I can do this all @ work, but for now I was looking at "options" if I still can;t get in my server room
02:38 jcamins Oh my.
02:39 jcamins Actually, I seem to remember talking to you. :)
02:39 mib_1xu6wg there are doing asbestos abatement, entire building is down
02:39 rangi id definitely use the pacakges
02:39 jcamins No question.
02:39 jcamins Packages all the way.
02:39 mib_1xu6wg oh yeah I plan on packages for the production system
02:40 * jcamins smiles beneficently at his computer, now testing two releases, and goes to sleep.
02:40 rangi sleep well
02:40 Shane-S I had linked to a few documents that were not clear on the package installtions and I think wizzyrea mentioned removing outdated docs
02:40 Shane-S night
02:41 Shane-S hopefully the package install is simple
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03:40 Amit_Gupta heya bag
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03:48 cait good morning #koha
03:49 rangi hi cait
03:49 cait h rangi :)
03:50 rangi cait: i added important dates to the dashboard
03:50 cait nice!
03:50 cait rangi++
03:50 cait long listof sign-offers now
03:51 cait that's nice too, it's growing
03:52 rangi next feature is 3 newest developers
03:52 rangi that was jcamins_away idea
03:52 cait :)
03:52 rangi according to my stats
03:53 rangi from 13/6/2012 to 10/7/2012
03:53 rangi i received 4053 emails to my bigballofwax address
03:53 rangi and sent 242
03:57 cait wow
04:04 dcook Just a few e-mails, eh?
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04:06 rangi just a few :)
04:06 dcook I just added another :p
04:07 dcook I've actually been finding several bugs dealing with holds all day, but now that I think about it...I've been looking at 3.8.0, so they might already be fixed
04:07 * dcook feels that his day may become invalidated shortly
04:08 rangi heh
04:09 dcook Actually, I wouldn't mind that so much
04:09 dcook It would save me the headache of trying to puzzle them all out
04:13 dcook Damn...if only I were so lucky :p
04:14 rangi theres a big rewrite in the works
04:15 rangi its being tested at the moment
04:15 dcook For holds?
04:15 rangi yep
04:15 * dcook drools
04:15 dcook What's the bug #?
04:15 wahanui hmmm... the bug # is there
04:16 rangi papa is who you wnat to talk to about it
04:16 rangi 5609 but not a lot to see there
04:18 dcook Hmm
04:18 dcook You're right about there not being much
04:18 dcook Most of this looks like enhancements though
04:19 rangi bug 5786
04:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5786 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, srdjan, Patch doesn't apply , Move AllowOnShelfHolds system preference to the Circulation Matrix
04:19 dcook I'm looking at another one of those issues where it used to work and now it doesn't
04:19 rangi bug 5787
04:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5787 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Patch doesn't apply , Move OPACItemHolds system preference to the Circulation Matrix.
04:19 rangi bug 5788
04:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5788 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , Move ReservesMaxPickupDelay system preference to the Circulation Matrix.
04:19 dcook Yeah, I looked at those
04:19 rangi[…]ug_5786_5787_5788
04:19 rangi thats a merge of them
04:20 cait good to hear it's being tested :)
04:21 cait I started on one of them but got totally lost :(
04:22 dcook Hmm
04:22 dcook I can understand. I'm not sure I follow a lot of this
04:22 dcook Personally, I'm just trying to restore functionality that was already there :S
04:23 rangi thats always a great goal
04:23 rangi what is it?
04:23 rangi the best is to write a test so that if someone breaks it again, the tests scream at them
04:23 rangi :)
04:24 dcook I am intrigued...
04:24 dcook
04:24 dcook If there is an item with multiple holds on it, and you cancel a hold, the screen (except the header) is cleared
04:24 dcook Instead of prompting you to confirm the hold for the next person in the queue
04:25 dcook Looking at our 3.2 install, it used to have a very nice prompt appear in such a situation
04:25 rangi right, im not sure koha did
04:25 rangi at least i dont remember it
04:25 rangi maybe it was a patch never submitted?
04:25 dcook Maybe
04:25 dcook But the clearing of the screen is still unusual
04:26 rangi yep it is
04:26 dcook It doesn't even return to the "No Holds" screen
04:26 * dcook looks into the prompt
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04:29 dcook Cancelling holds in transit also adds another layer of evil...
04:31 dcook I wonder sometimes, rangi, if you have all the koha code in your head :p
04:31 cait he does
04:31 cait but I am not sure it's properly version controlled
04:32 dcook :p
04:32 dcook Yep...looks like we made a lot of changes to the way that holds are handled
04:32 * dcook tears out his own eyes for a bit
04:33 rangi hehe
04:34 * cait sends cookies
04:34 dcook Mmm, cookies
04:34 dcook For the most part, I think that they're good changes. I just wish that they were tracked better. I suppose that's the whole point of moving to using git for all of our changes
04:34 * druthb perx.  Cookies?
04:35 rangi yeah, tracking and getting them into koha makes everyones life easier
04:36 dcook Agreed
04:36 cait druthb: brush you rteeth and go to bed!
04:37 cait yep it does :)
04:37 cait makes it possible to use the packages for us soon
04:37 dcook ?
04:37 cait because not having local customizatoins is nice :)
04:37 dcook Sooo true
04:38 druthb Already brushed my fangs and am in bed, cait.  :)  just being lazy.
04:38 cait sleep! :)
04:38 druthb :P
04:40 dcook Not sure how to deal with the transit issues...
04:40 dcook We can't stop people from cancelling holds while items are in transit
04:40 rangi nope
04:40 dcook But cancelling holds on items in transit creates some nasty problems
04:40 rangi hmm?
04:41 dcook If an item on hold is in transit to another library and the transfer is cancelled at the home library but the hold remains, the item cannot be checked in at the transfer library...but checking in at the home library does nothing
04:41 dcook If you cancel a hold or change the pickup location while it's in transit, you have to check it in at the home branch and either (Cancel the transfer to the original transfer) or just confirm the real hold/transfer at the bottom)
04:42 dcook In this second case, two prompts appear. One telling you to transfer it to the original transfer location. The second telling you to confirm the hold and second it to the new transfer location.
04:42 rangi right
04:42 dcook I imagine that there are other scenarios as well, but those are the two that I've noticed so far
04:42 rangi what happens in the first scenario when you try to check it in?
04:43 dcook In the second case, clicking on the first "transfer to original transfer location" either throws a software error or clears all transfer destinations
04:43 rangi (at the transfer library)
04:43 dcook It said "Cannot check in. Must checkin at home branch"
04:43 rangi hmm that must be related to a syspref too
04:43 dcook I sure hope so
04:43 dcook Actually, I had that inkling as well
04:43 dcook But even if it is...
04:44 rangi it will be
04:44 rangi but returning it home doesnt wipe the transfer off?
04:44 dcook Independant Branches maybe?
04:44 dcook Right
04:44 dcook And here's the real problem, I suppose
04:44 rangi no, it will be to do with homebranch something something
04:44 dcook When returning it home the first time, we tried to cancel the transfer
04:45 dcook But it didn't really work
04:45 rangi cos you can have floating collections and stuff, that never have to return home
04:45 dcook But home branch "thinks" it did
04:45 rangi right
04:45 rangi so i think its all down to cancelling transfers then
04:46 dcook As in?
04:46 rangi well its not cancelling them
04:46 dcook Mmm
04:46 rangi when you returned it to home
04:46 rangi and choose to cancel it didnt work
04:47 dcook Or maybe it somewhat worked
04:47 dcook If it was cancelled, that would explain why the transfer branch wouldn't accept it
04:47 dcook But maybe the item is just not being modded?
04:47 rangi hmm?
04:48 rangi the item doesnt need to be
04:48 dcook You can tell I never do anything with holds, lol
04:48 rangi the transfers are totally independent of holds
04:48 dcook Yeah, I just realized that
04:48 rangi ie not linked in anyway
04:48 dcook So why would the transfer branch refuse it,  but the item status still say it
04:48 rangi they can just start a transfer
04:48 rangi do you have db access?
04:49 dcook Decent access
04:49 dcook Limited write, but I can select just fine
04:50 dcook branchtransfers?
04:50 rangi try SELECT * from branchtransfers where itemnumber=whatever
04:50 rangi hopefully can find out if the transfer was actually cancelled
04:53 dcook I see a few "wrongtransfer" records
04:53 dcook from and to the same branch
04:53 rangi right
04:54 rangi but not one for that item to the branch you cancelled it for?
04:56 dcook I'm trying to replicate the issue, but I seem to be doing it a bit differently
04:56 dcook So I've got my item going from demo to electronic
04:56 dcook for pickup at electronic
04:56 dcook I'll cancel that hold
04:57 dcook Now the item says going from demo to electronic for pickup at demo
04:57 dcook Because it hasn't physically left demo yet, I'm going to check in at demo
04:58 dcook As before, I see two prompts. "Please return to Electronic (Print slip or cancel transfer) for hold ... Confirm"
04:59 dcook and "Hold Found. Hold for...Hold at demo. Confirm hold or Ignore"
04:59 dcook Now, I believe clicking "Confirm hold" will make everything great
04:59 dcook But the top box is the most obvious and I know that I don't want to send it to Electronic, so I hit "Cancel transfer"
04:59 rangi right
05:00 dcook Hmm, this is actually looking OK
05:01 dcook Which means I must've done something different last time..
05:01 dcook Mmm
05:01 dcook Last time, I think I added another layer perhaps
05:02 dcook So that it was going from demo to electronic to demo2
05:02 * dcook gives up for now
05:02 dcook I'm going to go grab my lunch :P
05:03 cait good idea :)
05:04 dcook obstinate...can't give up...
05:05 dcook Mmm, I think I might see it..
05:05 cait using your crystal ball? :)
05:06 cait @eightball should I do my it law homework now?
05:06 huginn cait: What are you asking me for?
05:06 Amit_Gupta heya cait
05:06 cait hi Amit_Gupta
05:06 cait @eightball
05:06 huginn cait: No clue.
05:06 cait hmm
05:06 cait thought that did work
05:06 cait wahanui?
05:06 wahanui cait?
05:08 rangi that was huginn
05:08 rangi that does it
05:08 rangi @help eightball
05:08 huginn rangi: (eightball [<question>]) -- Ask a question and the answer shall be provided.
05:08 rangi @eightball why dont you work?
05:08 huginn rangi: Naturally.
05:08 cait lol
05:09 cait @eightball it-law homework?
05:09 huginn cait: The outlook is poor.
