Time Nick Message 00:01 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @paulcnielsen: "ok, fired up now #kohails people. Think it is time to lay a Be different Do different challenge for ALIA Information Online" 00:02 mtj yes paul, do it!, do it! 00:02 rangi i like it 00:44 rangi ohh cool 00:45 rangi i didnt realise anthony mao had so many libraries 00:47 jcamins Is there any way to cherry-pick more than one commit at a time? 00:47 rangi i know someone has asked this before 00:47 jcamins I *don't* want to merge in the other branch, because there are some patches I don't want. 00:47 rangi i cant remember the answer 00:47 jcamins Probably me. 00:48 jcamins http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1670970/how-to-cherry-pick-multiple-commits 00:49 rangi ah yep, new git :) 00:49 jcamins I have git 1.7.2.5, and it definitely does not cherry-pick more than one commit. 00:49 jcamins I know because I've been trying that over and over and over. 00:50 jcamins Maybe they meant the one that comes first has to be *newer*. 00:50 rangi yeah try that 00:50 rangi also the format-patch idea has merit 00:50 rangi git format-patch --full-index --binary --stdout range 00:51 jcamins I tried the xargs one. 00:51 jcamins Bad idea. 00:51 rangi yeah too dangerous 00:51 rangi the patch will at least give you a chance to fix the conflicts 00:52 jcamins Well, it shouldn't be too dangerous... 3.6.x and 3.6-testing have so far diverged... not at all. 00:53 rangi :) 01:07 jcamins Ha! 01:07 jcamins Figured it out eventually. 01:08 jcamins The format-patch was a step in the right direction. 01:41 jcamins bug 7726 01:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7726 trivial, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , AllowItemsOnHoldCheckout has columns in wrong order in sysprefs.sql 01:42 jcamins bug 6931 01:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6931 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , hardcoded insert incompatible with UNIMARC 01:43 rangi hmm? 01:45 jcamins cherry-picking. 01:45 rangi ahh 01:50 jcamins Well, there was no 3.6.x patch for bug 8062. 01:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8062 critical, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Stable , Cart email broken for non english templates 01:51 jcamins I just tried my hand at resolving it, but I don't think that'll be going into 3.6.7. 01:52 rangi did you update it askign for a 3.6.x patch? i do that with 3.8.x ones 01:52 rangi if they dont apply clean 01:52 jcamins I did, yes. 01:52 rangi sweet 01:53 jcamins I'd just like to have had a 3.6.x patch for 3.6.7. 01:55 rangi *nod* 01:59 ago43 Hi, after importing some authorities via bulkauthimport.pl, I ran link_bibs_to authorities.pl and got tons of the following errors: Auth error: Unsupported Use attribute (114) Match-heading Bib-1 01:59 ago43 I only imported 100 authorities, but I've gotten many hundreds of these errors. 02:00 ago43 should I abort the process, and re-index with the back-ups I made before starting the authorities import? 02:00 jcamins ago43: you need to update the zebra config. 02:00 jcamins No point. 02:00 jcamins The config is still wrong. 02:01 rangi yeah, 114 points to bad config usually 02:01 ago43 cool. thanks! 02:04 jcamins Bug 7941 caused all sorts of problems, didn't it? 02:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7941 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Stable , Fix version numbers in modules and set up a system to keep them up to date 02:04 * jcamins gives it a miss. 02:05 rangi not really, the hardcoded numbers in the other files caused the mess, once thats pushed it will be fine 02:06 jcamins Right, but when choosing things to go to 3.6.x, that seems non-essential, and is known to break things. 02:07 rangi yep, id leave it for 3.6 02:08 rangi the nice thing it did, was throw up that we had hardcoded madness 02:08 rangi so id pull those ones in, even if not the 7941 02:09 rangi but maybe not this close to eol .. the timebomb is unlikely to explode in the next few months :) 02:10 jcamins What is with the "released releases" thing in docs/history.txt? 02:10 rangi its a tab separated file 02:10 rangi that i keep fixing the tabs on 02:11 rangi releases is the type 02:11 jcamins Ohh. 02:11 jcamins Got it. 02:11 rangi the idea is you can slurp the file in, find all the release notices for a nice timeline 02:11 jcamins That's excellent. 02:11 jcamins I just wrote a crazy regular expression to get me that information. 02:11 rangi yeah to stop that :0 02:12 rangi some might have the releases bit missing, but we can fix that easily enough ;) 02:13 * jcamins keeps on meaning to send in a patch to fix that, since it looks like it just says "released releases" 02:13 rangi i think i used to tag the developer ones too 02:13 jcamins Guess there's a good reason not to. 02:13 rangi and meetings 02:14 rangi oh 02:14 rangi a new thing for the dashboard 02:14 jcamins Yes! 02:15 rangi days until string freeze 02:15 jcamins That too. 02:15 jcamins I thought you meant "newest developers." 02:15 rangi ohhh that too :) 02:16 rangi lemme get a coffee and ill get right on that 02:28 rangi when are you planning 3.6.7 ? 02:29 rangi string freeze on the 15th? 02:29 jcamins Yup. 02:29 rangi cool 02:29 rangi release on 22? 02:29 jcamins Yup. 02:31 jcamins ~/release-tools/release-tool.pl -v --push=kc-rmaint:3.6.x && git checkout 3.6-testing && ~/release-tools/release-tool.pl -v --push=kc-rmaint:3.6.x-rmaint/testing 02:31 jcamins :D 02:31 mib_1xu6wg anyone have a link to the difference between 3.6.6 and 3.8.2? or can say which would be better to "start" with for a new system for a library? 02:32 jcamins mib_1xu6wg: 3.6.6 is rather more mature and stable. 3.8.2 has a lot of cool new features. 02:32 jcamins If you won't be going live for a while, I'd go with 3.8.2. 02:32 jcamins 3.8.3 will be about in two weeks or so, and it will be even more stable. 02:33 mib_1xu6wg is the transisition to the next version hard? say we use 3.6.6 but I try 3.8.X and it has stuff we want, nice upgrade script, or it is a rip and replace type install? 02:33 jcamins (currently the big problems with 3.8.x are all to do with fines) 02:33 jcamins Very easy. 02:34 jcamins You just change "oldstable" in your /etc/apt/sources.list to "stable" and run: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade koha-common 02:34 mib_1xu6wg Window is to have it running in production by end of August to replace Follet Circ/Cat 02:34 jcamins :D 02:34 rangi you do fines? 02:34 jcamins Hmmm... you probably don't use fines too much, do you? 02:34 rangi hehe snap :) 02:35 mib_1xu6wg no fines, its a school they hold report cards hostage :P 02:35 jcamins rangi: BTW, tell me that command line wasn't profoundly awesome. 02:35 jcamins mib_1xu6wg: 3.8.2 would be a good choice, then. 02:35 jcamins Ooh, I like the "New features recently pushed." 02:36 rangi :) 02:36 rangi yeah its good eh 02:36 jcamins Ooh, 8301 was pushed? 02:36 jcamins Awesome! 02:36 mib_1xu6wg okay I played with 3.6.4 I believe a while back you all helped me get a working system, I submitted a few failed patches, and even tried to learn git... 02:37 jcamins Awesome! You'll get the hang of git in no time. :) 02:37 mib_1xu6wg I just my new server in and I am using Vmware ESXi on it, so I am hoping I can building a system in VirtualBox and transfer it in 02:37 jcamins You need to use a certain type of disk image. 02:38 mib_1xu6wg I downloaded VMware converter tool. Hopefully construction is done soon and I can do this all @ work, but for now I was looking at "options" if I still can;t get in my server room 02:38 jcamins Oh my. 02:39 jcamins Actually, I seem to remember talking to you. :) 02:39 mib_1xu6wg there are doing asbestos abatement, entire building is down 02:39 rangi id definitely use the pacakges 02:39 jcamins No question. 02:39 jcamins Packages all the way. 02:39 mib_1xu6wg oh yeah I plan on packages for the production system 02:40 * jcamins smiles beneficently at his computer, now testing two releases, and goes to sleep. 02:40 rangi sleep well 02:40 Shane-S I had linked to a few documents that were not clear on the package installtions and I think wizzyrea mentioned removing outdated docs 02:40 Shane-S night 02:41 Shane-S hopefully the package install is simple 02:47 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @ranginui: "#kohails dashboard now showing more information including the 5 newest features added http://t.co/NPeDHjf7" 03:40 Amit_Gupta heya bag 03:48 cait good morning #koha 03:49 rangi hi cait 03:49 cait h rangi :) 03:50 rangi cait: i added important dates to the dashboard 03:50 cait nice! 03:50 cait rangi++ 03:50 cait long listof sign-offers now 03:51 cait that's nice too, it's growing 03:52 rangi next feature is 3 newest developers 03:52 rangi that was jcamins_away idea 03:52 cait :) 03:52 rangi according to my stats 03:53 rangi from 13/6/2012 to 10/7/2012 03:53 rangi i received 4053 emails to my bigballofwax address 03:53 rangi and sent 242 03:57 cait wow 04:04 dcook Just a few e-mails, eh? 04:06 rangi just a few :) 04:06 dcook I just added another :p 04:07 dcook I've actually been finding several bugs dealing with holds all day, but now that I think about it...I've been looking at 3.8.0, so they might already be fixed 04:07 * dcook feels that his day may become invalidated shortly 04:08 rangi heh 04:09 dcook Actually, I wouldn't mind that so much 04:09 dcook It would save me the headache of trying to puzzle them all out 04:13 dcook Damn...if only I were so lucky :p 04:14 rangi theres a big rewrite in the works 04:15 rangi its being tested at the moment 04:15 dcook For holds? 04:15 rangi yep 04:15 * dcook drools 04:15 dcook What's the bug #? 04:15 wahanui hmmm... the bug # is there 04:16 rangi papa is who you wnat to talk to about it 04:16 rangi 5609 but not a lot to see there 04:18 dcook Hmm 04:18 dcook You're right about there not being much 04:18 dcook Most of this looks like enhancements though 04:19 rangi bug 5786 04:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5786 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, srdjan, Patch doesn't apply , Move AllowOnShelfHolds system preference to the Circulation Matrix 04:19 dcook I'm looking at another one of those issues where it used to work and now it doesn't 04:19 rangi bug 5787 04:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5787 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Patch doesn't apply , Move OPACItemHolds system preference to the Circulation Matrix. 04:19 rangi bug 5788 04:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5788 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , Move ReservesMaxPickupDelay system preference to the Circulation Matrix. 04:19 dcook Yeah, I looked at those 04:19 rangi http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/wr76711_bug_5786_5787_5788 04:19 rangi thats a merge of them 04:20 cait good to hear it's being tested :) 04:21 cait I started on one of them but got totally lost :( 04:22 dcook Hmm 04:22 dcook I can understand. I'm not sure I follow a lot of this 04:22 dcook Personally, I'm just trying to restore functionality that was already there :S 04:23 rangi thats always a great goal 04:23 rangi what is it? 04:23 rangi the best is to write a test so that if someone breaks it again, the tests scream at them 04:23 rangi :) 04:24 dcook I am intrigued... 04:24 dcook waitingreserves.pl 04:24 dcook If there is an item with multiple holds on it, and you cancel a hold, the screen (except the header) is cleared 04:24 dcook Instead of prompting you to confirm the hold for the next person in the queue 04:25 dcook Looking at our 3.2 install, it used to have a very nice prompt appear in such a situation 04:25 rangi right, im not sure koha did 04:25 rangi at least i dont remember it 04:25 rangi maybe it was a patch never submitted? 04:25 dcook Maybe 04:25 dcook But the clearing of the screen is still unusual 04:26 rangi yep it is 04:26 dcook It doesn't even return to the "No Holds" screen 04:26 * dcook looks into the prompt 04:29 dcook Cancelling holds in transit also adds another layer of evil... 04:31 dcook I wonder sometimes, rangi, if you have all the koha code in your head :p 04:31 cait he does 04:31 cait but I am not sure it's properly version controlled 04:32 dcook :p 04:32 dcook Yep...looks like we made a lot of changes to the way that holds are handled 04:32 * dcook tears out his own eyes for a bit 04:33 rangi hehe 04:34 * cait sends cookies 04:34 dcook Mmm, cookies 04:34 dcook For the most part, I think that they're good changes. I just wish that they were tracked better. I suppose that's the whole point of moving to using git for all of our changes 04:34 * druthb perx. Cookies? 