05:09 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
05:09 cait yeah, that's true
05:09 rangi hehe
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05:57 rangi hmm this doesnt seem right
05:58 rangi[…]Notices_and_Slips
05:58 rangi someone has made a page in the category agian
05:59 cait glad it was not me
05:59 cait mediawiki is still weird to me
06:00 rangi i wonder if they are still editing ill fix it when they finish
06:00 cait it seens to - last change 5:42
06:00 cait hm I mean it seems like they are
06:00 cait and my edit this morning was 4:55
06:02 cait hm maybe tweetbot should also give the link to the tweet?
06:04 rangi talk to mtj :)
06:04 cait i know :) but was waiting if you would tell me the idea was stupid
06:05 rangi hehe
06:06 rangi hmm i dont get that tweet
06:06 cait I think an insider maybe
06:06 rangi i need the french people to arrive to explain it to me :)
06:06 cait insider joke
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06:09 mveron Good morning #koha
06:09 rangi hi mveron
06:09 cait hi mveron
06:09 cait back home?
06:09 mveron hi rangi qand cait
06:09 cait @later tell mtj maybe the tweetbot should tweet a link to the tweet too?
06:09 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
06:10 * mveron is still on Sifnos, one more week :-)
06:10 mveron ...but working a little bit...
06:10 cait getting bored already? :)
06:11 mveron No :-) But it is nice to work a littel bit in the cool morning time
06:20 alex_a bonjour
06:28 rangi bonjour alex_a
06:29 cait bonjour
06:29 wahanui hello, cait
06:32 rangi alex_a: do you know Mathieu Saby?
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06:34 rangi ohh maybe a koala for kohala ?
06:34 reiveune hello
06:34 wahanui privet, reiveune
06:34 * rangi will not give up until he understands that photo
06:34 rangi hi reiveune
06:40 rangi  <-- where i am taking the family for lunch tomorrow
06:40 dcook_away Yum
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06:43 cait yum
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06:52 dcook Does anyone know if the data tables have been updated in Master since 3.8.0?
06:52 cait bbiab
06:52 dcook I'm getting "Previous" and "Next" showing up over the Previous and Next buttons in the Holds Pull list
06:53 rangi i think they have yes
06:53 dcook They seem to have lost "Previous" and "Next" as titles and have them as innerhtml instead
06:54 dcook Well, I don't know if innerhtml is the right term...
06:54 dcook But it shows as link text
06:56 rangi have you checked out the latest version of 3.8.x to test?
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06:59 dcook Yeah, it's all right in the latest 3.8.x
06:59 dcook It's just funky in Master
06:59 francharb good morning #koha
06:59 rangi hi francharb
06:59 dcook morning/afternoon francharb
06:59 francharb 0/ rangi dcook
07:02 alex_a rangi: Mathieu Saby ? mmh no
07:02 alex_a Who is he ?
07:02 wahanui he is gone again
07:02 alex_a rangi: hello ! :)
07:02 rangi i dont know :)
07:02 rangi[…]23657946205261825
07:02 mveron If I want to change the birthdate of a patron on current master, datepicker does not insert the new date. Known issue? Can anybody confirm?
07:03 mveron Changing the date manually (write directly into the field) works.
07:03 dcook I'll take a look at mine mveron
07:04 mveron Thanks, dcook
07:05 alex_a rangi: what a beautiful koala :)
07:05 rangi yep, im guessing koala for kohala ?
07:05 dcook mveron: this is the jquery datepicker?
07:05 dcook It seems to work fine for me on current master
07:06 mveron I think so, I just pulled from master
07:06 alex_a hello francharb !
07:07 dcook Hmm. I think it's a problem on your end then, as it looks like it's working nicely
07:08 mveron dcook: I use firefox 14 beta, maybe it is an issue there.
07:08 dcook Actually..
07:08 dcook I was just about to ask what browser you were using
07:08 dcook The datepicker has worked well across the board in my tests though
07:08 * dcook takes another look
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07:10 mveron dcook: It misbehaves with the year. If I change the day it works
07:11 dcook Mmm, I see what you're saying now
07:11 dcook Same thing with the month
07:12 dcook Looks like you have to actually choose the new date if you want to change the month and/or year
07:13 dcook I doubt anyone has stumbled upon that one
07:13 mveron dcook: It is'nt by design, no? Misunderstanding "done"?
07:16 dcook Mmm, good point
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07:17 clrh hello
07:17 clrh jcamins_away: I am here but not you ;)
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07:20 gaetan_B hello :)
07:21 rangi hi paul_p clrh kf and gaetan_B
07:21 kf hello gaetan_B, hello again rangi and #koha
07:21 paul_p hi rangi & kf & everyone
07:23 dcook Might be an oversight in the design mveron
07:23 dcook In any case, my brain is about to explode and I have a week from hell coming up, so I better get moving!
07:23 dcook Au revoir, tout le monde
07:24 mveron au revoir, dcook
07:24 clrh jcamins_away: ++
07:26 kf bonjour clrh :)
07:30 clrh hello kt
07:30 clrh kf
07:31 rangi new developers section added to the dashboard
07:32 kf yay!
07:32 rangi and clrh is list in it
07:32 kf rangi++
07:32 clrh rangi: hum :)
07:32 kf clrh++ :)
07:33 clrh I just submitted a patch and not sure to submit a lot more...
07:48 rangi 1 patch is more than 6 billion people have done
07:49 kf clrh: and you do work on Koha - even if it's not visible in a lot of patches :)
07:50 * paul_p tries to find a french word for "wrangler" and can't ...
07:50 clrh :)
07:50 rangi oh paul_p
07:50 rangi you might understand this
07:50 clrh the litteral translation is the guys who take care of horses
07:51 paul_p google translate says = "cow-boy" ...
07:51 rangi same in english
07:51 clrh aaaah
07:51 kf I am a cow girl then? woohoo :)
07:51 rangi you wrangle horses
07:51 kf heh
07:51 rangi but you can kinda of use it nowadays for anything
07:52 rangi herder would be another good one
07:52 rangi bug herder :)
07:52 kf I already herd cats... why not bugs
07:52 rangi paul_p:[…]23657946205261825
07:52 rangi why the koala and koha .. is it because of kohala ?
07:53 rangi someone must know, or ill be trying to figure it out all night :)
07:53 kf the kohala is a good idea
07:53 alex_a kf: i get the same problem than you on bug 5981
07:53 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5981 normal, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, ASSIGNED , OPAC: Add limits to search history
07:53 alex_a Browser freezes
07:53 alex_a :(
07:53 alex_a my_patch--
07:54 kf alex_a: you can reproduce it?
07:54 alex_a + paging broken
07:54 kf well
07:54 alex_a my_patch--
07:54 paul_p alex_a = there must be something with the configuration, because some/many don't have this problem of freeze...
07:54 alex_a kf: yes
07:54 kf I am glad you can reproduce it!!
07:54 rangi that was a confusing one
07:54 paul_p the question being = WTF difference ?
07:54 kf because now you can figure out how to stop it :)
07:54 kf and you will :)
07:54 alex_a kf: i just update ff to 13.0.1. And you ?
07:55 kf hm can't check, was testing on my laptop :(
07:55 kf but it has the latest version of whatever is in ubuntu
07:58 alex_a And i can confirm that when i comment the few lines of this patch, browser no longer freeze
07:59 rangi thats pretty awesome
07:59 rangi we can successfully break browsers with html
07:59 rangi :)
08:00 clrh kf rangi the french koha association is called kohala
08:01 clrh maybe paul_p knowws more why ;)
08:01 kf rangi: ?? :)
08:01 rangi yep, and does that sounds like koala when you pronounce it?
08:02 paul_p kohala = KOHA Libre Association
08:02 alex_a this js seems to block the query: "opac-tmpl/prog/en/lib/jquery/​plugins/jquery.highlight-3.js"
08:02 paul_p in french "Association" refer to "Association loi 1901", that is the most common NPO (99.5% of NPO are "law 1901 association")
08:02 alex_a But what is the relationship ?
08:02 clrh[…]20896173710508033[…]19668150113935361
08:03 kf paul_p: I think we know about kohala being the french user group - it's more we are still wondering about the secret behind the tweet :)
08:04 paul_p maybe they're thinking of a communication to enrole more libraries. Or change the kohala logo. I don't know
08:04 rangi alex_a: is there something that makes the page grow large and the highlight try to highlight too much?
08:05 rangi paul_p: i guess i was asking that when pronounced in french does kohala and koala sounds similar?
08:06 paul_p rangi = usually yes. But you must know that "koha" is pronounced in french like the word "quoi" which is "what". So we usually empasize the h = "kohhhha". So "kohala" is sometimes emphasized too
08:06 rangi ah ok :)
08:07 rangi mystery solved
08:07 rangi for the record i like the french pronounciation of koha a lot better than the US one
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08:12 * paul_p head to bugzilla and should work on it for the rest of friday...
08:13 alex_a rangi: nope. I just search "a"
08:13 alex_a however, "a" are not highlighted
08:13 rangi weird
08:14 alex_a yep, and i did not have this behavior before
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08:33 kf alex_a: neither did I when I signed off your patch
08:33 kf alex_a: something must have changed in between :(
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08:45 rangi hmm parse fail, i can not make heads nor tails of that email
08:47 alex_a when i comment this line "$query_desc .= ", $limit_desc";" no longer have the freeze and pager works !
08:47 alex_a So query_desc should be used somewhere
08:47 rangi hmmm
08:48 alex_a hmmm too
08:51 drojf good day #koha
08:54 rangi heya drojf
08:54 kf hi drojf
08:54 drojf hi rangi and kf :)
08:57 * drojf giggles about brooke's email
09:01 kf drojf: you speak brookish? :)
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09:04 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
09:04 rangi hi mtompset
09:06 kf hi mt
09:06 kf hi mtompset :)
09:06 kf mtompset:
09:16 mtompset Hi, kf.
09:16 mtompset Sorry for the delay.
09:16 kf np
09:17 mtompset Was chatting with my supervisor who has just switched timezones for the next while.
09:18 mtompset Sweet. Which reminds me... I need to look at some of my bugs, and see what happened to them. And figure out that one bug report that just doesn't seem to work when I do a simple rename.
09:18 mtompset Hi, rangi. Sorry for not scrolling back.
09:18 mtompset Hi, matts.
09:19 rangi no worries
09:20 * rangi goes to look at dpavlin's patch
09:25 alex_a kf: Bug 8381 is fixed (i hope). And it should fix the freezing problem too. And you're the one (with me) that can test
09:25 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8381 blocker, P1 - high, ---, alex.arnaud, ASSIGNED , Paging broken in OPAC search results
09:25 kf alex_a: I put it on my pile of things to test a minute ago - hope to get to it soon
09:25 kf but have to prepare for a presentation next week
09:26 alex_a kf: okay !
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09:39 rangi signed off 2
09:39 rangi the third one needs a lot more testing working on it now
09:42 kf which was the third one?
09:43 rangi there are 3 patches on 8418
09:45 kf bug 8418
09:45 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8418 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Koha::Calendar is_holiday ignores all user data
09:49 rangi it solves a bunch of problems
09:49 rangi if we get it in, and fix the last of the fines one, 3.8.3 should be pretty solid
09:49 kf it sure sounds like it
09:49 kf calendar is quite central to circ
09:52 slef hi all
09:52 rangi it only manifests in certain situations
09:52 rangi like all annoying bugs
09:53 slef anyone know a guide/study for consortium use of Koha?
09:53 slef rangi: predictable or a heisenbug?
09:54 kf slef: not rangi - predictable depending on configuration
09:54 kf I mean I am not rangi, but still answering .P
09:56 slef hehe
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10:18 * rangi hopes someone else takes a look at bug 8418, its too late in the night for my brain
10:18 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8418 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Koha::Calendar is_holiday ignores all user data
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10:25 Amit_Gupta bug 8415
10:25 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8415 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Link Serial with Acquisition
10:25 Amit_Gupta bug 7910
10:25 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7910 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Signed Off , Batch renewal of serials and order creation
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10:26 eythian hi papa
10:28 mtompset heisenbugs?! sucky.
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10:48 eythian I see that googling 'koha' doesn't find the main page again :/
10:49 rangi does for me
10:49 rangi 2nd on the list
10:49 eythian not here
10:49 rangi in firefox
10:49 eythian yeah
10:49 rangi weird
10:49 rangi fine here
10:50 eythian I get,, translate.k-c, kohacon12 summary, wikipedia...
10:50 rangi what about koha ils
10:50 eythian it's second there
10:51 rangi so its not what happened the other time, when it wouldnt come up anywhere, just the way they do their ranking is mental
10:51 eythian yeah. I'll be getting a combination of language=nl, country=uk results.
10:51 rangi yeah
10:52 eythian ah, it's half way down page 2
10:52 rangi not enough dutch pages linking to it :)
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10:53 rangi who knows, you could go insane trying to guess how it works
10:53 eythian ah well, went and '+1'ed it
10:53 eythian hmm, if I change the 'hl' to 'en', it appears third, after .org and wikipedia
10:53 eythian So it very much likely is that
11:01 rangi yep
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11:17 kf_lunch hmmmm
11:17 kf_lunch umlauts in the cart email are broken
11:17 kf_lunch *sigh*
11:18 * kf_lunch decides to ignore that right now
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11:42 oleonard Hi #koha
11:42 kf_lunch hi oleonard
11:58 jcamins Good news! It should be quite easy to integrate my dedup authorities stuff into BibLibre's script.
11:58 jcamins Not vice versa, though.
11:58 mtompset dedup authorities?
11:59 mtompset remove duplicates?
11:59 jcamins Right.
11:59 mtompset Oh, you were mentioning something about zebra-ish things on the list..
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12:11 jcamins paul_p_: the follow-up patches for bug 8353 wouldn't apply, so I recreated them.
12:11 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8353 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien.laurent, Passed QA , Add test to compare sysprefs in db to syspref.sql
12:12 jcamins Well, the second one wouldn't.
12:12 jcamins I also moved the script to t/db_dependent while I was at it.
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12:20 paul_p_ thx jcamins
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12:32 clrh jcamins: great for dedup!
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12:35 marcelr paul_p: i am working on bug 7167 again; hoping for the best now..
12:35 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , updatedatabase improvements
12:37 marcelr paul-p seems to be paul_p_
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12:38 paul_p_ BibLibre internet access is unstable today :\
12:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #54 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
12:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #783 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 8 days 21 hr ago)
12:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8353 follow-up adding a tiny sh in misc/maintenance <[…]4334ae7a2f8abe3ef> / Bug 8353 follow-up: Perltidy new test <[…]1f78c9df0f1b11666> / Bug 8353: Adds a test to check for missing sysprefs in the database <
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12:57 oleonard Why is the "OK" output of that script "# No tests run!" ?
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13:00 oleonard bornie21: If you have a question about Koha ask it here
13:03 paul_p oleonard = it's the way Test::More work it seems
13:04 bornie21 thnx I installed koha 3.8 on Ubuntu 12.04 & was trying to customise OPAC Preferences bt I keep getting Error: data might not be saved. session timed out
13:05 paul_p bornie21 = are you behing a (crazy) proxy by -not really a- chance ?
13:05 paul_p s/behing/behind/, of course
13:05 oleonard bornie21: have you changed Koha's timeout settings in system preferences?
13:05 paul_p if you reach another page, have you the same "timeout" thing ?
13:06 bornie21 Yeah its still timing me out and the timeout setting is set to 1d
13:08 bornie21 I think its failing to save preferences but I was able to that a couple if days ago when i changed the header html
13:10 eythian are you behind a crazy proxy?
13:10 bornie21 nope am nt using a proxy
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13:14 bornie anybody knws wht could b wrong with my OPAC saving preferences
13:15 oleonard bornie: Does your session time out when you're doing other things, or only when working with preferences?
13:16 bornie actually when I am doing other things it doesn't bt when I try to save any preference it times out
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13:17 abc HI
13:17 wahanui niihau, abc
13:17 bornie hey
13:25 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'jcamins/bug_8281_qa' <[…]2c740a3bcf077f342>
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13:34 mtompset Did anyone suggest that bornie look at the /var/log/koha/... error logs?
13:35 marcelr paul_p: joubu around?
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13:39 paul_p marcelr yep
13:39 jcamins Why don't we use yaml for permissions?
13:39 marcelr hope you do not mind some amendments in 7167
13:40 marcelr and some typos: including a dangerous one: my $koha39 =~ "3.0900000";
13:40 marcelr should be an assignment..
13:40 kf jcamins: because noone has rewritten it so far :)
13:40 kf jcamins: I woud like it - we could get a po file out of yaml too maybe and get rid of the sql files
13:40 jcamins kf: ah.
13:41 paul_p kf I think the easiest way to do it would be to put permission descriptions in templates !
13:42 kf paul_p: I think you are right
13:42 kf I looked into it once, but it generates the tree view in a way that I didn't want to break
13:42 kf or was scared to break trying to do that...
13:42 paul_p kf = was it with T::T or H::T::P ?
13:42 bornie @mtompset  I did look at the error log but there is nothing suggesting an error in system preferences
13:42 huginn bornie: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
13:43 kf paul_p: the tree view uses lots of js
13:43 kf so it's with both
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13:43 kf loopnig over stuff and such, I got confused
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13:43 jcamins kf: that's why I was suggesting yaml, like with sysprefs.
13:43 kf keep the data structure the same, but feed it from elsewhere?
13:44 kf you would have to write something to parse a po file out of it too
13:44 kf so maybe not easier
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13:44 jcamins kf: sysprefs aren't translatable?
13:44 kf they are
13:44 paul_p jcamins yes they are, in a separate file !
13:44 kf yes
13:44 kf which is good btw
13:44 jcamins Ah. Separate file is a problem. Got it.
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13:44 kf and the syspref translation script is also clever, because it keeps the strings in a good order for translations using comments
13:45 paul_p jcamins = it's not really a problem
13:45 kf nope
13:45 kf not a problem - you only have to think to teach a script to make a po out of it :)
13:45 paul_p just a fact = 3 pos to translate = staff, opac, sysprefs
13:45 bornie @ huggin wats a RDA
13:45 huginn bornie: I've exhausted my database of quotes
13:45 kf paul_p: I would like to see documentation separated out too
13:45 kf I have filed a bug for that
13:45 kf so you could do opac- staff - help - sysprefs
13:46 marcelr paul_p: 7167
13:46 kf the staff file is way too big and a good chunk of that is the help files I think
13:46 kf bug 7167
13:46 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , updatedatabase improvements
13:46 oleonard bornie: huginn is a bot who is complaining because you're putting an "@" in front of irc nicks
13:47 bornie thnx oleonard I am a newbie and its my first tym here
13:49 * wizzyrea waves
13:49 * wizzyrea yawns
13:50 mtompset Hello, wizzrea.
13:50 mtompset wizzyrea.
13:50 wahanui I LIKE SCIENCE
13:50 mtompset I thought it was I geek Libraries?
13:51 wizzyrea that too :)
13:51 kf I geek Koha? :)
13:51 wizzyrea wizzyrea?
13:51 wahanui I LIKE SCIENCE and I GEEK KOHA
13:51 wizzyrea there you go ;)
13:52 mtompset How did you change that?
13:52 * oleonard suspects with SCIENCE
13:52 mtompset As long as it isn't blinding. ;)
13:53 libsysguy libsysguy?
13:53 wahanui i heard libsysguy was Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck
13:53 * wizzyrea nods
13:53 * wizzyrea highfives libsysguy
13:53 eythian[…]&Category_Code=QC <-- mtompset
13:53 * wizzyrea giggles at mtompset
13:53 mtompset jcamins, Why is your libchi only 52? ;)
13:53 * libsysguy highfives wizzyrea back
13:54 wizzyrea he forgot to open his south facing window?
13:54 * wizzyrea makes an esoteric feng shui joke
13:54 mtompset Oh that is hilarious, eythian.
13:55 eythian wahanui: library science is <reply>[…]&Category_Code=QC
13:55 wahanui ...but library science is the kingdom of hacks :)...
13:55 * wizzyrea laughs at eythian
13:55 eythian no wahanui, library science is <reply>[…]&Category_Code=QC
13:55 wahanui okay, eythian.
13:55 mtompset library science?
13:55 wahanui[…]&Category_Code=QC
13:55 * mtompset laughs.
13:55 eythian I've been tempted to get it for wearing to conferences and client meetings.
13:55 bornie guys can I go ahead and unistall my koha then
13:56 mtompset did you check other error logs other than the koga one?
13:56 mtompset Like the apache ones?
13:57 mtompset koga should be koha.
13:57 eythian germs
13:57 eythian germs?
13:57 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
13:57 bornie apache is complaining abt a named virtual hosts
13:58 wizzyrea oh and this one for jcamins:[…]&Category_Code=QC
13:58 oleonard bornie: The fact that your problem is unfamiliar to us suggests it may be a configuration error outside of Koha's scope. That makes it difficult for us to diagnose.