04:35 rangi yeah, tracking and getting them into koha makes everyones life easier 04:36 dcook Agreed 04:36 cait druthb: brush you rteeth and go to bed! 04:37 cait yep it does :) 04:37 cait makes it possible to use the packages for us soon 04:37 dcook ? 04:37 cait because not having local customizatoins is nice :) 04:37 dcook Sooo true 04:38 druthb Already brushed my fangs and am in bed, cait. :) just being lazy. 04:38 cait sleep! :) 04:38 druthb :P 04:40 dcook Not sure how to deal with the transit issues... 04:40 dcook We can't stop people from cancelling holds while items are in transit 04:40 rangi nope 04:40 dcook But cancelling holds on items in transit creates some nasty problems 04:40 rangi hmm? 04:41 dcook If an item on hold is in transit to another library and the transfer is cancelled at the home library but the hold remains, the item cannot be checked in at the transfer library...but checking in at the home library does nothing 04:41 dcook If you cancel a hold or change the pickup location while it's in transit, you have to check it in at the home branch and either (Cancel the transfer to the original transfer) or just confirm the real hold/transfer at the bottom) 04:42 dcook In this second case, two prompts appear. One telling you to transfer it to the original transfer location. The second telling you to confirm the hold and second it to the new transfer location. 04:42 rangi right 04:42 dcook I imagine that there are other scenarios as well, but those are the two that I've noticed so far 04:42 rangi what happens in the first scenario when you try to check it in? 04:43 dcook In the second case, clicking on the first "transfer to original transfer location" either throws a software error or clears all transfer destinations 04:43 rangi (at the transfer library) 04:43 dcook It said "Cannot check in. Must checkin at home branch" 04:43 rangi hmm that must be related to a syspref too 04:43 dcook I sure hope so 04:43 dcook Actually, I had that inkling as well 04:43 dcook But even if it is... 04:44 rangi it will be 04:44 rangi but returning it home doesnt wipe the transfer off? 04:44 dcook Independant Branches maybe? 04:44 dcook Right 04:44 dcook And here's the real problem, I suppose 04:44 rangi no, it will be to do with homebranch something something 04:44 dcook When returning it home the first time, we tried to cancel the transfer 04:45 dcook But it didn't really work 04:45 rangi cos you can have floating collections and stuff, that never have to return home 04:45 dcook But home branch "thinks" it did 04:45 rangi right 04:45 rangi so i think its all down to cancelling transfers then 04:46 dcook As in? 04:46 rangi well its not cancelling them 04:46 dcook Mmm 04:46 rangi when you returned it to home 04:46 rangi and choose to cancel it didnt work 04:47 dcook Or maybe it somewhat worked 04:47 dcook If it was cancelled, that would explain why the transfer branch wouldn't accept it 04:47 dcook But maybe the item is just not being modded? 04:47 rangi hmm? 04:48 rangi the item doesnt need to be 04:48 dcook You can tell I never do anything with holds, lol 04:48 rangi the transfers are totally independent of holds 04:48 dcook Yeah, I just realized that 04:48 rangi ie not linked in anyway 04:48 dcook So why would the transfer branch refuse it, but the item status still say it 04:48 rangi they can just start a transfer 04:48 rangi do you have db access? 04:49 dcook Decent access 04:49 dcook Limited write, but I can select just fine 04:50 dcook branchtransfers? 04:50 rangi try SELECT * from branchtransfers where itemnumber=whatever 04:50 rangi hopefully can find out if the transfer was actually cancelled 04:53 dcook I see a few "wrongtransfer" records 04:53 dcook from and to the same branch 04:53 rangi right 04:54 rangi but not one for that item to the branch you cancelled it for? 04:56 dcook I'm trying to replicate the issue, but I seem to be doing it a bit differently 04:56 dcook So I've got my item going from demo to electronic 04:56 dcook for pickup at electronic 04:56 dcook I'll cancel that hold 04:57 dcook Now the item says going from demo to electronic for pickup at demo 04:57 dcook Because it hasn't physically left demo yet, I'm going to check in at demo 04:58 dcook As before, I see two prompts. "Please return to Electronic (Print slip or cancel transfer) for hold ... Confirm" 04:59 dcook and "Hold Found. Hold for...Hold at demo. Confirm hold or Ignore" 04:59 dcook Now, I believe clicking "Confirm hold" will make everything great 04:59 dcook But the top box is the most obvious and I know that I don't want to send it to Electronic, so I hit "Cancel transfer" 04:59 rangi right 05:00 dcook Hmm, this is actually looking OK 05:01 dcook Which means I must've done something different last time.. 05:01 dcook Mmm 05:01 dcook Last time, I think I added another layer perhaps 05:02 dcook So that it was going from demo to electronic to demo2 05:02 * dcook gives up for now 05:02 dcook I'm going to go grab my lunch :P 05:03 cait good idea :) 05:04 dcook But...so obstinate...can't give up... 05:05 dcook Mmm, I think I might see it.. 05:05 cait using your crystal ball? :) 05:06 cait @eightball should I do my it law homework now? 05:06 huginn cait: What are you asking me for? 05:06 Amit_Gupta heya cait 05:06 cait hi Amit_Gupta 05:06 cait @eightball 05:06 huginn cait: No clue. 05:06 cait hmm 05:06 cait thought that did work 05:06 cait wahanui? 05:06 wahanui cait? 05:08 rangi that was huginn 05:08 rangi that does it 05:08 rangi @help eightball 05:08 huginn rangi: (eightball [<question>]) -- Ask a question and the answer shall be provided. 05:08 rangi @eightball why dont you work? 05:08 huginn rangi: Naturally. 05:08 cait lol 05:09 cait @eightball it-law homework? 05:09 huginn cait: The outlook is poor. 05:09 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 05:09 cait yeah, that's true 05:09 rangi hehe 05:57 rangi hmm this doesnt seem right 05:58 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Tips_%26_Tricks/Customising_Notices_and_Slips 05:58 rangi someone has made a page in the category agian 05:59 cait glad it was not me 05:59 cait mediawiki is still weird to me 06:00 rangi i wonder if they are still editing ill fix it when they finish 06:00 cait it seens to - last change 5:42 06:00 cait hm I mean it seems like they are 06:00 cait and my edit this morning was 4:55 06:01 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @27point7: "a new friend... #yesIdidit #kohails http://t.co/LHwpPzJO" 06:02 cait hm maybe tweetbot should also give the link to the tweet? 06:04 rangi talk to mtj :) 06:04 cait i know :) but was waiting if you would tell me the idea was stupid 06:05 rangi hehe 06:06 rangi hmm i dont get that tweet 06:06 cait I think an insider maybe 06:06 rangi i need the french people to arrive to explain it to me :) 06:06 cait insider joke 06:09 mveron Good morning #koha 06:09 rangi hi mveron 06:09 cait hi mveron 06:09 cait back home? 06:09 mveron hi rangi qand cait 06:09 cait @later tell mtj maybe the tweetbot should tweet a link to the tweet too? 06:09 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 06:10 * mveron is still on Sifnos, one more week :-) 06:10 mveron ...but working a little bit... 06:10 cait getting bored already? :) 06:11 mveron No :-) But it is nice to work a littel bit in the cool morning time 06:20 alex_a bonjour 06:28 rangi bonjour alex_a 06:29 cait bonjour 06:29 wahanui hello, cait 06:32 rangi alex_a: do you know Mathieu Saby? 06:34 rangi ohh maybe a koala for kohala ? 06:34 reiveune hello 06:34 wahanui privet, reiveune 06:34 * rangi will not give up until he understands that photo 06:34 rangi hi reiveune 06:40 rangi http://www.lacloche.co.nz/ <-- where i am taking the family for lunch tomorrow 06:40 dcook_away Yum 06:43 cait yum 06:52 dcook Does anyone know if the data tables have been updated in Master since 3.8.0? 06:52 cait bbiab 06:52 dcook I'm getting "Previous" and "Next" showing up over the Previous and Next buttons in the Holds Pull list 06:53 rangi i think they have yes 06:53 dcook They seem to have lost "Previous" and "Next" as titles and have them as innerhtml instead 06:54 dcook Well, I don't know if innerhtml is the right term... 06:54 dcook But it shows as link text 06:56 rangi have you checked out the latest version of 3.8.x to test? 06:59 dcook Yeah, it's all right in the latest 3.8.x 06:59 dcook It's just funky in Master 06:59 francharb good morning #koha 06:59 rangi hi francharb 06:59 dcook morning/afternoon francharb 06:59 francharb 0/ rangi dcook 07:02 alex_a rangi: Mathieu Saby ? mmh no 07:02 alex_a Who is he ? 07:02 wahanui he is gone again 07:02 alex_a rangi: hello ! :) 07:02 rangi i dont know :) 07:02 rangi https://twitter.com/27point7/statuses/223657946205261825 07:02 mveron If I want to change the birthdate of a patron on current master, datepicker does not insert the new date. Known issue? Can anybody confirm? 07:03 mveron Changing the date manually (write directly into the field) works. 07:03 dcook I'll take a look at mine mveron 07:04 mveron Thanks, dcook 07:05 alex_a rangi: what a beautiful koala :) 07:05 rangi yep, im guessing koala for kohala ? 07:05 dcook mveron: this is the jquery datepicker? 07:05 dcook It seems to work fine for me on current master 07:06 mveron I think so, I just pulled from master 07:06 alex_a hello francharb ! 07:07 dcook Hmm. I think it's a problem on your end then, as it looks like it's working nicely 07:08 mveron dcook: I use firefox 14 beta, maybe it is an issue there. 07:08 dcook Actually.. 07:08 dcook I was just about to ask what browser you were using 07:08 dcook The datepicker has worked well across the board in my tests though 07:08 * dcook takes another look 07:10 mveron dcook: It misbehaves with the year. If I change the day it works 07:11 dcook Mmm, I see what you're saying now 07:11 dcook Same thing with the month 07:12 dcook Looks like you have to actually choose the new date if you want to change the month and/or year 07:13 dcook I doubt anyone has stumbled upon that one 07:13 mveron dcook: It is'nt by design, no? Misunderstanding "done"? 07:16 dcook Mmm, good point 07:17 clrh hello 07:17 clrh jcamins_away: I am here but not you ;) 07:20 gaetan_B hello :) 07:21 rangi hi paul_p clrh kf and gaetan_B 07:21 kf hello gaetan_B, hello again rangi and #koha 07:21 paul_p hi rangi & kf & everyone 07:23 dcook Might be an oversight in the design mveron 07:23 dcook In any case, my brain is about to explode and I have a week from hell coming up, so I better get moving! 07:23 dcook Au revoir, tout le monde 07:24 mveron au revoir, dcook 07:24 clrh jcamins_away: ++ 07:26 kf bonjour clrh :) 07:30 clrh hello kt 07:30 clrh kf 07:31 rangi new developers section added to the dashboard 07:32 kf yay! 07:32 rangi and clrh is list in it 07:32 kf rangi++ 07:32 clrh rangi: hum :) 07:32 kf clrh++ :) 07:33 clrh I just submitted a patch and not sure to submit a lot more... 07:48 rangi 1 patch is more than 6 billion people have done 07:49 kf clrh: and you do work on Koha - even if it's not visible in a lot of patches :) 07:50 * paul_p tries to find a french word for "wrangler" and can't ... 07:50 clrh :) 07:50 rangi oh paul_p 07:50 rangi you might understand this 07:50 clrh the litteral translation is the guys who take care of horses 07:51 paul_p google translate says = "cow-boy" ... 07:51 rangi same in english 07:51 clrh aaaah 07:51 kf I am a cow girl then? woohoo :) 07:51 rangi you wrangle horses 07:51 kf heh 07:51 rangi but you can kinda of use it nowadays for anything 07:52 rangi herder would be another good one 07:52 rangi bug herder :) 07:52 kf I already herd cats... why not bugs 07:52 rangi paul_p: https://twitter.com/27point7/statuses/223657946205261825 07:52 rangi why the koala and koha .. is it because of kohala ? 07:53 rangi someone must know, or ill be trying to figure it out all night :) 07:53 kf the kohala is a good idea 07:53 alex_a kf: i get the same problem than you on bug 5981 07:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5981 normal, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, ASSIGNED , OPAC: Add limits to search history 07:53 alex_a Browser freezes 07:53 alex_a :( 07:53 alex_a my_patch-- 07:54 kf alex_a: you can reproduce it? 07:54 alex_a + paging broken 07:54 kf well 07:54 alex_a my_patch-- 07:54 paul_p alex_a = there must be something with the configuration, because some/many don't have this problem of freeze... 