13:59 bornie okay thanx for all your efforts
13:59 jcamins mtompset: Hehe.
14:00 jcamins Oh, guess those were from eythian and wizzyrea.
14:00 oleonard bornie: Since setting system preferences is an AJAX operation I wonder if there is a problem with your system which would result in the operation being attempted on a different domain or path? I'm just guessing though.
14:01 eythian bornie: what browser are you using?
14:01 bornie firefox
14:01 wahanui i heard firefox was so much better for maximep's use case of opening hundreds of tabs in tab groups. Chrome couldn't do that
14:01 wizzyrea no, wahanui, firefox is koha's preferred browser
14:01 eythian OK, that shouldn't be it then.
14:01 wahanui okay, wizzyrea.
14:01 bornie Problem = a value of 1 has been passed to param without key at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 187., referer:[…]wernumber=55&step part of the error message i hv found
14:02 eythian that's not dealing with system preferences.
14:02 wizzyrea I missed what bornie is trying to do
14:02 wizzyrea the first question?
14:02 wahanui "What are you trying to do?"  "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?"
14:02 jcamins Save sysprefs.
14:02 oleonard "thnx I installed koha 3.8 on Ubuntu 12.04 & was trying to customise OPAC Preferences bt I keep getting Error: data might not be saved. session timed out"
14:02 bornie okay am trying to customize OPAC and am getting timed out on saving
14:03 eythian bornie: have you flushed all related cookies and logged in again, in case something crazy is going on with your session?
14:03 wizzyrea ^^ this was going to be my suggestion too
14:03 wizzyrea clear cache, flush cookies
14:03 bornie yep cleared all browser hstry
14:04 oleonard And cookies?
14:04 wahanui Cookies are delicious delicacies
14:04 bornie yep and all form data too
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14:04 bornie problem is it was working well a couple of days ago
14:04 wizzyrea oooo
14:05 eythian bornie: how are you connecting? Is your browser on the Koha server, on the same LAN, or further away?
14:05 wizzyrea what changed?
14:05 gaetan_B anyone using Item Circulation Alerts and can give me explanations ? (is it still really used ?)
14:05 bornie just recently  added custom html for my header
14:05 wizzyrea AHA
14:05 wizzyrea so
14:05 * wizzyrea has actually, if you can believe it, seen this before
14:06 wizzyrea you have something malformed in your html
14:06 bornie etythian am actually on the server
14:06 wizzyrea you will have to delete what is in your preference from the db
14:06 eythian OK.
14:06 bornie how do I do that wizzy
14:07 eythian bornie: you're using the packages, right?
14:07 wizzyrea well, you can *try* deleting it all from the interface
14:07 oleonard Try it here: /cgi-bin/koha/admin/
14:07 wizzyrea go into the opac preferences, remove the stuff in the header
14:07 marcelr paul_p: amending another dangerous typo: _get_queries  -> get_queries
14:07 wizzyrea and save it
14:07 wizzyrea it *ought* to work
14:07 bornie sorry am kinda new to koha wat packages
14:07 wizzyrea if you can't do that
14:07 wizzyrea we'll talk about nuking it from the database
14:07 eythian bornie: how did you install Koha? (but try what wizzyrea is saying first)
14:08 bornie I used the instructions on the koha wiki
14:08 wizzyrea bornie
14:08 wizzyrea try just deleting what is in your header
14:08 wizzyrea and save the system preferences
14:08 wizzyrea see if it works better
14:08 jcamins bornie: which instructions?
14:08 bornie ok thnx will see about tht
14:09 wizzyrea if we need to we'll do it the hard way
14:09 wizzyrea but do try the easy way first :)
14:09 bornie ok
14:10 bornie jcamins:Koha on ubuntu
14:10 eythian pity, I could send you one command to fix it if it were done with packages.
14:10 eythian (well, to unset the syspref)
14:12 wizzyrea I suspect just removing the html from the preference will allow it to save - but maybe not
14:15 wizzyrea …I hope that means we fixed
14:15 wizzyrea it
14:17 jcamins wizzyrea: or he hit refresh.
14:19 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.6.x build #54: SUCCESS in 1 hr 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/54/
14:19 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7496 - Personally identifying information sent in opac user TITLE
14:19 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 8001: [SIGNED-OFF] improve styling potential of the tag list
14:19 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7604 - Link on basket group name for closed basket groups is broken
14:19 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7948 - Printing transfer slip loses barcode field focus
14:19 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 3521 - Items table in catalogue/ and cataloguing/ is sorted nonsensically
14:19 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 5795 [SIGNED-OFF] - Missing ReservesControlBranch system pref in database installer
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7496 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Personally identifying information sent in opac user TITLE
14:19 jenkins_koha * amit.gupta: Bug 5795 Update the database as follow-up If sys pref
14:19 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8080 - login and password is pre-filled by the browser when creating a new patron
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8001 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , Add some styling to the tags to allow them to be distinctive
14:19 jenkins_koha * simon.story: Bug 6684: Fixes to koha-remove
14:19 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Welcome to the 182th commiter !
14:19 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 8144 - 775 tag in the MARC record causes display issue
14:19 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Fixing FSF address and copyright headers
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7604 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Link on basket group name for closed basket groups is broken
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7948 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , Printing transfer slip loses barcode field focus
14:19 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Fixing FSF address and copyright statements
14:19 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 Fixing FSF statements
14:19 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Adding missing license statement
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3521 trivial, P3, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Stable , Items table in catalogue/ and cataloguing/ is sorted nonsensically
14:19 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Fixing FSF address and copyright headers for acqui/
14:19 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Adding copyright headers and fixing FSF addresses
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5795 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Missing ReservesControlBranch system pref in database installer
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8080 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , login and password is pre-filled by the browser when creating a new patron
14:19 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8140 - [SIGNED-OFF] Error when exporting label xml
14:19 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7599 - [SIGNED-OFF] Cart JavaScript contains untranslatable English strings
14:19 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7847: OPAC search dies with Plack
14:19 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8111 - Language chooser display problem in self-checkout
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6684 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , koha-remove should check the number of arguments it gets
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8144 critical, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , 775 tag in the MARC record causes display issue
14:19 jenkins_koha * kolpen: Bug 8116 : Fixing warn in error log
14:19 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Welcome to Piotr Kowalski, that is 183th
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4330 normal, P3, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Copyright statements out of date
14:19 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 8082: Fixing circulation.pref to match reality for IssuingInProcess
14:19 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 3638 Self Check Should Capture Hold Items
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8140 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , Error when exporting label xml
14:19 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 3638 : Captured Holds may need to generate a transfer
14:19 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 8176 [SIGNED-OFF] Assign an intial value to $sqlwhere
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7599 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Cart JavaScript contains untranslatable English strings
14:19 jenkins_koha * mjr: bug 7894 [SIGNED-OFF]: crude fix: convert results array into an arrayref
14:19 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 8201: Receive date not passed through correctly
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7847 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , OPAC search dies with plack
14:19 jcamins Good grief.
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8111 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Language chooser display problem in self-checkout
14:19 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7548: Missing arguments when receiving orders
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8116 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , z3950 empty search causes silent warning in koha-error_log
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8082 major, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Stable , The:  IssuingInProcess  configuration setting is working in reverse.
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3638 normal, P2, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Status of hold not changed when item checked in via SIP2 Interface
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8176 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , $sqlwhere is undefined in C4::Serials in GetSubscriptions
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7894 blocker, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Broken detail page for first link on page 2 from search result page in OPAC
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8201 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , can't change receive date
14:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7548 normal, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, Pushed to Stable , Missing arguments in the pagination of receptions
14:20 jcamins Sorry about that.
14:20 * oleonard moans 'Oh, the scrolling!'
14:20 kf oh wow
14:20 marcelr :)
14:20 kf ah marcelr++ btw :)
14:20 marcelr ?
14:20 kf tackling all those big patches for qa :)
14:21 marcelr bug 7167 should really pass now but. ..
14:21 jcamins 3.6.7 should be pretty nice. :)
14:21 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , updatedatabase improvements
14:22 jcamins kf: there was no 3.6.x patch for e-mailing carts.
14:22 kf it's ok
14:23 kf we fixed it with separate templates
14:23 marcelr paul_p: still there?
14:23 wahanui there is, like, no spoon. or something like the second with holes like the first... or a patch from jared soemwhere removing some of the nozebra code
14:23 kf and we also fixed acq manually
14:23 kf so at the moment it's not hurting so much
14:23 jcamins I replaced the file with conflicts with the version from 3.8.x and applied the patch to 3.6-testing, but that will need to be tested prior to going into 3.6.8.
14:23 * jcamins heads into the city.
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14:24 paul_p marcelr = yep, i'm still here
14:25 marcelr paul_p: i am amending the patch
14:25 marcelr but still finding errors
14:25 marcelr i will submit it soon but need your testing again
14:25 paul_p marcelr = you can count on me !!!
14:26 marcelr how long will you be there  still?
14:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #783: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/783/
14:40 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5644 : Fixing dropbox mode calculation
14:40 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8283 - Replace usage of YUI Cookie utility with jQuery Cookie plugin
14:40 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 8315 - remove use C4::* version
14:40 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7411: Follop-up: Add Text::Unaccent to
14:40 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6394: purchase order has French strings hard coded in
14:40 jenkins_koha * henridamien.laurent: Bug 8353: Adds a test to check for missing sysprefs in the database
14:40 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5644 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , dropbox mode doesn't set the correct date
14:40 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8353 follow-up: Perltidy new test
14:40 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8283 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace usage of YUI Cookie utility with jQuery Cookie plugin
14:40 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 8353 follow-up adding a tiny sh in misc/maintenance
14:40 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8315 major, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , fix 'C4::Output 3.02' errors in Koha
14:40 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7411 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , remove diacritics when automatically generating userid
14:40 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6394 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , purchase order has french hard coded in
14:40 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8353 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien.laurent, Pushed to Master , Add test to compare sysprefs in db to syspref.sql
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14:41 jenkins_koha Starting build #784 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 8 days 23 hr ago)
14:41 paul_p_ and another internet connexion failure...
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14:42 * oleonard regrets that the low-hanging fruit is gone in his YUI-removal project
14:42 kf oleonard: I love all the new updated elements
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14:43 kf oleonard: what is missing?
14:43 wahanui i guess missing is usualy library only, an item that's not out
14:44 oleonard Menus and buttons mostly. I was also hoping to be able to replace the greybox library with jQueryUI Dialog, but that turned out to be more complex than I anticipated
14:45 oleonard Greybox does some things out of the box that I'm having trouble replicating with jqueryUI dialog
14:47 oleonard The drag and drop stuff in basketgroups will have to be updated too.