07:54 alex_a kf: yes 07:54 kf I am glad you can reproduce it!! 07:54 rangi that was a confusing one 07:54 paul_p the question being = WTF difference ? 07:54 kf because now you can figure out how to stop it :) 07:54 kf and you will :) 07:54 alex_a kf: i just update ff to 13.0.1. And you ? 07:55 kf hm can't check, was testing on my laptop :( 07:55 kf but it has the latest version of whatever is in ubuntu 07:58 alex_a And i can confirm that when i comment the few lines of this patch, browser no longer freeze 07:59 rangi thats pretty awesome 07:59 rangi we can successfully break browsers with html 07:59 rangi :) 08:00 clrh kf rangi the french koha association is called kohala 08:01 clrh maybe paul_p knowws more why ;) 08:01 kf rangi: ?? :) 08:01 rangi yep, and does that sounds like koala when you pronounce it? 08:02 paul_p kohala = KOHA Libre Association 08:02 alex_a this js seems to block the query: "opac-tmpl/prog/en/lib/jquery/plugins/jquery.highlight-3.js" 08:02 paul_p in french "Association" refer to "Association loi 1901", that is the most common NPO (99.5% of NPO are "law 1901 association") 08:02 alex_a But what is the relationship ? 08:02 clrh https://twitter.com/Tredok/status/220896173710508033 https://twitter.com/Tredok/status/219668150113935361 08:03 kf paul_p: I think we know about kohala being the french user group - it's more we are still wondering about the secret behind the tweet :) 08:04 paul_p maybe they're thinking of a communication to enrole more libraries. Or change the kohala logo. I don't know 08:04 rangi alex_a: is there something that makes the page grow large and the highlight try to highlight too much? 08:05 rangi paul_p: i guess i was asking that when pronounced in french does kohala and koala sounds similar? 08:06 paul_p rangi = usually yes. But you must know that "koha" is pronounced in french like the word "quoi" which is "what". So we usually empasize the h = "kohhhha". So "kohala" is sometimes emphasized too 08:06 rangi ah ok :) 08:07 rangi mystery solved 08:07 rangi for the record i like the french pronounciation of koha a lot better than the US one 08:12 * paul_p head to bugzilla and should work on it for the rest of friday... 08:13 alex_a rangi: nope. I just search "a" 08:13 alex_a however, "a" are not highlighted 08:13 rangi weird 08:14 alex_a yep, and i did not have this behavior before 08:33 kf alex_a: neither did I when I signed off your patch 08:33 kf alex_a: something must have changed in between :( 08:45 rangi hmm parse fail, i can not make heads nor tails of that email 08:47 alex_a when i comment this line "$query_desc .= ", $limit_desc";" no longer have the freeze and pager works ! 08:47 alex_a So query_desc should be used somewhere 08:47 rangi hmmm 08:48 alex_a hmmm too 08:51 drojf good day #koha 08:54 rangi heya drojf 08:54 kf hi drojf 08:54 drojf hi rangi and kf :) 08:57 * drojf giggles about brooke's email 09:01 kf drojf: you speak brookish? :) 09:04 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 09:04 rangi hi mtompset 09:06 kf hi mt 09:06 kf hi mtompset :) 09:06 kf mtompset: http://dashboard.koha-community.org 09:16 mtompset Hi, kf. 09:16 mtompset Sorry for the delay. 09:16 kf np 09:17 mtompset Was chatting with my supervisor who has just switched timezones for the next while. 09:18 mtompset Sweet. Which reminds me... I need to look at some of my bugs, and see what happened to them. And figure out that one bug report that just doesn't seem to work when I do a simple rename. 09:18 mtompset Hi, rangi. Sorry for not scrolling back. 09:18 mtompset Hi, matts. 09:19 rangi no worries 09:20 * rangi goes to look at dpavlin's patch 09:25 alex_a kf: Bug 8381 is fixed (i hope). And it should fix the freezing problem too. And you're the one (with me) that can test 09:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8381 blocker, P1 - high, ---, alex.arnaud, ASSIGNED , Paging broken in OPAC search results 09:25 kf alex_a: I put it on my pile of things to test a minute ago - hope to get to it soon 09:25 kf but have to prepare for a presentation next week 09:26 alex_a kf: okay ! 09:39 rangi signed off 2 09:39 rangi the third one needs a lot more testing working on it now 09:42 kf which was the third one? 09:43 rangi there are 3 patches on 8418 09:45 kf bug 8418 09:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8418 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Koha::Calendar is_holiday ignores all user data 09:49 rangi it solves a bunch of problems 09:49 rangi if we get it in, and fix the last of the fines one, 3.8.3 should be pretty solid 09:49 kf it sure sounds like it 09:49 kf calendar is quite central to circ 09:52 slef hi all 09:52 rangi it only manifests in certain situations 09:52 rangi like all annoying bugs 09:53 slef anyone know a guide/study for consortium use of Koha? 09:53 slef rangi: predictable or a heisenbug? 09:54 kf slef: not rangi - predictable depending on configuration 09:54 kf I mean I am not rangi, but still answering .P 09:56 slef hehe 10:18 * rangi hopes someone else takes a look at bug 8418, its too late in the night for my brain 10:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8418 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Koha::Calendar is_holiday ignores all user data 10:25 Amit_Gupta bug 8415 10:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8415 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Link Serial with Acquisition 10:25 Amit_Gupta bug 7910 10:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7910 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Signed Off , Batch renewal of serials and order creation 10:26 eythian hi papa 10:28 mtompset heisenbugs?! sucky. 10:48 eythian I see that googling 'koha' doesn't find the main koha-community.org page again :/ 10:49 rangi does for me 10:49 rangi 2nd on the list 10:49 eythian not here 10:49 rangi in firefox 10:49 eythian yeah 10:49 rangi weird 10:49 rangi fine here 10:50 eythian I get www.koha.org, koha.net, translate.k-c, kohacon12 summary, wikipedia... 10:50 rangi what about koha ils 10:50 eythian it's second there 10:51 rangi so its not what happened the other time, when it wouldnt come up anywhere, just the way they do their ranking is mental 10:51 eythian yeah. I'll be getting a combination of language=nl, country=uk results. 10:51 rangi yeah 10:52 eythian ah, it's half way down page 2 10:52 rangi not enough dutch pages linking to it :) 10:53 rangi who knows, you could go insane trying to guess how it works 10:53 eythian ah well, went and '+1'ed it 10:53 eythian hmm, if I change the 'hl' to 'en', it appears third, after .org and wikipedia 10:53 eythian So it very much likely is that 11:01 rangi yep 11:17 kf_lunch hmmmm 11:17 kf_lunch umlauts in the cart email are broken 11:17 kf_lunch *sigh* 11:18 * kf_lunch decides to ignore that right now 11:42 oleonard Hi #koha 11:42 kf_lunch hi oleonard 11:58 jcamins Good news! It should be quite easy to integrate my dedup authorities stuff into BibLibre's script. 11:58 jcamins Not vice versa, though. 11:58 mtompset dedup authorities? 11:59 mtompset remove duplicates? 11:59 jcamins Right. 11:59 mtompset Oh, you were mentioning something about zebra-ish things on the list.. 12:11 jcamins paul_p_: the follow-up patches for bug 8353 wouldn't apply, so I recreated them. 12:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8353 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien.laurent, Passed QA , Add test to compare sysprefs in db to syspref.sql 12:12 jcamins Well, the second one wouldn't. 12:12 jcamins I also moved the script to t/db_dependent while I was at it. 12:20 paul_p_ thx jcamins 12:32 clrh jcamins: great for dedup! 12:35 marcelr paul_p: i am working on bug 7167 again; hoping for the best now.. 12:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7167 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , updatedatabase improvements 12:37 marcelr paul-p seems to be paul_p_ 12:38 paul_p_ BibLibre internet access is unstable today :\ 12:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #54 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 12:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #783 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 8 days 21 hr ago) 12:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8353 follow-up adding a tiny sh in misc/maintenance <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f08698a40670f71e2aa31274334ae7a2f8abe3ef> / Bug 8353 follow-up: Perltidy new test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=407583aa932a1cb3ae412a61f78c9df0f1b11666> / Bug 8353: Adds a test to check for missing sysprefs in the database <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.g 12:57 oleonard Why is the "OK" output of that script "# No tests run!" ? 13:00 oleonard bornie21: If you have a question about Koha ask it here 13:03 paul_p oleonard = it's the way Test::More work it seems 13:04 bornie21 thnx I installed koha 3.8 on Ubuntu 12.04 & was trying to customise OPAC Preferences bt I keep getting Error: data might not be saved. session timed out 13:05 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @NToddsPa: "Bicycle ride this morning in between conference calls re 2 new libraries that will be joining the VOKAL #kohails. The more the merrier!" 13:05 paul_p bornie21 = are you behing a (crazy) proxy by -not really a- chance ? 13:05 paul_p s/behing/behind/, of course 13:05 oleonard bornie21: have you changed Koha's timeout settings in system preferences? 13:05 paul_p if you reach another page, have you the same "timeout" thing ? 13:06 bornie21 Yeah its still timing me out and the timeout setting is set to 1d 13:08 bornie21 I think its failing to save preferences but I was able to that a couple if days ago when i changed the header html 13:10 eythian are you behind a crazy proxy? 13:10 bornie21 nope am nt using a proxy 13:14 bornie anybody knws wht could b wrong with my OPAC saving preferences 13:15 oleonard bornie: Does your session time out when you're doing other things, or only when working with preferences? 13:16 bornie actually when I am doing other things it doesn't bt when I try to save any preference it times out 13:17 abc HI 13:17 wahanui niihau, abc 13:17 bornie hey 13:25 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'jcamins/bug_8281_qa' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=60b6c187c46614431f109512c740a3bcf077f342> 13:34 mtompset Did anyone suggest that bornie look at the /var/log/koha/... error logs? 13:35 marcelr paul_p: joubu around? 13:39 paul_p marcelr yep 13:39 jcamins Why don't we use yaml for permissions? 13:39 marcelr hope you do not mind some amendments in 7167 13:40 marcelr and some typos: including a dangerous one: my $koha39 =~ "3.0900000"; 13:40 marcelr should be an assignment.. 13:40 kf jcamins: because noone has rewritten it so far :) 13:40 kf jcamins: I woud like it - we could get a po file out of yaml too maybe and get rid of the sql files 13:40 jcamins kf: ah. 13:41 paul_p kf I think the easiest way to do it would be to put permission descriptions in templates ! 13:42 kf paul_p: I think you are right 13:42 kf I looked into it once, but it generates the tree view in a way that I didn't want to break 13:42 kf or was scared to break trying to do that... 13:42 paul_p kf = was it with T::T or H::T::P ? 13:42 bornie @mtompset I did look at the error log but there is nothing suggesting an error in system preferences 13:42 huginn bornie: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 13:43 kf paul_p: the tree view uses lots of js 13:43 kf so it's with both 13:43 kf loopnig over stuff and such, I got confused 13:43 jcamins kf: that's why I was suggesting yaml, like with sysprefs. 13:43 kf keep the data structure the same, but feed it from elsewhere? 13:44 kf you would have to write something to parse a po file out of it too 13:44 kf so maybe not easier 13:44 jcamins kf: sysprefs aren't translatable? 13:44 kf they are 13:44 paul_p jcamins yes they are, in a separate file ! 