14:47 kf oleonard: hm I think buttons would be nice
14:47 kf but lots of work
14:48 kf maybe can be done in steps?
14:48 * kf could help
14:48 kf it would be awesome to get it all done for 3.10
14:50 oleonard Buttons and menus are tied together so closely that they really have to be done at the same time
14:50 kf ah ok
14:50 kf any news on the menu developmentß
14:51 kf ?
14:51 kf
14:51 kf still in developement it seems :(
14:51 oleonard Yeah
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15:13 nengard is there a way in git to remove all branches but the one you're on?
15:13 nengard I need to do a purge cause I have way too many branches that I don't need/use
15:13 nengard and don't want to delete them one by one
15:14 eythian I never delete branches
15:14 eythian but you can't delete the one you're on anyway
15:14 eythian so, I'd delete everything.
15:14 eythian (and it'll leave that one behind)
15:14 nengard and how do i do that?
15:14 eythian for br in `git branch` ; do git branch -D $br ; done
15:15 eythian something like that (untested obviously)
15:15 nengard heh
15:15 eythian I'm 5 branches short of 200, I can't delete them now anyway ;)
15:17 nengard is 200 a magic number?
15:17 eythian no, it's just round.
15:17 nengard oh :)
15:18 slef eythian: $(git branch) not `git branch` Shirley?
15:18 eythian slef: for throwaway commands, it makes no difference.
15:18 eythian (also: habit :)
15:18 nengard slef so  ---    for br in $(git branch) ; do git branch -D $br ; done
15:19 slef nengard: I don't see why not... it's not how I'd write it, but it's only dialectal differences ;-)
15:20 nengard eythian's way worked
15:20 nengard thank you both!
15:20 nengard i'm one of those people who likes things clean and i had a ton of junk in there
15:20 slef eythian: git branch | while read br ; do git branch -D "$br" ; done # because you just know someone will put a space in a branch name one day ;-)
15:21 eythian yeah, it's just slef typing with a funny accent :)
15:21 slef I always type "git branch -l" too... not sure why
15:22 slef eythian: git branch -l | xargs git branch -D
15:22 eythian if someone puts a space in a branch name, they deserve everything they get :)
15:22 eythian that would be a better solution, yeah
15:22 slef now with ADDED xargs! MORE angels on EVERY pin!
15:23 eythian heh
15:23 eythian git branch -D `git branch` if you want to avoid a pipe
15:23 slef string reparsing or a pipe... tough choice
15:24 eythian yeah
15:24 slef can we get a nonlinear pipe in there somehow?
15:24 eythian also, this isn't the early 80's any more.
15:24 slef bash thinks it is
15:25 eythian I dunno, command completion is pretty hefty
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15:28 slef what's a doublon?
15:28 slef No definitions found for "doublon", perhaps you mean: gcide:  Doubloon wn:  doubloon moby-thes:  doubloon
15:29 slef #   recover the category type if the borrowers is a doublon
15:29 slef
15:29 slef Doubloon \Doub*loon"\, n. [F. doublon, Sp. doblon. See {Double}, a., and cf. {Dupion}.] A Spanish gold coin, no longer issued, varying in value at different times from over fifteen dollars to about five. See {Doblon} in Sup. [1913 Webster]
15:29 slef errr, seems a bit unlikely
15:30 slef anyone here got a library that issues books to gold coins?
15:30 gaetan_B bye :)
15:30 slef that thing that could be a doublon is the second element returned by checkuniquemember
15:30 eythian slef: I expect jcamins_away would be the closest :)
15:31 slef numismatics :)
15:31 eythian gaetan_B: see you shortly :)
15:32 slef C4::Members calls it "C<&categorycode> is from categorycode table"
15:32 slef which is actually wrong because it takes it from borrowers table!
15:33 slef anyway, that doesn't matter right now
15:40 jcamins slef: the ANS only let's people read books about coins, not coins read books about people. ;)
15:43 eythian no jcamins, in Soviet Russia, coins read books about numismaticists.
15:43 * jcamins waves to larryb
15:44 larryb Hey jcamins
15:44 wahanui i heard jcamins was A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins
15:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #784: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/784/
15:44 jenkins_koha oleonard: Bug 8281 - Remove unused YUI files
15:44 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8281 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove unused YUI files
15:45 jcamins Hmm. Looks like the 3.6-testing branch failed some tests.
15:45 jcamins (if it hadn't, it would've been pushed a half hour ago or so)
15:45 nengard been working on db documentation again bug 6716 could use some review/sign off
15:45 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6716 enhancement, P3, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , Database Documentation
15:45 nengard should be pretty easy
15:46 nengard doing more today
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15:50 jcamins paul_p_: do you have a repo with your RM scripts?
15:51 reiveune1 bye
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15:51 paul_p_ jcamins nope, but I planned to send them to the next RM ;-)
15:51 jcamins paul_p_: ah.
15:51 jcamins You should. :)
15:51 paul_p_ basically, I have 2 or 3 only. Plus git hooks that are already on the wiki
15:52 paul_p_ jcamins = should I push them to contribs/ReleaseManagement/paul_p/*, for example ?
15:53 jcamins That'd be very useful. :)
15:53 jcamins Or you could push them to release-tools.
15:54 * jcamins improved his juggernaut script to automatically push if all the tests pass, thus allowing the computer to spend several hours running tests while he is asleep.
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15:57 eythian nengard: unless there's something unusual going on with your email, I think your computer clock is way wrong.
15:57 nengard hmmm
15:57 nengard Thu Jul 12 09:23:22 EDT 2012
15:57 nengard not WAY
15:57 nengard but yes, wrong
15:57 nengard it always happens to my VM
15:57 nengard no one has given me a foolproof way to stop that from happening
15:58 eythian well, for a computer, anything outside of 10 seconds is way wrong ;)
15:58 jcamins Enable ntp.
15:58 eythian what is your VM running?
15:58 eythian jcamins: ntp gives up if things are miles out.
15:58 jcamins eythian: really?
15:58 eythian I think so.
15:58 eythian what I really mean is "what is your VM software?"
15:58 nengard yeah i think we tried ntp
15:58 nengard i'm on debian
15:59 nengard and i don't have the vm on all the time
15:59 nengard so it loses time
15:59 nengard oh
15:59 nengard virtualbox
15:59 wahanui virtualbox is good for that sort of thing
15:59 eythian do you sleep it?
15:59 nengard no i turn it off
15:59 nengard no need for it to be running
15:59 nengard just like those extra branches :)
15:59 eythian hmm, it should come back with system time when it restarts.
15:59 nengard it's on most of the work week
15:59 eythian time in VMs is always a pain.
15:59 nengard and then i turn it off on the weekends
16:00 nengard people have been saying that to me for years but it never seems to happen that way
16:00 ropuch Hello #koha :)
16:00 paul_p_ 6PM here, *lot* of work done on koha (patches QAed, pushed, ...), time for my family now !
16:00 nengard now i have a script i run when i turn the vm on to run zebra and other crons
16:00 nengard can i add the date function to that in some way?
16:00 jcamins I have never had a problem with the clock on my VM, and I don't run it all the time.
16:00 nengard paul_p++
16:00 nengard jcamins then i want to know your secret
16:01 nengard for now though i manually fixed it and i'll continue writing patches :)
16:01 eythian nengard: two things: make sure virtualbox-ose-guest-utils and virtualbox-ose-guest-dkms are installed in the VM
16:01 eythian nengard: and yes, you can add 'ntpdate to an hourly cron job to keep things in sync.
16:01 jcamins nengard: I don't think I did anything special.
16:02 nengard eythian, i don't have crons running, i'm just manually running everything once when i turn the vm back on cause i don't need them running all the time
16:02 nengard and how do i check to see if those are installed
16:02 nengard ?
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16:02 jcamins Or ntpd -g -q
16:02 eythian nengard: apt-cache policy
16:02 ropuch Open Source
16:02 wahanui well, Open Source is strong and solid partly because different people are working through the system
16:02 ropuch Uh
16:02 eythian nengard: but you will have a cron daemon running, it'd be weird not to.
16:03 ropuch Running hwclock on boot time should do the trick also
16:03 nengard okay apt-cache policy  did not show those 2 files you mentioned
16:03 eythian ok, then apt-get install them
16:03 eythian It's very likely to make difference
16:04 nengard installing
16:04 eythian (it lets debian talk directly to the host to get that sort of info)
16:04 nengard and ropuch what is hwclock?
16:04 nengard do i need it if these installs work?
16:04 eythian no
16:04 nengard k
16:04 jcamins man 8 hwclock
16:04 eythian it's a thing that syncs between hardware and system clocks
16:04 eythian though, I don't know what the hardware clock would do in a VM anyway,
16:05 ropuch eythian: yea, I just scrolled the log back and I don;t think that will help nengard
16:05 ropuch nengard: forget about hwclock ;>
16:05 nengard hehe
16:05 nengard will do
16:05 nengard erased from my memory
16:07 pastebot "nengard" at pasted "eythian: this is what i see after installing those packages .... think maybe they didn't really install :)" (17 lines) at
16:07 eythian oh
16:07 eythian I miswrote:
16:08 eythian apt-cache policy virtualbox-ose-guest-dkms
16:08 eythian it'll say something like: virtualbox-ose-guest-dkms:
16:08 eythian Geïnstalleerd: 3.2.10-dfsg-1
16:08 eythian Kandidaat:     3.2.10-dfsg-1
16:08 pastebot "nengard" at pasted "is this better?" (8 lines) at
16:08 nengard yep
16:08 nengard i think that's right
16:09 eythian yes, except where it says '(none)' that should be a version
16:09 nengard hmmm
16:09 nengard this one: "sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose-guest-dkms " gave me some 404 errors
16:09 nengard this one: " apt-get install virtualbox-ose-guest-utils" seemed to work
16:09 eythian ah, then run sudo apt-get update first
16:09 eythian your packages list is out of date I suspect.
16:10 nengard yup .. seems that way
16:10 nengard stuff being downloaded
16:10 * slef goes for a coffee break before testing his fix to bug 6697
16:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6697 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Empty Organisation(s) field for organisational patrons
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16:14 nengard eythian okay it's installed
16:14 nengard now what?
16:14 wahanui now is good time with holidays coming up
16:14 nengard is it just magic?
16:14 eythian should be, yeah
16:14 nengard we'll see next week :)
16:15 nengard thank you!
16:15 eythian It _might_ be working now, or it may take a reboot of the guest OS.