13:44 kf yes 13:44 kf which is good btw 13:44 jcamins Ah. Separate file is a problem. Got it. 13:44 kf and the syspref translation script is also clever, because it keeps the strings in a good order for translations using comments 13:45 paul_p jcamins = it's not really a problem 13:45 kf nope 13:45 kf not a problem - you only have to think to teach a script to make a po out of it :) 13:45 paul_p just a fact = 3 pos to translate = staff, opac, sysprefs 13:45 bornie @ huggin wats a RDA 13:45 huginn bornie: I've exhausted my database of quotes 13:45 kf paul_p: I would like to see documentation separated out too 13:45 kf I have filed a bug for that 13:45 kf so you could do opac- staff - help - sysprefs 13:46 marcelr paul_p: 7167 13:46 kf the staff file is way too big and a good chunk of that is the help files I think 13:46 kf bug 7167 13:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7167 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , updatedatabase improvements 13:46 oleonard bornie: huginn is a bot who is complaining because you're putting an "@" in front of irc nicks 13:47 bornie thnx oleonard I am a newbie and its my first tym here 13:49 * wizzyrea waves 13:49 * wizzyrea yawns 13:50 mtompset Hello, wizzrea. 13:50 mtompset wizzyrea. 13:50 wahanui I LIKE SCIENCE 13:50 mtompset I thought it was I geek Libraries? 13:51 wizzyrea that too :) 13:51 kf I geek Koha? :) 13:51 wizzyrea wizzyrea? 13:51 wahanui I LIKE SCIENCE and I GEEK KOHA 13:51 wizzyrea there you go ;) 13:52 mtompset How did you change that? 13:52 * oleonard suspects with SCIENCE 13:52 mtompset As long as it isn't blinding. ;) 13:53 libsysguy libsysguy? 13:53 wahanui i heard libsysguy was Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck 13:53 * wizzyrea nods 13:53 * wizzyrea highfives libsysguy 13:53 eythian http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=QC-BLINDED&Category_Code=QC <-- mtompset 13:53 * wizzyrea giggles at mtompset 13:53 mtompset jcamins, Why is your libchi only 52? ;) 13:53 * libsysguy highfives wizzyrea back 13:54 wizzyrea he forgot to open his south facing window? 13:54 * wizzyrea makes an esoteric feng shui joke 13:54 mtompset Oh that is hilarious, eythian. 13:55 eythian wahanui: library science is <reply>http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=QC-BLINDED&Category_Code=QC 13:55 wahanui ...but library science is the kingdom of hacks :)... 13:55 * wizzyrea laughs at eythian 13:55 eythian no wahanui, library science is <reply>http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=QC-BLINDED&Category_Code=QC 13:55 wahanui okay, eythian. 13:55 mtompset library science? 13:55 wahanui http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=QC-BLINDED&Category_Code=QC 13:55 * mtompset laughs. 13:55 eythian I've been tempted to get it for wearing to conferences and client meetings. 13:55 bornie guys can I go ahead and unistall my koha then 13:56 mtompset did you check other error logs other than the koga one? 13:56 mtompset Like the apache ones? 13:57 mtompset koga should be koha. 13:57 eythian germs 13:57 eythian germs? 13:57 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. 13:57 bornie apache is complaining abt a named virtual hosts 13:58 wizzyrea oh and this one for jcamins: http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=QC-BAKING&Category_Code=QC 13:58 oleonard bornie: The fact that your problem is unfamiliar to us suggests it may be a configuration error outside of Koha's scope. That makes it difficult for us to diagnose. 13:59 bornie okay thanx for all your efforts 13:59 jcamins mtompset: Hehe. 14:00 jcamins Oh, guess those were from eythian and wizzyrea. 14:00 oleonard bornie: Since setting system preferences is an AJAX operation I wonder if there is a problem with your system which would result in the operation being attempted on a different domain or path? I'm just guessing though. 14:01 eythian bornie: what browser are you using? 14:01 bornie firefox 14:01 wahanui i heard firefox was so much better for maximep's use case of opening hundreds of tabs in tab groups. Chrome couldn't do that 14:01 wizzyrea no, wahanui, firefox is koha's preferred browser 14:01 eythian OK, that shouldn't be it then. 14:01 wahanui okay, wizzyrea. 14:01 bornie moremember.pl: Problem = a value of 1 has been passed to param without key at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Templates.pm line 187., referer: http://127.0.1.1:8080/cgi-bin/koha/members/memberentry.pl?op=modify&borrowernumber=55&step part of the error message i hv found 14:02 eythian that's not dealing with system preferences. 14:02 wizzyrea I missed what bornie is trying to do 14:02 wizzyrea the first question? 14:02 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" 14:02 jcamins Save sysprefs. 14:02 oleonard "thnx I installed koha 3.8 on Ubuntu 12.04 & was trying to customise OPAC Preferences bt I keep getting Error: data might not be saved. session timed out" 14:02 bornie okay am trying to customize OPAC and am getting timed out on saving 14:03 eythian bornie: have you flushed all related cookies and logged in again, in case something crazy is going on with your session? 14:03 wizzyrea ^^ this was going to be my suggestion too 14:03 wizzyrea clear cache, flush cookies 14:03 bornie yep cleared all browser hstry 14:04 oleonard And cookies? 14:04 wahanui Cookies are delicious delicacies 14:04 bornie yep and all form data too 14:04 bornie problem is it was working well a couple of days ago 14:04 wizzyrea oooo 14:05 eythian bornie: how are you connecting? Is your browser on the Koha server, on the same LAN, or further away? 14:05 wizzyrea what changed? 14:05 gaetan_B anyone using Item Circulation Alerts and can give me explanations ? (is it still really used ?) 14:05 bornie just recently added custom html for my header 14:05 wizzyrea AHA 14:05 wizzyrea so 14:05 * wizzyrea has actually, if you can believe it, seen this before 14:06 wizzyrea you have something malformed in your html 14:06 bornie etythian am actually on the server 14:06 wizzyrea you will have to delete what is in your preference from the db 14:06 eythian OK. 14:06 bornie how do I do that wizzy 14:07 eythian bornie: you're using the packages, right? 14:07 wizzyrea well, you can *try* deleting it all from the interface 14:07 oleonard Try it here: /cgi-bin/koha/admin/systempreferences.pl?tab=OPAC 14:07 wizzyrea go into the opac preferences, remove the stuff in the header 14:07 marcelr paul_p: amending another dangerous typo: _get_queries -> get_queries 14:07 wizzyrea and save it 14:07 wizzyrea it *ought* to work 14:07 bornie sorry am kinda new to koha wat packages 14:07 wizzyrea if you can't do that 14:07 wizzyrea we'll talk about nuking it from the database 14:07 eythian bornie: how did you install Koha? (but try what wizzyrea is saying first) 14:08 bornie I used the instructions on the koha wiki 14:08 wizzyrea bornie 14:08 wizzyrea try just deleting what is in your header 14:08 wizzyrea and save the system preferences 14:08 wizzyrea see if it works better 14:08 jcamins bornie: which instructions? 14:08 bornie ok thnx will see about tht 14:09 wizzyrea if we need to we'll do it the hard way 14:09 wizzyrea but do try the easy way first :) 14:09 bornie ok 14:10 bornie jcamins:Koha on ubuntu 14:10 eythian pity, I could send you one command to fix it if it were done with packages. 14:10 eythian (well, to unset the syspref) 14:12 wizzyrea I suspect just removing the html from the preference will allow it to save - but maybe not 14:15 wizzyrea …I hope that means we fixed 14:15 wizzyrea it 14:17 jcamins wizzyrea: or he hit refresh. 14:19 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.6.x build #54: SUCCESS in 1 hr 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/54/ 14:19 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7496 - Personally identifying information sent in opac user TITLE 14:19 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 8001: [SIGNED-OFF] improve styling potential of the tag list 14:19 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7604 - Link on basket group name for closed basket groups is broken 14:19 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7948 - Printing transfer slip loses barcode field focus 14:19 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 3521 - Items table in catalogue/detail.pl and cataloguing/additem.pl is sorted nonsensically 14:19 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 5795 [SIGNED-OFF] - Missing ReservesControlBranch system pref in database installer 14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7496 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Personally identifying information sent in opac user TITLE 14:19 jenkins_koha * amit.gupta: Bug 5795 Update the database as follow-up If sys pref 14:19 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8080 - login and password is pre-filled by the browser when creating a new patron 14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8001 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , Add some styling to the tags to allow them to be distinctive 14:19 jenkins_koha * simon.story: Bug 6684: Fixes to koha-remove 14:19 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Welcome to the 182th commiter ! 14:19 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 8144 - 775 tag in the MARC record causes display issue 14:19 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Fixing FSF address and copyright headers 14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7604 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Link on basket group name for closed basket groups is broken 14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7948 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , Printing transfer slip loses barcode field focus 14:19 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Fixing FSF address and copyright statements 14:19 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 Fixing FSF statements 14:19 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Adding missing license statement 14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3521 trivial, P3, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Stable , Items table in catalogue/detail.pl and cataloguing/additem.pl is sorted nonsensically 14:19 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Fixing FSF address and copyright headers for acqui/ 14:19 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Adding copyright headers and fixing FSF addresses 14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5795 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Missing ReservesControlBranch system pref in database installer 14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8080 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , login and password is pre-filled by the browser when creating a new patron 14:19 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8140 - [SIGNED-OFF] Error when exporting label xml 14:19 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7599 - [SIGNED-OFF] Cart JavaScript contains untranslatable English strings 14:19 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7847: OPAC search dies with Plack 14:19 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8111 - Language chooser display problem in self-checkout 14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6684 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , koha-remove should check the number of arguments it gets 14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8144 critical, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , 775 tag in the MARC record causes display issue 14:19 jenkins_koha * kolpen: Bug 8116 : Fixing warn in error log 14:19 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Welcome to Piotr Kowalski, that is 183th 14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4330 normal, P3, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Copyright statements out of date 14:19 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 8082: Fixing circulation.pref to match reality for IssuingInProcess 14:19 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 3638 Self Check Should Capture Hold Items 14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8140 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , Error when exporting label xml 14:19 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 3638 : Captured Holds may need to generate a transfer 14:19 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 8176 [SIGNED-OFF] Assign an intial value to $sqlwhere 14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7599 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Cart JavaScript contains untranslatable English strings 14:19 jenkins_koha * mjr: bug 7894 [SIGNED-OFF]: crude fix: convert results array into an arrayref 14:19 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 8201: Receive date not passed through correctly 14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7847 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , OPAC search dies with plack 14:19 jcamins Good grief. 