16:15 nengard okay - i'll do that at lunch
16:17 nengard hmmmm ? what's this table?
16:17 nengard Default checkout, hold and return policy
16:17 nengard oops
16:17 nengard paste wrong
16:17 nengard default_borrower_circ_rules;
16:17 nengard mine has data but i don't know where it's coming from
16:18 nengard in my table it looks like the categorycode is actually the itype - not a patron category
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16:19 jcamins marcelr++ # for spending a lot of time on bug 7167
16:20 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , updatedatabase improvements
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16:21 Shane-S could anyone direct me to the best documentation for installing 3.8.2 on Ubuntu 10.04... I remember using[…]ing_Koha_packages with 3.6.4 and having issues
16:22 eythian Shane-S: the packages work on 12.04, with one issue that I'm hoping to fix soon.
16:22 eythian fwiw.
16:22 slef packages?
16:22 wahanui packages is, like, at
16:22 oleonard Shane-S: Or you could refer to the INSTALL file included with Koha
16:22 jcamins Shane-S: there are even more dependencies that won't be in Lucid.
16:23 jcamins Shane-S: 12.04 is a LTS release.
16:23 jcamins I would seriously consider using it.
16:23 Shane-S okay I will have to try that then
16:23 slef Shane-S: for packages, INSTALL.* files included with Koha for "straight" install.
16:23 jcamins In fact, I would go so far as to say you should not use Lucid for 3.8+
16:24 jcamins[…]ki/Koha_on_Ubuntu has instructions for installing Koha on Lucid, but, as I know I've already told you, better to use packages.
16:24 eythian You _will_ encounter an issue with database permissions however.
16:24 Shane-S that sounds manageable
16:25 Shane-S I had Zebra issues with 10.04 3.6.4 and you all help me get it working, but I want to no mess with it, as this will be my production install
16:25 Shane-S Ill go make a 12.04 VM
16:26 eythian all you need to do is manually create a new mysql user, and you can't use '%' as wildcard like you can in older versions.
16:26 eythian (which is why it breaks koha at the moment)
16:26 Shane-S does desktop matter?
16:26 jcamins Woohoo! I love thorough testing!
16:26 eythian I tend to not to do desktop, but realistically it doesn't.
16:27 Shane-S I don't need major power we have under 10K books, realistically 6K but they never clear their old records
16:28 eythian within reason, size of the collection doesn't matter terribly much, especially not at those levels.
16:28 jcamins Shane-S: Desktop vs. Server is basically just a difference between what's installed by default.
16:28 jcamins FWIW, I never use desktop.
16:29 Shane-S just trying to remember if the gui is an option or if I have to look up how to apt-get it
16:30 jcamins You probably shouldn't be allowing anyone to use the server directly.
16:30 Shane-S its for me, I like my mouse :P
16:31 eythian but you don't actually use the mouse when running a server.
16:31 Shane-S I do for the browser and IRC
16:32 eythian I also don't actually work directly on the server, I ssh into it from a real desktop machine.
16:32 eythian (even if that server is in a VM on my desktop machine)
16:32 slef browse+IRC from workstation, not server, or are you short of computers?
16:32 jcamins Yeah, what they said.
16:32 slef if so, I think there's an argument for working on the server
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16:32 slef else it's a bit of an unnecessary risk, what with all the nasties on the internet
16:33 Shane-S Well, I try to remote when I can, but sometimes it helps to be in there as it is more a get away from interruptions and focus kind of deal
16:34 Shane-S when I am at my desk people come to my door with the "Are you busy?" question and proceed to give me their issues before I go "Yes I am@"
16:34 eythian I have noise cancelling headphones for that :)
16:34 Shane-S okay well I will go with server, no gui and see how I fair
16:34 Shane-S its a VM anyway right now
16:35 Shane-S then I have to see if I can import it inot my server running ESXi
16:35 eythian Shane-S: if you install from packages, you can use koha-dump and koha-restore if moving the VM itself is tricky.
16:36 Shane-S oh cool, I am hoping to move the VM, because I am networkless atm in work. I had to remove my server racks which held all the servers and main switches for asbestos removal
16:37 Shane-S supposed to be done this week, I will see
16:37 Shane-S so I am working at home with my computer and Virtual Box in the hopes I can migrate my installs
16:37 eythian ah right
16:38 eythian it is technically possible to export a vbox vm and load into a vmware thing, I think, but I've never done it.
16:38 eythian well, vbox can import vmware images, so I assume it can export them...
16:39 Shane-S yeah and it should be able to do the open format as well both support it (escaping me now think it is vox)
16:39 eythian ah, I just presumed that vmware wouldn't support that :)
16:40 BrianJPS Hey all, I'm interested in using Koha for a small library.  I'm trying to figure out what are the pre reqs for running it and just how to get started.  I'm on a windows-based system and am a bit of a layman.  Could someone help?
16:40 eythian BrianJPS: the basic prereq is a Linux server, Koha itself won't run on Windows (though you can access it from windows.)
16:41 jcamins BrianJPS: you'll want to use VirtualBox for testing, since Koha runs under Linux.
16:41 * eythian is done for the day I think, last day in Brighton.
16:42 BrianJPS alright, and with a Linux server it'll be straight forward to get started?
16:43 eythian BrianJPS: if you have experience with working with Linux, fairly.
16:43 BrianJPS great, thanks
16:43 jcamins packages?
16:43 wahanui packages is at
16:44 jcamins ^^ that page explains how to install Koha.
16:44 BrianJPS excellent, I'll check it out
16:52 Shane-S what server option should i check beyond LAMP if any to help with the install later?
16:52 jcamins SSH.
16:52 jcamins Very important.
16:52 jcamins Actually, that's the only thing I install.
16:52 jcamins Base distribution and SSH.
16:53 Shane-S oh I am just at the core screen, where you can pick DNS, so do you mean the openSSH option?
16:53 jcamins That's what I meant.
16:53 Shane-S okay thanks
16:54 jcamins It has about five options, I think. "Base distribution," "Database," maybe "Web server," and "OpenSSH," at least.
16:54 Shane-S yeah there a bunch of options
16:54 Shane-S i always do lamp, never did the SSH one
16:56 Shane-S oh lunch....I should get some of that too!
16:56 jcamins I choose only "Base distribution" (or whatever they call it) and "OpenSSH)
16:58 Shane-S lol I love my system...ith 6 CPU cores, I am running a game, virtual box, irc, and firefox, and I am only at 20% load, with 10Gb ram left :P
16:58 Shane-S only 1 VM in VB though, so I am sure the ram will go down lots more as I launch more vms
16:58 jcamins Wow.
16:59 jcamins At some point I will break down and get a desktop.
17:00 Shane-S it only cost me $800 in parts 2 years ago, grnated I recycled my case, DVD-RWs, and 1 HD, but should run someone like 400 or less today
17:00 Shane-S downfall is mY HD, I want to get a solid state
17:00 jcamins The thing is that if I wait a year and a half, it'll cost that much for something twice as fast.
17:00 Shane-S just don't have the $600 to spend to get 500Gb
17:01 Shane-S yeah only issue with hardware, obsolete the moment you hit "checkout" :)
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17:03 Shane-S I do miss my Macbook Pro through, it had a lovely 4-5 hours of battery life
17:04 Shane-S my boss'es kids spilled soda on hers, so I had to give her mine, as that was all she had
17:04 Shane-S now I have my crappy old HP laptop that dies in 45 minutes
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17:19 kf marcelr++
17:23 slef kf wins today's nonsequitur award!
17:24 * jcamins followed just fine.
17:24 kf the what award?
17:24 jcamins A "non sequitur" is a statement that doesn't follow from the previous conversation.
17:24 kf ah
17:24 kf well, jcamins followed just fine :P
17:25 jcamins Usually I win that award with observations like "the problem with blackberries is that the seeds are too hard for the immersion blender to chop up."
17:25 jcamins Though oleonard knew what I was talking about when I said that yesterday.
17:26 kf I do too
17:26 kf you got blackberries this week
17:26 jcamins I did. And why was I trying to chop up the seeds in the immersion blender?
17:26 kf hmmmmmmmm
17:26 kf salad?
17:26 wahanui salad is a definite possibility.
17:27 jcamins Smoothie.
17:27 kf aaah would have been my next guess ;)
17:46 datadoctor idreambooks wrote back to me - they offer a free read-o-meter widget, but most materials have only been reviewed by a few dozen people - they are working on their API, and need reviews for more materials.
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17:46 datadoctor So their read-o-meter is cool, but doesn't have the data backing it up yet.
17:46 jcamins datadoctor: you could probably incorporate that into Koha with jQuery?
17:47 datadoctor Yes, jquery :)
17:48 jcamins Of course, I guess there's no point if they don't have useful data.
17:49 datadoctor I like the concept, free access to book reviews - maybe it will catch on - they should probably put some of their funding toward getting librarians to review new books for their site!
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17:58 datadoctor I'm installing 3.8 today, and wondering about the best method - do you recommend the git method or the download for Debian? Or a combination approach?
17:59 jcamins Packages for production, git for development.
17:59 datadoctor That makes sense.
18:02 datadoctor Am I going to need to download a bunch of cpan stuff separately, or is that a part of the packages?
18:02 jcamins All part of the packages.
18:02 jcamins No CPANing involved.
18:02 datadoctor Cool. Thanks!
18:02 jcamins At least, I don't think there is.
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18:16 drojf hi #koha
18:16 cait hi drojf :)
18:17 drojf hey cait :)
18:17 cait a coworker told me a story today
18:18 drojf showed my coworker bugzilla. she even tried a sandbox
18:18 cait about that guy who was running koha on a raspberry pi
18:18 drojf hewh
18:18 drojf heh
18:18 cait :)
18:19 drojf so, will you change to a rack full of raspberry pi for koha? :)
18:25 nengard anyone know what issuingrules.restrictedtype is for?
18:25 nengard it's NULL for all of my rules
18:34 drojf kohacon 2013 voting frenzy seems to be over
18:34 cait yeah
18:35 jcamins drojf: Nigeria is well ahead?
18:35 drojf everybody used up all their twenty email addresses? :P
18:35 jcamins lol
18:35 drojf jcamins: a little
18:37 jcamins Deadline is Wednesday?
18:37 drojf i think its tuesday
18:37 drojf 17th afair
18:37 jcamins Ah.
18:39 jcamins Is there any way to sort serial issues on the OPAC by issue date/number rather than received date?
18:39 cait hm there is a patch to change the sorting
18:39 cait but I tink it's not by date number
18:39 jcamins I feel like I discussed this with someone before, and there is, but I'm not sure when.