14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8111 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Language chooser display problem in self-checkout 14:19 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7548: Missing arguments when receiving orders 14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8116 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , z3950 empty search causes silent warning in koha-error_log 14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8082 major, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Stable , The: IssuingInProcess configuration setting is working in reverse. 14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3638 normal, P2, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Status of hold not changed when item checked in via SIP2 Interface 14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8176 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , $sqlwhere is undefined in C4::Serials in GetSubscriptions 14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7894 blocker, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Broken detail page for first link on page 2 from search result page in OPAC 14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8201 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , can't change receive date 14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7548 normal, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, Pushed to Stable , Missing arguments in the pagination of receptions 14:20 jcamins Sorry about that. 14:20 * oleonard moans 'Oh, the scrolling!' 14:20 kf oh wow 14:20 marcelr :) 14:20 kf ah marcelr++ btw :) 14:20 marcelr ? 14:20 kf tackling all those big patches for qa :) 14:21 marcelr bug 7167 should really pass now but. .. 14:21 jcamins 3.6.7 should be pretty nice. :) 14:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7167 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , updatedatabase improvements 14:22 jcamins kf: there was no 3.6.x patch for e-mailing carts. 14:22 kf it's ok 14:23 kf we fixed it with separate templates 14:23 marcelr paul_p: still there? 14:23 wahanui there is, like, no spoon. or something like the second with holes like the first... or a patch from jared soemwhere removing some of the nozebra code 14:23 kf and we also fixed acq manually 14:23 kf so at the moment it's not hurting so much 14:23 jcamins I replaced the file with conflicts with the version from 3.8.x and applied the patch to 3.6-testing, but that will need to be tested prior to going into 3.6.8. 14:23 * jcamins heads into the city. 14:24 paul_p marcelr = yep, i'm still here 14:25 marcelr paul_p: i am amending the patch 14:25 marcelr but still finding errors 14:25 marcelr i will submit it soon but need your testing again 14:25 paul_p marcelr = you can count on me !!! 14:26 marcelr how long will you be there still? 14:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #783: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/783/ 14:40 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5644 : Fixing dropbox mode calculation 14:40 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8283 - Replace usage of YUI Cookie utility with jQuery Cookie plugin 14:40 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 8315 - remove use C4::* version 14:40 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7411: Follop-up: Add Text::Unaccent to PerlDependencies.pm 14:40 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6394: purchase order has French strings hard coded in 14:40 jenkins_koha * henridamien.laurent: Bug 8353: Adds a test to check for missing sysprefs in the database 14:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5644 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , dropbox mode doesn't set the correct date 14:40 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8353 follow-up: Perltidy new test 14:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8283 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace usage of YUI Cookie utility with jQuery Cookie plugin 14:40 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 8353 follow-up adding a tiny sh in misc/maintenance 14:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8315 major, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , fix 'C4::Output 3.02' errors in Koha 14:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7411 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , remove diacritics when automatically generating userid 14:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6394 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , purchase order has french hard coded in 14:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8353 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien.laurent, Pushed to Master , Add test to compare sysprefs in db to syspref.sql 14:41 jenkins_koha Starting build #784 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 8 days 23 hr ago) 14:41 paul_p_ and another internet connexion failure... 14:42 * oleonard regrets that the low-hanging fruit is gone in his YUI-removal project 14:42 kf oleonard: I love all the new updated elements 14:43 kf oleonard: what is missing? 14:43 wahanui i guess missing is usualy library only, an item that's not out 14:44 oleonard Menus and buttons mostly. I was also hoping to be able to replace the greybox library with jQueryUI Dialog, but that turned out to be more complex than I anticipated 14:45 oleonard Greybox does some things out of the box that I'm having trouble replicating with jqueryUI dialog 14:47 oleonard The drag and drop stuff in basketgroups will have to be updated too. 14:47 kf oleonard: hm I think buttons would be nice 14:47 kf but lots of work 14:48 kf maybe can be done in steps? 14:48 * kf could help 14:48 kf it would be awesome to get it all done for 3.10 14:50 oleonard Buttons and menus are tied together so closely that they really have to be done at the same time 14:50 kf ah ok 14:50 kf any news on the menu developmentß 14:51 kf ? 14:51 kf http://wiki.jqueryui.com/w/page/12137997/Menu 14:51 kf still in developement it seems :( 14:51 oleonard Yeah 15:13 nengard is there a way in git to remove all branches but the one you're on? 15:13 nengard I need to do a purge cause I have way too many branches that I don't need/use 15:13 nengard and don't want to delete them one by one 15:14 eythian I never delete branches 15:14 eythian but you can't delete the one you're on anyway 15:14 eythian so, I'd delete everything. 15:14 eythian (and it'll leave that one behind) 15:14 nengard and how do i do that? 15:14 eythian for br in `git branch` ; do git branch -D $br ; done 15:15 eythian something like that (untested obviously) 15:15 nengard heh 15:15 eythian I'm 5 branches short of 200, I can't delete them now anyway ;) 15:17 nengard is 200 a magic number? 15:17 eythian no, it's just round. 15:17 nengard oh :) 15:18 slef eythian: $(git branch) not `git branch` Shirley? 15:18 eythian slef: for throwaway commands, it makes no difference. 15:18 eythian (also: habit :) 15:18 nengard slef so --- for br in $(git branch) ; do git branch -D $br ; done 15:19 slef nengard: I don't see why not... it's not how I'd write it, but it's only dialectal differences ;-) 15:20 nengard eythian's way worked 15:20 nengard thank you both! 15:20 nengard i'm one of those people who likes things clean and i had a ton of junk in there 15:20 slef eythian: git branch | while read br ; do git branch -D "$br" ; done # because you just know someone will put a space in a branch name one day ;-) 15:21 eythian yeah, it's just slef typing with a funny accent :) 15:21 slef I always type "git branch -l" too... not sure why 15:22 slef eythian: git branch -l | xargs git branch -D 15:22 eythian if someone puts a space in a branch name, they deserve everything they get :) 15:22 eythian that would be a better solution, yeah 15:22 slef now with ADDED xargs! MORE angels on EVERY pin! 15:23 eythian heh 15:23 eythian git branch -D `git branch` if you want to avoid a pipe 15:23 slef string reparsing or a pipe... tough choice 15:24 eythian yeah 15:24 slef can we get a nonlinear pipe in there somehow? 15:24 eythian also, this isn't the early 80's any more. 15:24 slef bash thinks it is 15:25 eythian I dunno, command completion is pretty hefty 15:28 slef what's a doublon? 15:28 slef No definitions found for "doublon", perhaps you mean: gcide: Doubloon wn: doubloon moby-thes: doubloon 15:29 slef # recover the category type if the borrowers is a doublon 15:29 slef memberentry.pl:222 15:29 slef Doubloon \Doub*loon"\, n. [F. doublon, Sp. doblon. See {Double}, a., and cf. {Dupion}.] A Spanish gold coin, no longer issued, varying in value at different times from over fifteen dollars to about five. See {Doblon} in Sup. [1913 Webster] 15:29 slef errr, seems a bit unlikely 15:30 slef anyone here got a library that issues books to gold coins? 15:30 gaetan_B bye :) 15:30 slef that thing that could be a doublon is the second element returned by checkuniquemember 15:30 eythian slef: I expect jcamins_away would be the closest :) 15:31 slef numismatics :) 15:31 eythian gaetan_B: see you shortly :) 15:32 slef C4::Members calls it "C<&categorycode> is from categorycode table" 15:32 slef which is actually wrong because it takes it from borrowers table! 15:33 slef anyway, that doesn't matter right now 15:40 jcamins slef: the ANS only let's people read books about coins, not coins read books about people. ;) 15:43 eythian no jcamins, in Soviet Russia, coins read books about numismaticists. 15:43 * jcamins waves to larryb 15:44 larryb Hey jcamins 15:44 wahanui i heard jcamins was A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins 15:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #784: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/784/ 15:44 jenkins_koha oleonard: Bug 8281 - Remove unused YUI files 15:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8281 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove unused YUI files 15:45 jcamins Hmm. Looks like the 3.6-testing branch failed some tests. 15:45 jcamins (if it hadn't, it would've been pushed a half hour ago or so) 15:45 nengard been working on db documentation again bug 6716 could use some review/sign off 15:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6716 enhancement, P3, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , Database Documentation 15:45 nengard should be pretty easy 15:46 nengard doing more today 15:50 jcamins paul_p_: do you have a repo with your RM scripts? 15:51 reiveune1 bye 15:51 paul_p_ jcamins nope, but I planned to send them to the next RM ;-) 15:51 jcamins paul_p_: ah. 15:51 jcamins You should. :) 15:51 paul_p_ basically, I have 2 or 3 only. Plus git hooks that are already on the wiki 15:52 paul_p_ jcamins = should I push them to contribs/ReleaseManagement/paul_p/*, for example ? 15:53 jcamins That'd be very useful. :) 15:53 jcamins Or you could push them to release-tools. 15:54 * jcamins improved his juggernaut script release-tool.pl to automatically push if all the tests pass, thus allowing the computer to spend several hours running tests while he is asleep. 15:57 eythian nengard: unless there's something unusual going on with your email, I think your computer clock is way wrong. 15:57 nengard hmmm 15:57 nengard Thu Jul 12 09:23:22 EDT 2012 15:57 nengard not WAY 15:57 nengard but yes, wrong 15:57 nengard it always happens to my VM 15:57 nengard no one has given me a foolproof way to stop that from happening 15:58 eythian well, for a computer, anything outside of 10 seconds is way wrong ;) 15:58 jcamins Enable ntp. 15:58 eythian what is your VM running? 15:58 eythian jcamins: ntp gives up if things are miles out. 15:58 jcamins eythian: really? 15:58 eythian I think so. 15:58 eythian what I really mean is "what is your VM software?" 15:58 nengard yeah i think we tried ntp 15:58 nengard i'm on debian 15:59 nengard and i don't have the vm on all the time 15:59 nengard so it loses time 15:59 nengard oh 15:59 nengard virtualbox 15:59 wahanui virtualbox is good for that sort of thing 15:59 eythian do you sleep it? 15:59 nengard no i turn it off 15:59 nengard no need for it to be running 15:59 nengard just like those extra branches :) 15:59 eythian hmm, it should come back with system time when it restarts. 15:59 nengard it's on most of the work week 15:59 eythian time in VMs is always a pain. 15:59 nengard and then i turn it off on the weekends 16:00 nengard people have been saying that to me for years but it never seems to happen that way 16:00 ropuch Hello #koha :) 16:00 paul_p_ 6PM here, *lot* of work done on koha (patches QAed, pushed, ...), time for my family now ! 16:00 nengard now i have a script i run when i turn the vm on to run zebra and other crons 16:00 nengard can i add the date function to that in some way? 16:00 jcamins I have never had a problem with the clock on my VM, and I don't run it all the time. 16:00 nengard paul_p++ 16:00 nengard jcamins then i want to know your secret 16:01 nengard for now though i manually fixed it and i'll continue writing patches :) 16:01 eythian nengard: two things: make sure virtualbox-ose-guest-utils and virtualbox-ose-guest-dkms are installed in the VM 16:01 eythian nengard: and yes, you can add 'ntpdate to an hourly cron job to keep things in sync. 16:01 jcamins nengard: I don't think I did anything special. 16:02 nengard eythian, i don't have crons running, i'm just manually running everything once when i turn the vm back on cause i don't need them running all the time 16:02 nengard and how do i check to see if those are installed 16:02 nengard ? 16:02 jcamins Or ntpd -g -q 16:02 eythian nengard: apt-cache policy 16:02 ropuch Open Source 16:02 wahanui well, Open Source is strong and solid partly because different people are working through the system 16:02 ropuch Uh 16:02 eythian nengard: but you will have a cron daemon running, it'd be weird not to. 16:03 ropuch Running hwclock on boot time should do the trick also 16:03 nengard okay apt-cache policy did not show those 2 files you mentioned 16:03 eythian ok, then apt-get install them 16:03 eythian It's very likely to make difference 16:04 nengard installing 16:04 eythian (it lets debian talk directly to the host to get that sort of info) 16:04 nengard and ropuch what is hwclock? 16:04 nengard do i need it if these installs work? 16:04 eythian no 16:04 nengard k 16:04 jcamins man 8 hwclock 16:04 eythian it's a thing that syncs between hardware and system clocks 16:04 eythian though, I don't know what the hardware clock would do in a VM anyway, 16:05 ropuch eythian: yea, I just scrolled the log back and I don;t think that will help nengard 16:05 ropuch nengard: forget about hwclock ;> 16:05 nengard hehe 16:05 nengard will do 16:05 nengard erased from my memory 16:07 pastebot "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "eythian: this is what i see after installing those packages .... think maybe they didn't really install :)" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/28 16:07 eythian oh 16:07 eythian I miswrote: 16:08 eythian apt-cache policy virtualbox-ose-guest-dkms 16:08 eythian it'll say something like: virtualbox-ose-guest-dkms: 16:08 eythian Geïnstalleerd: 3.2.10-dfsg-1 16:08 eythian Kandidaat: 3.2.10-dfsg-1 16:08 pastebot "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "is this better?" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/29 16:08 nengard yep 16:08 nengard i think that's right 16:09 eythian yes, except where it says '(none)' that should be a version 16:09 nengard hmmm 16:09 nengard this one: "sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose-guest-dkms " gave me some 404 errors 16:09 nengard this one: " apt-get install virtualbox-ose-guest-utils" seemed to work 16:09 eythian ah, then run sudo apt-get update first 16:09 eythian your packages list is out of date I suspect. 16:10 nengard yup .. seems that way 16:10 nengard stuff being downloaded 16:10 * slef goes for a coffee break before testing his fix to bug 6697 16:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6697 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Empty Organisation(s) field for organisational patrons 16:14 nengard eythian okay it's installed 16:14 nengard now what? 16:14 wahanui now is good time with holidays coming up 16:14 nengard is it just magic? 16:14 eythian should be, yeah 16:14 nengard we'll see next week :) 16:15 nengard thank you! 16:15 eythian It _might_ be working now, or it may take a reboot of the guest OS. 16:15 nengard okay - i'll do that at lunch 16:17 nengard hmmmm ? what's this table? 16:17 nengard Default checkout, hold and return policy 16:17 nengard oops 16:17 nengard paste wrong 16:17 nengard default_borrower_circ_rules; 16:17 nengard mine has data but i don't know where it's coming from 16:18 nengard in my table it looks like the categorycode is actually the itype - not a patron category 16:19 jcamins marcelr++ # for spending a lot of time on bug 7167 16:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7167 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , updatedatabase improvements 16:21 Shane-S could anyone direct me to the best documentation for installing 3.8.2 on Ubuntu 10.04... I remember using http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Lucid_using_Koha_packages with 3.6.4 and having issues 16:22 eythian Shane-S: the packages work on 12.04, with one issue that I'm hoping to fix soon. 16:22 eythian fwiw. 16:22 slef packages? 16:22 wahanui packages is, like, at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 16:22 oleonard Shane-S: Or you could refer to the INSTALL file included with Koha 16:22 jcamins Shane-S: there are even more dependencies that won't be in Lucid. 16:23 jcamins Shane-S: 12.04 is a LTS release. 16:23 jcamins I would seriously consider using it. 16:23 Shane-S okay I will have to try that then 16:23 slef Shane-S: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian for packages, INSTALL.* files included with Koha for "straight" install. 16:23 jcamins In fact, I would go so far as to say you should not use Lucid for 3.8+ 16:24 jcamins http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Ubuntu has instructions for installing Koha on Lucid, but, as I know I've already told you, better to use packages. 16:24 eythian You _will_ encounter an issue with database permissions however. 16:24 Shane-S that sounds manageable 16:25 Shane-S I had Zebra issues with 10.04 3.6.4 and you all help me get it working, but I want to no mess with it, as this will be my production install 16:25 Shane-S Ill go make a 12.04 VM 16:26 eythian all you need to do is manually create a new mysql user, and you can't use '%' as wildcard like you can in older versions. 16:26 eythian (which is why it breaks koha at the moment) 16:26 Shane-S does desktop matter? 16:26 jcamins Woohoo! I love thorough testing! 16:26 eythian I tend to not to do desktop, but realistically it doesn't. 16:27 Shane-S I don't need major power we have under 10K books, realistically 6K but they never clear their old records 16:28 eythian within reason, size of the collection doesn't matter terribly much, especially not at those levels. 16:28 jcamins Shane-S: Desktop vs. Server is basically just a difference between what's installed by default. 16:28 jcamins FWIW, I never use desktop. 16:29 Shane-S just trying to remember if the gui is an option or if I have to look up how to apt-get it 16:30 jcamins You probably shouldn't be allowing anyone to use the server directly. 16:30 Shane-S its for me, I like my mouse :P 16:31 eythian but you don't actually use the mouse when running a server. 16:31 Shane-S I do for the browser and IRC 16:32 eythian I also don't actually work directly on the server, I ssh into it from a real desktop machine. 16:32 eythian (even if that server is in a VM on my desktop machine) 16:32 slef browse+IRC from workstation, not server, or are you short of computers? 16:32 jcamins Yeah, what they said. 16:32 slef if so, I think there's an argument for working on the server 16:32 slef else it's a bit of an unnecessary risk, what with all the nasties on the internet 16:33 Shane-S Well, I try to remote when I can, but sometimes it helps to be in there as it is more a get away from interruptions and focus kind of deal 16:34 Shane-S when I am at my desk people come to my door with the "Are you busy?" question and proceed to give me their issues before I go "Yes I am@" 16:34 eythian I have noise cancelling headphones for that :) 16:34 Shane-S okay well I will go with server, no gui and see how I fair 16:34 Shane-S its a VM anyway right now 16:35 Shane-S then I have to see if I can import it inot my server running ESXi 16:35 eythian Shane-S: if you install from packages, you can use koha-dump and koha-restore if moving the VM itself is tricky. 16:36 Shane-S oh cool, I am hoping to move the VM, because I am networkless atm in work. I had to remove my server racks which held all the servers and main switches for asbestos removal 16:37 Shane-S supposed to be done this week, I will see 16:37 Shane-S so I am working at home with my computer and Virtual Box in the hopes I can migrate my installs 16:37 eythian ah right 16:38 eythian it is technically possible to export a vbox vm and load into a vmware thing, I think, but I've never done it. 16:38 eythian well, vbox can import vmware images, so I assume it can export them... 16:39 Shane-S yeah and it should be able to do the open format as well both support it (escaping me now think it is vox) 16:39 eythian ah, I just presumed that vmware wouldn't support that :) 16:40 BrianJPS Hey all, I'm interested in using Koha for a small library. I'm trying to figure out what are the pre reqs for running it and just how to get started. I'm on a windows-based system and am a bit of a layman. Could someone help? 16:40 eythian BrianJPS: the basic prereq is a Linux server, Koha itself won't run on Windows (though you can access it from windows.) 16:41 jcamins BrianJPS: you'll want to use VirtualBox for testing, since Koha runs under Linux. 16:41 * eythian is done for the day I think, last day in Brighton. 16:42 BrianJPS alright, and with a Linux server it'll be straight forward to get started? 16:43 eythian BrianJPS: if you have experience with working with Linux, fairly. 16:43 BrianJPS great, thanks 16:43 jcamins packages? 16:43 wahanui packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 16:44 jcamins ^^ that page explains how to install Koha. 16:44 BrianJPS excellent, I'll check it out 16:52 Shane-S what server option should i check beyond LAMP if any to help with the install later? 16:52 jcamins SSH. 16:52 jcamins Very important. 16:52 jcamins Actually, that's the only thing I install. 16:52 jcamins Base distribution and SSH. 16:53 Shane-S oh I am just at the core screen, where you can pick DNS, so do you mean the openSSH option? 16:53 jcamins That's what I meant. 16:53 Shane-S okay thanks 16:54 jcamins It has about five options, I think. "Base distribution," "Database," maybe "Web server," and "OpenSSH," at least. 16:54 Shane-S yeah there a bunch of options 16:54 Shane-S i always do lamp, never did the SSH one 16:56 Shane-S oh lunch....I should get some of that too! 16:56 jcamins I choose only "Base distribution" (or whatever they call it) and "OpenSSH) 16:58 Shane-S lol I love my system...ith 6 CPU cores, I am running a game, virtual box, irc, and firefox, and I am only at 20% load, with 10Gb ram left :P 16:58 Shane-S only 1 VM in VB though, so I am sure the ram will go down lots more as I launch more vms 16:58 jcamins Wow. 16:59 jcamins At some point I will break down and get a desktop. 17:00 Shane-S it only cost me $800 in parts 2 years ago, grnated I recycled my case, DVD-RWs, and 1 HD, but should run someone like 400 or less today 17:00 Shane-S downfall is mY HD, I want to get a solid state 17:00 jcamins The thing is that if I wait a year and a half, it'll cost that much for something twice as fast. 17:00 Shane-S just don't have the $600 to spend to get 500Gb 17:01 Shane-S yeah only issue with hardware, obsolete the moment you hit "checkout" :) 17:03 Shane-S I do miss my Macbook Pro through, it had a lovely 4-5 hours of battery life 17:04 Shane-S my boss'es kids spilled soda on hers, so I had to give her mine, as that was all she had 17:04 Shane-S now I have my crappy old HP laptop that dies in 45 minutes 17:19 kf marcelr++ 17:23 slef kf wins today's nonsequitur award! 17:24 * jcamins followed just fine. 17:24 kf the what award? 17:24 jcamins A "non sequitur" is a statement that doesn't follow from the previous conversation. 