18:40 cait because there are numbering schemes where that would not work out
18:40 cait I think it was changed to be publication date
18:40 jcamins Ah, yup.
18:40 jcamins That's what I meant.
18:42 cait i think the patch is there, maybe even waiting for signoff still
18:42 jcamins Signed off. :)
18:42 cait cool
18:42 jcamins Once you told me where to look, I found it.
18:42 cait bug memory :)
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18:53 nengard I'll probably do it on Weds to make up for any time diff changes
18:54 jcamins Do what?
18:54 jcamins It's already signed off by Elliott.
18:54 cait closing the vote I think
18:54 jcamins Oh.
18:54 jcamins Got it.
18:55 nengard yes
18:55 nengard sorry
18:55 nengard doing too many things at once
18:56 drojf i think it should be known beforehand when the vote is closed
18:56 cait nengard: the tags thing has a bug in htere, it happened when we removed the nonsense tooltip
18:56 nengard okay
18:56 nengard drojf i told everyone the 17th was the last day to vote
18:56 nengard so when I wake up on the 18th I'll close it
18:56 nengard but I can send a reminder out
18:57 drojf alright. it sounded a little like "when i feel like" ;)
18:58 Shane-S can I pull up the readme from less /usr/share/doc/koha-common/README.Debian online anywhere so I can work in two windows
18:58 jcamins README.Debian? Never heard of that file.
18:58 wizzyrea he means install.debian i thikn
18:59 jcamins But install.debian doesn't explain how to use packages.
18:59 jcamins packages?
18:59 wahanui somebody said packages was at
18:59 jcamins ^^ just follow those instructions
18:59 wizzyrea[…]LL.debian;hb=HEAD but do it from the wiki.
19:00 Shane-S The wiki says "Read the README.Debian file for instructions on how to configure Koha after the package is installed. "
19:01 jcamins Oh.
19:01 jcamins Hm.
19:01 * jcamins still has never heard of that file.
19:01 Shane-S and it talks about enabling Apache mods, database stuff, all commands I have to issue, but the README is in my way :P
19:01 jcamins But...
19:01 jcamins[…]ee733a163;hb=HEAD
19:02 Shane-S there we go, thanks that one was it :P
19:02 Shane-S no I can put my pen and paper away :D
19:02 Shane-S Thank you jcamins
19:02 jcamins Hehe.
19:02 jcamins You're welcome.
19:03 jcamins BTW, you know the point of installing SSH was so that you could SSH into the server and have multiple terminals open, right?
19:04 ago43 Hi, any jquery pro's out there?
19:05 * jcamins tries to avoid correcting the apostrophe, fails. :P
19:05 wizzyrea ago is that everything that's in there?
19:06 wizzyrea what is the entire contents of opacuserjs
19:06 ago43 lemme check that.  I was copying from an e-mail, so maybe that's not all.
19:07 Shane-S jcamins: I am fighting with Virtual Box right now setup the network with NAT so I have to add I am just working from the VB screen
19:07 jcamins Shane-S: ah. Gotcha.
19:07 * wizzyrea has had that happen, it was always related to a missing somethingerother in another statement *before* the one I added.
19:07 ago43 ahh.
19:08 jcamins Or a string change.
19:08 jcamins You should add a class or id.
19:08 slef jcamins: fessional is omitted
19:09 jcamins slef: lol
19:09 Shane-S Apache... Listen 80 do I add space 8080 or another listen line
19:09 jcamins I don't buy it.
19:09 jcamins Another line.
19:09 Shane-S ty
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19:09 oleonard Works for me ago43
19:10 ago43 thanks.  then wizzy must be right about an earlier entry causing the problem.
19:10 oleonard Also, I can't save preferences because it says my session has timed out!
19:11 * wizzyrea gives oleonard "the look"
19:11 Shane-S[…]ee733a163;hb=HEAD Line 25, I assume that mean doing Listen edit OR the alternate and not just if you did the alternate?
19:11 oleonard Seriously.
19:11 wizzyrea … really?
19:11 jcamins Shane-S: if you are using virtual hosts, you don't need to add the Listen.
19:11 wizzyrea it's infectious today
19:11 jcamins However, there is no harm in doing the Listen anyway.
19:12 oleonard "NetworkError: 400 Bad Request - http://localhost:8888/cgi-bin/[…]ystempreferences/"
19:12 wizzyrea master?
19:12 wahanui master is for 3.6
19:12 oleonard Yes
19:12 wizzyrea 1s
19:13 jcamins wahanui: forget master
19:13 wahanui jcamins: I forgot master
19:13 jcamins That does not look right.
19:13 Shane-S jcamins: I thought that was for apache to know if I do it will load, how does the VM affect that?
19:14 jcamins Shane-S: the VM does not affect it at all. You just set up NAT to point whichever ports you want to
19:14 Shane-S wow jcamins has a person bot slave the forgets random stuff!
19:14 wizzyrea hm
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19:14 wizzyrea I can save them
19:14 wizzyrea what do you have in your opacuserjs/
19:14 Shane-S jcamins: yeah so I could redirect 8080 to 80, but I thought Koha used 8080 for something
19:15 jcamins Shane-S: 80 is for the OPAC, 8080 is for the staff client.
19:15 jcamins Apparently the query is supposed to end with a slash.
19:15 * wizzyrea thinks it feels odd to ask oleonard what is in his opacuserjs
19:15 jcamins Odd.
19:16 oleonard Don't be shy wizzyrea, ask away. We're all grownups.
19:16 cait lol
19:17 oleonard First I had nothing, then I had ago43's snippet. In neither case can I save via (using works)
19:18 oleonard Ah, and I'll bet I know what has changed...
19:18 * oleonard checks
19:20 * Shane-S feels like the README is missing the "disbale apache default site instruction...and he can't remember the built in line
19:20 jcamins sudo a2dissite default
19:20 Shane-S ty
19:21 slef it might be missing because if you do that and you have another site on there -> brokenness
19:21 oleonard Okay, yeah. What changed is that I set the timeout setting from 12000000 to 1d
19:22 slef mmm, old pennies!
19:22 Shane-S okay now I get software errors, looks like the user error you spoke of earlier, just need to give access permissions to the MySQL db for that user correct?
19:22 jcamins Shane-S: right.
19:22 slef mysql_setpermission
19:22 oleonard ...because that's what bornie21 had changed it to
19:24 jcamins Isn't it supposed to be in milliseconds?
19:25 oleonard "Adding d will specify it in days, e.g. 1d is timeout of one day. "
19:25 jcamins Huh.
19:25 jcamins Didn't know that.
19:26 cait it's quite new
19:26 cait well old ad rediscovered
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19:26 oleonard Bug 6701
19:26 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6701 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , language on timeout system preference is wrong
19:27 jcamins Ooh, I think I pushed that 3.6.x.
19:27 jcamins I shall revert.
19:27 oleonard That's just the description change
19:28 oleonard I don't know about the underlying code
19:28 jcamins Right... if it doesn't tell you that you can enter "1d" no one will think they can.
19:28 slef should members/ search town/city?
19:30 slef @query town
19:30 huginn slef: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3766 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Cities/Towns and Road Types only on one address
19:31 * oleonard is off
19:31 oleonard Bye #koha
19:32 cait bye oleonard
19:36 Shane-S okay so I manually did a grant all on koha_nps.* TO 'koha_nps'@'localhost'; and droped the user with the % for the location and I still have the software error
19:37 jcamins Shane-S: did you set the password to the same as was specified in the koha-conf.xml file?
19:38 Shane-S that I did not, can I change it in the xml or just set it MYSQL to what is in the XML?
19:38 jcamins I'd do the latter.
19:38 jcamins You can change it, but it's a good idea to have a random password.
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19:42 Shane-S gotcha thanks
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20:32 Shane-S so I am trying to login with kohauser from .xml file with a long hard to use random password with no luck, I got the MYSQL one working fine, now I am at the web installer
20:33 wizzyrea the username is the same as the mysql
20:33 wizzyrea so is the password
20:33 jcamins Shane-S: the other user is for Zebra.
20:33 Shane-S oh
20:33 jcamins You use the MySQL password to go through the web installer, then create yourself a new user which you use from then on.
20:33 wizzyrea (after you create a library)
20:34 wizzyrea (and some patron types)
20:34 wizzyrea patron categories, I mean
20:34 wizzyrea (or just install the sample data
20:34 jcamins Right.
20:34 wizzyrea )
20:35 Shane-S hmm says it is missing a perl dependency "Template::Plugin::HtmlToText" any quick fox for that?
20:35 Shane-S err Module
20:35 jcamins sudo apt-get install libtemplate-plugin-htmltotext-perl :D
20:35 cait sudo apt-get install libtemplate-plugin-htmltotext-perl
20:36 wizzyrea <3 cait
20:36 cait meh, jcamins typed faster or cheated :)
20:36 jcamins cait: I type very quickly.
20:36 cait I do too - but not against you :)
20:36 cait hi wizzyrea :)
20:36 wizzyrea it's true he's wicked fast
20:36 cait what did I do?
20:36 libsysguy Shane-S there is a clever scheme for libraries in debian
20:36 libsysguy lib(package-name)-perl
20:36 jcamins libsysguy: he's using the packages.
20:36 jcamins Oh, naming scheme.
20:36 libsysguy yeah
20:36 Shane-S ty thank worked now onto the install
20:36 * jcamins thought that using packages generally was a clever scheme. ;)
20:37 * libsysguy made the mistake of using cpan his first time
20:37 libsysguy never again
20:37 libsysguy yeah using packages will generally do it
20:37 * Shane-S also used cpan the first time and cried and beat his head on the table...and screamed out "Why would anyone make this so complex?"
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20:39 Shane-S okay I don't remember this part...Unimarc or Marc21 (I will be migrating data from Follett Circ/Cat)
20:40 wizzyrea marc21
20:40 Shane-S ty
20:40 wizzyrea you're not in france right?
20:40 libsysguy you can always change it later right?
20:41 jcamins Somewhere near where my parents live, based on the domain name.
20:41 jcamins libsysguy: nope.
20:41 jcamins Well, you could change the syspref, but you'd have to reinstall the instance.
20:41 jcamins (to change the Zebra indexing)
20:41 libsysguy oh ouch
20:41 libsysguy better get it right Shane-S
20:42 jcamins Shane-S: it's definitely MARC21. That's not something you need to be concerned about being wrong about in NJ. ;)
20:42 Shane-S okay...lots of optional stuff I can do
20:43 jcamins Yup. Those are low stakes. Choose what you'd like.