17:24 kf ah 17:24 kf well, jcamins followed just fine :P 17:25 jcamins Usually I win that award with observations like "the problem with blackberries is that the seeds are too hard for the immersion blender to chop up." 17:25 jcamins Though oleonard knew what I was talking about when I said that yesterday. 17:26 kf I do too 17:26 kf you got blackberries this week 17:26 jcamins I did. And why was I trying to chop up the seeds in the immersion blender? 17:26 kf hmmmmmmmm 17:26 kf salad? 17:26 wahanui salad is a definite possibility. 17:27 jcamins Smoothie. 17:27 kf aaah would have been my next guess ;) 17:46 datadoctor idreambooks wrote back to me - they offer a free read-o-meter widget, but most materials have only been reviewed by a few dozen people - they are working on their API, and need reviews for more materials. 17:46 datadoctor So their read-o-meter is cool, but doesn't have the data backing it up yet. 17:46 jcamins datadoctor: you could probably incorporate that into Koha with jQuery? 17:47 datadoctor Yes, jquery :) 17:48 jcamins Of course, I guess there's no point if they don't have useful data. 17:49 datadoctor I like the concept, free access to book reviews - maybe it will catch on - they should probably put some of their funding toward getting librarians to review new books for their site! 17:58 datadoctor I'm installing 3.8 today, and wondering about the best method - do you recommend the git method or the download for Debian? Or a combination approach? 17:59 jcamins Packages for production, git for development. 17:59 datadoctor That makes sense. 18:02 datadoctor Am I going to need to download a bunch of cpan stuff separately, or is that a part of the packages? 18:02 jcamins All part of the packages. 18:02 jcamins No CPANing involved. 18:02 datadoctor Cool. Thanks! 18:02 jcamins At least, I don't think there is. 18:16 drojf hi #koha 18:16 cait hi drojf :) 18:17 drojf hey cait :) 18:17 cait a coworker told me a story today 18:18 drojf showed my coworker bugzilla. she even tried a sandbox 18:18 cait about that guy who was running koha on a raspberry pi 18:18 drojf hewh 18:18 drojf heh 18:18 cait :) 18:19 drojf so, will you change to a rack full of raspberry pi for koha? :) 18:25 nengard anyone know what issuingrules.restrictedtype is for? 18:25 nengard it's NULL for all of my rules 18:34 drojf kohacon 2013 voting frenzy seems to be over 18:34 cait yeah 18:35 jcamins drojf: Nigeria is well ahead? 18:35 drojf everybody used up all their twenty email addresses? :P 18:35 jcamins lol 18:35 drojf jcamins: a little 18:37 jcamins Deadline is Wednesday? 18:37 drojf i think its tuesday 18:37 drojf 17th afair 18:37 jcamins Ah. 18:39 jcamins Is there any way to sort serial issues on the OPAC by issue date/number rather than received date? 18:39 cait hm there is a patch to change the sorting 18:39 cait but I tink it's not by date number 18:39 jcamins I feel like I discussed this with someone before, and there is, but I'm not sure when. 18:40 cait because there are numbering schemes where that would not work out 18:40 cait I think it was changed to be publication date 18:40 jcamins Ah, yup. 18:40 jcamins That's what I meant. 18:42 cait i think the patch is there, maybe even waiting for signoff still 18:42 jcamins Signed off. :) 18:42 cait cool 18:42 jcamins Once you told me where to look, I found it. 18:42 cait bug memory :) 18:53 nengard I'll probably do it on Weds to make up for any time diff changes 18:54 jcamins Do what? 18:54 jcamins It's already signed off by Elliott. 18:54 cait closing the vote I think 18:54 jcamins Oh. 18:54 jcamins Got it. 18:55 nengard yes 18:55 nengard sorry 18:55 nengard doing too many things at once 18:56 drojf i think it should be known beforehand when the vote is closed 18:56 cait nengard: the tags thing has a bug in htere, it happened when we removed the nonsense tooltip 18:56 nengard okay 18:56 nengard drojf i told everyone the 17th was the last day to vote 18:56 nengard so when I wake up on the 18th I'll close it 18:56 nengard but I can send a reminder out 18:57 drojf alright. it sounded a little like "when i feel like" ;) 18:58 Shane-S can I pull up the readme from less /usr/share/doc/koha-common/README.Debian online anywhere so I can work in two windows 18:58 jcamins README.Debian? Never heard of that file. 18:58 wizzyrea he means install.debian i thikn 18:59 jcamins But install.debian doesn't explain how to use packages. 18:59 jcamins packages? 18:59 wahanui somebody said packages was at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 18:59 jcamins ^^ just follow those instructions 18:59 wizzyrea http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob_plain;f=INSTALL.debian;hb=HEAD but do it from the wiki. 19:00 Shane-S The wiki says "Read the README.Debian file for instructions on how to configure Koha after the package is installed. " 19:01 jcamins Oh. 19:01 jcamins Hm. 19:01 * jcamins still has never heard of that file. 19:01 Shane-S and it talks about enabling Apache mods, database stuff, all commands I have to issue, but the README is in my way :P 19:01 jcamins But... 19:01 jcamins http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=debian/koha-common.README.Debian;h=ba831af848a1871129e3f2de1a1722fee733a163;hb=HEAD 19:02 Shane-S there we go, thanks that one was it :P 19:02 Shane-S no I can put my pen and paper away :D 19:02 Shane-S Thank you jcamins 19:02 jcamins Hehe. 19:02 jcamins You're welcome. 19:03 jcamins BTW, you know the point of installing SSH was so that you could SSH into the server and have multiple terminals open, right? 19:04 ago43 Hi, any jquery pro's out there? http://pastebin.com/gmv1Bwfk 19:05 * jcamins tries to avoid correcting the apostrophe, fails. :P 19:05 wizzyrea ago is that everything that's in there? 19:06 wizzyrea what is the entire contents of opacuserjs 19:06 ago43 lemme check that. I was copying from an e-mail, so maybe that's not all. 19:07 Shane-S jcamins: I am fighting with Virtual Box right now ...it setup the network with NAT so I have to add rules...so I am just working from the VB screen 19:07 jcamins Shane-S: ah. Gotcha. 19:07 * wizzyrea has had that happen, it was always related to a missing somethingerother in another statement *before* the one I added. 19:07 ago43 ahh. 19:08 jcamins Or a string change. 19:08 jcamins You should add a class or id. 19:08 slef jcamins: fessional is omitted 19:09 jcamins slef: lol 19:09 Shane-S Apache... Listen 80 do I add space 8080 or another listen line 19:09 jcamins I don't buy it. 19:09 jcamins Another line. 19:09 Shane-S ty 19:09 oleonard Works for me ago43 19:10 ago43 thanks. then wizzy must be right about an earlier entry causing the problem. 19:10 oleonard Also, I can't save preferences because it says my session has timed out! 19:11 * wizzyrea gives oleonard "the look" 19:11 Shane-S http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=debian/koha-common.README.Debian;h=ba831af848a1871129e3f2de1a1722fee733a163;hb=HEAD Line 25, I assume that mean doing Listen edit OR the alternate and not just if you did the alternate? 19:11 oleonard Seriously. 19:11 wizzyrea … really? 19:11 jcamins Shane-S: if you are using virtual hosts, you don't need to add the Listen. 19:11 wizzyrea it's infectious today 19:11 jcamins However, there is no harm in doing the Listen anyway. 19:12 oleonard "NetworkError: 400 Bad Request - http://localhost:8888/cgi-bin/koha/svc/config/systempreferences/" 19:12 wizzyrea master? 19:12 wahanui master is for 3.6 19:12 oleonard Yes 19:12 wizzyrea 1s 19:13 jcamins wahanui: forget master 19:13 wahanui jcamins: I forgot master 19:13 jcamins That does not look right. 19:13 Shane-S jcamins: I thought that was for apache to know if I do 10.0.0.1:8080 it will load, how does the VM affect that? 19:14 jcamins Shane-S: the VM does not affect it at all. You just set up NAT to point whichever ports you want to 10.0.0.1:8080 19:14 Shane-S wow jcamins has a person bot slave the forgets random stuff! 19:14 wizzyrea hm 19:14 wizzyrea I can save them 19:14 wizzyrea what do you have in your opacuserjs/ 19:14 Shane-S jcamins: yeah so I could redirect 8080 to 80, but I thought Koha used 8080 for something 19:15 jcamins Shane-S: 80 is for the OPAC, 8080 is for the staff client. 19:15 jcamins Apparently the query is supposed to end with a slash. 19:15 * wizzyrea thinks it feels odd to ask oleonard what is in his opacuserjs 19:15 jcamins Odd. 19:16 oleonard Don't be shy wizzyrea, ask away. We're all grownups. 19:16 cait lol 19:17 oleonard First I had nothing, then I had ago43's snippet. In neither case can I save via preferences.pl (using systempreferences.pl works) 19:18 oleonard Ah, and I'll bet I know what has changed... 19:18 * oleonard checks 19:20 * Shane-S feels like the README is missing the "disbale apache default site instruction...and he can't remember the built in line 19:20 jcamins sudo a2dissite default 19:20 Shane-S ty 19:21 slef it might be missing because if you do that and you have another site on there -> brokenness 19:21 oleonard Okay, yeah. What changed is that I set the timeout setting from 12000000 to 1d 19:22 slef mmm, old pennies! 19:22 Shane-S okay now I get software errors, looks like the user error you spoke of earlier, just need to give access permissions to the MySQL db for that user correct? 19:22 jcamins Shane-S: right. 19:22 slef mysql_setpermission 19:22 oleonard ...because that's what bornie21 had changed it to 19:24 jcamins Isn't it supposed to be in milliseconds? 19:25 oleonard "Adding d will specify it in days, e.g. 1d is timeout of one day. " 19:25 jcamins Huh. 19:25 jcamins Didn't know that. 19:26 cait it's quite new 19:26 cait well old ad rediscovered 19:26 oleonard Bug 6701 19:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6701 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , language on timeout system preference is wrong 19:27 jcamins Ooh, I think I pushed that 3.6.x. 19:27 jcamins I shall revert. 19:27 oleonard That's just the description change 19:28 oleonard I don't know about the underlying code 19:28 jcamins Right... if it doesn't tell you that you can enter "1d" no one will think they can. 19:28 slef should members/member.pl search town/city? 19:30 slef @query town 19:30 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3766 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Cities/Towns and Road Types only on one address 19:31 * oleonard is off 19:31 oleonard Bye #koha 19:32 cait bye oleonard 19:36 Shane-S okay so I manually did a grant all on koha_nps.* TO 'koha_nps'@'localhost'; and droped the user with the % for the location and I still have the software error 19:37 jcamins Shane-S: did you set the password to the same as was specified in the koha-conf.xml file? 19:38 Shane-S that I did not, can I change it in the xml or just set it MYSQL to what is in the XML? 19:38 jcamins I'd do the latter. 19:38 jcamins You can change it, but it's a good idea to have a random password. 19:42 Shane-S gotcha thanks 20:32 Shane-S so I am trying to login with kohauser from .xml file with a long hard to use random password with no luck, I got the MYSQL one working fine, now I am at the web installer 20:33 wizzyrea the username is the same as the mysql 20:33 wizzyrea so is the password 20:33 jcamins Shane-S: the other user is for Zebra. 20:33 Shane-S oh 20:33 jcamins You use the MySQL password to go through the web installer, then create yourself a new user which you use from then on. 20:33 wizzyrea (after you create a library) 20:34 wizzyrea (and some patron types) 20:34 wizzyrea patron categories, I mean 20:34 wizzyrea (or just install the sample data 20:34 jcamins Right. 20:34 wizzyrea ) 20:35 Shane-S hmm says it is missing a perl dependency "Template::Plugin::HtmlToText" any quick fox for that? 20:35 Shane-S err Module 20:35 jcamins sudo apt-get install libtemplate-plugin-htmltotext-perl :D 20:35 cait sudo apt-get install libtemplate-plugin-htmltotext-perl 20:36 wizzyrea <3 cait 20:36 cait meh, jcamins typed faster or cheated :) 20:36 jcamins cait: I type very quickly. 20:36 cait I do too - but not against you :) 20:36 cait hi wizzyrea :) 20:36 wizzyrea it's true he's wicked fast 20:36 cait what did I do? 20:36 libsysguy Shane-S there is a clever scheme for libraries in debian 20:36 libsysguy lib(package-name)-perl 20:36 jcamins libsysguy: he's using the packages. 20:36 jcamins Oh, naming scheme. 20:36 libsysguy yeah 20:36 Shane-S ty thank worked now onto the install 20:36 * jcamins thought that using packages generally was a clever scheme. ;) 20:37 * libsysguy made the mistake of using cpan his first time 20:37 libsysguy never again 20:37 libsysguy yeah using packages will generally do it 20:37 * Shane-S also used cpan the first time and cried and beat his head on the table...and screamed out "Why would anyone make this so complex?" 20:39 Shane-S okay I don't remember this part...Unimarc or Marc21 (I will be migrating data from Follett Circ/Cat) 20:40 wizzyrea marc21 20:40 Shane-S ty 20:40 wizzyrea you're not in france right? 20:40 libsysguy you can always change it later right? 20:41 jcamins Somewhere near where my parents live, based on the domain name. 20:41 jcamins libsysguy: nope. 20:41 jcamins Well, you could change the syspref, but you'd have to reinstall the instance. 20:41 jcamins (to change the Zebra indexing) 20:41 libsysguy oh ouch 20:41 libsysguy better get it right Shane-S 20:42 jcamins Shane-S: it's definitely MARC21. That's not something you need to be concerned about being wrong about in NJ. ;) 20:42 Shane-S okay...lots of optional stuff I can do 20:43 jcamins Yup. Those are low stakes. Choose what you'd like. 20:43 wizzyrea (sample libraries and patron categories are nice) 20:43 wizzyrea sample holidays are nice 20:43 Shane-S sample holidays does that save time? 20:43 wizzyrea yes 20:44 libsysguy only if you're into christmas :p 20:44 jcamins Z39.50 servers is always a good idea. 20:44 wizzyrea sample frameworks 20:44 wizzyrea are nice 20:44 libsysguy frameworks are a yes 20:44 jcamins Oh, I never install sample frameworks. 20:44 Shane-S Sample Patron Card Data, does that include adding the reports or are they in there already? 20:44 jcamins Too many missing tags. 20:44 * libsysguy is not as picky as jcamins 20:44 libsysguy :p 20:44 * wizzyrea either 20:44 wizzyrea adding the reports? 20:45 * wizzyrea is not sure what you mean 20:45 Shane-S I remember building reports with the admin interface, and I never could find a "patron card" to print our this barcode, was curious if that adds it (or maybe I just missed it before) 20:46 jcamins Shane-S: barcodes aren't printed from the reports module. 20:46 jcamins They're printed from the barcode printing tool. 20:46 wizzyrea no, they're printed from the patron card creator 20:46 Shane-S do I need sample patron for that, or is it in their already 20:46 wizzyrea barcodes for books are printed from the label creator 20:46 wizzyrea nope, you don't need sample patrons 20:46 wizzyrea those are actual "borrower accounts" 20:47 Shane-S Sample Label and Patron Card Data (sample_creator_data) is what i am stuck on 20:47 wizzyrea yes, you want those 20:47 wizzyrea gives you some templates to work from if you are going to be printing labels or patron cards from koha 20:48 rangi bug 5644 easy signoff to help make jenkins happy again 20:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5644 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , dropbox mode doesn't set the correct date 20:49 jcamins I would, except I'm at a client's. 20:49 rangi also bug 8407 and bug 8385 20:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8407 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , xt/tt_valid.t is too strict 20:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8385 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , searchengine/solr/indexes.tt fails 'prove ./xt/tt_valid.t' test 20:49 rangi fix another jenkins complain 20:50 jcamins ^^ those need to be signed off by someone who uses a non-English interface. 20:51 rangi yup, i put a sign off on 20:51 rangi but not marked it needs signoff 20:51 rangi i tested with english-NZ 20:51 jcamins Maybe we could get dpavlin to test it. 20:52 Shane-S okay WOW 3.8's staff screen 10x better then 3.6 at least the first page much easier 20:52 wizzyrea hehe 20:53 jcamins lol 20:53 jcamins Glad you like it. :) 20:53 rangi after those are pushed, just the perlcritic error to fix 20:53 cait rangi++ 20:53 cait thx for saving jenkins once again 20:54 rangi well it wont be saved until the fixes are pushed :) 20:58 Shane-S anyone know what item types Follet likes to use for books? I will have to bring home the Koha test laptop to check otherwise 20:58 wizzyrea they are arbitrary, I think 20:58 wizzyrea that is to say, different at every library 20:58 Shane-S what is suggested then for Item Type for normal fiction books? 20:59 * wizzyrea would use "book" 20:59 rangi id use train 20:59 cait Shane-S: your itemtypes dictate your circ rules 20:59 * wizzyrea gives rangi "the look" 20:59 rangi (the point being it doesnt actually matter) 20:59 cait think about what you need for circ rules 20:59 rangi its just arbitrary characters 20:59 rangi you can call it whatever you want 20:59 wizzyrea but your circ rules are based on them 20:59 wizzyrea like cait said 20:59 rangi so pick something that makes sense to you 21:00 cait you could have "4-weeks" 21:00 cait or "short loan" "normal loan" 21:00 cait or if you really circ like that "book" "audio-visual" 21:00 Shane-S when I asked my media specialist about rules she looked at me like I had two heads...her response was, kids just check books out and bring them back in a week 21:00 Shane-S we have no fines 21:00 cait the trick is that it doesn't have to be a media type 21:00 wizzyrea right, it doesn't have to be 21:01 cait you could have just one type for all then, if you wanted 21:01 wizzyrea if you didn't want to, say, circulate DVD's for less time than books 21:01 SJeffery Though there are advantages of separating out the media types for searching purposes... 21:01 Shane-S I am think Book, DVD/CD, VHS, Audio CD, Audio Casset 21:01 wizzyrea yep, those make sense 21:01 cait you can also search by location and collection 21:02 Shane-S and this doesn;t affect like fiction, non-fict, ref, etc right? 21:02 wizzyrea no, those are usually collection codes 21:02 Shane-S okay easy enough then 21:02 wizzyrea or locations. It's all very flexible 21:02 wizzyrea do it in a way that makes sense to your librarians. 21:02 Shane-S we only have like 5 types of media 21:03 wizzyrea do you know the policies of your library? 21:03 wizzyrea I'd start there :P 21:03 Shane-S <-- has 1 librarian who he asked to look at Koha and she never logged in beyond me doing it with her twice. 21:03 wizzyrea does your library have a website? 21:04 drojf librarians. have crazy stuff like MARC with a field for everything and then let people choose item types like crazy 21:04 * wizzyrea wants to know what the circ policies look like :P 21:04 Shane-S wizzyrea: no, it will with Koha, but right now everything hosted in the building is down 21:04 wizzyrea O.o 21:05 wizzyrea bummer 21:05 Shane-S I walked in Monday to a general contractor going , your the IT guy right? 21:05 wizzyrea ohh… boy... 21:05 Shane-S and I looked at him going yeah, is there a computer or wire in your way? 21:06 jcamins At least he didn't start off with "what was in that little room with all the air conditioning?" ;) 21:06 Shane-S He goes, well not quite, this room here with these 7 foots racks...yeah we are supposed to rip the asbestos tile out 21:06 libsysguy yayy for mesothelioma 21:07 Shane-S so I had to rip out 3 servers, 4 switches, 2 UPSs, and our routers/modems. 21:09 wizzyrea http://www.mememaker.net/meme/good-morning-your-network-is-about-to-go-down 21:10 jcamins Hehe. 21:10 Shane-S Needless to say I was not happy...and no one even looked at the room, the blueprints still had "closet", so they assumed it was a storage closet not a "server" closet 21:10 wizzyrea actually this one: http://www.mememaker.net/meme/good-morning-your-network-is-about-to-go-down8 21:11 jcamins Is that different? 21:11 wizzyrea well you can actually see the word "down 21:11 Shane-S Best part is when the Business Admin who approved the ripping out of it, called me asked me to print out a purchase order. I just laughed at her. 21:12 Shane-S I tolder her, I have no network connectivity, no print servers, and no internet access to go download drivers to I can use USB 21:12 cait did she made the mistake to ask why? 21:13 Shane-S No I think my tone said it all 21:14 Shane-S because I just got in my Dell PE 710 server with 64Gb ram to Virtualize...and I couldn't do anything but stare at it 21:15 Shane-S Then my new UPS came in, and I stared at them...then my new firewall...stated at that too 21:15 Shane-S waiting for my PoE switch so I can just look at that too 21:15 drojf uh-oh. getting between the it guy and his new toys 21:15 jcamins Shane-S: sounds like you've had a busy two weeks (is that right?) staring at cool things you can't use. 21:16 Shane-S yep, best part was we paid to have an exhaust fan put in...because I want my servers running under 90degrees F, and I only have a vent in the door to pull air in. So the entire room was already ripped out 21:17 drojf sounds like excellent planning. what kind of place do you work at? 21:18 Shane-S Elementary School so it isn't mission critical, just wasted 2 weeks of IT "pay" 21:18 drojf ah, public money. excellent ;) 21:19 Shane-S I was literally an over pair custodian last week, I walked around helping the guys move furniture out of the classrooms 21:19 jcamins drojf: well, not so much in NJ... 21:20 drojf how are schools paid for in NJ? 21:20 Shane-S jcamins: on now we are public, taxes and state funding pay for us. 21:20 Shane-S no* 21:20 jcamins Shane-S: that's a joke... many members of my family teach in the NJ school system. 21:20 Shane-S there are some private and charter school which get state aid, but are privately funded, I am in the public sector 21:21 jcamins I understand the governor has been cutting school budgets rather dramatically. 21:22 Shane-S yeah and from the IT side, the data they are now collecting because of NCLB and the Federal aid 30 states too for education, we can see a trend to merit based pay...which "I" an not oppsed to 21:22 Shane-S I am non-union, yearly contracted, so I live by the fact I need to do my job, and well, or I can be fired life 21:22 jcamins It is non-unionized? 21:22 jcamins (in public schools) 21:23 Shane-S Teacher and Admins are Union 21:23 jcamins I meant "IT" not "It." 21:23 jcamins However, that seems... not quite right. 21:23 Shane-S support staff is not union represented unless their local school union offers to blanket them 21:25 Shane-S Support staff are : secretaries, custodians, maintenance, lunch workers, aides, and in most of school in this area of NJ IT staff. 21:26 Shane-S Some of the IT personnel were teacher or school administrators, and the districts made the postion and administrative position 21:26 Shane-S well at any rate thank you all 21:27 Shane-S it is working, now I get to set it up and then try and export it to a VM that ESXi will like 21:34 * jcamins looks at the time, decides to call it a day. 21:34 jcamins Good night, #koha. 22:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #95 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 23:03 * jcamins_away instructs his release script to warn him if the release version and Koha version do not match. 23:23 drojf did something change about search in koha or did i break something? i had a link opac-search.pl?idx=Control-number&q=12345&op=or&idx=Record-control-number&q=12345 and that returned all records with a certain control number either in 001 or 777$w. now i get 0 results 23:23 jcamins 777$w? 23:24 jcamins Huh. 23:24 jcamins Indeed. 23:24 jcamins Should still work. 23:26 drojf weird. zebra related files look ok. reindexed, no change 23:28 jcamins Very odd. 23:28 jcamins Is Zebra running? 23:29 drojf yes. i get results for everything else, but the indexes für control-number and record-control-number seem to be gone 23:29 jcamins That's very peculiar. 23:29 drojf indeed 23:30 drojf hm no there is more now. 23:30 drojf or, less 23:30 jcamins There is more what? 23:30 jcamins Less what? 23:30 wahanui it has been said that Less is more 23:30 drojf other indexes not working 23:31 jcamins Ah. 23:31 drojf something is really broken i guess 23:31 jcamins Yes, I think so. 23:32 drojf ok, nothing i deal with at 1:30am then :/ good night 23:33 jcamins Good night. 23:39 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #95: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/95/ 23:39 jenkins_koha dpavlin: Bug 8315 - remove use C4::* version 23:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8315 major, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , fix 'C4::Output 3.02' errors in Koha