20:43 wizzyrea (sample libraries and patron categories are nice)
20:43 wizzyrea sample holidays are nice
20:43 Shane-S sample holidays does that save time?
20:43 wizzyrea yes
20:44 libsysguy only if you're into christmas :p
20:44 jcamins Z39.50 servers is always a good idea.
20:44 wizzyrea sample frameworks
20:44 wizzyrea are nice
20:44 libsysguy frameworks are a yes
20:44 jcamins Oh, I never install sample frameworks.
20:44 Shane-S Sample Patron Card Data, does that include adding the reports or are they in there already?
20:44 jcamins Too many missing tags.
20:44 * libsysguy is not as picky as jcamins
20:44 libsysguy :p
20:44 * wizzyrea either
20:44 wizzyrea adding the reports?
20:45 * wizzyrea is not sure what you mean
20:45 Shane-S I remember building reports with the admin interface, and I never could find a "patron card" to print our this barcode, was curious if that adds it (or maybe I just missed it before)
20:46 jcamins Shane-S: barcodes aren't printed from the reports module.
20:46 jcamins They're printed from the barcode printing tool.
20:46 wizzyrea no, they're printed from the patron card creator
20:46 Shane-S do I need sample patron for that, or is it in their already
20:46 wizzyrea barcodes for books are printed from the label creator
20:46 wizzyrea nope, you don't need sample patrons
20:46 wizzyrea those are actual "borrower accounts"
20:47 Shane-S Sample Label and Patron Card Data (sample_creator_data) is what i am stuck on
20:47 wizzyrea yes, you want those
20:47 wizzyrea gives you some templates to work from if you are going to be printing labels or patron cards from koha
20:48 rangi bug 5644 easy signoff to help make jenkins happy again
20:48 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5644 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , dropbox mode doesn't set the correct date
20:49 jcamins I would, except I'm at a client's.
20:49 rangi also bug 8407 and bug 8385
20:49 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8407 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , xt/tt_valid.t is too strict
20:49 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8385 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , searchengine/solr/ fails 'prove ./xt/tt_valid.t' test
20:49 rangi fix another jenkins complain
20:50 jcamins ^^ those need to be signed off by someone who uses a non-English interface.
20:51 rangi yup, i put a sign off on
20:51 rangi but not marked it needs signoff
20:51 rangi i tested with english-NZ
20:51 jcamins Maybe we could get dpavlin to test it.
20:52 Shane-S okay WOW 3.8's staff screen 10x better then 3.6 at least the first page much easier
20:52 wizzyrea hehe
20:53 jcamins lol
20:53 jcamins Glad you like it. :)
20:53 rangi after those are pushed, just the perlcritic error to fix
20:53 cait rangi++
20:53 cait thx for saving jenkins once again
20:54 rangi well it wont be saved until the fixes are pushed :)
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20:58 Shane-S anyone know what item types Follet likes to use for books? I will have to bring home the Koha test laptop to check otherwise
20:58 wizzyrea they are arbitrary, I think
20:58 wizzyrea that is to say, different at every library
20:58 Shane-S what is suggested then for Item Type for normal fiction books?
20:59 * wizzyrea would use "book"
20:59 rangi id use train
20:59 cait Shane-S: your itemtypes dictate your circ rules
20:59 * wizzyrea gives rangi "the look"
20:59 rangi (the point being it doesnt actually matter)
20:59 cait think about what you need for circ rules
20:59 rangi its just arbitrary characters
20:59 rangi you can call it whatever you want
20:59 wizzyrea but your circ rules are based on them
20:59 wizzyrea like cait said
20:59 rangi so pick something that makes sense to you
21:00 cait you could have "4-weeks"
21:00 cait or "short loan" "normal loan"
21:00 cait or if you really circ like that "book" "audio-visual"
21:00 Shane-S when I asked my media specialist about rules she looked at me like I had two heads...her response was, kids just check books out and bring them back in a week
21:00 Shane-S we have no fines
21:00 cait the trick is that it doesn't have to be a media type
21:00 wizzyrea right, it doesn't have to be
21:01 cait you could have just one type for all then, if you wanted
21:01 wizzyrea if you didn't want to, say, circulate DVD's for less time than books
21:01 SJeffery Though there are advantages of separating out the media types for searching purposes...
21:01 Shane-S I am think Book, DVD/CD, VHS, Audio CD, Audio Casset
21:01 wizzyrea yep, those make sense
21:01 cait you can also search by location and collection
21:02 Shane-S and this doesn;t affect like fiction, non-fict, ref, etc right?
21:02 wizzyrea no, those are usually collection codes
21:02 Shane-S okay easy enough then
21:02 wizzyrea or locations. It's all very flexible
21:02 wizzyrea do it in a way that makes sense to your librarians.
21:02 Shane-S we only have like 5 types of media
21:03 wizzyrea do you know the policies of your library?
21:03 wizzyrea I'd start there :P
21:03 Shane-S <-- has 1 librarian who he asked to look at Koha and she never logged in beyond me doing it with her twice.
21:03 wizzyrea does your library have a website?
21:04 drojf librarians. have crazy stuff like MARC with a field for everything and then let people choose item types like crazy
21:04 * wizzyrea wants to know what the circ policies look like :P
21:04 Shane-S wizzyrea: no, it will with Koha, but right now everything hosted in the building is down
21:04 wizzyrea O.o
21:05 wizzyrea bummer
21:05 Shane-S I walked in Monday to a general contractor going , your the IT guy right?
21:05 wizzyrea ohh… boy...
21:05 Shane-S and I looked at him going yeah, is there a computer or wire in your way?
21:06 jcamins At least he didn't start off with "what was in that little room with all the air conditioning?" ;)
21:06 Shane-S He goes, well not quite, this room here with these 7 foots racks...yeah we are supposed to rip the asbestos tile out
21:06 libsysguy yayy for mesothelioma
21:07 Shane-S so I had to rip out 3 servers, 4 switches, 2 UPSs, and our routers/modems.
21:09 wizzyrea[…]-about-to-go-down
21:10 jcamins Hehe.
21:10 Shane-S Needless to say I was not happy...and no one even looked at the room, the blueprints still had "closet", so they assumed it was a storage closet not a "server" closet
21:10 wizzyrea actually this one:[…]about-to-go-down8
21:11 jcamins Is that different?
21:11 wizzyrea well you can actually see the word "down
21:11 Shane-S Best part is when the Business Admin who approved the ripping out of it, called me asked me to print out a purchase order. I just laughed at her.
21:12 Shane-S I tolder her, I have no network connectivity, no print servers, and no internet access to go download drivers to I can use USB
21:12 cait did she made the mistake to ask why?
21:13 Shane-S No I think my tone said it all
21:14 Shane-S because I just got in my Dell PE 710 server with 64Gb ram to Virtualize...and I couldn't do anything but stare at it
21:15 Shane-S Then my new UPS came in, and I stared at them...then my new firewall...stated at that too
21:15 Shane-S waiting for my PoE switch so I can just look at that too
21:15 drojf uh-oh. getting between the it guy and his new toys
21:15 jcamins Shane-S: sounds like you've had a busy two weeks (is that right?) staring at cool things you can't use.
21:16 Shane-S yep, best part was we paid to have an exhaust fan put in...because I want my servers running under 90degrees F, and I only have a vent in the door to pull air in. So the entire room was already ripped out
21:17 drojf sounds like excellent planning. what kind of place do you work at?
21:18 Shane-S Elementary School so it isn't mission critical, just wasted 2 weeks of IT "pay"
21:18 drojf ah, public money. excellent ;)
21:19 Shane-S I was literally an over pair custodian last week, I walked around helping the guys move furniture out of the classrooms
21:19 jcamins drojf: well, not so much in NJ...
21:20 drojf how are schools paid for in NJ?
21:20 Shane-S jcamins: on now we are public, taxes and state funding pay for us.
21:20 Shane-S no*
21:20 jcamins Shane-S: that's a joke... many members of my family teach in the NJ school system.
21:20 Shane-S there are some private and charter school which get state aid, but are privately funded, I am in the public sector
21:21 jcamins I understand the governor has been cutting school budgets rather dramatically.
21:22 Shane-S yeah and from the IT side, the data they are now collecting because of NCLB and the Federal aid 30 states too for education, we can see a trend to merit based pay...which "I" an not oppsed to
21:22 Shane-S I am non-union, yearly contracted, so I live by the fact I need to do my job, and well, or I can be fired life
21:22 jcamins It is non-unionized?
21:22 jcamins (in public schools)
21:23 Shane-S Teacher and Admins are Union
21:23 jcamins I meant "IT" not "It."
21:23 jcamins However, that seems... not quite right.
21:23 Shane-S support staff is not union represented unless their local school union offers to blanket them
21:25 Shane-S Support staff are : secretaries, custodians, maintenance, lunch workers, aides, and in most of school in this area of NJ IT staff.
21:26 Shane-S Some of the IT personnel were teacher or school administrators, and the districts made the postion and administrative position
21:26 Shane-S well at any rate thank you all
21:27 Shane-S it is working, now I get to set it up and then try and export it to a VM that ESXi will like
21:34 * jcamins looks at the time, decides to call it a day.
21:34 jcamins Good night, #koha.
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23:03 * jcamins_away instructs his release script to warn him if the release version and Koha version do not match.
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23:23 drojf did something change about search in koha or did i break something? i had a link​&op=or&idx=Record-control-number&q=12345 and that returned all records with a certain control number either in 001 or 777$w. now i get 0 results
23:23 jcamins 777$w?
23:24 jcamins Huh.
23:24 jcamins Indeed.
23:24 jcamins Should still work.
23:26 drojf weird. zebra related files look ok. reindexed, no change
23:28 jcamins Very odd.
23:28 jcamins Is Zebra running?
23:29 drojf yes. i get results for everything else, but the indexes für control-number and record-control-number seem to be gone
23:29 jcamins That's very peculiar.
23:29 drojf indeed
23:30 drojf hm no there is more now.
23:30 drojf or, less
23:30 jcamins There is more what?
23:30 jcamins Less what?
23:30 wahanui it has been said that Less is more
23:30 drojf other indexes not working
23:31 jcamins Ah.
23:31 drojf something is really broken i guess
23:31 jcamins Yes, I think so.
23:32 drojf ok, nothing i deal with at 1:30am then :/ good night
23:33 jcamins Good night.
23:39 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #95: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/95/
23:39 jenkins_koha dpavlin: Bug 8315 - remove use C4::* version
23:39 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8315 major, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , fix 'C4::Output 3.02' errors in Koha

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